[00:06] <luigi_panache> Can anyone here help me get my server back online?
[00:40] <Macer> do you see the interface at all with ifconfig -a?
[00:41] <Macer> oh
[00:41] <Macer> he left
[00:51] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #774541 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.8.2-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774541
[01:05] <Vhozard> hi guys, i have a lil question
[01:08] <Vhozard> anyone know the ram usage of a fresh server install (no extras) ?
[02:03] <onecrazycat> conf.d  -  what is the "official" purpose of this directory?  I've been using Ubuntu for a few years now and I've noticed it in what seems like a lot of config directories under /etc/
[02:11] <jmarsden> onecrazycat: Usually, it allows easy addition of config information by adding a file to it, rather than by editing an existing single config file.  A set of packages can collaborate on configuration more easily this way.
[02:17] <qman__> yes, it effectively works like a single config file
[02:18] <qman__> so, instead of /etc/example.conf being one huge file full of directives, you have /etc/example.conf.d with several files, splitting it up for ease of use
[02:18] <qman__> but the software loads it together
[04:00] <tsrk> Is there any way to do unattended distribution upgrades?
[04:34] <edu_mix07> hi very good at all I have a question "ubuntu server" will be good for
[04:34] <edu_mix07> work with sendmail .. as a mail server ... or you will know if it is comfortable
[04:34] <edu_mix07> to work with sendmail ...
[04:36] <jmarsden> edu_mix07: You can run sendmail, qmail or postfix just fine on Ubuntu server.  Use whichever MTA you are familiar with.
[05:10] <luigi_panache> Hi, all. I upgraded from maverick to natty and now my message of the day isn't working properly. Can anyone help?
[05:35] <ejv> anyone know why my ubuntu server, upon login over ssh, displays not one, but TWO "welcome message blocks" ?
[05:44] <MagicFab> ejv, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/670392 ?
[05:44] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 670392 in ubuntu "Double motd after upgrade to 10.10 (dup-of: 659738)" [Undecided,New]
[05:44] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 659738 in sysvinit "Duplicate welcome message in motd" [Medium,Fix released]
[05:53] <ejv> im using lts
[05:53] <ejv> but yea, that's it
[07:43] <jgould> I, for reasons known only to me, decided to install the xubuntu-desktop meta package on my server.  It doesn't really run that well on my server hardware, so I want to remove it now.  the catch is that it installed stuff that removing the xubutu-desktop package (and then doing an apt-get autoremove) hasn't removed.  any ideas on how to get my server install back to the way it was before I did this?
[07:43] <ONEZEROZEROONE01> reinstall the server
[07:44] <jgould> that's what I thought the answer was going to be.  How is 11.04 server?
[07:44] <ONEZEROZEROONE01> i dont know
[07:47] <jgould> I think I'll stick with 10.04 LTS then.  is there anything special I'm going to need to do permissions wise to my home and srv directories after the reinstall to make them work correctly again?
[07:48] <_ruben> jgould: apt-get autoremove *should* clean up all unneeded dependencies
[07:48] <_ruben> ymmv, doesnt always work flawlessly for me
[07:49] <jgould> dpkg -l lists a lot of stuff that was installed with the meta package that won't work with out it
[07:49] <_ruben> i usualy just copy/paste the list of packages that apt-get install outputs for later reference :)
[07:49] <jgould> Now that, is an idea...
[07:51] <_ruben> also, /var/log/dkpkg/ might hold some hints regarding earlier installs
[07:51] <_ruben> dpkg even
[07:51] <_ruben> im typing like shit today
[07:55] <jgould> ok... dpkg.log would be useful if it wasn't 7 billion packages... heh
[07:57] <jmarsden> jgould: Use grep and your knowledge of when you installed xubuntu-desktop to find the relevant few tens of packages.
[08:08] <jgould> or, use the database at packages.ubuntu.com and list what was installed...
[08:15] <jgould> I'm going to resinstall... I'm too afraid that I'm going to break something and not be able to fix it and then have to reinstall again anyway...
[08:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #774676 in postfix (main) "package postfix (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script was killed by signal (Segmentation fault)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774676
[08:18] <genii-around> Does the bot show all bugs or does it have some rudimentary sorting for instance and only show some like "confirmed" or so?
[08:34] <jgould> is there an easy way to do an install via ssh?  I'm comfy on the couch and don't really want to fool with hovering over my server.
