[00:00] <someone235> how can i make it open it with the default associated app?
[00:00] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: It doesn't seem to be changing its response, regardless of the choice that I make on that screen, and yes I did prefer the default.
[00:00] <Limada> zvacet, hope so! Thanks again.
[00:00] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, next should be OK, then Cancel, then Restart X
[00:00] <zvacet> Limada: yw
[00:01] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, just do that. you wont see any changes
[00:01] <Limada> ;), bye!
[00:01] <jubei-za> Evildaemon, you could manually reassign your ip setup on network interface to have no default gateway or dns server. You can also use iptables firewall but this is quite complicated.
 when i try to open a file from the recent document, ubuntu is trying to open it with nautilus and say "Could not display "/home/someone235/blabla.docx\nThe location is not a folder."
 how can i make it open it with the default associated app?
[00:01] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  that's really confusing... there's no messsage saying "you've reconfigured your graphics to the default / generic setting"?
[00:01] <xorpt> Hi there.
[00:02] <Evildaemon> jubei-za, which netowork interface?
[00:02] <Evildaemon> *network
[00:02] <someone235> sorry if i wrote this msg b4, cuz i think i had a lag & it didn't sent
[00:02] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, i know that failsafeX is a bit confusing . it's really badly done, yet. look...
[00:02] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: that worked btw.... it logged me in.  Should I reconfigure the graphics again using the normal tools?
[00:02] <xorpt> Can someone see on Ubuntu Natty if when you open transmission if shows active in the sidebar?
[00:02] <jubei-za> you want your wireless interface to have network communication, but not out to the internet - then you would edit ipconfig of wan0 or somthing like this
[00:03] <lcb> ahh ok SeanInSeattle. tell me where are you now
[00:03] <hiexpo> Evildaemon, is it just a wireless network you are trying to setup ?
[00:03] <Evildaemon> Will the option "link local only" work?
[00:03] <rzx237> nimrod10: go to synaptic package manager and select firefox, then select menu Package > Force version
[00:03] <Evildaemon> Yes
[00:03] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  I've logged in to normal ubuntu, and I can see the unity UI now... so it looks normal.
[00:03] <luigi_panache> Does anyone here know how Ubuntu handles ethernet interfaces? I think it's related to avachi or something called that, but I also see network manager in my rc.d folder...
[00:03] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, great. but you are using generic drivers. now... reboot
[00:04] <M3l7D0wN> is there any unity dev here?
[00:04] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: ok.  will do.  "pls wait, processing."
[00:04] <hiexpo> Evildaemon, just go to places?network   > do   you have networking already set in other box ?
[00:04] <jakerue> ok after 10.10 to 11.04 all I get are seg faults from nautilus, firefox, etc.  What are some possible solutions to this?
[00:04] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, don't worry, i have about 50 yrs ahead. i'll wait
[00:04] <Evildaemon> Yeah
[00:05] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  using the normal grub entry?
[00:05] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, yes
[00:05] <M3l7D0wN> I'm trying to add a compiz option for unity....
[00:05] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, keep going
[00:05] <M3l7D0wN> I need some help
[00:05] <M3l7D0wN> :S
[00:05] <Evildaemon> I specifically don't want it to connect to the internet though, hiexpo.
[00:05] <xorpt> Can someone please let me know if transmission is currently showing up as active in the sidebar under Ubuntu 11.04?
[00:06] <mammamia> ciao a tutti
[00:06] <mammamia> any italian?
[00:06] <hiexpo> Evildaemon, ok open places network and you will see the network   and there will be no internet that way
[00:06] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: booted to graphical login screen, login normally?
[00:06] <zvacet> !it | mammamia
[00:06] <phzinho> hello, good night everybody
[00:06] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, yes
[00:06] <Juest> mammamia: speak english or go there
[00:07] <luigi_panache> xorpt: Transmission, when launched, shows up in the sidebar.
[00:07] <fennng_> shared with samba, but from win, don't have access right, how to use chown cmd to make it work.
[00:07] <hiexpo> Evildaemon, i do not remember  how to set it up but i onlydid it with a printer and it was pretty simple task
[00:08] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: darnit!  its haning on the login.  It doesn't seem to be a graphics issue, at this point.... effing piece of crap....
[00:08] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, now type in terminal ' sudo /usr/bin/jockey-gtk '
[00:09] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: now its frozen...
[00:09] <Evildaemon> Solved, I made it work.
[00:09] <lcb> :(
[00:09] <phzinho> i updated my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 but now an error of the grub appear on startup "grub_env_export".. anyone know how to fix it? :/
[00:09] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: I know.... :(
[00:09] <Juest> Barnabas: hey, so?
[00:09] <nimrod10> rzx237, thank you seemed to be working altough after install firefox says this            XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
[00:09] <nimrod10> Location: chrome://mozapps/content/profile/profileSelection.xul
[00:09] <nimrod10> Line Number 53, Column 1:
[00:09] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, look...
[00:09] <SeanInSeattle> I believe its because I didn't reconfigure the graphics after booting into failsafe.
[00:09] <Evildaemon> Thanks all.
[00:10] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, you are going to do this in this sequence
[00:10] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  yes, I will.
[00:10] <Juest> Barnabas: seems there's trouble with fstab when using lilo
[00:10] <Juest> so i need to witre lilo.conf by hand or do something (fix) with fstab
[00:10] <Barnabas> Juest, why not use grub, its the standard for Ubuntu?
[00:11] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, sudo -i  then: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get check && apt-get -f install
[00:11] <rzx237> nimrod10: dont worry, it ussually appear when the connection to destination address is fail
[00:11] <Juest> yeah
[00:11] <techfighterminal> does anyone know a good linux native converting software so i can upload my vids to youtube
[00:11] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, then ' sudo dpkg -a '
[00:11] <rzx237> nimrod10: bug in firefox I guess
[00:11] <Moa> Hi ! After installing Natty, the display on my is green/pink but is perfect on my monitor. I tested many different configurations without success. All was working perfectly under Maverick. Does anyone have an idea please ?
[00:11] <isarl> techfighterminal: Try handbrake.
[00:11] <IdleOne> techfighterminal: there is winff in the repositories.
[00:12] <Juest> i need to know where's grub config not /etc/default/grub
[00:12] <lcb> Moa, what display graphics
[00:12] <nimrod10> rzx237,  I guess I won't be using firefox for a while
[00:12] <isarl> techfighterminal: Here's Handbrake's website: http://handbrake.fr/
[00:12] <Moa> Intel
[00:12] <Juest> Barnabas: i need to know where's grub config not /etc/default/grub
[00:12] <disPlay> hey
[00:12] <Ampelbein> Juest: /etc/grub.d
[00:12] <lcb> Moa,  did you install the proprietary? ( sudo /usr/bin/jockey-gtk )
[00:13] <ohsix> derp
[00:13] <Moa> no
[00:13] <hiexpo> techfighterminal, in which you will need ffmpeg   also winff is a frontenf to ffmpeg
[00:13] <lcb> Moa, try it
[00:13] <lcb> Moa, then reboot, don't forget
[00:13] <luigi_panache> I tried getting help on ##linux but it says I can't send the message or something...
[00:14] <techfighterminal> thanx will try...
[00:14] <luigi_panache> "Cannot send to channel"
[00:14] <Moa> lcb, no proprietary drivers
[00:14] <Barnabas> hmm I think the grub package is more or less self configuring, to the degree, where it detects your installed kernels - I am not sure though, anyone feel free to confirm this
[00:14] <hiexpo> luigi_panache, register in freenode
[00:14] <isarl> I've been having some trouble with my graphics after updating to 11.04. It seems like nouveau isn't being used, or isn't working properly, or something. I don't appear to have any hardware acceleration.
[00:14] <lcb> luigi_panache, check the topic, probably that's not the help chan
[00:15] <Solnse> I hope somebody can point me in the right direction, since upgrading to Ubuntu 11, it hangs on loading, the last thing I see is "checking battery state..." and it just hangs there. I think it has to do with my graphics driver because I can load into failsafe graphics mode, and I also see [fail]  on starting load fallback graphics devices. Can somebody help please?
[00:15] <lcb> Moa, so your issue is having the display with strange colors?
[00:15] <mikinanuq> Solnse: is it nvidia?
[00:15] <lcb> Moa, is that a portable computer?
[00:15] <Solnse> ATI Radeon 3850
[00:15] <Moa> TV display is green/pink but the monitor display is perfect. They are behind a hdmi splitter
[00:16] <jsebean> hi
[00:16] <Moa> The same config worked perfectly under Maverick.
[00:16] <Juest> Barnabas: i am trying to locate grub configuration that update-grub generates
[00:16] <mikinanuq> Solnse: hmm I had the same thing but I have nvidia... I had to go in recovery mode and apt-get install linux-headers-generic.. then works fine
[00:16] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu?
[00:16] <lcb> Solnse, use the Catalystic Control Center to configure it, not the option "Monitors"
[00:17] <Souperman> so a lot of people is having problems whit the nvidia thing then
[00:17] <pragmaticenigma> Moa: does it work when just the tv is plugged in, not using the splitter?
[00:17] <hiexpo> add repos for video simple fix
[00:17] <Moa> During the system boot the TV image is perfect until unity or gnome starts
[00:17] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu?
[00:17] <Barnabas> Juest if you edit that one I think you changes will dissapear every time a new kernel is installed
[00:17] <Juest> jsebean: use startup programs to add/edit/delete startup programs
[00:17] <Solnse> mikinanuq: I get permission denied...
[00:17] <hiexpo> nvidia anyways an i think ati also has it
[00:17] <lcb> btw, everyone should see if there is the graphics utility installed and so use it, instead of Monitors...
[00:17] <Moa> pragmaticenigma, exactly the same:with or without splitter
[00:17] <Solnse> nm, i forgot sudo
[00:18] <Juest> Barnabas: then how do i force it to keep it
[00:18] <luigi_panache> I registered I think and I still can't send to the channel.
[00:18] <inaxio> hello i just downloaded the 11.04 update and dislike the new launcher on the side, how can i make it so my system looks like it did pre-update (eg normal bar at top, no launcher)
[00:18] <jsebean> Juest: I do that, and it works the first time i login, but then it gets removed and i have to add it to startup programs again, any ideas?
[00:18] <pragmaticenigma> Moa: you may have already said it but what is the graphics card?
[00:18] <Juest> try running gksudo gnome-control-center
[00:19] <Solnse> lcb: I'm sorry I don't understand... where do I find the catalyst control?
[00:19] <jsebean> ??
[00:19] <Osmodivs> Everytime I login my monitor resolution is messed up, it is 1024x768, I always change it as root to 1440x900, wich is the Max res for my monitor, but everytime I login, the resolution is back to 1024x768. I must say that months ago I tweaked Xconfig to install a Tablet-Pen with no succes, I want to delete it because I do not needed anymore, does anyone knows what needs to be deleted so I have my Xconfig file back to normal??
[00:19] <Osmodivs> http://pastebin.com/RhmZEbDm
[00:19] <Moa> pragmaticenigma, Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
[00:19] <hihihi100> how do I change the boot screen? I have every plymouth package installed, but solar does not work 11.04
[00:19] <Barnabas> Juest, it produces a menu.lst file probably in /boot somewhere
[00:19] <Barnabas> Juest : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:19] <lcb> Solnse, under Applications check Catalystic
[00:20] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu? I add it to startup programs, and it works first time i login, but when i logout and log back in its removed and i have to add it to startup programs again, any ideas?
[00:20] <pragmaticenigma> Moa: I unfortunatly have no experience with the intel chipsets...
[00:20] <Juest> got it
[00:20] <lcb> jsebean, Startup Applications
[00:20] <Barnabas> Juest, remember the menu.lst is a generated file
[00:20] <Solnse> lcb: I get an initialization error when trying to open the Catalyst Control Center: No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly
[00:20] <Moa> pragmaticenigma, thanks anyway
[00:20] <jsebean> i did that and it works the first time
[00:21] <jsebean> but once i log out and back in it gets removed
[00:21] <lcb> Solnse, disable the proprietary driver, reboot, enable it again
[00:21] <Juest> is grub.cfg
[00:21] <inaxio> hello i just downloaded the 11.04 update and dislike the new launcher on the side, how can i make it so my system looks like it did pre-update (eg normal bar at top, no launcher)
[00:21] <inaxio> i do not have much idea how to change this
[00:21] <Solnse> lcb: do you know of a walk-through page for that?
[00:21] <Ampelbein> inaxio: select 'ubuntu-classic' at the login screen
[00:22] <Osmodivs> And I have this on the terminal:  WARNING:  Unable to find CorePointer in X configuration; attempting to add new CorePointer section.   WARNING:  The CorePointer device was not specified explicitly in the layout; using the first mouse device    WARNING:  Unable to find CoreKeyboard in X configuration; attempting to add new CoreKeyboard section.   WARNING:  The CoreKeyboard device was not specified explicitly in the layout; using the first keyboard dev
[00:22] <Osmodivs> ice.
[00:22] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu? I add it to startup applications, and it works first time i login, but when i logout and log back in its removed and i have to add it to startup applications again, any ideas why this happens i dont want to have to keep adding it to startup applications?
[00:22] <inaxio> ampelbein: will try, thank you
[00:22] <pylix> can you format a drive natively from the terminal?
[00:22] <luigi_panache> pylix: Yes. Use mkfs.
[00:22] <Juest> Barnabas: got it /boot/grub/grub.conf
[00:22] <Juest> Barnabas: got it /boot/grub/grub.cfg*
[00:23] <lcb> Solnse, type in a terminal -> sudo /usr/bin/jockey-gtk and tell me if is anything loaded or disabled
[00:23] <carmine> hi guys
[00:23] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu? I add it to startup applications, and it works first time i login, but when i logout and log back in its removed and i have to add it to startup applications again, any ideas why this happens i dont want to have to keep adding it to startup applications?
[00:23] <lcb> jsebean, i told you.... Startup Applications, then add the command
[00:24] <Solnse> lcb: no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[00:24] <Guest78791> help! ubuntu unity on 11.04 is very odd
[00:24] <jsebean> lcb: you didnt read the rest of what i said
[00:24] <jsebean> how can I make a program launch on startup every time i login on Ubuntu? I add it to startup applications, and it works first time i login, but when i logout and log back in its removed and i have to add it to startup applications again, any ideas why this happens i dont want to have to keep adding it to startup applications?
[00:24] <lcb> Solnse, and nothing in there to be enabled?
[00:24] <unforgiven512> I can not get my wifi to work on my laptop. I have the driver enabled in "Restricted Drivers" correctly. I've rebooted multiple times. I've tried disabling, rebooting, re-enabling, rebooting. I've tried '$ sudo rfkill unblock all", no luck.
[00:24] <Solnse> lcb: however I can choose to activate ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver on this window
[00:24] <lcb> jsebean, that's not normal. what app is that?
[00:25] <jsebean> google-chrome
[00:25] <Soothsayer> after I make changes to my /etc//hosts, what do I have to do to activate it?
[00:25] <Guest78791> is there a way to move that bar in a different position? maybe in the bottom of the screen?
[00:25] <lcb> Solnse, activate it
[00:25] <Soothsayer> I added a line "127.0.0.1   webly.lh"  to my /etc/hosts/
[00:25] <Soothsayer> /etc/hosts  **
[00:25] <lcb> guest, no
[00:25] <Solnse> lcb: it's downloading and installing. thank you... so when I reboot all should be good?
[00:25] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, what kind of wifi card is it      > first ?
[00:25] <Guest78791> what a sadness
[00:25] <unforgiven512> It shows up under '$ lspci' as 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[00:26] <lcb> Solnse, if not good DO NOT USE "Monitors" but the Catalystic Control Center
[00:26] <Solnse> lcb: ok.
[00:26] <ohzie> Hey guys
[00:26] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, open terminal and run   iwconfig
[00:26] <Otoris> Is it just me or does Unity look terribly huge and bulky, I also have no clue what apps I have cause there is complete list of them :(
[00:26] <Solnse> lcb: rebooting to try. thanks again.
[00:26] <unforgiven512> lo and eth0, no wlan0
[00:27] <slee> hey,  I used  sudo checkinstall..  and whenever I use apt-get , I get WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[00:27] <slee> is there a fix?
[00:27] <Guest78791> Otoris, me too
[00:27] <unforgiven512> It worked fine under 10.10, I did a full wipe and fresh install, btw
[00:27] <jonte> Hey. I just installed ubuntu 11.04, and I'm trying this Unity thing.. There's a neat search bar, but it doesn't find anything useful.. Can I make it index my drive? (Searcning for 'Makefile' yields nothing, when I'm actually right now looking at a Makefile in my terminal..)
[00:27] <ohzie> I have a friend who lost his password, and I had him put a 1 on his initrd line in grub, to boot into single user mode, and it booted him to his username instead of to root. What is the current way to do what I am trying to help him do? :(
[00:28] <ayrton> how do i change the look of 11.04 back to the look of 10.10
[00:28] <lcb> pls... don't private me. my wife takes the keyboard away from me
[00:28] <Otoris> Logout and select gnome classic
[00:28] <janisozaur> ayrton, choose 'ubuntu classic' at login screen
[00:28] <Otoris> ayrton
[00:28] <unforgiven512> ayrton: At login, please select ubuntu classic
[00:28] <Ampelbein> ayrton: choose 'ubuntu classic' at login screen
[00:28] <Guest78791> quote ayrton
[00:28] <Guest78791> ok!
[00:28] <bvierra> hey all, just updated to 11.04, using "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller" and openGL for compiz causes the background not the refresh
[00:28] <ayrton> lol nice support , but some1 told me that but i dont see it
[00:28] <lcb> she's very jealous
[00:28] <bvierra> basically drag a window around and you see its trail for a while
[00:29] <Ampelbein> ayrton: when you choose your user, there is a listbox at the bottom
[00:29] <unforgiven512> hiexpo: lsmod returns wl and lib80211, I think there should be ssb, mac80211, and cfg80211, perhaps?
[00:29] <ayrton> ok ill try it this is anoying
[00:29] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, try sudo modprobe BCM4311
[00:29] <janisozaur> ayrton, you have to log out if you are logged in and click on your user name, so that the password box is shown, then look to the bottom of th screen
[00:29] <unforgiven512> hiexpo: not there
[00:30] <syn3rgy> How do I change the names of the icons on the dock bar. I have 6 firefox profiles. Now they all say Firefox Web Browser.
[00:30] <janisozaur> is there a ubottu !factoid for 'how to switch to ubuntu classic'?
[00:30] <unforgiven512> bcm203x, bcm3510, bcm5974, bcm63xx, bcm_wimax
[00:30] <Otoris> Wasn't Chrome/ium supposed to replace firefox in this update?
[00:30] <Juest> !unity
[00:30] <syn3rgy> No firefox 4
[00:30] <lcb> janisozaur, logout and select ubuntu classic
[00:30] <janisozaur> Otoris, no, they are going to evaluate it for 'o' version
[00:31] <janisozaur> lcb, read my question again
[00:31] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, than you don't have the driver so you need to get it   >   so best place would probally be aircrack-ng    :0
[00:31] <thorstenmz> can someone verify this bug in unity + compiz? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/769957
[00:31] <ghostnappa> Okay guys, I have a problem. On my main PC, various shmup games seem to be uncontrollable. Most think that I am holding up+left, but rrootage just doesn't move at all. it happens on ubuntu variants, fedora, and every other linux install that I have tried so it isn't just ubuntu exclusive. Testing in a liveCD environment between two seperate PC's reveals that this is only a problem with my PC and not the other one. This
[00:31] <ghostnappa> is a problem with native games, WINE, and MAME. But seems to only be effecting games with joystick support. I honestly have no idea where to start searching for answers here, but thought this could be a decent starting point. I have no joysticks, just using a standard keyboard and mouse
[00:31] <unforgiven512> hiexpo: I don't understand. I installed the driver from "restricted drivers", it worked totally fine, out of box on Ubuntu 10.10. Taking a step backwords, are we?
[00:32] <coz_> thorstenmz, yes I can verify that... probably a nux issue,, I now that logging off and back on fixes it
[00:32] <Juest> Barnabas: hey, still
[00:32] <syn3rgy> ghost I am still reading chapter 2 of your post
[00:32] <Juest> bah, froget it
[00:32] <torchie> how do I know when I'm running unity 2d or 3d
[00:32] <ghostnappa> Oh right, sorry
[00:32] <thorstenmz> ok
[00:32] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, no cause now you are on 11.04 right ?
[00:32] <lcb> janisozaur, looks like isn't
[00:32] <unforgiven512> hiexpo: I am on 11.04, yes. But, why is there a regression from 10.10?
[00:32] <Bookman> Since upgrading to 11.04 I seem to have lost my 3D capability on my ATI Xpress200.  Seemed fine before the upgrade.  Not sure how to correct.
[00:33] <luigi_panache> How do I manually bring up an interface?
[00:33] <jerriy> Hi
[00:33] <ayrton> ok ty but now how do i change grub boot loader to boot with ubuntu pae so i can use all my ram?
[00:33] <ayrton> boot it first instead of non pae
[00:34] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, i don't know why i am not a dev for ubuntu      >    but do you want to have somethingthat will last for 3 years with no problem ?
[00:34] <Solnse> lcb: thank you very much, now in Ubuntu 11 for the first time. will have fun learning the new GUI
[00:34] <Barnabas> Juest, did you get it working?
[00:35] <Juest> working what?
[00:35] <syn3rgy> ayrton are you sure your chipset supports extended memory management?
[00:35] <DanCar> anyone know anything about these update connection problems?
[00:35] <Barnabas> Juest, grub?
[00:35] <SerialMDK> anyone here help me with a problem?
[00:35] <unforgiven512> hiexpo: I'll probably just tinker with it more, and see if Ic an fix it.
[00:35] <ayrton> yea
[00:35] <syn3rgy> ayrton look in your BIOS
[00:35] <Ampelbein> ayrton: 'https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring GRUB 2'
[00:35] <syn3rgy> ayrton there should be a "switch" to turn it on
[00:35] <ayrton> ... i just need to set another kernel as default boot..
[00:36] <syn3rgy> ayrton the kernel is not the whole story often.
[00:36] <hiexpo> unforgiven512, ok good luck with that i was going to suggest you using 10.04lts i use it with 2.6.38.5 kernal and it is great and very fast
[00:36] <ayrton> can i modify grub boot loader
[00:36] <Ampelbein> ayrton: see the link I gave you, it has the instuctions. tl;dr version: edit /etc/default/grub
[00:36] <janisozaur> !classic is The default interface since 10.10 is !unity. You can switch back to regular !gnome by selecting 'Ubuntu classic' in the box at the bottom while having your user selected on login screen.
[00:37] <lcb> janisozaur, :)
[00:37] <Jordan_U> ayrton: Easiest thing to do is just remove the non-pae kernels.
[00:37] <ayrton> give link without quotes
[00:37] <Ampelbein> ayrton: ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring GRUB 2
[00:37] <Juest> Barnabas: are you getting any PMs?
[00:37] <janisozaur> lcb, this should help some people, I hope so :)
[00:37] <ayrton> ty
[00:37] <Antilect> I uninstalled GRUB today
[00:37] <Antilect> was pretty hard for a noob like me
[00:37] <lcb> janisozaur, yea
[00:38] <SoobNauce> I am of the opinion that grub is evil
[00:38] <arand_> ayrton: Normally the pae kernels are set to boot first per default..
[00:38] <Barnabas> Juest, no none - but feel free to ask here
[00:38] <janisozaur> !classic is The default interface since 11.04 is !unity. You can switch back to regular !gnome by selecting 'Ubuntu classic' in the box at the bottom while having your user selected on login screen.
[00:38] <SoobNauce> but my experience was painted by the fact that I forgot to give myself root access on the debian install that used it
[00:38] <Juest> Antilect: how do you uninstalled it?
[00:38] <Juest> Barnabas: really?
[00:38] <Juest> check
[00:38] <ayrton> arand its not
[00:38] <Antilect> I had to use a Win XP install disc
[00:39] <ayrton> i have to hold shift and boot into the pae kernel
[00:39] <Antilect> 1. boot from it, 2. Choose repair, 3. Use MBR or FIXBOOT coomand
[00:39] <Antilect> then it's gone
[00:39] <Antilect> type HELP for commands
[00:39] <Antilect> FIXBOOT and MBR I think
[00:39] <SerialMDK> anyone here help me with a problem?
[00:39] <arand_> Antilect: Well, true, that's quite offtopic here though.
[00:39] <Ampelbein> !anyone | SerialMDK
[00:39] <syn3rgy> antilect the cure for Windows is format C
[00:39] <Juest> oh lol
[00:39] <SerialMDK> i try to install 11.04 and get a black screen
[00:40] <rzx237> ayrton: /etc/default/grub on GRUB_DEFAULT=0 I guess
[00:40] <Antilect> syn3rgy not the cure for GRUB thou
[00:40] <lcb> SerialMDK, how come?
[00:40] <hiexpo> excuse me chan ops i know what i am about to say is wrong   but    >>   Juest you have been wasting peoples timehere for two days now it is obvious you are to stupid to use linux  >   so quit wating peoples time here and return to your click n go windoz thanx
[00:40] <SerialMDK> iidk i tried 32 bit and 64 bit
[00:41] <SerialMDK> several cd's and flash drives
[00:41] <SerialMDK> all black screen
[00:41] <MrHatter> i just upgraded my desktop to 11.04 and now i can move the mouse around but nothing works. no buttons, no keyboard, nada.
[00:41] <Osmodivs> Everytime I login my monitor resolution is messed up, it is 1024x768, I always change it as root to 1440x900, wich is the Max res for my monitor, but everytime I login, the resolution is back to 1024x768. I must say that months ago I tweaked Xconfig to install a Tablet-Pen with no succes, I want to delete it because I do not needed anymore, does anyone knows what needs to be deleted so I have my Xconfig file back to normal??
[00:41] <Osmodivs> http://pastebin.com/RhmZEbDm
[00:41] <Jordan_U> hiexpo: That is indeed not apropriate and I ask that you do not insult users in the future if you wish to remain in this channel.
[00:41] <Osmodivs> And I have this on the terminal:  WARNING:  Unable to find CorePointer in X configuration; attempting to add new CorePointer section.   WARNING:  The CorePointer device was not specified explicitly in the layout; using the first mouse device    WARNING:  Unable to find CoreKeyboard in X configuration; attempting to add new CoreKeyboard section.   WARNING:  The CoreKeyboard device was not specified explicitly in the layout; using the first keyboard dev
[00:41] <Osmodivs> ice.
[00:42] <christhecoolboy> The Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer...
[00:42] <hiexpo> Jordan_U, ok i know
[00:42] <hiexpo> sorry   Jordan_U
[00:42] <SerialMDK> no one can tell me why install black screens?
[00:42] <Juest> hey Barnabas https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#File Structure
[00:43] <lcb> SerialMDK, write the nicks of ppl you are talking to so they are highlighted... is that an 11.04 ISO?
[00:43] <jonte> Hey, can I get some help with the Unity search?
[00:43] <MrHatter> upgrade to 11.04, no keystrokes or mouse buttons, anyone know where i can start ?
[00:43] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ yes an iso and tried from flash drive 32 and 64 bit
[00:43] <compubomb> is it worth me upgrading to 11.04?.. my system right now on 10.10 is pretty stable, no issues what so ever.
[00:43] <lcb> SerialMDK, what happens?
[00:44] <hiexpo> Jordan_U, thanks   ":)
[00:44] <MrHatter> compubomb, dont do it!
[00:44] <tripelb> hi! how do I get tibetan letters? I get chinese, etc but squares for tibetan
[00:44] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ i click install to hdd and it goes black
[00:44] <lcb> SerialMDK, besides the monitor being off :)
[00:44] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ im not that stupid...
[00:44] <Osmodivs> ¡china
[00:44] <compubomb> I'm just wondering what the major benefits are.
[00:44] <lcb> SerialMDK, how do you click install?
[00:44] <Osmodivs> ¡chinese
[00:44] <Osmodivs> ¿?
[00:44] <BitsMaster> A little problem here
[00:44] <tripelb> compubomb not yet - unless you do it in a separate partition OR have "too much time on your hands" and want to learn and fuss.
[00:44] <MrHatter> compubomb, well it just hosed my system.
[00:44] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ its like 3 down in the list when i boot the cd
[00:44] <compubomb> MrHatter: i'm just wondering what the major benefits are.
[00:44] <jonte> .. And can I add applets to the top unity bar? I need the CPU frequency applet
[00:44] <BitsMaster> I want to remove a package
[00:44] <lcb> SerialMDK, i was kidding, bro
[00:45] <OY1R> after getting this error > http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH (mount /dev on /root failed invalid argument), i was told to reinstall grub, now when i reboot i only get a grub prompt_ anyone ? using ubuntu 10.10.
[00:45] <LjL> compubomb: different interface for starters, which you might or might not like... honestly if youre 10.10 is fine and you don't need new software, why upgrade.
[00:45] <hiexpo> BitsMaster, what package you want to remove ?
[00:45] <compubomb> MrHatter: i have a default install on my pc, so no other partitions other than linux
[00:45] <BitsMaster> but apt-get installs other packages automaticly
[00:45] <lcb> SerialMDK, how did you load that iso image to the flash?
[00:45] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ universal usb loader
[00:45] <MrHatter> compubomb, mine was an ordinary default system too. now i have to figure out how to fix it.
[00:46] <rzx237> compubomb: you need to try yourself, use USB disk or Live CD to try 11.04, somehow it is awesome
[00:46] <compubomb> LjL: yah, that is what i was thinking, other than it would be nice to get open office 3.0
[00:46] <BitsMaster> so apt-get remove chromium, the following packes will be removed (...) the following packages will be installed (...)
[00:46] <BitsMaster> I don't want to install new packs
[00:46] <lcb> SerialMDK, format the flash and load the image with unetbootin. format the drive you are going to install with ext4.
[00:46] <BitsMaster> I want to just remove the packages I specified
[00:46] <BitsMaster> Anyone has an idea?
[00:46] <hiexpo> BitsMaster, are you familar with pastbin ?
[00:47] <BitsMaster> yes
[00:47] <janisozaur> !cn | Osmodivs
[00:47] <BitsMaster> I will paste it
[00:47] <Susanna> Hi there, updated Ubuntu and now graphical output is dead slow when second monitor is connected
[00:47] <OY1R> BitsMaster, you could select them in senaptic package manager
[00:47] <OY1R> de-select
[00:47] <hiexpo> BitOperator, ok pastebin the output of that
[00:47] <hiexpo> BitsMaster, :0
[00:47] <Susanna> Switched to gnome 3, no difference. Seems to be a driver issue?!
[00:47] <lcb> Susanna, what graphic adapter or driver installed?
[00:47] <hiexpo> :)
[00:47] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ that still dont explain why cd's wont work
[00:48] <lcb> ahhh, Susanna gnome 3 is not supported yet
[00:48] <Susanna> Hi lcb, using the intel one
[00:48] <Osmodivs> I hate Unity
[00:48] <lcb> SerialMDK, CD or FLASH?
[00:48] <Evildaemon> Is the authentication protocol currently used by gshare secure?
[00:48] <Osmodivs> I want Gnome3, Like everybody else
[00:48] <Susanna> lcb: well, tried with Unity as well but was the same problem
[00:48] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ i tried both, burned through like 10 blank cd's so far
[00:48] <BitsMaster> http://http://paste.ubuntu.com/601522/
[00:48] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | Osmodivs
[00:48] <syn3rgy> Where can I get the source code for Unity ? C++ not C ?
[00:49] <compubomb> anyways..
[00:49] <lcb> Susanna, type in terminal ' sudo /usr/bin/jockey-gtk ' and see if any driver is needed
[00:49] <Nuc134rB0t> Hello everyone i need some help installing natty. It wont recognize my partitions from an IDE drive.
[00:49] <lcb> SerialMDK, always with the same ISO image?
[00:49] <janisozaur> syn3rgy, apt-get source unity
[00:49] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ no i downloaded it new everytimg
[00:49] <BitsMaster> It drives me crazy, even in Synaptic it auto-installs the packages
[00:49] <lucas> hi! I want to install grub2 on external usb disk. Is there a way to use uuid's instead of conventional device naming like root=/dev/sda?
[00:49] <janisozaur> syn3rgy, no 'sudo'
[00:50] <Evildaemon> SrialMDK, have you md5'ed the ISO yet?
[00:50] <lcb> SerialMDK, if your computer handles booting from flash you don't need to haste CDs
[00:50] <Susanna> lcb: "No proprietary drivers are used on this system"
[00:50] <Juest> how do i fix fstab iusses? i am having troubles with UIDs
[00:50] <syn3rgy> janisozaur is there a git server I can clone or pull it from?
[00:50] <BitsMaster> I can't be deselected, and Lubuntu-desktop is beeing removes too... :X
[00:50] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ i think the flash drive is screwed and i have tons of cd's so i dont care
[00:50] <lcb> SerialMDK, that's weird and first time seeing something like that. better trying what i told you. download the ISO from ubuntu official
[00:51] <Susanna> bg
[00:51] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ i had 9.1 and tried to upgrade to 10.02 and that failed too
[00:51] <lcb> Susanna, is that a first run after upgrading?
[00:51] <Susanna> Juest: ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[00:51] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ i did dl from ubuntu.com
[00:51] <Susanna> lcb: Yes
[00:51] <janisozaur> syn3rgy, sorry, no idea. try at #ubuntu-devel
[00:52] <Susanna> lcb: well I did reboots already
[00:52] <syn3rgy> Just wondering is there ANYBODY here that actually likes Unity? Wonder if Canonical is listing to its users. Maybe they are idk.
[00:52] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ is it possible my ~>computer<~ just wont run it?
[00:52] <lcb> Susanna, might need to reboot. sorry one thing.. was that an upgrade or fresh install?
[00:52] <Susanna> lcb: upgrade
[00:52] <syn3rgy> janisozaur Ill take a look over there thx
[00:52] <livecd_guy> I'm in 11.04 livecd right now.. why can't I see the unity desktop?
[00:52] <janisozaur> !classic | lcb
[00:52] <janisozaur> lcb, :)
[00:52] <Susanna> lcb: please don't tell me to reinstall
[00:52] <as2000_> I like Unity. Like anything else, it just takes getting used to.
[00:52] <PalinBachman2012> i like UNITY
[00:52] <PalinBachman2012> i didnt at first, tho
[00:53] <Jordan_U> syn3rgy: bzr get https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/unity/ubuntu
[00:53] <lcb> SerialMDK, try gurning the flash with unetbootin. if so you'll get more options to check if is a monitor or graphics falt
[00:53] <lcb> falt/fault
[00:53] <lcb> Susanna, , please reinstall
[00:53] <Juest> uuids are right in fstab, but lilo thinks is not ordinary, why?
[00:53] <lcb> Susanna, j/k :p
[00:53] <Juest> any lilo channel????
[00:53] <syn3rgy> Jordan_U thx going to grab a copy asap
[00:53] <ayrton> i cant find how to mod the boot order in grub2
[00:54] <Jordan_U> syn3rgy: You're welcome.
[00:54] <lcb> Susanna, did you do the upgrade as it should - updating previous ubuntu, fixing the system and not interrupting the upgrade process?
[00:54] <lucas> hi! I want to install grub2 on external usb disk. Is there a way to use uuid's instead of conventional device naming like root=(hd0,2)?
[00:54] <Jordan_U> ayrton: Remove all your non-pae kernels.
[00:54] <bastidrazor> Juest: there is a #lilo channel
[00:54] <Susanna> lcb: I reckon it is a bloody driver issue and will be solved over time (http://bit.ly/mLhpDN). Why do you think a reinstall will solve the issue
[00:55] <ayrton> i dont want to remove them
[00:55] <silentz0r> hello, i just upgraded to natty (11.04) and my laptop has been behaving weirdly. The shutdown promt pops up and shuts down after 50 seconds even if I press cancel a million times, and now the laptop doesn't even boot up (i press the power button and it starts for 2 seconds, then dies instantly).
[00:55] <Susanna> lcb: The update ran without any issue
[00:55] <tjiggi_fo> ayrton, get Startup Manager from Synaptic (it'll be in applications when installed) and set the order from there
[00:55] <Susanna> lcb: and everything worked well before
[00:55] <lcb> Susanna, i was kidding, as i said right after it. don't need to reinstall
[00:55] <tripelb> hi! how do I get tibetan letters? I get chinese, etc but squares for tibetan
[00:55] <Juest> i am wanting to remove a broken gnome, i can't why?
[00:55] <lcb> Susanna, do the failsafeX. you now how?
[00:56] <ayrton> also were is visual effects in 11.04
[00:56] <Susanna> lcb: Yes, I'll try
[00:56] <lcb> Susanna, do the default, to start
[00:57] <zenlunatic> tripelb: just curious.  does it work on windows
[00:57] <lcb> Susanna, SHIFT after bios messages and before grub, recovery, failsafeX and blah blah... i think you know
[00:57] <asdf_msc> where can i get updated 32 bit libraries for 64 bit ubuntu?
[00:57] <ayrton> were are visual effects in 11.04?
[00:58] <syn3rgy> ayrton ccsm needs to be reinstalled.
[00:58] <lcb> ayrton, check under Themes & Tweaks
[00:58] <Jordan_U> ayrton: Why don't you want to remove them if you don't use them?
[00:58] <tripelb> I dont know about windows zenlunatic - I am reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1192750 but that's 2 years ago. Also I've got seamless chinese and hebrew (never did anything) so I am expecting that it is not really hard.
[00:58] <rzx237> ayrton: it is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, although it say do not edit the file, I bet you can edit it carefully
[00:59] <Omega> syn3rgy: https://code.launchpad.net/unity
[00:59] <tripelb> zenlunatic, I dont know anything about tibetan text in windows (correction of my sentence)
[00:59] <zenlunatic> tripelb: never heard of it but id be impressed.  thats a small language
[01:00] <syn3rgy> Omega thx for that tip.
[01:00] <silentz0r> anyone? I really need my laptop to be on at least.
[01:00] <botcity> silentz0r, how did you upgrade ?
[01:00] <karma_police> i cannot get ubuntu 10.10 to connect to my g1 tethered wifi..
[01:00] <xaos11> I'm trying to make btnx launch upon boot or login. It requires root to run properly, and I tried putting the command in the sudoers file but it doesn't help when I put the command in startup items. With the sudoer entry, I am able to execute the command as normal user without sudo, as btnx -b, or /etc/init.d/btnx start, but not as a startup entry. I checked execute permissions on the rc2.d entry but for some reason it isn't working. If I
[01:01] <silentz0r> botcity: had 10.10, the system upgrade popped up, I pressed upgrade
[01:01] <Omega> Did it get interrupted?
[01:01] <tripelb> re languages, I went into languages. it told me language support is not installed completely. I chose to install it. (this is ubuntu 10.04) will report what happens... zenlunatic
[01:01] <silentz0r> nope, laptop was untouched
[01:02] <xaos11> I don't really know how to check the log files to know if something interrupted it
[01:02] <karma_police> i cannot get ubuntu 10.10 to connect to my g1 tethered wifi. is there something special you have to do in order to connect to an ad-hock network?
[01:02] <zenlunatic> tripelb: good luck, thats a niche
[01:02] <lcb> silentz0r, what do you get when booting?
[01:02] <zenlunatic> karma_police: man iwconfig
[01:03] <silentz0r> lcb: nothing, laptop doesn't boot. If I unplug the power and plug it back in, it boots for 2 seconds with a blank screen and then it's off
[01:03] <tripelb> ubuntu help did not help me. how do I see the print queue. is there an icon for it. I ended up with two copies.
[01:03] <karma_police> what then?
[01:03] <silentz0r> lcb: same thing happened yesterday but it booted somehow after 2 hours of trying to boot
[01:03] <lcb> silentz0r, and that is happening only after upgrading or did it before?
[01:03] <zenlunatic> karma_police: ad_hoc is ad_hoc it shouldnt matter what device is hosting it
[01:03] <zenlunatic> karma_police: are you getting an ip address, first off
[01:04] <silentz0r> lcb: nope
[01:04] <tripelb> languages is NOT it for getting text fonts.
[01:04] <lcb> silentz0r, press F8 while booting and select the HD, then press SHIFT while booting
[01:04] <karma_police> i can connect to wireless networks using ubuntu.. i can dual boot and connect to phone using windoz.. just won't connect on ubuntu
[01:05] <zenlunatic> karma_police: youre not helping me
[01:05] <nsur> hi all. anybody has tried natty 11.04?
[01:05] <zenlunatic> karma_police: "connect to wireless networks" is kinda vague
[01:05] <zenlunatic> karma_police: are you getting an ip first off
[01:05] <karma_police> i'm not sure.. booted into windows right now in order to get on the net
[01:05] <lcb> silentz0r, got it??? first we are trying to boot on the correct media; then we are going to the grub menus
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: I did get it, but the thing is nothing shows up
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: just a blank screen for less than a second
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: then it dies
[01:06] <lcb> silentz0r, what type of portable is that?
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: Acer Timeline X 4820 TG
[01:06] <karma_police> i'm using 10.10 with a usb wireless nic...
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: looked up the thread on ubuntu forums as well, nothing mentioned
[01:06] <silentz0r> lcb: furthermore, when I unplug and replug the power supply, it start automatically!
[01:06] <lcb> silentz0r, is F8 the correct key for selecting the media to boot? i guess so...
[01:07] <IdleOne> tripelb: System > Admin > Printing > click on printer > view print queue
[01:07] <silentz0r> lcb: this would inquire BIOS to start
[01:07] <silentz0r> lcb: but BIOS doesn'
[01:08] <[4-tea-2]> Natty! \o/
[01:08] <hiexpo> hey IdleOne how you been ?   awhile
[01:08] <lcb> silentz0r, do this.... unplug the power cord. remove the battery. press the power button for about 20 seconds. then put everything back on. then boot. press the key to go to bios and select defaults. save and reboot.
[01:08] <IdleOne> hiexpo: good thanks.
[01:08] <hiexpo> :)
[01:08] <jonte> Guys.. The search feature in unity.. Is there any information on it? How can I make it index my files?
[01:08] <zenlunatic> karma_police: okay i see youre not going to troubleshoot
[01:08] <lcb> silentz0r, remove CDs, USBs before...
[01:09] <botcity> silentz0r, have you a live cd just to see if it boots.
[01:09] <silentz0r> lcb: i tried holding it down for 5 secs, gonna try 20
[01:09] <Arachon> I have a lot of hidden directories in my home folder, that carry the name of some installed programs (e.x. ".xchat" ".armagetronad"), would I be correct in assuming that these folders contain config data for said programs?
[01:09] <nsur> have you tried natty?
[01:09] <lcb> silentz0r, but in that order i told you, it's important
[01:09] <silentz0r> botcity: i can put it on my flash drive
[01:09] <carl-m> Arachon: yes. sometimes they also have cached data and similar things put there by the program
[01:09] <amews_aj> Has the TASKbar been removed in Ubuntu 11.04 ? Replaced by the "dock" ?
[01:09] <IdleOne> Arachon: correct
[01:09] <r0fs3ck5> Tell me, is natty LTS?
[01:09] <syn3rgy> Who are the core developers of Unity ?
[01:10] <[4-tea-2]> So, please tell me, am I the only one with video/audio issues? (vdr+xine: "No Signal", xbmc: very slow framerate video, no audio)
[01:10] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[01:10] <IdleOne> r0fs3ck5: no it isn't
[01:10] <lcb> !LTS
[01:10] <Arachon> carl-m: Right, so, essentially, if I want to back up my savegames, this would be the place?
[01:10] <silentz0r> lcb: doesn't boot up with the battery on
[01:10] <Arachon> I realize this will vary between programs, but generally
[01:10] <r0fs3ck5> IdleOne: ty
[01:10] <carl-m> Arachon: it depends on the game. Some games use /var/games
[01:11] <lcb> silentz0r, remove the battery. and try again with the cord. something's wrong with that computer, not natty
[01:11] <silentz0r> lcb: it's crazy, it boots up on it's own when there's no battery
[01:11] <pr3d4t0r> Q. Can you please tell me which utility will run a memory test on a running system that will report a faulty SIMM?  Headless 1U server in co-lo, Dapper.  Thanks in advance.
[01:11] <silentz0r> lcb: nothing was wrong until I upgraded
[01:11] <silentz0r> lcb: and as I told you, the shutdown prompt was up and I even if I selected cancel it would promt me again
[01:11] <syn3rgy> I mean "normal" linux and BSD list who does what ie http://www.debian.org/intro/organization#officers . I want to know who is the core team for Unity.
[01:11] <Lxndr> I have music on my iPod and want to use a program to extract music from the iPod to my hard drive. Does a program like that exist for ubuntu, and if so, where can I find it?
[01:11] <silentz0r> lcb: and eventually shut down
[01:11] <lcb> silentz0r, strange... can you elaborate a bit lol... you remove the battery and the power cord and still boots?
[01:11] <gkahn> hi all, a query: I am following a tutorial to compile a kernel, and tells me I have a requirement lib64qt3-devel, but can not find in ubuntu. Does anyone know which repositories should I aim for to download? or what would the equivalent file gnome desktop?
[01:12] <silentz0r> lcb: no, i remove the cord and the battery, then plug the cord and it boots up
[01:12] <[4-tea-2]> pr3d4t0r: from userspace: memtester, but you might also have a memtest entry in your grub menu.
[01:12] <silentz0r> lcb: ofc it doesn't boot with no power source :P
[01:12] <silentz0r> lcb: I wouldn't complain AT ALL if that was happening :D
[01:12] <mjs> hi all...i need to know about website ripping?
[01:12] <pr3d4t0r> [4-tea-2]: Checking on both - thanks.
[01:12] <lcb> silentz0r, ok. did you press the key to go to bios setup?
[01:12] <silentz0r> lcb: yes, can't
[01:12] <[4-tea-2]> pr3d4t0r: not sure if dapper has either ;)
[01:13] <silentz0r> lcb: it doesn't go as far as BIOS
[01:13] <silentz0r> lcb: just a second, maybe less, of blank screen
[01:13] <syn3rgy> I saw this happen to Red Hat back in the 90's...
[01:13] <pr3d4t0r> [4-tea-2]: Installing memtester - thanks.
[01:13] <lcb> silentz0r, sorry to ask, are you sure is the correct key? on acer i believe if F2 isn't? or DEL
[01:13] <[4-tea-2]> pr3d4t0r: yw
[01:13] <mjs> wget is the way to go?
[01:13] <silentz0r> lcb: i tried DEL as well
[01:13] <silentz0r> lcb: to enter BIOS settings. Nothing works
[01:13] <Enekk> Hello everyone, I hate to bother, but I was hoping someone could tell me if there was a way to reduce/disable the active window shadows in 11.04.
[01:14] <tripelb> Idleone, can I make some kind of shortcut to that. (In windoze for instance it appears in the taskbar drawer when you have something in it. I think.)
[01:14] <silentz0r> lcb: it looks as if the BIOS doesn't even load
[01:14] <lcb> silentz0r, DEL, ESC, F8 ... one of those, not sure on that machine
[01:14] <[4-tea-2]> mjs: if you feel comfortable on the command line, wget is all you need.
[01:14] <Enekk> (I already tried the Compiz window decorations plugin in ccsm)
[01:14] <goldfire> who had some difficult to install ubuntu 11.04
[01:14] <lcb> silentz0r, that's really strange. do you have anything in the CD drive or USB?
[01:14] <tripelb> idleone I've forgotten that at least twice before.
[01:14] <Juest> umm, how to force monitor detecion
[01:14] <[4-tea-2]> mjs: it does recursive retrieval, optionally spanning hosts
[01:14] <silentz0r> lcb: nope
[01:14] <Juest> or list the modules?
[01:15] <Juest> modules that can be modprob ed
[01:15] <needlez> hey, got a quick question, what is the deal with trying to install dofus on ubuntu 11.04?? dofus is a program that uses adobe air to install, it wont install at all for me.
[01:15] <mjs> 4-tea-2, ok...so how to assign target directory?
[01:15] <Juest> needlez: install air first
[01:15] <syn3rgy> Is there anyway for me to get my 3D cube desktop back. I have a VM on each desktop.
[01:15] <tripelb> Progress towards "seeing" Tibetan characters. I googled differently and ... http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=1829c03d30fa52bf&hl=en
[01:15] <coz_> guys I have a issue finally,, since lucid my cursor will ,, without warning ,, jump around the screen,, any solutions?
[01:15] <lcb> silentz0r, you need to discharge  that computer. remove the battery, the power cord, wait a while then.
[01:15] <needlez> also, has anyone had any glitches or issues with the screensaver?? rss-glx and nvidia graphics cards?
[01:16] <carl-m> needlez: screensaver crashed for me earlier today, after upgading. I disabled it
[01:16] <[4-tea-2]> mjs: cd target; wget ... will result in a target/www.myserver.com/...
[01:16] <syn3rgy> needlez what card and divers?
[01:16] <syn3rgy> needlez is it pre CUDA ?
[01:16] <lcb> silentz0r, in any case, go to that model's site and see if there is any known issue. i believe it is a coincidence what's going on. not really 11.04 fault
[01:17] <silentz0r> lcb: I hope so, I really like ubuntu and don't wanna go back to g4y M$
[01:17] <mjs> 4-tea-2, one sec..
[01:18] <lcb> coz_,  try changing the mouse. that happened w me too and solved
[01:18] <r0fs3ck5> mjs: sudo mkdir website, cd website, wget www.website.com
[01:18] <Josesordo> hello all... Gnome 3 or Unity? .. what do you think?..
[01:18] <[4-tea-2]> mjs: man wget is your friend - especially the section on Recursive Retrieval Options.
[01:18] <IdleOne> silentz0r: please don't use the term gay as a pejorative also try to keep it family friendly as possible in here. thank you.
[01:18] <njbair> I added a filezilla launcher to the unity dock and when I open filezilla the dock doesn't show it as running.
[01:18] <syn3rgy> silentz0r Debian Squeeze is really nice ... ZERO blobs in the kernel now. Stable as heck etc. Don't go back to MS
[01:18] <pr3d4t0r> [4-tea-2]: Would you recommend any number of tests, or just one?  AMD64 3 GHz.
[01:18] <carl-m> Josesordo: they both seemed odd to me, so I switched to xfce
[01:18] <coz_> lcb,  well the mouse has been changed many times with the same issue,, regardless of the manufacturer
[01:18] <pr3d4t0r> [4-tea-2]: I meant test runs.
[01:18] <coz_> this has been consistently happening since lucid
[01:18] <silentz0r> IdleOne: that's why I used the non existant word g4y.
[01:18] <coz_> amoung other things :(
[01:18] <lcb> silentz0r, for now we only really need to have that machine turning on... ubuntu or other distro or OS is irrelevant at this point
[01:19] <Enekk> Sorry I might have missed if someone answered my question, I hit the wrong thing and killed chat (derp)
[01:19] <nsur> silentz0r: reboot then hit BIOS (f2/f12/dell) key right away repeatedly until you have the BIOS manager. hope will help
[01:19] <Name141> Is it possible to make a startup flash disk within windows without booting to a CD?
[01:19] <IdleOne> silentz0r: obfuscation of a word does not change the meaning and intent.
[01:19] <silentz0r> lcb: know that
[01:19] <trollboy> so, is there a handy link on how to customize the new menu bar on ubuntu?
[01:19] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ it still black screens using unetbootin
[01:19] <silentz0r> IdleOne: you never know the intent, unless the author tells you what the intent is.
[01:19] <[4-tea-2]> pr3d4t0r: I usually let memtest run for a couple of hours (e.g. over night) with changing test patterns.
[01:19] <lcb> coz_, i was using an asus mouse on a non asus machine. changed it and problem solved
[01:20] <IdleOne> silentz0r: ok. I am not going to debate this with you. Just please don't do it again.
[01:20] <Josesordo> carl-m, xfce can use compiz and some docky?
[01:20] <r0fs3ck5> trollboy: which ubuntu?
[01:20] <pr3d4t0r> [4-tea-2]: Coolio - thanks.
[01:20] <trollboy> r0fs3ck5, I just upgraded to 11.04
[01:20] <trollboy> Naughty Narwhal?
[01:20] <IdleOne> trollboy: unfortunately there isn't much customization available to you.
[01:20] <silentz0r> IdleOne: I get what you're saying, but I have a quite big issue and you point out something completely irrelevant which doesn't help.
[01:20] <luchino> ciao a tutti
[01:20] <lcb> SerialMDK, i'm really sorry and i understand how you are. from my side i'm out of ideas :(
[01:21] <[4-tea-2]> trollboy: check your spelling, it's obviously Nutty Narwhal
[01:21] <mythos> hi, may someone is able to answer. do somone know with which compile-parameters the ubuntu 10.10 binaries are build (except glibc, i know they are optimised for i686)?
[01:21] <carl-m> Josesordo: I think so; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203877
[01:21] <trollboy> [4-tea-2], sorry
[01:21] <r0fs3ck5> trollboy: feature still in development
[01:21] <IdleOne> silentz0r: it is relevant to the atmosphere we in the ubuntu community try to keep in our irc channels.
[01:21] <[4-tea-2]> trollboy: ego te absolvo.
[01:21] <lcb> IdleOne, could you try silentz0r pls pretty pls
[01:21] <akharris> Hey, I'm on a Macintosh, And my sound isn't working. There is a infared beam coming from my headphone jack and when i go under sound in system settings i dont know what to do. Running 32bit 11.04 17inch Macbook pro
[01:21] <r0fs3ck5> trollboy: but you can try
[01:21] <njbair> would anyone recommend a GUI FTP client besides filezilla?
[01:21] <IdleOne> lcb: I said please twice. :)
[01:21] <trollboy> r0fs3ck5, stil in development?  But I thought I got the stable release?
[01:21] <akharris> what do
[01:21] <Enekk> @Name141: Yes, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Installing%20Ubuntu%20on%20USB%20drive%20using%20Windows
[01:22] <lcb> IdleOne, noooo.. with his issue
[01:22] <lcb> oops, IdleOne sorry, i mean SerialMDK
[01:22] <IdleOne> trollboy: you did get the stable release but it is not feature full as you would hope at this point.
[01:22] <trollboy> oh well
[01:22] <trollboy> I'll wait
[01:22] <silentz0r> lcb: he probably won't, as I said a bad word while in a bad situation.
[01:23] <[4-tea-2]> njbair: I prefer the command line, but sometimes I use nautilus for ftp/ssh file transfer.
[01:23] <Name141> Enekk: I downloaded the AMD 64 bit ISO and for some reason this machine wont boot with it
[01:23] <[4-tea-2]> njbair: nautilus is your standard file manager on Ubuntu
[01:23] <akharris> Hey, I'm on a Macintosh, And my sound isn't working. There is a infared beam coming from my headphone jack and when i go under sound in system settings i dont know what to do. Running 32bit 11.04 17inch Macbook pro
[01:23] <lcb> IdleOne, i believe is a hardware issue.. but, just in case you have more ideas.. the comp don't even boot
[01:23] <asdf_msc> where can i download 32-bit development libraries for 64 bit?
[01:23] <carl-m> Name141: I had all sorts of trouble with the 64bit iso today
[01:23] <r0fs3ck5> trollboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1623950
[01:23] <mjs> 4-tea-2, perfect!!!...thank you much...!
[01:23] <[4-tea-2]> mjs: yw!
[01:23] <carl-m> Name141: does it have any sort of error message?
[01:23] <Name141> carl-m: my new system doesn't have drives yet
[01:23] <tripelb> now that I have a font where do I put it for it to be "installed"?
[01:23] <lcb> silentz0r, was my mistake referring to you, sorry
[01:24] <tamer> Hello, I am trying to load the uinput module but it's not working. No errror messages are given. Any ideas?
[01:24] <Name141> carl-m: was hoping to see hot it ran Ubuntu (live)
[01:24] <silentz0r> lcb: ah, nvm
[01:24] <needlez> syn3rgy: sorry, its a nvidia 310M, and using the screensavers don't crash just I noticed a strange line that seperates the screen half like
[01:24] <carl-m> Name141: sure; but what sort of error do you get, if any?
[01:24] <akharris> Any1 here on Macbook or any apple product running Ubuntu 32bit 11.04?
[01:24] <Lxndr> I have music on my iPod and want to use a program to extract music from the iPod to my hard drive. Does a program like that exist for ubuntu, and if so, where can I find it?
[01:24] <Name141> carl-m: It just sits there black, can't move the mouse or anything
[01:24] <Enekk> Name141: You might want to download the 64 bit alternative iso, maybe it is a weird driver issue?
[01:24] <needlez> Juest: KK, ill try that im gonna uninstall it right now then try that
[01:24] <carl-m> Lxndr: I used to be able to do with with rhythmbox, but for some reason I can't seem to do it with banshee now.
[01:24] <snowdrop1> akharris: Im on a Macbook Air (3,2)...running Ubuntu  11.04, but its 64.
[01:25] <Name141> Enekk: If I'm doing it over, I'm getting the 32bit
[01:25] <Name141> I don't have the bandwidth to do it over and over
[01:25] <akharris> snowdrop, do u have any problems with sound?
[01:25] <Enekk> Name141: Is your machine in fact not 64 bit?
[01:25] <Name141> Enekk: this machine is E2160
[01:25] <syn3rgy> needlez that card is a good card in laptops. Also supports cuda. Don't see what there should be a problem
[01:25] <carl-m> do you get a mouse pointer? Is the machine set to boot from the cd drive?
[01:25] <Name141> Enekk: the new one without drives in it yet is Athlon II X4
[01:25] <akharris> snowdrop1: Do you hav problems with your sound?
[01:25] <tamer> Guys, anyone managed to enable auth via the fingerprint reader?
[01:25] <syn3rgy> needlez did you install the Nvidia drivers?
[01:26] <snowdrop1> akharris:  I did get an issue with sound (had no sound) after updating my perfectly working 10.10 to 11.04...but I solved it just a few minutes ago by removing the mactels sound-stuff
[01:26] <Josesordo> carl-m, I dont know.. XCFE seems old version.. I prefer install gnome 3.. I will try.. xD
[01:26] <lcb> SerialMDK, just occurs to me. do you have on that laptop a reset "hole"?
[01:26] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ im installing on a desktop
[01:26] <carl-m> Josesordo: whatever you prefer, it's up to you.
[01:26] <akharris> snowdrop1: Do you think you could walk me through with that? im new to Ubuntu and want to fix my no sound problem
[01:26] <snowdrop1> akharris: PM.
[01:26] <Enekk> Name141: Well, google tells me that the the E2160 is 64bit, I'd guess the other is as well
[01:27] <Name141> Enekk: maybe bad download ?
[01:27] <lcb> SerialMDK, hmmm so the other option is resetting CMO
[01:27] <mdel> pr3d4t0r: memtest+
[01:27] <needlez> syn3rgy: no drivers where provided when i installed ubuntu 11.04,  didn't even have to activate them
[01:27] <mdel> pr3d4t0r: boot to grub and select it
[01:27] <Enekk> Name141: but it sounds like you hit a graphical issue if you just got a black screen.  Try the alternative isos
[01:27] <lcb> SerialMDK, did you ever do that? is the pc case open?
[01:27] <SerialMDK> i have a reset switch
[01:27] <Name141> Enekk: It's not really a graphical issue if the USB isn't responding and I can't get to the desktop lol
[01:27] <carl-m> needlez: the drivers are usually done automatically, if you selected the box for non-free software at the beginning of the install
[01:27] <lcb> SerialMDK, no, that's not that one, in this situation
[01:28] <Name141> Enekk: The "try/install" screen doesn't even come up before it scews up
[01:28] <Name141> screws
[01:28] <tripelb> Howto Install FONT? now that I have a font where do I put it for it to be "installed"? Help wont load what I choose. goes to arrow curosr to show it's done. Then click choice again and help vanished. Ubuntu fail. (did it twice)
[01:28] <Enekk> Name141: That is why I think drivers, maybe graphics, it has a fully graphical install environment
[01:28] <syn3rgy> needlez ahhh OK. You are using the VESA drivers then. If you Activate the Nvidia ones then your problems should be gone.
[01:28] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ cmos?
[01:28] <needlez> nvidia 270.41.06, also sometimes when i click a window it wont totally grab it correctly
[01:28] <carl-m> Name141: try the 32bit, see if it works better. I had to burn three discs before I managed to get one that worked today
[01:29] <shiftingcontrol> I am doing distro update,if my pc gets shutdown because of power when processing installing the upgrades what will happen ?
[01:29] <Name141> carl-m: I'll have to wait till about 3 AM then
[01:29] <carl-m> Name141: what time is it for you locally?
[01:29] <Name141> carl-m: 7:27 PM
[01:29] <needlez> also adobeair isnt in my synaptics.. not sure why this is a 64bit edition
[01:29] <MrHatter> shiftingcontrol, hell would reign down.
[01:29] <carl-m> shiftingcontrol: usually you can just reboot and start again
[01:29] <carl-m> Name141: that sucks
[01:30] <lcb> SerialMDK, resetting the CMO. you need to find (manual/user guide) a jumper to reset it. also you need to remove the battery from the motherboard.
[01:30] <Name141> carl-m: that's hughesnet caps.
[01:30] <syn3rgy> Its 2:29am here
[01:30] <shiftingcontrol> MrHatter, carl-m:after restart i should start d/l again to update ?
[01:30] <SerialMDK> lbc, i have a switch that clears it without removing battery
[01:30] <syn3rgy> sudo shutdown -hP now
[01:30] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~
[01:30] <carl-m> shiftingcontrol: how are you doing the update the first time?
[01:30] <Name141> carl-m: I suppose I could use the 32bit 10.10 on a USB stick for now to test the machines workability , sensors (temps) and all for now.
[01:30] <bjsnider> !find vmwgfx_drv.so
[01:31] <newbie112> Hello, can anyone tell me what has happened to my comp? My keyboard does not work in Terminal except for the enter button
[01:31] <shiftingcontrol> carl-m, Update manager
[01:31] <Enekk> Anyone out there know how to remove the active window drop shadows in 11.40 on classic mode?
[01:31] <lcb> SerialMDK, so try it. but look at the manual to see the exact procedure
[01:31] <Name141> carl-m: I suppose I'd only have 3.2 GBs of RAM
[01:31] <Name141> of the 4
[01:31] <bjsnider> !find vmwgfx_dri.so
[01:31] <tripelb> HowTo Install a font -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts -- dhu.. double click on the extracted font file.
