[05:19] <G> Where is the best place to dive in and help out with MOTU stuff at the moment?
[05:22] <micahg> G: at the beginning of the cycle, generally package merges, in this case though, fixing the stuff tagged ftbfs and (natty or oneiric) in universe would probably be best
[05:23] <G> so bugs tagged ftbfs & on http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/
[05:25] <micahg> G: those and these: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110413-natty.html
[05:39] <G> micahg: I'm guessing for the natty rebuild ones, it's just a case of verifying that they still ftbfs and if they still do, fixing it then?
[05:39] <micahg> G: yeah
[05:40] <micahg> G: they should all have bugs filed in launchpad, so just attach a patch or branch to the bug and follow the sponsorship procedure
[05:41] <G> micahg: i.e. subscribing ubuntu-sponsors ?
[05:42] <micahg> G: yeah
[06:16] <G> micahg: if a natty ftbfs package, also needs a merge for Oneiric, I take it that the merge isn't a solution for natty, and that a seperate fix fro natty would be needed?
[06:17] <micahg> G: right, but you can cherry pick the fix for natty and propose if you want
[06:17] <micahg> G: but the list I gave you doesn't apply to natty, it's only with gcc-4.6 which is the default in oneiric
[06:18] <G> micahg: oh, Matthias' rebuild is based on using gcc4.6?
[06:18] <micahg> G: yep
[06:22] <micahg> G: that rebuild is tagged oneiric in launchpad, the ones tagged natty, you can cherry pick a fix from Debian if it exists
[06:23] <G> micahg: oh I was confused, because like that link you gave me, zabbix was FTBFS on i386, and looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20110413/+buildjob/2473125 everything seemed to pointto natty
[06:24] <micahg> G: it used natty since that was the latest suite available, but it had a special toolchain
[06:25] <G> micahg: ahhh okay, I get it now :)
[07:04] <shijie> hello,my codeblocks throws permission denied upon compilation.
[07:04] <shijie> can anybody help me with that
[07:05] <shijie> when I install it in 10.10, this problem happens too. but I installed other plugins,it worked.
[07:06] <shijie_> hello,my codeblocks throws permission denied upon compilation.
[07:07] <shijie_> anybody there:-)
[07:07] <shijie_> hello
[08:47] <oussama> Hi, do i need to have the last version of ubuntu to contribute in ubuntu (packaging) currently i'm using ubuntu 10.04 lucid lynx thanks
[08:49] <sagaci> oussama, not necessarily. You can use pbuilder to create an ubuntu+1 environment. correct me if I'm wrong
[08:59] <_ruben> pbuilder and sbuilder are common tools for that, yes
[09:00] <_ruben> and it's not restricted to "ubuntu+1", it can be used to work with pretty much any version
[09:01] <oussama> what is "ubuntu+1"
[09:04] <_ruben> the term to indicate the current development version: latest stable + 1
[11:53] <G> okay, so for a merge proposal, branched the ubuntu bzr tree for the packaging, so if I understand correctly: Add note to bug, attach my branch to the bug, set In Progress, Unassigned, add ubuntu-sponsors to bug watchlist?
[11:53] <G> err link my branch, that includes the merge, I should say
[17:22] <hakermania> Hello all :) I have my application to REVU for a review, but now with Natty, tray isn't working, what am I supposed to do?
[17:24] <micahg> hakermania: fix the app, we'll review for oneiric, you can request backport to natty
[17:58] <hakermania> Fix the app = Make it an indicator instead of tray?
[17:59] <micahg> hakermania: well, if it's for GNOME specifically, it would either need to work for GNOME3 or Unity to get into oneiric, if it's a general purpose app, a tray is fine
[17:59] <micahg> *and/or
[18:10] <em> why does python-pyopencl DEPEND on nvidia??
[18:11] <azeem> does somehting else implement the opencl API?
[18:13] <em> yes i have an amd radeon card
[18:14] <azeem> that wasn't the question
[18:17] <em> i dont understand your question.
[18:18] <em> there's something I need python-opencl for. I dont have an nvidia card.
[18:18] <azeem> then maybe that something should depend on python-pyopencl?
[18:19] <azeem> if nvidia is the only thing shipping the opencl libraray on which pyopencl depends, it sounds ok to me
[18:20] <azeem> I don't see an amd implementation off-hand
[18:20] <azeem> eh
[18:20] <azeem> s/that something should depend/that something shouldn't depend/
[18:38] <hakermania> micahg: Where can I download oneiric for testing purposes? Or is it too early?
[18:38] <micahg> hakermania: it's too early for it to be installable
[18:39] <Ampelbein> hakermania: oneiric is to a big part uninstallable currently, see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/oneiric_probs.html
[18:40] <hakermania> micahg: When/Where the oneiric stable release for testing purposes will be announced?
[18:40] <micahg> hakermania: oneiric won't be a stable release for 5.5 months :)
[18:40] <hakermania> then when are we supposed to find the time and fix the app?
[18:41] <micahg> hakermania: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[18:42] <micahg> hakermania: the alpha releases should at least be installable
[18:42] <hakermania> So, we can start from 6.2.11. OK then, thanks a lot
[18:48] <em> azeem: I am trying to set up bitcoin mining. I have an amd card. For that I need the pyopencl. I was hoping that I could use the ubuntu repos but it depends on nvidia libs
[18:53] <azeem> em: so do you have an opencl implementation from AMD?
[18:55] <em> azeem: you mean the amdappsdk thing? Yeah
[19:04] <azeem> em: then you can try to create an equivs package of that nvidia thing
[19:58] <em> azeem: huh? what do you mean an equivs package?
[19:58] <em> azeem: are you a motu?
[19:58] <azeem> what does that have to do with anything?
[20:08] <micahg> em: if the package needs an implementation of opencl to work, it makes sense to depend on a package that provides it