[08:42] <genii-around> jgould: Probably debootstrap or so then
[08:43] <genii-around> (  if the target machine has connedctivity )
[08:46] <jgould> I'm half done with it now.  I use a lot of default settings
[08:58] <atdprhs> Hello everyone, I need support in my ubuntu server which i found later that it has been disconnected by itself while ago
[08:58] <atdprhs> I checked around and I found out that my eth0 is not managed
[08:58] <atdprhs> how and what does that mean?
[08:59] <atdprhs> is there any idea?
[08:59] <atdprhs> anyone?
[09:00] <atdprhs> plz?
[09:02] <atdprhs> anyone here?
[09:05] <atdprhs> Hello
[09:06] <airtonix> is there a terminal like tilda that lets me split the window like terminator does ?
[09:07] <talntid> screen
[09:07] <atdprhs> Hello talntid
[09:07] <talntid> allows you to slit screens :)
[09:11] <airtonix> talntid: i don't think screen lets you do what terminator does. i already use it (and byobu)
[09:11] <airtonix> screen is also not a terminal emulator like tilda or terminator.
[09:13] <atdprhs> Is there anyone here to help me?
[09:17] <airtonix> atdprhs: sounds like you're using ubuntu desktop. because that's an error reported by network-manager (which ubuntu-server doesn't include)
[09:19] <airtonix> atdprhs: in any case, you edit the /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf and change 'managed' to true
[09:19] <airtonix> atdprhs: it's not a desired thing to do, since network manager should have already picked up your devices and taken over.
[09:21] <genii-around> I believe whenever the /etc/network/interfaces file is manually altered, the GUI network manager leaves those intact and defers to the settings there and then just reports interface as "unmanaged"
[09:45] <atdprhs> I'm using
[09:45] <atdprhs> hello genii-around
[09:45] <atdprhs> i'm using ubuntu server
[09:46] <atdprhs> and there is someone I spoke to from kubuntu told me to remove network manager cuz its not supposed to be there to manage since I did the bad mistake using GUI on Ubuntu server
[09:52] <RoyK> atdprhs: that is correct, what genii-around said is wrong
[10:00] <atdprhs> Thanks Royk!
[10:01] <Macer> hm
[10:01] <Macer> well... almost done moving all this server stuff around
[10:02] <Macer> hm
[10:03] <Macer> you have to love how efnet still requires identd :)
[10:12] <Macer> well. you can tell a quad core opteron 205 based system sure does put my artigo's via C7/1GHz box to shame :)
[10:12] <Macer> 285
[10:23] <atdprhs> RoyK
[10:23] <atdprhs> can you help me?
[10:24] <atdprhs> RoyK: are you here?
[10:26] <Macer> well.. my works is done here for now... all i need are some hotswap bays for it and it is complete.. hopefully i can get a few hundred days of runtime out of it after i do that
[10:27] <Macer> i'm curious as to how well nvraid will adapt to a hard drive breaking :)
[10:28] <Macer> i don't even know if nvraid lets you hotswap
[10:51]  * RoyK is
[10:52] <atdprhs> Royk: Are you here?
[10:53] <RoyK> sure, but if you have a problem, please ask about it...
[10:53] <RoyK> then perahps I or someone else can help you
[10:55] <atdprhs> okayz
[10:55] <atdprhs> well, I'm in Ubuntu server which I made a huge by installing GUI on it
[10:55] <atdprhs> anyways
[10:55] <atdprhs> Someone is still helping me but we took very on that issue
[10:56] <atdprhs> I removed the NetworkManager to avoid it from disconnected my ubuntu server which made the server say that that device eth0 is unmanaged
[10:56] <atdprhs> but I can't put it back to be managed by ubuntu server to be connected to the internet
[10:57] <RoyK> edit /etc/network/interfaces and set the IP there
[10:57] <RoyK> then run /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:58] <atdprhs> there is nothing to edi
[10:58] <atdprhs> edit
[10:58] <atdprhs> auto lo
[10:58] <atdprhs> iface lo inet loopback
[10:58] <atdprhs> auto eth0
[10:59] <RoyK> !pastebin
[10:59] <atdprhs> I can't paste
[10:59] <atdprhs> because the server is not connected to the internet
[10:59] <RoyK> atdprhs: man interfaces
[11:01] <atdprhs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601673/
[11:02] <RoyK> looks good
[11:02] <RoyK> now restart networking
[11:04] <atdprhs> okayz
[11:04] <atdprhs> wait
[11:04] <atdprhs> give me 2 min. sorry
[11:04]  * RoyK isn't in a hurry
[11:06] <EricHRoosendaal> hi
[11:07] <atdprhs> let me restart my router
[11:07] <atdprhs> it could be the router
[11:10] <atdprhs> brb
[11:13] <atdprhs> I got it worked Royk :D
[11:13] <RoyK> :)
[11:16] <atdprhs> :-)
[12:19] <maxagaz> hi
[12:23] <maxagaz> I have run "ssh -D 9998 user@server", then set firefox proxy settings to localhost:9998 and set (in Firefox) network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to TRUE in the about:config, but I can't access to the web then
[12:23] <maxagaz> what's wront in my config ?