[01:31] <SerialMDK> ~>lcb<~ ok ill try it
[01:31] <jerriy> Hi
[01:32] <lcb> SerialMDK, on a last case scenario remove the HD and at least we know if is or not a 11.04 issue. i'm pretty sure isn't
[01:32] <jerriy> Question: my sudo failed (can't update, can't install apps cant do nothing) Can someone tell me how on earth I should work
[01:32] <MrHatter> i just upgraded to 11.04 and have know desktop input, ctrl-alt-f2 works, but nothing on the desktop, mouse moves around, but no clicking or keyboard stuff. where do i start ???
[01:32] <carl-m> shiftingcontrol: sometimes you have to run dpkg --configure --pending or similar. but I would start by just trying the update again, assuming the system will boot
[01:32] <newbie112> can anyone tell me why my keyboard stopped working in terminal
[01:32] <shiftingcontrol> carl-m, Thanks
[01:32] <carl-m> if it won't boot, I would do what I would recommend in the first place: don'ty upgrade, just install clean
[01:32] <newbie112> it works otherwise
[01:33] <bobbyd> Hey, is there any way to move the window close icon to the right when a window is maximized in 11.04 and using unity?
[01:33] <Enekk> bobbyd: Check out Ubuntu Tweak (google for it) I think it'll do that (not sure if it will for Unity)
[01:33] <fishhat> clear
[01:34] <Name141> Enekk: I just use UNetbootin to try the 64bit ISO ?
[01:34] <jerriy> Can sb help me I have a sudo problem
[01:34] <unforgiven512> Figured out my wlan issues, switched from wl to b43, works fine now :)
[01:34] <fishhat> what happpend?
[01:34] <bobbyd> Enekk, that only seems to work when not maximised
[01:34] <fishhat> sudo problem
[01:34] <fishhat> ..
[01:34] <victorhugo289> sudo problem :P
[01:34] <Enekk> Name141: Yeah, it installes the iso to your flash drive and then you can boot off of that
[01:34] <needlez> got adobeair 2 for 64 bit, had to do it myself as they dont release packages for the 64bit
[01:34] <jerriy> fishhat: yes I can't update/install and all that
[01:34] <Enekk> bobbyd: oh, sorry then mate
[01:35] <fishhat> what are you running?
[01:35] <bobbyd> Np, thanks anyway :)
[01:35] <fishhat> linux?
[01:35] <carl-m> jerriy: what is the problem?
[01:35] <newbie112> can anyone help me?
[01:35] <bjsnider> !find vmwgfx_drv.so maverick
[01:35] <carl-m> newbie112: it works in other applications?
[01:35] <newbie112> yes
[01:35] <asdf_msc> apparently i need to 'install 32-bit development libraries', where might i find them?
[01:35] <needlez> ok, even with me installing it, as a 64 bit myself it still wont install Dofus ... what is goin on here,
[01:35] <newbie112> everything else except terminal
[01:35] <Enekk> bobbyd: I think it might be hard because of the unity menu thing - it literally occupies the space that a right sided control would
[01:35] <carl-m> try making a new profile in terminal to see if it's something in the profile preferences
[01:36] <carl-m> file->new profile
[01:36] <Juest> !help | newbie112
[01:36] <jerriy> the problem is what i stated: can't do anything (unable to resolve host"
[01:36] <Juest> !repeat | newbie112
[01:36] <Juest> well lol
[01:36] <carl-m> jerriy: what command are you typing that it says that?
[01:36] <syn3rgy> I too say "good by and thanks for all the fish"
[01:36] <jerriy> sudo apt-get update  (for example)
[01:37] <carl-m> jerriy: please run this: sudo whoami
[01:37] <Name141> Enekk: how would I know how much space I could tell it to save for saving across reboots ?
[01:37] <carl-m> does it say "root" ?
[01:37] <trollboy> what about killing the autohide?
[01:37] <lcb> newbie112, unplug and plug the kb
[01:37] <needlez> also, its lagging horribly on updating xchat here, it took like 5 minutes and its lagging something terrible
[01:37] <bobbyd> Enekk, that's what I thought, but it's really annoying to be forced to do that if I want to use unity, I'll just go back to classic mode then
[01:37] <trollboy> I use synergy and I keep just popping over to the other screen instead of activating the menu?
[01:37] <Name141> Enekk: It's a 7.64 GB flash drive ( " 8 GBs " )
[01:38] <Enekk> Name141: You don't really need much, the thing is that it will partition the free space and you can always save to that.  Maybe set it to 1 or 2 gigs
[01:38] <trihope> does anybody know how to open another browser window from the launcher icon once you already have one open?
[01:38] <newbie112> whats a kb?
[01:38] <jerriy> carl-m: I cant "sudo" so "sudo whoami" is no go
[01:38] <morelli> hi why would unity display little static(as in tv static) screens everywhere where an icon or menu should be?
[01:38] <Enekk> Bobbyd: I left unity for classic too, not worth the pain
[01:38] <lcb> newbie112, keyboard
[01:38] <newbie112> oh
[01:38] <Name141> Enekk: I told it 2000 MBs
[01:38] <newbie112> its not pluggable
[01:38] <newbie112> laptop
[01:38] <carl-m> jerriy: when you run 'sudo whoami' it says something about resolving the host?
[01:38] <jerriy> yes
[01:39] <newbie112> i tried a new profile and looked at the preferences but it didnt seem to be anythingin there
[01:39] <Enekk> name141: that's more than enough
[01:39] <bobbyd> Yeah, it's a shame though as it's got potential
[01:39] <asdf_msc> 32-bit dev libraries, anybody know where to get them?
[01:39] <carl-m> this is before it asks for a password?
[01:39] <Enekk> bobbyd: true, give it a release cycle or two
[01:39] <newbie112> i just upgraded to natty narwhal
[01:39] <newbie112> maybe that has something to do with it
[01:39] <jerriy> no after
[01:39] <lcb> newbie112, you might need to reconfigure it then.
[01:39] <newbie112> the terminal was working
[01:39] <newbie112> hmm
[01:40] <newbie112> i got up to the point where it wants you to input your password to get your encrypted key to store
[01:40] <trihope> how do you open another browser window from the launcher icon once you already have one open?
[01:40] <newbie112> and it stopped working
[01:40] <Name141> Enekk: seems to be taking all day on "filesystem.squashfs"
[01:40] <ChogyDan> trihope: can you just click it again?
[01:40] <jerriy> carl-m: I've tried to sort out the issue by reading stuff on the net and stuff like /etc/hosts but I can't see what's wrong
[01:41] <morelli> why would unity display little static(as in tv static) screens everywhere where an icon or menu should be?
[01:41] <lcb> newbie112, it worked before???
[01:41] <asdf_msc> trihope: Ctrl+N on the open window
[01:41] <Enekk> name141: it does because it is making a 2000 meg container, give it time
[01:41] <trihope> nope, that's not working
[01:41] <trihope> k hold on
[01:41] <newbie112> yes the terminal was working
[01:41] <Name141> aye
[01:41] <newbie112> now I am at the point where it wants to randomly generate a key
[01:41] <lcb> newbie112, restart then. did you try it?
[01:41] <carl-m> jerriy: can you run 'gksudo gnome-terminal' successfully?
[01:41] <Name141> Enekk: okie dokey it's moving again
[01:41] <newbie112> so I clicked run action now
[01:41] <ChogyDan> trihope: also try right clicking the launcher
[01:41] <newbie112> it pulls up the terminal
[01:41] <newbie112> and suddenly only enter works
[01:41] <asdf_msc> ChogyDan: doesn't do it
[01:41] <Enekk> Name141: I tend to install from the USBs, if this fails you really should try the alternative ISO when your cap is up as it has a non graphical installer
[01:42] <newbie112> no i will restart
[01:42] <lcb> newbie112, yes
[01:42] <newbie112> restart terminal?
[01:42] <newbie112> yea i did that
[01:42] <trihope> ChogyDan: I tried clicking it and it does nothing
[01:42] <lcb> newbie112, the computer
[01:42] <jerriy> carl-m: no I can't gksudo
[01:42] <Name141> Enekk: I just want to make sure the motherboard isn't DOA , or processor, or RAM..
[01:42] <newbie112> but i will restart the computer if this it what you are thinking
[01:42] <Name141> Enekk: Before I go ordering a hard drive and DVD burner
[01:42] <newbie112> oh ok
[01:42] <jerriy> (process:5324): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[01:42] <needlez> ok, so i just got kicked from my session also, like seriously someone got a good debian based derivative that works unlike ubuntu 11.04?? and not mint just transferred from it because its updates never worked properly
[01:42] <asdf_msc> trihope: are you using chrome or firefox?
[01:42] <Enekk> Name141: Understood.
[01:42] <lcb> newbie112, you can log off and on again. if doesn't work restart
[01:43] <trihope> asdf_msc: i guess it's a little more complicated than that. I created a launcher for chrome incognito
[01:43] <bastidrazor> needlez: 10.04 works well and is freakishly stable
[01:43] <Name141> Enekk: the 'setting up persestince" is taking forever now
[01:43] <carl-m> jerriy: can you post the exact error, and the contents of /etc/hosts, to a pastebin?
[01:43] <Enekk> Name141: You might also want to go download The Ultimate Boot CD and run some burn in tests on your hardware, but that will need to be made a CD
[01:43] <asdf_msc> yes, that's not quite what you were asking
[01:43] <jerriy> pastebin?
[01:43] <trihope> for some reason it has regular chrome open and when I click on the launcher for icognito it won't open a new browser
[01:43] <Enekk> Name141: Yeah, sorry about that, the whole making space thing takes for freaking ever
[01:43] <KNUBBIG> !pastebin | jerriy
[01:43] <morelli> why would unity display little static(as in tv static) screens everywhere where an icon or menu should be?
[01:44] <Name141> Enekk: OK, so it's not 'hung' ?
[01:44] <trihope> asdf_msc: for some reason it has regular chrome open and when I click on the launcher for icognito it won't open a new browser
[01:44] <bastidrazor> morelli: bad reception?
[01:44] <Enekk> Name141: Likely not, I've seen it take upwards of 10 minutes before
[01:44] <trihope> asdf_msc: i tried the ctrl+n and it did open a new browser but it's not icognito.  brb
[01:45] <morelli> bastidrazor: funny, but it looks like memory from gpu in graphical form;)
[01:45] <eoss> hello, i have installed portal 2 on wine and i am getting intense flickering in the video when playing, ive google searched this problem and i am coming up with nothing, i am sure my graphic card drivers are updated
[01:45] <eoss> i have radeon hd4870
[01:45] <needlez> bastidrazor: cant use 10.04 i have i7 toshiba laptop that wont allow any kernel before 2.6.35 to run properly , hence 10.04 uses like 2.6.32 i think so i can even get it to install
[01:45] <morelli> bastidrazor: raw memory from gpu in graphical form;)
[01:46] <trihope> asdf_msc: back
[01:46] <bobbyd> Eoss, video like movies? Or just the 3d scene?
[01:46] <eoss> i mean the game
[01:46] <eoss> the sequence movies seem fine its in game
[01:46] <botcity> morelli, is it a fresh install from cd ? or a upgrade from update manager
[01:47] <eoss> switching to windowed mode helps but not fully still unplayable, in non-windowed its very insane flickering
[01:47] <bobbyd> Ok, how about using winetweaks to instal the official d3d libs?
[01:47] <jerriy> carl-m: /etc/hosts ········> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601536/
[01:47] <bastidrazor> needlez: what a crapy laptop
[01:48] <morelli> botcity recent upgrade when it asked i agreed
[01:48] <trihope> asdf_msc: if i click on the regular chrome launcher it will open new regular browser, but the indicator triangle shows up on the icognito launcher even though I don't have icognito window open
[01:48] <eoss> bobbyd: not sure how to do that, ill do some research
[01:48] <Rehan> is there a way to run the sensors-applet with a flag?
[01:48] <Enekk> Name141: I am going to have to run now.  Anything else I can answer before I do?
[01:48] <carl-m> jerriy: what output do you get from 'hostname'
[01:48] <morelli> botcity: recent upgrade when it asked i agreed
[01:49] <morelli> botcity: gpu is ati asus ah 3450
[01:49] <jerriy> carl-m: "myhost"
[01:49] <trihope> asdf_msc: fixed it. I just ran "unity --replace" and it showed up and launcher seems to be working fine now
[01:49] <carl-m> jerriy: ok, making progress. now, run '/sbin/ifconfig lo' and tell me if you see "inet addr:127.0.0.1"
[01:49] <duffmyver> anyone have any ideas how to fix either the brightness keys or my intermittent wifi problems on a samsung n150, running netbook edition? i have wifi working, but it'll only work sometimes - have to keep  rebooting my machine until it works
[01:50] <duffmyver> i'm a real linux noob...
[01:50] <GamingDroid> is there no 11.04 version for LTS?
[01:50] <carl-m> GamingDroid: no, 11.04 is not LTS
[01:50] <bazhang> GamingDroid, no
[01:51] <KM0201> GamingDroid: whyw ould there be?
[01:51] <jerriy> carl-m: inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[01:51] <carl-m> jerriy: the problem seems to be you have 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts but you need to have 127.0.0.1
[01:51] <Enekk> Name141: Well, I hope not.  Good luck and remember, if you really want to test your new hardware go download the Ultimate Boot CD and run some of the testing tools on there.  I always do it with new hardware.
[01:51] <duffmyver> anyone have any ideas about the wifi on a samsung n150?
[01:52] <Otoris> Anyway to shrink the gigantic size of this obtuse launcher?
[01:52] <carl-m> Otoris: stand farther away from the screen?
[01:52] <saege> is there no option to add shortcuts on the desktop from unity?
[01:52] <GamingDroid> So when is the next LTS release?
[01:52] <Otoris> Ha! seems like it would work.
[01:52] <bazhang> GamingDroid, 12.04
[01:52] <GamingDroid> So it is released every 2-years?
[01:52] <carl-m> Otoris:  I don't like it either, but I couldn't see any direct way to configure the size or the color
[01:52] <carl-m> maybe someone else here knows
[01:52] <jerriy> carl-m: meaning I need to add "myhost" to the first line in etc/hosts?
[01:53] <carl-m> jerriy: or just change the 127.0.1.1 to 127.0.0.1
[01:53] <trihope> how do i change icons on the unity launcher (the image)
[01:53] <carl-m> I can't guarantee that's the problem, but it seems like something that's not right
[01:54] <botcity> morelli, does it boot up ok ?
[01:54] <jerriy> I'll try that and will be back (certainly if it didn't work out ;), carl-m
[01:54] <linuxmonkey> were would i find the md5 hash to make sure a cd i downloaded is authentic
[01:54] <needlez> bastidrazor: crappy is an opinion and point of perspective, to me it isn't crappy however, when an OS like ubuntu goes and changes all things and half those things are buggy and not just with my laptop but multiple machines in my home, i believe it is an OS issue
[01:55] <botcity> linuxmonkey, from the site you got the image
[01:56] <carl-m> Otoris: if you install the compiz settings manager, it's under 'Unity plugin' -> 'Experimental'
[01:56] <bastidrazor> needlez: prior releases, before 11.04, work outstanding on the vast majority of comptuers. if your laptop can not run pre 2.6.35 kernel.. it _is_ crappy
[01:56] <Otoris> carl-m: Thanks, I'll look into that
[01:56] <carl-m> the package name is compizconfig-settings-manager and the program name is than ccsm
[01:57] <needlez> bastidrazor: then most i7 laptops would be crappy under that statement, which is very untrue, like i said crappy is an opinion not fact, and i have multiple i7 computers which don't like kernels before 2.6.35...
[01:57] <linuxmonkey> botcity,  no i found it anyways. i downloaded it off newsgroups and just wanted to check the checksum
[01:58] <eoss> ok no idea how to improve my situation with regards to graphics problems in wine, any halp appreciated
[01:58] <morelli> botcity: i hard restarted it onece and it showed me this static, hard reset again, only first screen showed, so tty1 remove unity, restart ubuntu told me that my hardware can't  use unity(douh unity was gone by that time), another hold, restart gdm
[01:58] <bastidrazor> needlez: apples and oranges.
[01:58] <ChogyDan> eoss: have you checked the wine app page for your app?
[01:59] <Logan_> eoss: /join #winehq
[01:59] <morelli> botcity: and now i'm using classic
[02:00] <needlez> well, it looks like maybe a distro change is in order guess i could try fedora, maybe the got the wifi cards working this time
[02:00] <twiggy_> can someone tell me how to make the ubuntu unity launcher stop hiding when i have a program open?
[02:00] <aeon-ltd> needlez: you might wanna try linux mint, they're kinda known for more compatibility stock than other distros
[02:01] <kippers> hi all!
[02:01] <eoss> ChogyDan: yes i checked, this bug is not there
[02:01] <needlez> aeon-ltd: just was using mint, however had an issue with repos with them they wouldn't always update correctly
[02:01] <kippers> is anybody here?
[02:02] <honsson> what's ubuntu?
[02:02] <needlez> thats y i went back to ubuntu figured 11.04 might be good, since mint just didn't wanna work for me
[02:02] <ChogyDan> eoss: if it is just wine, then you should ask in #winehq
[02:02] <bazhang> honsson, you know that
[02:02] <kippers> can i get some support?
[02:02] <carl-m> honsson: not much, really
[02:02] <honsson> bazhang: i actually don't know
[02:02] <l00pb4ck> are the ppa's still down?
[02:02] <jonrafkind> i accidentally removed the 'logout/shutdown' button from my gnome-panel, how do I get it back?
[02:03] <kippers> how can i stop my wireless from dying all the time? soetimes it works, but often it won't connect, even if it sees networks
[02:03] <carl-m> kippers: there are a lot of people here; just ask your question and someone will respond
[02:03] <Juest> jonrafkind: use add panel
[02:03] <bazhang> www.ubuntu.com honsson have a read
[02:03] <ChogyDan> jonrafkind: try adding indicator applet session
[02:03] <jonrafkind> i have the indicator applet already
[02:03] <Juest> shutdown applet?
[02:04] <dxdemetriou> In indicator applet when I create a profile for vpn connection id does not let me to save it without password (with Marverick I could).
[02:04] <ChogyDan> jonrafkind:  session <
[02:04] <greenlantern> can't install ubuntu 11.04 with unetbootin, after getting the file in pendrive with unetbooting , rebooting with usb first priority boot device, it's not booting ubuntu-11.04 , i get a message "Verifiying pool data" , and it's waiting for long time , can anyone point me where is the mistake ?
[02:04] <honsson> bazhang: so its an os
[02:04] <kippers> i haven't a clue about all this linux stuff, but it seems to run much better on my netbook than win7 does )
[02:04] <Julito35> which is the channel of argentina?
[02:04] <jonrafkind> ChogyDan, oh sorry you wre right, session is different from just the regular applet
[02:04] <bazhang> Julito35, #ubuntu-ar
[02:04] <jonrafkind> its confusing because there are like 4 indiciator applet things :p
[02:04] <Julito35> thnaks
[02:04] <arooni-mobile> hey folks doing: LilArooni ~: sudo cat "65" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl  => bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl: Permission denied
[02:04] <ChogyDan> jonrafkind: yeah, i think it is confusing too  :)
[02:04] <botcity> twiggy_, i think its part of the new unity! i thought it was the launcher and menus app. if you push to the left it pops up
[02:05] <arooni-mobile> how do i change the ttl on ubuntu? doing bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl: Permission denied => Permission denied
[02:05] <sakuramboo> ive installed a few games, but they do not show up in the games menu in unity, is there a way to manually add them?
[02:05] <jonrafkind> ill go with the shutdown applet, thanks Juest !
[02:05] <honsson> IM PRETTY SURE UBUNTU IS THE BIGGEST SHIT EVER
[02:05] <arooni-mobile> sorry for repeaqt
[02:05] <honsson> JUST SAYING
[02:05] <FloodBot3> honsson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <honsson> FUCK
[02:05] <honsson> FUCK
[02:05] <jonrafkind> rofl
[02:05] <Jordan_U> How can I make Google Chrome the default browser that is launched when clicking links in gnome-terminal (e.g. for irssi)?
[02:05] <kippers> does anybody know how i can fix my wireless probs?
[02:05] <ivancp> how to upgrade to gnome3?
[02:05] <jonrafkind> kippers, install wicd. network manager is garbage
[02:05] <l00pb4ck> i get errors when i try to do any updates am i the only one?
[02:05] <greenlantern> can't install ubuntu 11.04 with unetbootin, after getting the file in pendrive with unetbooting , rebooting with usb first priority boot device, it's not booting ubuntu-11.04 , i get a message "Verifiying pool data" , and it's waiting for long time , can anyone point me where is the mistake ?
[02:05] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | ivancp
[02:05] <kippers> wicd? how do i install it?
[02:05] <jonrafkind> sudo apt-get install wicd
[02:06] <ahmed_> How to revert back to unity after identifying my driver? the ubuntu choice in the login always logging to gnome ?!!
[02:06] <Juest> Jordan_U: just set it as default, have sense-browser command in preferred apps?
[02:06] <Otoris> Jordan_U Go to your power off button and at the bottom of that menu click system settings -> preferred applications
[02:06] <Jordan_U> greenlantern: Have you ever been able to boot from USB on this machine?
[02:06] <kippers> ok, installing wicd now )
[02:06] <Juest> Jordan_U: and also, set the browser itself as default
[02:06] <greenlantern> Jordan_U: yes
[02:06] <jonrafkind> and then you can uninstall network manager: sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[02:07] <jonrafkind> because having both installed at the same time will break stuff
[02:07] <Jordan_U> Otoris: Thanks. That worked.
[02:07] <morelli> botcity: any idea why i had this tv-like static?
[02:07] <kippers> ok, will do ) i do really like ubuntu on my netbook, although it is a bit ugly :P but, as the guy who recomended itsaid, it runs like hot shit off a stick )
[02:07] <ahmed_> Guys after my VGA driver identification I can't login to unity, always logging to classic gnome while I choose "ubuntu" from login window, ANy suggestions ?!
[02:08] <jerriy> carl-m: ···> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601539/
[02:08] <bazhang> kippers, no cursing
[02:08] <sakuramboo> also, every time i launch gnome-terminal, it tells me that byobu-launcher isnt installed, why is it looking for byobu and how do i get it to stop saying that?
[02:08] <carl-m> jerriy: but still the same error, error resolving host myhost
[02:08] <twiggy_> botcity: that only has 2 options neither of which stop it from hiding
[02:08] <Jordan_U> greenlantern: What were you able to boot successfully from USB?
[02:08] <greenlantern> Jordan_U: yes, 1 year ago
[02:09] <botcity> morelli, is your ati driver correctly installed ?
[02:09] <kippers> ok, after installing wicdand removing network manager, do i need to restart?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> greenlantern: What (as in what OS, installed to the USB how) were you able to boot successfully from USB?
[02:09] <jerriy> carl-m what should it be then?
[02:09] <carl-m> jerriy: is that right - that you still have the error?
[02:09] <IdleOne> kippers: probably, yes.
[02:09] <morelli> botcity: what do you mean 'correctly' it works now and worked before unity
[02:09] <carl-m> after that change, I'm not sure what's up
[02:10] <kjxl9> hello
[02:10] <rgr> sakuramboo: check you're really launching gnome-terminal and if so then check your bashrc that it isnt attaching.
[02:10] <carl-m> you haven't edited /etc/sudoers or anything like that, right?
[02:10] <botcity> twiggy_, there maybe a an option in ccsm i dont know.
[02:10] <kippers> thanks for your help, trying it all now )
[02:10] <kjxl9> im following a tutorial at:http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html
[02:10] <arooni-mobile> how do i change the ttl on ubuntu? doing bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl: Permission denied => Permission denied
[02:11] <greenlantern> Jordan_U: i installed ubuntu 9.04 with unetbootin.exe
[02:11] <morelli> botcity: i got simmilar tv-like static only on boot screan never when the desktop loaded fully
[02:11] <jerriy> carl-m: yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/601544/
[02:11] <carl-m> jerriy: but does it pop up a terminal?
[02:11] <botcity> morelli, so it works fine with classiic not with unity?
[02:11] <Rehan> stupid dropbox keeps not auto-starting at boot
[02:11] <sakuramboo> rgr: im launching `gnome-terminal` from a terminal, the terminal opens fine, but reports that error, i can still use it, though. and there are no references to byobu in both $HOME/.bashrc and /etc/bash.bashrc
[02:12] <greenlantern> rebooting
[02:12] <jerriy> What do you mean "pop up a terminal" I can "open" the file
[02:12] <morelli> botcity: yes, but why? you know i wanted to try this 'unity' and stuff
[02:12] <jerriy> if it wasn't a sudo file
[02:12] <carl-m> I mean, does it run gnome-terminal, or prompt for a password, or just do nothing?
[02:12] <kippers> ok installing wicd hasn't worked at all - before, i could see wireless networks, even if i couldn't connect, but now t sees nothing
[02:13] <morelli> botcity: but it does not work for me, and i don't know why
[02:13] <Julito35> I have problems with AVIDEMUX, with mp4 720p videos, anyone can help me?
[02:13] <kjxl9> when i type in a certain command, this comes up "unable to retrieve local bd_addr from 'hcitool dev' (line break) please enable bluetooth or speccify and address manaly"
[02:13] <harovali> hi, how can I tell ubuntu bot to update the clock over the network time protocol ? (because I'd like to set the time manually for a while)
[02:14] <jerriy> it does nothing (after it shows the warning or whatever (and if it is for example synaptic or auto update then i tick in the sudo password but then it doesn't even say "sorry" like in terminal
[02:14] <harovali> i mean not to update , not bot
[02:14] <carl-m> and 'sudo whoami' still says it can't resolve the host?
[02:15] <KNUBBIG> is it possible to write a message in pidgin via the terminal? Would be nice for a drop down terminal while being on another workspace
[02:15] <kippers> any ideas on how i can get my wifi working now? wicd has complete;y murdered what little conectivity i had
[02:15] <the67pc>  /msg NickServ identify leirbag
[02:15] <the67pc> voltei
[02:15] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: if i remember correctly, there is a terminal version of pidgin available
[02:15] <jerriy> carl-m: it now says "Sorry, try again." but hat's cuz I rebooted (if i tried the third time it will again say can't resolve the host
[02:15] <the67pc>  /msg NickServ identify <password>.
[02:15] <the67pc> aff
[02:15] <carl-m> jerriy: on my system, if I remove the line from /etc/hosts, I get the error message, but it also runs the command for me
[02:15] <kjxl9> i need some help
[02:15] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: cool, thanks I'll see if I find something
[02:15] <kjxl9> when i type in a certain command, this comes up "unable to retrieve local bd_addr from 'hcitool dev' (line break) please enable bluetooth or speccify and address manaly"
[02:16] <dxdemetriou> from "indicator applet" the "vpn" where it stores the "private key password"? It doesn't accept to be empty.
[02:16] <kippers> any ideas on how i can get my wifi working now? wicd has complete;y murdered what little conectivity i had
[02:16] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: i used it before, some time last year, it was actually pretty cool. very good use of the ncurses library
[02:16] <carl-m> jerriy: like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601545/
[02:17] <kippers> any ideas, anybody?
[02:17] <kippers> any ideas on how i can get my wifi working now? wicd has complete;y murdered what little conectivity i had
[02:17] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: I found a program called finch, did you use that?
[02:17] <KNUBBIG> !info finch
[02:17] <kjxl9>  im following a tutorial here: http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html. when i type in "sudo ./sixpair, this comes up "unable to retrieve local bd_addr from 'hcitool dev' (line break) please enable bluetooth or speccify and address manaly"
[02:17] <sakuramboo> yes, thats it
[02:17] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: thanks a lot :)
[02:17] <sakuramboo> no problem :) enjoy it, its very nice
[02:18] <botcity> morelli, you may be able to try it but you will have to disable your graphics card. i think that is what is causing the static you could try a live disk. may work better that way possibly!
[02:18] <kippers> can anyone tell me at least where to get some info? i'll past my q again:
[02:18] <kippers> any ideas on how i can get my wifi working now? wicd has complete;y murdered what little conectivity i had
[02:19] <jerriy> carl-m: no I don't get any of that. It's just waiting for the sudo command
[02:19] <sakuramboo> kippers: does wireless work if you use the terminal?
[02:19] <kjxl9>  im following a tutorial here: http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html. when i type in "sudo ./sixpair, this comes up "unable to retrieve local bd_addr from 'hcitool dev' (line break) please enable bluetooth or speccify and address manaly"
[02:19] <ChogyDan> kippers: what card?
[02:19] <carl-m> what do you mean waiting?
[02:19] <needlez> other thing is that i want the auto window resizing feature that 11.04 offers just not sure if anyother distro has that ability
[02:19] <morelli> botcity: thanks for help :)
[02:19] <kippers> no wi-fi at all now
[02:19] <pksadiq> kjxl9: have you enabled your bluetooth?
[02:19] <kippers> dunno what card, or how to find out on linux, im using a samsung n150
[02:19] <kjxl9> yes
[02:19] <KNUBBIG> wow except that it doesn't seem to recognize my skype it's pretty awesome :)
[02:20] <silwal> Please start Google Chrome as a normal user. If you have previously run Google Chrome as root, you will need to change the ownership of your profile directory.wat shud i do?
[02:20] <sakuramboo> kippers: open a terminal, does the card show up when you type `lspci`?
[02:20] <l00pb4ck> kjxl9: i had to restart the bluetooth service to be able to use it
[02:20] <pksadiq> kjxl9: what does sudo hcitool scan          gives ?
[02:20] <kippers> it worked a little until i installed wicd, but wouldonly connect on about 1/4 of boots
[02:20] <jerriy> it means it asks me to type the password (try again... and again...
[02:20] <l00pb4ck> kjxl9: sudo service bluetooth restart
[02:21] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: glad you like it, it saved me a few times in the past when i couldnt forward X11 over ssh ;)
[02:21] <kippers> yeah, RTL8129e is the model, i think
[02:21] <kippers> realtek
[02:21] <pazsion> sup
[02:21] <kjxl9> it sais no suck device
[02:21] <kjxl9> and i have my controller plugged in
[02:21] <l00pb4ck> lol
[02:21] <carl-m> jerriy: that sounds like you are typing the wrong password?
[02:21] <sakuramboo> kippers: is the device listed in `iwconfig`?
[02:21] <carl-m> do you have auto login, or do you type the password to log in?
[02:21] <jerriy> Where do I get it right?
[02:21] <katsrc> every time i build GIMP i get a segfault when i try to launch it , anyone know what could be causing this?
[02:21] <carl-m> by the way, it seems that both 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 work for me, so that was not the problem
[02:22] <pksadiq> kjxl9: just unplug the device and replug and so the same ./si....   as you did before
[02:22] <kippers> yeah, it is. i thought maybe it'd be a driver problem, but it's wierd, as it DID kinda work, but not very well
[02:22] <jerriy> I login with my account
[02:22] <sakuramboo> kippers: can you use `iwconfig` to set up your wireless connection?
[02:22] <silwal>  Please start Google Chrome as a normal user. If you have previously run Google Chrome as root, you will need to change the ownership of your profile directory . Can anybody help me im in bt-4 R2???
[02:22] <kippers> i've no idea how
[02:22] <kjxl9> still nothing
[02:22] <pazsion> !ot
[02:22] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: :-) I recently got to like irssi as I can start it in guake and "take it" to every workspace which is sometimes required when having only one display available :)
[02:23] <Datz> Hi, I just want to use Gnome2 and not unity. How can I remove just unity? "aptitude purge unity" ?
[02:23] <IdleOne> silwal: #backtrack-linux
[02:23] <carl-m> so you run su, and it gives that error, then you type the password, and it says 'Sorry, try again', and you try again. if you do it trhee times, what does it say?
[02:23] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: so thanks for the tip :)
[02:23] <botcity> katsrc, build gimp ?
[02:23] <pksadiq> kjxl9: do sudo service bluetooth restart         and then try sudo hcitool scan
[02:23] <kjxl9> ok
[02:23] <ny51bern> Ubuntu 11 freezes at login screen any ideas?
[02:23] <Rehan> Datz: i think you can choose to login to Ubuntu Classic for the non-Unity version
[02:23] <katsrc> botcity: compile it from source
[02:23] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: look into using screen with it, you can ssh into the machine from anywhere, run `screen -raAd` and bring your irssi connection right up without skipping a beat
[02:23] <Datz> Rehan: it is causing problems though
[02:24] <kjxl9> says no ddevices still even though it is plugged in
[02:24] <katsrc> botcity: even the PPA's cause segfault
[02:24] <crimton> 11.04 doesn't see eth0 anymore, anyone have this?
[02:24] <Datz> I guess I'll try and purge unity and see what it does
[02:24] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: oy, nice idea, thanks. Instantly going to start it on an available server :)
[02:24] <Rehan> Datz: what happens?
[02:24] <katsrc> i'm using Matt Walker's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn
[02:24] <Datz> Rehan: ok so it wants to also remove ubuntu-destop
[02:25] <senatortom> anyone well versed in C willing to take a look at some code I have that I'm having trouble debugging?
[02:25] <Datz> so that is;nt good
[02:25] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: yeah, i dedicated an old Dell laptop, slapped slackware on it and all it does is listen on port 22, i run screen and irssi on it
[02:25] <ny51bern> Ubuntu 11 freezing at login screen. any suggestions?
[02:25] <ABCZY> I need help with ubu8ntu
[02:25] <Datz> ny51bern: try safe mode
[02:25] <carl-m> ABCZY: don't we all
[02:25] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: thats how im on here right now, im ssh'ed into it from my main desktop, its great, never have to sign off :)
[02:25] <kippers> sakuramboo: sorry, i ahvent a clue how to set it up with iwconfig
[02:25] <ny51bern> Datz: how do i boot in safe mode?
[02:25] <Cale> Pulseaudio is completely broken on my machine (only shows single master greyed out volume control pegged at zero). Is there a convenient PPA or something for adding back the gnome volume control panel applet in 11.04?
[02:25] <Cale> (the one which works with alsa)
[02:25] <Datz> ny51bern: do you see a grub boot menu?
[02:25] <sakuramboo> kippers: check your pvts
[02:25] <botcity> katsrc, i see.
[02:25] <Datz> before you get to teh login?
[02:25] <KNUBBIG> sakuramboo: I got an online backup server running debian, so I'll use that. Thank you very much this is a great idea :)
[02:26] <Stameni1> hello, how do i forece file system check fsck on next reboot ?
[02:26] <kjxl9> should i try rebooting with the controller plugged in?
[02:26] <Stameni1> hello, how do i force file system check fsck on next reboot ?
[02:26] <ny51bern> Datz: yeah i get beyond there. I should press power button and go back to there?
[02:26] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: my pleasure :)
[02:26] <needlez> hey, what is the program name that allows for the resizing of the windows when dragged the right left or top??
[02:26] <Jordan_U> Stameni1: sudo touch /forcefsck
[02:26] <Datz> ny51bern: yes
[02:26] <Stameni1> Jordan_U, thank you
[02:26] <Datz> or ctl atl del
[02:26] <Jordan_U> Stameni1: You're welcome.
[02:27] <ny51bern> Datz: okay doing that now. anything to look for/do ?
[02:27] <Datz> Jordan_U: do you know if there is a way to remove unity and just keep Gnome 2 desktop?>
[02:27] <ny51bern> Datz: gave me a recovery menu
[02:27] <Datz> ny51bern: nope, just boot to safe-mode
[02:27] <Jordan_U> Datz: I do not know.
[02:27] <Datz> Jordan_U: ok thanks
[02:27] <ny51bern> Datz: lots of options in this menu.
[02:28] <Datz> ny51bern: try the latest kernels ssafe mode
[02:28] <pksadiq> kjxl9: sorry , i was away, may you can try a reboot too with the device plugged
[02:28] <Datz> ny51bern: that won't solve your problem, but hopefully you'll be able to log in
[02:28] <Rehan> Datz: can you highlight me?
[02:28] <Datz> ny51bern: I had a freeze before the login, and I was able to boot to safe mode. Now I just want ot remove unity
[02:29] <Datz> Rehan: sure
[02:29] <Rehan> Datz: thanks
[02:29] <Rehan> was just testing something Datz
[02:29] <Datz> np ;)
[02:29] <jerriy> carl-m: su: Authentication failure
[02:29] <ny51bern> Datz: don't see that option. i got: resume normal, try to make free space, repair broken packages, run in fail safe graphics mode, reboot into file system check...
[02:29] <malv> my keyboard doesnt have a windows key. Is it possible to rebind the windows key to another key?
[02:29] <Datz> ny51bern: ah, ok you have another menu, not grub
[02:30] <ny51bern> Datz:  its called the recovery menu. any ideas?
[02:30] <Datz> ny51bern: was just there myself repairing grub. but I don't know what your problem is/
[02:30] <trailoryo> how can I hotkey workspaces? or swap with for instance holding mouse1&2 + dragging?
[02:30] <nit-wit> ny51bern, that is the menu from the recovery
[02:30] <bullgard4> Cale: In Ubuntu 11.04, at login, you can select GNOME 2. There you will have the GNOME volume control applet.
[02:30] <ny51bern> I'm not sure. It just feezes right when I hit the login screen
[02:31] <Datz> ny51bern: might have to sit tight, I can't really can't help you with that.
[02:31] <botcity> is a mtrr problem fixable ?
[02:31] <ny51bern> nit-wit: any ideas?
[02:31] <ny51bern> Datz:  thanks, maybe book in 'repair broken packages' ?
[02:31] <ny51bern> boot*
[02:32] <nit-wit> ny51bern, I was trying ti find what the problem is can you tell me again
[02:32] <haroon> In my unity desktop 11.04 alt+f1,alt+f2,alt+f3..alt+f7 isn't working according to shortcuts defined it. It switch me to tty consoles
[02:32] <ny51bern> nit-wit: ubuntu11 frozen at login screen
[02:32] <ny51bern> nit-wit: boots fine, just when its time to input password, im frozen
[02:32] <eoss> how do i find what version of my graphics card
[02:33] <ny51bern> nit-wit: im on a dual boot with windows xp
[02:33] <carl-m> jerriy: try typing your password at the prompt just to make sure it appears correctly
[02:33] <KNUBBIG> brb ;-)
[02:33] <uberfrau> hey guys, I'm trying to install a gedit plugin, and since I didn't have a ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins path, I made it in terminal, but it doesn't show up in Dolphin. What can I do? (Kubuntu 10.10 user btw)
[02:33] <Datz> Rehan: I'm going to try and purge unity, and install "gnome-desktop-environment
[02:33] <Datz> Rehan: I'll let you know how it goes :P
[02:33] <KNUBBIG> yey it works
[02:33] <Juest> datz: ubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <carl-m> jerriy: try 'su jerriy' ( or whtevery your username is) and see if that will accept your password
[02:33] <Juest> or are you in 11.04?
[02:34] <KNUBBIG> is there an option to execute a command upon login via ssh?
[02:34] <nit-wit> ny51bern, have you tried alow graphics boot in
[02:34] <Datz> Juest: hum?
[02:34] <ny51bern> nit-wit: hvnt tried anything. im kinda an idiot with ubuntu.
[02:34] <Datz> I gyess I don't need to purge unity
[02:34] <ny51bern> nit-wit: how should i do that?
[02:34] <Datz> just remove
[02:34] <pksadiq> uberfrau: the paths that start with . (a period) is hidden , may be there is an option in the 'view' menu to view hidden,
[02:34] <nit-wit> ny51bern, have you installed graphics drivers in the past?
[02:35] <ny51bern> nit-wit: don't think so.
[02:35] <aussa> I'm trying to build some program, while the "make" command an error ocurrs, I asked for help at the program home page, and they told me to: "take the command where it tries to compile OSGXmltokenizer.cpp and replace -c with -E". I don't know how to do that, where should I look? what do I do?
[02:35] <haroon>  In my unity desktop 11.04 alt+f1,alt+f2,alt+f3..alt+f7 isn't working according to shortcuts defined it. It switch me to tty consoles
[02:35] <Jordan_U_> aussa: What are you trying to install?
[02:35] <Datz> Although it doesn't want to let me remove unity without removing ubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <Datz> damn..
[02:35] <pksadiq> haroon: alt+ctrl +...
[02:35] <aussa> OpenSG
[02:35] <Jordan_U_> !ubuntu-desktop | Datz
[02:35] <escott> aussa, in the makefile look for the OSGXmltokenizer target, look up until you see a line with gcc -c and try to change that
[02:35] <KM0201> Datz: i believe thats just a meta package.. you'll see a lot of packages remove that
[02:36] <jerriy> carl-m: su username   >> Passworld: >>     su: Authentication failure
[02:36] <Datz> KM0201: is there a minimal gnome2 desktop?
[02:36] <Datz> package
[02:36] <botcity> KNUBBIG, .bashrc file i think , on the computer your sshing into.
[02:36] <Rehan> is there anyway I can make my laptop's touchpad not take any input while i'm typing? getting so frustrated with accidentally palming the touchpad and it messing me up
[02:36] <nit-wit> ny51bern, at the grub menu hit e then use the keyboard arrows to navigate ti the splash at the end of the kernel line and replace it with nomodeset the crtlx to boot to a command line boot in then hit startx
[02:36] <carl-m> jerriy: that is very odd; you should be able to su to yourself
[02:36] <KNUBBIG> botcity: okay, thanks, will try that
[02:36] <Datz> KM0201: nevermind, I'll search
[02:36] <KM0201> Datz: if you're using 11.04, it should be installed by default, log out, at sign on screen, clcik your username then click "Sessions" and set it to Gnome classic
[02:36] <sidge> hello all, my google-fu has failed me...how do i make dvd-roms automaont to a set mount point like they used ie /media/cdrom0
[02:36] <Cale> bullgard4: I've already selected "Ubuntu Classic" and gotten the standard panel. The problem is that the only provided volume control is the pulseaudio one built into the indicator applet
[02:36] <[4-tea-2]> Rehan: duct tape?
[02:36] <carl-m> you actually type your password to log into the computer, it does not log you in automatically - is that right?
[02:37] <pksadiq> jerriy: did you try sudo -i ?
[02:37] <Datz> KM0201: yea, but I want it gone :P
[02:37] <uberfrau> pksadiq, I don't think I created the directory with a . in it, and when I enabled 'show hidden files' it didn't pop up. Maybe I created the directory incorrectly in Konsole? There is documentation by the plugin writer if that would help? ;o
[02:37] <Rehan> [4-tea-2]: ha ha, any real solution that you know of?
[02:37] <KM0201> you want what gone? unity?.. so uninstall it.. thats no tgonna effect gnome
[02:37] <Datz> KM0201: there is freezing, and I have to boot to safe mode
[02:37] <Datz> KM0201: there is some driver issue
[02:37] <sakuramboo> ive installed a few games, but they do not show up in the games menu in unity, is there a way to manually add them?
[02:37] <bullgard4> Cale: Just a second.
[02:37] <[4-tea-2]> Rehan: nope, sorry. If there was, it would probably be in the Accessibility area.
[02:37] <haroon>  In my unity desktop 11.04 alt+f1,alt+f2,alt+f3..alt+f7 isn't working according to shortcuts defined it. It switches me to tty consoles . for example alt+f2 should start unity lense for run command but It isn't working
[02:37] <pksadiq> uberfrau: the .local is hidden, it is in your home directory
[02:37] <Datz> KM0201: I'm not going to be able to run unity here
[02:38] <jerriy> carl-m: sudo -i  >>> [sudo] password for mypc: >>> Sorry, try again.
[02:38] <KM0201> Datz: ok.. so don't run it?
[02:38] <uberfrau> pksadiq, what? o.O
[02:38] <pksadiq> haroon: try ALT+CTRL+F1....F7
[02:38] <Datz> KM0201: so I'm going to remove it
[02:38] <nit-wit> haroon, I think you have to assign the keys but alt f2 is a system setup
[02:38] <KM0201> Datz: ok, if thats what you want to do.
[02:38] <Datz> tis
[02:38] <Cale> bullgard4: For the last few versions of ubuntu, I've been forced to recompile the gnome-media package without the pulseaudio stuff in it.
[02:38] <KM0201> Datz: the other option is to install one of the "lighter" desktops.. depending on the specs of your machine.. xfce or lxde
[02:38] <ny51bern> nit-wit: splash at end of kernel line?
[02:39] <twiggy_> can someone tell me why fatrat won't show up in the top-right corner of my screen now? ktorrent does, transmission does, but fatrat won't do it.
[02:39] <nit-wit> ny51bern, the word splash
[02:39] <Datz> KM0201: well it's a VM, so no unity, but gnome2 without unity works fine
[02:39] <Jordan_U> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 (upgraded) with the proprietary nvidia driver and compiz and other 3D apps are incredibly slow (compiz is almost unusable).
[02:39] <Datz> I guess I could probably run unity but ..eh
[02:39] <Cale> bullgard4: But that's being a bit temperamental now, and I'm wondering if there isn't a better way to go about removing pulseaudio and setting things up nicely wrt. panel applets for volume control and mixers etc.
[02:39] <KM0201> Datz: ok, well thaen thats your answer
[02:39] <haroon> nit-wit, how can I defilsne it in system setup please little detai
[02:39] <luigi_panache> Hi, I'm looking for some help cross-compiling for a mips system. Is this a good channel to ask, or is  elsewhere better?
[02:40] <ny51bern> nit-wit: replace the word splash with "nomodeset" ?
[02:40] <pksadiq> haroon: its already defined . just do as above I said to get ttys
[02:40] <Cale> (I'm thinking that surely removing pulseaudio must be common enough a request that other people have encoded their solutions in the form of a package or something :)
[02:40] <Datz> luigi_panache: this channel is going to be a bit busy as 11.04 was just released, might ask somewhere quieter
[02:40] <sidge> jordan, have you turned off desktop effects under appearance?
[02:40] <nit-wit> ny51bern, that is the ticket.:)
[02:40] <KNUBBIG> hm when I ssh into the machine, .bashrc somehow doesn't get executed, only when I manually invoke bash, although the shell I'm using on login is bash. Any ideas?
[02:40] <bullgard4> Cale: On my Natty system the DEB program package »gnome-media« is installed also.
[02:40] <pksadiq> haroon: it cant be changed
[02:40] <carl-m> jerriy: for some reason it does not seem to be accepting your password. I have no idea why. you could try resetting it (in recovery mode) and then try sudo again
[02:40] <ny51bern> nit-wit: okay this stuff is dangerous no?
[02:40] <luigi_panache> Datz: I'm realllly new to irc. How do I search channels on here?
[02:40] <haroon> pksadiq ,I did same happens
[02:41] <ny51bern> nit-wit:  im a little scared :)
[02:41] <nit-wit> haroon, I haven't spent anytime doing key assignments I know no more then you.
[02:41] <escott> KNUBBIG, you have to have a login shell i think it is ssh -i
[02:41] <pksadiq> haroon: Its default to every linux
[02:41] <haroon> yes
[02:41] <Cale> bullgard4: If you right click a blank space on your panel and choose "Add to Panel...", do you see Volume Control among the listed applets?
[02:41] <KNUBBIG> escott: sorry, didn't understand that?
[02:41] <nit-wit> ny51bern, ah the change your doing is not permanent a per session
[02:41] <ny51bern> okay
[02:41] <bitium> hola
[02:41] <carl-m> KNUBBIG: it runs mine
[02:41] <sakuramboo> KNUBBIG: check permissions? should be -rw-r--r--
[02:41] <Datz> luigi_panache: there is a special way on larger networks, /list is the usual way. Go as in #help , I forgot
[02:41] <ny51bern> nit-wit: okay. changin it now what do i do with ctrl x?
[02:41] <carl-m> try putting 'echo bashrc' at the top and ssh again
[02:41] <Cale> Or do you only have the indicator applet?
[02:42] <Pascalcmoi> Hi, I updated to ubuntu 11.04 and now the computer do not boot (always return to grub even the recovery mode) what cause that
[02:42] <escott> KNUBBIG, if you just ssh john@host "command x" then command x is run but not as a login shell. ie profile, bashrc, etc are ignored
[02:42] <luigi_panache> Datz: thanks
[02:42] <carl-m> KNUBBIG: are you running a shell over ssh, or running some other program?
[02:42] <Datz>  luigi_panache no problem
[02:42] <haroon> ctrl+alt+f1 is default but why it took me on tty console when I press atl+f1
[02:42] <KNUBBIG> carl-m: over ssh
[02:42] <carl-m> KNUBBIG: I mean are you running some other program over ssh
[02:42] <nit-wit> ny51bern, crtl-x is the command to boot from there to a command to login then run startx to start the desktop
[02:42] <carl-m> rather than just 'ssh hostname'
[02:42] <KNUBBIG> escott:ah oky, thanks, will look into that
[02:42] <KNUBBIG> carl-m: no just ssh hostname -l login
[02:42] <Jordan_U> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 (upgraded) with the proprietary nvidia driver and compiz and other 3D apps are incredibly slow (compiz is almost unusable). Sometimes I get full speeds and after a few minutes of playing Armagetron Advanced my FPS will instantly drop to where it looks like a slideshow. Any ideas for troubleshooting this?
[02:43] <jerriy> carl-m: For what reason? That's the question. I have already changed the password in the GUI lemme see what happenes
[02:43] <Cale> Pascalcmoi: I had to install linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae
[02:43] <ny51bern> nit-wit:  so im pressing ctrlx on my keyboard? whats startx?
[02:43] <sidge> this is chaos, i need a better chat client, back in a bit
[02:43] <bullgard4> Cale: No.
[02:43] <leoechevarria> hey guys, i've got a little question: i've just installed 11.04, logged into ubuntu-classic by default, installed nvidia-current (i'm using geforce 6150 on a desktop), rebooted, but it's still running ubuntu-classic by default, even if i select just ubuntu from gdm login screen, any idea? i wanna try out unity!
[02:43] <jerriy> How do I change user password from the command line?
[02:43] <carl-m> jerriy: I'm sorry, but I don't know
[02:44] <nit-wit> ny51bern, so crtl-x boots from your edit to a command line. there you boot in, the startx starts the desktop from there.
[02:44] <carl-m> from the command line you use the command 'passwd'
[02:44] <sakuramboo> jerriy: `sudo passwd`
[02:44] <Pascalcmoi> Hi, I updated to ubuntu 11.04 and now the computer do not boot (always return to grub even the recovery mode) what cause that
[02:44] <carl-m> but it will ask for your old passwd first
[02:44] <leoechevarria> jerriy: do 'sudo passwd user'
[02:44] <belinrahs> is it possible to change the indicator in the top right of the screen from my username to my full name?
[02:44] <Cale> Pascalcmoi: I don't know how I managed to get to a terminal, I basically mashed F1, Esc, Delete a bunch while it was starting up, and then hit control-alt-F1 :P
[02:44] <carl-m> sakuramboo: he already can't run sudo
[02:44] <sakuramboo> gotcha
[02:44] <Cale> Pascalcmoi: and then installed the linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic-pae package, and that fixed it
[02:44] <ny51bern> nit-wit: how do i press start x?
[02:44] <Cale> Pascalcmoi: Do you have an nvidia card?
[02:44] <carl-m> jerriy: you are typing your password, not the root password, right?
[02:44] <Pascalcmoi> yes
[02:45] <nit-wit> ny51bern, you just type it then het enter
[02:45] <dustin_> leoechevarria, try logging out and when at login screen usually at the bottom you can select your desktop environment after clicking your name
[02:45] <Cale> Pascalcmoi: yeah, I think you're seeing the same problem I was -- does it just get stuck on the stupid splash screen with 5 red dots?
[02:45] <leoechevarria> dustin_: isn't the 'ubuntu' session the unity one?
[02:45] <nit-wit> ny51bern, did you login
[02:45] <dustin_> leoechevarria, since 9.10 mine autologins to last session
[02:45] <jerriy> sakuramboo: leoechevarria: forget the "sudo" part (my problem is namely that I can't sodo nothing
[02:45] <Toph> carandraug,,, i'm having the same problems as Pascalcmoi ,, i have a Radeon card,, any ideas?
[02:45] <ny51bern> nit-wit: no, pressed ctrlx and my comp is blank purple..
[02:45] <leoechevarria> jerriy: sorry for that, i just caught up in the middle of the conversation
[02:45] <Pascalcmoi> Cale no nothing
[02:46] <bullgard4> Cale: What is the reason that you have been forced to recompile the gnome-media package without the pulsaudio stuff in it?
[02:46] <dustin_> leoechevarria, I would think so but I have a kustom Gnome desktop so I havent used unity at all
[02:46] <nit-wit> ny51bern, okay it is hit the crtl key hold it down and tap the x
[02:46] <uberfrau> okay, i figured out wtf i did wrong
[02:46] <belinrahs> Can I change where it says my username (belinrahs) to my full name on the top right corner of the regular GNOME desktop?
[02:46] <Rehan2> test
[02:46] <shcherbak> jerriy: Is it yuor system? Means can you access grub?
[02:46] <uberfrau> how do i find ~/.local/share in Dolphin?
[02:46] <uberfrau> GUI makes it easier >_>
[02:47] <Juest> belinrahs: yes you can, just add another applet
[02:47] <ny51bern> nit-wit: still hanging purple.
[02:47] <shcherbak> !test > Rehan2
[02:47] <dustin_> uberfrau, under view you should have "show hidden files"
[02:47] <Cale> bullgard4: Because pulseaudio is basically completely broken on my hardware for whatever reason. It gives me only a single master volume control (no separate controls for the dozen or so things my hardware supports), and pegs my headphone volume to 0. In the latest Ubuntu, the master volume control is even greyed out.
[02:47] <jerriy> Yes scherbak: I'm the ultimate admin/boss of the pc. Btw I have found out that my root also requires password (don't you guys ask my how on earth this happened) i'll just have to do all that bin bash thing and get round this
[02:47] <uberfrau> dustin_ i do :/
[02:47] <belinrahs> Juest: if you don't mind my asking, what applet, and how is it added? synaptic?
[02:47] <Toph> uberfrau,,, View> show hidden files
[02:48] <dustin_> uberfrau, you selected it?
[02:48] <leoechevarria> dustin_: i keep selecting the session 'ubunt' but still it runs gnome 2.3.x
[02:48] <shcherbak> jerriy: can you post output of: groups <your username>
[02:48] <uberfrau> ja
[02:48] <pksadiq> uberfrau:  in terminal you may also do cd to that path and then do dolphin ./      or nautilus ./ to open that directory
[02:48] <leoechevarria> the last option says something about "user defined session", but i really don't know how to set that up
[02:48] <nit-wit> ny51bern, when you do the boot this way all you should see is text until the command line did you remove the word splash insert nomodeset leaving the space in front and after then hold down the crtl key then tap x
[02:48] <KM0201> leoechevarria: does your machine support 3D?
[02:48] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[02:48] <felipeh> hello
[02:49] <juanqui> #ubuntu -ar
[02:49] <shcherbak> felipeh: Hey
[02:49] <ny51bern> nit-wit: i did as u asked...can we do undo this? not sure what to do now =.=
[02:49] <carl-m> shcherbak: he can't even su to himself, so the problem is deeper than that
[02:49] <uberfrau> pksadiq, i'll try that, and then i can go back to see why i can't see it in Dolphin right now =)
[02:49] <juanqui> #ubuntu-ar
[02:49] <leoechevarria> KM0201: i've just installed nvidia-current, and running glxgears works fine
[02:49] <KNUBBIG> Hm it still runs the command only when I manually invoke bash
[02:49] <ny51bern> nit-wit:  still stuck on this purple..should i hold down power button?
[02:49] <KM0201> leoechevarria: dunno, that doesn't make sense
[02:49] <felipeh> español ingles?
[02:49] <escott> leoechevarria, glxgears is very deceptive always look at glxinfo
[02:49] <nit-wit> ny51bern, it sounded to me that you tried to hit crtlx all at the same time they are run the way I described
[02:49] <KNUBBIG> !es | felipeh
[02:50] <shcherbak> jerriy: Ok, what users did you created on your system, and is it Ubuntu?
[02:50] <felipeh> no problem hahhahaha
[02:50] <ny51bern> nit-wit: no, i rly didnt... what should i do now?
[02:50] <carandraug> Toph, I think that message was directed to Cale, not me
[02:50] <leoechevarria> dammit, if anybody talked to me, please repeat it because i closed irc unintentionally
[02:50] <felipeh> ubottu
[02:50] <Jordan_U> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 (upgraded) with the proprietary nvidia driver and compiz and other 3D apps are incredibly slow (compiz is almost unusable). Sometimes I get full speeds and after a few minutes of playing Armagetron Advanced my FPS will instantly drop to where it looks like a slideshow. Any ideas for troubleshooting this?
[02:50] <Toph> carandraug,,, true,,, sorry
[02:50] <uberfrau> oh it was in Home
[02:50] <Pascalcmoi> Toph: do you run synergy?
[02:50] <nit-wit> ny51bern, hold down crtl-alt-prtsc the slosly typr reisub
[02:50] <felipeh> where are you from ?
[02:50] <dustin_> leoechevarria, I am looking at it on http://scottlinux.com/2011/03/05/ubuntu-11-04-change-from-unity-to-classic-gnome/ link there
[02:51] <belinrahs> can I change the title of the Me Menu to my full name? It's currently my username
[02:51] <escott> leoechevarria, run glxinfo (mesa can easily handle glxgears these days)
[02:51] <uberfrau> oops, sorry to whoever said that, i misunderstood what you meant by it, i'm a newbie ;d
[02:51] <jerriy> shcherbak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601550/
[02:51] <uberfrau> was in home o.O
[02:51] <Juest> felipeh: #ubuntu-es
[02:51] <ny51bern> nit-wit: held those buttons, something suppoed to popup?
[02:51] <Rehan> belinrahs: yes you can get ubuntu-tweaks
[02:51] <carandraug> Toph, no problem. Just wanted to want you since you probably want to say it again with the proper nickname prefixing it
[02:51] <Rehan> belinrahs: it will let you change it to your display name rather than username
[02:51] <nit-wit> ny51bern, that is a soft reboot if it does not work just power off it is linux that is not a big deal.
[02:51] <leoechevarria> escott: what's the line i got to usually grep in glxinfo to see if i got acceleration?
[02:51] <leoechevarria> it puts out a lot of info :P
[02:51] <belinrahs> Rehan: default repositories?
[02:52] <leoechevarria> oh there i go
[02:52] <Toph> Pascalcmoi,,, Pascalcmoi ,, no
[02:52] <bullgard4> Cale: At the outset you asked: "Is there a convenient PPA or something for adding back the gnome volume control panel applet in 11.04?" My answer now is: You need to fix your PulseAudio first from the ground on. And only after having done so ask for "adding back the gnome volume control applet".
[02:52] <Rehan> belinrahs: no i dont think so...just google ubuntu-tweak and download the deb
[02:52] <leoechevarria> leo@orleans:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[02:52] <leoechevarria> direct rendering: Yes
[02:52] <belinrahs> Rehan: ok thanks
[02:52] <nit-wit> ny51bern, no hold down the 3 keys the reisub about a sec between each one and it may do a soft reboot
[02:52] <ChogyDan> Jordan_U: what is your cooling like, have you checked the temps?
[02:52] <shcherbak> jerriy: and output of (paste here): whoami
[02:52] <escott> leoechevarria, the vendor and render version strings
[02:53] <Jordan_U> ChogyDan: Probably bad with all of the dust currently in it :) I'll check that out.
[02:53] <leoechevarria> escott: render YES, vendor NVIDIA
[02:53] <nit-wit> ny51bern, is this a fresh install or a upgrade and are there any other OS's on the computer
[02:53] <escott> mine say OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Mobile GEM 20100330 DEVELOPMENT yours should say something about NVIDIA
[02:53] <jerriy>  shcherbak: my username
[02:53] <scx> hello
[02:53] <ny51bern> nit-wit: i got windows xp. nah i boot into ubunt11 yesterday fine
[02:53] <Cale> bullgard4: I'm fairly convinced that will require my contributing code to the PA project, which seems excessive in comparison with just disabling it and using the features that ALSA already provides, which I know are sufficient for me :)
[02:53] <ny51bern> nit-wit: updated yesterday
[02:53] <carl-m> jerriy: just one more time, try: su USERNAME -c whoami
[02:53] <carl-m> replacing USERNAME with your username
[02:53] <ChogyDan> Jordan_U: I heard there is some sort of kernel regression causing increased temps/power usage
[02:53] <carl-m> it will ask for a password
[02:54] <carl-m> if it works, you will see it print your username again
[02:54] <ny51bern> nit-wit: can i just hold power button, cuz i think itrs frozen... or will that screww up everything
[02:54] <nit-wit> yeah
[02:54] <scx> i have untypical problem
[02:54] <scx> http://wstaw.org/h/44fa8a854d0/linki/
[02:54] <MustardCU1> Is it possible to run an error check after login?
[02:54] <scx> ^^ who is it?
[02:54] <nit-wit> ny51bern, power button is fine
[02:54] <ny51bern> nit-wit: yeah to which part :) ?
[02:54] <ny51bern> nit-wit: haha ok
[02:54] <shcherbak> jerriy: ok, try to just: sudo cat /etc/hostname > /etc/hostname_check
[02:54] <ny51bern> nit-wit: should i trty to boot again?
[02:54] <nit-wit> ny51bern, are you a ubuntu forums member
[02:55] <ChogyDan> Jordan_U: wait, nm, that was for at idle
[02:55] <haroon> one more problem. UbuntuOne isn't working. It said An internet account is requried but I am already on internet
[02:55] <ny51bern> nit-wit: nope..
[02:55] <ny51bern> nit-wit: should i be?
[02:55] <Juest> why most process are sleeping?
[02:55] <jerriy> Yer on to something shcherbak: bash: /etc/hostname_check: Permission denied
[02:55] <leoechevarria> escott: dustin_ any idea :\? it seems i got 3d acceleration, and choosing the right session
[02:56] <sidge> Juest thats normal, those processes have nothing to do
[02:56] <belinrahs> Rehan: ubuntu-
[02:56] <belinrahs> \
[02:56] <BiosElement> Juest: They're waiting for when they're needed. If they're not running, they wouldn't know when they're needed.
[02:56] <nit-wit> ny51bern, I know the IRC seems more efficient but at times it isn't always. I would a join there and post at least to have a few irons in the fire beyond this I am not sure where to go.