[12:24] <maxagaz> also, I'm connected directly to the internet without any firewall
[12:24] <maxagaz> is there something not well configured on the server side (lucid) or on the desktop side (natty)
[12:24] <maxagaz> ?
[12:42] <RoyK> hi all. I have a machine I want to use to control an open hotspot - I want to allow people access, but still tell them everything is logged before they get through the initial barrier. any idea if software exists for this? I guess using arptables/iptables may be possible, but then, if something exists already, that'll be easier...
[12:59] <jaundice> anyone have any insight as to why a xen 4.0.1 hvm ubuntu 11.04 amd64 (server or desktop) will not boot using 2.6.38-8 but will using 2.6.35-28. The latest kernel just drops to initramfs (waiting for root..) no amount of waiting helps. the grub boot params are identical. changing from root=UUID= to root=/dev/sdx doesn't help peither.
[13:00] <jaundice> fwiw 2.6.38-8 does boot on virtualbox fine
[13:03] <RoyK> jaundice: no idea, but AFAIK xen isn't supported anymore
[13:06] <jaundice> ubuntu in this context is domU not dom0 i.e it is a guest not a host
[13:46] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #774852 in postfix (main) "Postfix 'local' crashes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774852
[17:11] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #774964 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774964
[17:21] <Doonz> Hey guys i just isntalled ubuntu 10.04 and checked off virtual machine host. Now im looking to find a virtual machine manager gui that i could connect remotely to the server from my windows box for managing and creting virtual machines. any recommendations?
[17:26] <qman__> can't say I have any, but to help you find one, the software is KVM/qemu
[17:27] <hggdh> Doonz: you can use virt-manager
[17:28] <Doonz> how would that work on a headless server
[17:28] <Doonz> from what i can tell its a linux only package
[17:30] <RoyK> Doonz: with remote X11, virt-manager works as a charm
[17:31] <Doonz> ok so there is no windows application to connect to the kvm server remotely
[17:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #774975 in openvpn (main) "Unable to connect to my vpn" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774975
[17:32] <RoyK> Doonz: download xming and configure putty to do x forwarding
[17:32] <hggdh> another option, a bit more complex, is cygwin
[17:32] <Doonz> yeah the last time i tried cygwin didnt go so well
[17:32] <RoyK> xming is trivial
[18:33] <paulm9> anyone here
[18:34] <qman__> yes, 267
[18:35] <paulm9> cool beans. any experience with postfix?
[18:38] <qman__> some, why not ask the question you actually want the answer to?
[18:42] <paulm9> qman: I'm getting SASL authentication failed: authentication unsuccessful when trying to relay mails from postfix to exchange.  Could it be caused by the untrusted TLS connection?
[18:43] <qman__> I haven't integrated postfix with exchange myself, but I don't think that's the culprit
[18:43] <qman__> if TLS wasn't happy you'd get a different error
[18:46] <paulm9> qman_: So then it's either the authentication mechanism or the user/password.
[18:46] <qman__> I think so
[18:46] <qman__> if TLS was the problem you'd get a connection refused or a TLS error
[18:47] <paulm9> that's what i thought.
[18:49] <paulm9> i've had success using swaks so I know the exchange server is set up correctly
[18:52] <qman__> I've done plenty of work on exchange, and plenty on postfix, but I've never had to make them work together
[19:00] <paulm9> qman_:  check this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601813/
[19:00] <paulm9> this is the successful connection to the exchange server
[19:06] <paulm9> this is the postfix log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601816/
[19:08] <qman__> is postfix encoding the user/pass? exchange doesn't take plain over TLS by default
[19:30] <hackeron> hey, how do I upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 11.04? - I tried do-release-upgrade but it's saying no new release found -- I assume because 11.04 is not LTS - how do I update to it anyway?
[19:33] <shauno> hackeron: you probably need to change Prompt= to normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[19:33] <hackeron> shauno: ah, thanks!
[19:34] <shauno> I believe there's no direct upgrade path from 10.04 tho, so it'll offer you 10.10 first, then from 10.10 to 11.04 once 10.10 is installed
[19:34] <hackeron> that's fine, thanks :)
[19:51] <zul> SpamapS: gah i have 0 margin of error for my connecting flights next week
[19:58] <Andrewx> Hello, I'm trying to go from GUI to terminal at boot in Ubuntu Server 10.10
[19:58] <Andrewx> How can I go about doing this?