[02:56] <belinrahs> Rehan: ubuntu-tweak worked perfectly thank you
[02:56] <ny51bern> nit-wit: okay thanks. i appreciate you help
[02:56] <Rehan> belinrahs: awesome. i don't know much about ubuntu but thats one thing i've learned
[02:56] <jerriy> carl-m su username -c whoami >>> su: Authentication failure
[02:56] <bullgard4> Cale: I believe that your conviction is wrong. You do not need the PPA in order to re-build your (ALSA) sound system including PulseAudio.
[02:56] <Dangr_> Hey there - I upgraded to 11.04 and have dual monitors - however I can't move a window from one monitor to another
[02:56] <nit-wit> no prblem
[02:56] <dustin_> leoechevarria, well I am going to start the upgrade now and I will be albe to tell you for sure soon
[02:57] <Dangr_> When I drag the window to the side to move to another monitor it resizes to half the screen size - Windows 7 style
[02:57] <belinrahs> Rehan: you had me fooled ;)
[02:57] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I've got a quick unity question for all you peeps that just recently upgraded to 11.04... How to add an application that I've unpacked (e.g. /home/apps/eclipse) outside of the debian package mgr?
[02:57] <MustardCU1> @Dangr Gnome, Unity, or something else?
[02:57] <Datz> ny51bern: were you having the freezing problem earlier?
[02:57] <Cale> bullgard4: I was really asking if there's a PPA of packages suited for people not wanting to run pulseaudio
[02:57] <dustin_> leoechevarria, or you may hear me cussing at my computer from anyplace in the world..... ;)
[02:57] <Dangr_> Unity - sorry should have mentioned that
[02:57] <fakewaffle> hi
[02:57] <shcherbak> jerriy: No aksing for password? Hm, well, you said that root have password on your system, how?
[02:57] <Cale> Or any external package repo, really.
[02:57] <ny51bern> Datz: still am
[02:57] <SeanInSeattle>  Correction:   How to add an application that I've unpacked (e.g. /home/apps/eclipse) outside of the debian package mgr to the unity launch panel?
[02:57] <haroon> ne more problem. UbuntuOne isn't working. It said An internet account is requried but I am already on internet
[02:57] <Dangr_> MustardCU1, Unity - sorry should have mentioned that
[02:58] <escott> leoechevarria, i didnt catch all that was happening. unity 3d won't come up?
[02:58] <leoechevarria> dustin_: don't take such a work if it's not necessary
[02:58] <MustardCU1> it's okay
[02:58] <leoechevarria> escott: right
[02:58] <Datz> ny51bern: did you try the failsafe graphics mode on the recovery menu?
[02:58] <bazhang> haroon, ask in #ubuntuone
[02:58] <bullgard4> Cale: Ah! I see. I do not know if such a PPA exists. Sorry.
[02:58] <MustardCU1> @dangr_ i don't use Unity though, sorry
[02:58] <ChogyDan> haroon: do you have an ubuntuone account?  have you plugged in the details?
[02:58] <sidge> I have my chat working better now.  how do i get whatever part of ubuntu that automounts to put the mountpoint where i want it?
[02:58] <escott> SeanInSeattle, if you start it you may be able to pin the icon to the panel
[02:58] <gartral> Is SVN on Natty hosed?
[02:58] <Dangr_> MustardCU1, crud - yeah so far I dont think I will either :-/
[02:58] <ny51bern> Datz: no, im not even really sure what that means. but i just booted and it worked.
[02:58] <bazhang> Cale, check the PPA search at launchpad
[02:58] <dustin_> leoechevarria, I want to make the upgrade anyway but dual screens make upgrading a pain at times
[02:58] <ny51bern> Datz: not sure i didn anything differently..
[02:58] <BiosElement> gartral: No?
[02:58] <escott> leoechevarria, and have you tried manually starting compiz
[02:58] <leoechevarria> escott: dustin_ i just created a new user and tried to load unity and said something like "you don't have the necessary hardware to run unity, select ubuntu-classic from the login screen'
[02:58] <jerriy> I type "sudo cat /etc/hostname > /etc/hostname_check" and I immediately get bash: "/etc/hostname_check: Permission denied"
[02:58] <Dangr_> However I have another issue - my wireless cards download speed is brutally slow - but upload speed is fine
[02:58] <ny51bern> nit-wit: just booted and it worked.. rlly weird
[02:58] <GarryFre> When I right-click on anything, I get a popup window where the color of the text is almost the same color as the background color. Since I don't even have the words for these objects, I can't seem to find out how to change these items by googling. Hard to ask a machine a question if you don't have the words.
[02:59] <leoechevarria> escott: not actually, don't know really well what unity is based upon
[02:59] <Datz> ny51bern: strange. well at least it's workin now. Let's hope it stays that way
[02:59] <escott> leoechevarria, what nvidia card is it?
[02:59] <dustin_> leoechevarria, check your proprietary drivers
[02:59] <carl-m> jerriy: yes, you should get permission denied for that
[02:59] <Dangr_> Any ideas as to why my wireless download is so poor but upload is fine?
[02:59] <ny51bern> Datz: yeah u had the same issue? what did u do?
[02:59] <Dangr_> It was working just fine on 10.10
[02:59] <shcherbak> jerriy: Sorry, my bad, just run: sudo cat /etc/hostname (">" do not take sudo)
[02:59] <haroon> ne more problem. UbuntuOne isn't working. It said An internet account is requried but I am already on internet
[02:59] <ny51bern> Datz: turn on and off to make sure its good.
[02:59] <bazhang> haroon, #ubuntone
[02:59] <KNUBBIG> took another machine, works there fine. yey
[02:59] <carl-m> jerriy: but for the 'su' one, it should work. that is not going through sudo. something is wrong with your password, or something is wrog with your authentication setup
[02:59] <ny51bern> Datz: im going to *
[02:59] <bazhang> err #ubuntuone haroon
[02:59] <carl-m> I am surprised you can log in
[02:59] <leoechevarria> escott: dustin_ it's a geforce 6150, integrated
[02:59] <escott> GarryFre, jump lists? popups from the panel?
[02:59] <leoechevarria> drivers seem to be installed ok
[03:00] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, my laptop has a illuminated keyboard.  On windows when I press it it lights up, if idle for 5 seconds it turns off.  how do I get this working with ubuntu?
[03:00] <Datz> ny51bern: ok.
[03:00] <mastaofdisasta> it even works with grub, not with ubuntu
[03:00] <tortoise> Hola. I'm having issues loading certain pages in firefox. I believe it is because the URL contains unknown characters. I'm thinking this is because firefox has not been updated in awhile, due to missing repositories, but I'm not sure how to fix the repositories. Can someone give me a hand with this?
[03:00] <haroon> baxhang,yes
[03:00] <Datz> ny51bern: right now I'm where you were before.
[03:00] <Datz> lol
[03:00] <bazhang> haroon, ask there
[03:00] <jerriy> I something is definitely wrong with my authentication setup. I know that for sure
[03:00] <jerriy> I just dunno how to sort it
[03:00] <uberfrau> :S I copy + pasted the contents of the tarball download (the gedit plugin, and yes i extracted it into tmp)into ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins , and restarted gedit, but the plugin isn't available in the list under preferences. What should check/what could I have done incorrectly?
[03:00] <haroon> one more problem. UbuntuOne isn't working. It said An internet account is requried but I am already on internet
[03:00] <dustin_> leoechevarria, did you check your proprietary drivers?
[03:00] <GarryFre> actally its happenign with any popup list, like the lists under file, view, etc in firefox
[03:00] <ny51bern> Datz:  just hangs on the login page?
[03:01] <Datz> ny51bern: I'm contemplating debian :p
[03:01] <escott> leoechevarria, you could pastebin the glxinfo output, but i'm not really sure what to look for
[03:01] <bazhang> haroon, ask in #ubuntuone please stop repeating
[03:01] <Datz> ny51bern: before then for me
[03:01] <dustin_> leoechevarria, they are usualy disabled on upgrade
[03:01] <Cale> https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/ppa  <-- !! this looks exactly like what I want
[03:01] <shcherbak> jerriy: What about: sudo cat /etc/hostname (are you asked for password?)
[03:01] <ny51bern> Datz: ahhaa. rebooting, lets hope this actually works
[03:01] <leoechevarria> dustin_: what do you mean by checking? i installed 11.04 from stracth, then installed nvidia-current package
[03:01] <Pascalcmoi> I have updated to 11.04 via synaptic and once the system reboot, it cant load any kernel. When i choose a kernel, the screen become black and after few seconds im back to grub menu
[03:01] <MustardCU1> @Pascalcmoi recovery kernel?
[03:01] <dustin_> leoechevarria, ok sounds like you have the correct drivers then and they are enabled
[03:02] <Pascalcmoi> MustardCU1: even this one
[03:02] <escott> Pascalcmoi, what about a kernel that used to work
[03:02] <leoechevarria> dustin_: i think they are
[03:02] <ny51bern> Datz:  ugh its stuck again =.=
[03:02] <tortoise> I'm getting this specific message every time I try to update: "
[03:02] <tortoise> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozzilateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[03:02] <tortoise> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:02] <linuasus6> Hi when I restart computer grub doesnt seem to work it said file not  found how to restore grub please is the grub of linux mint so I gues is grub 2 no^
[03:02] <KNUBBIG> tortoise: that means that the ppa probably doesn't have any packages for lucid lynx yet
[03:02] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, my laptop has a illuminated keyboard.  On windows when I press it it lights up, if idle for 5 seconds it turns off.  how do I get this working with ubuntu?
[03:02] <escott> tortoise, thats a pretty old ppa you may want to purge it with ppa-purge (its for lucid lynx)
[03:03] <GarryFre> Tortoise, sometimes I get that if I don't do reload packages.
[03:03] <Datz> ny51bern: safe mode, recovery, failsafe x, reconfigure graphics restart
[03:03] <Pascalcmoi> escott yes older kernel work but not the new one and the new recovery one
[03:03] <dustin_> leoechevarria, unity may have a small glitch on your system
[03:03] <KNUBBIG> tortoise: you sure you don't got a type there= maybe should be mozillateam instead of mozozilateam?
[03:03] <KNUBBIG> mozilateam*
[03:03] <Pascalcmoi> escott: what can i do via the older recovery kernel to fix everything
[03:03] <ny51bern> Datz: idk how to do that stuff :/
[03:03] <jerriy> shcherbak: yes I'm asked for passworld
[03:03] <Datz> ny51bern: if that recovery menu comes up agian, i'll be in the options
[03:03] <shcherbak> jerriy: And you know your password?
[03:04] <leoechevarria> dustin_: i will not make much of a trouble of it...i just wanted to try it but then install gnome 3 any way :P
[03:04] <Rehan> how can I reverse the steps If I did this command from terminal: "echo "options psmouse proto=imps"|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf; sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse"
[03:04] <uberfrau> guize? ;o
[03:04] <Pascalcmoi> MustardCU1: the old recovery kernel work. what can i do to fix that and what you think cause that
[03:04] <Datz> ny51bern: just select safe mode when you get to the grub menu
[03:04] <tortoise> escott: where could I find a newer ppa?
[03:04] <escott> Pascalcmoi, well you could remove the newer kernel and continue to boot the older one. if it is spontanteously rebooting like that thought, I don't know how to trace the issue, except to start building your own kernel
[03:04] <escott> tortoise, is there a reason you don't want to use ubuntu firefox
[03:04] <dustin_> leoechevarria, well I am doing my upgrade now so I hope some luck fallows me today
[03:05] <MustardCU1> @Pascalcmoi I would update and hope something fixes it.  It's all i got, sorry
[03:05] <kyle__> i have a question about my fonts sizes in kubuntu,  i know this is a ubuntu channel but theres only 1 person in kubuntu talking and he cant help me
[03:05] <KNUBBIG> tortoise: use Opera! *ducksandruns*
[03:05] <tortoise> escott: Oh, I thought I was
[03:05] <ny51bern> Datz: no safe mode option... "recovery mode" ?
[03:05] <jerriy> shcherbak: I am here posting under that username so doesn't that mean I know and "it knows"?
[03:05] <Datz> ny51bern: yep all working here now
[03:05] <kyle__> when i boot up kubuntu my font size is huge, much to big to even fit in the text boxes, i forced 96 dpi once in kubuntu which fixed it, but the log on screen is still huge. any ideas?
[03:05] <leoechevarria> dustin_: good luck with that :P
[03:05] <dustin_> I have a Gnome-plasma hybrid desktop on one screen and a standard Gnome on my TV so I hope it doesnt go all "funny" on me
[03:05] <Datz> ny51bern: are you saying there is a recovery mode?
[03:05] <escott> tortoise, no a ppa is for testing software or for things that are configured differently from stock ubuntu
[03:05] <Datz> or screen*
[03:05] <ny51bern> Datz: yes, not safe mode.
[03:06] <Datz> ny51bern: ok, then there is a failsafe x option or somethiong like that?
[03:06] <ny51bern> Datz: there is 'recovery mode' there isnt a safe mode
[03:06] <Datz> should be midway
[03:06] <Rehan> how can I reverse the steps If I did this command from terminal: echo "options psmouse proto=imps"|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf; sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse
[03:06] <ny51bern> Datz: idk..
[03:06] <dustin_> leoechevarria,  ty for the luck wishes
[03:06] <akharris> Hey guys, I'm running 11.04 32bit, if i install the 64bit what will the diffrences be?
[03:06] <tortoise> escott: is ubuntu ff in the software center?
[03:06] <shcherbak> jerriy: sudo should accept password from "username" user
[03:06] <Datz> ny51bern: what is third option down?
[03:06] <ny51bern> Datz:  i got 6 options on boot list..
[03:07] <escott> Rehan, remove the options psmouse line from /etc/modprobe.d/psmouseconf. and sudo rmmod psmouse
[03:07] <jerriy> shcherbak: login accepts but sudo doesn't
[03:07] <escott> tortoise, yes
[03:07] <shcherbak> jerriy: Ok, one sec
[03:07] <kyle__> anyone have any idea what the problem is?
[03:07] <ny51bern> datz: starting from top to bottom> ubuntu with linux, ubuntu with linux (recovery), previous linux versions, mem test 86+, mem test serial console, windows xp
[03:07] <escott> tortoise, you will want to look at ppa-purge then use synaptic to install firefox
[03:07] <Datz> ny51bern: does it say recovery menu at the top, or grub?
[03:07] <Datz> ny51bern: ah ok, try recovery mode. my fault
[03:07] <MustardCU1> @Pascalcmoi reinstalling 10.10 would also work, of course as long as you know that works.  Just make a new partition and copy anything you need from the 11.04 Ubuntu over to the 10.10
[03:08] <akharris> Diffrence between 32 and 64 bits?
[03:08] <tortoise> escott: where is ppa-purge?
[03:08] <leoechevarria> what's the best way to install gnome3 in ubuntu 11.04 guys :P?
[03:08] <escott> !ppa-purge | tortoise
[03:08] <ny51bern> Datz: top top of screen says " gnu grub version 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3
[03:08] <GarryFre> escott Actually it seems any list like under the main menu in Firefox ...   like Click file and all the choices have to be moused over so I can see the text.
[03:08] <uberfrau> and i just tried `make install` and it failed (Error 1) :/
[03:08] <Datz> ny51bern: ok, try the recovery mode
[03:08] <ny51bern> Datz: k, going into recovery mode
[03:09] <ny51bern> Datz: bunch of options like before.. which was the one to choose?
[03:09] <escott> tortoise, sudo apt-get ppa-purge. just look over what you plan to do first, because in the meantime you wont have a browser
[03:10] <tortoise> escott: that's fine, if anything I have chrome
[03:10] <akharris> What is the Diffrence between a 32 bit of 11.04 and a 64 bit version of 11.04?
[03:10] <pksadiq> !gnome3 | leoechevarria
[03:10] <linuasus6> Hi when I restart computer grub doesnt seem to work it said file not  found how to restore grub please is the grub of linux mint so I gues is grub 2 no^ the grub is suppose to be on /boot partition
[03:10] <ali1234> how do i get apps running inside xephyr to show a menu bar?
[03:10] <leoechevarria> let's break everything! wohoo!
[03:10] <Juest> lol
[03:10] <escott> GarryFre, it should be white font on black background. have you looked at the theme?
[03:10] <Juest> ?
[03:10] <Datz> ny51bern: failsafeX
[03:11] <ny51bern> Datz: okay, doing that now
[03:11] <Pascalcmoi> I have updated to 11.04 via synaptic and once the system reboot, it cant load any kernel. When i choose a kernel, the screen become black and after few seconds im back to grub menu <== im wrong, the system reboot each time i choose the kernel
[03:11] <shcherbak> jerriy: First type your password in terminal prompt to see if it is correct, otherwise you can try to make new admin from recovery to fix last one, check if password is ok, first.
[03:11] <PlndObslcns> join /#cinelerra
[03:11] <ny51bern> Datz: "ubuntu is running in low-graphic mode"
[03:11] <Datz> ny51bern: ok
[03:11] <uberfrau> :S I copy + pasted the contents of the tarball download (the gedit plugin, and yes i extracted it into tmp)into ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins , and restarted gedit, but the plugin isn't available in the list under preferences. What should check/what could I have done incorrectly?
[03:11] <ny51bern> Datz: normal ?
[03:11] <tortoise> escott: is it named ppa-purge? It's not finding the package
[03:11] <Datz> ny51bern: not yet, but getting somewhere
[03:11] <ny51bern> Datz: press "okay"?
[03:11] <Datz> yes
[03:11] <escott> akharris, the wikipedia page explains the differences between 64 and 32 bit architectures. you can see if you have 64 bit by looking for "lm" in the flags section of your /proc/cpuinfo
[03:12] <ny51bern> Datz: k now i got bunch of options
[03:12] <escott> tortoise, are you running lucid?
[03:12] <akharris> escott: ty
[03:12] <Datz> ny51bern: something like default config
[03:12] <Datz> use that one
[03:12] <jerriy> shcherbak: what do you mean type your passworld (just type that alone?
[03:12] <Datz> should be first I think
[03:12] <ny51bern> Datz: dont have that..
[03:12] <ny51bern> Datz: heres what i got
[03:12] <tortoise> escott: yes
[03:12] <Datz> what is the first one?
[03:12] <escott> akharris, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[03:13] <shcherbak> jerriy: Yes to see it in terminal, also try: gksudo gedit
[03:13] <ny51bern> Datz: "run ubuntu in low graphics mode for just one session" "reconfig graphics" "troubleshoot the error" "exit to console login" "restart x"
[03:13] <Datz> ny51bern: reconfigure
[03:13] <linuasus6> ok so if I reinstall ubuntu and put the grub on boot partition the grub will see linux mint and windows 7
[03:13] <mastaofdisasta> I have a backlit keyboard.  is there a way to make this work on linux?
[03:13] <ny51bern> Datz: ok
[03:13] <Datz> ny51bern: then default
[03:13] <boomdraw> 11.04 FTW!:P
[03:14] <dustin_> mastaofdisasta, it should just work as a regular keyboard
[03:14] <jerriy> shcherbak: gksudo gedit resulted (after me typing password): (process:13892): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[03:14] <ny51bern> Datz: okay, tried doing defualt but everytime i click 'ok' takes me back to that option
[03:14] <xiambax> has been running ubuntu+1 since forever
[03:14] <Datz> ny51bern: ok click cancel, what are the options?
[03:14] <jerriy> And then: Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[03:14] <xiambax> 11.04 is old sauce to me
[03:14] <dustin_> mastaofdisasta, the backlighting is usualy done with an led that is built in and needs no drivers
[03:14] <shcherbak> jerriy: Are you in virtual terminal?
[03:14] <boomdraw> unity is not bad...idk why ppl are complaining so much :)
[03:14] <ny51bern> Datz:  back to this: "run ubuntu in low graphics mode for just one session" "reconfig graphics" "troubleshoot the error" "exit to console login" "restart x"
[03:15] <Datz> restart x
[03:15] <mastaofdisasta> dustin_: on windows the backlit keyboard lights up only when I push buttons.  after idle for 5 seconds it turns off
[03:15] <ny51bern> Datz: click ok?
[03:15] <Datz> ny51bern: I think it should work now.yes
[03:15] <sly> Anyone available to help me with a problem?
[03:15] <escott> tortoise, ok well then it makes some sense to have a ppa if you want firefox 4, otherwise you are stuck with 3.2? but the mozillateam hasn't released any packages or has changed names. maybe someone else has packaged firefox 4 for lucid
[03:15] <ny51bern> Datz: login screen.. trying now
[03:15] <Datz> ok
[03:15] <dustin_> mastaofdisasta, have you tried it on ubuntu yet?
[03:15] <ny51bern> Datz: rozen :(
[03:15] <ny51bern> Datz: frozen
[03:15] <mastaofdisasta> yes I'm on ubuntu now but it doesn't work.
[03:16] <Datz> ny51bern: strange. well try and restart. if that doesn't work. try low graphics mode for one session
[03:16] <escott> mastaofdisasta, what laptop is this?
[03:16] <dustin_> mastaofdisasta, mu backlit 10key pad worked right out of the box
[03:16] <jerriy> shcherbak: For all I know I could be in extraterrestrial terminal.
[03:16] <ny51bern> Datz: okay. restarting now
[03:16] <Datz> ny51bern: for me reconfiguring to default x config worked
[03:17] <escott> !help | sly
[03:17] <shcherbak> jerriy: I mean do you have Gui, you know desktop, etc?
[03:17] <sly> escott: I wanted to see if someone was available before I explained the whole ordeal.
[03:17] <uberfrau> is my question too stupid to respond to or something? X_X
[03:17] <ny51bern> Datz: it worked but you know what i noticed?.. on the bottom toolbar of login screen it looks crappy. like black splotches
[03:17] <akharris> Upgrading to 64 bit worth it? Or should I stay put on 32 bit?
[03:17] <ny51bern> Datz: like it isnt loading correctly
[03:18] <jerriy> Yes I'm logged into my ubuntu partition and in a gui environment right now
[03:18] <sly> I'm attempting to figure out why my internal mic and speakers aren't working.
[03:18] <akharris> Anybody here on a Macintosh Computer? I'm having a problem with my speakers, PM me please!
[03:18] <nimrod10> akharris, if you don't have a specific need for 64bit I'd stay on i386 for now
[03:18] <shcherbak> jerriy: And if you type your password in terminal you have right one ?
[03:18] <dustin_> sly what kind of laptop is this? make/model
[03:18] <Datz> ny51bern: strange
[03:19] <a7i3n> Sly - do you have them turned on in firmware?
[03:19] <Datz> ny51bern: did you upgrade, or do a fresh install?
[03:19] <ny51bern> Datz: upgrade
[03:19] <GarryFre> escott yes, you are right, the theme is correct, white text on black backround. Its firefox itself, its the culprit. Looks like I need to fiddle with the firefox theme.
[03:19] <akharris> Sly, My speakers dont work either!
[03:19] <tortoise> escott: should 3.2 load pages such as: http://novemberblue-.tumblr.com ? Because, to be honest, that's the only thing that I seriously want to fix. There are only a few features in ff4 that I would not want to lose.
[03:19] <KNUBBIG> wow irc with iphone and issh :-) successful day  good night all
[03:19] <sly> dustin_: Inspiron 1546
[03:19] <escott> GarryFre, ubuntu has some additions for firefox including a theme package. you might reinstall those/check that they are enabled
[03:19] <uberfrau> guys... ._.?
[03:19] <sly> a7i3n: Not sure what you mean by that.
[03:19] <sly> akharris: That sucks. :(
[03:19] <FishFace> GarryFre: Just wondering since I had the same problem, how video memory do you have?
[03:19] <Datz> ny51bern: did you have any graphics drivers loaded before?
[03:20] <kenneth_> anyone else have problems after switching to ubuntu 11.4?
[03:20] <ny51bern> Datz: how would i know?
[03:20] <Datz> ny51bern: well, you would have loaded them before.
[03:20] <escott> sly, if you have a brand new laptop with intel processors hda_analyzer.py from the alsa group can be helpful
[03:20] <ny51bern> Datz: i didnt do anything manually..
[03:20] <akharris> How do i fix my speakers they dont work! Macintosh/MacBookPro/17in/mid-2008/2gbRAM/2.5GHz Processor,Intel/Nvidia Graphics card. 11.04 32bit. PLEASE HELP :(
[03:20] <sly> escott, it's AMD.
[03:21] <ny51bern> all i did to edit ubuntu was edit grub so that ubuntu was first choice, and added a custom theme.
[03:21] <linuasus6> please how to restore my grub
[03:21] <Juest> linuasus
[03:21] <Datz> ny51bern: humm, well I'm not sure what I can help you with anymore. I'd personally try looking through the recovery options for something
[03:21] <akharris> How do i fix my speakers they dont work! Macintosh/MacBookPro/17in/mid-2008/2gbRAM/2.5GHz Processor,Intel/Nvidia Graphics card. 11.04 32bit. PLEASE HELP :(
[03:21] <Juest> linuasus6: are you with the system running?
[03:22] <ny51bern> Datz: okay, well i posted on forum so maybe i'll get something ther. thanks tho!
[03:22] <linuasus6> im on a live cd atm
[03:22] <jerriy>  shcherbak: I just hit control-alt-F5 and opened up terminal in max mode and was asked to login so I typed my username , then typed my password I did and it went OK :P
[03:22] <pbandcheezwhiz> updated to Natty.  I didn't like how Unity was dealing with my dual monitors.  Installed Gnome-shell.  I got the theme to work correctly, but it seems the window decorations are not.  I ran "/usr/lib/gnome-session/gnome-session-check-accelerated; echo $?
[03:22] <pbandcheezwhiz> " and acceleration is working   Thoughts?
[03:22] <Juest> linuasus6: try reinstalling grub in the system
[03:22] <escott> akharris, first check alsamixer command line that nothing is muted
[03:22] <linuasus6> ya how
[03:22] <Juest> but maybe no way with live cd
[03:22] <Juest> upgrade system
[03:23] <nit-wit> linuasus6, can you paste bin the output from sudo fdisk -lu
[03:23] <sly> escott, I also tried the alsamixer and it showed internal mic as being 100%.
[03:23] <uberfrau>  :S I copy + pasted the contents of the tarball download (the gedit plugin, and yes i extracted it into tmp)into ~/.local/share/gedit/plugins , and restarted gedit, but the plugin isn't available in the list under preferences. What should check/what could I have done incorrectly?
[03:23] <dustin_> sly I am not finding known issues for your laptop but have you checked your sound settings?
[03:23] <escott> tortoise, yeah the old version of firefox is fine
[03:23] <Guest97621> #ubuntu-cn
[03:23] <carl-m> linuasus6: did you update to 11.04 when this happened?
[03:23] <linuasus6> no im on 10.04
[03:23] <Juest> akharris: do this, stop randomsound
[03:23] <tortoise> escott: Okay, I know this is a stupid question, but what would be the smoothest way to revert back to 3.2?
[03:24] <sly> dustin_, I've checked alsamixer to make sure it wasn't muted (as I just mentioned to escott). It said it is at 100%.
[03:24] <linuasus6> pastebin
[03:24] <dustin_> sly sorry I am late to the conversation reading up it seems escot has you where I was going to send you
[03:24] <sly> It's alright.
[03:24] <GarryFre> FishFace I have 1gb
[03:24] <linuasus6> pastebin.com is ok
[03:24] <Juest> hey, to make sound work make sure that there's only one audio server daemon running
[03:24] <sly> It was working when I did the fresh install for 11.04, because I could see it in the normal sound preferences dialog from the sound menu.
[03:24] <shcherbak> jerriy: Once more, in gnome-terminal: type your password to see it letter by leter, to know if it is problem with encodind. Second in tty5 (where you just logged in, test: sudo cat /etc/hostname and check if sudo takes your password).
[03:24] <FishFace> GarryFre: OK. Thanks. Mine was much lower
[03:24] <dustin_> sly stick with escot he is pretty good with laptop stuff he has helped me in the past
[03:24] <Juest> and make pulseaudio as system
[03:25] <uberfrau> someone please answer my question, or at least say why it isn't a good question =/
[03:25] <sly> I mean. It shows that it has an internal mic, so I know it's recognizing it. I just don't get why it's not picking up any sound.
[03:25] <shcherbak> *many typos (coffee time)
[03:25] <linuasus6> here http://pastebin.com/SyujP3hU
[03:25] <uberfrau> pavucontrol?
[03:25] <aussa> hi, how do I know a "make" command was succesful?
[03:26] <FishFace> uberfrau: uberfrau Just a guess. Did you do it as root?
[03:26] <escott> tortoise, you have to purge the ppa which involves uninstalling firefox, and removing the ppa from your apt-sources, and then reinstall firefox
[03:26] <MustardCU1> Is there anyway I could run this without sudo? sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=30 it needs sudo to access /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.0/config though
[03:26] <GarryFre> escott thanks, I found the theme choices in add on manager and switched to a theme. It looked like no theme at all was being applied - none were set to be in use.
[03:26] <root_> hello world!
[03:26] <uberfrau> FishFace, do what as root? o.o
[03:26] <newb_> Hello! Ubuntu natty come with gnome 3?
[03:26] <MustardCU1> Newb_ no
[03:26] <escott> tortoise, the ppa-purge script merely automates the removal and makes sure that nothing else installed by that ppa
[03:27] <newb_> MustardCU1: Can I install gnome3 on natty?
[03:27] <shcherbak> uberfrau: who owns tars and what pernissions (should not plugins be untared), and do not spam, please.
[03:27] <MustardCU1> newb_ yes
[03:27] <GarryFre> escott++
[03:27] <escott> aussa, it should generate an executable you can run (and shouldn't finish with lots of errors)
[03:27] <phillipe> español
[03:27] <MustardCU1> i'll get the link
[03:27] <KM0201> newb_: you can... but during beta, results were very mixed... (lots of lockups, etc..) YMMV.
[03:27] <shcherbak> newb_: via PPA, yes
[03:27] <Juest> is possible to install gnome3 inside 10.10 with gnome unistalled?
[03:27] <nit-wit> linuasus6, which partition is the install you want to have the boot
[03:28] <MustardCU1> newb_, here you go http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3
[03:28] <Juest> for example with kubuntu
[03:28] <phillipe> out of range hf 30 70 vf 50 160?
[03:28] <MustardCU1> Newb_, backup your stuff first
[03:28] <linuasus6> nit-wit /boot is sdc5
[03:28] <uberfrau> shcherbak: https://github.com/kassoulet/gedit-focus-autosave#readme and i did extract it
[03:28] <jerriy> THE DEVIL! THAT'S it shcherbak: I just noticed that my keyboard isn't typing what's on the keyborard
[03:28] <shcherbak> Juest: Maybe, try to mach source, and experiment, you are likely to be first.
[03:28] <escott> newb_, the gnome3-ppa tends to break unity (or so i have heard)
[03:28] <astory> I'm seeing banshee use 100% of a processor 0- I could't find any references online to this, does anybody else have this problem?
[03:28] <MustardCU1> escott, it did for me
[03:28] <tortoise> escott: okay, where is the *right firefox to install? Because I feel like there is an overwhelming amount of packages to install for ff?
[03:29] <KM0201> escott: that was my experience... not to mention, it wasn't reliable at all.
[03:29] <astory> escott: yeah, it did when I tried it
[03:29] <uberfrau> and sorry about the spamming, i've been at this for 1.5 hours and want to get back to Ruby :/
[03:29] <Juest> why and what's mach source?
[03:29] <phillipe> #ubuntu-es
[03:29] <shcherbak> jerriy: Hurray, check settings in gnome-terminal
[03:29] <KM0201> MustardCU1: so why are you recommending it?.. why not say yes, it can, w/ some caveats, instead of "yes, and a link"
[03:29] <gartral> whatever happened too the secuirty and encryption gui in ubuntu?
[03:29] <shcherbak> jerriy: or.. man locale
[03:29] <Juest> !repeat | uberfrau
[03:29] <MustardCU1> KM0201, i never did
[03:29] <nit-wit> linuasus6, cool here is a link to a grub reload from a live cd it is grub2.https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[03:29] <escott> tortoise, there should be only one firefox listed in synaptic after you remove the mozillateam ppa
[03:29] <KM0201> MustardCU1: you said yes it can, and gave him the link
[03:30] <MustardCU1> KM0201, they asked for it so i gave it to them
[03:30] <MustardCU1> KM0201, well Gnome 3 works
[03:30] <KM0201> ..
[03:30] <MustardCU1> lol
[03:30] <nit-wit> linuasus6, is the sdc a external
[03:30] <kyle__> anyone know why my fonts are huge on the log on screen, like to big to fit in text boxes? ive forced dpi to 96 to make it workable in kubuntu itself, but the log on screen is still huge. any ideas?
[03:30] <gartral> MustardCU1: "Works" and "Works well" have ENTIRLY different meanings!
[03:30] <MustardCU1> true
[03:30] <sly> escott, you have any clue to another solution besides going into the alsamixer direction, since I've already been there?
[03:30] <KM0201> !worksforme
[03:30] <linuasus6> ya nit-wit is for that I made a /boot partition
[03:31] <newb_> MustardCU1, KM0201, shcherbak, escott: Really thanks for info! I will try the link! Last question: Can I install Unity and change from Unity/Gnome-shell when I want from this PPA? Asking this based on escott question about break unity...
[03:31] <escott> uberfrau, is that the correct place to put the plugin? (i have no idea), you might check on #gnome?
[03:31] <KM0201> newb_: again, my experience, gnome-shell broke unity, when i tried to remove gnome-shell, unity remained broken.. this was during beta, i ended up just reinstalling
[03:31] <nit-wit> linuasus6, cool jus load it as the two commands show and the second command to the sdc mbr does this make sense
[03:31] <uberfrau> escott, yes it is correct
[03:31] <MustardCU1> Newb_, didn't work for me but once Gnome 3 was gone Unity was working again
[03:31] <astory> KM0201: unity un-broke for me
[03:31] <escott> sly, i only know my trick for intel hda devices
[03:32] <astory> but I used purge-ppa
[03:32] <uberfrau> the ubuntu page on gedit says as much
[03:32] <sly> Ah, fml.
[03:32] <KM0201> astory: you're lucky... there were several in the beta channel that ended up reinstalling when they tried to remove it...
[03:32] <jerriy> shcherbak: wait I'm trying to find out how to find the right key to my password
[03:32] <Juest> KM0201: here it happened the same, installed gnome3-session and gnome-shell and it broken whole gnome
[03:32] <Juest> in 10.10
[03:32] <kyle__> hmm ok
[03:32] <kyle__> anyone know why my fonts are huge on the log on screen, like to big to fit in text boxes? ive forced dpi to 96 to make it workable in kubuntu itself, but the log on screen is still huge. any ideas?
[03:33] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Make all three files owned by root:root and set to 775, after you done, restart gedit, and see if python is running (in htop?).
[03:33] <Juest> try in accesibility settings in login
[03:33] <kyle__> i have
[03:33] <shcherbak> jerriy: What key is it?
[03:33] <kyle__> no work
[03:33] <FishFace> uberfrau: Cant help you much on that. If you are root and you do the make , make install blah blah, and it doesn't work, then something is broken. Good luck on that.
[03:33] <Juest> :O
[03:33] <linuasus6> nit-wit the grub is the linux mint grub, ubuntu is on sdc4 I think
[03:33] <shcherbak> jerriy: ;)
[03:33] <kyle__> the font problem only happens with kde,  gnome and gdm are fine,   kde and kdm are huge
[03:33] <aussa> how do I know where the error is while "making"?
[03:33] <jerriy> I'm looking for french E
[03:33] <uberfrau> when i do the make install, it says the files already exist where they should be (Error 1)
[03:34] <uberfrau> shcherbak, how do i do your recommendation?
[03:34] <gartral> whatever happened too the secuirty and encryption gui in ubuntu?
[03:34] <uberfrau> and i was not root when i did the make...i was in the directory which contains the files?
[03:34] <escott> aussa, you have to scroll through the errors and find the first one
[03:34] <nit-wit> linuasus6, use the same cd of the insta and  In the terminal sudo mount /dev/sdc5 /mnt  then  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdc
[03:34] <Juest> kyle__: try tweaking kde
[03:35] <nit-wit> linuasus6, *install
[03:35] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[03:35] <kyle__> ive gotten kde to look fine now
[03:35] <kyle__> it just kdm
[03:36] <kyle__> and it only happen on this monitor
[03:36] <kyle__> if i hook up my 22" it looks fine
[03:36] <kyle__> this is a 40" @ 1920
[03:36] <tortoise> escott: I'm honestly not sure which one I'm supposed to be installing. There's one titled "firefox" but I believe it's even older than 3.2. There is also xul-ext-ubufox, I'm not sure what this is though?
[03:36] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Forgot make, just copy all three files to mentioned in readme directory, chown and chmod
[03:37] <judget> can LVM be added after 10.04 server install?
[03:37] <nyoger> night
[03:37] <newb_> MustardCU1, KM0201, shcherbak, escott: OoOps, system restart from distro upgrade! i back soon
[03:37] <MustardCU1> newb_k
[03:37] <uberfrau> shcherbak O_O i have never really done this stuff, sorry i'm dunno how to do this stuff...the three files = ?, the readme directory, chown, and chmod are where?
[03:37] <linuasus6> http://pastebin.com/Vrw2S4U5
[03:38] <MadRobot> Hi all
[03:38] <shcherbak> jerriy: Bad think is cannot find french keyboard...
[03:38] <gartral> STUUUPID question, if i wanted too install kde.. without using the kubuntu-desktop meta-package, what would i apt-get?
[03:39] <MadRobot> how do I configure compiz without having to switch to the old interface?
[03:39] <linuasus6> nit-wit http://pastebin.com/Vrw2S4U5
[03:39] <jerriy> shcherbak: I got the mofo it's é
[03:40] <bullgard4> gartral: That is a bad idea.
[03:40] <administrator__> .
[03:40] <Andre_Gondim> how I do increase my workspace?
[03:40] <KM0201> linuasus6: tat error is obvious, are yo on a lvie cd?
[03:40] <s093294> Hello, anyone able to assist getting hdmi enabled, Thinkbad edge. I have the tv set on the hdmi channel and pluged in the cable but cant select the tv as monitor
[03:40] <shcherbak> uberfrau: From link you gave me, skip makefile, read README, get other 3 files, copy them to ~/.share/local/gedit/plugins (you will need to use sudo), and restart gedit, make directory ~/FilesAreHere and put all 3 files there.
[03:40] <linuasus6> ya
[03:40] <KM0201> linuasus6: did you follow the instructions to mount the drive?
[03:40] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:40] <gartral> bullgard4: why?
[03:40] <shcherbak> jerriy: ;)
[03:41] <administrator__> ...............
[03:41] <bullgard4> Andre_Gondim: My workspace is the whole screen. Yours not?
[03:41] <linuasus6> km201 I just copy what nit-wit send me
[03:41] <uberfrau> shcherbak: i did read README before asking this stuff, i'll try to accomplish your fix, thanks
[03:41] <aussa> how do I record the make output to a file?
[03:41] <bullgard4> gartral: Because KDE is a complicated program consisting of many components.
[03:41] <shcherbak> uberfrau: I am here in case of trouble.
[03:41] <Andre_Gondim> bullgard4, I have 4 workspace in natty, how do I set more ou less as I want?
[03:42] <jerriy> shcherbak I am now updating the bugger and will log out (cuz terminal is still showing the wrong keyboard set up (the gui is fully working and needless to say THANK YOU SO MUCH
[03:42] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:42] <KM0201> !grub2 | linuasus6: well, i wasn't paying attention, but nit-wit is competent... try reading the link to 'restore grub2 after windows"
[03:42] <bigrob21> hey whats  up sexi  ladys
[03:42] <trism> Andre_Gondim: in ccsm under general options
[03:42] <tortoise> could someone tell me if this is something good to go by? http://www.khattam.info/howto-install-firefox-4-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx-and-10-10-maverick-meerkat-2-2011-04-07.html
[03:42] <shcherbak> jerriy: Welcome ;)
[03:42] <Andre_Gondim> thanks
[03:42] <shcherbak> aussa: Record sound?
[03:42] <greenlantern> and why is it called Gnome 3, from About Gnome i got gnome version 2.32.1
[03:43] <KM0201> linuasus6: cuz it looks like you were running that command, on a drive that wasn't mounted
[03:43] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:43] <neothecat> hello.  i usually use netbeans, but it seems a bit sluggish on 11.04.  i am using open-jdk 6.  is another java recommended with the newest ubuntu?
[03:43] <aussa> no, I mean, save all the process to look for errors... :S
[03:43] <Superstar> I'm having problems with FTP. I regularly get disconnected. Is there any alternatives that allow direct editing on the fly?
[03:43] <cheeguy> hmmm need a lil help with drivers for ubuntu
[03:43] <uberfrau> shcherbak: WOW, i think i mixed up local and share in the path! OMG D:
[03:44] <bullgard4> Andre_Gondim: Right-click on the the icon in the lower right. > Preferences > Number of workspaces > 5.
[03:44] <MustardCU1> cheeguy, like?
[03:44] <greenlantern> and why is it called Gnome 3, from About Gnome i got gnome version 2.32.1
[03:44] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:44] <uberfrau> Windows experience bites me in the ass again! (local_low is probably what I was thinking)
[03:44] <greenlantern> and why is it called Gnome 3, from About Gnome i got gnome version 2.32.1
[03:44] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:44] <cheeguy> cannot use my mousepad or my wireless card
[03:44] <greenlantern> and why is it called Gnome 3, from About Gnome i got gnome version 2.32.1
[03:44] <greenlantern> in ubuntu 11.04 i can't get gnome-panel, there is no gnome-panel
[03:44] <FloodBot1> greenlantern: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:44] <KM0201> greenlantern: stop
[03:44] <linuasus6> km0201 is on the desktop mounted I dont know why it said is not mounted the error talking of /dev
[03:44] <KM0201> first, gnome3, is not in Ubuntu 11.04.. read the release notes
[03:45] <shcherbak> aussa: If you think of debugging, there is many thinks, what process?
[03:45] <MustardCU1> cheeguy, if your not already plug that computer into the internet using a wired connection and update.
[03:45] <greenlantern> KM0201: where is gnome-panel ?
[03:45] <greenlantern> KM0201: which docs ?
[03:45] <nit-wit> linuasus6, copy and paste bro
[03:45] <KM0201> greenlantern: if you';re using unity, its not there
[03:45] <MustardCU1> cheeguy, also check for additional drivers
[03:45] <DingGGu> how to install apache2 module mod_cband on ubuntu?
[03:45] <greenlantern> KM0201: what's unity ?
[03:45] <KM0201> ..
[03:45] <linuasus6> nit-wit http://pastebin.com/Vrw2S4U5
[03:46] <MustardCU1> KM0201 Unity is basicly Gnome for Ubuntu 11.04 but well... isn't Gnome
[03:46] <cheeguy> are there drivers developed for the vaio series?
[03:46] <gartral> bullgard4: ok, as long as I can switch back.. and it doesn't auto-replace gdm
[03:46] <aussa> I want to look for erros in a "make" command, it is too long
[03:46] <DingGGu> how to install apache2 module mod_cband on ubuntu? version:10.04
[03:46] <nit-wit> linuasus6, make sure the sdc drive is the first read in the bios, unless it is a external and you know the key propmt boot
[03:46] <MustardCU1> gah, sent it to the wrong person!
[03:46] <greenlantern> KM0201: which docs ?
[03:46] <KM0201> MustardCU1: basically and "is" is totally different, i've used the gnome3 live cd.. and its a lot different from unity
[03:46] <Jordan_U> linuasus6: Can you pastebin the output of "mount"?
[03:46] <akharris> Anybody here know how to use HDA Analyzer? I REALLY need some help!!!!!!
[03:46] <uberfrau> stupid thing i discovered in the process of trying to install this gedit plugin:
[03:46] <shcherbak> aussa: make will give you errs anyway, man make is good start, tho.
[03:47] <nit-wit> linuasus6, I gave two commands look closer
[03:47] <greenlantern> KM0201: where is gnome-panel ?
[03:47] <greenlantern> KM0201: where is gnome-panel ? Jordan_U
[03:47] <owner_> how  do  i speed up my laptop?
[03:47] <uberfrau> when i do `cd ~`, it just takes me to home/user
[03:47] <aussa> I want to pastebin it
[03:47] <KM0201> greenlantern: stop being annoying.. if you're using unity, there is no gnome panel, now go read the release notes on ubuntu.com
[03:47] <Inphernal> greenlantern: I don't think 11.01 doesn't use Gnome
[03:47] <MadRobot> Where do I find the new Application Panels Indicators/
[03:47] <MadRobot> ?
[03:47] <akharris> Anybody here know how to use HDA Analyzer?!?! I really need help please!!!!!
[03:47] <shcherbak> uberfrau: same will: cd as cd ~ does
[03:47] <Inphernal> * I don't think 110.4 uses Gnome* lol
[03:47] <linuasus6> nit-wit I put install after sdc
[03:47] <Jordan_U> uberfrau: That's what it's supossed to do. What were you expecting?
[03:47] <s093294> How can i check that my hdmi output is configuret, nothing happens when plugging the tv cable in it.
[03:47] <Inphernal> fail
[03:48] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[03:48] <uberfrau> i thought ~ was root? :(
[03:48] <nit-wit> linuasus6, first command sudo mount /dev/sdc5 /mnt
[03:48] <owner_> hey sexi
[03:48] <Jordan_U> !language | owner_
[03:48] <ciphernix> hi
[03:48] <Inphernal> I've looked onlien, but couldn't find any solutions, just other people experiencing the problem
[03:48] <greenlantern> Inphernal: are you sure ?
[03:48] <uberfrau> i know i have more files than the contents of `cd ~`
[03:48] <nit-wit> linuasus6, then run the next one you ran reboot to the OS and run sudo update-grub
[03:49] <greenlantern> Inphernal: ubuntu doesn't have ubuntu ?
[03:49] <greenlantern> Inphernal: ubuntu doesn't have ubuntu/gnome ?
[03:49] <MadRobot> Hello?
[03:49] <owner_> fuck off bye
[03:49] <tortoise> I'm  having an issue loading pages with unkown characters in firefox 4, and would love some help fixing this. I'm running 10.04
[03:49] <greenlantern> does ubuntu use gnome3 ?
[03:49] <bison> what is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:49] <bullgard4> gartral: Instaling KDE will not automatically auto-replace gdm. But having installed KDE you cannot simply "switch" back to having no KDE. Because Ubuntu has made too many metapackages. This would mean rather much effort by hand.
[03:49] <KM0201> greenlantern: no, it uses unity..
[03:49] <Inphernal> greenlantern: "11.04 is considered to be a major release for Ubuntu because it represents a significant departure from the default GNOME UI to the new Unity UI."
[03:49] <uberfrau> how do i get to the very top level?
[03:49] <skarufue> does anyone know the sudoers syntax. i need to allow one user to execute one specific command as one specific user other then root without entering a password. and i wonder if anyone speaks that synthetic language this config is written in.
[03:49] <shcherbak> uberfrau: try, pwd, tree (may need to install), la, man ls
[03:50] <greenlantern> unity UI sucks
[03:50] <KM0201> Inphernal: lol, death to reading!
[03:50] <KM0201> greenlantern: then don't use it
[03:50] <uberfrau> shcherbak, what? O_O!?
[03:50] <shcherbak> uberfrau: cd / (what is root directory)
[03:50] <uberfrau> thanks
[03:50] <bullgard4> bison: Your apt package system is not all right. Check it.
[03:50] <greenlantern> KM0201: how can i get default gnome-panel
[03:50] <Inphernal> km0201: Haha it does scroll pretty fast xD
[03:50] <uberfrau> so ~ is home, / is root, k
[03:50] <KM0201> greenlantern: ..
[03:50] <uberfrau> now that i know that, back to trying to install the plugin =)
[03:50] <shcherbak> !resetpanel | greenlantern
[03:50] <MadRobot> KM0201, how do I use the panel-indicators?
[03:51] <MadRobot> KM0201, where do I find them?
[03:51] <bison> bullgard4: how?
[03:51] <uberfrau> greenlantern: halt! *German glare* :D
[03:51] <KM0201> Maddogm: on unity?.. you install them from synaptic.. if you mean the panel applets, they don't wrk on unity, you have to be using gnome classic
[03:51] <linuasus6> nit-wit http://pastebin.com/PnAEAqFD
[03:51] <shcherbak> greenlantern: Oup, missed statement "Unity sucks so much"
[03:51] <nit-wit> linuasus6, http://pastebin.com/69bWgwsW
[03:51] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[03:52] <KM0201> Maddogm: i think you can create a panel.. and add the panel applets to it.. but th top panel.. you won't be able to add applets to it... unless they are indicator applets
[03:52] <bullgard4> bison: Try '~$ update-manager'.
[03:52] <skarufue> I rewrote that with commas: Does anyone know the sudoers syntax. i need to allow one user to execute, one specific command, as one specific user, other then root, without entering a password. and i wonder if anyone speaks that synthetic language this config is written in and can help me out.
[03:52] <Ultimate_Chaos> i figured it out
[03:53] <MadRobot> KM0201, oh, I see. That's quite disappointing if you ask me. Thanks though.
[03:53] <sahil> my unity not woking after i messed with dm
[03:53] <Guest75965> guys how can i add applications to start up at every boot in gnome 3
[03:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> my netork device isnt managed
[03:53] <uberfrau> oh, shcherbak, when exactly will i have to use sudo? did you mean if i'm copying+pasting using Konsole?
[03:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> cause it was on a NAT
[03:53] <bison> bullgard4: nothing happens
[03:53] <nit-wit> linuasus6, you ran the commands backwards just reboot and follow my last pastebin if this does not work post the bootscript in a pastebin.http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:53] <KM0201> MadRobot: Gnome is getting away from the panel applets, and moving towards indicator applets.. it's honestly not surprising...
[03:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> how do i take it off the nat?
[03:53] <sahil> can any1 help me?
[03:53] <MadRobot> KM0201, how do I add them to the indicator?
[03:54] <aussa> what do I need to build with scons?
[03:54] <bullgard4> bison: What do you mean by: "Nothing happens"?
[03:54] <KM0201> MadRobot: if an indicator applet is available.. msot fo the time, you install them from synaptic
[03:54] <greenlantern> how can i get gnome-panel by default no unity ?
[03:54] <greenlantern> how can i get gnome-panel by default no unity ?
[03:54] <greenlantern> how can i get gnome-panel by default no unity ?
[03:54] <FloodBot1> greenlantern: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:54] <KM0201> someone kick that clown
[03:54] <greenlantern> how can i get gnome-panel by default no unity ?
[03:54] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello?
[03:54] <MadRobot> KM0201, no need to add anything at all?
[03:54] <Inphernal> greenlantern: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-194085.shtml
[03:55] <KM0201> MadRobot: nope.. just install them in synaptic, and it will get added to the indicator applet tray (up by the clock)
[03:55] <Jordan_U> greenlantern: If you flood the channel by repeating questions like that again you will be removed and possibly banned.
[03:55] <Guest75965> guys how can i add applications to start up at every boot in gnome 3 there doesn't seem to be an option in system setting, is there a  command i can use
[03:55] <greenlantern> Inphernal: i don't need gnome 3
[03:55] <skarufue> unity is awesome!! be haitin
[03:55] <bison> bullgard4: when i type update-manager
[03:55] <greenlantern> Jordan_U: how can i get gnome-panel by default no unity ?
[03:55] <LinuxMonkey> greenlantern, when you login select ubutu classic on the bottom
[03:55] <sahil> unity not working after i messed with gdm
[03:55] <Jordan_U> greenlantern: I don't know. Please stop asking me.
[03:55] <sahil> i reverted it but no panal /launcher
[03:55] <shcherbak> skarufue: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/hddtemp-and-normal-user-484609/ what may help you
[03:55] <kyle__> any ideas why my nvidia driver says "activated but not in use" ??
[03:56] <nit-wit> linuasus6, Actualy my pastbin is inncorrect the x in the second command should be a c I wil do it again hold on
[03:56] <greenlantern> Jordan_U: how many days are you using ubuntu ?
[03:56] <bison> '~$ update-manager'.
[03:56] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Where are files you downloaded?
[03:56] <greenlantern> LinuxMonkey: hi
[03:56] <skarufue> shcherbak: thankyou but no
[03:56] <greenlantern> LinuxMonkey: how can i get gnome-panel default
[03:56] <Inphernal> Anybody know how to fix "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." when upgrading to 11.04 from 10.10 64bit
[03:57] <skarufue> shcherbak: my question was very specific i have that exact specific problem
[03:57] <greenlantern> i want to remove unity , but it prompts me to remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:57] <nit-wit> linuasus6, sorry about that, http://pastebin.com/h3ufspVU
[03:57] <skarufue> shcherbak: sudoers syntax is just inanely hard
[03:57] <LinuxMonkey> greenlantern,  just select ubuntu classic on the login screen....it will stay default unless you change it again
[03:57] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | greenlantern
[03:57] <doomrobo> Is there a decent sticky-notes desktop widget for unity?
[03:57] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh um
[03:57] <jbicha> Inphernal: Ubuntu 11.04 definitely uses GNOME and please don't encourage people to use the Gnome 3 PPA
[03:57] <greenlantern> LinuxMonkey: i want to remove unity
[03:57] <shcherbak> skarufue: Reduce priviledges on certain application, right?
[03:57] <skarufue> greenlantern: removing ubuntu-desktop is not a problem it is just a metapackage everything will work fine
[03:57] <jbicha> doomrobo: did you try Tombody?
[03:57] <Inphernal> jbicha: I wasn't encouraging, I thought that's what he was trying to do
[03:57] <jbicha> Tomboy
[03:57] <bullgard4> bison: If you typed '~$ update-manager' and the program Update manager did not appear, then something serious is at fault. Please check your dmesg.
[03:58] <doomrobo> I don't like Tomboy
[03:58] <uberfrau> shcherbak: i extracted them and somehow they are located at /tmp/kde-Sophia/
[03:58] <nit-wit> greenlantern, what desktop do you want
[03:58] <greenlantern> gnome
[03:58] <MadRobot> KM0201, It's not about the indicator-applets themselves. What actually disappointing is having to add them from Synaptic (or the terminal).
[03:58] <linuasus6> nit-wit I unmount partition on desktop to do it in the right order but now it said that mount special device doesnt exist
[03:58] <jeregon> hello can any one tell me how to copy my old server (use to be on windows seven) to my new one (ubuntu server)? (its all in a flash drive)
[03:58] <doomrobo> something like knotes
[03:58] <shcherbak> uberfrau: There was nothing to extract
[03:58] <BiosElement> greenlantern: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28050/how-do-i-use-use-the-classic-gnome-desktop
[03:58] <KM0201> MadRobot: i agree.. i always kinda liked "right clicking the panel" and adding them.
[03:58] <KM0201> made it simple
[03:59] <greenlantern> i removed unity, aptitude remove unity
[03:59] <uberfrau> shcherbak, oh ;s
[03:59] <KM0201> MadRobot: not to mention, some of the panel applets, have not been properly implemented into indicator applets yet (like system monitor)
[03:59] <nit-wit> linuasus6, I have never seen that error open gparted and look at the partitions
[03:59] <uberfrau> are you sure O_O!!?
[03:59] <doomrobo> jbicha does knotes work for unity?
[03:59] <MadRobot> KM0201, thanks to this issue alone, I assure you that quite many of those who interested in Ubuntu will walk away from just because of that.
[03:59] <skarufue> schcherback no exactly this:  i need to allow one user to execute one specific command as one specific user other then root without entering a password. its in /etc/sudoers something along the lines of user All=(otheruser) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/command
[03:59] <skarufue> shcherbak: but not exactly that
[03:59] <nit-wit> linuasus6, post it if you can treally the bootscript is what I need
[03:59] <jbicha> doomrobo: Tomboy is installed by default, I don't think knotes will work right with the notification icon
[04:00] <shcherbak> uberfrau: there is whole code, it is script in python: https://github.com/kassoulet/gedit-focus-autosave/blob/master/focus_autosave.py
[04:00] <KM0201> MadRobot: maybe.. it'll just take some adjusting to... unity kept giving my machine issues, so i just switched to xfce, which is similar enough to ubuntu.
[04:00] <KM0201> classic gnome
[04:00] <linuasus6> nit-wit I think I need to restart sdc is not in the list of gparted
[04:00] <doomrobo> jbicha Tomboy doesn't let me "stick" notes to the desktop, is there anything for unity that can?
[04:00] <uberfrau> shcherbak, i don't get your point
[04:00] <bison> bullgard4: ok, lots of detail, where should i paste it
[04:01] <nit-wit> linuasus6, if it is a external yeah reboot I have to be off for about 5-10 min
[04:01] <MadRobot> KM0201, I think I might do the same. :\
[04:01] <jbicha> doomrobo: not that I'm really aware of, you'll just have to try stuff and see
[04:01] <doomrobo> ok
[04:01] <jbicha> there's an app named "The Board" which may be what you want but it's not packaged for Ubuntu yet (next release)
[04:01] <Inphernal> trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:01] <KM0201> MadRobot: xfce4 is slick.. i like it... disable compositing, and its very fast (or if you've got a newer PC, it'll be fast w/ it)
[04:01] <bullgard4> !pastebin | bison
[04:01] <KM0201> MadRobot: but its not as user friendly as gnome.. but i have used it before, and like it
[04:02] <MadRobot> KM0201, Yeah,
[04:02] <jbicha> Inphernal: I'm guessing you have several PPAs
[04:02] <MadRobot> I'm switching back to gnome.
[04:02] <linuasus6> brb
[04:02] <skarufue> Does anyone know the sudoers syntax. i need to allow one user to execute, one specific command, as one specific user, other then root, without entering a password. and i wonder if anyone speaks that synthetic language this config is written in and can help me out.
[04:02] <shcherbak> uberfrau: From link I gave you, yes you right there is tar (too lazy with clicking.)
[04:03] <MadRobot> So how do I switch back to Gnome.
[04:03] <dabbish2> was just reading about Mark Shuttleworth, respect
[04:03] <uberfrau> shcherbak, it's okay, you're trying to help <3
[04:03] <shcherbak> uberfrau: OK, locate focus_autosave.py
[04:03] <dabbish2> what a guy
[04:03] <Inphernal> jbicha: I'm pretty sure I removed all but the original ones, how can I check and let you know which I have
[04:03] <jbicha> Inphernal: you could paste.ubuntu.com your sources.list
[04:04] <uberfrau> shcherbak, i just told you where i extracted them to (pretty sure i accidentally clicked on something wrong when choosing the extraction location/files with ark)
[04:04] <bison> bullgard4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601578/
[04:04] <shcherbak> uberfrau: cd to that directory
[04:04] <uberfrau> sure, sec
[04:05] <jbicha> Inphernal: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <doomrobo> jbicha knotes seems to work
[04:05] <jbicha> cool
[04:05] <Inphernal> jbicha: Got it, kept opening in a funny window not allowing me to copy. http://paste.ubuntu.com/601579/
[04:06] <harushimo> does ubuntu have python 2.7 on repositories?
[04:06] <Logan_> !classic | MadRobot
[04:06] <jbicha> harushimo: yes, python 2.7 is default for 11.04
[04:06] <uberfrau> shcherbak: k, in the directory that i extracted the tarball into now =)
[04:07] <jbicha> Inphernal: oh I forgot that PPA repos aren't stored in that file
[04:08] <jbicha> I'm not really sure how to walk you through upgrading safely; I think it's the PPAs that are causing an issue but not sure
[04:08] <harushimo> I'm running 10.04 LTS
[04:08] <harushimo> is it available for that
[04:08] <shcherbak> uberfrau: OK, just pulled gedit to make sure it works, cd kass<TAB>
[04:08] <uberfrau> wait what?
[04:08] <Logan_> !info python lucid | harushimo
[04:09] <Inphernal> jbicha: I'm looking in the repositories section in synaptic package manager, and it seems the wine, firefox, and a couple other http://ppa.launchpad... are still there, even though I clicked remove on all of them, is there a specific way I need to do this?
[04:09] <bison> bullgard4: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601578/
[04:09] <harushimo> I know python 2.6.5 is for lucid. why isn't only available for unity and lucid
[04:09] <harushimo> I mean not lucid
[04:09] <uberfrau> shcherbak, I'm confused as to what you want me to do now
[04:10] <jeregon> hello can any one tell me how to copy my old server (use to be on windows seven) to my new one (ubuntu server)? (its all in a flash drive)
[04:10] <Logan_> harushimo: Python 2.7 wasn't built to work on Natty, or the other way around.
[04:10] <Logan_> *Lucid
[04:10] <jeregon> this are files im talking about
[04:10] <pksadiq> !info python2.7 lucid | harushimo
[04:10] <jbicha> Inphernal: sorry, I'm just not sure how to walk you through the upgrade safely
[04:11] <harushimo> that make sense
[04:11] <Logan_> harushimo: You can build from source, but that's not really recommended.
[04:11] <jbicha> I've forced upgrades on my computer but I don't think that's good advice for me to be giving here
[04:11] <Inphernal> jbicha: That's ok, thank you for trying
[04:11] <kyi> mount your flash drive and cp them over
[04:11] <bison> what is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:11] <harushimo> right
[04:11] <Ultimate_Chaos> cant restart form the terminal
[04:11] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need to thoiugh
[04:11] <MadRobot> Hi all
[04:11] <shcherbak> uberfrau: are you KDE?
[04:11] <Juest> sudo reboot
[04:12] <Ultimate_Chaos> how do you do it?
[04:12] <Juest> Ultimate_Chaos: try that
[04:12] <jeregon> kyi: sorry but im new were exactly is the flash drive mounted?
[04:12] <Ultimate_Chaos> ooh okau
[04:12] <kyi> it prolly will automount
[04:12] <shcherbak> Ultimate_Chaos: sudo reboot
[04:12] <pksadiq> harushimo: search for launchpad PPAs for python 2.7 for lucid
[04:12] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:12] <jeregon> kyi: ok but what directorie?
[04:12] <kyi>  /media/NAME_OF_DRIVE
[04:12] <mrl> Hi, I'm having an issue since upgrading to 11.04, my startup screen is 'Out of Range'. Wouldn't be an issue, except something is hanging during bootup, and I can't see what it is.... Is there a way to change to change the resolution in a config file etc (can use a live usb ok).
[04:12] <harushimo> ok
[04:12] <jeregon> ok
[04:12] <uberfrau> shcherbak: yes
[04:13] <jeregon> my crive is not named
[04:13] <jeregon> drive
[04:13] <Logan_> harushimo: I found a PPA, if you want to try it out: https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/deadsnakes
[04:13] <kyi> it will be called something in that directory
[04:14] <harushimo> thank you
[04:14] <tortoise> Hey, how easy is it to upgrade to 11.04 (from 10.04) without losing all of my files?