[20:02] <patdk-lap> there is no gui in ubuntu-server
[20:03] <Andrewx> I added one.
[20:03] <Andrewx> I think I change an init setting
[20:03] <Andrewx> And installed the desktop
[20:03] <Andrewx> So I was wondering, how can I revert back to terminal
[20:07] <paulm9> qman_: i have smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous, noplaintext
[20:07] <paulm9> smtp_sasl_tls_security_options = noanonymous, noplaintext so I'm guessing that this means that it does encoding.
[20:11] <Andrewx> So, how can I get rid of the gui?
[20:12] <Andrewx> Is there an init config file or something?
[20:12] <jgould> I did that and had to reinstall to completely get rid of the GUI
[20:13] <Andrewx> Wow... I can't re-install so..
[20:14] <Andrewx> Is there a way to change the init on boot?
[20:14] <jgould> There may be a way, but I'm not sure
[20:14] <Andrewx> Like a configuration file or something?
[20:14] <paulm9> Andrewx: I'd change the rc configs
[20:14] <Andrewx> Those are?
[20:16] <paulm9> check out: man update-rc.d
[20:18] <Andrewx> So disabling run level 5 will get me a terminal?
[20:22] <paulm9> i'm would have thought you just want to get rid of the start up script for gdm
[20:23] <Andrewx> I want to change the run level
[20:23] <Andrewx> So it will init 3
[20:23] <Andrewx> Every time I boot.
[20:24] <Andrewx> There was a simple way to do this.
[20:24] <Andrewx> I forgot how though.
[20:26] <paulm9> ah, that would be inittab you are looking for - but i see that that no longer exists because ubuntu runs upstart now
[20:30] <Andrewx> So, how can I configure with this "upstart"
[20:30] <Andrewx> ?
[20:36] <paulm9> looks like the upstart scripts will still look for an /etc/inittab
[20:37] <paulm9> I would try putting a id:3:initdefault:
[20:37] <paulm9> into the file and see if that works
[20:42] <Andrewx> Unfortunately not
[20:53] <Macer> i'm fighting with myself trying to decide whether or not i should order some hotswap bays today
[20:56] <SpamapS> zul: where are you connecting through? maybe we can get wasted in the lounge together. ;)
[20:56] <zul> SpamapS: im home now
[20:57] <paulm9> Andrewx: edit /etc/init/gdm.conf where it says stop on runlevel [016]
[20:57] <zul> SpamapS: so if you want to come here and get wasted then you are more than welcome
[21:01] <SpamapS> zul: werd
[21:01] <SpamapS> zul: but I thought you were talking about your connecting flights next week
[21:02] <zul> SpamapS: ah...next week..toronto and munich
[22:00] <paulm9> is dovecot required for getting postfix to talk to exchange?
[22:02] <qman__> ubuntu has not had an inittab since at least 6.06
[22:03] <qman__> to stop the GUI from loading at start, you need to disable the upstart script for gdm (or kdm, or xdm, or whichever one you use)
[22:04] <paulm9> qman: the dude left a while back.  fyi it's the /etc/init/gdm.conf that would need to be edited. :-)
[22:04] <qman__> ah, I was scrolled up a bit
[22:15] <paulm9> qman: is dovecot required for getting postfix to talk to exchange?
[22:18] <qman__> I don't know, but dovecot does offer considerably more control over authentication than just straight postfix
[22:21] <patdk-lap> heh?
[22:21] <patdk-lap> I dunno why dovecot would be required or have anything to do with it at all
[22:23] <paulm9> patdk-lap: according to the docs, apparently postfix doesn't implement sasl itself.
[22:23] <patdk-lap> nope
[22:23] <patdk-lap> it only supports dovecot and cyrus
[22:23] <patdk-lap> and as exchange doesn't do sasl either
[22:23] <patdk-lap> the only thing I can figure out is your using smtp to talk postfix to exchange
[22:24] <paulm9> exactly that!
[22:24] <patdk-lap> exactly what?
[22:25] <paulm9> exactly stmp client postfix -> exchange.
[22:25] <patdk-lap> did you tell postfix to use client authenication?
[22:25] <raubvogel> Same subnet?
[22:25] <paulm9> the logs say sasl authenication failed
[22:25] <raubvogel> Secure subnet?
[22:25] <raubvogel> Do you admin both servers?