[04:14] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Can you post on paste.ubuntu.com output of: locate gedit (dont know path for plugins in kde)
[04:14] <harushimo> i'll try it out
[04:15] <harushimo> thank you
[04:15] <uberfrau> shcherbak, sure, but keep in mind i have to create the path for plugins i think
[04:15] <bison> what is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:15] <agbagb> hello!
[04:15] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Just plugin directory in right place
[04:16] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! I messed up my unity a little bit. I was playing around in CCSM and tried to enable ring-switcher. Now my top panel is just black--nothing there. Any ideas?
[04:16] <uberfrau> shcherbak, ? so you don't want the paste to see the path of gedit? or am i misunderstanding you
[04:16] <agbagb> is somebody here?
[04:16] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Yes I want
[04:16] <luigi_panache> So after upgrading the server from 10.10 to 11.04, I get a bunch of error messages concerning message of the day.
[04:16] <agbagb> please i need help :S
[04:16] <Gus81> hello, i need help for ubuntu 11.04
[04:16] <luigi_panache> Anyone know how fix that?
[04:16] <s093294> I cant change display output to hdmi, it dont show up in the monitors settings. Anyone have any idea ?
[04:16] <uberfrau> k sec
[04:17] <Juest> !guidelines | agbagb
[04:17] <Gus81> my english is very bad, i speak spanish, sorry
[04:17] <Juest> gus
[04:17] <cfedde> your english is better than my spanish.
[04:17] <Gus81> Juest, si, no consigo solucionarlo
[04:17] <sony_> how can i add application to startup at boot, there does'nt seem to be an option in system settings ps i'm on gnome 3 there is no system preference sessions
[04:17] <Juest> gus raja
[04:17] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Skip it, just cd to directory with untared pligin
[04:17] <shcherbak> *plugin
[04:18] <Juest> Gus81 PM!
[04:18] <tortoise> do I need to upgrade to 10.10 before I upgrade to 11.04?
[04:18] <agbagb> i have an issue with my monitor, when i was trying the lice cd, my monitor turns off the backlight, and i can't see anythig please help
[04:18] <luigi_panache> tortoise: AFAIK upgrading from an LTS distro always works.
[04:18] <peeps[lappy]> what is the default theme in 11.04?  I upgraded from 10.10 and having some issues with very low contrast between font and background, just wanted to see if I was using the right theme
[04:18] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! I messed up my unity a little bit. I was playing around in CCSM and tried to enable ring-switcher. Now my top panel is just black--nothing there. Any ideas? I am still able to access the buttons/info up there, just all black
[04:18] <luigi_panache> tortoise:  Or at least, it'll run
[04:19] <uberfrau> shcherbak, go to the directory which contains the tarball? o.o
[04:19] <agbagb> i have an issue with my monitor, when i was trying the live cd, my monitor turns off the backlight, and i can't see anythig please help
[04:19] <tortoise> alright, and just another question until I think of another. Does this page load for you guys http://novemberblue.-tumblr.com ? If yes, what browser/distro are you usin?
[04:19] <tortoise> using*
[04:19]  * Juest kicks Gus81
[04:19] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:20] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Rather untarred stuff, or unpask it
[04:20] <shcherbak> *unpack
[04:20] <MK```> tortoise: need to remove the dash
[04:20] <jeregon> kyi: its not in that directory
[04:20] <MadRobot> Why removing compizconfig-settings-manager from the repositories??! :S
[04:20] <uberfrau> oh
[04:20] <agbagb> i have an issue with my monitor, when i was trying the live cd, my monitor turns off the backlight, and i can't see anythig please help
[04:21] <uberfrau> shcherbak: so you meant the location of the extracted files?
[04:21] <bison> what is E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:21] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Yes
[04:21] <DingGGu> how to upgrade 10.04 to 11.04?
[04:21] <econdudeawesome> bison: I had that error a bit ago. Perhaps something has a lock on debconf?
[04:21] <uberfrau> k
[04:21] <agbagb> i have an issue with my monitor, when i was trying the live cd, my monitor turns off the backlight, and i can't see anythig please help
[04:21] <Inphernal> DingGGu: Run Update Manager
[04:21] <gartral> DingGGu: do-dist-upgrade
[04:21] <luigi_panache> tortoise: I can't get it with lynx on Ubuntu 11.04 server
[04:21] <uberfrau> k shcherbak i'm there
[04:22] <trism> MadRobot: it's in the repos
[04:22] <MadRobot> DingGGu, Trust me dude. No offense to the Ubuntu team but 11.04 simply sucks. Big time. -_-
[04:22] <sahil> can any1 help me i crashed my unity
[04:22] <zoidfarb> Hey, I'm nterested in switching from Ubuntu to Xubuntu. I've already installed xubuntu-desktop, does anyone know what gnome packages I can remove?
[04:22] <shcherbak> uberfrau: can you ls (if you see kassou... cd into it)
[04:22] <bison> econdudeawesome: did you fixed it
[04:22] <zoidfarb> Or can you give me a link for switching to Xubuntu without doing a full reinstall?
[04:22] <uberfrau> shcherbak, sec
[04:23] <MadRobot> trism, When I tried to install simple-ccsm, it said there are some unmet dependencies. That was one of them.
[04:23] <uberfrau> oh shcherbak, i am already in kassou...
[04:23] <tortoise> MK```: Then the page isn't found?
[04:23] <uberfrau> i typed cd when in the above directory, and just copy+pasted in the name of it lol
[04:23] <MK```> no it worked for me tortoise, without the dash. With the dash, 404
[04:23] <trism> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | MadRobot
[04:24] <shcherbak> uberfrau: sudo cp * /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins/
[04:24] <tortoise> MK```: Oh I just tried it with the dash. And yes it does work, however it's the wrong page.
[04:24] <uberfrau> trying, sec
[04:24] <TrevorBradley2> Help!  Whats the new keyboard command in mythbuntu 11.04 to bring up the applications menu?
[04:24] <MadRobot> trism, It's already installed??
[04:24] <tortoise> MK```: the page works fine in W7, so I just don't understand why it won't load in ubuntu?
[04:25] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:25] <shcherbak> uberfrau: thats it, you can remove makefile, and readme from /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins/ and any other stuff you downloaded.
[04:25] <trism> MadRobot: although it does appear that simple-ccsm is broken at the moment
[04:25] <dtulchin> is there a way to fix ubuntu 11.04 from the live-cd?
[04:25] <uberfrau> shcherbak: nothing happened when i did that command, other than asking me for my pw
[04:25] <econdudeawesome> For all those that read the logs and are in a similar situation: disable and reenable expo, resolve the errors in favor of expo, disable ring switcher, logout, log back in, good to go
[04:25] <MK```> no idea tortoise
[04:25] <MadRobot> trism, Oh I see.
[04:25] <econdudeawesome> toodles!
[04:25] <TrevorBradley2> Alternately, whats the keyboard command to start up the virtual mouse?
[04:25] <nit-wit> zoidfarb, take a look at this and the playing round section in the lower left. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[04:25] <nit-wit> *around
[04:26] <agbagb> Please help me. My problem is with Ubuntu 11.04, when i was trying the Live Cd / Live USB, just when the Ubuntu Splash appears, My monitor turns the backlight off, nad i can't see anything on my monitor, but if i connect another monitor to my laptop, Ubuntu loads normally, I have tried the dist-upgrade also, but i got the same issue, so i've lost my System. Please somebody can help me?
[04:26] <MadRobot> trism, it seems like everything is broken at the moment. The whole Ubuntu system is broken at the moment. :P
[04:26] <KM0201> agbagb: what is your graphics device?
[04:26] <tortoise> Does anyone have any clue why Firefox 4 won't open pages with hyphens in them on Lucid? Because I feel like I'm the only one that has ever had this issue.
[04:26] <dtulchin> is there a way to repair ubuntu 11.04 from live-cd?
[04:26] <MK```> zoidfarb: perhaps removing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, but I don't know if I can recommend that safely heh
[04:27] <KM0201> dtulchin: depends on what you need to repair
[04:27] <shcherbak> uberfrau: good, ls -l /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins/ to see your plugin
[04:27] <dtulchin> all the packages
[04:27] <agbagb> KM0201 please wait :) i'm searching
[04:27] <dtulchin> during upgrade...possible that packages got damaged
[04:27] <dtulchin> my internet fell
[04:27] <TrevorBradley2> No love for those of us  with mouseless systems, I guess.  I can't even use alt-f2 to open a terminal!?!
[04:27] <dtulchin> during the upgrade
[04:27] <uberfrau> shcherbak, i restarted gedit, and the plugin 'focus autosave' is in the list, but it's blacked out
[04:28] <nit-wit> dtulchin, what happend when hyou boot can you get a command line
[04:28] <symaxian> Is there a bug with 11.04/Unity/Nvidia 270 with using a second monitor as a separate x screen?
[04:28] <dtulchin> yes
[04:28] <linuasus6> nit-wit http://pastebin.com/rav4u1M8
[04:28] <symaxian> Twinview works but the other fails
[04:28] <nit-wit> linuasus6, cool
[04:28] <uberfrau> shcherbak, maybe the path in that command needs to be replaced with the path in the README?
[04:29] <dtulchin> everything loads fine...for some reason my sources.list didnt get updated
[04:29] <Gus81> anyone can help me?
[04:29] <MK```> zoidfarb: still there?
[04:29] <Gus81> http://imagebin.org/151094
[04:29] <Gulfstream> I am experiencing issues playing DVDs. I installed the plugin, and the video slightly works, but the image doesn't look good and the audio skips. How do I fix this?
[04:29] <Gus81> (spanish)
[04:30] <dtulchin> nit-wit: my sources list didnt get updated
[04:30] <dtulchin> nit-wit: any ideas?
[04:30] <uberfrau> Gulfstream, do you have codecs n stuff?
[04:30] <nit-wit> linuasus6, run this script and pastebin it.
[04:30] <shcherbak> uberfrau: See it, one moment
[04:30] <uberfrau> shcherbak, sure =D
[04:30] <Gulfstream> uberfrau: Yes
[04:30] <jeregon> hello can any one tell me how to copy my old server (use to be on windows seven) to my new one (ubuntu server)? (its all in a flash drive)
[04:31] <nit-wit> linuasus6, darn mouse http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:31] <uberfrau> Gulfstream: idk, i've never had issues with any file formats thus far (Kubuntu 10.10 user)
[04:31] <symaxian> easiest way to restart x?
[04:31] <dtulchin> is there a way to fix 11.04 completely?
[04:31] <uberfrau> sure it isn't your hardware?
[04:31] <Gulfstream> uberfrau: I think it may be the hardware
[04:31] <n2diy> when I mouse over a todo item in korganizer the info box displays black text on a black backround, where can I change this?
[04:31] <nit-wit> dtulchin, how do you know this you didn't answer my actual question
[04:31] <dtulchin> i can run command line
[04:32] <Gulfstream> uberfrau: should I try to clean the lense?
[04:32] <TrevorBradley2> Is there a new list of keyboard shortcuts for 11.04 somewhere?
[04:32] <nit-wit> dtulchin, cool can you actually boot in?
[04:32] <dtulchin> yes
[04:32] <uberfrau> Gulfstream: you could try playing the same sort of stuff with a different distro
[04:32] <dtulchin> nit-wit: yes
[04:32] <uberfrau> and idk about lense cleaning, so I can't advise you on that
[04:32] <Gulfstream> uberfrau: the video didn't work no matter which movie or OS
[04:33] <TrevorBradley2> The only shortcut I can seem to get working in mythbuntu is alt-f4 to log out of the system.
[04:33] <uberfrau> oh, then that is a strong indication that it is hardware
[04:33] <nit-wit> dtulchin, so are you sure it actually started to load the upgrade and didn't fail at the download
[04:33] <Gulfstream> yes
[04:33] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:33] <agbagb> KM0201 i have Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 4500MHD adapter
[04:33] <dtulchin> nit-wit: it failed during the downloading of the upgrade
[04:33] <linuasus6> nit-wit is example script with what I replace it
[04:34] <dtulchin> nit-wit: i then restarted it and finished
[04:34] <uberfrau> try to see if there is any sort of pattern to the disruption to the video, and see if it matches commonly reported symptoms of issues online. That's all i can say really, i'm no expert, i just read a lot of random information.
[04:34] <agbagb> my laptop is a Acer eMachines E525-902G16Mi
[04:34] <KM0201> agbagb: i'm not sur eon that device, i kinda thought intels "just worked" w/ linux (at least mine does)
[04:34] <TrevorBradley2> ping check, is my irc working at all?? :)
[04:34] <nit-wit> linuasus6, the bootscript is run to generate a text file to pastebin
[04:35] <Inphernal> TrevorBradley2: We see you
[04:35] <TrevorBradley2> Thanks Inphernal.
[04:35] <nit-wit> dtulchin, cool I was just going to give you a command to inlock t and finish hopefully.;)
[04:35] <nit-wit> *unlock
[04:35] <TrevorBradley2> I'm a sad narwhal today I guess. :(
[04:35] <linuasus6> nit-wit so I download the thing
[04:36] <ohsix> o hai
[04:36] <sahil> my unity crashed no help from irc either!
[04:36] <agbagb> KM 0201 mmm but its so odd that issue, any suggestions?
[04:36] <sahil> :(
[04:36] <dtulchin> nit-wit: when i boot from the cd, i get options: try ubuntu, and install ubuntu...nothing about repairing ubuntu
[04:36] <agbagb> KM0201 mmm but its so odd that issue, any suggestions?
[04:36] <nit-wit> linuasus6, yeah download the script on the live cd drag it to the desktop and run this command.sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh
[04:36] <KM0201> agbagb: you can try starting the kernel w/ some variables, like maybe nomodset   or something lik,e that, see if that gets your display to work
[04:36] <KM0201> !nomodset
[04:36] <KM0201> oops
[04:37] <nit-wit> linuasus6, opps this command sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script*.sh
[04:37] <nit-wit> dtulchin, I thought it was fixed
[04:37] <shcherbak> uberfrau: OK, plugin do not load, will try to find different version, Don't you want to use vim?
[04:37] <dtulchin> nit-wit: i am running a damaged 11.04
[04:38] <TrevorBradley2> I'm wondering if I screwed up the install over keyboard shortcuts not working... Is it abnormal for them not to be?
[04:38] <DingGGu> gartral: end?
[04:38] <nit-wit> dtulchin, there is no real repair for a whole system, you may need to just back it up or use the UBuntu Forums to be honest I wont really touch it to many outlires
[04:38] <annath> ok. I just installed 11.04 and I already broke unity. >_< I tried to enable desktop cube through compiz-config. broke some stuff. Tried to reset back to defaults using that, and now I can't seem to get the top/side bars back. I can get windows to come up by using different methods such as creating launchers on my desktop, so I've got chrome and a terminal, but I can't get the top and side bars to show up again
[04:38] <linuasus6> nit-wit http://pastebin.com/zHNd4DTf
[04:38] <annath> :(
[04:39] <nit-wit> linuasus6, cool hold on
[04:39] <uberfrau> shcherbak, plugin didn't load, what do you mean? :o and idk about using vim yet, while I'm still learning to program :/
[04:39] <shcherbak> uberfrau: And have bug: http://mailrepository.com/desktop-bugs.lists.ubuntu.com/msg/3519748/
[04:40] <linuasus6> is 6 years I use ubuntu but they change 4 time the grub, thank for helping nit-wit
[04:40] <TrevorBradley2> Guess I've got to figure this one one on my own... :(  thanks for your ti,e
[04:40] <uberfrau> shcherbak, oh...this plugin was featured in a link from the official ubuntu site, under the entry for gedit :(
[04:40] <alien-007> my empathy dont have the option to save or not save logs,,can i upgrade,,is not on sypnatic
[04:41] <Adys> can anyone running chrome pastebin me their /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list? I lost mine
[04:41] <dtulchin> nit-wit: thats dissapointing
[04:41] <alien-007> it just save logs,,i dont like that at all,,can i add repository for empathy in sypnatic so i can get an update
[04:41] <dtulchin> nit-wit: so my only other option is to reinstall an entire os?
[04:41] <uberfrau> shcherbak, this plugin isn't critical, it was more about the process of learning how to install plugins, which i sort of know how to do now (though i haven't created the requisite directory yet)
[04:42] <duckx0r> i have a computer running ubuntu 10.10 on it and it was working fine up until a few days ago when the USB keyboard stopped working however it does work in the BIOS. How can I troubleshoot this?
[04:42] <uberfrau> if you could find another plugin that does the same thing, i would love it, however
[04:42] <dtulchin> duckx0r: is it a desktop or laptop?
[04:42] <uberfrau> and should i look into vim? ;o
[04:42] <shcherbak> uberfrau: Well, this one was fatal...
[04:42] <nit-wit> dtulchin, reload or wait for help that may not appear the IRC is sort of specialized for specifics, the forums may be motr helpful
[04:42] <duckx0r> dtulchin, desktop
[04:43] <uberfrau> shcherbak, well it shouldn't be featured on that site then D:
[04:43] <dtulchin> duckx0r: have you recently upgraded anything in your computer?
[04:43] <Name141> How do I install flash on AMD 64bit ?
[04:43] <duckx0r> dtulchin, nothing for months
[04:43] <zoidfarb> MK``, removing that meta-package doesn't automatically remove the things it depends on
[04:43] <linuasus6> nit-wit nice this script I have see something similar for grub but not like that
[04:43] <uberfrau> and the reason i'm not using a fully featured environment is that i want to learn how to just focus on the code with a plain text-editor first...
[04:43] <dtulchin> duckx0r: try a different usb port
[04:43] <nit-wit> linuasus6, I don't see the OS in sdc5 but the grub menu is there I am not sure what is going on, you may want to opost the script at the Ubuntu forums if you get no answers here.
[04:43] <shcherbak> uberfrau: That may be version problem
[04:43] <duckx0r> dtulchin, yes
[04:44] <Name141> !flash
[04:44] <linuasus6> nit-wit theres no os on sdc5 is a /boot partitions
[04:44] <Inphernal> http://www.blizzhackers.cc/viewtopic.php?t=448729
[04:44] <Inphernal> Oops, sorry lol
[04:45] <uberfrau> shcherbak, i have no idea
[04:45] <nit-wit> linuasus6, why are you using a boot partition
[04:45] <uberfrau> i did just spend almost 3 hours trying to do this :(
[04:45] <duckx0r> dtulchin, i just switched to tty1 and I see that error messages about USB are being spit out every 10 seconds or so
[04:45] <uberfrau> at least i learned a couple of things about the file system :/
[04:45] <linuasus6> because this external disk when I plug to every pc I can boot on linux
[04:45] <freaky[t]> hi all. how can i put a java application into my launcher somewhere?
[04:46] <jetole> Hey guys. I just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and I don't know if I am in unity or gnome3 but does anyone know how I can revert to gnome2 / the gnome I had before the upgrade?
[04:46] <freaky[t]> jetole: log out and then select ubuntu classic in gdm on the bottom
[04:46] <freaky[t]> and then log back in
[04:46] <jetole> freaky[t]: thanks. Let me try
[04:47] <linuasus6> jetole no upgrade isnt reversible
[04:47] <thebigham> How can i find the mouse # for the buttons on my mouse?
[04:47] <uberfrau> shcherbak, thanks for the help anyhoo. I'm using pidgin, and i'm going to leave this open as a tab  in case i have any questions =)
[04:47] <duckx0r> dtulchin, looks like it's probably a hardware problem, unfortunately
[04:48] <nit-wit> linuasus6, I'm not familiar with boot partitions, but in the partition has to be the grub files normally in the OS, basically.
[04:48] <fr00g> I'm using Unity 2D, can anybody tell me if it's possible to enable a full screen Dash?
[04:48] <jetole> freaky[t]: thank god that did the trick
[04:48] <jetole> linuasus6: see freaky[t]'s comment
[04:48]  * vultraz has found some 11.04 bugs
[04:48] <vultraz> who to talk to
[04:48] <huynh98> Hi. I have a quick question. Is there any way to improve the predictability search results for alt-f2 for executables. It seems to have gotten worse from 10.10 to 11.04
[04:49] <freaky[t]> jetole: np ;D
[04:49] <huynh98> predictability of*
[04:49] <jetole> freaky[t]: seriously. That freaked me out. I knew ubuntu was moving to unity but I kind of didn't expect a change on upgrades
[04:49] <abhinav> jetole: actually gnome3 upgrade isn't reversible. But 11.04 doesn't upgrade your gnome 2 go gnome3 by default. Gnome3 can be installed only by adding PPA
[04:49] <moonchild> hey guys
[04:49] <linuasus6> nit-wit so what I do reinstall ubuntu so I will have a new grub
[04:49] <dreamon> Hello. since update to natty getting -> resume: could not stat the resume device file /dev/sdb7 -> thats right swap is /dev/sda7 -> changed /etc/fstab and /etc/uswsusp.conf to correct path.but still brings at boot /dev/sdb7 .. confused
[04:49] <moonchild> I have a couple of questions about the new version of ubuntu
[04:49] <freaky[t]> jetole: ;)
[04:50] <bimble> I have a problem that my box won't come out of suspend:  (11.04)  box powers up, but no response from screen or keyboard/mouse.  Havn't found a solution yet, has anyone seen similar?
[04:50] <jetole> abhinav: thats fascinating not that I asked
[04:50] <moonchild> specifically whether it is possible to disable the global menu bar while using the unity UI
[04:50] <jetole> I don't get it. freaky[t] answered my question followed by two people who seem to think it couldn't be done. weird
[04:50] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[04:51] <vultraz> where do i report 11.04 bugs?
[04:51] <freaky[t]> jetole: ;)
[04:52] <nit-wit> linuasus6, no but it is hard to tell what is actually there a lot is missing, you will really be best served at the Ubuntu forums.
[04:52] <freaky[t]> vultraz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[04:52] <jetole> Inphernal: run this and tell me if you get results: dpkg --get-selections | sed -e '/hold$/!d'
[04:52] <moonchild> can anyone tell me if its possible, or link me to instructions on how to disable the global menubar piece of unity?
[04:53] <abhinav> jetole, was just clarifying that we *can* revert from unity to gnome-2 as folks have mentioned - which is what a lot of us have done first thing after upgrading. Both unity and gnome2 are installed. However, if we upgrade that gnome2 to gnome3, then unity is broken, plus gnome3 cannot be easily moved back to gnome2. (This is for your as well as other's benefit, as I had the same confusion couple of days back)
[04:53] <nit-wit> linuasus6, take a lok at my set up you will see what  mean. http://pastebin.com/XaJeWzgr
[04:53] <Inphernal> jetole: Nothing
[04:54] <Name141> !nvidia
[04:54] <jetole> Inphernal: well that was just checking for any packages on your system which may have had a hold on them so if nothing then I don't know what the next step would be to debug it
[04:55] <moonchild> I actually do want to kick the tires on unity, but *don't* want it to feel more like OSX than widows
[04:55] <abhinav> personally the worst thing that unity did was remove the properly working gnome-panel with some broken stuff, and moreover, super-space (which was my gnome-do shortcut) was broken.
[04:55] <jetole> Inphernal: on the other hand, you would have got one line for every package with a hold so we would have known what to remove the hold from but since you got nothing then not sure
[04:55] <Name141> what's the nvidia package?
[04:55] <Name141> nvidia-latest ?
[04:55] <Inphernal> jetole: =[
[04:55] <Name141> never mind I just got it from 'other drivers'
[04:56] <s093294> anyone who resolved the issue with i915 not detecting hdmi port ?
[04:56] <jetole> Name141: for 11.04 it's nvidia-current but I would install the binary from nvidia. Ubuntu is always behind on the latest nvidia driver
[04:56] <Inphernal> jetole: Someone told me it could be my PPAs? But they weren't sure how to check?
[04:56] <Guest29994> I am a high school student. We went to hold a speech (or call a party)to introduce ubuntu/linux.Could you give me some advice?
[04:57] <linuasus6> nit-wit you got 2 grub
[04:57] <nit-wit> linuasus6, you mean the sda6 burg
[04:57] <vultraz> new GRUB seems to send signal to the numlock key to turn it on at boot
[04:57] <jetole> Inphernal: and neither am I so good luck and hope someone else has a... wait, ppa, I thought you meant ppc for a sec, no I don't think that would be it. third party repos are automatically disabled during the upgrade
[04:57] <moonchild> Guest29994: I'd start by telling people everywhere that linux actually runs
[04:57] <vultraz> so it's hard to enter a password
[04:57] <Name141> jetole: how do I install it from the repos
[04:57] <vultraz> on a laptop keybpard
[04:57] <jetole> Inphernal: meaning ppa's are automatially disabled during the upgrade
[04:57] <bimble> how do I roll back from 11 to 10?
[04:58] <vultraz> because most keys get locked
[04:58] <n2diy> when I mouse over a todo item in korganizer the info box displays black text on a black backround, where can I change this?
[04:58] <linuasus6> nit-wit no sda5 sda9
[04:58] <moonchild> Guest29994: start with something like 'its in your android phone, in your wireless router, yada, yada'
[04:58] <tortoise> I'm currently running Windows Vista on one partition and Lucid on another. Could anybody link me to a decent guide for upgrading to 11.04 without ruining that?
[04:59] <jetole> Name141: what I meant is I wouldn't install it from the repos if I were you since ubuntu usually doesn't have the latest. go to nvidia.com and download the linux driver. If you really want to install it from the repos which is the ubuntu version then type: sudo apt-get install nvidia-common
[04:59] <Inphernal> jetloe: Allright, I'll keep looking. Thank you
[04:59] <vultraz> also sometimes it turns on mute and I have to shutdown and turnon
[04:59] <vultraz> turn on*
[05:00] <jetole> Inphernal: keep in mind we have determined two things. It isn't a package on hold and it isn't a ppa. At least you're narrowing the list of what it could be
[05:00] <nit-wit> linuasus6, not sure I understand sda5 is xubuntu natty sda9 in oneiric
[05:00] <Guest29994> Oh,how to introduce where Linux better than of different form Windows
[05:00] <george57> I just upgraded. I dont see unity anywhere. I assume I have to have it run at start up?
[05:00] <jetole> Guest29994: what?
[05:01] <vultraz> also yesterday at boot Unity disappeared and I got the non-unity 10.10 interface
[05:01] <sahil> can ny1 help?my unity crashed after i messed with gdm
[05:01] <Guest29994> sorry,wrong
[05:01] <vultraz> why is natty so buggy?
[05:01] <meLon> Next time wait a few months, vultraz :P\
[05:01] <jetole> vultraz: because it was just released
[05:01] <Guest29994> Oh,how to introduce where Linux better than or different form Windows
[05:01] <vultraz> :P
[05:01] <jetole> vultraz: if you want stable your best bet is 10.04.02
[05:02] <nit-wit> linuasus6, brb
[05:02]  * vultraz likes devel version
[05:02]  * vultraz doesn't like 10.04
[05:02] <meLon> devel = bug, vultraz .  #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:02] <linuasus6> nit-wit ok Im stuck anyway
[05:02] <vultraz> ;)
[05:02] <jetole> vultraz: 10.04 is stable. 11.04 is not devel.
[05:02] <waKKu> hi folks..
[05:02] <waKKu> helps to debug this problem: http://pastebin.com/Pw3qd8SV ? ...
[05:02] <jetole> vultraz: long story short I don't care if you like 10.04 or not. You asked for stable
[05:03] <waKKu> how can i see where the script is failing ?
[05:03] <jetole> vultraz: and if you like the dev version then expect it to be unstable
[05:03]  * vultraz does, just not this much
[05:03] <Guest29994> I think linux is designed for science
[05:03] <karthick87> When ever i access a windows machine through VNC from ubuntu. The icon changes and notifies the user that someone is logged into the system.Is it possible to hide that notification?
[05:03] <vultraz> Guest29994; lol
[05:04] <jetole> 11.04 is a final release / not a dev version but it's also very new. It has passed beta and all the RC but I bet in the next 18 months of it's life it will receive thousands of patches
[05:04] <celthunder> karthick87: that's a security feature.
[05:04] <KM0201> karthick87: that would be a setting on the windows machine i imagine.. not sure you can disable it though
[05:04] <vultraz> jetole: I think so too
[05:04] <Inphernal> jetole: Yeah, slowly
[05:04] <Guest29994> am i wrong?
[05:04] <jetole> vultraz: so now you know why it's not "stable"
[05:05] <vultraz> jetole: ya
[05:05] <vultraz> jetole: we'll probably have 11.10 before 11.04 is really stable
[05:05] <Name141> is there something to 'benchmark' the cpu rather than just stress it like stress --cpu 8 , ?
[05:05] <vultraz> anyway I don't mind it has nice interface
[05:05] <Max-P> Hi, does anyone know how to grow a partition directly in the partition table? A resize on my ext4 partition failed, the superblock says a size, but the partition is a block smaller in the MBR. Ideas? Thanks
[05:06] <jetole> vultraz: I run 10.04 on all of the servers I manage, on my home desktop and on my laptop and am running, as of 20 minutes ago 11.04 on my office workstation. 10.04 is pretty damned good IMHO and only a idiot would run 10.10, 11.04 or 11.10 on a server
[05:06] <nit-wit> linuasus6, I have a arch install that has grub legacy but chainloadda with grub2 automatically.
[05:06] <jetole> vultraz: 10.04 is LTS or long term support release which comes out every two years and is designed to be stable from the ground up. The downside is it doesn't always have the latest software
[05:07] <jetole> I'm going for a smoke. be back in 10
[05:07]  * vultraz has 10.04 and 11.04 on two partitions
[05:09] <MK```> sorry for the delay zoidfarb, you can check out: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[05:09] <Pascalcmoi> lookin at askubuntu and ubuntuforum what i can see is that 11.04 have A LOT of bugs
[05:09] <pamela> could someone please help me figure out how to run a terminal command at startup every time i boot?
[05:09] <DingGGu> help me for install mod_cband T.T
[05:10] <celthunder> pamela: .bashrc or .profile or in inittab
[05:10] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[05:10] <celthunder> pamela: depending on the command and who you want to run it as and at what init level
[05:10] <Pascalcmoi> 11.04 seems A LOT buggy...
[05:10] <pamela> i start conky with a terminal command due to the theme im using with it, i just want it to startup with my system
[05:10] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: so start submitting bug reports
[05:11] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: did you update
[05:12] <pamela> celthunder, im looking for step by step help please, im a little new to this
[05:12] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: i don't even look at my ubuntu comp...it's a server and i havn't touched it other than to fix a thing or two ...i use arch day to day
[05:12] <celthunder> pamela: probably in your gui's startup scripts then
[05:13] <Pascalcmoi> anyone having problem with 11.04
[05:13] <MK```> Pascalcmoi: that's what this channel is for :P
[05:13] <MK```> pamela: before X starts?
[05:13] <pamela> celthunder, im sorry, but that doesnt really mean anything to me...
[05:13] <MK```> or during
[05:14] <pamela> mk``` after boot, once everything up, i just want to send a terminal command automatically
[05:14] <celthunder> pamela: add it to your .xinitrc
[05:14] <nit-wit> pamela, startup application conky in the command line
[05:15] <pamela> celthunder, i appreciate your help but could you please assume im going to ask "how" after everything you say...?
[05:15] <MK```> I was just going to suggest xinit
[05:15] <celthunder> pamela: open a terminal nano ~/.xinitrc find the uncommented line (the one not starting with a #) and add your conky line before that one
[05:15] <Jordan_U> linuasus6: Follow this guide for re-installing grub: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[05:16] <B_K_N> celthunder: how to change time in xubuntu?
[05:16] <celthunder> B_K_N: ntp
[05:17] <pamela> celthunder, i typed "nano ~/.xinitrc" and i have a black file  looking thing
[05:17] <ubuntuguy> What code do I put in the terminal to use ibam?
[05:17] <pamela> celthunder, and there is nothing in it
[05:18] <Mrokii> Hello. I have switched to Ubuntu Classic in 11.04. Is there a way to activate the global menu there as well (like in Unity)?
[05:18] <celthunder> well assuming you want the right time ntp and set your timezone in sysconfig/tzdata
[05:18] <dFshadow> anyone got unity working properly within VMWare on a Macbook?
[05:19] <newb_> hello! I'm with the new Gnome3 in my ubuntu (I'm was here some time ago), but how can I change my window theme now? I can't find the option at gnome control center, my fonts are horrible and my wintow theme is worse...
[05:19] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello?
[05:19] <MK```> pamela: one moment
[05:19] <celthunder> pamela: try adding it to .bashrc or .profile then
[05:20] <Ultimate_Chaos> i m here to ask about any optional system updates
[05:20] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[05:20] <HomuHomuHomura> Can I recover my ubuntu by selecting the upgrade installation in tke live cd install?
[05:20] <celthunder> HomuHomuHomura: depends what's broken
[05:21] <celthunder> Inphernal: so what packages are being held
[05:21] <jetole> celthunder: no packages are being held. I already made him do a check
[05:21] <MK```> pamela: copy the xinitrc file in /etc/X11/xinit to ~/.xinitrc, that is the default file it uses if there is none in ~
[05:22] <celthunder> jetole: ok
[05:22] <HomuHomuHomura> hello
[05:22] <MK```> then add your line
[05:22] <celthunder> thanks MK```
[05:22] <Pascalcmoi> I installed ratpoison and i cant see any dropdown box or orther widget to choose a different window manager
[05:22] <Pascalcmoi> in 11.04
[05:23] <celthunder> Inphernal: jetole did you md5 your packages, any of them just crashing out? what happens if you install a few at a time
[05:23] <nit-wit> pamela, you can open startup application hit add name it put conky in the command and your done.
[05:23] <HomuHomuHomura> what do you mean by broken?
[05:23] <celthunder> HomuHomuHomura: uhm what're you recovering from
[05:23] <celthunder> if you're recovering something i'm assuming something is broken
[05:24] <MK```> Pascalcmoi: did you install it from the software center?
[05:24] <HomuHomuHomura> a failed upgrade on ubuntu
[05:24] <jetole> celthunder: As far as I helped was I made him check for held packages (dpkg --get-selections | sed -e '/\thold$/!d') and confirmed that PPA was not the issue since upgrade disabled third party repos when you upgrade
[05:24] <celthunder> HomuHomuHomura: then yeah
[05:24] <Secluded1> anyone had a problem with libreoffice? i used lo-globalmenu in 11.04, problem is the window menu is gone in the global menu in libreoffice calc, but when i removed lo-globalmenu, it returned!!!
[05:24] <Pascalcmoi> MK```: with apt-get
[05:24] <MK```> hm. have you tried running it from a terminal to make sure it is installed correctly?
[05:24] <jetole> celthunder: and that's as involved as I got
[05:25] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I'm having some troubles with my Intel video card... I did a hardware test, and it says that it uses the Nouveau driver instead of the Intel driver... What can I do to fix this error?
[05:25] <celthunder> jetole: ok sorry for highlighting you then
[05:25] <jetole> celthunder: np
[05:25] <newb_> And finally, I'm running gnome-shell or unity?  I think is g-s,  but the activities panel is strange from default gnome-shell....
[05:25] <celthunder> JoseeAntonioR: rmmod <whatever nvidia driver is loaded< modprobe i915 or whatever intel driver applies
[05:26] <Pascalcmoi> MK```: it echo ==> ratpoison: There can be only ONE.
[05:26] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: if you are using /etc/X11/xorg.conf then you can edit that file. Ubuntu also has another means for configuring this but I don't know what it is since I use a pretty custom xorg.conf myself
[05:27] <jetole> celthunder: rmmod shouldn't apply. In order for the card to use it, part of X has to invoke it which means it should be reloaded next time he starts X
[05:27] <MK```> Pascalcmoi: run ratpoison --replace
[05:27] <jetole> celthunder: for example if I have Nouvou listed in xorg.conf then it will load that driver each time I start X
[05:27] <celthunder> jetole: eh it'd fix it for the current session at least
[05:27] <JoseeAntonioR> celthunder It says module i915 is in use
[05:27] <b1j3n1s3v> can someone point me in the direction I need to go to learn about 54e?
[05:27] <jetole> celthunder: nah X needs the driver when it starts. You can't really change the driver mid session
[05:27] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole I don't use xorg.conf because it gives me a lot of problems.
[05:28] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: well this isn't one of them. lol
[05:28] <Pascalcmoi> MK```: unrecognize option
[05:28] <celthunder> JoseeAntonioR: blacklist the module you don't want
[05:28] <celthunder> and it won't load it
[05:28] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: http://goo.gl/72RPO
[05:28] <JoseeAntonioR> celthunder The problem is that i don't know what module i don't want...
[05:28] <ketan-tada> how to add taskbar in ubuntu 11.04
[05:29] <MK```> not sure Pascalcmoi :( I do not use ratpoison
[05:29] <MK```> you'd need to kill your current wm and then run it
[05:29] <sly> Okay, guys..
[05:29] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: the module is nouveau but blacklisting probably won't help either. Sorry celthunder. I'm not trying to step on your feet here
[05:30] <oneliner> can the unity bar get corny widgets like the gnome eyes?
[05:30] <sly> I added ~/.pulse/client.conf, and disabled autospawn for Pulseaudio, so ALSA could take over for it.
[05:30] <Pascalcmoi> MK```: it like if i cant choose any other window manager even if they are installed
[05:30] <sly> ALSA works fine, but it's not showing anything in sound preferences on Ubuntu.
[05:30] <jetole> celthunder: the problem is that X thinks it should use this driver so we need for X to think it should use the proper one
[05:30] <Inphernal> celthunder: I check, I don't think there's any
[05:30] <celthunder> jetole: fine by me lol i'm just listing off solutionsas thhey occur...i set every module i want loaded on boot and blacklisted the rest
[05:30] <oneliner> or more practical ones like the system graph with cpu usage real time display?
[05:30] <sly> Anyone have any idea on how to fix that?
[05:30] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole celthunder And what can I do? Creating and editing xorg.conf worked in 10.10, but it doesn't anymore...
[05:30] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: run: sudo lspci
[05:30] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: then put that on pastebin.com and send me the link
[05:30] <billytwowilly> can anyone point me to a howto get get aac support working in gtkpod in natty?
[05:31] <sahil> m fucked!
[05:31] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: xorg.conf works in 11.04. I am using it now
[05:31] <celthunder> sly: try alsamixer
[05:31] <jetole> xorg.conf should always work and should always be the over ride afaik
[05:31] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole But for me it doesn't ): http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601601/
[05:31] <sly> celthunder: I know that.. but is there a way to get it to where Ubuntu will show it in the sound menu again?
[05:31] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: xorg.conf still works in 11.04
[05:31] <MK```> Pascalcmoi: I do not use ratpoison, the wms I use all support replace
[05:32] <sly> Because I can't use my multimedia keys to turn the volume up & down without it working.
[05:32] <Inphernal> celthunder: Any idea what else I should check?
[05:32] <linuasus6> thank Jordan_U it look like it will work let see I will restart
[05:32] <celthunder> Inphernal: no not really sorry
[05:32] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: can you restate what you're trying to do for me?
[05:32] <billytwowilly> !aac
[05:32] <ejv> need sugegstions (not urgent) i'm getting TWO, not one, TWO "welcome to ubuntu server" message blocks upon login over ssh. what has gone wrong?
[05:32] <ejv> suggestions* even
[05:32] <MK```> Pascalcmoi: I need to leave, sorry :( hopefully someone else can help you
[05:33] <Pascalcmoi> np MK``` thanks
[05:33] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: what's your issue sorry wasn't reading
[05:33] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix I did a hardware test, and it said it was using the Nouveau driver, but I have an Intel chipset, so I want to use the Intel driver.
[05:33] <celthunder> sly: ok what gui are you using?
[05:33] <celthunder> sly: and what's your default audio controller alsa or pulse?
[05:34] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: sudo lspci -n | sed -e '/00:02\.0/!d'
[05:34] <jetole> then paste that one line
[05:34] <celthunder> and either way i'm fairly sure your multimedia keys shouldn't be affected by which...
[05:34] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: that's really odd, your server is running right now with the nouveau driver?
[05:34] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: well, i installed another wm (ratpoison) and compiz-gnome package is installed but gdm do not give me choice
[05:34] <sly> I just changed it to use ALSA as default.
[05:34] <Pascalcmoi> only username/password
[05:34] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: oh that's easy
[05:34] <celthunder> add a .desktop file
[05:35] <abhinav_> hi guys, does anyone know how to increase drive size by decreasing another dirve's size?
[05:35] <celthunder> for ratpoison
[05:35] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix I'm using Ubuntu Desktop.
[05:35] <sly> But when I go to "sound preferences", it says "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[05:35] <celthunder> abhinav_: partition resize
[05:35] <jetole> abhinav_: yes I do and it's usually not easy
[05:35] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: open a terminal and run glxinfo, copy its output to paste.ubuntu.com
[05:35] <celthunder> sly: is something else locking up audio device? (fuser /dev/snd
[05:35] <Juest> sly: check that there aren't multiple sound servers running
[05:35] <Syrinx_`> abhinav_: you have to unmount both drives, and resize them
[05:35] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601603/
[05:35] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: you mean 'touch ~/.desktop'
[05:35] <InHisName> I was upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10 and just before done accidently went into reboot.
[05:36] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: no you have to make one one sec
[05:36] <illmortal> Hey guys... after the update from 10.10 to 11.04.. my dual monitors are not being recognized correctly. They're seen as one large screen... how do I get it to detect correctly outside of the display settings manager?
[05:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> so much people
[05:36] <InHisName> Well, I did sudo dpkg --configure -d     then followed with sudo apt-get -d install  or something like that.   All clean....
[05:36] <sly> Juest: I made the ~/.pulse/client.conf with autospawn=no that is supposed to disable it from autospawning itself.
[05:36] <sly> celthunder, not that I'm aware of. Pulse is supposed to be completely disabled, afaik.
[05:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> i didnt see the response to my question
[05:36] <Juest> well, you frogetting to disable service
[05:36] <Juest> try to stop service
[05:36] <InHisName> Now when I reboot normal,   choose 2.6.35-28 and big UBUNTU print on screen with cycling red dots under it.   3-7 seconds.  Then screen cycles  out-sync---in-sync   3x     THEN nothing more for very long time  30 minutes ?   Why wont it finish booting ?
[05:36] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601605/
[05:36] <Juest> also, pluseaudio runs in per-user mode
[05:37] <linuasus6> thank nit-wit will see now if is work by restart
[05:37] <Juest> and randomsound must be enabled
[05:37] <InHisName>  can boot in recovery to a login prompt.   But no gui works.   Keyboard seem disabled when starting gui then hangs only powerbutton shutdown works.
[05:37] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: ok so do this vi /usr/share/xsessions/ratpoison.desktop
[05:37] <illmortal> same here InHisName... I hit ALT+CTRL+DEL and it reboots instantly.. then I choose, "previous version" and it loads 11.04 anyways o.O;
[05:37] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[05:38] <newb_> ops, closed wrong window
[05:38] <InHisName> illmortal: my keyboard does not work, so only pwr button can shutdown.
[05:38] <illmortal> ew ><;
[05:38] <sly> Wow. That was lagtastic.
[05:38] <sly> Did you guys get my last messages?
[05:39] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: and then add this text to it http://pastebin.com/Scs4N6Zy
[05:39] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: replace the executable line
[05:39] <sly> celthunder, did you get my last message to you?
[05:39] <Ultimate_Chaos> nneds to seperate the rooms
[05:39] <Ultimate_Chaos> that ubuntu is numbered
[05:39] <meganerd> what generates the system status when you log in via ssh?
[05:39] <Ultimate_Chaos> less in one channel
[05:40] <newb_> Now I'm really confused about gnome3 here. I can't change my fonts? And about the window theme? This here is gnome-shell or unity? or both? My applications place it's different frrom official gnome-shell, but all the other things sounds like it...
[05:40] <celthunder> meganerd: it's in /etc/issue /etc/motd and /etc/banner or whatever files are mentioned in your sshd config
[05:40] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: I was installing xfce and it do not appear in the gdm screen
[05:40] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: ok you aren't using nouveau, or the intel driver; where did you read that it was using the nouveau driver?
[05:40] <celthunder> sly: ok
[05:40] <illmortal> man it's weird being borderless lol.. I gotta get used to this.
[05:41] <newb_> MustardCU1, KM0201, shcherbak, escott: you here?
[05:41] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: so change it to xfce ...
[05:41] <meganerd> celthunder: no, I am referring to the system status, mounted partitions, number of updates etc.
[05:41] <Zenguy_pc> how can I create a encrypted partition for /tmp or any other folder?
[05:41] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: i cant there is no place in the screen to choose that
[05:41] <celthunder> meganerd: yeah...it's a script in /etc/ that sshd calls
[05:41] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: add the file i just told you to..if it doesn't exist...
[05:42] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: sudo lsmod | grep -e 'i[89]'
[05:42] <meganerd> celthunder: where?  It is not in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:42] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix I did System Testing, and in the results it said that I was using nouveau driver.
[05:42] <KM0201> newb_:
[05:42] <KM0201> ?
[05:42] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: wow, you mean it the new way to use more than one wm in the 11.04? wtf
[05:42] <Pascalcmoi> it like 'forcing us to use unity'
[05:42] <sheldon> could someone tell me how to get a menu on my secondary Xscreen? after I upgraded to 11.04 it went away, and now there is only a couple icons on that screen
[05:42] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: idk
[05:42] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601608/
[05:43] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: odd, that might be a bug in system testing; theres no visible to the OS nvidia card in there
[05:43] <celthunder> and meganerd i edited it out on my server...i forgot where...it was in /etc though
[05:43] <illmortal> lol sheldon im in the same situation with that as well
[05:43] <InHisName> HOW TO finish upgrading to 10.10 where the gui portion hangs ?   I can login text mode in recovery.
[05:43] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix But my general problem is that my monitor isn't detected. I cannot change my resolution, it's stuck in 1024x768
[05:43] <illmortal> i have dual monitors... but the right monitor is acting as the main.. and my display manager is claiming i have 1 large screen instead of two <_<
[05:43] <newb_> KM0201: Today you told me some info about install gnome3 here. I have it now, but I want confirm what is happening. I don't know if I'm running unity or shell. Do you have gnome3 yet?
[05:44] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: i just listed a possible solution if it doesn't work...oh well...if it does...yay
[05:44] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: sudo modprobe i810
[05:44] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: just tell me if it gives you an error or anything
[05:44] <KM0201> newb_: no,, i removed it cuz it caused so many problems.. you should be able to tell the difference between unity and gnome-shell
[05:44] <celthunder> newb_: ps x |grep gnome-shell
[05:44] <celthunder> jetole: he said he was using i915
[05:44] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: well i see it now, thanks a lot for your time
[05:44] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: i see that theres only software rendering going on, so likely no gpu drivers are being loaded, did you boot with nomodeset or do anything related?
[05:44] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: last question
[05:44] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: ok so it worked?
[05:45] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole Nothing.
[05:45] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: yes xfce is there now
[05:45] <celthunder> kk
[05:45] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix I did a normal boot.
[05:45] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: oh nevermind, thats i810 hw
[05:45] <ohsix> Jettis: afaik i915 still handles i810 on the kernel side
[05:45] <jetole> celthunder: I must have missed that part as I was looking into his problem. JoseeAntonioR so you're problem is resolved?
[05:45] <ohsix> jetole: ^
[05:45] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: on unity i cant use ctrl+alt+fkey to switch between terminal... this sequence is capted by unity
[05:46] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: idk unbind it in unity...i use xmonad...so i don't have that issue
[05:46] <illmortal> I wonder if my 11.04 is hanging due to video card drivers..
[05:46] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: all i've heard about i810 is it not really working for 3d or anything as of the last year or two; i don't know what to say
[05:46] <hoss> Can someone tell me how to make compiz-fusion run automatically?  As of right now I have to run the icon and then reload the window manager every time I boot.  I know that I can put the icon in the startup list but will I still have to reload the window manager?
[05:46] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: ok thanks!
[05:46] <celthunder> ohsix: i810 can work for 3d...kms is broken though
[05:46] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: last another question hehe
[05:46] <jetole> ohsix: yeah I have read that his card is i810 and I have also read that there are a list of issues with i810
[05:47] <JoseeAntonioR> jetole ohsix Do I need to restart X to see if there are any changes?
[05:47] <jetole> JoseeAntonioR: you can try
[05:47] <celthunder> ohsix: jetole JoseeAntonioR disable kms?
[05:47] <ohsix> celthunder: that may have been true 2 years ago (before support for anything but kms was dropped in the intel drivers)
[05:47] <JoseeAntonioR> celthunder How do I do that?
[05:48] <ohsix> i810 might still be a special case but i don't think so
[05:48] <jetole> celthunder: thats an option but I don't think it applies though I could be wrong
[05:48] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll try restarting X
[05:48] <celthunder> ohsix: ok i stopped using that comp a while ago...was just a remembering
[05:48] <newb_> KM0201, celthunder: from ps I have g-s running, and no proccess with na me unity. But g-s is strange here, different from standalone testing (tested with a pendrive boot). The buttons "+" and "-" to add/remove new desktops aren't here anymore and applications panel works like in unity: full screen. And the desktops are in a right bar now. If this is a theme, how can I back to default theme?...
[05:48] <newb_> ...There are nothing at gnome-control-center...
[05:48] <illmortal> anyone have a full english version of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1719218
[05:48] <JoseeAntonioR> If it doesn't works, and my screen goes black, what can I do in the console?
[05:49] <illmortal> I can't understand what I need to do to fix my login issue.
[05:49] <celthunder> illmortal: what's your login issue
[05:49] <fisch246> any common issues in Natty i should keep out for or fix?
[05:49] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[05:50] <illmortal> celthunder... it seems to be a common one... simply, at the splash screen (where it shows an image of ubuntu + loading bar) it just stays there.. then I hit ALT+CTRL+DEL and it reboots instantly. From there, I choose, "previous version" and it loads quickly... and looks like 11.04 is loading
[05:51] <celthunder> illmortal: ctrl alt f1 login and dmesg tail /var/log/syslog.log
[05:51] <illmortal> that's all?
[05:51] <illmortal> or you need me to paste bin it or something?
[05:51] <celthunder> (dmesg and the tail part are two different)
[05:51] <celthunder> eh just want to know what it's stopping on
[05:51] <nyquist333> Ok, I'm trying 11.04 in a VM. I've removed Zeitgest. I've used gnome-conf to turn off thumbnail cache, but the .thumbnails dir is still being created. How do I disable ALL thumbnail caching?
[05:51] <illmortal> alright.. ill reboot in a minute then.
[05:52] <illmortal> do I need to log in via recovery, celthunder?
[05:52] <celthunder> no
[05:52] <celthunder> well if it reboots instead of throwing you in a terminal yes
[05:52] <monekfygh> How can I make gnome tell me how much battery I have left?
[05:52] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm back, with no results.
[05:53] <illmortal> ok celthunder.. gimme one minute brb
[05:53] <celthunder> monekfygh: not a gnome thing but acpi / apmtool
[05:53] <ohsix> nyquist333: if you're going to disable all of the caching you need to disable all of their generation in the first place
[05:53] <ohsix> nyquist333: are you having a specific problem?
[05:53] <monekfygh> Celt, I'm currently using that, but I hate clickig the terminal all the time
[05:54] <monekfygh> How can I make launcher for it/
[05:54] <iam126> I wonder if perhaps I might not be totally hated for asking if anyone CANNOT see http://godmode.cc showing up?
[05:55] <iam126> having strange intermittence issue
[05:55] <nyquist333> ohsix: I've gone to a lot of pains setting up 10.10. I don't like anything tracking my usage, or indexing or thumbnailing my photos and yes porn.
[05:55] <ohsix> nyquist333: i can probably help you with t he original problem
[05:55] <ohsix> nyquist333: hurf
[05:55] <monekfygh> How can I make launcher for acpi so I don't have to check terminal everytime to check my battery?
[05:55] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: thanks for the --replace that is a good tips ;)
[05:55] <nyquist333> gconf-editor used to work.
[05:56] <celthunder> iam126: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://godmode.cc/
[05:56] <celthunder> Pascalcmoi: replace what?
[05:56] <JoseeAntonioR> celthunder ohsix jetole I'm back, with no results.
[05:56] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder: well i switch from unity to xfce with --replace
[05:56] <ohsix> nyquist333: whats the scenario where this information you're concerned about gets disclosed? maybe something can be done about that
[05:56] <iam126> celthunder: thanks for your help, that will intermittently fail - do you know what test that tool performs underneath the surface?
[05:57] <celthunder> iam126:idk probably ping/traceroute
[05:57] <celthunder> nslookup then ping then traceroute
[05:57] <celthunder> would be the order i would test in
[05:57] <celthunder> maybe switch traceroute and ping
[05:57] <iam126> celthunder: roger that, same here, thanks for the quick peer review I appreciate it
[05:58] <celthunder> np
[05:58] <iam126> celthunder: I have many different clients using that test regime so I am glad for corroboration - weird error to troubleshoot
[05:58] <celthunder> iam126: ok what's the issue ?
[05:58] <celthunder> iptables running on the server?
[05:58] <celthunder> bad routing at a router?
[05:58] <Pascalcmoi> celthunder++;
[05:58] <celthunder> ARP/RARP working properly?
[05:59] <nyquist333> In the past I've actually redirected .thumbnails, .macromedia and tmp to a ram drive using /dev/shm. But it's a pain. Setting .thumbnails to root and read-only may also work. I don't understand why all this tracking stuff is turned on automatically.
[05:59] <ohsix> nyquist333: it's not tracking you, even if it might be called tracker
[06:00] <ohsix> or zeitgeist
[06:00] <nyquist333> I understand, but your talkig to someone who deletes his recently used file and marks it read-only so it can't be updated.
[06:00] <iam126> celthunder: my team has changed its multi-homing routing strategies and optimized at the router level to rule out intermittence there, iptables also checked and not blocking traffic; I am technically running ubuntu 10.10 so this is "channel legit," it is odd because certain networks cannot see a certain IP subnet, but can see another, on the same virtual image
[06:00] <illmortal> CTRL+ALT+F1 fails, celthunder.
[06:01] <iam126> celthunder: we pretty much have it narrowed down to being a combined issue caused between outside networks and that configuration change at the router level, but now I need to do regression testing
[06:01] <celthunder> illmortal: boot to init 3 does that work?
[06:01] <celthunder> illmortal: from there run startx and see if that fials
[06:01] <iam126> celthunder: sort of like trying to raise the dead to see if the person was really alive to start with
[06:01] <iam126> celthunder: except trying to kill something that ought never have been alive :)
[06:01] <smw> nyquist333, where is that file?
[06:01] <nyquist333> How do I protect privacy in Ubuntu when there isn't a single place to turn off history or thumbnails?
[06:01] <GuyCanada> so, totally off topic but is anyone watching the fights? i cant get them, did GSP just lose?@!?#
[06:01] <illmortal> I select, "2.6.38-8-generic", then it loads up the latest splash screen (black, blue, gray with blue loading bar), and it just hangs until I hit  CTRL+ALT+DEl
[06:01] <nyquist333> smw: Hold on...
[06:01] <ohsix> nyquist333: i talked with ebassi about getting a blacklist aqdded for that, but it's Hard(TM), i want it so video i'm logging doesn't push out useful entries in the recently used list
[06:01] <iam126> no GSP won
[06:01] <celthunder> iam126: if you're using cisco hw for the routers i can probably help a bit
[06:01] <iam126> as did machida
[06:02] <GuyCanada> iam126: oh ok thanks you, ive been hearing rumblings
[06:02] <iam126> GSP beat Shields
[06:02] <nyquist333> sudo chattr +i .recently-used.xbel
[06:02] <iam126> GuyCanada: no
[06:02] <iam126> np
[06:02] <celthunder> illmortal: edit grub when booting to boot to init 3
[06:02] <nyquist333> It's in your home dir. But it moved to .local/shared in 11.04
[06:02] <illmortal> O.o;
[06:02] <celthunder> illmortal: you could also use init 1 but..either way from there login as your user and type startx
[06:03] <monekfygh> Guess no one could help :l
[06:03] <ohsix> nyquist333: you aren't protecting your privacy doing that ... le snoop on your fils and you leave your session unlocked with many people to poke around on it
[06:03] <iam126> celthunder: thanks, our grid is pretty large and my guys are on salary so if they cannot fix it i need to fire people, otherwise I would take you up on that
[06:03] <ohsix> nyquist333: use inotify-watch from inotify-tools to do the cleanup you want
[06:03] <celthunder> iam126: i need a new job so lol :) feel free i'd gladly throw in a few hours free for something worth it in the end
[06:03] <nyquist333> Well, if I have photos on a flash drive, and I only use the flash drive once, it shows up in .thumbnails.
[06:03] <nyquist333> So that sucks.
[06:04] <iam126> celthunder: fill out godmode.cc!
[06:04] <iam126> celthunder: since it works
[06:04] <iam126> celthunder: for now :)
[06:04] <nyquist333> ohsix: I'll check that out.
[06:04] <tyr> hello, can someone help me with my wireless card?
[06:04] <ohsix> nyquist333: theres also a record of the volume in gconf for your view preferences ;]
[06:04] <Falstaf> I like gnome ... is there some reason for the change in GUI.
[06:04] <celthunder> tyr: whats your card chipset and issue with it also any network managers used /modules/etc
[06:04] <illmortal> not sure what you mean celthunder... choosing between init 1 and 3
[06:04] <nyquist333> I think there is an issue in 11.04. gconf is not letting me turn off thumbnail caching.
[06:05] <iam126> celthunder: I would gladly take you up on that because I have infinite work ahead for next several years
[06:05] <iam126> celthunder: all capacities of technical ninjality
[06:05] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[06:05] <celthunder> iam126: move to pm?
[06:05] <karthick87> How to install flash player in ubuntu?
[06:05] <tyr> can someone help me please?
[06:05] <ohsix> nyquist333: you could always use a guest session, it's wiped out after log on; theres going to be an unbounded list of things to clean up
[06:05] <celthunder> illmortal: in grub push e and then go to kernel line and edit it to add a 1 or a 3 at the very end (with a space after last line made) then ctrl x to boot it
[06:05] <xust-> has anybody had any issues installing 11.04?
[06:05] <celthunder> tyr: read up and answer above questions
[06:05] <xust-> random restart during installation...
[06:06] <bullgard4> !wireless | tyr
[06:06] <tyr> up?
[06:06] <illmortal> ok celthunder.. will try right now
[06:06] <celthunder> karthick87: 64 bit or 32 bit
[06:06] <sly> celthunder, you still around?
[06:06] <sameerkof> Anyone know how to use themes after installing gnome3 shell ... ?
[06:06] <karthick87> celthunder: 32 bit
[06:06] <ohsix> nyquist333: check out /apps/nautilus/desktop-metadata
[06:06] <nyquist333> ohsix: Clean up is nice, but I would really like it if nothing was ever written to the disk.
[06:06] <xust-> is there a way to pull up what may be erroring here when the system restarts suddenly at about 60% through the installation of 11.04 64-bit?
[06:07] <cthuljew> So, any word on a hack that'll let us change applet order in the Unity panel?
[06:07] <bullgard4> karthick87: You can install Firefox. In Firefoy you can install a Firefox add-on for flash player.
[06:07] <ohsix> nyquist333: i hope you don't have a swap file ;] really if you take this to the reaches of silly ness it will be quite silly
[06:08] <nyquist333> No, no swap file.
[06:08] <razor__> used the live cd couldnt find the system setting where is it
[06:08] <ohsix> not a good idea
[06:08] <nyquist333> ohsix: Wow, desktop-metadata is even worse!! I thought windows was bad!
[06:09] <xust-> anybody running 11.04 on a single core? lol
[06:09] <adsasd> hi du ei!!!
[06:09] <ohsix> nyquist333: it's just the volume name and some things
[06:09] <bullgard4> sameerkof: No.
[06:09] <xust-> this is VERY laggy during installation, and restarts after a while every time...the system is stable...
[06:09] <ohsix> nyquist333: it's not bad to remember where things are
[06:09] <ohsix> nyquist333: it's just to keep the user from having to set it again, over and over
[06:10] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm having troubles with my monitor. It isn't recognized, and I'm stuck in 1024x768. What can I do?
[06:10] <nyquist333> True, and some videos. Could be worse? It's just some music vidoes.
[06:10] <celthunder> karthick87: then it should be as easy as adding whatever repo flashplugin is in to your sources.list and apt-get update apt-get install flashplugin
[06:10] <themacg33k> Hey guys, I'm trying to boot into the 10.04 Ubuntu PPC installer on a G5 iMac... it doesn't boot into the disk. :(
[06:10] <razor__> I used the live cd on a p4 512 ram system.  worked well no unity desktop which is cool
[06:10] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: it's not just your monitor; it's not using an accelerated  driver, that may be the only mode
[06:10] <xust-> This is an Opteron 144 with 2gb of RAM...
[06:10] <nyquist333> I guess the only real way to keep things locked down is to use full disk encryption. There's just too many leaks. Or run from a LiveCD.
[06:10] <Aikar> anyone know how to get HTC EVO to mount sd card when in ubuntu? plugging in usb only charges and doesnt give me option to mount
[06:11] <ohsix> JoseeAntonioR: you on't get a solution but you might try asking in #intel-gfx what the status of the driver for your hw is
[06:11] <ohsix> nyquist333: ugh are you joking about encryption
[06:11] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[06:11] <kneaux> How do I get panel preferences in 11.04?
[06:11] <InHisName> HOW TO finish upgrading to 10.10 where the gui portion hangs ?   I can login text mode in recovery.
[06:11] <JoseeAntonioR> ohsix Well, thanks!
[06:12] <ohsix> kneaux: use ccsm from compizconfig-settings-manager, the unity plugin
[06:12] <cthuljew> kneaux: Does not exist, more or less.
[06:12] <cthuljew> Oh, unless you mean the sidebar.
[06:12] <ohsix> kneaux: if you mean the thing at the top that looks like a panel, it's not a panel :\
[06:12] <cthuljew> ohsix: Yeah, so, when do we get a hack that lets us configure the top not-panel?
[06:13] <tyr> can someone help me with instructions i dont understand?
[06:13] <ohsix> cthuljew: configure what?
[06:13] <nyquist333> ohsix: why? It's the best way to keep windows from tracking things. Enterprise environments want this level of privacy to protect IP.
[06:13] <kneaux> am I correct in assuming I'm not the only one lamenting the new management
[06:13] <cthuljew> ohsix: Well, the order of the applet on the top right, for instance.
[06:13] <PythonPup> JoseeAntonioR, worst case, google for the xorg.conf values for your monitor
[06:13] <ohsix> nyquist333: humans are the weak link, encryption is no panacea & encrypting everything is a liablity
[06:13] <razor__> not liking natty!!!!
[06:14] <ohsix> razor__: this is a help channel
[06:14] <cthuljew> applets^
[06:14] <kneaux> how do I invoke compizconfig-settings-manager?
[06:14] <PythonPup> razor__, Then don't use it.  Go back to a stable lucid.
[06:14] <cthuljew> kneaux: Click top left, type compiz, it'll show up.
[06:15] <ohsix> kneaux: after it's installed run ccsm from a terminal or alt+f2, it's also in system -> preferences
[06:15] <kneaux> hhhh.
[06:15] <kneaux> i spent all this time learning exactly what's in linux, and now ubuntu wants me to guess.
[06:15] <sly> Alright, guys.. So I still can't get sound preferences to work.
[06:16] <tyr> oshix, can you please help me in understanding some instructions?
[06:16] <nyquist333> ohsix: Performance liability? Ubuntu privacy mix is a very good idea for maintaing and handling confidential data. A law firm may not want a case # to be viewable in some cache somewhere. How do you keep things from leaking?
[06:16] <razor__> ok staying with 10.10 maybe next release will try
[06:16] <razor__> see ya
[06:16] <Guest67776> ok
[06:16] <tyr> someone please help me
[06:17] <ohsix> nyquist333: no, liability, encrypting everything means its all as valuable as the most valuable thing in it, or as useless the rest in it
[06:17] <tyr> i cannot understand some instructions
[06:17] <sameerkof> what should i do there is no "Appearance" option no theme option only one software installed with gnome3 gnome tweak tool now how i am suppose to add themes.
[06:17] <nyquist333> ohsix: In any case. I think I will open a lauchpad case for the tumbnail cache that used that can't be disabled.
[06:17] <Guest67776> we do it
[06:17] <PythonPup> tyr, ask your question.  If someone can help, they will.  Don't ask to ask a question.
[06:17] <ohsix> nyquist333: things "leak" only if you let them, if it's important for it not to show up on a computer perhaps its prudent not to involve a computer
[06:18] <nyquist333> ohsix: Very true. I've had this argument in several design discussions. However, most places just make every thing equally important and encrypt it.
[06:18] <tyr> PythonPup, I cannot understand the instructions here http://sampbar.com/2009/04/broadcom-bcm4318-ubuntu-intrepid/
[06:18] <researcher123> I have 11.04 & 10.10 CD image. Want to upgrade from 10.04. How to proceed?
[06:18] <kneaux> ohsix, what's ccsm?
[06:18] <kneaux> oh nvm.
[06:18] <ohsix> nyquist333: you control assets that  are important and segregate them, you don't mix them with other stuff then put a bandaid over it
[06:19]  * themacg33k baps Ubuntu
[06:19] <themacg33k> Why won't you start up >:|
[06:19] <nyquist333> I can give you many examples where a computer has to be involved and the data needs to be all contained. The computer should not be the enemy logging everything making it impossible to clean up history. Firefox has a privacy mode it would be cool if the OS also had one.
[06:19] <sly> Does anyone know how I would set ALSA to be controlled by the sound preferences in Ubuntu's sound menu?
[06:19] <Jordan_U> researcher123: Unless they are the alternate install images they won't help at all in upgrading.
[06:19] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[06:19] <sly> I keep getting a message "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[06:19] <researcher123> Jordan_U: How d i know that
[06:19] <themacg33k> nyquist333: Agreed
[06:20] <Jordan_U> researcher123: What are they named?
[06:20] <Secluded1> how come the "window" menu doesn't show up in LibreOffice when you enable the lo-globalmenu in 11.04?
[06:20] <tyr> can someone please simplify these instructions? http://sampbar.com/2009/04/broadcom-bcm4318-ubuntu-intrepid/
[06:20] <ohsix> nyquist333: firefox also supports pkcs11
[06:20] <researcher123> Jordan_U: named "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso"
[06:20] <Jordan_U> researcher123: That won't help in upgrading. You can do a fresh install preserving your home directory though.
[06:20] <IdleOne> !broadcom | tyr
[06:21] <PythonPup> tyr, maybe  could answer a specific question, if you have one.  I never use ndiswrapper.  I think it is a bad idea.  I'd go get a better wireless card, that is really supported in Linux.
[06:21] <Jordan_U> tyr: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:21] <PW-toXic> Hi!  I have just enabled desktop cube and cube rotate on 11.04  and everything disappared from the GUI... i reenabled the Unity plugin and now i have no window manager! there are no window borders or window icons like close or no gnome top panel - how can i recover?
[06:21] <IdleOne> tyr: i think the link ubottu just gave you will be of more help to you.
[06:21] <nyquist333> ohsix: Is that good or bad? I think you can do smart card log on with linux? I've never set it up.
[06:21] <ohsix> nyquist333: it's good
[06:21] <researcher123> Jordan_U: I dont want earlier application available on 10.04 to be removed with fresh install of 11.04.How can it be done
[06:21] <xust-> while installing system on 64-bit 11.04, the system restarts suddenly. no error. just a restart...
[06:21] <tyr> I am using the latest one 11.04
[06:21] <sahil_> well can i have support about virtual box here?
[06:21] <Jordan_U> researcher123: Use update-manager.
[06:21] <PythonPup> PW-toXic, log oout and back in.
[06:21] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | researcher123
[06:22] <researcher123> Jordan_U: I tried but no options for that
[06:22] <ohsix> nyquist333: if your browser will contain important information you can't keep out of it, it's a good thing to use
[06:22] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, I rebooted - didnt work
[06:22] <tyr> I cant even find System etc with the new unity interface
[06:22] <researcher123> !upgrade
[06:22] <nyquist333> ohsix: Are you a ubuntu developer?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> researcher123: Read the links ubottu gave you. You probably need to enable non-LTS upgrades.
[06:22] <ohsix> tyr: top right menu, with your login name; click it and pick settings
[06:22] <xust-> is anybody going to answer what might be going on with my installation???
[06:22] <ohsix> nyquist333: no
[06:22] <researcher123> Jordan_U: ok.Im trying
[06:22] <sahil_> can i hav help about virtual box here?
[06:23] <PythonPup> tyr, click on the icon in the top left and type a few characters of the command you want
[06:23] <bazhang> sahil_, #vbox
[06:23] <sahil_> thnx
[06:23] <kneaux> are the only settings for unity available through compiz
[06:23] <tyr> thanks oshix
[06:24] <PythonPup> PW-toXic, restart the system.  After you type your name at the login, choose Gnome at the bottom of the screen.
[06:24] <nyquist333> ohsix: I was just wondering why this trend of Zeitgeist and file indexing has been going full speed ahead. I installed konversation recently, and next thing i know I've got 2 new indexers running in my home directory, by default! Is this normal now a days?
[06:24] <Jordan_U> tyr: In the system settings select "Additional Drivers".
 no1 is at vbox
[06:25] <sahil_> :(
[06:25] <nyquist333> Some Zeitgeist developers don't seem to understand why someone doesn't want to use it. The trend seems to be if you want privacy somethings wrong with you.
[06:25] <tyr> jordan, i have tried that before when i was using linux mint
[06:25] <researcher123> Jordan_U: its working.Thanks
[06:25] <bazhang> sahil_, there are 235 users there
[06:25] <tyr> it would not download the drivers for the wireless card
[06:25] <Jordan_U> researcher123: You're welcome.
[06:25] <rondinelli> can someone help me, please? about a problem with my wi-fi in Ubuntu 11.04 (Atheros AR9285)
[06:25] <linusasus6> please for the grub is it better I put it on sdc or on my /boot partition? (wich is sdc5 a dedied boot partition) Im on the install process right now
[06:26] <Jordan_U> tyr: You'll need to be connected via ethernet or copy the drivers over on a flash drive.
[06:26] <tyr> in 11.04, it shows only my modem for activation, there is no wireless card to be seen in additional drivers
[06:26] <ohsix> nyquist333: i have no idea what people consider normal, but my grandma expects to be able to search here computer & is quite coonfused when it doesn't include email and other things she's done
[06:26] <PythonPup> sahil_, My virtualbox bachine is running the upgrade at the moment, so I can't verify things.  But, I use vbox a lot and I'll try,  What is your query?
[06:26] <Jordan_U> linusasus6: Always install grub's boot sector to the mbr.
[06:26] <linusasus6> so it mean sdc
[06:27] <ohsix> nyquist333: if the stuff is on your computer you don't need indexing or caching to find it; it's still on the computer
[06:27] <Jordan_U> linusasus6: Yes.
[06:27] <xust-> alright! I made it past the "you must restart your computer to use your new installation" !!! then it locked up while stopping services?
[06:27] <tyr> Jordan_U can you show me were to download the drivers for broadcom 4318
[06:27] <ohsix> i have porn and other things on my computer i'd be a bit embarassed about, but it's a calculated risk
[06:27] <xust-> what is wrong with 11.04???
[06:27] <nyquist333> True, a unified search is cool, but I should be able to turn that off. You can't have every feature and have the same privacy profile. I understand that.
[06:28] <ohsix> xust-: is there something wrong? do you have a question?
[06:28] <ohsix> nyquist333: if you store it and your storage leaves your custody theres little to do
[06:28] <xust-> yes! i've been trying to install 11.04 64-bit for the past few hours, and it has restarted each time, getting a little further every time...
[06:28] <xust-> but not completing the installation
[06:28] <PythonPup> xust-, Wayland is not working yet.  There may be a few other problems.
[06:29] <tyr> Jordan_U  where can  download the drivers from?
[06:29] <xust-> It's acting like the system is unstable for the most part, but it's rock solid
[06:29] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, i rebootetd into ubuntu classic and my top and bottom panels are there as welll as my window decorations - however when I reboot into ubuntu with unity, my top panel is back there, but I still have no window manager.. any window i open is sticked to the top left corner and there are no close or min/maximize icons in the top panel
[06:29] <PythonPup> xust-, Don't expect any software to be bug free.  Ubuntu is pretty good.
[06:29] <xust-> random reboots/locking up.
[06:29] <ohsix> PythonPup: who mentioned wayland?
[06:29] <xust-> how is the support for ULi chipsets? was the very little support that existed in previous versions dropped or anything?
[06:30] <rondinelli> why I cant find package "linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic" in Synaptic Ubuntu 11.04?
[06:30] <nyquist333> ohsix: thanks for the info. I have to go. I'll keep playing with 11.04.
[06:30] <ohsix> rondinelli: because natty isn't maverick, do you still need the backports?
[06:30] <Jordan_U> tyr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access
[06:30] <ohsix> rondinelli: it's net-natty now
[06:30] <PythonPup> PW-toXic, I had that problem a few times in beta testing.   I waited for an update and then I usually got it working.
[06:31] <sahil_> pythonpub: well i hav installed xp in vbox (ubuntu natty 32 bit)the sole purpose is to practice c programing with respect to bgi but the problem is i cant make the turbo c into full screen  as it normally happens in xp
[06:31] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, i think ill just reinstall ubuntu.. thats probably faster than fiing this ;)
[06:31] <ohsix> rondinelli: but the backports in mav were from the natty kernel, you probably don't need them now
[06:31] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, i will stop testing compiz with unity ;)
[06:31] <PythonPup> ohsix, someone asked what is wrong with Natty.  So, I mentioned one thing wrong with it.  A bit of a silly answer, but it was a silly question.
[06:31] <linusasus6> Me I will stick with ubuntu 10.04 and wait for the 12.04, too much issues with 11.04
[06:32] <ohsix> PythonPup: a very silly answer, it implies it's useful at al
[06:32] <tripelb> 10.04 upgrade has improved my resolution. maybe nvidia forgot to tell me I needed to reboot to see the wonderful changes I made. Better.
[06:32] <PythonPup> PW-toXic, If your hardware is having problems with compiz, that could be a good idea.
[06:32] <kevinyoung> hi all
[06:32] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, im running on virtual box and i didnt have any issues with 10.10
[06:33] <nyquist333> linusasu6: Quick update. What issues are you seeing with 11.04? I have to go, but would like to know.
[06:33] <rondinelli> ohsix: I found some forums on the Internet that it was necessary to install this package to run the Atheros AR9285 wifi.
[06:33] <PythonPup> PW-toXic, I like the vbox in 11.04 much better than the one in 10.10
[06:33] <tripelb> what did the 10.04 upgrade do for me? anybody know?  (if you arent "locked" onto natty)
[06:33] <PW-toXic> PythonPup, why?
[06:33] <ohsix> rondinelli: were these instructions for maverick?
[06:33] <jrt4> Do I need to do a distribution upgrade from 11.04 alpha2 to the 11.04 release?
[06:33] <sahil_> pythonpub:well i hav installed xp in vbox (ubuntu natty 32 bit)the sole purpose is to practice c programing with respect to bgi but the problem is i cant make the turbo c into full screen  as it normally happens in xp
[06:34] <PythonPup> VirtualBox 4 and up have better mechanisms for exporting and importing VMs.  I move VMs between machines a fair amount.
[06:34] <Coty91> jrt4: You're up to date as long as you've installed the latest updates.
[06:34] <Jordan_U> rondinelli: Does wireless not work for you out of the box in 11.04?
[06:34] <PythonPup> sahil_, Have you tried Control-F
[06:34] <ohsix> jrt4: a regular apt-get update style upgrade should carry you all the way
[06:35] <sahil_> no...cntrol x...
[06:35] <illmortal> bleh init 1 and 3 both fail to boot =\
[06:35] <ohsix> Jordan_U: fwiw i've seen a lot of people having trouble with ath9k stuff in 11.
[06:35] <jrt4> Coty91, So I'm not going to be perpetually tracking a development version? i.e. Once it gets to 11.04 release, it will no longer be downloading development updates like it was before?
[06:35] <sahil_> wait trying
[06:35] <rondinelli> Jordan_U: no, my Atheros AR9285 cant connect, keeps asking for password repeatedly.
[06:35] <ohsix> Jordan_U: nobody ever got back to me after trying the backports in natty
[06:35] <cached> Is there any chance Ubuntu will be switching back to GNOME? I don't think I can recommend it as a useful distro for beginners as long as Unity is the default UI
[06:35] <JoseeAntonioR> Just posted my question in Launchpad. If anyone knows any way to help me, please answer there. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+question/155192
[06:36] <Coty91> jrt4: Correct. It will be just like you installed the final release.
[06:36] <ohsix> cached: they didn't switch from gnome
[06:36] <jrt4> Coty91, thanks
[06:36] <xust-> w00t. I have a desktop!
[06:36] <xust-> and unity! and restricted drivers!
[06:36] <PythonPup> ohsix, backports in natty would be pretty much empty at this point.  It will only be useful once the Oneiric cycle gets going.
[06:36] <ohsix> cached: they wrote a plugin for compiz and made a session to start it with it in a new session
[06:36] <cached> ohsix: they effectively did, UI-wise
[06:36] <ohsix> PythonPup: ehh
[06:36] <ohsix> cached: na; that's just the WM
[06:36] <linusasus6> cached when gnome 3 will be supported on ubuntu everything will be fine
[06:37] <ohsix> cached: 99.99% of the rest is the same
[06:37] <tyr> I cannot copy files to my home folder, what is the solution
[06:37] <xust-> quick question! any suggestions for a hardware stress test for 11.04?
[06:37] <bison> any suggestion, cairo-dock or docky?
[06:37] <cached> ohsix: either way, it's a terrible design
[06:37] <PythonPup> cached, for some people using Natty, I would recommend they use Gnome.  Everything is installed.  You just have to select it upon login.
[06:37] <ohsix> cached: the time for those comments passed a long time ago
[06:37] <fritolay> I prefer docky.
[06:37] <sahil_> pythonpub:u perhaps dsnt understood my questn...the vbox does goes to seamless mode/fullscreen but the turbo c program installed in xp in vbox doesnot become full screen
[06:37] <Inphernal> Both of them suck
[06:38] <ohsix> cached: plus we don't really "help" with past design decisions
[06:38] <sahil_> it seems sticked to 640*480
[06:38] <illmortal> anyone have a how to on fixing the broken upgrade of 11.04? I can log using previous version 2.6.35-28 but fails on 2.6.38-8. Using previous version seems to be loading up 11.04 though since it's using Unity GUI
[06:38] <sly> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/155193  << Problem I'm having, if someone can help.
[06:38] <tyr> PythonPup how do I copy files to my home directory?
[06:38] <xust-> THANKS FOR IGNORING ME
[06:38] <Inphernal> rage
[06:38] <cached> ohsix: I was asking if there's a chance it'll switch back or not. I'm wondering if I should just start completely ignoring Ubuntu from now on or not.
[06:38] <cached> ohsix: I wasn't asking for specific help
[06:39] <PythonPup> xust-, no problem.  glad to help
[06:39] <linusasus6> well will see now if my install is good
[06:39] <PythonPup> tyr, how are you trying to copy?
[06:39] <tyr> someone please tell me how to copy files to home directory. I cannot paste them
[06:39] <jeregon> hello guis i whant to start ubuntu with out gui any i dea on how?
[06:39] <tyr> copying from downloads to home
[06:39] <bazhang> !nox | jeregon
[06:40] <PythonPup> Just open up a terminal and use cp.  What happens then?
[06:40] <ohsix> cached: you can switch back, right now unity is where the action is
[06:40] <ohsix> cached: the old session with panel & nautilus goodies will remain
[06:40] <tyr> PythonPup, how do I copy to home?
[06:40] <PythonPup> ohsix, for 11.04, true.
[06:41] <thien> should i setting resolution by xorg.conf or by xrandr commands in gdm startup scripts ? which is better ?
[06:41] <gartral> i installed KDE, and i was playing around with widgets, and enabled the bouncing ball with auto bounce, how the #$%^ do I stop it? it's on crack!
[06:41] <meganerd> thien: xrandr
[06:41] <linux> happy
[06:41] <ohsix> PythonPup: lets not speculate, and by lets i mean you :]
[06:41] <meganerd> thien: xorg.conf does not really do anything anymore
[06:41] <cached> ohsix: I'm aware, but it looks like I can't be recommending Ubuntu from now on to people who will be asking both me and others for help. Maybe Fedora's the way to go
[06:41] <PythonPup> tyr, for example, to copy a file from Downloads called  thisfile, do   cd ~   then cp Download/thisfile .
[06:41] <ohsix> thien: xrandr if your driver can do it
[06:42] <thien> thanks for your help
[06:42] <ohsix> thien: if you still need to do it you'll probably need extra for other outputs too
[06:42] <PythonPup> ohsix, no speculation needed.  The official announcement was that Gnome would be removed from 11.10.
[06:42] <ohsix> PythonPup: nein
[06:43] <ohsix> PythonPup: unless ubuntu is rewriting the 99.99% left that composes their user facing desktop
[06:43] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." after waiting a while during "setting new software channels" step of upgrader
[06:43] <ohsix> PythonPup: gnome is a huge collection of software, which the shell is a small but important part
[06:44] <xust-> NVidia drivers "activate" but aren't in use. 6600le on 11.04. thoughts?
[06:45] <PythonPup> ohsix, Gnome is certainly more than the shell.
[06:45] <tyr> PythonPup, are you sure you gave the right syntax for copying?
[06:45] <Pascalcmoi> is there a runlevel for text-only
[06:45] <ubuntuguy> hm
[06:45] <ubuntuguy> Does anyone use system monitor indicator?
[06:46] <freeman_> yes
[06:46] <ubuntuguy> How can I make my computer start up with it?
[06:46] <tyr> PythonPup, it gave the message: cp: missing destination file operand after `Download/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2'
[06:46] <arquebus> ubuntuguy- r-click on the toolbar and click "add to panel"
[06:46] <thien> i wanna set xrandr commands in gdm startup scripts, what file do i have to edit?
[06:46] <ubuntuguy> arque, I'm using natty
[06:47] <PythonPup> tyr, sure.  But your file may have a different name.  Do a man cp to get the syntax.  It is just cp source destination    at its basics.
[06:47] <freeman_> ubuntuguy, do you think it would work in startup applications?
[06:47] <ubuntuguy> Yeah, why wouldn't it?
[06:47] <freeman_> are you using unity?
[06:47] <ubuntuguy> I just don't know how to add it
[06:47] <ubuntuguy> Yes
[06:47] <freeman_> top right click the button and the last option
[06:47] <PythonPup> tyr, you must have left of the . at the end.  . indicates the current directory.
[06:47] <freeman_> system settings
[06:48] <tripelb> oops, my computer cant see my phone. it could before the upgrade. wassup. java phone
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> And
[06:48] <freeman_> under personal its near the end
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> Startup applications
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> yeah ik
[06:48] <ubuntuguy> but how do I add it?
[06:49] <Jordan_U> ubuntuguy: The command is "gnome-system-monitor".
[06:49] <freeman_> was just about to type that :D
[06:49] <ubuntuguy> Jordan, that's for the system monitor indicator?
[06:49] <freeman_> ubuntu forums if you need a place to look ubuntuguy
[06:49] <ubuntuguy> The one that goes on the panel?
[06:49] <thien> how to setting xrandr commands in gdm startup script?
[06:50] <freeman_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136286
[06:50] <chreestopher> anyone  care to help a linux newb who is having some simple problems?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> ubuntuguy: No. I don't know about the indicator.
[06:50] <PythonPup> ubuntuguy, do you have gnome-session-properties?  try running it.
[06:50] <ubuntuguy> Yeah, I want to add the indicator
[06:50] <freeman_> chreestopher, you can just ask your question :)
[06:51] <chreestopher> how do I setup a sudo password for a user?
[06:51] <ubuntuguy> Gnome session properties, for the indicator? I don't think that would work
[06:51] <kneaux> so what do i do to change the commands the panel launchers run?
[06:51] <chreestopher> i dont know the correct terminology yet, but i hope you understand what i mena
[06:51] <chreestopher> mean*
[06:51] <PythonPup> chreestopher, It is their regular password.  Whether they can use it depends upon their role.  Are they an admin.
[06:51] <chreestopher> yes
[06:51] <tyr> PythonPup, I right clicked the files and asked to copy to home directory. but they were instead copied to home/username.
[06:52] <freeman_> chreestopher, you want to add someone to the "sudoers" file
[06:52] <kneaux> or change the shortcuts in the dash...or add launchers to the docky thing...
[06:52] <chreestopher> ok, ill google that, should be able to get  it
[06:52] <tyr> PythonPup, is there any other way to  copy these files? I am a new user and I can't understand your commands
[06:52] <kneaux> none of the things normal operating systems allow me to do with no questions asked seem to be possible in this new ubuntu
[06:52] <freeman_> chreestopher, ill keep looking. let me know if you find it
[06:53] <tyr> PythonPup, In linux mint i think there was a way to open the home folder as the admin and then copy
[06:53] <PythonPup> tyr, Most people would call home/username their home directory.  You may not have permissions to copy to /home.  If you really mean /home, then do the cp as sudo.
[06:53] <chreestopher> i just found a tut on google freeman, thanks though
[06:53] <freeman_> np :)
[06:53] <shijie> hello, I installed codeblocks,but it doesn't work
[06:54] <NikolayTheThird> Why is moving windows around so slow now in 11.04 compared to 10.10?
[06:54] <xust-> NVidia drivers "activate" but aren't in use. 6600le on 11.04. I've tried both versions that show up in the proprietary drivers window. what's going on?
[06:54] <shijie> it throwed "sh XXX permission denied " error upon compiling
[06:54] <PythonPup> tyr, probably.  Their are lots of ways to do it.  You can open a nautilus root shell, or use sudo , or open a root terminal shel;l and copy.
[06:54] <shijie> can anybody help me?great appriciated
[06:54] <linusasus6> finally after hour of help thank I have copy paste in my email what you tell me, but the reinstallation solution was way faster  I'm happy to be on my ubuntu 10.04
[06:55] <freeman_> linusasus6, dont always have to be on the cutting edge
[06:55] <micahcowan> So... the app launcher. Where does it store its data?
[06:56] <badbandit> hello, I just upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 and I am not liking the UI changes at all... is there any way to use the previous UI or downgrade back to 10.10?
[06:56] <shijie> but before I upgraded to 11.04, codeblocks works well.
[06:56] <crlcan81> log out
[06:56] <crlcan81> badbandit: log out then select ubuntu classic
[06:56] <ohsix> badbandit: pick classic from the login screen at the bottom, after clicking on your name
[06:56] <badbandit> I feel like the saying " if its not broken, dont fix it" was ignored
[06:56] <badbandit> ok
[06:56] <micahcowan> I have the "terminal" app there, but it's gnome-terminal, not xterm, even though I edited it to the correct value as far as gnome is concerned
[06:56] <badbandit> thanks
[06:56] <ohsix> badbandit: it's not broken if it's a new thing :]
[06:57] <freeman_> badbandit, yes i agree but i think its kind of fun figuring it out
[06:57] <badbandit> ohsix: true, and maybe its because Im just used to the old UI but there are a few things that just don't seem as intuitive
[06:57] <crlcan81> I agree freeman, they had their reasons for it.
[06:57] <ohsix> badbandit: it's hard to unlearn
[06:57] <PW-toXic> Hi,  suddenly both of my raid drives (raid5 and raid1) started a rebuild.. is this normal? Im getting afraid
[06:57] <PW-toXic> mdadm
[06:58] <linusasus6> freeman the issues of grub was due of the order I install my 2 distribution and the wrong place I have put the grub , by placing grub on sdc grub is mounting on sdc5 anyway the error I did before is too install grub directly on sdc5 instead of sdc
[06:58] <ohsix> PW-toXic: there should be a log somewhere that indicates why they started rebuilding
[06:58] <mah454> I have big problem with ubuntu-11.04 . where is minimize to tray ?
[06:58] <linux> cd
[06:58] <ohsix> mah454: that was something an app did
[06:58] <PW-toXic> ohsix, and where?
[06:59] <shijie> any body know about codeblocks compilation errors?thanks
[06:59] <crlcan81> on multimedia system selector, is it better to autodetect, alsa, or pulseaudio?
[06:59] <Windows> Is this the correct Ubuntu channel?
[06:59] <mah454> ohsix minimize to tray for xchat client ...
[06:59] <ohsix> mah454: most apps that put garbage in that area aren't in the whitelist so their icon doesn't show
[06:59] <xust-> NVidia drivers "activate" but aren't in use. 6600le on 11.04. I've tried both versions that show up in the proprietary drivers window. what's going on?
[06:59] <xust-> NVidia drivers "activate" but aren't in use. 6600le on 11.04. I've tried both versions that show up in the proprietary drivers window. what's going on?
[06:59] <xust-> how many times do I have to point this out before somebody even acknowledges me
[06:59] <ohsix> PW-toXic: /var/log, and dmesg if it was recent
[07:00] <elvis2> hi all, i just updated to 11.04, how do i change the taskbar in the left, to be on the bottom?
[07:00] <Jordan_U> xust-: If nobody has an answer then nobody will answer.
[07:00] <tyr> PythonPup, nothing has happened after following the instructions in the page. Let me restart and confirm
[07:00] <micahcowan> shijie, better off with a different chan. Not really a package-building chan. #ubuntu-motu, if it's an ubuntu package being built.
[07:00] <xust-> alright. done with ubuntu. haven't had functional nvidia drivers since 10.04!
[07:00] <ohsix> xust-: some people might expect you to ask nvidia for support for their drivers, too
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Windows: This is the Ubuntu support channel, yes.
[07:00] <micahcowan> They may help, even if it's not, shijie
[07:01] <shijie> ok,thanks.
[07:01]  * freeman_ stares at Windows 
[07:01] <mah454> ohsix what ? unity have not system tray ?
[07:01] <crlcan81> xust: I have the same problem too, different drivers, but they're not in use either.
[07:01] <xust-> which graphics card?
[07:01] <freeman_> mah454, i dont think so
[07:01] <Windows> Cool thanks! I'm slowing making the switch from Winblows to Ubuntu
[07:02] <crlcan81> xust: gts 250
[07:02] <xust-> hm. 6600LE here.
[07:02] <xust-> time to give linux mint or opensuse a try :|
[07:02] <PW-toXic> ohsix, it just says "md: data-check of RAID array md0"
[07:02] <crlcan81> freeman yes they have the system tray, it's just limited. you can alter it to work as standard.
[07:02] <Windows> I've tried Mint and Open suse but always come back to Ubuntu. Guess I have a soft spot for it :P
[07:02] <linusasus6> before ubuntu 8.04 I was always updating only if it was LTS then I try to install every 6 month update I had lot of issues now I know that will continue to install LTS only
[07:02] <PW-toXic> ohsix, this happens regularly within several weeks...
[07:02] <freeman_> Windows, you came at the right time. we're all learning the new version too :P
[07:03] <PW-toXic> ohsix, why does he need to rebuild for a check?
[07:03] <ohsix> ugh that crap apport asks you with ubuntu-bug is awful
[07:03] <linusasus6> is by our error that we learn
[07:03] <Windows> Ha ha sweet! I'm really liking 11.0.4 been using it since the beta
[07:03] <blackstar> anyone knows how to re-enable missing logs files on natty?
[07:03] <ohsix> PW-toXic: no clue
[07:03] <PythonPup> crlcan81, it is better to choose the audio system that works best.  That is why there is a choice.  At least, that is one big reason.  I usually choose pulseaudio, but some people don't think it is stable enough.
[07:04] <crlcan81> That's what I was asking pythonpup, which one is stable/best quality?
[07:04] <crlcan81> also have another odd issue with the audio seperate from that..
[07:04] <casey_> Does anyone know how to use pen pressure in GIMP?
[07:04] <mah454> freeman_ I use xchat client for IRC , when I close xchat use minimize to tray . but I can not find it in unity desktop !
[07:04] <freeman_> mah454, i just use minimize
[07:05] <mah454> freeman_ I only minimize ?
[07:05] <bison> any suggestion, cairo-dock or docky?
[07:05] <PythonPup> crlcan81, it depends upon your system.  I told you what I normally choose.
[07:05] <crlcan81> well at least I figured out part of the audio issue I'm having.
[07:06] <micahcowan> casey, better off asking in a gimp-related chan or forum
[07:06] <freeman_> instead of closing i choose the button beside x
[07:06] <casey_> micahcowan: any where to point me to?
[07:06] <micahcowan> there's most likely a #gimp. Otherwise fish around.
[07:06]  * crlcan81 has where his pulseaudio doesn't always recognize pnp on his keyboard. alsa lists it as usb audio, which is what it is.
[07:06] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: I just done a ubuntu 11 live boot but there' s no unity, its gnome , how to run unity now
[07:06] <casey_> thanks
[07:07] <chreestopher> thanks buddy, I got it working , adding users to sudoers that is
[07:07] <chreestopher> i forgot your name though
[07:07] <freeman_> casey_, cant you just use opacity?
[07:07] <chreestopher> lol
[07:07] <chreestopher> freeman, thats who it was, thanks for the help
[07:07]  * freeman_ raises hand
[07:07] <freeman_> glad you got it working :D
[07:07] <crlcan81> it's a USB gaming keyboard with audio input/output jacks on one side, and usb on the other.
[07:07] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: I just done a ubuntu 11 live boot but there' s no unity, its gnome , how to run unity now
[07:08] <chreestopher> me too, this time around for some reason things are clicking much better in my head than in the past when ive tried to learn to use linux
[07:08] <PythonPup> thauriswulfa, It is likely your hardware does not have the needed 3d support.  If it is nvidia, you could probably install it, add the proprietary drivers and then you'd get Unity 3d.
[07:08] <freeman_> chreestopher, you can never know it all, haha
[07:08] <chreestopher> exactly
[07:08] <mathews> thauriswulfa: unity comes only when u installed it
[07:08] <Windows> Oh shit I just realized. My name is Windows. It suppose to be Windows Sucks wtf? lol
[07:08] <thauriswulfa> mathews: but it worked on another machine
[07:09] <crlcan81> you gotta do _ if you want space
[07:09] <chreestopher> I myself am an IT professional, mostly experienced with windows sides of things including AD etc as well as general IT support for medical practices as well
[07:09] <ASDF_> Hello
[07:09] <PythonPup> Windows, please watch your language here.
[07:09] <Windows> My bad won't happen again
[07:09] <freeman_> chreestopher, cool, im a student and i did my linux final exam today :P
[07:09] <chreestopher> im trying to expand my knowledge because the government is giving out tons of money to train for healthcare IT profesions , and ive already got a bit of background in the field, would just love to go as deep down the rabbit hole as i can
[07:09] <crlcan81> any idea how to get pulseaudio to recognize pnp aka headphones from a usb keyboard after logging out and logging back in?
[07:09] <mathews> thauriswulfa: u look on the panel whether it shows any circuit board symbol
[07:09] <sandGorgon> hmm.. does anybody else have an issue with the home screen of dash - I mean I would have preferred the home screen to have application categories like earlier "Accessories", "Games", etc.
[07:10] <mathews> thauriswulfa: click if it there and install the driver
[07:10] <chreestopher> anyways, just felt i would give you guys a bit of an intro , its the least I could do in exchange for the support
[07:10] <crlcan81> Every time I log out and log back in it causes the autodetect to stop recognizing the headphone jack on my keyboard as able to support audio.
[07:10] <chreestopher> lol
[07:10] <ASDF_> Can I restore my ubuntu after a failed upgrade using the live CD installation upgrade process???????????
[07:10] <elvis2> how do i move my launcher in 11.04?
[07:10] <freeman_> chreestopher, once you get comfortable with ubuntu you should go with more advanced distributions
[07:10] <mathews> thauriswulfa: unity needs display driver to be installed
[07:10] <thauriswulfa> mathew: its not there
[07:10] <thauriswulfa> mathews: its not there
[07:11] <freeman_> you will run into problems which will make you learn more
[07:11] <freeman_> always keep ubuntu though haha
[07:11] <Windows> I do have a problem though with XBMC. I run dual displays (26" lcd tv and 22" lcd monitor) I run XBMC on the TV which works great until I load up XBMC. XBMC doesn't seem to pick up my TV. Figured this was graphics card related and not XBMC. Any ideas?
[07:11] <chreestopher> my end goal is to learn pentesting , as eventually i would like to get cissp
[07:11] <ASDF_> Can I restore my ubuntu after a failed upgrade using the live CD installation upgrade process???????????
[07:11] <ASDF_> i need to restore it
[07:11] <chreestopher> as healthcare has a huge need for security in their technology ...
[07:11] <chreestopher> so i plan on learning more advanced distros once I get comfortable
[07:11] <mathews> thauriswulfa: go to system and look in preferences
[07:12] <PythonPup> healthcare has some security.  I am shocked.  I thought they were all Windows.
[07:12] <freeman_> haha
[07:12] <ASDF_> You guys are not helping............................................................
[07:12] <mathews> thauriswulfa: then additional drivers and click and run
[07:12] <ASDF_> I nned help guys!
[07:12] <thauriswulfa> mathews: one more problem, when i boot and try to install using usb  pen drive it gives some errror no 5  ,is something wrong with iso file,?
[07:13] <chreestopher> im liking it so far because im really starting to look at things differently already, only a few weeks in, and my mind is seeing and thinking about things in a more logical way , or atleast it seems that way
[07:13] <freeman_> ASDF_, can you be more specific... like an error message when you boot?
[07:13]  * crlcan81 sticks with autodetect..
[07:13] <crlcan81> So whatever the issue with my headphones it's not directly related to my sound layer system.
[07:13] <mathews> thauriswulfa: I dont know about error no5
[07:13] <ASDF_> It syas missing /tmp files during bootup
[07:13] <ASDF_> *says
[07:14] <thauriswulfa> ASDF_ so any solution?
[07:14] <sonictk> woohoo, upgraded to natty narwhal...and ubuntu goes to a blank screen (but with the gradient background) after choosing the kernel to boot from. Can't bring up Terminal or anything. :(
[07:14] <mathews> thauriswulfa: usually when installed Ubuntu log in in to gnome desktop
[07:14] <ASDF_> My upgrade failed and cannot bootup
[07:15] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION:when i boot and try to install using usb pen drive it gives some errror no 5(some fault on hard disk or cd drive) ,is something wrong with iso file,?
[07:15] <crlcan81> Does anyone have experience with headphones not working properly after a log out?
[07:15] <sonictk> hmm now it just goes to a blank screen with a blinking cursor. no boot
[07:15] <mathews> thauriswulfa: after u installed u can select it on each login page.Select ur usename and password and before u press login select the preferred desktop from the bottom panel
[07:15] <ASDF_> Can i restore ubuntu via the live cd upgrade process?
[07:15] <thauriswulfa> mathews: but its not installled
[07:15] <ohsix> crlcan81: you don't own the audio device after you log out, what sound can you make? :]
[07:16] <sandGorgon> anybody know how to configure Unity to show installed-programs on the home screen - especially if it is put in categories.
[07:16] <arquebus> ASDF- if you got that far in the install process, the partition has been formatted, there is no previous ubuntu to go back to
[07:16] <ASDF_> Hello I got plenty of important files in my ubuntu, i need to fix it ASAP
[07:16] <mathews> thauriswulfa: thats what I said on live cd it log in to only gnome desktop and needs display drivers supporting 2d or 3d
[07:16] <freeman_> ASDF_, you can try it.
[07:16] <ASDF_> But will it work?
[07:18] <Jordan_U> ASDF_: You can access you files from a LiveCD.
[07:18] <ASDF_> When i boot up it says disck drive / is not ready yet or not present
[07:18] <mathews> anybody here know that Ubuntu 11.04 miss vpn service
[07:18] <newb_> Hello! egtk gnome theme is missing into ubuntu? This is the default theme for gnome3? Here the default gnome3 theme is missing, and  think it's egtk...
[07:18] <linusasus6> I still have one issue from the sound, when earphone or headphone are plug the sound come from speaker at the sametime
[07:18] <ASDF_> Jordan_U : I know that
[07:18] <ohsix> mathews: networkmanager still does vpns, maybe you need to install the package for the type you need?
[07:18] <ASDF_> but i want to restore the system
[07:18] <xangua> newb_: better stick with unity
[07:19] <ASDF_> it identifies itself at Ubuntu 11.04
[07:19] <linusasus6> but you help me alot today so it will be for next time thank have a great nite all
[07:19] <sonictk> hmm I changed my boot options to show whats happening during boot, it seems to get stuck at Loading...please wait...but it's been like what? 5 minutes? no change
[07:19] <freeman_> linusasus6, good night and good luck :)
[07:19] <ohsix> newb_: gnome3 is only available as a ppa right now, and is not really suppotred here
[07:19] <mathews> ohsix: I installed openvpn and restart the system but it says vpn service failed to start on the moment I click the vpn connection.Even it does not try to connect
[07:20] <newb_> xangua: for awhile it's only a testing...
[07:20] <newb_> ohsix: ok :(
[07:20] <freeman_> newb_, i think you can use gnome2 :P
[07:20] <ohsix> newb_: someone might answer if it's not too specific to gnome3 but it's still a pot shot here
[07:21]  * crlcan81 is talking about logging out and logging back in.
[07:21] <mathews> ohsix: the same way I did in 10.10 but it was working there
[07:22] <ASDF_> hello?
[07:22] <freeman_> ASDF_, how's it going?
[07:22] <ASDF_> God dammit this is not even helping me
[07:22] <freeman_> did you try looking for an option in the live cd?
[07:23] <ASDF_> yeah it syas upgrade to naty natawall
[07:23] <ASDF_> will it fix my PC ?
[07:23] <thegoodcushion> Is it too early for me to ask what the stance is on Unity/GNOME in 11.10?
[07:23] <freeman_> does it recognize it as 10.10 ?
[07:23] <ASDF_> no 11.04
[07:24] <sonictk> hmm after booting in verbose mode I seem to be stuck on boot at the line "Begin: running /scripts/init-bottom ... done
[07:24] <ASDF_> its recognize as 11.04
[07:24] <ChronicSyncope> thegoodcushion, are you asking if they're going to remove it?
[07:24] <mathews> ASDF: can u log in to it?
[07:24] <ASDF_> cant log in
[07:24] <thegoodcushion> ChronicSyncope: Well, I'm asking what's happening.  I like GNOME and I don't like Unity
[07:24] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, I have seen an announcement that the Gnome desktop will not be in 11.10.  I don't know all the details.
[07:24] <freeman_> how far in the upgrade did you get
[07:24] <ASDF_> it says missing /tmp files during bootup
[07:24] <ASDF_> up to xfont
[07:24] <ASDF_> then the terminal stalled
[07:25] <mathews> ASDF: then u can copy whatever in ur hard disk
[07:25] <ASDF_> and its says 28 mins remaining
[07:25] <freeman_> mine took a long time.. but i did a fresh install
[07:25] <ChronicSyncope> thegoodcushion, just use "classic gnome" when you log in
[07:25] <thegoodcushion> ChronicSyncope: yeah but it might not be there
[07:26] <mathews> ASDF: on upgrade the documents r not deleted and u can take it back on running a live cd
[07:26] <ChronicSyncope> thegoodcushion, honestly, if it disappears I would switch distros, on the other hand it's very easy to install gnome
[07:26] <freeman_> thegoodcushion, i think you can still get a pakage in software center
[07:26] <thegoodcushion> yeah ChronicSyncope I'm with 10.04 right now because of that
[07:26] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/739812/comments/5 for confirmation
[07:26] <ASDF_> mathews: the files are still there
[07:26] <newb_> xangua, freeman_, ohsix: anyway, thanks for help :) Restarting the system here to do some tests
[07:27] <freeman_> newb_, good luck
[07:27] <uabn93> If I upgrade ubuntu, will I be able to keep my settings and applications?
[07:27] <mathews> ASDF: so u do run a live cd and save the documents before u do any further test
[07:27] <ASDF_> can access it using the live CD
[07:27] <PythonPup> uabn93, For the most part, yes
[07:27] <freeman_> ASDF_, yes
[07:27] <ASDF_> mathews: Save inside live CD?
[07:27] <ChronicSyncope> uabn93, of course, if you update it internally
[07:28] <mathews> cannot save inside live cs but in a separate hdd
[07:28] <freeman_> ASDF_, do you have an ipod or something
[07:28] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[07:28] <mathews> ASDF:cannot save inside live cd but in a separate hdd
[07:28] <PythonPup> uabn93, there are usually a few applications where support is dropped between releases.  But, very few and they are usually things that are not used much.
[07:28] <ASDF_> freeman: iphone or ipad?
[07:28] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: that's interesting, but it's hardly a definitive statement on the matter
[07:28] <ASDF_> yeah
[07:29] <sebastian> hi to all, i have a question. I have installed the ubuntu 11.4, but unity is not of my like and i want to return to the old look, is a way to do that?
[07:29] <r0fs3ck5> !tip
[07:29] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, I generally take Marks word as a decision.  But, you can decide for yourself.
[07:29] <mathews> ASDF: a restore of upgrade is not possible I think
[07:29] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: Oops, I didn't check the author's name
[07:29] <freeman_> ASDF_, not very much space but i think so.. mine is 160 gigs but i use separate data partition
[07:29] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: okay, I think you're right
[07:30] <mathews> sebastian: it is possible
[07:30] <PythonPup> sebastian, It is easy.  Just log out.  Log back in , but before you type your password, look to the bottom of the screen and select Gnome.
[07:30] <freeman_> sebastian, when you log in at the bottom look for classic gnome
[07:30] <freeman_> jinx
[07:30] <mathews> sebastian: u got it from Pythonpup
[07:30] <sebastian> the problem is that i put "start automatically" in the installation
[07:30] <adzy> hello all!
[07:30] <uabn93> PythonPup: I also have a laptop and had to manually compile wifi drivers and I also installed burg. Do you think that'll remain too, if i upgrade?
[07:30] <sebastian> the system dont as me my password
[07:31] <KM0201> sebastian: probably cuz you set it to auto login
[07:31] <ASDF_> How about I create a partion on my HDD and transfer the documents into the new partition and do the upgrade
[07:31] <uabn93> Oh..and printer drivers
[07:31] <PythonPup> uabn93, probably.  You might have to do a make install again.
[07:31] <red2kic> ASDF_: Burn them to the DVD is an option too.
[07:31] <adzy> anyone have trouble booting from live cd? my just hangs up no matter what menu option i select
[07:31] <ASDF_> but my files are 10GB plus
[07:32]  * freeman_ smiles
[07:32] <sebastian> yes, i set it in auto login, how can i do to the system for it ask me my password again?
[07:32] <freeman_> do you want a password?
[07:32] <ASDF_> the only way to make a new partition and move my home folder there
[07:32] <red2kic> ASDF_: Only 10GB plus -- Luck you. I have 100GB plus.
[07:32] <mathews> sebastian: go to the system and select login screen
[07:32] <chronos> good night. have someone booted livecd at a notebook with nvidia GTS 360m ? I getting a 'zebra' screen here
[07:32] <freeman_> sebastian, open a terminal and type: passwd
[07:32] <PythonPup> adzy, I have one system that would not boot from the Natty live cd.  I used the alternate CD and it worked fine.
[07:32] <ASDF_> Will it work?
[07:32] <red2kic> ASDF_: Hard drives are inexpensive. Just saying.
[07:33] <chronos> and booting from a usb stick
[07:33] <freeman_> red2kic, partitions are free :)
[07:33] <adzy> PythonPup, whats the alternate CD ? a seperation ISO download?
[07:33] <PythonPup> sebastion, it will login when you boot.  So, then logout.
[07:33] <arquebus> ASDF- did you have your home directory on its own partition on the previous install?
[07:33] <red2kic> !alt | adzy
[07:34] <ASDF_> The idea of Distribution Upgrade in Ubuntu is probably the stupidest idea ever..................................................................
[07:34] <freeman_> i love you ubottu
[07:34] <uabn93> PythonPup: thanks
[07:34] <sebastian> thanks!
[07:34] <adzy> red2kic, thanks ;)
[07:34] <PythonPup> adzy, yes, it is another CD installer.  I usually use it becasue it has more options for disk setup.  During the testing cycle, I try both CDs so I can report errers.
[07:34] <freeman_> ubottu i love you
[07:34] <ASDF_> Especially online upgrade
[07:34] <uabn93> lol
[07:34] <ASDF_> It better to burn an iso and upgrade it
[07:35] <mathews> ASDF: ur statement is not correct
[07:35] <ASDF_> Very little risk involved
[07:35] <ASDF_> Anything can go wrong with the distribution upgrade
[07:35] <sonictk> yay I got narwhal to boot...by booting into the older linux kernel
[07:35] <ASDF_> The online one
[07:35] <hardcold> Isn't SDL installed with Ubuntu?
[07:35] <freeman_> ASDF_, you dont have to choose it :P
[07:35] <hardcold> I just tried to compile a game but it said I didn't have SDL
[07:35] <sonictk> apparently 2.6.38 doesnt like my netbook X_X
[07:36] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[07:36] <hardcold> How can I install SDL?
[07:36] <mathews> ASDF: on immediate upgrade after a release makes the problem
[07:36] <adzy> PythonPup, I'm using it now in Vmware now, so ill use this i guess until i get alternate installer thanks ;)
[07:36] <PythonPup> hardcold.  sdl is a library.  You may have to add it.
[07:36] <hardcold> PythonPup, how do I add it?
[07:36] <ASDF_> Stpid upgrade
[07:36] <kevinamadeus> does natty comes with a task manager?
[07:37] <ASDF_> next time when new version release, ask everyone to burn it an iso and install it
[07:37] <ASDF_> kevinamadeus: Yes
[07:37] <hardcold> PythonPup, I had 11.04 beta 2, which had it, but I just did a clean install 11.04 and it does not seem to
[07:37] <freeman_> kevinamadeus, in the search look for system
[07:37] <PythonPup> kevinamadeus, try alt+tab
[07:37] <freeman_> system monitor its called
[07:38] <kevinamadeus> ahh system monitor!
[07:38] <kevinamadeus> freeman_: thanks!
[07:38] <PythonPup> hardcold, give me a moment
[07:38] <freeman_> kevinamadeus, no problem, took me a second to find it too :)
[07:38] <ASDF_> UBUNTU ONLINE DISTRIBUTION UPGRADE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:38] <ASDF_> always fail
[07:38]  * freeman_ whispers, "don't use it"
[07:38] <red2kic> ASDF_: Debian. Can't go wrong with SOLID OS.
[07:38] <ASDF_> ever since 4.04
[07:38] <thegoodcushion> This Unity business will ruin Ubuntu
[07:38] <Jordan_U> !ot | ASDF_
[07:39] <mathews> ASDF: pls stop
[07:39] <ASDF_> red2kic: you must be joking
[07:39] <uabn93> Ok guys, I'm about to upgrade. I always hear of upgrade failures. Wish me luck.
[07:39] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, I am concerned, too.  But, I hope not.
[07:39] <freeman_> uabn93, remember to backup your files
[07:39] <bullgard4> kevinamadeus: Yes.
[07:39] <ohsix> ASDF_: your statement doesn't match my own experience, perhaps it's an opinion?
[07:39] <red2kic> ASDF_: Ho ho ho?
[07:39] <kz3> can anybody help me in installing "metasploit" on ubuntu
[07:39] <ASDF_> uabn93> If you wanna upgrade download the iso
[07:39] <uabn93> freeman_: check :)
[07:39] <ohsix> uabn93: purge any ppas you use :]
[07:39] <freeman_> uabn93, good luck :D
[07:39] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: Seriously, Ubuntu has been the most popular distro for years now.  With this Unity business, it's finished
[07:39] <ASDF_> and istall it
[07:39] <PythonPup> hardcold, open up synaptic and search for libsdl.
[07:40] <uabn93> ohsix: why is that?
[07:40] <thegoodcushion> I reckon I'll stay with Ubuntu 10.04 until it becomes too old, and then upgrade to debian with GNOME
[07:40] <ASDF_> Online upgrade is very unstable
[07:40] <ohsix> ASDF_: please don't discuss your failures in here unless you can assist someone to  figure out what it is
[07:40] <ASDF_> anything can happen
[07:40] <hardcold> PythonPup, doing now
[07:40] <ohsix> uabn93: ppas are unsupported 3rd party software, a good way to break things
[07:40] <ohsix> ASDF_: that's not true
[07:40] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, You are too harsh.  For the next 6 months, there is no problem.  If Uniuty bothers you, just use Gnome.  Let them work out the bugs a bit.
[07:40] <kz3> can anybody help me in installing "metasploit" on ubuntu
[07:41] <ohsix> kz3: no
[07:41] <mathews> ASDF: people r not getting so angry when they buy a windows cd for many $ and fails
[07:41] <ASDF_> kz3: sudo apt-get install metasploit
[07:41] <hardcold> PythonPup, now what?
[07:41] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: I'll stay with 10.04.  I'm doing coding mainly so it's not like I need a recent release
[07:41] <red2kic> mathews: They just go out and buy new machines instead.
[07:41] <ASDF_> Im angry why nothing has been done to fix that
[07:41] <uabn93> ohsix: will do that just to be safe. thanks 4 the info
[07:42] <thegoodcushion> Who's using GNOME 3?  Why can't Ubuntu use GNOME 3?  GNOME 3 looks good to me
[07:42] <freeman_> thegoodcushion, i do my coding in a virtual machine
[07:42] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: I'm about to. I'm on TTY at the moment.
[07:42] <kz3> ASDF_: it says unable to locate package metasploit
[07:42] <Jordan_U> ASDF_: Continuing to rant here will not help anything, though it may get you removed from the channel.
[07:42] <ohsix> uabn93: :] anything you manually install in directories managed by the package manager can cause troublr too
[07:42] <PythonPup> hardcold, if you found good choices there.  Install them.  I don't have a Natty system here.  I have a few at home and I will have one here in about 90 minutes.
[07:42] <thegoodcushion> freeman_: I used to do it in a VM too, only issue was I couldn't get the printer to work from the VM
[07:42] <ASDF_> kz3: go syamtic package manager
[07:43] <mathews> thegoodcushion: every new system is a headache on start up but get ok after we experience it
[07:43] <freeman_> what vm program
[07:43] <hardcold> PythonPup, It shows libsdl1.2debian as being installed
[07:43] <ASDF_> freeman: Virtual machines
[07:43] <freeman_> vmware or?
[07:43] <ppk_> can anyone direct me to a page that will show me how to get flash + firefox + audio to work properly?
[07:44] <hardcold> PythonPup, what is the website to paste things for this chat? I'll just post what terminal is saying
[07:44] <Infatuas> ppk_:google.com
[07:44] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, Fedora uses GNOME 3.  I agree with Mark that it was a risky choice to go with GNOME 3.  Or, at least it is fair to say it looked like that early on.  It seems to have worked out, but it has its own odd behaviours.
[07:44] <ASDF_> freeman: VMware or Virtualbox
[07:44] <thegoodcushion> Another issue - has anyone played SuperTux from ubuntu and got the sound to work?  I can't get sound to work in Supertux
[07:44] <freeman_> hardcold, www.pastebin.com
[07:44] <Jordan_U> !google | Infatuas
[07:44] <ohsix> ppk_: you shouldn't have to do anything for that
[07:44] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: the current version of Fedora?
[07:44] <freeman_> ASDF_, vmware.. i have a license
[07:44] <ohsix> ppk_: perhaps you should describe your problem instead
[07:44] <PythonPup> hardcold.  pastebin.com  will work.  Their are a bunch of pastebins and any of them are fine.
[07:44] <pooltable> hi is there a way to compare other Linux distributions i am not happy with 11.4 set up but like that it is easy to up date any one can help ???
[07:45] <ppk_> its crackly, and it makes the sound in vlc stop.
[07:45] <ASDF_> Just asking, why ubuntu dumped gnome andd use unity instead?
[07:45] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, No, the one in Beta.
[07:45] <freeman_> ASDF_, i think it was to appeal to more people
[07:45] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: Okay, good.  I'm running Fedora 14 and it has GNOME 2.  I don't like the Fedora look and feel as much as Ubuntu
[07:45] <Jordan_U> ASDF_: This is a support channel, not a discussion channel. Please keep on topic or move the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:45] <ASDF_> freeman_: and its not working, instead it backfires
[07:46] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: But if Ubuntu continues to move toward unity and away from GNOME, I'm going to Fedora or Debian
[07:46] <hardcold> PythonPup, http://pastebin.com/sq1nNh5c
[07:46] <uabn93> ppk_: do you use 64 bit?
[07:46] <ppk_> yeah
[07:46] <Etherael> just upgraded to natty and desktop env is almost entirely hosed. Looks like although the ati drivers are reportedly installed they are almost completely useless, 14 fps in glxgears and compiz won't even run at all, what gives?
[07:46] <ChronicSyncope> why is classic gnome so ugly when i right click on things?
[07:46] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, I like Ubuntu better, too.  But, if you want to try GNOME 3, thge Fedora 15 beta is a good place.
[07:46] <ppk_> i installed flash through the software installer
[07:46] <mathews> thegoodcushion: still u can add the PPA for gnome 3 in ubuntu
[07:46] <freeman_> ASDF_, you can always switch shell
[07:47] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: I'm coding a Wikipedia bot so I want to only use release software
[07:47] <ohsix> ppk_: did you attempt to disable or remove pulseaudio?
[07:47] <ASDF_> 10.10 is probably the best
[07:47] <freeman_> or distro
[07:47] <thegoodcushion> PythonPup: I can't run my code on beta anything
[07:47] <ohsix> !best | ASDF_
[07:47] <Ignatus> i can't adjust the volume in my brand spanking new natty system. volume indicator says no label, and clicking prefs gives a waiting for sound system to respond message
[07:47] <ppk_> hmm...no. do i just apt-get remove it?
[07:47] <ohsix> ppk_: no, i asked what you might have done; it was not instructive
[07:47] <uabn93> ppk_: maybe try getting the 64 bit version of flash. youtube has some tutorials
[07:47] <Ultimate_Chaos>  HAPPY BIRTHDAY Ultimate_Chaos! We all love you!
[07:48] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, GNOME 3 is very new.  So, you can try the beta or wait.
[07:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> someone sent that to me
[07:48] <ohsix> ppk_: vlc should not be blocking anything if pulse hasn't been messed with, or vlc has been configured to do a bad thing
[07:48] <ppk_> is the one in the repo not 64 bit?
[07:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh crap
[07:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> sry
[07:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> wrong channel
[07:48] <red2kic> Ultimate_Chaos: It's okay. We all love you.
[07:48] <ppk_> oh yeah, i remembereed i set vlc to use alsa instead of pulse becuase it was cracling/
[07:48] <freeman_> happy birthday !! lol
[07:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> ty
[07:48] <PythonPup> ohsix, the vlc in Natty has some serious problems.
[07:49] <ohsix> PythonPup: i'm not interested in anything but specifics
[07:49] <Etherael> Why was this release made when it seems that things are still very broken?
[07:49] <PythonPup> It is a vlc problem, not a Ubuntu problem.  The memory leaks are bad on OpenSuse 11.4, too
[07:49] <Ignatus> i have sound working, and alsamixer displays al channels. what's up with my indicator then?
[07:49] <freeman_> Etherael, tradition dictates it must be released this month
[07:49] <red2kic> Etherael: Time-based releases, I imagine.
[07:49] <hardcold> I'll spend some hours ding things that should take 10 seconds with a functional OS tomorrow I guess
[07:49] <ppk_> i spose i can go back to pulse in vlc, but how to i stop the crackling
[07:49] <ohsix> ppk_: if it uses alsa and opens hw:0 it will make a mess, make it use pulse & lets find out what the crackling is
[07:50] <Etherael> damn, wish I knew it was a fake release before I upgraded.
[07:50] <ppk_> ok going to change it back now
[07:50] <Etherael> is there a way to rollback quickly?
[07:50] <Etherael> short of a full backup restore?
[07:50] <freeman_> i dont think its that broken
[07:50] <ohsix> PythonPup: good to know, i don't recommend people use vlc anyways ;]
[07:50] <Etherael> it's totally unusable.
[07:50] <PythonPup> hardcold, did you install the libsdl 1.2 or greater and then reboot?
[07:50] <ppk_> so i set vlc to default of to pulse?
[07:50] <red2kic> Etherael: Upgrading = :(
[07:50] <red2kic> Etherael: Clean installion = :)
[07:50] <Etherael> compiz won't run, anything that touches opengl subsystem is thoroughly hosed.
[07:51] <ppk_> or*
[07:51] <red2kic> Etherael: It's just my opinion, keep that in mind.
[07:51] <freeman_> i always clean install
[07:51] <ohsix> ppk_: yes, or don't change the defaults at all
[07:51] <Maahes> how do you set the terminal bell? I'm using zsh and urxvt, and I can't remember how to set this variable. echo -e -n "\a" produces no output
[07:51] <ppk_> yep so the fuz/hiss/crackly is back
[07:51] <thegoodcushion> Alright, let me start a debate: Is it true that 10.04 is less likely to have bugs, or have fewer bugs, than 11.04?  Or is the benefit really that one does not need to upgrade/relearn things/upgrade hardware/etc?
[07:51] <Ignatus> clean install = :/
[07:52] <ohsix> thegoodcushion: this is not the place for debate, this is a help channel
[07:52] <Maahes> isn't vlc the only free media player with hardware accel
[07:52] <ZykoticK9> Maahes, mplayer
[07:52] <thegoodcushion> It seems to me that no release is every truly stable.  There are always bugfixes and new releases etc
[07:52] <Maahes> thegoodcushion: neither of those things is really a true statement.
[07:52] <ppk_> N.B. it also pops when i adjust the volume with my keyboard
[07:52] <ohsix> ppk_: ok post the output of pacmd ls to a pastebin
[07:52] <PythonPup> Maahes, Doen's Mplayer have hardware accel?
[07:52] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: What distro did you try?
[07:53] <freeman_> you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:53] <Infatuas> well, i think that's a valid question from "thegoodcusion"; help directive
[07:53] <PythonPup> Maahes, Doesn't Mplayer have hardware accel?
[07:53] <Maahes> its very particular to your hardware/software environment
[07:53] <ohsix> thegoodcushion: the "stable" part is a steady version of the software that receives backports and fixes
[07:53] <Maahes> PythonPup: I wouldn't be the one to know, since I asked if vlc was the only one.
[07:53] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: I went from 9.04 to 10.10 and I went back to 10.04 rather than use 11.04 because I like GNOME
[07:53] <jo-erlend> thegoodcushion, I use 10.04LTS on my desktop. It's very stable and I'm going to use it until may-june 2012.
[07:53] <uabn93> ppk_: I like using xbmc. great media center. great software. you should try it.
[07:53] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: ASDF_: Others:  You kept forgetting about LTS -- That's at 10.04
[07:53] <Maahes> thegoodcushion: 10.04 has gnome.
[07:53] <PythonPup> Maahes, so, take my question as a hint and check.
[07:53] <mathews> many people here waits to get their answer for their doubt.so pls fill here ur debate
[07:54] <jo-erlend> thegoodcushion, Classic Ubuntu in 11.04 uses gnome-panel. It's just a matter of choosing the session once. It takes about 3 seconds.
[07:54] <Maahes> 11.04 also has gnome
[07:54] <mathews> many people here waits to get their answer for their doubt.so pls dont fill here ur debate
[07:54] <Maahes> how do you set the terminal bell? I'm using zsh and urxvt, and I can't remember how to set this variable. echo -e -n "\a" produces no output
[07:54] <bazhang> mathews, noted
[07:54] <ppk_> http://pastebin.com/9GNgCHmN.
[07:54] <freeman_> its true he's been asking for a long time
[07:54] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:55] <a2j> hi
[07:55] <thegoodcushion> ok I'm going to offtopic channel
[07:55]  * Maahes wishes still that there was a non-trivial ubuntu support channel, so I could ask questions about terminal settings and gconf that were likely to get answered in the same day they were asked in
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Maahes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcanberra/+bug/486154
[07:56] <freeman_> lol thats funny
[07:56] <kz3> someone please help me install metasploit on ubuntu 10.10
[07:57] <sebastian> sorry, a question. Anyone knows why in ubuntu 11.4 i have not the option to add graphic effects in the windows (ej: you mve the windows and it defforms itself while you move it)?
[07:57] <NictraSavios> kz3 i will :)
[07:57] <a2j> trying to compress folder on samba share, getting "No such file or directory" error. any ideas?