[22:25] <paulm9> it's a local lan - so "secure"
[22:25] <patdk-lap> what auth methods is your exchange server allowing?
[22:26] <patdk-lap> cause postfix doesn't do ntlm
[22:26] <paulm9> no admin on windows side but i have got it to work using swiks
[22:27] <raubvogel> You can have exchange accept all emails from postfix
[22:28] <paulm9> does swiks do ntlm then?
[22:29] <Macer> uhn. my tyan s2985's cpu 2 is amazingly hot
[22:29] <Macer> anybody here with a similar board that knows anything about this?
[22:29] <Macer> i updated the bios.. tried re-pasting it... using a different fan etc
[22:30] <raubvogel> Macer, would you think your question is better server in #ubuntu?
[22:30] <Macer> it is running around 80C and cpu1 is hovering around 60
[22:31] <Macer> oh. just figured someone might have a similar board here
[22:31] <raubvogel> paulm9, you want to do mail relay with authentication, right?
[22:31] <qman__> sounds like they're both too hot to me
[22:32] <paulm9> raubvogel: i believe so yes
[22:32] <paulm9> tls and auth
[22:32] <patdk-lap> what auth methods is your exchange server supporting?
[22:32] <patdk-lap> as I said postfix won't do ntlm
[22:33] <patdk-lap> so if ntlm is the only method enabled on exchange, it just won't work
[22:33] <raubvogel> patdk-lap, he can telnet to the echange server and ask it
[22:33] <patdk-lap> yep
[22:33] <raubvogel> er, exchange
[22:33] <paulm9> 250 -AUTH NTLM LOGIN
[22:33] <patdk-lap> just issue an ehlo
[22:33] <patdk-lap> postfix supports login
[22:33] <paulm9> ok
[22:34] <paulm9> but now does login do the base64 encoding ?
[22:34] <patdk-lap> google, it tells you :)
[22:34] <raubvogel> patdk-lap, it should say something else to say it can do tls
[22:34] <raubvogel> Further down
[22:34] <patdk-lap> if it says auth htlm login, without starting tls
[22:35] <patdk-lap> then he doesn't have to do tls before auth
[22:35] <patdk-lap> not that he should, but
[22:35] <paulm9> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601813/
[22:35] <paulm9> that's the output
[22:36] <paulm9> from swiks
[22:36] <patdk-lap> ok, so login only allowed after tls
[22:36] <patdk-lap> so enable client auth and tls in postfix smtp
[22:37] <patdk-lap> http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html#client_tls
[22:37] <paulm9> smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes
[22:37] <paulm9> smtp_sasl_auth_enable=yes
[22:37] <paulm9> smtp_sasl_password_maps=hash:/etc/postfix/sasl-password
[22:37] <paulm9> #smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = login, ntlm
[22:37] <paulm9> #smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = !digest-md5
[22:37] <paulm9> smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous, noplaintext, mutual_auth
[22:37] <paulm9> smtp_sasl_tls_security_options = noanonymous, noplaintext
[22:37] <paulm9> debug_peer_list = 192.168.1.2
[22:37] <paulm9> smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = auth, login, !gssapi, ntlm, static:rest
[22:37] <raubvogel> paulm9, pastebin?
[22:39] <paulm9> oops, my bad.  here are the current conf that i have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602013/
[22:39] <raubvogel> patdk-lap, good link. I need to add it to my list
[22:41]  * patdk-lap fails to see where you enable smtp tls
[22:42] <patdk-lap> I see no smtp_use_tls or the replacement for it, smtp_tls_security_level
[22:48] <paulm9> patdk-lap: ok, so i've added those but I still get an authentication failure
[22:49] <raubvogel> What does your mail log file on your postfix box say?
[22:50] <paulm9> SASL authentication failed; server 192.168.1.2[192.168.1.2] said: 535 5.7.3 Authentication unsuccessful
[22:50] <tesseracter_> i upgraded to 11.04(desktop, but #ubuntu said to ask here), but the updater said it could not update my grub2 config. most likely this is because of my software raid setup(boot RAID1, everything else RAID 0, installed from the alternative installer on 10.10) anyone have advice where to look about this?
[22:56] <paulm9> raubvogel: if i put smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = !ntlm  then it appears sasl authentication fails due to "no mechanism available"
[23:04] <raubvogel> What about if you set it up plain
[23:04] <raubvogel> '
[23:06] <paulm9> raubvogel: nope.
[23:07] <paulm9> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602021/
[23:14] <paulm9> finally!
[23:14] <paulm9> looks like the security options were blocking it.