[07:57] <NictraSavios> kz3 White hat hacker at your serverice :)
[07:57] <Maahes> Jordan_U: ....that's fricken evil
[07:57] <phibxr> sebastian, did you install compizconfig-settings-manager?
[07:57] <freeman_> sebastian, open terminal and type: ccsm
[07:58] <ppk_> just checking ohsix did you see my paste bin link? http://pastebin.com/9GNgCHmN
[07:58] <kz3> NictraSavios: thanks dude
[07:58] <bullgard4> sebastian: You probably did not activate or install compiz.
[07:58] <NictraSavios> kz3,  Simple, Get it , http://www.metasploit.com/download/ , And then RTM http://dev.metasploit.com/redmine/projects/framework/wiki/Install_Linux
[07:58] <sebastian> ups, the installation dont do it i see......
[07:58] <PythonPup> sebastion, and there is no such thing as Ubuntu 11.4.
[07:59] <freeman_> there is no spoon
[07:59] <Infatuas> lolz, NictraSavios
[07:59] <sebastian> no ubuntu 11.4? xD
[07:59] <PythonPup> 11.04 is the version of the latest
[07:59] <sebastian> i will search for compiz
[07:59] <ohsix> ppk_: ok, first thing to test, add tsched=0 after load-module module-udev-detect in /etc/pulse/default.pa, restart pulse with pulseaudio -k
[07:59] <ramin> guys, how much performance is lost when you upgrade to natty? Rather than just installing a fresh new system
[07:59] <PythonPup> it is year, followed by 2 digit month
[07:59] <freeman_> sebastian, in terminal type: ccsm
[08:00] <PythonPup> ramin, none
[08:00] <ohsix> ramin: there are gains and losses with shifts between versions; you didn't ask a question anyone can answer
[08:00] <mathews> ramin; do a fresh install rather try for an upgrade
[08:00] <freeman_> ramin, they are having that debate right now in #ubuntu-offtpoic
[08:00] <sameerkof> can anyone tell me why i am unable to write in my file system ?
[08:00] <ohsix> ramin: find someone who has ran benchmarks on eachversion against a feature you care about
[08:00] <mathews> freeman: u said it
[08:00] <PythonPup> sameerkof, Maybe it is a CD.
[08:01] <ramin> I'm kind of rather just surprised at some of the speeds
[08:01] <hell_> need help on speakers
[08:01] <ramin> performance is a little low
[08:01] <freeman_> mattews, i am kind of reading it right now :P
[08:01] <sameerkof> PythonPup, not its not .. :P its installed in my hd .
[08:01] <multi_io> is there any video editor that works reliably?
[08:01] <ramin> maybe it's only because there is so much compiz involved
[08:01] <bullgard4> !sound | hell_
[08:01] <ohsix> mathews: as much as you hear about failed upgrades, you never hear the circumstances or why; so if you could hold off on recommending that here i'd appreciate it
[08:01] <Jordan_U> ramin: There should be no performance differece between upgrading and installing fresh, unless before you upgraded you installed a lot of resource intensive services.
[08:01] <multi_io> avidemux produces stuttering sound here when using the resize filter
[08:01] <Maahes> Jordan_U: other than getting the source and applying that patch is there any other way to change this? i.e. ppa?
[08:01] <sebastian> i already have the "compiz", but when i go to the terminal and type "ccsm" it says that the "ccsm" is not installed
[08:01] <pooltable> is there a linux mint channel ???
[08:01] <PythonPup> multi_io, I have used PitiVi for some light editing on Ubuntu
[08:02] <Jordan_U> !mint | pooltable
[08:02] <freeman_> sebastian, does it tell you how to get it
[08:02] <ramin> I see, thanks guys, I'll keep looking around
[08:02] <mathews> ohsix:I agree u
[08:02] <bullgard4> pooltable: 3 question marks in a row are two too much.
[08:02] <pooltable> thanks
[08:02] <sameerkof> why i can't paste anything in my system file folder :S
[08:02] <ohsix> sebastian: ccsm is in compizconfig-settings-manager, didn't it say that along with the error message?
[08:02] <uabn93> why isn't that new kernel in 11.04 available in 10.10?
[08:02] <freeman_> sebastian, in terminal: sudo apt-get install ccsm
[08:02] <pooltable> bullgrad4 sory finger slip
[08:03] <sebastian> thanks, i have not read all the message
[08:03] <ohsix> uabn93: because that's not what happens, new versions of any given package are generally not available after a release
[08:03] <PythonPup> sameerkof, Do you mean /bin or similar?  It is owned by root and you are trying to paste as a user.
[08:03] <pooltable> i have 11.4 but do not like the new set up
[08:03] <op_amp> Hi, when I tried to update to Natty, I got following error. Can not mark xubunut-desktop for upgrade. http://i.imgur.com/ypYh2.png
[08:03] <freeman_> sebastian, no problem :)
[08:03] <op_amp> *upgrade
[08:03] <ohsix> uabn93: if you have a real reason to want the new kernel there are things you can do, but i only recommend it if you can't get your video to work; and only to help finding a fix to backport
[08:04] <Maahes> Jordan_U: or actually, is there a way to get the bell to load a system sound to ubuntu?
[08:04] <actionmannn> Ubuntu11.04 32bit "Time&DateSettings" BROKEN       I cannot set/adjust time and date preferences. Any1 confirm this ?
[08:04] <Jordan_U> op_amp: How are you trying to upgrade?
[08:04] <PythonPup> uabn93, There are issues when you move between major kernel versions.  Ubuntu never does this during a release and support cycle.  Fedora does and things sometimes break.
[08:04] <op_amp> Jordan_U, update-manager -d
[08:04] <carandraug> Hi! I've been contributing for several projects. They all use different revision control systems. I have SVN, git, mercurial and bazaar and I'm starting to confuse them. I just tried to do a git update on a hg repository. Is there any program that checks which system is the correct and translates to the correct thing?
[08:04] <Etherael> where is the super+a hotkey configured? it's gobbling something else I want to use and I need to disable it.
[08:05] <Jordan_U> op_amp: The '-d' shouldn't be needed as 11.04 has been released.
[08:05] <bullgard4> op_amp: Your error message clearly states at least 3 measures to take. Did you do all of them?
[08:05] <Maahes> carandraug: you might try #git, since git has plugins for all those repository types.
[08:05] <Etherael> and how do I disable launcher?
[08:05] <sameerkof> i want to paste files in /usr/share there is no paste option and when i try to change permission it says u are not the owner to change these permission ? well i am using admin account ?
[08:05] <ohsix> op_amp: -d is only for upgrading to development versions
[08:05] <pooltable> irc://freenode/%23linuxmint-help how do i join this ?
[08:05] <uabn93> So when upgrades are available through update manager they are just minor and not as big as the one available in 11.04 right?
[08:06] <uabn93> kernel upgrades
[08:06] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: The only measure suggested in that error message is filing a bug report.
[08:06] <Maahes> pooltable: /join #linuxmint-help
[08:06] <ohsix> carandraug: theres no real way to translate the different commands
[08:06] <Inumedia> I'm trying to run a terminal command from a launcher on Maverick, yet when I run the launcher it just doesn't do anything.
[08:06] <hell_> any one else running on a vaio?
[08:06] <Inumedia> Yet the command I used, works perfectly in the terminal.
[08:06] <pooltable> irc.spotchat.org
[08:06] <PythonPup> sameerkof, if youy really know what you are doing there, try doing it in a root nautilus shell.   Go to a terminal prompt and type    sudo nautilus /usr
[08:06] <Inumedia> Why does it not work from the launcher?
[08:06] <freeman_> Etherael, have you tried compiz settings?
[08:06] <ppk_> ohsix_ should the restart have any output?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: What command?
[08:06] <Etherael> freeman_: Where in compiz settings? launcher is a compiz thing or.. ?
[08:06] <ohsix> carandraug: as has been suggested already, you might just import anything into git for local work; that's what i do, even if i'm preparing patches for projects with other cvs
[08:07] <ohsix> ppk_: nope, see if the crackle is still there
[08:07] <Inumedia> Jordna_U: "java -Xmx1024m -Xms512m -cp ~/Downloads/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
[08:07] <Inumedia> Without quotes, of course.
[08:07] <freeman_> there is a commands section in it
[08:07] <Etherael> ~.
[08:07] <bullgard4> uabn93: No.
[08:07] <ppk_> its gone, but the volume control appears to be gone
[08:07] <freeman_> bindings etc
[08:07] <carandraug> Maahes, I don't want to convert them all to one. I was looking more for one program that would look into the directory I was messing with and "translated" correctly. For example, urcs update /path_to_local_repo. It would check which system is on that repository and then do hg update or git pull according
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: The launcher is not a shell, '~' will not be expanded to your home directory.
[08:07] <Inumedia> Ah.
[08:07] <Inumedia> Alright, thanks.
[08:07] <PythonPup> uabn93, correct
[08:07] <actionmannn> "Time&Date Settings" BROKEN I am unable to adjust the date/time in Ub11.04 32bit
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Inumedia: You're welcome.
[08:07] <op_amp> bullgard4, I didn't quite understand the causes. The last one might be the root of the problem as I did build some packages from source code. Removing them.
[08:07] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: No. Please re-read. Three more are suggested.
[08:08] <Maahes> carandraug: um, an IDE might do it, possibly eclipse or emacs...actually almost certainly emacs.
[08:08] <uabn93> bullard4: are you tying to throw me off? lol
[08:08] <freeman_> Inumedia, try reporting it as a bug. it might be included soon
[08:08] <Maahes> if you like that OS.
[08:08] <freeman_> Inumedia, i think its a good idea :)
[08:08] <ohsix> bullgard4: still doesn't matter; he stated he wanted to upgrade to natty not a development version
[08:09] <Inumedia> Alright.
[08:09] <Inumedia> freeman_: Care to give me a link to where I'd report it? :P
[08:09] <freeman_> sure
[08:09] <vabigoon> hi, is there any way to force terminal not to close after running program in python, started by activator?
[08:09] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: It's late for me so I may be missing something obvious but what other measures do you see suggested in http://i.imgur.com/ypYh2.png ? Please list them.
[08:09] <ohsix> ppk_: pulse might have not restarted from the sounds of things, see that it is; config might have got mangled with the edits
[08:10] <ohsix> ppk_: try running pulseaudio -vvvv
[08:10] <freeman_> Inumedia, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[08:10] <carandraug> ohsix, oh! Now I see what they mean. Thanks
[08:10] <ppk_>  main.c: Unknown command: tsched=0
[08:10] <ppk_>  main.c: Unknown command: tsched=0
[08:10] <ppk_>  main.c: Failed to initialize daemon.
[08:10] <havane> hi
[08:11] <carandraug> Maahes, hmmm.. I love gedit. Wonder if there's a plugin for gedit that does it. Thanks
[08:11] <freeman_> Inumedia, look at bug #1 on the site https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[08:11] <freeman_> for a laugh :)
[08:11] <ohsix> ppk_: add it on the same line as the udev-detect one
[08:11] <Etherael> I can't believe how badly this is broken, for a pushed update on an LTS o_O.
[08:11] <mathews> pls help me to connect VPN. I did as I was doing in 10.10 but here it not working but says VPN service failed to start
[08:11] <freeman_> Etherael, what exactly are you having problems with
[08:11] <PythonPup> Etherael, 11.04 is not an LTS
[08:11] <Inumedia> freeman_: I'll let you know when it loads :P
[08:12] <Etherael> freeman_: I was having problems with getting any kind of opengl working, now it appears to work, just extremely badly.
[08:12] <Etherael> like random compiz crashes, unable to enable cube plugin.
[08:12] <ppk_> like so? http://pastebin.com/vtcUbt8L
[08:12] <Jordan_U> Etherael: 11.04 is not LTS, and is not offered as an upgrade from 10.04 LTS.
[08:12] <Etherael> framerate under 20fps
[08:12] <Etherael> on a HD 5870
[08:12] <Maahes> carandraug: probably not, gedit has a fairly limited plugin selection. Especially compared to Eclipse/Vim/Emacs
[08:12] <freeman_> im not having any problems with opengl.
[08:12] <ohsix> ppk_: yep
[08:13] <Etherael> Jordan_U: So the .04 = LTS convention no longer holds?
[08:13] <tsimpson> Etherael: that's not a convention at all
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Etherael: There never was such a convention.
[08:13] <Inumedia> freeman_: Hah. :P
[08:13] <PythonPup> Etherael, It never held.  The LTS releases are every other year.
[08:13] <freeman_> :P
[08:13] <ohsix> Etherael: sounds like no driver for acceleration is being loaded, look and see if it says "software" in the output of glxinfo
[08:13] <tsimpson> Etherael: LTS are released every 2 years usually
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Etherael: 7.04 and 9.04 were also not LTS.
[08:14] <ppk_> re did -k and no output then re did -vvvv and got this  http://pastebin.com/s2fKxRe1
[08:14] <Etherael> ohsix: I don't think so http://pastie.org/1852707
[08:14] <html_inprogress> my dvd /iso burner stop work:(
[08:14] <Etherael> it just looks like fglrx is a spectacularly bad performer.
[08:14] <Etherael> no idea why.
[08:14] <Etherael> was working fine back in 10.10
[08:15] <ohsix> no idea brah
[08:15] <Etherael> hell with this, I'll just install the latest fglrx from the ati site, if it's still royally broken I'll do a full restore and stick to 10.10.
[08:15] <ohsix> ppk_: right, part of that is the reason for checking if it goes away with tsched too
[08:16] <ohsix> ppk_: except disabling tsched also covers another bad driver problem with timing & wakeups, that after you suspect you have it, theres another tool to confirm
[08:16] <ppk_> so what should i do next
[08:17] <ohsix> ppk_: try what you did befre and see if it crackles
[08:17] <freaky[t]> how do i set the default program used for .torrent files?= it uses ktorrent because i installed kubuntu-desktop but i want it to use transmission ...
[08:17] <ppk_> sorry, in confused, do i leave tsched in the config file?
[08:18] <brandonc503_> hey all
[08:18] <DrLight20XX> hey
[08:18] <freeman_> hello
[08:18] <Maahes> is there a way to get the bell (as a terminal environment, I am not using gnome-terminal) to load a system sound to ubuntu?
[08:18] <brandonc503_> how would i go about trying to use Dreamweaver on my windows comp, to edit files live on my linux box?
[08:19] <green_> I'm having troubles with my sound, with banshee playing in sound preferences applications there is no meter like thing and tere is no sound, any ideas? it worked before btw the codec is alc260
[08:19] <freeman_> windows cannot read the filesystem ubuntu uses
[08:19] <PythonPup> brandonc503_, Install wine and try running it under that.
[08:19] <freeman_> you would have to make a ntfs partition
[08:19] <brandonc503_> i want to use dreamweaver to access my server like i use it to access godaddy server i have
[08:20] <celthunder> brandonc503_: install an ftpd
[08:20] <Solnse> just set up your server info in dreamweaver  the same you set up godaddy info
[08:20] <Madpilot> brandonc503_, there is apparently a plugin to allow Windows to read ext3 and ext4; I don't run Windows anymore so I know nothing more than that.
[08:20] <DrLight20XX> hmm
[08:20] <jrt4> brandonc503_, Use sshd not ftpd
[08:20] <brandonc503_> the ftpd is what im looking towards
[08:20] <brandonc503_> sshd huh.. googleing
[08:21] <Solnse> brandon, you are simply trying to access a different web server, your own, instead of godaddy right? On your windows box... you simply set up the info in dreamweaver for the ftp the same you did for godaddy.
[08:21] <ppk_> ohsix: im back sorry
[08:22] <ohsix> ppk_: yes, and pulse is running, play some sounds
[08:22] <mathews> pls help me to connect VPN. I did as I was doing in 10.10 but here it not working but says VPN service failed to start
[08:22] <ohsix> freeman_: right clck on a torrent file, properties, open
[08:22] <Etherael> Nope, that broke opengl utterly, ok, doing a full system restore, after I just copy the files back over this partition, what's the command to tell grub to install again etc?
[08:22] <Cavisty^gerber> why does discovery channel fucking start ad shows at 3 am?
[08:22] <Cavisty^gerber> and not later?
[08:22] <Cavisty^gerber> 3 am isnt that late
[08:22] <ohsix> er
[08:22] <FloodBot3> Cavisty^gerber: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:22] <mathews> what service I need to install to get it.I did openvpn as in 10.10
[08:22] <brandonc503_> i dont have ftp set up on my linux yet
[08:22] <ppk_> yeah appears to be working. still crackles when i move the volume dial. but otherwise seems solid
[08:22] <html_inprogress> whats wrong with my software dvd burner? ubuntu 10.04
[08:23] <ohsix> freeman_ -> freaky[t]
[08:23] <Cavisty^gerber> and i wanna watch tv right now
[08:23] <freeman_> ohsix, im so confused lol
[08:23] <freaky[t]> ohsix: yes i want to set the default program used as i said ...
[08:23] <freaky[t]> ohsix: i dont want to have to first browse to the .torrent file and then rightclick
[08:23] <Jordan_U> !ot | Cavisty^gerber
[08:23] <ohsix> ppk_: ok theres a problem with the driver for your device on that machine, remove the tsched stuff & restart pulse again
[08:23] <freaky[t]> ohsix: i want to open it right from my browser
[08:23] <Hoyt> hi , how can i load a kernel module automatically and sepcify a parameter for it ?
[08:24] <ohsix> freaky[t]: i can't help what you don't want; i told you how to do it
[08:24] <ppk_> ok, done
[08:24] <Hoyt> i'm looking for the configuration file , seems /etc/modules doesn't support parameters
[08:24] <ohsix> Hoyt: look at the files in /etc/modprobe.d for examples
[08:24] <freaky[t]> ohsix: no u didnt
[08:24] <freaky[t]> ohsix: nm
[08:24] <ohsix> freaky[t]: ;]
[08:24] <freeman_> lol
[08:25] <Hoyt> done , thanks
[08:25] <freeman_> has anyone found out a way to show desktop on dock?
[08:25] <freaky[t]> ohsix: sorry u were right i didnt read correctly
[08:26] <ohsix> ppk_: read the whole thing, tool to test is about halfway down http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/BrokenSoundDrivers
[08:26] <ohsix> freaky[t]: no harm no foul
[08:26] <freaky[t]> ohsix: thanks for oyur help
[08:28] <freaky[t]> how do i open a java program from within the gnome taskbar or shortcut bar ... i would like to add it but dont know how
[08:28] <freaky[t]> wait i think i got it
[08:28] <freeman_> if you find out let me know
[08:29] <red2kic> Testing Gnome3. Hmmm!
[08:29] <red2kic> freaky[t]: Use Launcher. Put the proper command in it.
[08:29] <jo-erlend> you can add sortcuts to the dash by adding .desktop-files to /usr/share/applications, but is there a personal way to do it? That is, to add .desktop-files to a folder in your home and make them appear in your dash?
[08:30] <ppk_> ohsix: i get this error when i try to run the gcc command, http://pastebin.com/aEBUTvw2
[08:30] <freaky[t]> red2kic: yes i did that thanks
[08:30] <freaky[t]> !gnome3
[08:31] <ohsix> ppk_: apt-get install libasound2-dev
[08:31] <freeman_> jo-erlend, create a folder?
[08:31] <brandonc503_> Seems i need to make a user on my comp and set the home directory.. is there a typical folder i should make as its home direcotry?
[08:31] <jo-erlend> freeman_, pardon?
[08:31] <brandonc503_> ...for ftping
[08:32] <freeman_> how do you add .desktop-files to /usr/share/applications
[08:32] <DirtyDawg> i have found that alot of people laugh (lol) when i say that i use Ubuntu, why is that? anyone know, i like it :(
[08:32] <adsx> does anyone know how to completly remove  unity and install gnome3 ?
[08:33] <red2kic> DirtyDawg: Who were those 'alot of people' -- Windows users? Lol.
[08:33] <DirtyDawg> Gentoo users
[08:33] <Jordan_U> !ot | DirtyDawg
[08:33] <DirtyDawg> kk
[08:33] <red2kic> !gnome3 | adsx
[08:34] <red2kic> adsx: Consider it a warning. :<
[08:34] <adsx> has anyone tried it ?
[08:34] <freeman_> buckle your seat belts lol
[08:34] <DeejayRoby4> hello guys, I'm having a problem with the installation of natty because it tells me that it finds a Error installing the grub and it offers me three choices: do not install ubuntu, do not install grub, and try to reinstall it, but the problem is that if I click ok nothing happens
[08:34] <adsx> can anyone comment what actually happened ond doing so ?
[08:35] <ohsix> ppkare you using 10.10 or 11.04?
[08:35] <Rehan> is there a way to theme a single icon in gnome's panel? (don't want to change my entire theme, just want to make one system tray icon fit into it)
[08:36] <ohsix> Rehan: theres a way to overlay local icons ettings but i don't know what it is, i'd read the icon spec on fd.o D:
[08:36] <Rehan> ohsix: cool, whats fd.o ? Also, do you ever sleep? :P
[08:36] <DeejayRoby4> hello guys, I'm having a problem with the installation of natty because it tells me that it finds a Error installing the grub and it offers me three choices: do not install ubuntu, do not install grub, and try to reinstall it, but the problem is that if I click ok nothing happens
[08:37] <ohsix> Rehan: freedesktop.org
[08:37] <ohsix> Rehan: soon, soon
[08:37] <Rehan> ohsix: haha nice, what timezone are you in
[08:37] <ohsix> PST
[08:37] <Rehan> ohsix: cool, same here, in SF
[08:37] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, That is not a good error.  I'd try installing 10.10 and seeing if that worked.
[08:37] <Guest__> hey
[08:38] <DeejayRoby4> nobody knows?
[08:38] <Guest__> could I get some help..
[08:38] <BiosElement> Guest__: Just ask the question. ^_^
[08:38] <ohsix> DeejayRoby4: more specifically, nobody answered
[08:38] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, Most likely, it indicates a problem with the disk.
[08:38] <Rehan> !ask | Guest__
[08:38] <ppk_> ohsix: i got this error http://pastebin.com/NXbTULi0
[08:39] <Fleck> anyone can install fglrx on natty?
[08:39] <Guest__> could i GET ONE OF YOU TO TEST OUT 
[08:39] <Guest__> my shell..
[08:39] <Solnse> lol
[08:39] <html_inprogress> whay is it?
[08:39] <PythonPup> Fleck, anybody who wanted to and had a ATI video card.
[08:39] <Guest__> and beta test the first ever public Zx86/64 beta server?
[08:39] <html_inprogress> yes
[08:39] <ohsix> ppk_: you need to run it on the idlest machine possible
[08:40] <Guest__> 173.13.234.122 port 202... **
[08:40] <DeejayRoby4> @ohsix not true  @PythonPup Maverick is working
[08:40] <Guest__> 173.13.234.122
[08:40] <ohsix> ppk_: but that could signal another driver problem too
[08:40] <Fleck> i whant, and cant...
[08:40] <Guest__> por t 20023 telnet
[08:40] <ppk_> how long should it take?
[08:40] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[08:40] <Guest__> take about 10 minutes.
[08:40] <ppk_> and what will the result be?
[08:40] <Guest__> I'd really appreciate it.
[08:40] <Cairo|Mac> has anyone seen anything like this before?
[08:40] <Cairo|Mac> http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8213/img3503a.jpg
[08:41] <Guest__> 173.13.234.122 20023 telnet
[08:41] <Fleck> smileys :D ?
[08:41] <Guest__> you wont have to login.. I'll do that for you..
[08:41] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, You are using the released version of 11.04, I hope.  There was a bug that was fixed related to grub in the alpha versions.
[08:41] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, maverick works correctly
[08:41] <Guest__> it tarts off as a guided tour then you get to play.
[08:41] <Guest__> anyone?
[08:42] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, yes, the release version
[08:42] <Soothsayer> what's the shortcut to launch Nautilus (preferably with home directory opened) ?
[08:42] <Soothsayer> Just like how Ctrl + Alt + T opens terminal
[08:42] <ppk_> doesnt matter il do it and il be back.
[08:43] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, Are you trying a fresh install of 11.04 and having the problem there?  Or, is this an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[08:43] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, it is a fresh install
[08:43] <Etherael> is there another way to do hotkey binding for workspaces? it looks like the compiz cube / rotate cube plugins are completely hosed in natty
[08:43] <PythonPup> So, seeing that it does not work, have you tried upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04?
[08:43] <Etherael> ie super+shift1 = go to workspace 1
[08:44] <ohsix> cadmium: ati or intel?
[08:44] <ohsix> grr
[08:44] <ohsix> Cairo|Mac: ati or intel
[08:44] <Cairo|Mac> intel i think
[08:44] <Etherael> ah, found one.
[08:44] <Etherael> phew, a usable system again.
[08:44] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I can't it's elementary os and still I could not, because I just rewrote the partition table
[08:45] <Etherael> for anyone else experiencing graphics hell with natty on fglrx, set v-blank to off.
[08:45] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: intel
[08:45] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, Do a fresh install of 10.10 and then upgrade.  I know it takes a while., but it is my only suggestion at the moment.
[08:45] <cadmium> intel I think
[08:46] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, the image (in italian) http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2elwlma&s=7
[08:46] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, I see nothing.  I don't run javascript.  The site may use it.
[08:47] <ohsix> Cairo|Mac: what was supposed to be on the screen? i've seen corruption like that but with defined contents
[08:47] <Cairo|Mac> text
[08:47] <Cairo|Mac> its the alt-F1 screen
[08:47] <ohsix> in what?
[08:47] <Cairo|Mac> forgotten waht its called
[08:48] <Cairo|Mac> Ubuntu 11.04
[08:48] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, now? http://oi51.tinypic.com/2elwlma.jpg
[08:48] <ohsix> the ctrl-alt-f1 screen?
[08:48] <ohsix> alt-f1 opens the applications menu
[08:48] <virgo> i have ubuntu 10.10 Netbook and for some time now my software center doesnt work
[08:48] <virgo> when i execute it, the window never appeares, it only shows on taskbar for few sec
[08:49] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: yeah that
[08:49] <ohsix> virgo: open a terminal and try running it from there (software-center) it will show some output
[08:49] <ohsix> Cairo|Mac: post the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, You could try it.  /dev/sda is most likely correct.  But, I am telling you that once you get to this point, you most likely will not have a bootable system.
[08:50] <Sharan> Fuck Unity
[08:50] <Furai`> Hello.
[08:50] <Sharan> Fuck Gnome shell
[08:50] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: i wouldnt be able to copy and paste it...
[08:50] <Cairo|Mac> 1) its text mode
[08:50] <Cairo|Mac> 2) i cant tell what the text is
[08:50] <Cairo|Mac> 3) i dont have a text browser
[08:50] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, One option for now might be to continue without a bootloader and then boot from the CD again and tell it to boot from the first hard drive.
[08:50] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, you do not understand the problem, I can not click ok
[08:51] <ohsix> Cairo|Mac: no need to paste it from text mode, unless its all you can get
[08:51] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup nothing appears if I click ok!!
[08:51] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, tab to it and press enter.
[08:51] <ohsix> Sharan: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:51] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: yes it is
[08:51] <ohsix> Sharan: this is a help channel
[08:51] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup I've done it!!
[08:51] <ohsix> Cairo|Mac: sounds more severe than i can help you with at the moment
[08:51] <Sharan> oopss!!!!
[08:51] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: kk
[08:51] <ppk_> ohsix i ran it again on a compleatly idle system and same error exactly, but it did run longer and made a bigger log file 150mg vs 790mg
[08:52] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, Are you ok now, or do you mean you tried that and it did not work?
[08:52] <ohsix> ppk_: ok
[08:52] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I've troed that and it did not work
[08:52] <64MAAHHBY> kwrite
[08:52] <virgo> ohsix: i did paste the output to there http://paste.ubuntu.com/601637/
[08:53] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I've tried*
[08:53] <ohsix> virgo: it looks like it's having a problem loading an icon
[08:53] <virgo> yes
[08:54] <virgo> that what it says in estonian also :p
[08:54] <Ubuntu_user> I found a bug in NATTY.
[08:54] <atdprhs> Hello
[08:54] <atdprhs> everyone
[08:54] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, So, you'll have to power cycle the machine and try repairing grub2, if you want.
[08:54] <virgo> so, can i reinstall it or something?
[08:54] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[08:54] <ohsix> ppk_: you should have enough information to start askingn about possible problems and getting them fixed on the alsa mailinglist
[08:54] <atdprhs> I'm stuck on something in Ubuntu server 10.10, is there anyone here have 5 minute free?
[08:54] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show me any entries. Does this mean that there are no Ubuntu classrooms in May, 2011?
[08:55] <ohsix> bullgard4: find nhandler and ask him?
[08:55] <ppk_> can you tell me how to do that?
[08:55] <Ubuntu_user> atdprhs:  just ask your question
[08:55] <atdprhs> okayz
[08:55] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I can try this way but the install is not completed!
[08:55] <PythonPup> atdprhs, Ask your question and if someone can help with it, they will speak up.
[08:55] <bullgard4> ohsix: Not practical. He stands for the community there.
[08:55] <ohsix> ppk_: you send an email :] you could ask in #pulseaudio, coling or one of the other people might be able to help; or even file & follow up for you, but right now i've got to go to sleep
[08:55] <atdprhs> my Ubuntu server were running good but suddenly it lost connection when I tried to connect to it later
[08:55] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, right.  That is why I said earlier, I would recommend installing 10.10 and upgrading.
[08:55] <atdprhs> but I found out after walking around in it
[08:56] <atdprhs> that my eth0 is not managed?
[08:56] <ppk_> ok
[08:56] <ohsix> bullgard4: hm?
[08:56] <atdprhs> how? and  why? I don't understand :S
[08:56] <ppk_> thanks for all your help!
[08:56] <Ubuntu_user> I found a bug in NATTY.  It is unable to  execute .sh file.
[08:56] <ohsix> ppk_: thanks for probably getting the driver fixed! :D
[08:56] <atdprhs> 8-)?
[08:56] <ohsix> bullgard4: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/nhandler
[08:56] <PythonPup> Ubuntu_user, I execute lots of .sh files under Naty.  So, I proved you wrong.
[08:57] <Ubuntu_user> PythonPup:  have you tried jdk 6 or netbeans 7.0
[08:57] <PythonPup> Ubuntu_user, did you make your files executable?
[08:57] <Ubuntu_user> PythonPup:  lol, ofcourse yes
[08:57] <PythonPup> Ubuntu_user, please.  I would not install java.
[08:57] <ohsix> PythonPup: you can skip that step too
[08:58] <bullgard4> ohsix: Ah, this is a practical way. I will use it. Thank you for your help.
[08:58] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: the sun jdk/jre is in the partner repos
[08:58] <Ubuntu_user> PythonPup:  But it wont even install
[08:58] <Cairo|Mac> ohsix: if it makes a difference there was some problem with samba4 when it was updating
[08:58] <ohsix> bullgard4: i've found all the ubuntu related people imminently contactable ;]
[08:58] <PythonPup>  Ubuntu_user What won't install?
[08:59] <tomtit> have just completed a fresh install of Ubuntu 11.04. opened xchat from main menu entered my password only to be inform invalid password?
[08:59] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: netbeans 6.3 is in the repos too
[08:59] <virgo> i did reinstall my software center but still gives same error. Here is the install log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601639/
[08:59] <PythonPup> Ubuntu_user, as ohsix said, enable the partner repository, then search for java and install.
[08:59] <Ubuntu_user> PythonPup:  jdk 6 or netbeans 7.0
[08:59] <bullgard4> ohsix: I have written to the designer of Ubuntu's Update Manager but have not received an answer from him.
[08:59] <Ubuntu_user> ohsix:  even netbeans 6.9 is there...
[08:59] <ohsix> PythonPup: with 11.04 you don't even have to do that, software-center knows how to enable sources that aren't enabled to get at packages
[09:00] <PythonPup> ohsix, OK.  I prefer Synaptic.  But, that is good to know.
[09:00] <Ubuntu_user> ohsix:  if you dont use chmod in 11.04, it gives error
[09:00] <Samo502> hello everybody
[09:00] <PythonPup> hello, Samo502
[09:01] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: i didn't mean running it like ./
[09:01] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: i mean sh ./whatever
[09:01] <Ubuntu_user> ohsix:  i tried the same package in 10.10 worked fine but in 11.04 it dont
[09:01] <Ubuntu_user> ohsix:  okazzz
[09:01] <virgo> ohsix: reinstalling software center didnt help, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601639/
[09:02] <ohsix> virgo: install the icons it's looking for
[09:02] <thauriswulfa> HELP: after many unsuccessfull installation attempts of ubuntu 11.04 I am tired now, Tried booting using dvd, cd, usb drive, even burned dvd at 2x speed as said in the error I got while installation. now I have no os on my system. Even replaced the ram slot as I found about the error on launchpad, but still getting that error no 5 input output error
[09:02] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: nothing changed with the shell that would break running it directly, other things, maybe; but not the shell starting it
[09:02] <ohsix> Ubuntu_user: you should use the jdk/jre in the repos, and netbeans 6.3 if it's sufficient; they will track and update installed files and you don't have to make a mess
[09:03] <PythonPup> thauriswulfa, download 10.10 and see if it installs OK.
[09:03] <SirDidi> is there a more comfortable way to up and download files via ssh besides scp and sftp?
[09:03] <Ubuntu_user> terminal stucks at "running installation wizard" after some time returm to normal state. And no wizard launches
[09:03] <atdprhs> Ubuntu_user
[09:03] <atdprhs> and PythonPup
[09:03] <Samo502> SirDidi: what do you mean more comfortable?
[09:03] <Ubuntu_user> ohsix:  7.0 has better intellisense and php support
[09:03] <PythonPup> SirDidi, you could look at sshfs
[09:04] <atdprhs> i didn't get any reply to my problem :-( from you...
[09:04] <Ubuntu_user> atdprhs:  ??
[09:04] <Samo502> Ubuntu_user: i love Eclipse myself
[09:04] <SirDidi> PythonPup, i know but on the server is no sshfs and i cant install it
[09:04] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, maybe I've figured out the problem! could be because I use a nvidia raid 0?
[09:04] <SirDidi> Samo502, for example scp has no autocomplete
[09:04] <Ubuntu_user> atdprhs:  ahh i told you that you post question if anybody knows it they will surely answer and i dont use server or manage it
[09:05] <PythonPup> On the server, you just need sshd.  On the client, you use sshfs, SirDidi
[09:05] <atdprhs> Okayz...
[09:05] <atdprhs> nevermind
[09:05] <atdprhs> thank you...
[09:05] <SirDidi> PythonPup, oh nice
[09:05] <Ubuntu_user> Samo502:  dear my main question is to resolve this problem and not the software alone
[09:05] <chreestopher> would anyone care to help me to get my sound up and running in my linux distro?
[09:06] <airtonix> I'm looking for a terminal like tilda that lets me split the window like terminator does.
[09:06] <Samo502> Ubuntu_user: i know, i was just putting it out there
[09:06] <Ubuntu_user> Samo502:  yeah thanks i do have it btw...:-)
[09:06] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, perhaps.  If that is it, it would be good of you to report the bug.
[09:06] <SirDidi> PythonPup, Samo502 thx
[09:06] <Ubuntu_user> its awesome for C++
[09:06] <kblin> hi folks
[09:07] <Samo502> i've never been able to get far in C++ with ubuntu myself
[09:07] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, what can i do for install?
[09:07] <miststlkr> PythonPup: Funny this should come up, I came in to ask about setting up another ssh account which has limited access to files, preferably an account which has read-only access.  I think maybe I don't understand how to set up user permissions correctly to do this
[09:08] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, can you wipe out everything currently on the disk?
[09:08] <PythonPup> miststlkr, sounds like good news, then.
[09:08] <Ubuntu_user> ahh i use it and its great, i use it for gtk
[09:08] <Ady^> hello
[09:08] <virgo> how do i install this icon for my software center? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601643/
[09:08] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, i've done it
[09:08] <kblin> I've recently switched my ubuntu system to a new hdd, leaving my win7 install on the old hdd. for some reason the grub2 config misdetects which partition the win7 system is installed on, any idea on how the os prober script does the detection?
[09:08] <Ubuntu_user> but the main problem is still there why netbeans 7.0 does not launch
[09:09] <Ady^> i cam here in order to talk about ubuntu 11.04
[09:09] <Jordan_U> kblin: What makes you think that it has misdetected?
[09:09] <Ubuntu_user> do i need some updates or what
[09:09] <Samo502> kblin: i'm not sure what file that grub2 reads to accomplish something similar to menu.lst, however,
[09:10] <miststlkr> PythonPup: would I have to create a new ubuntu user account that only has the permissions I want this ssh user to have, then have them log in accordingly?
[09:10] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, good, I would go into the bios and remove the nvidia raid.  That is not a very good raid, anyway.  Download the alternale Ubuntu installer and setup a linuxraid(used dmraid, I believe)  It should work reliably.
[09:10] <Ady^> i'm just me or there is some one else who is not plesed with the new changes in ubuntu 11.04 especialy unity?
[09:10] <kblin> Jordan_U: firstly it doesn't boot, secondly, win7 is on the second partition of the drive and the os prober sets root to hd(1,1), and last but not least it sets the UUID of the first partition
[09:10] <PythonPup> miststlkr, Yes, that sound exactly right.
[09:10] <Samo502> kblin: if you want to find out what hd(#,#) your partition is on go to say, GParted, and it'll have /dev/sda1 sda2 etc
[09:10] <Ubuntu_user> kblin:  are you able to geton to win 7
[09:10] <kblin> Samo502: I know it's on /dev/sdb2
[09:10] <axscode> ubuntu+1 requires invitation, anyways, guys i cant find  System->Preferences->Sound->System Beep.
[09:11] <miststlkr> PythonPup: thanks.  I will go read up on how to set the permissions the way I want.   cheers!
[09:11] <Jordan_U> kblin: What happens when you try to boot?
[09:11] <PythonPup> miststlkr, I don't use sshfs often, but I do use scp and ssh all the time.  That is how I do it with those and I expect shfs to beghave similarly.
[09:11] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me  fix it?
[09:11] <Samo502> kblin: i can't say what it is  exactly, but the 2 means it's going to be hd(#, 1)
[09:11] <axscode> i tried echo -e " \a" seems not working also..
[09:11] <Saamm> icnahed mu pointer to black in natty but it rmains white...how i fix this?
[09:11] <kblin> I can only boot win7 if I boot from the second hard drive
[09:11] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, no, I can't, later, I want to install windows in dual boot mode and in any case the hardware raid is faster
[09:11] <Samo502> kblin: i'm not sure what # sdb would apply to
[09:11] <Jordan_U> kblin: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[09:12] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, that is not really a hardware raid.  That is part of the problem.
[09:12] <Ultimate_Chaos> ?
[09:12] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh
[09:12] <shiftingcontrol> I had upgraded 10.10 ->11.04 ,f4 is hanging ,i just opened google and left the page for a minute,f4 gets hung,all short cut stopped working,did any face similar problem ?
[09:12] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, a 3ware card is real hardware raid.
[09:13] <kblin> Jordan_U: sure, let me reconnect the ubuntu disk that I unplugged to boot win7 and look at what win7 thinks it's world should look like
[09:13] <Samo502> kblin: i don't use grub2 i use 1.7 or 1.9 something, so i can't quote to you exactly what it would be ^_^
[09:13] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I do not think I understand, the raid is done entirely on the chipset
[09:13] <kblin> Samo502: grub2 is at version 1.9something
[09:13] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, a 980a chipset
[09:13] <oussama> Hi, what does chroot do??
[09:13] <Samo502> kblin: mine still uses menu.lst, and i don't think 2 does.
[09:14] <miststlkr> PythonPup: I've never heard of shfs, only use scp, ssh and sftp... Ideally what I want is a separate account for someone which will only allow them read-only access to specific directories.  essentially a secure samba share over the internet, now that I am thinking it through
[09:14] <Ubuntu_user> kblin:  are you trying to dual boot win 7 & ubuntu
[09:14] <miststlkr> PythonPup: given that thought, do you thin k there may be an easier way to do this?
[09:14] <genii-around> oussama: It CHanges ROOT to the directory you specify
[09:14] <MrCraig> morning all
[09:14] <PythonPup> PythonPup, not really.  But, this is not the place.  Go google on hardware raid.  You have a software raid done by the bios.  They tell you it is hardware raid, and I used to think that, too.
[09:14] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it?
[09:14] <shiftingcontrol> MrCraig, hi
[09:14] <oussama> example plz
[09:15] <shiftingcontrol> Ultimate_Chaos, even i have the problem
[09:15] <Ultimate_Chaos> yep
[09:15] <PythonPup> miststlkr, sshfs is the filesystem based on ssh
[09:15] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay
[09:15] <Ultimate_Chaos> it goes through the pre login stuff really fast
[09:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> then after i log in
[09:16] <jeija> oussama: if you want to fix your system from a live cd, you chroot in to the system
[09:16] <kblin> Ubuntu_user: yes, but keeping each system on it's own hdd
[09:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> it seems nothing is happening
[09:16] <kblin> Ubuntu_user: and not futzing with the windows drive's hdd
[09:16] <Ubuntu_user> okay so two HDD??
[09:16] <genii-around> oussama: When you chroot to for instance /mnt  and you do chroot /mnt   then it's new root path is /mnt/ and looks for all system binaries in /m,nt/bin as example.
[09:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> then after ten minutes icons load
[09:16] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, If you only have 2 drives in the raid array, a used 3ware controller is fairly cheap and I would buy that and use it on Windows and Ubuntu.  I don't work for or benefit in any way from your buying a 3ware controller.  They just work very well.
[09:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> then 1 mintue everything else
[09:16] <genii-around> */mnt/bin
[09:17] <Ultimate_Chaos> then the system runs super slow
[09:17] <MrCraig> Just got done with a system upgrade, and the new kernel won't  boot - not sure how I go about debugging the problem - any tips?
[09:17] <mysteriousdarren> philipballew:how are you?
[09:17] <Ubuntu_user> kblin:  maybe you could try out easyBCD
[09:17] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, at this moment I can't buy anything
[09:18] <Ultimate_Chaos> any ideas?
[09:18] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, What should I do to make a software raid
[09:18] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, the idea of raid 0 is a little scary, though.  It is anti redundant.  A failure on any drive and you are stuck.  If you really need to combine drives, go with 3 drives and raid 5.  Some redundancy is a good thing.  Drives do fail.
[09:18] <tasslehoff> I'm struggling to get my MacBook Pro keyboard layout right. Shift, Alt & Cmd keys work out of the box, but I have no way to choose 3d level, which I need to get curly/square brackets.
[09:18] <oussama> ok thank you
[09:18] <Samo502> well everybody i'm gonna watch anime then bed so i'm off for now
[09:18] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, There is no good way to do a software raid that is reliable and works on Windows and Linux.
[09:19] <tasslehoff> If I choose "left alt and win is swapped" in layout options, Cmd starts working as Alt, and Shift + Cmd gives me 3d level. Alt does not, however, start to function as Cmd did.
[09:19] <Ultimate_Chaos> OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 6.1.7601 64-bit Uptime: 1day 6hrs 19mins 40secs Total Memory: 3834.9MB Available Memory: 2269.23MB
[09:19] <Ady^> guys
[09:19] <Ady^> i have a major question
[09:19] <Ultimate_Chaos> same
[09:20] <nomicos> Hey there. Can someone help me?
[09:20] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, so if I make a raid software will work only on Linux?
[09:20] <airtonix> !ask | nomicos
[09:20] <Ady^> if ubuntu version 11.04 sucks that much why it was released with so many bugs and inconveniences?
[09:20] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, If you need starage space that either system can see, setup a samba server on Linux on mirrorored or raided drives.  Share it to the Windows and the Linux system.  That can be fast and reliable
[09:20] <Ady^> unity is so buggy and etc..
[09:20] <Ady^> and etc etc..
[09:20] <airtonix> etc
[09:20] <airtonix> :>
[09:21] <Ady^> it sucks big time compare to 10.10
[09:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it? It starts reall fast to the login but is slooow after login.
[09:21] <Ady^> can't you see it?
[09:21] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, there are software raid that works fine in Windows and there is software raid that works fine in Linux.  They are not the same software raid.
[09:21] <airtonix> !troll | Ady^
[09:21] <Jordan_U> !ot | Ady^
[09:21] <airtonix> hoho
[09:21] <Ady^> i'm not trolling
[09:21] <Ady^> i'm comlaining
[09:21] <Ady^> it's a differences//
[09:22] <Jordan_U> Ady^: This is a support channel, not a complaint channel. Take rants elsewhere.
[09:22] <Ady^> i don't like the new changes with unity..
[09:22] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, I do not want space. I want speed, especially on Windows because I play
[09:22] <nomicos> How can I install 11.04 on computer with 10.10 (also I need to minimize 10.10 '/' mount point size)?
[09:22] <Ady^> why is so buggy?
[09:22] <PythonPup> complaints here is trolling.  If you have a specific problem, ask about it.
[09:22] <Ultimate_Chaos> man f u c k e e  a g a i n
[09:22] <Ady^> well let's talk about unity
[09:22] <parasol> i upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04. went smooth :)
[09:23] <Ady^> a big problem the way i see it..
[09:23] <Jordan_U> !language | Ultimate_Chaos
[09:23] <Ubuntu_user> Ultimate_Chaos:  no swearing please
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh
[09:23] <Drknzz> hi Everyone! How can i temporarily disable 3D acceleration in Ubuntu 11.04? Fusion-icon doesnt seem to be working
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> looking for help
[09:23] <Jordan_U> Ady^: This is not a discussion channel. Ask / answer support questions or leave.
[09:23] <chreestopher> can someone help me, im trying to get my sound to work, I load the alsa mixer and it shows the typical sources my card is capable of using, but when i turn the volume up, no sound comes out.... any ideas?
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it? It starts reall fast to the login but is slooow after login.
[09:23] <PythonPup> DeejayRoby4, Do you want the system to support Linux?  Or Windows?  As I said, if you need both, software raid is not a good option.
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> im not trying to spam
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> but there
[09:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> ^^^^
[09:24] <Ady^> ok i have some question then if it's a suport channel..
[09:24] <Ady^> why can't i move icons in unity in the order i want?
[09:24] <html_inprogress> can i get some help ?
[09:24] <DeejayRoby4> PythonPup, you're right, maybe expect too .... Well think about and decide
[09:24] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone in 11.04 go on indicators (mail, music, ...) with mouse pointer (fast) and tell me if showing him white indicators in background of menus? thanks!!
[09:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> im not ignored
[09:25] <nmaxchat> Hello, I am new @ linux. Can someone help me install drop box ?
[09:25] <nmaxchat> I need: GTK 2.12 ou ultérieure/Later
[09:25] <nmaxchat> GLib 2.14 ou ultérieure
[09:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> i just gotta be patient
[09:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> but i have togo soon
[09:25] <nmaxchat> Haha did not get floodbot
[09:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need it soon
[09:25] <Ubuntu_user> So what could be the problem that natty does not launch my sh programs
[09:25] <mahfrkk> hai. where can i get a complete list of unity quicklists?
[09:25] <gac> I tried installing 11.04 this morning and failed. Everything seemed to go OK, but when I rebooted, it appeared that the bootloader wasn't installed properly (I just got my motherboard's generic "no bootable device" message). /var/log/syslog during the installation says that grub-install worked though. Anyone else having similar problems?
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> Ady^:  move what icons where?
[09:25] <Ady^> how can i chose to place icons in the order i want in unity?
[09:26] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone in 11.04 go on indicators (mail, music, ...) with mouse pointer (fast) and tell me if showing him white indicators in background of menus? thanks!!
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> Ady^:  click, hold a moment or 2. and then you can drag them around on the side panel.
[09:26] <Ultimate_Chaos> :(
[09:26] <Ultimate_Chaos> ohhh plz plz plz
[09:26] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: Are you making your sh programs +x ?
[09:26] <Ultimate_Chaos> im in a hurry
[09:26] <omidp> hey guys if i run apt-get upgrade will i do the sames as the upgrade in  system ---> Admistration --> update manager ---> upgrade?
[09:26] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  yes
[09:26] <Ady^> why vlc and audacious must be full screned in order to see menius?
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> omidp:  it should.
[09:26] <Ady^> is there some kind of bug?
[09:26] <Jordan_U> gac: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[09:27] <nmaxchat> how to I know if I have GTK installed ?
[09:27] <jodlajodla> is here anybody with 11.04?
[09:27] <omidp> becuz its more fun in terminal
[09:27] <gac> Jordan_U: no, I've just plugged in a spare SATA drive on its own for the Ubuntu installation
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> Ady^:  the menus for vlc show up here when i move to the top panel.
[09:27] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: Do they have the #!/bin/bash     shebang as first line?
[09:27] <kblin> Jordan_U: http://kblin.org/code/RESULTS.txt is the result of the  boot checker script
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> Ady^:  they just dont appear untill i move to the panel.
[09:27] <green_> anyone else having sound issues in 11.04? worked in 10.10 but nothing in 11.04 can someone help?
[09:27] <PythonPup> omidp, No, they are not the same.
[09:27] <jeija> gac: you could try to fix it with the super grub cd or the ubuntu live cd
[09:27] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: ( or /bin/sh or other shell as you like )
[09:27] <Jordan_U> gac: Is that drive listed in your BIOS?
[09:27] <omidp> then wat should i do?
[09:27] <Ultimate_Chaos> AUTOPOST 30SECS
[09:28] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  i have not made that program, its netbeans 7.0 and jdk 6
[09:28] <jodlajodla> plz help -.-"
[09:28] <stefg> gac: that explains it. grub and the bios seem to disagrre wht the boot drive is
[09:28] <Ady^> how can i chose full efects like i did in ubuntu 10.10 in customization?
[09:28] <gac> jeija: I could, but if this is a bug then I would rather know so I can file it. I don't really need it to work as I'm not a fulltime Ubuntu user :)
[09:28] <PythonPup> omidp, Upgrade in update manager is a version upgrade.  apt-get upgrade installs updates.
[09:28] <gac> Jordan_U: yes, it is
[09:28] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | Ady^
[09:28] <gac> stefg: there's only one drive. how can there be confusion? :)
[09:28] <tasslehoff> is it possible to have Alt choosing 3d level, and still have Ctrl + Alt combos work?
[09:28] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it? It starts reall fast to the login but is slooow after login.
[09:28] <Jordan_U> Ady^: Note that some plugins aren't compatible with Unity, like the Desktop cube.
[09:28] <stefg> gac: didn't you just say you added a sata drive for the install?
[09:28] <lehel_> How to costumize the dash in 11.04? thanks
[09:29] <omidp> @Pythonpup how can i do the same action as update manager in terminal?
[09:29] <Ady^> sorry i have so many questions because ubuntu 11.04 has so many radical changes..
[09:29] <gac> stefg: no, I said I plugged a spare drive in on its own. I.e. not in addition to my working Windows 7 installation
[09:29] <MrCraig> I'm going to give unity a go, but I did like the old hierarchical menus, if I want them back is there a convenient way to switch?
[09:29] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone in 11.04 go on indicators (mail, music, ...) with mouse pointer (fast) and tell me if showing him white indicators in background of menus? thanks!!
[09:29] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: If it is java, and not shell script, are you running the program as like:/usr/bin/java ./local-java-appname
[09:29] <Ultimate_Chaos> is there another ubuntu help channel?
[09:29] <jeija> gac: are you sure both drives are plugged in at the moment?
[09:29] <PythonPup> omidp,   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or something like that.
[09:29] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  I just downloaded netbeans 7.0 from web and executed it, no wizrd comes up ever
[09:29] <stefg> gac: i see... so the ubuntu installer/grub never saw mor than one disk?
[09:30] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  no sh ./path
[09:30] <green_> ok, im done again with ubuntu os
[09:30] <gac> jeija: stefg: no, it can't, there's only the intended Ubuntu disk plugged in right now
[09:30] <stefg> gac: are you on Live CD now?
[09:30] <zerkms> hi there
[09:30] <PythonPup> omidp,   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   was right.
[09:30] <gac> stefg: not right now, I'm IRCing from my laptop. Give me a couple of minutes and I can boot the Live CD
[09:31] <Ultimate_Chaos> asdfjkl;
[09:31] <zerkms> guys, can anyone point me to good nginx + php-fpm howto?
[09:31] <Drknzz> hi Everyone! How can i temporarily disable 3D acceleration in Ubuntu 11.04? Fusion-icon doesnt seem to be working, and i need to disable compiz so flash does work
[09:31] <zerkms> http://library.linode.com/web-servers/nginx/php-fastcgi/ubuntu-10.04-lucid --- is it actual enough?
[09:31] <nmaxchat> a helpful soul ? How do I know if I have
[09:31] <nmaxchat> GTK 2.12 ou ultérieure/Later
[09:31] <nmaxchat> GLib 2.14 ou ultérieure
[09:31] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it? It starts reall fast to the login but is slooow after login.\
[09:31] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: So, you downloaded some source file for netbeans? Why not instead: sudo apt-cache update &&  sudo apt-get install netbeans                            ?
[09:31] <stefg> gac: what you could try is booting the Live CD, chroot into the installed system and reconfigure/reinstall grub
[09:32] <gac> stefg: wouldn't that just be doing the same thing as the installer does though, which isn't working?
[09:32] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: the first command there should be sudo apt-get update and not apt-cache, apologies
[09:32] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  because sudo does not have 7.0 it is for 6.9 only
[09:32] <Jordan_U> gac: Is the drive listed in your BIOS?
[09:32] <gac> Jordan_U: yes, it is
[09:32] <Ultimate_Chaos> IS THERE A SUPPORT FORUM WITH 11.04 DOCUMENTATION
[09:32] <nice_> hi..any msn client which can be able to show youtube videos  embedded?
[09:32] <Jordan_U> !caps | Ultimate_Chaos
[09:33] <gac> Jordan_U: it's also set to the first boot device, and the error also shows up if I boot the LiveCD and then pick "boot from hard drive"
[09:33] <Ubuntu_user> Jordan_U:  lol
[09:33] <stefg> gac: Right, but you try to figure out what the problem is first... look at /etc/grub/default and /boot/grub/grub.cfg .... analys waht grub takes as environment and so on.
[09:33] <virgo> my software-center is still broken, reinstalling didnt help. How do i install the missing icon or how else i can fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601650/
[09:33] <omidp> python dats doenst  work it just shows the updates not upgrades im searching thru google
[09:33] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  thats why i downloaded it and tried to execute, but it works well on 10.10 but not on 11.04
[09:34] <Ultimate_Chaos> its bad in here
[09:34] <virgo> is there a command to install all deps for software-center?
[09:34] <gac> stefg: it's booting now, so I'll take a quick look. My impression is that for some reason grub isn't actually getting into the MBR on my disk, so the config files are probably all sane, but grub isn't actually present and therefore won't read them
[09:35] <PythonPup> omidp,    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    after   sudo apt-get update
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  theres the askubuntu web site that is getting a lot of focus ritght now.
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  ive not even noticed your actual question/problem in here.
[09:35] <stefg> gac: is there some kind of "virus protection" enabled in the bios which prevents write access to the boot sector?
[09:35] <Jordan_U> gac: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[09:35] <az7rb> :)
[09:35] <Ultimate_Chaos> Hello after upgrading my Ubuntu [from 11.04 beta 1 to 11.04 official release0, It takes 10 minutes to load the desktop after login. Can you help me fix it? It starts reall fast to the login but is slooow after login.\
[09:36] <scotty^> nmaxchat - You could look in Synaptic package manager or search the Ubuntu packages on Launchpad.
[09:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> this is the question
[09:36] <PythonPup> omidp, Are you connecting to the computer through ssh, or is it a server?  Otherwise, why not run Update Manager?
[09:36] <gac> stefg: not that I've seen, no. I have checked for that sort of thing. Also it's the same version of the BIOS and same settings that were set when I installed Windows 7 ~6 months ago when I bought the PC. there's a BIOS upgrade which I may try applying shortly
[09:36] <omidp> apt-get dist-upgrade only shows the updates try to run
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  as a test. I would try making a new user. see if the slowness also affects them.
[09:36] <gac> Jordan_U: yeah, I'll have a look at that link, LiveCD is just booting up now
[09:36] <az7rb> Higiss
[09:36] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> hi
[09:36] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> i need helpo
[09:36] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> i need help
[09:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: Ill try it
[09:36] <Gnea> !ask | adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF
[09:36] <omidp> @PythonPup the speed thru terminal is much faster than  update manager
[09:36] <az7rb> How are you doing?
[09:36] <stefg> gac: i'd first try reinstalling (and verifying) grub to the disks mbr
[09:37] <PythonPup> adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF, yes you are very bad at picking irc names.
[09:37] <Ady^> why when i'm whatching a clip on youtube and i want to go on fullscreen it gest stuck?
[09:37] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> my problem is
[09:37] <az7rb> wew :(
[09:37] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  are you there?
[09:37] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> ubuntu runs without any problems since 4 days
[09:37] <AmberJ> Hello
[09:37] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> i missed the blue screens from windows
[09:37] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> HAHA :D
[09:37] <az7rb> فيكم احد من السعودية ؟
[09:37] <PythonPup> omidp, But, if you can run update nmanager, go into its settings and see if it is set to do just long term releases.  I don't know what file that is.
[09:37] <az7rb> ههههههههه
[09:37] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: Mostly. Is 4:30 or so AM
[09:37] <FloodBot3> az7rb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: is there a way to ad an user without logging in. It take forever
[09:38] <AmberJ> Can anyone paste their /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info for ubuntu 10.10 to pastebin?
[09:38] <stefg> Ultimate_Chaos: Create a new user for testing purposes and try if the problem is the same with a fresh account
[09:38] <eddie_> hi
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[09:38] <AmberJ> I bumped into this error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/364092
[09:38] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> when do you go to bed
[09:38] <az7rb> brb
[09:38] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  ahh. its 2:00 pm here
[09:38] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> -
[09:38] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: Anyhow, perhaps to: sudo chmod +x <netbeans-filename.sh>
[09:38] <AmberJ> And, it seems like the problem is in /usr/share/python-apt/templates/Ubuntu.info
[09:38] <gac> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/X2sLaKMy
[09:39] <omidp> i have another question , its about ubuntu studio
[09:39] <Ubuntu_user> genii-around:  okay i try that too
[09:39] <Jordan_U> gac: GRUB is installed fine. There is a problem with your BIOS.
[09:39] <PythonPup> ubuntu studio comes on a round disk, omidp
[09:40] <omidp> my friend installed it  and there was no internet connection
[09:40] <Jordan_U> !arabic | az7rb
[09:40] <genii-around> Ubuntu_user: Then to: sudo /bin/sh ./<netbeans-filename.sh>     when you are in the directory that file sits
[09:40] <gac> Jordan_U: you're right, seems that way. I'll apply the update which is available and see what that does. if I can find a 10.10 CD handy I'll try installing that, I'm sure that's worked on this PC and this disk in the past
[09:40] <eddie_> I just upgraded to 11.04
[09:40] <eddie_> what alternatives are there to unity?
[09:40] <PythonPup> omidp, OK, when he gets an internet connection, he can install updates.
[09:41] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> lets sing a song
[09:41] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> because ubuntureleased
[09:41] <stefg> ot! | adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF
[09:41] <terry> Ultimate_Chaos: You can login to a console session and add a user.
[09:41] <Sidewinder1> !ot > adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF
[09:41] <stefg> !ot | adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF
[09:41] <phaedra> eddie_, you can select the classic at the login screen
[09:41] <eddie_> ah ok, thanks :) :)
[09:41] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: it is normal speed now
[09:41] <jeija> eddie_: xfce, lxde. kde (won't break unity) gnome 3 (will break unity), classic gnome (at login)
[09:42] <eddie_> thanks all :)
[09:42] <Ubuntu_user> still nothing it is stuck there only
[09:42] <adsDSDSFSFSFAEEF> ubuntu is released lalalalala ubuntu is released
[09:42] <omidp> there was no network manager
[09:42] <eddie_> I will do classic for now, but gnome 3 when I get time ;)
[09:42] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: it is back to normal for now account
[09:42] <mrtadis> Hello, what is the problem with Ubuntu 10.10 loading? After grub console I see a black screen for a couple of settings, after that it starts showing kernel loading?
[09:43] <Ubuntu_user> i think getting back to 10.10 is much better now and wait more more stable release
[09:43] <terry> omidp: Do you need to establish a network connection via wireless or wired?
[09:43] <nmaxchat> Scott-Mc, Thanks
[09:43] <stefg> mrtadis: that looks like the kernel isn't finding its root filesystem
[09:43] <omidp> well do u c the network applet in panel? there was no nm-applet in panel
[09:44] <nmaxchat> How do I install drop box ?
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  theres some reposuitories for installing it, ive seen.
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> !dropbox
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  I think theres a guide at the OMGubuntu blog site.
[09:44] <terry> omidp: If you have established a network connection you can install network-manager or wicd.  (I use wicd - it is a bit simplier.)
[09:44] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, I'll look merci
[09:45] <terry> omidp: sudo apt-get install wicd
[09:45] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: it is back to normal for now account
[09:45] <PythonPup> nmaxchat, http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall
[09:45] <Ultimate_Chaos> still slow for ofriginal one
[09:45] <Ubuntu_user> So anyone i am searching for a solution from last 2 days
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  i do recall there being some issue with dropbox needing a delay to launch to work properly. I must of read abouit that at the omgubuntu site.
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  if the New account works.. and the old is slow.. then that points to some user config setting in their home.  You could clean out all the old settings i guess.
[09:46] <PythonPup> Ubuntu_user, My favorite solution is tea and sugar in water.
[09:46] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: how?
[09:47] <Ubuntu_user> PythonPup:  coffee could be much better , lol, would try out later, thanks guys
[09:47] <Jordan_U> kblin: /dev/sdb1 is the correct partition.
[09:47] <Jordan_U> kblin: Windows Vista/7 uses a separate "System" partition.
[09:48] <Ubuntu_user> last point is 11.04 not a stable release?
[09:48] <Acriax> Hi, Im trying to configure the thumb buttons for my mouse on Ubuntu 1104. Using xinput set-button-map <device> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 doesn't add number 6 and 7. What am I doing wrong?
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  you could move all your varios .DIRS to some extra dir and then log out/back in. that will reset everything back to defaults. but you will loose your old settings for everything.
[09:48] <gac> Jordan_U: applied the BIOS update. Still no luck. I have just noticed that this disk takes a lot longer to be detected by the BIOS than my windows7 disk, I wonder if the disk is failing in a very subtle way
[09:48] <andeeeuk> has anyone here used pan newsreader?
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  you could copy them one by one back from the backup dir untill youi fiigure out what one is the issue.
[09:48] <andeeeuk> i am trying to download newsgroups
[09:49] <andeeeuk> having some problems
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  some info about dropbox -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[09:49] <Jordan_U> kblin: The problem is that grub's part_msdos module, which is needed for reading msdos partition tables, is not being loaded. Add "GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=part_msdos" to /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub".
[09:49] <andeeeuk> or has anyone used newsgroups before?
[09:49] <terry> andeeeuk: I have used newsgroups before.
[09:50] <mfraz74> How come the countdown banners http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown are either showing 'coming soon' or broken?
[09:50] <brandonc503> so i made new user for ftp on ubuntu.. when i connect via ftp program i see files that i dont see when am looking in ubuntu: .cache .bash_logout .bashrc .profile examples.desktop
[09:50] <Jordan_U> Ubuntu_user: 11.04 is a stable release.
[09:50] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: found it
[09:50] <brandonc503> can ya tell me what these are? can i delete them?
[09:50] <andeeeuk> terry, is it easy to add a server and start downloading
[09:50] <andeeeuk> ?
[09:50] <Ubuntu_user> Jordan_U:  then why sh file never execute on it
[09:50] <terry> andeeeuk: I don't know.
[09:50] <trijntje> brandonc503, dont delete them, they are config files which are hidden by default
[09:51] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: it was something to do with the policykit authentication app
[09:51] <scotty^> Hi all.  Does anyone know if there is a tracking bug in Launchpad  for anatty kernel upgrade to either 2.6.38.3 or 2.6.38.4?
[09:51] <trijntje> brandonc503, press ctrl + h in file manager to see them
[09:51] <terry> andeeeuk: Been a long time.  Just use groups.google.com now.
[09:51] <andeeeuk> terry which application did you use as a newsreader?
[09:51] <Jordan_U> Ubuntu_user: Because the file you are running is probably not a POSIX sh script but rather a bash script.
[09:51] <terry> andeeeuk: thunderbird.
[09:52] <andeeeuk> terry, ok thanks. Seems im even struggling connecting to a newsgroup
[09:52] <gac> Jordan_U: located the problem. I can't boot from my Ubuntu disk with AHCI enabled. Turning it back to IDE mode in the BIOS detects my spare disk straight away, and Ubuntu boots fine.
[09:52] <Ubuntu_user> Jordan_U:  any way to solve the pronlem i am using this file http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html (c++). But it works fine on 10.10
[09:52] <scotty^> brandonc503 - Don't delete those files!  They are important.  To see them in Ubuntu, select "Show Hidden Files" from the View menu in Nautilus.
[09:52] <andeeeuk> terry, I thought it would be simple to add a group and start downloading from it
[09:53] <Jordan_U> Ubuntu_user: Please don't address support questions directly to me.
[09:53] <terry> andeeeuk: My ISP no longer has a feed for newsgoups and hasn't in some time now, so I just use groups.google.com
[09:53] <geeks-den__aninv> I want to study kernel so is there anyone who could guide me
[09:53] <Ubuntu_user> Jordan_U:  sorry . are you admin or developer of ubuntu.
[09:54] <Ubuntu_user> any way to solve the pronlem i am using this file http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html (c++). But it works fine on 10.10
[09:54] <andeeeuk> ok no worries thatnks
[09:54] <mhusr> how can i use newsgroups?
[09:54] <scotty^> andeeeuk - I like using nn for a newsreader.
[09:54] <geeks-den__aninv> no i am not a ubuntu developer
[09:55] <Ultimate_Chaos> Dr_Willis: thank you very much
[09:55] <mfraz74> I use KNode
[09:55] <andeeeuk> scotty^ which do you use?
[09:55] <virgo> how di i install this icon for software center? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601650/ do i may be have some package missing?
[09:55] <andeeeuk> scotty^ i have been tring to add a newsgroup to pan newsreader with no success
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> Ultimate_Chaos:  that whole 'try a new user' trick - helps eliminate stuff :)
[09:57] <Herbs> andeeeuk just search for the group right click subscribe
[09:57] <scotty^> andeeeuk I use nn for a newsreader
[09:57] <kblin> Jordan_U: ah, spot on, thanks a bunch
[09:57] <andeeeuk> Herbs is it that easy?
[09:57] <kblin> Jordan_U: that fixed it :)
[09:57] <Herbs> andeeeuk I use Pan
[09:57] <Jordan_U> kblin: You're welcome :)
[09:58] <Ubuntu_user> how to downgrade from 11.04 to 10.10?
[09:58] <scotty^> The commands take a little while to remember but it's very heavy duty.
[09:58] <Herbs> andeeeuk yes :) as long as you have configured your provider and downloaded the group list
[09:58] <andeeeuk> Herbs thanks, I will give it a go
[09:58] <scotty^> I'm not familiar with pan I'm afraid.
[09:58] <terry> Ubuntu_user: I think you would just have to re-install with 10.10
[09:59] <Ubuntu_user> terry:  okay,....
[09:59] <nmaxchat> When I open a terminal command, what directory does it put me in by default. 10.04 it says nicholas@nicholas-laptop
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> !downgrade
[09:59] <andeeeuk> Herbs configuring your provider to download group list?
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  thats your home dir.. /home/yoruusername   ie:  ~
[09:59] <Ubuntu_user> Dr_Willis:  terry thanks
[09:59] <Herbs> andeeeuk have you got a newsgroup provider i.e giganews?
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  your username seems to be nicholas in this case :)
[09:59] <red2kic> Ubuntu_user: or 10.04 LTS.
[09:59] <Ubuntu_user> red2kic: ??
[10:00] <andeeeuk> Herbs, ok no I dont have that
[10:00] <red2kic> !lts | Ubuntu_user
[10:00] <red2kic> Ubuntu_user: Otherwise, you might get notifications about available updates all times.
[10:00] <Ubuntu_user> red2kic:  i know what lts is.
[10:00] <andeeeuk> Herbs is giganews a free provider
[10:00] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, So If I say cd  downloads it puts in downloads, correct ?
[10:00] <Herbs> andeeeuk you need a news server to download from
[10:00] <constl> Can you suggest a nice video editing application?
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  yes. thats bash basics.. and rember CASE is Imporntant..   Downloads and downloads are 2 differnt dirs/files
[10:00] <Ubuntu_user> red2kic:  so you think i should go for lts one
[10:00] <Herbs> andeeeuk no but there not expensive free providers are fairly useless
[10:01] <elex> hi can Anyone give me a hint how to convert a file fron "utf 8 with BOM" to  "uft 8 with BOM" ?
[10:01] <mfraz74> constl: there are kdenlive, kino, openshot, pitivi for starters
[10:01] <scotty^> Hi all.  Does anyone know if there is a tracking bug in Launchpad  for anatty kernel upgrade to either 2.6.38.3 or 2.6.38.4?
[10:01] <elex> em to utf8 "without bom" Sorry
[10:01] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, I am learning Willis, ....Merci
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> !terminal | nmaxchat
[10:01] <andeeeuk> Herbs: ok thanks. Is there a free provider that  can test with
[10:01] <andeeeuk> ?
[10:01] <scotty^> oops - let me try that again
[10:01] <terry> constl: Cinelerra  - Video Editing Software
[10:01] <scotty^> Hi all.  Does anyone know if there is a tracking bug in Launchpad  for a Natty kernel upgrade to either 2.6.38.3 or 2.6.38.4?
[10:02] <scotty^> That's better.
[10:02] <Herbs> andeeeuk I dont know of any and this is going off topic now :)
[10:02] <red2kic> Ubuntu_user: Yeah. Why not? You don't have to deal with this headaches every 6 month.
[10:02] <terry> constl: See:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/
[10:02] <cloratec> qui parle frabçais stp????
[10:02] <cloratec> français*
[10:02] <constl> Thanks guys
[10:02] <Sebos> blender is the best video editor.... Sadly others have too much flaws
[10:02] <Jordan_U> !fr | cloratec
[10:02] <Ubuntu_user> red2kic:  so whats that much better in lts
[10:02] <Sebos> moi
[10:02] <andeeeuk> Herbs lol, maybe slightly off topic but I cant test pan if i dont have a free provider?
[10:02] <Ubuntu_user> red2kic:  cost?
[10:02] <andeeeuk> :P
[10:02] <red2kic> Ubuntu_user: Stability.
[10:03] <cloratec> dacor merci ^^
[10:03] <Herbs> andeeeuk I think giganews do a free trial
[10:03] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, How would I install a deb file that is in my Downloads directory as a tar.gz file?
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> Of course the LTS does not have the latest versions of things like the newer releases do.
[10:03] <zabomber> hey guys. know this has probably come up alot since unity release... but i have ubuntu 11 installed in Virtual Box..
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  a .deb is normally not a .tar.gz  what is it exactly you have?
[10:03] <zabomber> unity wont load. comes up with "hardware not availble to run unity" error
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  'sudo dpkg -i foo.deb' or 'sudo gdebi foo.deb' is the normal way.
[10:04] <andeeeuk> Herbs, ok thanks I will test that out.
[10:04] <Herbs> nmaxchat you install .deb with dpkg -i
[10:04] <terry> nmaxchat: You would first have to unpack it.  tar zxvf file-name.tar.gz
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> zabomber:  you have what chipset? have you installed the proper 3d drivers for it?
[10:04] <Herbs> nmaxchat .tar.gz would usually be source
[10:04] <ajah> i`ve just uprade to 11 can someone tell me how to remove the horizontal winbouz like panel
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  select the classic desktop at the GDM login screen if you want the old 'classic' gnome desktop.
[10:05] <terry> nmaxchat: Herbs is correct, what you have more than likely downloaded is a tarball.
[10:05] <zabomber> Dr_Willis: im running virtual box on a mac book pro... should i be installing a special a virtual box driver for it?
[10:05] <Sebos> pitivi is horrible in export part (pipe export is instable slow and good parameters are unpredictable)
[10:05] <nmaxchat> terry, tar zxvf file-name.tar.gz  thats the command line ?
[10:05] <terry> nmaxchat: Yes
[10:05] <Herbs> nmaxchat there should be a README in there
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> zabomber:  vbox manual has details on how to install the guest addations i belive.  then theres the vbox guides at...
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> !vbox
[10:05] <nmaxchat> terry, tarball... thats insulting ;)
[10:06] <ajah> Dr_Willis, how is called this thing to see options for it
[10:06] <nmaxchat> terry, Herbs lemme look
[10:06] <Magizian> hello?
[10:06] <zabomber> Dr_Willis: i've installed the vBox additions... no luck...
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  when you log out.  you enter your user name. then theres a menu at the bottom. select 'classic'
[10:06] <terry> nmaxchat: What is it that you are wanting to install?
[10:06] <zabomber> ill check out the help
[10:06] <zabomber> ta
[10:06] <Magizian> I need a beta tester for my shell..
[10:06] <SoftarPaul> I've updated my Ubuntu today from 10.10 > 11.04. But when I rebooted the computer, the panel/statusbar is gone. How can I show it?
[10:06] <terry> nmaxchat: What is your end goal?
[10:06] <Magizian> I have the first WMHT Zx86/64 beta servers up and running..
[10:06] <Magizian> telnet to 173.13.234.122 port 20023 ... don't login at the prompt, just connect, sit back, and I'll give a guided tour..
[10:06] <Magizian> then you may explore a bit..
[10:06] <Jordan_U> Magizian: This isn't the place to find one.
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> zabomber:  whats the actual vbox issue?
[10:06] <ajah> Dr_Willis, i was asking for the horizontal thing
[10:06] <Jordan_U> Magizian: Ask again and you will be banned.
[10:07] <scotty^> nmaxchat - Or u can just browse to the tar.gz archive in Nautilus and double-click it, which will open it in file-roller (called Archive Manager in the Titlebar).
[10:07] <SoftarPaul> How can I show my hidden panel?
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  and its not clear what you are asking about. You mean the top panel thats always been in gnome? or the left side panel - thats the new unity launcher thing..
[10:07] <nmaxchat> terry, To install dropbox
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  you really dont tweak unity much at this time.
[10:07] <zabomber> Dr_Willis: well.. the thing is. it came up once and disappeared and now it only loads ubuntu classic even if i select Ubuntu at login...
[10:07] <nmaxchat> Scott-Mc, How do I get into nautilus ?
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  dropbox was easy to install. :) one deb. then a tweak script at the webupd8 site.
[10:08] <ajah> Dr_Willis, unity launcher thing thanks
[10:08] <PythonPup> nmaxchat, at a terminal prompt, type   nautilus
[10:08] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, Easy for geeks. I am a newbie geek
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> zabomber:  unity needs 3d driovers.  it does not live vbox or vmware muich. try the unity-2d package.
[10:08] <SoftarPaul> I've updated my Ubuntu today from 10.10 > 11.04. But when I rebooted the computer, the panel/statusbar is gone. How can I show it?
[10:08] <nmaxchat> PythonPup, Thks
[10:08] <zabomber> will do . thanks
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  get deb here -> https://www.dropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  install it.. get it going..  then run the script from here --> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/get-dropbox-appindicator-to-work-in.html
[10:09] <gregors> is there a package or something like that to remove UNITY ?
[10:09] <SoftarPaul> Anyone? :/
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> gregors:  that will proberly break so many things...
[10:09] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, I have it downloaded but dunno how to install
[10:09] <terry> nmaxchat: where did you download from?
[10:10] <Herbs> softarpaul your not using Gnome any more
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  you downloaded the .deb ?
[10:10] <scotty^> Just select one of your Places, such as Home Folder or Documents or Pictures or Downloads and navigate from there to your file.
[10:10] <nmaxchat> terry, Dr_Willis dropbox site
[10:10] <SoftarPaul> Herbs: Anyway, how to show it?
[10:10] <botcity> SoftarPaul, if you have a program running it will not show with your pointer push to the edge of the screen that it is suppose to be and it should pop up
[10:10] <PythonPup> gregors, Just don't use Unity.  Uninstalling it will break a lot.  I did that as a test once.
[10:10] <scotty^> or do what PythonPup said and type nautilus at a terminal prompt.
[10:11] <SoftarPaul> botcity: So if I shut down all running programs and point the mouse to the top of the screen, it should show?
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  when i clicked on the download link. it automatically opened in the software center here. all i had to do was click install. :)
[10:11] <terry> nmaxchat: https://www.dropbox.com/downloading?os=lnx   #This site?
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> nmaxchat:  https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb
[10:12] <botcity> SoftarPaul, no sorry!
[10:12] <terry> nmaxchat: You should have ended up with a .deb  file.
[10:12] <incorrect> i want to reset my desktop after my upgrade, what do i need to delete?
[10:12] <SoftarPaul> botcity: I just want to see my panel, how to? :(
[10:12] <Herbs> nmaxchat typ wget https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i nautilus-dropbox_0.6.7_i386.deb
[10:12] <gregors> PythonPup, I'ts a sad day for me ..I've been using Ubuntu for 7 years now
[10:12] <botcity> SoftarPaul, is it the unity interface
[10:12] <Herbs> type*
[10:13] <gregors> now I think I'm switching back to Debian
[10:13] <SoftarPaul> botcity: What's "Unity interface"?
[10:13] <nmaxchat> Dr_Willis, terry, Herbs Got it. Thanks Just a double click...
[10:13] <scotty^> SoftarPaul - u don't have a panel any more because you are not using GNOME anymore, u are using Unity.
[10:13] <terry> nmaxchat: Yep, there you go....
[10:13] <PythonPup> gregors, Don't be sad.  On one machine, I use gnome on natty and it does quite well.
[10:13] <pksadiq> !Unity | SoftarPaul
[10:14] <scotty^> If you want to use GNOME on Natty, select Ubuntu Classic Desktop during boot (before login).
[10:14] <SoftarPaul> scotty^: Oh, I see. Where can I find the settings, the app-center etc
[10:14] <SoftarPaul> ?
[10:14] <gregors> yeah the problem is that it breaks all compiz settings
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> I find compiz getting downplayed a good thing. - Im sick of the cube. :)
[10:15] <SoftarPaul> http://unity.ubuntu.com/about/ Here they have a panel...
[10:15] <constl> Does an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 is a good practise for the long run or a fresh install of the latest release is the best practise? I mean is there any clutter left behind after the upgrade?
[10:15] <scotty^> Umm, I'm trying to remember.  I'm using Lucid as I type this.
[10:15] <PythonPup> gregors, the real scary part is planning ahead for Oneiric Ocelot.  No Gnome desktop will be provided.  So, we all better test and get the bugs out of Unity this cycle.
[10:15] <scotty^> Natty is installed on my other machine.
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> constl:  i keep /home/ on its own partiin. and do clean installs.
[10:15] <_Keepiru> good morning
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> constl:  upgrades can be problmantic.. depending on what you do with your systems
[10:15] <gregors> PythonPup, I wish I had more time to tweak things like in old days
[10:16] <scotty^> Try clicking Applications near the bottom of the Launcher on the left side of your desktop.
[10:16] <atlef> constl, upgrade is just fine, just finished one myself
[10:16] <constl> Dr_Willis: What about installed applications? I'm just trying linux and not sure what method to choose for fully replacing my windows
[10:16] <Herbs> +1 for what Dr_Willis said
[10:16] <gregors> this all user interface is about getting more of out of a small screen
[10:16] <gregors> and I'm sorry I have 24'' here
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> someone just asked how to reset unity (i think) just saw this URL --> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[10:17] <ajah> Dr_Willis, i want to access tree structure of programs like before system->preferences ... how to do this in 11
[10:17] <Cairo|Mac> has anyone seen anything like this? http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8213/img3503a.jpg
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> ajah:  not sure what you mean. You want the preferances tool? its under a menu item under the power button now.
[10:17] <atlef> Dr_Willis, i just went 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 no problems :-)
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> atlef:  you are lucky from what ive seen in here. :)
[10:18] <_Keepiru> i have a wierd problem..... gnome "hangs" ..... if i do anything like "moving cursor" the system hangs, and comes back after a while. top shows me migration/0 and migration/1
[10:18] <jarek> Hi
[10:18] <Herbs> atlef dont mean everytime you do it will go smoothly :)
[10:18] <jarek> which graphics card would work best with Ubuntu 11.04?
[10:18] <scotty^> ajah - IIRC, that's under Applications, then click the little arrow which says either "Show all applications" or "See more applications".
[10:18] <_Keepiru> consuming between 66 and 360% (wtf) cpu
[10:18] <atlef> Dr_Willis, oh, good to know
[10:18] <jarek> I remember hearing bad things about ATI cards, is it still relevant?
[10:18] <Krishnandu> Hi, I want to upgrade to Natty, but don't want to perform the upgrade through network. So is there any way out by which I can upgrade from CD??
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> jarek:  i always stick with nvidia. but Unity is having some issues  with nvidia and ati both at this time. it all depends on the details. :(
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> jarek:  in order i perfer -->   Nvidia , Intel, ATI,  (then i stop..)  Avoid SIS
[10:19] <scotty^> jarek - A new one.
[10:19] <jarek> Dr_Willis I was thinking about buying a laptop with Intel GMA 4500M
[10:19] <scotty^> Doesn't have to be a powerful one though.
[10:20] <jarek> Dr_Willis what's wrong with Intel cards?
[10:20] <constl> Krishnandu: If you boot with the CD should give you the option to upgrade/install ?
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> jarek:  i perfer nvidia over them. moar power. :) but it depends on your needs.
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> jarek:  if you dont game.. intel is fine.
[10:20] <jarek> Dr_Willis I don't need power, I just would like it to work out of the box
[10:20] <Krishnandu> constl, I dont think Live CD has the option to upgrade. Are you sure??
[10:20] <Alarcron> Hello, this question has probably been asked since the worlds conception... However. Switcable GPUs. Has it been implemented yet? I seriously can not leave windows until tht has been properly fixed! :S
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> jarek: --> it depends on your needs. and budget. :) You decide whatyou need.
[10:21] <Incarus6> jarek, this card should work out of the box
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> jarek: even some intel has had issues in 11.04 from what ive seen in here.
[10:21] <iceroot> Alarcron: no its still disabled in the kernel because of a memory leak, you can only switch gpus with a reboot
[10:21] <constl> Krishnandu: Why dont you try the CD first?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> jarek:  theres always a chance for some issues. You could take a 11.04 live cd to the store and try it out.
[10:21] <Krishnandu> constl, Ok, then I'm downloading the Live CD
[10:22] <scotty^> jarek - I have two machines with ATI Radeon HD5450 cards which work well with Natty.  NVIDIA cards and recent Intel integrated graphics are working well for most people too.
[10:22] <Herbs> Alarcron you mean windows can actually do something without needing a reboot?
[10:22] <jarek> scotty^: but nvidia cards would require third-party drivers
[10:22] <Alarcron> Herbs ya...
[10:22] <iceroot> Alarcron: i a running a setuo here with nvidia ion and intel gpu (asus eeepc 1015pn) and i have to reboot to use intel or nvidia, live-switching is not possible (2.6.38)
[10:22] <botcity> Dr_Willis, good idea i think ill do that!
[10:22] <Incarus6> !nouveau | jarek
[10:22] <Herbs> Alarcron theres a first for everything I guess :)
[10:23] <Alarcron> iceroot gah, well.. Then i have to wait until further notice then :(
[10:23] <iceroot> Alarcron: it should be fixed in 2.6.39
[10:23] <scotty^> For older Intel integrated graphics there is a bug which has been fixed in a pending SRU for Natty - see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/727594
[10:23] <Alarcron> Herbs well actually... not to start a flame war or anything. Win7 really dont have to reboot more then when updating the internals so to speak ;) but i prefer ubuntu non the less.
[10:23] <Alarcron> iceroot Oh god, please let it be so!
[10:24] <iradics> SZiasztok
[10:24] <SattamJH> hello , is there any way to fix the brightness functions keys
[10:25] <Herbs> Alacron really I was forced to do an MCITP at work and found win 2k8 needed reboots for everything lol
[10:25] <Soothsayer> how do I put a pidgin icon in the top panel ?
[10:25] <SattamJH> I mean Fn + up arrow ,, and Fn + down arrow
[10:25] <pksadiq> why ubottu said about the BUG without invoking it?
[10:25] <scotty^> jarek - yeah, as Dr_Willis says, u should probably avoid SIS.  There is a least one bug report on Launchpad where a user with SIS graphics cannot run Unity. IIRC the SIS driver has not had much maintenance for a while now.
[10:25] <iceroot> pksadiq: someone posted a lauchpad url
[10:25] <Alarcron> well, sure it askes for a reboot from time to time... Like certain bigger updates. But, well, it can simply wait until you turn it off for. Well, the next time.
[10:25] <_Keepiru> Soothsayer: drag and drop
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> dont just avoid SiS.. run away from SiS like it was a...err.. I cant think of anything nasty enough...
[10:26] <Alarcron> however, i believe ive got the answer i was looking for. = To wait for a kernel update. So youll see me again when thats been fixed. See you
[10:26] <Soothsayer> _Keepiru, drag and drop what?
[10:26] <pksadiq> iceroot: ok, thanks
[10:26] <_Keepiru> Soothsayer: just drag the icon out of "internet" in the startbar
[10:26] <Ilya> Hi. I need help - tried to enable desktop cube in compiz and it disabled unity plugin - now I cannot launch preferences again, cannot see any menus etc. - how to do I re-enable unity? I can switch to text window (aft+F1) but I cannot launch compiz settings editor from there
[10:26] <ylmf> 大家好。
[10:26] <Sidewinder1> !cn
[10:27] <SattamJH> some one answer me Plz
[10:27] <Soothsayer> _Keepiru, and where should I drop it
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Ilya:  try -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Ilya:  i just saw the artical and am reading it now..
[10:27] <Soothsayer> _Keepiru, its not falling in the top right panel
[10:27] <Soothsayer> besides the volume, wifi, datetime, power off
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Ilya:  it says how to reset compiz and other things also
[10:27] <SattamJH> I have some issues with the brightness short cuts , the function keys
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Ilya:  seems to be 2 commands...
[10:27] <zzecool> Ilya,
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> unity --reset
[10:28] <zzecool> unity --reset
[10:28] <_Keepiru> Soothsayer: i thought you met a start-icon. there is the "state" located
[10:28]  * Dr_Willis bookmarks that page
[10:28] <scotty^> Alarcron - it was implemented in the open-source drivers a while ago, and the newly released ATI Catalyst 11.4 driver also supports PowerXpress (ie. switchable GPUs).
[10:28] <Incarus6> SattamJH, does that help: http://wilmor24.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/change-screen-brightness-from-terminal-ubuntu-10-04/
[10:28] <Soothsayer> _Keepiru, "there is the "state" located" ?
[10:28] <pksadiq> Dr_Willis: why shouldn't you add that to ubottu factoids?
[10:28] <thegoodcushion> I'm not getting any sound on SuperTux on 10.04.  I have no problem getting sound from Ubuntu normally.  Any ideas?
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> pksadiq:  the bot seems to hate me whenever i try to add factoids. :)
[10:29] <Dre> Hello every one! I have some Compiz issues related to a (big) memory usage. Anyone had this problem?
[10:29] <iceroot> is there a way to put my pgp-key (signed mail) into keyring, so thunderbird is not asking everytime for my passphrase if i send a signed mail?
[10:29] <SattamJH> Incarus6: no it does not work for my laptop
[10:29] <alzamabar> Can somebody help with Git and Ubuntu?
[10:29] <Ilya> @Dr_Willis thanks
[10:30] <Maahes> I'm having a problem with otf fonts, they all come out as boxes, what package do I need to fix this?
[10:30] <Incarus6> thegoodcushion, indivudal applications can be muted in the sound manager, is supertux muted? If not try "aoss supertux"
[10:30] <scotty^> jarek - I could be wrong but I thought I heard that Unity was working with the Noveau open-source NVIDIA drivers.  Dr_Willis might be able to confirm that.
[10:30] <zzecool> Maahes,  are you typong english?
[10:30] <zzecool> typing
[10:30] <Maahes> zzecool: yes, and I had these fonts working previously
[10:31] <zzecool> dont have a clue then
[10:31] <Maahes> and the fonts are in normal roman characters
[10:31] <zzecool> maybe someone else
[10:31] <Incarus6> SattamJH, are you using a thinkpad?
[10:31] <scotty^> OK, ignore, my last comment.  I  just read the ubottu comment about nouveau.
[10:31] <alzamabar> Why wouldn't my Git repo be reachable from the internet? Can somebody help with the setup?
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> Incarus6: I can't seem to install aoss
[10:33] <thegoodcushion> I says install alsa-oss but when I try it doesn't work
[10:33] <Witchsong> Anyone had any issues with VPN connections since they installed Natty?
[10:33] <cyrex> try a diff driver
[10:33] <Incarus6> thegoodcushion, aoss is working for me
[10:33] <scotty^> Dr_Willis - Re Sis: perhaps plague was the word you were looking for :)
[10:34] <Viking667> ... weird. I'm noticing "artifacts" while running Unity.
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> scotty^:  worse then the plague :)
[10:34] <thegoodcushion> Incarus6: I typed aoss supertux and it started supertux but still no sound
[10:34] <theclaw> my system (upgraded to natty) often hangs while booting (last line shown: "NET: Registered protocol"), and continues after I unplug my usb mouse. is this a known issue?
[10:34] <Herbs> SIS s*** Intergrated s***
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> scotty^:  i have had some issues with  Noveau. But this box does seem to be working with them now.. or else it finally installed the nvidia drivers.
[10:35] <BlouBlou> Herbs+
[10:35] <Viking667> I'm using ATI, not Nvidia...
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> scotty^:  oh wait. The nvidia drivers finally worked on this box. :) heh..
[10:35] <Simpson_2> will upgrading to 11.04 always replace my gnome2 desktop ?
[10:35] <jerriy> Hi
[10:35] <BlouBlou> Simpson_2: no
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Simpson_2:  it will become Unity by default - theres the classic gnome desktop still selectable at the LOGIN screen
[10:36]  * pksadiq dreaming of Coreboot now ....... :)
[10:36] <Viking667> Oh, that reminds me. What am I meant to get when I start 11.04 (after upgrading)? I've just installed the unity packages (and all the other stuff it wanted)
[10:36] <Viking667> ... when I log in, I get nautilus, various services started, but no gnome-panels.
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  the dfault Unity desktop you mean?
[10:36] <Simpson_2> is there a way to default it back to gnome2 ?
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  could be some compiz settings are fighting with it.
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> unity --reset
[10:37] <Viking667> Well, I'm not sure. I don't know what the "default" unity desktop looks like
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> that may not work.. Hmm.
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> blog sites got videos of it. :) left side panel. and top panel.
[10:37] <Simpson_2> my parents around 70 won't survive such a dramatic switch so I would like to have the gnome2 as default for them
[10:37] <Viking667> hrm.
[10:37] <Viking667> let's try this then...
[10:37] <jerriy> Can somebody tell me whether the program "screenlets" is no longer updated
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> Simpson_2:  they may like i tbetter.. for now theres the classic desktop.
[10:38] <BlouBlou> Simpson_2: if you change once, it will be set by default with 'classic-desktop' :)
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> jerriy:  i think its not been getting much attention for quiet some time.
[10:38] <Incarus6> Simpson_2, you can choose Ubuntu Classic at login screen
[10:38] <incorrect> i wish clicking on a sidebar icon would minimise it
[10:38] <Viking667> ........... oooooo heck.
[10:38] <Simpson_2> BlouBlou, okay, thats all i need to now
[10:38] <jerriy> Dr_Willis: any known reason why that is
[10:38] <Simpson_2> i do presume the old desktop is preserved ?
[10:38] <incorrect> can you made the sidebar more like a traditional taskbar?
[10:38] <Maahes> small help with ln -s is it: ln -s directory/somewhere/else /directory/i/want or the opposite?
[10:39] <jerriy> Dr_Willis:Has it been replaced?
[10:39] <yuskhanzab> downgrade to maerick succesful. ^^
[10:39] <atlef> Simpson_2, yes, just use Ubuntu Classic when you login
[10:39] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone help me - in ubuntu 11.04 i have mouse lagg, how to solve that problem?
[10:39] <Maahes> jerriy: compiz has something equivalent
[10:39] <Simpson_2> okay thx for the answer guys
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> jerriy:  the whold idea of widgits on the desktop has slowly been fadeing away. screenlets has always been flakey for me. Now it just seems to be dieing off.
[10:39] <Incarus6> Maahes, "man ln": "ln [OPTION]... [-T] TARGET LINK_NAME   (1st form)"
[10:39] <jerriy> What is that Maahes?
[10:40] <vak> how to assign an icon to an application pinned in Ubuntu Unity?
[10:40] <incorrect> jodlajodla, i had a similar problem, what i did was delete all the .gnome and .compiz directories
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> jerriy:  google has their own widgit stuff. opera does also. there may be some others i dont recall.
[10:40] <Incarus6> Maahes, " ln [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY TARGET...  (4th form)"
[10:40] <Maahes> Incarus6: I know, but its not english to me, I can't make sense of which corresponds to the example I provided above
[10:40] <brandonc503> seems when i make a user in ubuntu and change the home directory it changes back , common issue or am i doing something wrong?
[10:40] <jodlajodla> incorrect: then i must restart system?
[10:40] <ciccioba> hi
[10:40] <scotty^> Viking667 - What ATI card do u have?
[10:40] <incorrect> jodlajodla, well i just logged out and in
[10:40] <incorrect> jodlajodla, is this an upgraded system?
[10:41] <Viking667> ATI HD3450
[10:41] <ciccioba> have someone ideas about no sound on my realtek audio integrated peripheral (mobo ASUS -pro) on ubuntu 10.10
[10:41] <jerriy> Dr_Willis:, Maahes: you guys mean the whole widgets/screenlets/gadgets thing is "passé"?
[10:41] <Viking667> ciccioba: do you have pulseaudio started?
[10:42] <Incarus6> Maahes, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/creating-soft-link-or-symbolic-link/ should help
[10:42] <Herbs> maahes easiest way to symlink is cd to the dir you want to make the sym link in and then ln -s /location symlink
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> jerriy:  yes..
[10:42] <Incarus6> Maahes, ln -s ORIGINAL_FILE NEW_LINK
[10:42] <ciccioba> i've seen on sound preferences 2 devices (1 is realtek; other is audio standard...)
[10:43] <ciccioba> last time i installed ubuntu 10.1o v disattivated one and the other is gone... now don
[10:43] <ciccioba> Viking667: how to look if pulseaudio is started
[10:43] <ciccioba> ?
[10:43] <Viking667> hm. Can't help there then, I'm having my own uh, issues with pulseaudio.
[10:44] <Incarus6> ciccioba, did you try to unmute the sound?
[10:44] <Viking667> ah.... in a terminal, type "ps ax | grep pulseaudio
[10:44] <ciccioba> yes surely
[10:44] <ajah> is there a program witch can cause mouse to be locked withing a window ( not to leave window)
[10:44] <ajah> within*
[10:44] <jodlajodla_> incorrect - i've deleted .compiz and .gnome2 in home folder, but not better -.-"
[10:44] <Incarus6> ajah, yes, wine.
[10:44] <Viking667> gah. Now I have some issues... I'll be right back.
[10:44] <Maahes> Ok what I'm trying to do is this: /directory/on/different/drive ~/Directory what I'm getting is ~/Directory/Directory@ which means I cd into ~/Directory/Directory
[10:44] <incorrect> jodlajodla, did you logout and back in?
[10:45] <ciccioba> i'm sorry 've to go, i'm working.
[10:45] <jodlajodla_> i've restarted pc
[10:45] <ciccioba> i'll be back soonm
[10:45] <PythonPup> ajah, yes.  VirtualBox acts like that sometimes.
[10:45] <ciccioba> thanks to all
[10:45] <Incarus6> jaha, and don't forget vmware and vbox
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> jodlajodla_:  theres the .gconf* dirs also
[10:45] <incorrect> jodlajodla, i've only seen that after i messed with compiz settings a lot
[10:46] <ajah> Incarus6, my question was for wine i start programs with wine with option -window but it leaves the window how to lock it
[10:46] <InHisName> HOW TO finish upgrading to 10.10 where the gui portion hangs ?   I can login text mode in recovery.
[10:46] <FordPrefect> Hello?
[10:46] <jodlajodla_> i will install ccsm first, because there is refresh rate on 50hz and i have 60hz - maybe is there problem?
[10:46] <FordPrefect> Anyone here?
[10:46] <PythonPup> InHisName, you might try an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:46] <scotty^> Viking667 - The ATI Radeon HD3450 (R600 I think, or maybe R700) should be relatively error free on Unity, unlike the early R100 (Radeon 7000) and R200 (Radeon 8000) cards.  If you are getting artifacts try searching Launchpad for similar bugs.
[10:47] <Furai`> FordPrefect: 1622 users and you're asking if someone is here? :D
[10:47] <Herbs> mahhes you wont cd into the symlink but anything you do in there will replicate in the symlinked dir
[10:47] <Mrokii> Hi. Is there a way to get rid of this stupidly stin "scrollbars" that aren't really scrollbars anymore in 11.04?
[10:47] <PythonPup> InHisName, or, lubuntu-desktop
[10:47] <Incarus6> ajah, usually you use winsettings to configure that. Under "grafic" you can activate "mouse-grab". Mention: Not every programm locks your mouse, just directx apps, which are programmed to do that
[10:47] <Mrokii> *stupidly thin I mean
[10:47] <incorrect> do apps like eclipse need to support this global menu thing before their menu is integrated into the top bar?
[10:47] <jodlajodla_> Dr_Willis - that can help to solve problem with mouse lagg?
[10:48] <SmokingKipper> test
[10:48] <botcity> Mrokii, i think there is an option in ccsm
[10:49] <PythonPup> incorrect, Not exactly.  If an app dynamically builds its interface, it may have to directly support the global menu.  Most gtk apps support the global menu out of the box.
[10:49] <FordPrefect> Furai sorry there was a lag when I came in here and nothing was showing up.
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> jodlajodla_:  does it affect a newly made user also? if so - that would point to a system setting, or driver issue.
[10:49] <vigor> hey anybody can help me with xchat plz ?
[10:49] <brandonc503> seems when i make a user in ubuntu and change the home directory it changes back , common issue or am i doing something wrong?
[10:49] <incorrect> PythonPup, then i would imagine eclipse does have to support it
[10:49] <bazhang> vigor, whats the issue
[10:49] <Incarus6> !ask | vigor
[10:49] <Mrokii> botcity: You don't happen to know what option that is, do you?
[10:49] <ajah> Incarus6, so i cant lock mouse on directx apps witch i start with opengl
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> brandonc503:  how are you making the user, and why/how  are you changeing their home?
[10:50] <vigor> am new to this irc thingy, so i used to us pidge or msn... to connect me to my hotmail messenger but how to do that in xchat ?
[10:50] <Incarus6> ajah, I didn't said that. Somewine apps can grab your mouse. did you enable that option?
[10:50] <bazhang> vigor, you dont
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> incorrect:  some apps can break/fight with the global menu yes. some apps dont follow the proper standard way of doing things from what i recall.
[10:50] <Cursarion> dunno if xchat does msn
[10:50] <jodlajodla_> Dr_Willis - i've also installed 10.10 and official ATI driver for HD4850, but it was same problem ;) but on win 7 mouse works normally
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> incorrect:  firefox for example has a extension to make it play nice with the gloval menu.
[10:51] <DarsVaeda> hi is anyone familiar with where firefox 4 youtube temp files are saved to?
[10:51] <bazhang> vigor, xchat is irc only
[10:51] <ajah> Incarus6, still leaving the window
[10:51] <vak> how to assign an icon to an application pinned in Ubuntu Unity? (icon was not automatically found for 3rd part application Eclipse)
[10:51] <scotty^> vigor - Maybe, I'm using XChat-GNOME now.
[10:51] <DarsVaeda> in older versions there was a flv temp file generated for each video you watched in /tmp - can not find that anymore
[10:51] <ubuntu> Hi! Is there any way to combine unallocated partition as one here - http://imagebin.org/151122?
[10:51] <vigor> ohh kk i thought it was possible to connect to the msn thingy... ok thanks then ^_^
[10:52] <Incarus6> ajah, "Wine does not grab pointer(XGrabPointer) so there is no way to prevent it from leaving Wine window." http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-users/2008-December/045389.html
[10:52] <Moa> Hi, anyone has a hdmi green/pink image issue with Natty ?
[10:52] <scotty^> vigor - Xchat only supports the IRC protocol.
[10:52] <ajah> Incarus6, i see
[10:52] <ubuntu> Is it possible to combine unallocated partition as one here - http://imagebin.org/151122?
[10:53] <VCoolio> DarsVaeda: not sure if it's the same on ubuntu, but take a look at this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=114790
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  if they are next to each other yes. You may have to move some other partitons around
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  you can combine them by resizeing One to take up all the space of the other. :)
[10:54] <Incarus6> ubuntu, the second unlocated disk space is just 1MB big, I think that wouldn't make any sense
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  in your case. resize sda6 to take it up. then shrink it back down.
[10:54] <DarsVaeda> VCoolio: thx i pretty much think that will help :)
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> 1mb unallocatged - due to 'round to 1mb boundry'  'common practice' these days
[10:55] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, I allways hate that, because it have to move a lot of files ;)
[10:55] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis: Can you see this http://imagebin.org/151122? These are my partition. /dev/sda6 is /home
[10:55] <ubuntu> Incarus6: unallocated - 9.99 GiB and unallocated 979.00 MiB is what I hope to combine
[10:55] <SmokingKipper> I cannot understand why my net is running so slow....taking ages to download even a 1.5meg file
[10:55] <SmokingKipper> like 20 minutes
[10:56] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis: And I'm not sure how does moving/resizing affects data
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> adding the 979mb to the sda6 shouldent take much time i woudl think.
[10:56] <scotty^> vigor - I think Empathy is the program in Karmic and later Ubuntu versions that can do what u want.  It uses Telepathy for protocol support.
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> its shrinking fs's that take up all the time .
[10:56] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis: Well, I want to add 979MiB to 9.99GiB
[10:56] <Incarus6> ubuntu, ah, right. That would take a lot of time, since you are trying to move more then 500GB of data. Why dont you just resize /dev/sda/?
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  that will take some work.. since they are basically at opposite ends of the hard drive
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[10:57] <FloodBot3> PythonPup: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:57] <Incarus6> ubuntu, hm, nevermind, I meant 20 GB of data
[10:58] <scotty^> SmokingKipper - it will depend on the usage load on the site/mirror you are downloading from.
[10:58] <ubuntu> Incarus6: Dr_Willis: How does resizing affects data? /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda7 are my /home and / of current system. I'm on LiveUSB now
[10:58] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me how to make the Unity Dash fullscreen?
[10:58] <SmokingKipper> well I am merely trying to update the cache via the software centre
[10:59] <jiltdil> fr00g:"unity dash"?
[10:59] <Incarus6> ubuntu, it doesn't affect your data, is just moving the location of the data on your disk, and thats taking some time (like if you would copy all the files somewhere else)
[10:59] <BlouBlou> SmokingKipper: 'sudo apt-get update' will update your software-list
[10:59] <Herbs> ubuntu theres always a risk of data loss when resizing a partition so make sure you have a backup before you do
[10:59] <ubuntu> Oh
[10:59] <FordPrefect> Does call system("mkdir directoryname") create a new directory in GVim?
[10:59] <fr00g> jiltdil, yes, the Dash that appears when you press the button in the top left
[10:59] <SmokingKipper> thanks, I may have figured out the issue...I plugged in my laptop power....I think ubuntu may have a harsh power managemtn throttle?
[10:59] <jiltdil> fr00g:ok
[11:00] <Incarus6> ubuntu, I've never lost any data due to resizing. There is a little risk, that this could happen, but it never happend to me
[11:00] <LunaVorax_mini> Hi everyone !
[11:00] <SmokingKipper> oh, one more question....when I right click on an app in the launcer, it launches the app..I want to get the menu up to remove the app
[11:01] <InHisName> PythonPup: ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version     is its response
[11:01] <Incarus6> ubuntu, and one of the two partitons you try to move is a swap partition, but I would make a backup of /dev/sda7
[11:01] <LunaVorax_mini> I would like to convert my computer to a RAID-0 system, is i t possible just to add another HDD and adapt to it or do I have to reformat everything and reinstall ubuntu from zero ?
[11:01] <torq_> ls everyone
[11:01] <PythonPup> InHisName, So, try lubuntu-desktop.  That's why I gave you a backup.
[11:01] <Viking667> sorry about that - was getting some major dissasociation...
[11:02] <_Platypus_> Is there any good way to drop straight to your Desktop? I keep having to minimize multiple windows to get there, and there has to be a better way.
[11:02] <scotty^> Viking667 - np.
[11:02] <Viking667> Unity's certainly not something I've ever come across...and boy is it different in some ways.
[11:02] <scotty^> Viking667 - The ATI Radeon HD3450 (R600 I think, or maybe R700) should be relatively error free on Unity, unlike the early R100 (Radeon 7000) and R200 (Radeon 8000) cards.  If you are getting artifacts try searching Launchpad for similar bugs.
[11:02] <Incarus6> InHisName, pls paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log
[11:02] <ubuntu> Incarus6: Well, how about combining 1.02MiB and 979.00 MiB to swap?
[11:02] <InHisName> PythonPup:  having both is ok ?
[11:03] <PythonPup> Sure, InHisName
[11:03] <InHisName> Incarus6: coming in a bit.
[11:03] <SmokingKipper> my right click seems to do a left click (left click is left click)
[11:03] <Herbs> ubuntu theres no pint in doing that really
[11:03] <Incarus6> ubuntu, then you would have more swap space (ignore the 1MB). Whats your ram size?
[11:03] <Herbs> point*
[11:03] <PythonPup> They will both show up as choices when you login, and you can choose.
[11:03] <Herbs> the 1mb will make no diff
[11:03] <Incarus6> Herbs, as long as his swap space is big enough
[11:03] <brandonc503> how do i change a users home directory in terminal. when i use the user/groups it changes back to /home/user
[11:03] <Viking667> don't worry about it (r620) - I think I've got it going now. my only real problem is: I can't seem to interact with the panels now, except to click their icons. I used to be able to have them hide themselves, now that isn't showing ... in fact, right-click on the panel doesn't do anything.
[11:03] <ubuntu> Incarus6: 4GiB
[11:04] <Herbs> 4gb is prolly to much swap
[11:04] <Incarus6> Herbs, I disagree here
[11:04] <Incarus6> Herbs, ubuntu, usually swap space = ram * 2
[11:05] <constl> Do you need swap if you have 4 GiB of memory ?
[11:05] <Herbs> Incarus I always used to go with the old school method of swap 1 or 1/2 x ram but I dont think it is nescasery these days with the amount of physical ram
[11:05] <scotty^> LunaVorax_mini - I would advise against using RAID-0 - I had a bad experience with it.  From Wikipedia, "Any disk failure destroys the array, and the likelihood of failure increases with more disks in the array (at a minimum, catastrophic data loss is twice as likely compared to single drives without RAID)."
[11:05] <ikonia> constl: you never "need" swap unless you actually "need" it, it really depends on what you're doing, it's sensible to use it unless you known not to
[11:05] <Incarus6> constl, Herbs, if you want to hibernate (suspend to disk) u need more swap then ram
[11:06] <LunaVorax_mini> scotty^, I know about this, this only is for testing and learning purposes
[11:06] <Viking667> I've got 2Gb (plus a bit) of swap to go along with my 2Gb of memory.
[11:06] <Herbs> Incarus6 true I dont do either and work with servers so thats my reasoning so I guess you have a point
[11:06] <iam126> sorry to be a pest, does anyone NOT see http://godmode.cc/ ?
[11:06] <fr00g> Can anyone tell me how to make the Unity Dash fullscreen?
[11:06] <iam126> I had someone not see it earlier
[11:06] <Viking667> one of the reasons is so that if I can get away with it, I can use the hibernate function
[11:06] <constl> Incarus6: Im not using swap (as Im aware of) and can suspend just fine. Maybe it has to do with how many open applications you have?
[11:07] <jiltdil> fr00g:see the unity dash at the right botton corner click it
[11:07] <iam126> I need to rule out multi-homing configuration errors on ubuntu 10.10
[11:07] <ubuntu_> Herbs: Incarus6: Sorry, lost connection. My partition table is not proper.. Was tihnking of a way to correct it somehow
[11:07] <ubuntu_> Incarus6: RAM is 4GiB and current swap is more than required
[11:07] <Incarus6> Herbs, hibernating stopped working for me since 11.04 anyway
[11:07] <Viking667> so far, that's not actually working for me... I suspect that's because I've got two cores. (Pentium Dual Core)
[11:07] <scotty^> LunaVorax_mini - Try RAID-5 or Intel's Matrix RAID if you have an Intel Southbridge chip.
[11:07] <fr00g> Yes, but I'm looking to enable fullscreen by default
[11:07] <Incarus6> !testdisk | ubuntu
[11:07] <agung> hai..
[11:07] <LunaVorax_mini> scotty^, This computer does not support more than 2HDDs, can't try anything else than RAID-0/1
[11:08] <Incarus6> omg ubottu. ubuntu-, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestDisk
[11:08] <ubuntu_> Incarus6: ok
[11:08] <Incarus6> constl, as long as you suspend to ram, everything will work fine for you
[11:09] <ubuntu_> Incarus6: Why did you suggest data recovery tool?
[11:09] <scotty^> LunaVorax_mini - Or maybe RAID 0+1 if you have plenty of disks (minimum four disks; even number of disks).
[11:09] <Incarus6> ubuntu_, it's also for recoverying lost partitions/ a lost partition table
[11:10] <constl> The empathy irc channel keeps changing its size as my sentence gets bigger. Anyone else experiencing the same?
[11:10] <ubuntu_> Incarus6: Is there any way i can improve current partition table than doing what I was asking initailly?
[11:11] <ubuntu_> Incarus6: http://imagebin.org/151122
[11:12] <thegoodcushion> what filesystem does 11.04 use by default?  ext3 or ext4?
[11:12] <Incarus6> ubuntu_, your current partition table looks ok. you could move sda7 and sda5 up and combine these 9.99GB with these 979MB
[11:12] <thegoodcushion> And same question for 10.04
[11:12] <Incarus6> !ext4 | thegoodcushion
[11:12] <PythonPup> thegoodcushion, ext4 for 11.04.
[11:12] <Incarus6> ubottu doesn't know anything
[11:13] <botcity> brandonc503, usermod -d /path/to/new/homedir/ username
[11:13] <brandonc503> ah had username in wrong spot, thanks
[11:13] <Herbs> ubuntu_ give the gpated cd a try iirc it has an option for repairing its not something I have had to do personally though
[11:13] <scotty^> LunaVorax_mini - OK then.
[11:13] <Herbs> gparted live cd
[11:13] <BlouBlou> !ext
[11:13] <BlouBlou> meh
[11:14] <Richard|> hey, how do i update ubuntu with the wubi installer?
[11:14] <BlouBlou> !wubi | Richard|
[11:14] <_Keepiru> how do i switch the glx module with tne nv-module? there is no modprobe.conf. o_o
[11:14] <Richard|> i've read all that
[11:14] <Richard|> the only option i can see atm is uninstalling it and installing it again
[11:14] <Richard|> are there no other options?
[11:15] <Incarus6> Richard|, you can simply boot ubuntu and upgrade it, that should work
[11:15] <FordPrefect> Anyone here have any Gvim experience?
[11:15] <Richard|> i'll give that a try, i just don't wanna break anything lol
[11:16] <terry> How does one convert a system to LTS?
[11:16] <botcity> FordPrefect, ask!
[11:16] <Incarus6> Richard|, just wait one second
[11:16] <PythonPup> terry, in the preferences for Synaptic and update manager, there is a setting for that.
[11:16] <FordPrefect> I am trying to make a new directory but when I name it , it tells me "Unable to make directory". anyclues botcity?
[11:17] <terry> PythonPup: Ok, thanks.
[11:17] <botcity> terry, which LTS
[11:17] <Herbs> Ricahrd| always make backups before doing anything that risks data loss
[11:17] <FordPrefect> I'm new to Gvim and Ubuntu obviously.
[11:17] <glycan> Chrome doesn't runm
[11:17] <glycan> Nor in alt-2, nor in terminal.
[11:17] <terry> botcity: What do you mean, which LTS?
[11:17] <Herbs> glycan define chrome doesent run
[11:17] <glycan> I cannot find anything to start chrome.
[11:17] <Herbs> glycan do you get an error in terminal?
[11:17] <brandonc503> my ftp user is able to see back into my file structure tree.. i only wnt them to see there own folder.. where is this set?
[11:17] <glycan> 'COmmand not found'
[11:18] <terry> botcity: I'm talking Long Term Support
[11:18] <glycan> But U software center says it's installed.
[11:18] <Cursarion> what command are you using?
[11:18] <Incarus6> Richard|, it's not safe according to ubuntuforums.org, pls read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9932369&postcount=5
[11:18] <glycan> chrome, chromium, google-chromium
[11:18] <botcity> terry 10.04 was the last one if your on a newer version you will have to wait or reinstall
[11:18] <Richard|> oh rught, thanks
[11:18] <Herbs> glycan have you made /dev/shm read only as I know chromium needs to right to it
[11:18] <atlef> Richard|, you could look here http://ubuntu-with-wubi.blogspot.com/2011/01/upgrade-to-natty-1104-alpha-1-with-wubi.html
[11:19] <Herbs> and wont run unless its rw
[11:19] <glycan> No idea, han gon
[11:19] <trailoryo> can someone tell me a good mediaplayer that can play HD 100% smooth... cus I still havent found something that can :/
[11:19] <FordPrefect> No one knows why I'm getting the "Unable to create directory" response in Vim?
[11:19] <pksadiq> glycan: chromium-browser
[11:19] <kill3> Whats wrong, my Ubuntu 11.04 installation gets stuck to Ubuntu loading screen, tried 2 different cds and from usb stick?
[11:20] <Cursarion> glycan: haha
[11:20] <botcity> perhaps run gvim as sudo maybe
[11:20] <Incarus6> trailoryo, VLC is working for me. Usually thats more a hardware/driver problem then a media player issue
[11:20] <_Platypus_> Firestarter on 11.04- can't log events, as it says I'm not root. Any thoughts on how to fix this?
[11:20] <brandonc503> kill3: ive had it take a really really long time before
[11:20] <ikonia> _Platypus_: run it with sudo
[11:20] <InHisName> PythonPup:  lubuntu installed, chose lxdm   rebooted normal    monitor sync double clicks every 10 seconds  but nothing more.         tried rebooting to recovery mode but stuck at ** checking battery status
[11:20] <trailoryo> Incarus6 thanks, but I know its not ;/
[11:20] <_Platypus_> ikonia: Have tried, no luck.
[11:20] <glycan> Really? Jeez.
[11:20] <brandonc503> my ftp user is able to see back into my file structure tree.. i only want them to see there own folder.. where is this set?
[11:21] <ikonia> _Platypus_: how are you trying to run it exactly ?
[11:21] <ikonia> brandonc503: chroot option
[11:21] <trailoryo> Incarus6 : It looks like its more of a codec problem, but I dont have a clue about this in Linux
[11:21] <_Platypus_> sudo firestarter, but when I hit the GUI, can't log events.
[11:21] <brandonc503> thanks
[11:21] <ikonia> _Platypus_: how are you launching the gui
[11:21] <Herbs> _platypus_ things run as sudo at cli arent sudo in gui
[11:21] <Viking667> eeeeeep .... right. I'm out of here.
[11:22] <PythonPup> InHisName.  You may have to tweak the xorg.conf file.  That is what I'd look at next.  Get the specs or google for your monitor and video card settings.  Normally, that is not needed.  Sorry, I have to go back to work now.
[11:22] <Viking667> I think I've had enough of Unity... back to it tomorrow.
[11:22] <_Platypus_> Clicking on it. There is probably something simple I'm missing.
[11:22] <Incarus6> trailoryo, you can choose different video output modes
[11:22] <Herbs> if you select firestarter through the gui it should prompt for sudo pass
[11:22] <kill3> Brandonc503 umm I should just leave my computer waiting like 1 hour?
[11:22] <ikonia> _Platypus_: try launching the gui with "gksudo"
[11:22] <ikonia> _Platypus_: just a test
[11:22] <_Platypus_> ikonia: I will try that.
[11:22] <terry> PythonPup: If the system is 9.04 now, will the LTS option be available in the update manager & package manager?  (Or will it first need to be updated to 10.04.)
[11:23] <brandonc503> kill3: its something i would try, if you believe there are no other issues
[11:23] <trailoryo> Incarus6: in vlc? or some other settings? thanks ill play around some then^^
[11:23] <atlef> terry, 10.04 is LTS
[11:23] <Herbs> _platypus_ kill the instance of firestarter you have running then start it through the gui
[11:23] <terry>  ....... Anyone  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,..........^^^
[11:23] <glycan> Good grief.
[11:23] <Incarus6> trailoryo, in Vlc, yes. VLC uses its own codecs and VLC supports hardware acceleration. If your graphic card/driver doesn't support hardware acceleration it wont work
[11:23] <glycan> How do you get flash?
[11:23] <brandonc503> kill3: also try on other comps maybe just to make sure the usb is fine
[11:23] <scotty^> trailoryou - Smooth playback of HD video will depend not only on your media player but also on your video card and maybe your CPU.  What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:23] <glycan> Flash player, that is
[11:23] <VCoolio> terry: you can only skip versions from one lts to another; in this case, you have to update one by one or fresh install
[11:23] <kill3> From usb stick I can see the menu and I am now running memtest
[11:24] <atlef> !restricted | glycan
[11:24] <ikonia> terry: stop with the noise please, ask a question and wait for a response, "anyone" doesn't help, and flooding with "...." doesn't
[11:24] <JustMeDude> hi can someone pls help, somehow I corrupted my top bar and the launcher in 11.04, was messing with compiz to get transparency back and now booting into the gui all I have is my wallpaper - thanks
[11:24] <scotty^> kill3 - What video card/chip do you have?
[11:24] <Incarus6> trailoryo, pls paste "glxinfo | grep rendering"
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> RichardJ, With all due respect to the developers, many aspects of Wubi can be problematic. Please keep in mind that one of it's purposes is to simply try Ubuntu, from the windows environment. If one likes the next logical step is to install Ubuntu; dual-boot, and go from there.
[11:24] <PythonPup> terry, you probably need to go to 10.04 first.
[11:25] <terry> PythonPup: VCoolio: Ok, here is the situation.  A friend of mine had 8.04.  I thought it was LTS, and told him to just do the distribution upgrade. Well, now he's on 9.04.
[11:26] <ikonia> terry: 8.04 is lts
[11:26] <steverm> hello guys is the ubuntu 11 on beta
[11:26] <ikonia> steverm: no, it's release stable
[11:26] <bazhang> steverm, its final
[11:26] <Incarus6> terry, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Version_timeline
[11:26] <brandonc503> ikonia: the ftp access jumps to folder i want, but i can still back up thru the structure tree
[11:26] <Incarus6> !natty | steverm
[11:26] <kill3> scotty^ cant remember, but comp is brand new HP G62 with 4GB memory
[11:27] <ikonia> brandonc503: yes, so use chroot options as I've told you
[11:27] <Shauny> ubuntu 11.04 rocks =]
[11:27] <brandonc503> must have used it wrong.. googleing
[11:27] <steverm> ubottu ok thanks you
[11:27] <VCoolio> terry: so he didn't skip but updated version twice; he can go on or fresh install; I'd do the latter but it depends on backup facilities and if he has data on a separate partition
[11:27] <Incarus6> InHisName, still here?
[11:28] <djcoin> Hi all, I m trying to get data from a sata disk I extracted from my older laptop that does not work anymore. Well, I try to mount it from <:de
[11:28] <terry> VCoolio: What do you mean "updated version twice"?
[11:28] <djcoin> from /dev/sdb but that does not work
[11:28] <ikonia> djcoin: /dev/sdb is a disk, not a partition, you mount a partition, not a desk
[11:28] <ikonia> disk
[11:28] <VCoolio> terry: he went from 8.04 to 8.10 to 9.04 instead of skipping to 10.04 directly
[11:28] <steverm> ubottu I am planning on downloading the alternate cd install
[11:28] <DogEars> Why do people use Virtual box instead of qemu with Aqemu?
[11:28] <djcoin> ikonia: yeah I know, yet i dont have any /dev/sdb*
[11:29] <glycan> Can't I just apt-get install flash?
[11:29] <glycan> Or..
[11:29] <ikonia> djcoin: then there is no partition on that disk
[11:29] <djcoin> How should i proceed to mount ther disk then ?
[11:29] <ikonia> djcoin: you need to partition the disk
[11:29] <Incarus6> DogEars, vbox is working better for me
[11:29] <Herbs> /dev/sdb* will have a mount point if you do s df you will see where its mounted
[11:29] <djcoin> ikonia: no there are partitions, I used this disk
[11:29] <VCoolio> terry: so now he can upgrade to 9.10 and then 10.04, or fresh install the version he wants
[11:29] <Cursarion> how did you use it without partitions?
[11:29] <atlef> terry, look at this screenshot how to enable LTS upgrades http://bildr.no/view/874402
[11:29] <terry> VCoolio: Well, he said he was on 8.04, now he's on 9.04  I don't know how he got there, but, well, I'll just have to wait and see when I get there.
[11:30] <ikonia> djcoin: you are mistaken, "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[11:30] <InHisName> Incarus6: I'm still here for a bit yet.    System hung in recovery mode at   * checking battery state . . . .
[11:30] <omidp> i change my server to the closest server does the programs are diffrent  than the previous server ? more complete or less complete?
[11:30] <djcoin> ikonia: does not return me nothing, i tried it :(
[11:30] <DogEars> Incarus6, OK on 11.04?
[11:30] <djcoin> Maybe there are some hardware failure
[11:30] <ikonia> djcoin: there are no partitions on that disk then
[11:30] <ikonia> omidp: they are identical
[11:30] <scotty^> kill3 - pls paste glxinfo | grep render
[11:30] <Herbs> InHisName hardware raided?
[11:30] <omidp> i wat is the server differences?
[11:30] <VCoolio> terry: it's not bad, it's not necessarily broken, it just takes a lot more time this way :)
[11:30] <djcoin> I wont partition this disk, I will loose the data Im trying to get it back
[11:31] <InHisName> Herbs   no raid
[11:31] <ikonia> djcoin: there is no partition on the disk - data is already gone
[11:31] <djcoin> I guess linux is mistaken because of some hardware failure or whatever
[11:31] <ikonia> djcoin: it's not mistaken
[11:31] <InHisName> ver 10.04 -> 10.10
[11:31] <ikonia> djcoin: pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please
[11:31] <Incarus6> DogEars, let me try. Didn't boot it since upgrade. Especially 3D acceleration is better supported in vbox. Yeah, its workign perfectly
[11:31] <InHisName> not out of time for 2.5 hours then back.
[11:31] <InHisName> s/not/now/
[11:31] <djcoin> ikonia: no output
[11:31] <jodlajodla> hello, i have problems with additional ati drivers - all windows lagg when i move it
[11:31] <djcoin> the command is completely silent
[11:32] <ikonia> djcoin: are you running from a livecd ?
[11:32] <DogEars> Incarus6, I will install and try. Thanks
[11:32] <djcoin> nop
[11:32] <ejv> ikonia: he needs to use sudo
[11:32] <JustMeDude> is there a way to restore the original unity desktop without reinstalling 11.04?
[11:32] <terry> VCoolio: Well, again, I'll find out when I get there.  I'm going over there sometime next week, was just wondering how it worked.  No big deal.
[11:32] <PythonPup> terry, 8.04 is LTS.  Now he is on 9.04, which is not.  Upgrading from 9.04 to 10.04 is not officially supported, but there is a wiki page for it.  Please google for it, as I really have to go back to work.  I won't check irc again for hours.
[11:32] <Herbs> InHisName your bios seems to think it is
[11:33] <ejv> ikonia: nvm i see you've mentioned it to him, he may not be following directions lol
[11:33] <terry> PythonPup: Ok, thanks info
[11:33] <Incarus6> DogEars, which guest os are you planning to run with it?
[11:33] <Herbs> InHisName unless its referring to the cmos battery
[11:33] <ikonia> djcoin: you used the command "sudo fdisk -l" yes? exactly like that ?
[11:33] <DogEars> Incarus6, XP pro
[11:33] <djcoin> yeah
[11:33] <botcity> JustMeDude, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[11:33] <Sterist> anyone know if there's plans for ubuntu on android phones?
[11:33] <djcoin> im root
[11:33] <djcoin> ho no, i did specify <:de
[11:34] <Incarus6> DogEars, I'm running Windows 7 Enterprise
[11:34] <ikonia> djcoin: how did you become root ?
[11:34] <djcoin> /dev/sdb
[11:34] <terry> PythonPup: VCoolio atlef Thanks for the info.  I
[11:34] <Glycan> What do I have to do to get mp3s working?
[11:34] <djcoin> sudo su
[11:34] <scotty^> jodlajodla - please define "additional ati drivers" - do you mean fglrx (also known as Catalyst)?
[11:34] <ikonia> djcoin: don't use "sudo su"
[11:34] <Herbs> sudo su is not root
[11:34] <gmj> hello, anyone has problems with ufw - multicast dropping - after upgrade to natty?
[11:34] <DogEars> Incarus6, It is to run a business app
[11:34] <terry> PythonPup: VCoolio atlef Thanks for the info.  I'm hoping to wait for the traffic to simmer down, maybe next week and then do somethig with it.
[11:34] <jodlajodla> scotty^ - yes fglrx from additional drivers
[11:34] <djcoin> sudo su - ?
[11:34] <VCoolio> djcoin: if you need to, use 'sudo -i'
[11:34] <atlef> !restricted | Glycan
[11:34] <Herbs> su -l would be root try that
[11:35] <ikonia> djcoin: sudo -i
[11:35] <DogEars> Incarus6, Does 7 run OK?
[11:35] <Glycan> I di dsee those.
[11:35] <Glycan> Didn't help
[11:35] <Glycan> Well, you tube works
[11:35] <ikonia> djcoin: sudo fdisk -l output please.
[11:35] <Incarus6> DogEars, lol, I'm running photoshop and illustrator inside that virtual machine and it's running flawless ;)
[11:36] <Sterist> !hi
[11:36] <Mole> how do i change from unity to ubuntu classic (gnome) via the terminal?
[11:36] <constl> Mole: When you login you are given at the bottom the option to chose which environment to use
[11:37] <Herbs> mole sudo init3 should take you to a shell them service gdm start should start gnome
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  you could edit your .dmrc file then log out/back in. but you may as well use gdm to change it.
[11:37] <DogEars> Incarus6, Virtualbox - ose ?
[11:37] <Mole> constl: problem is i enabled autologin, its running on my htpc
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  log out. use gdm menus.
[11:37] <djcoin> ikonia: http://pastie.org/1853035
[11:37] <djcoin> Thanks a lot
[11:37] <Mole> Dr_Willis: ok thanks
[11:37] <Incarus6> DogEars, I think the upgrade removed the non-ose version, so it's ose now. Both working great
[11:37] <djcoin> I copy paste the syslog
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> i think thers some default-session tool somewhere.. but gdm is the easiest way.
[11:37] <atlef> DogEars, i would get the non-ose directly from http://www.virtualbox.org/
[11:37] <djcoin> when the disk was plugged in
[11:38] <ikonia> djcoin: I didn't ask for the syslog
[11:38] <atlef> DogEars, but that is just me
[11:38] <Trashi> hi. i installed thunderbird from the ubuntu software manager. now i want to install an addon but i cant see the menu of thunderbird. does anybody know how to fix that problem and "unhide" the menu?
[11:38] <djcoin> Yeah, but you also got the sudo fdislk
[11:38] <djcoin> fdisk -l
[11:38] <djcoin> that brings nothing
[11:38] <djcoin> I guess
[11:38] <Mole> Dr_Willis: where do i find the .dmrc-file ?
[11:38] <Glycan> Moreover, it deosn't provied support for 11.4
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Trashi:  you see no menus? they shoudl appar in the top bar when you mouse up there.
[11:38] <ikonia> djcoin: look at what it's doing port 5 on the hub is disabling/up/down
[11:38] <terry> djcoin: You don't seem to have sdb  Is it a USB drive?
[11:38] <Herbs> fdisk -l alone will not do anything you have to sudo it in ubuntu
[11:38] <DogEars> atlef: First time with virtual so this is a turning point
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  its in your home dir. but really..just log out. enter your user name. and select the session you want in the menus at the bottom. thats the easiest way
[11:39] <terry> Herbs: he did
[11:39] <djcoin> terry: usb drive yes
[11:39] <kau_mad> Hi, does anybody know how to turn on a NVidia optimus GPU?
[11:39] <terry> djcoin: You may need to plug it in again.
[11:39] <Trashi> Dr_Willis: in the top bar i can only close, minimize, etc... but there isnt a menu
[11:39] <jodlajodla> hello, i have problems with additional ati drivers - all windows lagg when i move it
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> Trashi:  thats weird. Other apps show a menu up there? or do no menus appear for anything?
[11:40] <terry> djcoin: Try  unplugging it and plug it in again and see.  fdisk -l | pastebinit
[11:40] <kau_mad> I installed NVidia drivers and xserver crashed, had to replace xorg.conf
[11:40] <Mole> Dr_Willis: i cant logout since i have no menus or anything, just an empty desktop. its probably cus i fiddled around with overscan-options (nvidia)..id prefer the .dmrc-solution hehe
[11:40] <djcoin> terry: ikonia lol it mounts itself right away
[11:40] <djcoin> plugin it out
[11:40] <Trashi> Dr_Willis: no.. its a "thunderbird-only" problem
[11:40] <djcoin> but I made it several times
[11:40] <terry> djcoin: Ok, very good.
[11:40] <djcoin> first time it does mount
[11:40] <djcoin> why is that ?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  sudo service gdm restart   will force a lot oug and restart gdm.   theres some  .nvidia?? file that has your users settings in there you could rename.
[11:41] <atlef> Trashi, what happens when you press Alt + f
[11:42] <Trashi> atlef: nothing
[11:42] <Incarus6> DogEars, Nevermind, it's the non-ose version
[11:42] <kau_mad> Has anyone successfully installed drivers  for an NVidia optimus vga?
[11:42] <Dr_Willis>  /home/willis/.dmrc  is my dmrc. :) its just a text file with a few lines.
[11:42] <atlef> Trashi, ok, just thought that would give you the menu
[11:42] <sandking> hi
[11:42] <Mole> Dr_Willis: hmm i dont have one, what does it look like?
[11:43] <djcoin> ikonia: thanks a lot
[11:43] <DogEars> Incarus6: Whats the difference?
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  it could be autologin skips it. I never use autologin
[11:43] <Trashi> atlef: no ... i only see the shortcut menu (get all mails, write, adresse book, tag, etc)
[11:43] <Dr_Willis>  pastebinit .dmrc
[11:43] <Herbs> does anyone know anything abount mounting samba shares with autofs?
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601680/
[11:44] <scotty^> Glycan - OK, if that didn't work, try using Synaptic package manager to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly. gstreamer0.10-plugins-good should already be installed but if it's not, install it.
[11:44] <Incarus6> DogEars, some firmware and proprietary things are better supported
[11:44] <Mole> Dr_Willis: ok. is there a way to bring up a terminal by using keyboard shortcuts? kinda hard to do anything without menus ;)
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  alt-f2
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  or go to the console - alt-ctrl-f1
[11:44] <Incarus6> I g2g
[11:44] <Mole> Dr_Willis: great, thanks alot!
[11:44] <atlef> Trashi, and if you use the arrow keys
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  the  .nvidia-settings-rc
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Mole:  the  .nvidia-settings-rc  file seems to store per-user nvidia settings
[11:45] <Trashi> atlef: what should i do with the arrow keys?
[11:45] <DogEars> Incarus6: The repository only lists the OSE versions
[11:45] <thauriswufla> HELP: unable to install ubuntu 11.04 , tried every method usb,cd ,dvd, getting error 5 input /output error after 28 % of process.Is there any way to install?
[11:46] <atlef> Trashi, when you use alt + f and the left right arrow i thought you would move through the menus
[11:47] <botcity> thauriswufla, did you check the md5 checksum ?
[11:47] <Trashi> atlef: but it doesnt because the main menu of thunderbird didnt appear on thunderbird start
[11:47] <thauriswufla> botcity, no
[11:47] <thauriswufla> botcity, how to do that
[11:47] <botcity> !md5 | thauriswufla
[11:47] <DogEars> Incarus6: The VB website has all versions available. Downloading atm
[11:48] <thauriswufla> botcity, but live cd is working fine  except installation
[11:48] <atlef> Trashi, ok, then i do not know
[11:48] <[diablo]> morning #ubuntu ... I have just installed the Gnome3 PPA ... up and running... however I can not see to find how to set the GTK toolkit theme... the default is dire ... anyone know how to do this please?
[11:48] <afeder> my ubuntu just switched from the slick default appearance to a dull gnome standard one... anyone knows why this might have happened?
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> afeder:  as you were using it? or just now on login?
[11:48] <atlef> !gnome3 | [diablo]
[11:48] <afeder> on login
[11:49] <incorrect> what is really irritating about unity, if i change between virtual desktops the single full screen app doesn't get focus when i move back sometimes
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> afeder:  could be ou some how defaulted to unity-2d perhaps?
[11:49] <botcity> thauriswufla, check the cd.
[11:49] <[diablo]> atlef, hi, yeah I knew about that
[11:49] <afeder> Dr_Willis, is there a way to check if that has happened?
[11:49] <Trashi> is there a way to launch a mozilla thunderbird addon manager as stand alone, so without the thunderbird main application?
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> afeder:  at the GDM login screen. enter user name. see what session is selected at biottom
[11:50] <afeder> ok thanks
[11:50] <[diablo]> choosing the widget theme would be nice tho
[11:50] <scotty^> kau_mad - Optimus is not currently supported on Linux - see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTM3NA
[11:52] <s3xs1> hi! I'm new to ubuntu/linux, and I'm trying to install RTAI-LAB, by following the instructions from rtai-ubuntugutsy-matlab.txt, but it gives me an error since the start (mesalib) and I'm stucked :D help!
[11:52] <sahip> 全部
[11:52] <sahip> Opps
[11:52] <scotty^> Trashi - someone mentioned b4 that there was a Firefox extension to integrate it's menu with Unity - I'm guessing Thunderbird needs something similar.
[11:52] <Fakyea> hi
[11:53] <MnCC> anyone experience with bluetooth ?
[11:53] <Trashi> scotty^: and how to install a thunderbird extension without access to the extension/addon manager?
[11:54] <botcity> !bluetooth | MnCC
[11:55] <MnCC> botcity, that didnt do anything for me ..
[11:55] <[diablo]> brb
[11:56] <MnCC> botcity, that tutor is so outdated is isnt even funny
[11:56] <bazhang> MnCC, ask a real question
[11:56] <jonathonf> [diablo]: try gnome-tweak-tool
[11:56] <logicalor> hi, wondering if there is a way to stop rsync after it transfers a specified amount of data (eg. 5gb)
[11:56] <logicalor> ie is there a native switch or would i need to get it to report to a watcher that kills it on a certain condition?
[11:56] <MnCC> i am unable to transfer files from mobile phone to laptop via bluetooth, the other way around works just fine.
[11:57] <brandonc503> Are the users made by Ubunt not SSH by default.. im havin trouble finding chroot info.. foujnd chrot for sftp users ssh users ftps users...
[11:57] <Herbs> logicalor man rsync Ive always wanted it to run till it finished backing up
[11:57] <scotty^> Trashi - hmm.  Good question.  What happens if you double-click on the .xpi file in Nautilus?
[11:58] <logicalor> thanks herbs, typically would as well but with transfer limits imposed by isps becoming ever more prevalent one has to be vigilant
[11:58] <brandonc503> and what is the JailKit?
[11:58] <scotty^> Trashi - otherwise maybe booting into Ubuntu Classic and installing it, then booting back into Unity will work.
[11:58] <Herbs> logicalor true you using a DR repo? sorry cant help
[11:58] <Trashi> scotty^: the archive manager appears ... i tried to open the xpi file with thunderbird from nautilus, but nothing happens
[11:59] <Trashi> scotty^: yes you are right .. think i'll try that ...
[12:00] <bob34> hello
[12:00] <logicalor> what is a dr repo?
[12:01] <Herbs> disater recovery repo I take it your backing up to some kinda cloud storage?
[12:01] <bob34> Does it worth installing the proprietary nvidia driver? i dont want to play games neither eye candy... i just want a browser, email, music, videos, some coding and remote desktop. I run ubuntu 11.04 with xfce or fluxbox.
[12:02] <botcity> MnCC, which phone is it ?
[12:02] <scotty^> Does anyone know if there is a tracking bug in Launchpad  for a Natty kernel upgrade to either 2.6.38.3 or 2.6.38.4?
[12:02] <logicalor> oh okay.  something like that.  all good - i'm moderately versed in rsync but its manual can be confusing and documentation isn't always up to speed.  i think i'll throw together some sort of wrapper script to deal with it
[12:02] <MnCC> botcity, HTC HD2
[12:02] <logicalor> thanks anyway
[12:02] <zhouxin> 扫描
[12:02] <zhouxin> what
[12:03] <MnCC> is seems i have no rights to write .. it should dump files in the Downloads folder .. so i chmod -R 777  ./Downloads .. but no luck
[12:03] <scotty^> Glycan - OK, if that didn't work, try using Synaptic package manager to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly. gstreamer0.10-plugins-good should already be installed but if it's not, install it.
[12:03] <Glycan> How do you move large amounts of files from one folder to another in terminal?
[12:03] <botcity> MnCC, and its connected a trusted device?
[12:03] <Glycan> scotty: I got it to work. Thanks
[12:03] <scotty^> Glycan - Cool.
[12:04] <MnCC> botcity, yeah .. it works like a charm the other way around .. i can send files to the phone perfectly
[12:04] <llutz> Glycan: mv src/file* target/
[12:04] <scotty^> Glycan - I believe the command you want is mv.
[12:04] <Glycan> Thanks
[12:04] <Herbs> logicalor depending on what your transferring but you could use --max-size= if its one file
[12:05] <MnCC> botcity, i just cant find any documentation .. they all cover gnome-obex .. and in 11.04 i have bluetooth-*
[12:05] <brandonc503> ikonia: is this what im looking for? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[12:05] <Herbs> logicalor or compress during transfer never used it myself though
[12:05] <botcity> MnCC, you should be getting a pop up saying something accept for MnCCmob  is it sending ?
[12:06] <MnCC> botcity, no popup ..
[12:06] <afeder> after i logged in, the appearance had changed from the usual slick dark gray one to this: http://i54.tinypic.com/kbq4hs.jpg (note gnome default icons) ... why might this have happened? at login, my session thingy was 'Ubuntu'
[12:06] <abd_bela> in ubuntu 11.04 I want to customize the top menu, for example, adding a button to close it or auto hide it? In gnome I just need to right-click to get the preferences !!
[12:07] <yuanye> how many have updated to 11.40
[12:07] <b_gholamali> I can't see nm-applet icon on the panel, ubuntu 10.10, can someone  help me?
[12:08] <atlef> b_gholamali, add indicator applet
[12:08] <atlef> i think
[12:08] <yuanye> looking for a tool for writing html
[12:08] <MnCC> yuanye, make a ghost/backup .. just in case..
[12:08] <yuanye> thanks
[12:08] <Herbs> yuanye kompozer
[12:09] <yuanye> thanks   a lot
[12:09] <niteye> hello, where can i find apps that use a taskbar icon? when i minimize them i cannot open them anymore (but the process is still there) (for example aMSN)
[12:09] <niteye> in unity
[12:09] <b_gholamali> @atlef: it's active
[12:10] <b_gholamali> @atlef: maybe restarting it can help, but i dont know how to do that...
[12:10] <Witchsong> niteye: Minimized applications should be on the Launcher.
[12:11] <brandonc503> so im looking up information on chroot options so that my ftp users cannot access anything above there home directory. is the chroot a setting in ubuntu already? or must i install/configure something new?
[12:11] <kraftwer1> any experience with bluetooth auto reconnect on 11.04?
[12:11] <niteye> They only stay there when the application is minimized, when the window is closed but the application is active and acciessible through a taskbar icon like before, then i can't get to them anymore
[12:11] <atlef> b_gholamali, killall gnome-panel in a terminal
[12:12] <PetrHH> hello, I've installed Xubuntu 11.04, everything work fine except vmware player. If I try it to run, I got these errrors: http://pastebin.com/zH5uECrQ
[12:12] <PetrHH> anybody know what can be wrong, please?
[12:12] <niteye> many things are wrong since the upgrade grrr lol
[12:13] <Herbs> brandonc503 needs to be configured in the ftp server
[12:13] <niteye> so taskbar icons, where are they now in unity?
[12:13] <zaksoldier> hi
[12:13] <Trashi> i fixed the thunderbird problem. > for everyone whos interested > if the menu top bar menu does not appear for thunderbird, check the thunderbird-gnome-support and thunderbird-globalmenu package is installed. i just installed thunderbird with help of the ubuntu (11.04) software manager. it installed thunderbird-globalmenu BUT NOT the gnome-support... install that package and kill thunderbird... after that start thunderbird and it works ...
[12:14] <bittin> hi
[12:14] <matborda> oi
[12:14] <abd_bela>  PetrHH : what is vmware player? may be a video player
[12:14] <brandonc503> herbs: where do i find the ftp server configuration?
[12:14] <zaksoldier> did i have now download the new version
[12:14] <atlef> Trashi, good to see you fixed it :-)
[12:14] <bittin> abd_bela: no its for virtual machines
[12:14] <Witchsong> niteye: You cannot really reach them anymore in that case. You can kill the process and reboot the application, that's the best option. Some applications, like XChat in my instance, have a bug where the minimize to tray doesn't work like it used to in 10.10.
[12:14] <b_gholamali> @atlef: it didn't work, how about reinstalling nm-applet?
[12:14] <Herbs> brandonc503 how longs a piece of string which ftp server you using
[12:14] <niteye> Witchsong: that's a pita :(
[12:15] <atlef> b_gholamali, not sure, sorry
[12:15] <Trashi> atlef: thanks for your help and ideas ;)
[12:15] <atlef> Trashi, you are welcome
[12:15] <abd_bela> bittin   is it installed by default? strange
[12:15] <bittin> abd_bela: i don't think so
[12:15] <b_gholamali> @atlef: thanks for help
[12:15] <atlef> b_gholamali, np
[12:16] <brandonc503> herbs ssh
[12:16] <Herbs> brandonc503 so your using sftp?
[12:16] <brandonc503> yes
[12:16] <brandonc503> sorry learning as i go
[12:16] <Glowball> Can I set two different shortcuts for the same action? I have a touch thingie for controlling sound, but I also want Fn-up and Fn-down as shortcuts for my volume. Is this possible without overriding the touch controls?
[12:16] <abd_bela> Sure it is not there, at least in CD live, may be our friend  PetrHH means video player
[12:17] <MnCC> botcity, got it working .. after changing settings, restart the daemon .. or in my case a reboot
[12:17] <Herbs> brandonc503 you dont have to worry then users who have been added to the system can only use ftp over ssh and will be chrooted to there home directory by the os
[12:17] <PetrHH> abd_bela, no, I mean VMware player :-)
[12:17] <abd_bela> may be someone try like me,  in ubuntu 11.04  to customize the top menu, for example, adding a button to close it or auto hide it? In gnome I just need to right-click to get the preferences !!
[12:18] <brandonc503> Herbs: so far when i log in with ftp, i can see the entire file structure tree above the home directory i have set
[12:18] <Herbs> brandonc503 ftp is different to ftp over ssh (sftp)
[12:18] <Guest15918> My friend is running 10.10 withot an internet connection & he has removed openoffice by mistake. I have an internet connection .Is there away I can download and take the packages with me ? & then install them by dpkg -i *. deb  ????
[12:18] <sandking> am i the only one that thinks Unity slows down netbooks (or low resource machines)?
[12:18] <PetrHH> abd_bela, it is from vmware, virtual machine software
[12:19] <Herbs> sftp uses the system login so there restricted the same as if they logged in locally to there home directory
  Have you install it from a ubuntu repository
[12:19] <Guest15918> how to know which packages to download ?
[12:20] <brandonc503> Herbs: ok.... well im using filezilla and it says sftp:// at beginning... does this mean i cannot set this?
[12:20] <PetrHH> abd_bela, No, I haven't. I downloaded it directly from VMware website. I don't know that ubuntu have this in repo
[12:20] <Herbs> brandonc503 you dont have to set it sftp is the same as ssh
[12:21] <Herbs> sftp has the same restrictions as ssh does
[12:21] <brandonc503> Herbs: so i should look for setting in the ssh to set the root folder.. is that the right term? root folder?
[12:21] <windyhu> try it
  I think the best way if really you need it??,  you install it from ubuntu or   debian repository
[12:22] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone help me config 5.1 sound
[12:22] <omichalek> hi all, I just launched new version of dropbox and it asks me for admin password. "This will enable Dropbox to  sync extended file attributes."
[12:22] <Herbs> brandonc503 basically sftp has the same access as an ssh login or a local login
[12:22] <omichalek> what does dropbox need my password for?
[12:22] <Superstar> What is the picture in Control Centre > About Me used for?
[12:22] <Herbs> but only for that user and they are restricted to there user group
[12:22] <PetrHH> abd_bela, Yes, I really need it. I'm developing a software and need to test in in several version of ubuntu and also other distributions.
[12:23] <atlef> Superstar, it show on the login window for example
[12:23] <omichalek> should I give Dropbox my password?
 you can check it if it is in debian  go  to www.debian.org and search in packages
[12:23] <jodlajodla> hello, can someone help me config 5.1 sound
[12:23] <Superstar> atlef is it used by empathy or any instant messenger by your knowledge?
[12:23] <PetrHH> abd_bela, I'll try but I doubt there will be something. It is not open source.
[12:23] <DirtyDawg> omichalek: dropbox is safe
[12:23] <cdavis> My touchpad stops working on my thinkpad, there was a bug but it says it was fixed. Is there a way to restart the touchpad services?
[12:24] <niteye> how can i change the global keyboard layout? i tried dpkg-reconfigure console-setup but it doesn't ask me for a keyboard layout
[12:24] <brandonc503> Herbs: sorry im trying to keep up. so should i bee looking in my etc/ssh for a file to set the configuration?
[12:24] <omichalek> DirtyDawg: but what would it need it for?
[12:24] <Herbs> brandonc503 i.e you login to sftp as root you can do anything add user someone they can only access someones dir as long as you set the home directory for the user and dont add them to the wrong group
[12:24] <atlef> Superstar, no idea, just know about the login window
[12:25] <zamba> after upgrading to 11.04, my wirless has gone to sh*t
[12:25] <zamba> using iwlagn
[12:25] <Herbs> brandonc503 I suggest you read up on linux permissions
[12:25] <slim> Hi! I installed a minimal ubuntu cd 11:04 via command-line, and LXDE-core and xinit. When system start I can't mount CD-ROM or other drives, but as root I can. This did not happen on Ubuntu 10.10 and before. Is there some help?
[12:25] <pythoned> Hello, I installed 10.10(ubuntu) upgraded it to 11.04 but I have  a flash problem. Installed it from ubuntu software center, if I go on a video on youtube it runs but if I go to a channel it warns me that I have either js disabled or an old flash version.
[12:25] <brandonc503> Herbs: iv used the user/groups to make a user with a certain home directory in there own group.
[12:26] <pythoned> How can I have an older one since USC states that it downloads flash player directly from adobe website?
[12:26] <Herbs> brandonc503 cool so those users are already locked to there home dir
[12:26] <cdavis> Is there a way to restart the touchpad on a laptop?
[12:26] <Herbs> and wont be able to access above
[12:26] <brandonc503> Herbs: but when i access via sftp i can see everything above
[12:26] <Herbs> as long as they use sftp
[12:26] <jwtiyar> while trying to open .docx file but does not show any thing in office and office does not launch?
  in debian you have wvmare, I don't know if that you are looking for
[12:26] <Herbs> you havent enabled them ftp access
[12:27] <Herbs> brandonc503 your logging in as root thats why
[12:27] <brandonc503> Herbs:im using the user name i made, not the word root
  just add in your sources.list the line for debian   deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
[12:28] <brandonc503> Herbs: so all my usernames login as root?
[12:28] <Herbs> brandonc503 hmm grep user /etc/passwd whats the output?
[12:28] <jwtiyar> while trying to open .docx file but does not show any thing in office and office does not launch?
[12:29] <Christian87_> Hi
[12:29] <brandonc503> Herbs: sub user with my actuall user naem right?
[12:29] <zaksoldier> hi
[12:30] <Herbs> brandonc503 no what did that command output?
[12:30] <brandonc503> hplip:x:112:7:HPLIP system user,,,:/var/run/hplip:/bin/false
[12:30] <abd_bela> in ubuntu 11.04 I want to customize the top menu, for example, adding a button to close it or auto hide it? In gnome I just need to right-click to get the preferences !!
[12:31] <Herbs> grep theuseryouwanttochroot /etc/passwd
[12:31] <pythoned> Anyone here that can assist me?
[12:31] <brandonc503> user2:x:1002:1002:user2,,,:var/www/user2/:bin/bash
[12:32] <Joric> i just ran ubuntu 11.04 64-bit live cd on intel celeron 550 (conroe-L) how is this even possible does it really support 64-bit? uname says x86_64
[12:32] <Herbs> brandonc503 ok grep 1002:1002 /etc/passwd
[12:33] <brandonc503> user2:x:1002:1002:user2,,,:var/www/user2/:bin/bash
[12:34] <Herbs> you need to change :bin/bash to nologin
[12:34] <iceroot> Joric: uname is telling you what kernel is used, cat /proc/cpuinfo (lm means 64bit) tells what the cpu can do
[12:34] <jwtiyar> while trying to open .docx file but does not show any thing in office and office does not launch?
[12:35] <Herbs> actually no you dont face palm
[12:35] <brandonc503> lol
[12:36] <Christian87> lol
[12:36] <atlef> PetrHH, there is some info here on vmware player problems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1735951
[12:36] <Herbs> brandonc503 login as ssh as that user and type echo$PATH
[12:37] <PetrHH> atlef, thank you, I'll look at it.
[12:37] <moldy-b> ow-er
[12:38] <PetrHH> atlef, I solved it by installing libview2 package
[12:38] <LjL> good morning. i have installed Natty using btrfs as /, but GRUB is refusing to work ('press any key to reboot'), and i am a bit at a loss on how to fix it, considering that when i mount my btrfs root, there is a @/ directory containing the actual root, plus a @home/ directory, and i have no clue what that is about
[12:38] <atlef> PetrHH, ok good
[12:38] <PetrHH> it installed a few dependencies and it works
[12:39] <Herbs> petrhh welcome to Linux :)
[12:39] <Herbs> think yourself lucky it wasnt 5 years ago :)
[12:40] <PetrHH> Herbs, thank you :-) I'm developing software for Linux and sometimes it is very strange
[12:40] <happolati> Hi. After upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 i can't log in. My machine freezes at the ubuntu splash-screen. What log files should I read to find out what's going on? I can log in in failsaxe graphics mode.
[12:40] <p0op-> Playback of movies from my external USB HD seem to pause or crash every 5-15 mins, a check out of the logs found many repeats of the following message -   usb 1-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 anybody know how I can fix?
[12:40] <Herbs> just think yourself lucky that not everything has to be compiled from source anymore
[12:41] <maxagaz> I have run "ssh -D 9998 user@server" (lucid server) on my desktop (natty), then set firefox proxy settings to localhost:9998 and network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to TRUE in the about:config on the desktop (natty), but I then can't access to the web, what's wrong in what I did ?
[12:41] <thegoodcushion> What's the status of the ARM port?  Is it going to become an official architecture?
[12:41] <theclaw> I don't have a volume control applet in 11.04 anymore. which package is this?
[12:42] <Herbs> maxgaz you want to tunnel over 998?
[12:42] <Herbs> have you opened the port in your firewall
[12:42] <happolati> is the nvidia-driver removed when upgrading to 11.04? how can i get it back?
[12:42] <moldy-b> hi
[12:43] <maxagaz> Herbs, no, I didn't, how to do it ?
[12:43] <thegoodcushion> happolati: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:44] <atlef> p0op-, it might be a problem with your usb port not supplying enough power, try changing port
[12:44] <moldy-b> is it possible to use a sound file that will play in order to notify you that you've got a message for instance?
[12:44] <p0op-> atlef: its externally powered
[12:44] <atlef> p0op-, ok, just a thought
[12:45] <hardcold> I just turned on my computer and all the icons, dialogue boxes, top bar, etc were all different
[12:45] <brandonc503> Herbs: bash: echo/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[12:45] <jwtiyar> while trying to open .docx file but does not show any thing in office and office does not launch?
[12:45] <hardcold> This is a clean install of 11.04, and no system preferences were touched
[12:46] <Herbs> on ubuntu hmm I dont know the proper ubuntu way so might get shouted at but I modify /etc/sysconfig/firewall with the rules and then execute the script
[12:46] <atlef> jwtiyar, right click the docx file and choose properties and under the open with tab make sure office is selected
[12:47] <jwtiyar> atlef, show the open office loading but after this does not load
[12:47] <ertroll> #chromium
[12:48] <Incarus6> jwtiyar, docx is at the moment unsupported. you con open it with libreoffice read-only
[12:48] <atlef> jwtiyar, ok
[12:48] <jefimenko> does anyone know how to change the console resolution in ubuntu 10.04? i have been searching everywhere and can't find definitive answer
[12:48] <Herbs> brandon503 can you cd above the home dir via ssh?
[12:48] <jwtiyar> Incarus6, so i have to install libreoffice now?
[12:49] <jrib> jefimenko: for TTYs when you press ctrl-alt-f1 you mean?
[12:49] <Incarus6> jefimenko, first search result: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[12:49] <jefimenko> i have a server that is starting up with 1280x1024 and i need to bring it back down to earth...
[12:49] <jefimenko> thanks. i guess i didn't know to use "tty" in my keywords
[12:49] <thegoodcushion> Does anyone know.. is ARM going to become an official Ubuntu architecture?
[12:50] <Incarus6> jwtiyar, Im not sure if openoffice supports docx atm. http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=372
[12:50] <LjL> jrib dear, remember i gave you a cookie! tell me why grub broke when i installed natty on btrfs =)
[12:50] <jefimenko> Incarus6, jrib: this guide says to type "vbeinfo" in the grub2 command line. how i access it? i have no grub cmd
[12:51] <afeder> my desktop has changed appearance to a default gnome look - how can this have happened or how can i get the slick ubuntu look back?
[12:51] <jrib> LjL: I read your question but have no clue and if I recall correctly that cookie was confiscated from me -_-
[12:51] <jefimenko> nm... i have to reboot for it
[12:51] <LjL> jrib: :((
[12:51] <Incarus6> jwtiyar http://hanovercomputerrepair.com/blog/2011/01/29/libreoffice-3-3-gives-openoffice-org-docx-and-new-looks/
[12:53] <atlef> afeder, log out and choose your user, do not enter password and choose "Ubuntu" in the bar at the bottom
[12:53] <Incarus6> jefimenko, type "grub" in terminal
[12:53] <afeder> atlef, i'll try that thanks
[12:53] <Incarus6> jefimenko, nevermind, didn't work.
[12:54] <brandonc503> Herb: might i have to restart anything if i made this home directory change? could that be it?
[12:55] <Herbs> brandon503 not really but what change did you make?
[12:55] <brandonc503> Herbs: and i cant go up in directory there
[12:55] <brandonc503> Herbs: i went to user groups and set the home directory to /var/www/user2
[12:55] <kolorowa> hej
[12:56] <Herbs> brandon503 if you cant do it via ssh then you cant do it via sftp wether you have setup ftp access is another thing
[12:56] <brandonc503> Herbs: how can i see if ftp is installed on my Ubuntu?
[12:56] <afeder_> atlef, that did not seem to help .. it looks right just after login, but then a few seconds later it is as if something crashes and it defaults to a gnome look
[12:56] <Herbs> ftp localhost
[12:56] <lehel_> How can i costumize the dash in 10.04, or it cannot be done? thanks
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> lehel_:  some teaks -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[12:57] <brandonc503> ftp is currently not installed
[12:57] <dawn__> dk..
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> !dash
[12:57] <atlef> afeder, ok, then i do not know. maybe a problem with the gfx driver
[12:57] <dawn__> 아....
[12:57] <dawn__> 안녕하세요
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> heh wrong dash factoid
[12:57] <FloodBot3> dawn__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:58] <afeder_> ok
[12:58] <Herbs> brandon503 you should be cool then
[12:58] <psycho_oreos> !kr| dawn__
[12:58] <psycho_oreos> !korean| dawn__
[12:58] <brandonc503> Herbs: i just connected via filezilla and i can see everything
[12:59] <Herbs> brandon503 are you using ftp ? if so what ftp sertver?
[12:59] <lehel_> thanks Willis
[12:59] <afeder_> a few seconds after login something crashes that cause my desktop to revert from ubuntu look to a default gnome look ... does anyone please have any ideas for how to fix this?
[12:59] <Christian87> äöü
[12:59] <ozanorhan> you guys have any idea how can i automount hdd. i use 2 internal hdds guide i found online are about partition of same hdd and usb storages i thought you could help me. thanks in advance
[12:59] <brandonc503> Herbs: my filezilla starts with sftp://user2@...... and ftp said not isntalled
[13:00] <coz_> ozanorhan,  have you looked here ?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550383
[13:00] <brandonc503> Herbs: and setting type is SFTP - SSH File Transfer Protocol
[13:01] <Herbs> sftp gives the same rights as ssh so your users have the wrong permissions
[13:01] <terrenceKJ> Hi all - Upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04, and banshee doesn play my media files
[13:01] <matthias_> hi, the fan of my thinkpad t60 running ubuntu 10.4 is always on, any ideas what to do?  some time ago it was turning off wen the temperature was low enough
[13:01] <ozanorhan> thanks coz_ i'll look into it.
[13:01] <brandonc503> Herbs: i can adjust those with the tool in Ubuntu right? the User Groups?
[13:01] <Incarus6> !restrictedformats | terrenceKJ
[13:01] <kurtul> http://pastebin.ca/2052500 this computer's wireless doesn't work. is it something fixable?
[13:01] <coz_> ozanorhan,  cool
[13:02] <terrenceKJ> Anyway to solve the banshee issue on 11.04
[13:02] <Herbs> brandon503 if your giving users ssh/sftp access you need to understand linux permissions
[13:02] <kaie> hello. I use harddisk encryption, get a prompt for the disk password during boot, works fine. in addition, I use an external usb drive, also encrypted, same password. currently, I must manually unlock the external driver after boot. I wish ubuntu could use the primary-encrypted-password on boot to unlock attached usb drives, too. any ideas how to do that?
[13:03] <afeder_> what program creates the slick, dark grey ubuntu look with the monocrome icons in the notification area and so on?
[13:03] <Herbs> brandon503 its not something someone can walk you through Im afraid
[13:03] <brandonc503> Herbs: so i cant use the Ubuntu tool. i need to do in terminal?
[13:03] <Herbs> brandon503 yes
[13:03] <Herbs> well I dont know what ubuntu tool is
[13:04] <terrenceKJ> Banshee - palyer help needed
[13:04] <Herbs> Im a red hat user and admin
[13:04] <coz_> terrenceKJ,  not sure,, you could try uninstalling and then reinstalling banshee,, the problem is that ubuntu upgrades from one version to the next is consistently inconsistent,,, I always suggest clean installs,, but completely understand there are circunmstances that an upgrade is needed,,, however,, troubleshooting an upgraded system is far more  difficulte,, that said,, when you open banshee via the terminal and try to play a file,, are there er
[13:04] <coz_> rors  reported?..yes?
[13:04] <terrenceKJ> Not playing anything on 11.04
[13:04] <brandonc503> Herbs: the  System, > Administration > Users and Groups
[13:04] <Daniel0108> hi
[13:04] <linux> Hi
[13:04] <Herbs> brandon503 I dont do gui Im sorry
[13:04] <brandonc503> ah kk
[13:05] <terrenceKJ> Thanks Cos
[13:05] <terrenceKJ> Going to do a fresh Banshee install
[13:05] <coz_> terrenceKJ,   wel wait
[13:05] <coz_> gah
[13:05] <Daniel0108> I have a problem, I can't connect to another IRC network with my client. Only freenode works. If I connect over webchat, it also works. I think there's a firewall running, but I don't know which firewall is still running, I disabled firestarter :/
[13:06] <coz_> Daniel0108,  which client?
[13:06] <Guest153289> why does compiz not work like how it did in 10.04 and 10.10?  Even in ubuntu classic it strips my top bar for close, minimize and maximize, and then doesn't let me move any of my windows
[13:06] <Daniel0108> coz_: xchat and irssi :P
[13:06] <kaie> sometimes it helps to asks questions on irc, it's inspiring for coming up with good search engine questions. found http://www.howtoforge.com/automatically-unlock-luks-encrypted-drives-with-a-keyfile - might be able to solve my scenario
[13:06] <BlouBlou> Daniel0108: which error are you getting?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> Daniel0108:  check with sudo iptables --list to see if thers any rules. I would find it a nifty fireqwall rule that would block irc except for freenode.
[13:06] <coz_> Daniel0108,  thats odd.. i am probably the biggest doof with any kind of networking issue,, however,,, if no one here can help,, try the ##linux channel
[13:06] <Daniel0108> BlouBlou: I can connect to the server, but I get no response from it, I'm online, but I don't get server responses, it's a one-way connection
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Guest153289:  sounds like the window decortator is not running.
[13:07] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: No, iptables accepts all connections
[13:07] <coz_> ah yes Dr_Willis  is far more gifted with networking issues  :)
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Guest153289:  you are saying thers no title bar or buttons for any windows?
[13:07] <danielmorton> hey
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Daniel0108:  if thers no rules. then its not your firewall settings on the pc.
[13:08] <Guest153289> Dr_Willis, correct, but it says gtk window decorator is running, false positive?
[13:08] <Mortz> is this the ubuntu channel or kubuntu??
[13:08] <atlef> ubuntu
[13:08] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: hmm.. so it's a router firewall? but it worked a few days ago... btw, the last message I get from the server is: "* *** Looking up your hostname..."
[13:08] <coz_> Guest153289,   false positive?  mm  did you already try hitting alt+F2     gtk-window-decorator --replace   ...yes?
[13:09] <linux> What is the time? sorry.
[13:09] <coz_> linux,  in which time zone?
[13:09] <Herbs> Dr_Willis do you happen to know of a guide for redhat users to using ubuntu iptables,,,,?
[13:09] <phibxr> linux, you have a /time-command here. ;)
[13:09] <kaie> I wonder if /etc/fstab entries can be made optional. if device is present on boot, then mount it. if not, skip it (proceed boot)
[13:09] <pksadiq> !time
[13:09] <linux> Oh.
[13:10] <Guest153289> coz_, alt-f2 is doing nothing, but in a terminal gtk-window-decorator --replace just hangs
[13:10] <Herbs> I always modify the /etc/sysconfig/firewall and then execute /etc/sysconfig/firewall but I dont think thats the proper way?
[13:10] <kurtul> my wireless doesn't work...
[13:10] <coz_> Guest153289,   ok open ccsm,,Preferences   hit the reset to defaults button
[13:11] <coz_> Guest153289,   is this 11.04  and is it an upgrade or clean install?
[13:11] <maxagaz> Herbs, still here ?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Herbs:  iptables is iptables.. as far as i know
[13:11] <Herbs> not in ubuntu it aint lol
[13:11] <nukem> i am looking for linux distro that asks for root password during  installation
[13:11] <coz_> maxagaz,  you can check if someone is still here by typing the first 2 or 3  letters of their name  and tabbing to see if it completes
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Herbs:  the firewall tools are just front ends to iptables commands as far as  know. The actual iptables and modules are the same.
[13:12] <nukem> why doesn't ubuntu ask for root password during ubuntu installation
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  becuase thers no root password set by default. root user is locked down.
[13:12] <coz_> nukem,   fedora,,, opensuse,,, maybe  gentoo or  sabayon  maybe
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !sudo | nukem
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> root user password - is a rather trivial reason to decide on a disrto.
[13:13] <trailoryo> when im trying to run spotify through wine this is what it says: There is a problem with your sound card. Spotify cant play music.
[13:13] <nukem> Dr_Willis  then what distro ask for root password during installation
[13:13] <brandonc503> Herbs: is this towarsds what i need? http://www.howtoforge.com/chrooted-ssh-sftp-tutorial-debian-lenny
[13:13] <Joris_> hi guys, i happily upgraded to 11 yesterday but now my wireless doesn't work anymore on my laptop:( it says "disabled" -- then I issue the command "iwconfig wlan0 up" (or something like that) the hardware light from my wireless card goes on -- which is good, but I still don't get any internet :(
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  ones mentioned above
[13:13] <Herbs> thats why my methods have always worked because they are just .ssh scripts but Im curious at what the official way to update iptables in ubuntu is
[13:13] <Guest153290> sorry Dr_Willis and coz_ got disconnected, but gtk command did nothing
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  you can always set the root users password. but its not reccomended. and in ubuntu - not needed
[13:13] <Joris_> anyone an idea what i might try? i googled but couldn't find anything that could solve it:(
[13:13] <Herbs> ,sh scripts one to many s
[13:14] <coz_> Guest153289,   is this 11.04  and if so ,, is it an upgrade or clean install?
[13:14] <nukem> dr_willis i don't like distro that disables root
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  I think you need to do more reserch then. Root is not disabled.. its locked down.
[13:14] <nukem> drwillis what is the diffrence between lockeddown and disabled
[13:14] <pksadiq> !/time
[13:14] <bigMike> ugh
[13:14] <bigMike> getting an ugly 'Sorry no more PTYs' error
[13:14] <bigMike> on running screen for a user account?
[13:14] <coz_> nukem,  well ubuntu is "disabled"  on the surface  you can still set a root password,, although I will probably get  hazed for saying that :)
[13:14] <Sidewinder1> coz_: regarding the root pswd thing, what about Slackware?
[13:14] <Herbs> nkem you want root its always there sudo passwd root ;)
[13:14] <Mortz> does anyone know how to get team fortress working on ubuntu?
[13:14] <Joris_> i also tried to boot again with the live cd without success
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  You cant directly login as root. root user is still there. You just use sudo as needed to do root tasks
[13:15] <coz_> Sidewinder1,  that's also possible,,  I havent tried slack for some time now so I dont remember
[13:15] <coz_> Sidewinder1,  many of the other distributions ask for root password long before setting user passwords
[13:15] <nukem> dr_willis   i cannot directly login as root:  is this ubuntu-only thing?
[13:15] <Herbs> somethings dont work with sudo
[13:15] <coz_> Sidewinder1,  you can still set root password in ubuntu
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  you could do it in other disrots i imagine.. i dont bother with other disrtos.
[13:16] <Zeit|awy> OS X also, just use su -
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Herbs:  if you know what you are doing.. they all should work with sudo
[13:16] <ozanorhan> is removing softwares that came with ubuntu dangerous. i mean softwares like evolution and empathy
[13:16] <nukem> i refuse to use ubuntu for this reason then
[13:16] <coz_> Sidewinder1,  I think that was for nukem
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  have a nice day then.. goodby
[13:16] <coz_> nukem,  then set the root password in ubuntu
[13:16] <Herbs> no smaba shares on certain setyups sont work with sudo
[13:16] <nukem> coz can i log in as root  after setting root password
[13:16] <coz_> nukem,  yes
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Herbs:  cant say that ive ever had an issue with samba shares.
[13:16] <nukem> then why did drwill said no i cannot
[13:17] <ikonia> nukem: if you don't know these things - you should be using sudo
[13:17] <coz_> nukem,   well I dont its supported here
[13:17] <ikonia> there is no reason to login as root
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> nukem:  i said you dont need to set the paswsword. theres no need to login directly as root.
[13:17] <nukem> ikonia  what do you mean i don't know these things: i know how to use root
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> you definatly dont want to logint o X as root.
[13:17] <lightstep> hello
[13:17] <Guest153290> other example is that i cannot move windows, alt-mouse1 does nothing either
[13:17] <ikonia> nukem: yet you don't know that you need to set a password to login as root
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> coz_:Naw, I understand; I was just wondering...
[13:17] <lightstep> i created a new indicator applet for myself, in ~/bin
[13:17] <coz_>  Sidewinder1  ok cool
[13:17] <lightstep> how do i make it start when i log in?
[13:17] <Herbs> root isnt dirty just becareful if your new
[13:18] <nukem> ikonia  because it's usually asked during  installation
[13:18] <shahrul> welcome
[13:18] <DASSDDSAFA> hi
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> wheres more to sudo then just somthing  to add another layer to get to root. :)
[13:18] <ikonia> nukem: the sudo model is quite basic and effective
[13:18] <bigMike> anyone?
[13:18] <lightstep> i can't find the xsession script any more
[13:18] <bigMike> how can I unblock ttyp1?
[13:18] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: It's definitely my firewall, I tried it on my desktop and it worked
[13:18] <trailoryo> when im trying to run spotify through wine this is what it says: There is a problem with your sound card. Spotify cant play music. Anyone?
[13:18] <nukem> ikonia i hate sudo model with a passion
[13:18] <bigMike> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp1' - please check.
[13:18] <ikonia> bigMike: saying anyone is pointless, ask a question and wait for a response
[13:18] <ikonia> nukem: yet you don't understand it.....hence you'd know to set a root password
[13:18] <Herbs> sudo on ubuntu is root basically bevause it allows all
[13:18] <DASSDDSAFA> hi
[13:18] <bigMike> ok sorry
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Daniel0108:  flush all the firewall rules.. You said there were none allready.
[13:19] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: are there other firewalls, I don't think iptables is the only firewall I have :P
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Daniel0108:  what other firewalls? i dont see much point in layers of firewalls really :)
[13:19] <Herbs> but you still seem to need root for certain things i.e setting up autofs using sudo messes it up
[13:19] <Zeit|awy> nukem: su - ; whoami -->root
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[13:19] <coz_> nukem,  did you see my PM?
[13:19] <Guest153290> welp, i guess i'll just reinstall then, hopefully compiz and the window decorator will feel better on the other side
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Zeit|awy:  that dont work in ubuntu.
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Zeit|awy:  use sudo -i
[13:20] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: yes I know, but I installed ufw, and then I removed it because it blocked the connections :/
[13:20] <Zeit|awy> since when?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Daniel0108:  ufw is a front end to iptables. the iptables command would show the rules ufw made.
[13:20] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: yes, there were rules, but I flushed them
[13:20] <Herbs> and?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Zeit|awy:  since.. always.. as far as i know.
[13:21] <Herbs> there still there in /etc/sysconfig/firewall
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> those rules would get reinstalled on reboot Herbs  i belive.
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> using iptables command directly bypassed the normal rule set.
[13:21] <Herbs> unless you flushed them before writing thm
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> flush all your troubles away :)
[13:22] <Herbs> they would if they werent saved
[13:22] <wujie> ubuntu11.04 BAD
[13:22] <BlouBlou> ok
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> wujie:  demand a refund.
[13:22] <atlef> haha
[13:22] <amews_aj> wujie, why do you think that?
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> I still cant imagine what sort of Firewall rule would block other IRC networks but not freenode. Unless is some port range. or they require IDENTD
[13:23] <Magnusson> testing my client settings, could someone mention my name in channel in 5 secs?
[13:23] <karthick87> How to list all biggest directories in a drive?
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> karthick87:  for the whole drive? or in the users home?
[13:23] <wujie> no use wine
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> Side wants 10% of wujie's refund   :-)
[13:23] <Zeit|awy> Dr_Willis: no, it works, but after you set the root passwd once
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> wujie:  if you have a support question - please state it.
[13:23] <karthick87> Dr_Willis: For the whole drive?
[13:24] <wujie> Looking forward to gnome3
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> Zeit|awy:  and setting a root password is definatly not needed..
[13:24] <Herbs> who thinks there firewalls blocking channels is WRONG
[13:24] <trailoryo> Magnusson
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> Zeit|awy:  and not reccomended or advised or supported by this channel
[13:24] <ozanorhan> coz_got one more question. is removing softwares that came with ubuntu dangerous. i mean softwares like evolution and empathy
[13:24] <Magnusson> thanks trailoryo :)
[13:24] <Magnusson> hmm no sound
[13:24] <trailoryo> np
[13:24] <bigMike> arghs
[13:24] <bigMike> screen is fully dead for me
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> karthick87:  via command line 'du -hs' perhaps.
[13:24] <bigMike> the server went down
[13:24] <bigMike> and since it came back up this is an issue now
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> karthick87:  via command line 'du -hs /' perhaps.
[13:24] <ubuntu345332> is it possibile to force the nomodeset on a ubuntu 11.04 pendrive live?
[13:25] <Herbs> the firewall will block ranges, ports hostnames but not allow one irc channel without the others unless its a seriously locked down firewall
[13:25] <ubuntu345332> (as default)
[13:25] <bigMike> any users apart from root cannot run screen now
[13:25] <wujie> Why was not compatible with QQ?
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> ozanorhan, You may remove them if you want; if you want them back, simply reinstall.
[13:25] <DJRoby4> hello, I have a problem: I installed ubuntu and on reboot appears only a black screen with a blinking white dash
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu345332:  you can edit the syslinux.cfg files on th pendrive. or hit the space key when it boots and you see the man logo (i think) and hit F6 and enable nomodeset
[13:25] <Incarus6> wujie, pls ask a complete question
[13:25] <ozanorhan> thanks Sidewinder1
[13:25] <wujie> ok，
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> ozanorhan, No problem.
[13:26] <bigMike> when one runs screen
[13:26] <Incarus6> Do someone know where I can revert the new background-colorsettings of Grub in 11.04? grub.cfg?
[13:26] <bigMike> where is the ttyp directed?
[13:26] <wujie> Why did not the cool 3D ？
[13:26] <nukem> what is last version of ubuntu to NOT use "sudo-model"?
[13:26] <ikonia> nukem: there isn't one
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> Incarus6:  you should be editing the /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/ files. Not grub.cfg
[13:26] <ikonia> nukem: they all use the sudo security model
[13:26] <bigMike> hi ikonia
[13:26] <ubuntu345332> Dr_Willis, thx i know with the f6, but i give a look to the syslinux.cfg thx
[13:26] <nukem> i refuse to use  sudomodel
[13:27] <ikonia> hello
[13:27] <ikonia> nukem: don't use ubuntu then, thanks
[13:27] <DJRoby4> hello, I have a problem: I installed ubuntu and on reboot appears only a black screen with a blinking white dash
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu345332:  the syslinux configs on the flash are rather complex.. takes me some time to figure out which file to edit.
[13:27] <bigMike> guess no one else has faced these issues?
[13:27] <Pelo> all my calendars now start the week on saturday , this is effing ridiculous
[13:27] <ikonia> bigMike: what's the problem ?
[13:27] <ubuntu345332> Dr_Willis, thx :(((((
[13:27] <pao> does any one know to make my backtrack 4 r2 look like mac??
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu345332:  the default syslinux.cfg includes other files. i had to look through them all the other day
[13:27] <bigMike> @ikonia
[13:27] <bigMike> Cannot open your terminal '/dev/ttyp1' - please check.
[13:27] <karthick87> Dr_Willis: Thank you :)
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> pao:  ask in the backtrack channekl.
[13:28] <DJRoby4> anyone can help me?
[13:28] <ikonia> pao: ask in #backtrack-linux - we don't support backtrack in this channel
[13:28] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, Im not sure where canonical located the color setting (it's not in /etc/default/grub) , is it  /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme?
[13:28] <ikonia> bigMike: at boot time ?
[13:28] <atlef> !backtrack | pao
[13:28] <bigMike> indeed
[13:28] <Herbs> ikonia its not that simple with gfx drivers these days
[13:28] <ikonia> bigMike: 11.04 ?
[13:28] <Pelo> anyone know where I'M suppose to change the first weekday now ?  /usr/share/i18n/locales isn'T it apparently
[13:28] <bigMike> 10.04
[13:28] <ikonia> Herbs: what ?
[13:28] <bigMike> LTS
[13:28] <DJRoby4> anyone can help me
[13:28] <DJRoby4> ???
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Incarus6:  i would have to check the grub2 docs/guides and configs. I disable the fancy grub stuff and enable the old-skool text look in /etc/default/grub
[13:28] <Herbs> not using ubuntu
[13:28] <Belias> Hi, what to use in order to code with C and C++ ?
[13:29] <ikonia> Herbs: what are you talking about ?
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> !ask | DJRoby4
[13:29] <Pelo> DJRoby4, did you have ubuntu working before ?
[13:29] <Pelo> sidewalk, read up, he did ask
[13:29] <ikonia> Belias:  text editor and a compiler - gcc is the most common on the linux platform
[13:29] <Pelo> Sidewinder1, , he did ask , read up
[13:29] <ikonia> bigMike: has this ever worked ?
[13:29] <Herbs> err ubuntu is the most trouble free disto to get gfx working when they are needed
[13:29] <DJRoby4> Pelo, i got elementary os, I've done a fresh install of natty
[13:29] <bigMike> for the past um year xD
[13:30] <ikonia> Herbs: no-one said it's not, what are you talking about
[13:30] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, nevermind, it's not that important, just annyoing (text isn't shown up correctly)
[13:30] <bigMike> it's a VPS
[13:30] <bigMike> been running fine
[13:30] <Pelo> DJRoby4, anything odd about your hardware ?
[13:30] <Sidewinder1> Pelo: sorry, trying to multi-task several channels; failing miserably.
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Incarus6:  fancy grub menu here set the monitor out of range. :) so i had to change it.
[13:30] <ikonia> bigMike: can you boot the box ?
[13:30] <bigMike> and I've setup byobu under my usual account that I ssh into (keypair)
[13:30] <bigMike> not a box, it's a virtual container
[13:30] <pao> hi want to learn more about the use of metasploit instead of simply run and hack virtual machines
[13:30] <ikonia> bigMike: virtual container ? in that case look at the permissions
[13:30] <bigMike> persm of?
[13:31] <ikonia> pao: join the mailing list then
[13:31] <bigMike> ttyp1 itself?
[13:31] <ikonia> bigMike: within the container
[13:31] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: I flushed my iptables config and it's still blocking the connection, I don't know WHAT is blocking my connection. I messed up my firewall config :/
[13:31] <pao> how to join???
[13:31] <DJRoby4> Pelo, to install ubuntu I had to remove the nvidia hardware raid, my motherboard is an asus m4n98td evo, my video card is an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470
[13:31] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: It worked before I set up firewall stuff yesterday
[13:31] <ikonia> pao: read the support information on their website
[13:31] <phibxr> DJRoby4, you should probably ask on the elementary forums/channels instead.
[13:31] <bigMike> yea but perms of what inside the cointainer
[13:31] <bigMike> ttyp1 itself or?
[13:32] <ikonia> bigMike: of the ttyp1 device file, but the one that is within the container
[13:32] <DJRoby4> phibxr, no I removed elementary and I have installed natty!
[13:32] <Daniel0108> Dr_Willis: are there any logs where I can see what is blocking the connection?
[13:32] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, I allways wonder how ubuntu can broke working things ;) I can't hibernate anymore since upgrade, grubs text isn't shown correctly, unity isn't working, and and and :D
[13:32] <coz_> pao,   where you type here   type  /join #nameofchannel
[13:32] <phibxr> DJRoby4, oh, I see. I thought you upgraded. :)
[13:32] <bigMike> annoying Plesk doesn't show me any perms
[13:32] <bigMike> *annoyingly
[13:32] <syn3rgy> How do I get my weather app.
[13:32] <Pelo> DJRoby4, the nvidia raid stuff is out of my leaque but that shoudln'T matter at this point,  wher you able to run a live session ?
[13:32] <DJRoby4> phibxr, no, a fresh install
[13:32] <ikonia> bigMike: can you show me the output of uname -a please ?
[13:32] <Herbs> bigmike plesk is shit but whats your issue?
[13:33] <ikonia> Herbs: control the language please.
[13:33] <coz_> syn3rgy,  in 11.04  the weather applet you mean ...yes?
[13:33] <studentz> Hi there I mounted two encrypted HD using Disk Utility They don't appear neither  in media directory or .gvfs.  Also there is not icon of them in the dock or my desktop. I'm in natty  How I can find them
[13:33] <DJRoby4> Pelo, yes I can run a live session and I removed the Raid!
[13:33] <bigMike> Herbs will do when it's back up :)
[13:33] <syn3rgy> coz_ yes. I really don't want to use some sort of clouding though.
[13:33] <Herbs> bigmike plesk sucks big time
[13:33] <pao> coz, how will i know the name of the channel
[13:33] <ikonia> Herbs: you've said that - give it a rest
[13:33] <Herbs> whats up with it?
[13:33] <Pelo> DJRoby4, , when you get that blinking cursor, can you type anyting or it is just a timer ( busybox) ?
[13:33] <ikonia> pao: look on their website
[13:33] <bigMike> ok when I last sshed in
[13:33] <bigMike> 2.6.18-028stab089.1 #1 SMP Thu Apr 14 13:46:04 MSD 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
[13:33] <coz_> syn3rgy,  I think that is mentioned here as well as other tweaks possible   http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[13:34] <Herbs> ikonia I didnt swear though!
[13:34] <pao> coz, ive joined irrc chat now only
[13:34] <matthias_> hi, the fan of my thinkpad t60 running ubuntu 10.4 is always on, any ideas what to do?  some time ago it was turning off wen the temperature was low enough
[13:34] <DJRoby4> Pelo, if you wait for me, I try
[13:34] <ikonia> bigMike: it maybe worth talking to your hosting provider, the reason I say that is that vps has a modified kernel (other things are probably modified too)
[13:34] <syn3rgy> coz_ thx
[13:34] <pao> and everything is new to me in this chat room
[13:34] <bigMike> ikonia: ok thanks.  yeah something is very wrong here.
[13:34] <coz_> syn3rgy,  some of that is pretty interesting on that link
[13:34] <bigMike> MediaTemple - and their support are being nasty about this issue
[13:34] <Pelo> DJRoby4, I 'll wait , just  say my nick when you come back to it hightlights me
[13:34] <Pelo> DJRoby4, I won'T wait an hour
[13:35] <DJRoby4> Pelo, ok! thanks!
[13:35] <Herbs> ikonia I work for an ISP that provide plesk and yes thats true but might be able to help
[13:35] <bigMike> sure it's a Linux VPS but when the container resets and I loose SSHd how the hell is it something I can manage?
[13:35] <KNUBBIG> Hi, is there an option to tell irssi to set away automagically after, say 30 min, and change the nick?
[13:35] <coz_>  by the way ,,, good day all  :)
[13:35] <Pelo> KNUBBIG, irssi has a nice channel of their own
[13:35] <_Keepiru> i cant get it running properly again. damn it.
[13:35] <Herbs> bigmike your issue is not plesk
[13:35] <KNUBBIG> Pelo: ok ...
[13:36] <_Keepiru> i just run an update to 11, and if this works, i disable ALL updates.
[13:36] <tjiggi_fo> top o the mornin' coz_ :)
[13:36] <DJRoby4> Pelo, I'm waiting to see if a couple of minutes to change something
[13:37] <coz_> tjiggi_fo,   :)  thanks
[13:37] <DJRoby4> Pelo, nothing, I can't type nothing
[13:38] <knifepoint> I am have some serious Launcher/Window focus issues with Unity in Ubuntu 11.04 is there a compiz plugin i shoul/shouldn't have enabled?
[13:38] <knifepoint> *having
[13:38] <Pelo> DJRoby4, ,ok , are you sure (don't be insuslted just checking) that you are installing the correct version for your hardware ( ie 32/64 bit )
[13:39] <DJRoby4> Pelo, i've got a 64 bit processor, but I installed 32 bit version
[13:39] <DJRoby4> Pelo, CPU*
[13:39] <syn3rgy> How do I make Dash stop showing all my porn!
[13:39] <Glycan> What is the delete/erase command on terminal?
[13:39] <bigMike> lols syn
[13:39] <bigMike> rm ?
[13:39] <Glycan> tHANKS.
[13:39] <bigMike> sudo rm rf *
[13:39] <Glycan> rf?
[13:39] <Herbs> rm -rf /
[13:39] <bigMike> rm -rf /
[13:39] <coz_> Glycan,   rm -rf  /nameof directory or file
[13:39] <bigMike> yea :)
[13:40] <Glycan> What does that mean?
[13:40] <Herbs> no dont
[13:40] <Glycan> rf
[13:40] <bigMike> r = recursive
[13:40] <bigMike> f = force
[13:40] <Glycan> Oh.
[13:40] <Pelo> DJRoby4, that should work but I would recommend you try the 64 bit one,  in anycase I was going to suggest that you try a second install using the alternate install cd,   it's text based ( looks like the old dosshell)  and it used to be slightly more reliable when you had install problems with the live version
[13:40] <Herbs> remove all files and force it from /
[13:40] <bigMike> you need that for directories
[13:40] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, I found a small tool called "startupmanager", that fixed it for me (you can also change the resolution with it
[13:40] <Incarus6> !info startupmanager
[13:40] <bigMike> well / would wipe *everything*
[13:40] <syn3rgy> I downloaded my porn fair and square. Its mine. Thing is that I don't needed flagged all over my Dash.
[13:40] <Glycan> Okay, so if I'm in /host/Windows, and I say rm -rf *.*, will that work the way I think it should?
[13:41] <DJRoby4> Pelo, but the installer works!
[13:41] <sam_00393948> hey.   i tried to upgrade to 11.04 yesterday and it basically busted up.  Does anyone know if there are any issues with upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04?
[13:41] <coz_> syn3rgy, ooo especially if others use that system
[13:41] <motomast3r> hello to all. any one can help with alsamixer ?
[13:41] <scott__> Anybody have issues with getting firefox to play nice with the globalmenu in 11.04?
[13:41] <Pelo> DJRoby4, oh sorry I thought you wanted the computer to work ...
[13:42] <DJRoby4> Pelo, I did not say anything
[13:42] <syn3rgy> coz_ yeah really...em like my wife
[13:42] <TheWubber> where are VLC settings stored?
[13:42] <syn3rgy> coz_ "yeah honey thats you" is not going to work
[13:42] <coz_> syn3rgy,  :)   I believe its possible to create a  private folder,, although I have never done this  or needed to,,
[13:42] <TheWubber> can't find them in /home
[13:43] <jrib> TheWubber: check ~/.config/vlc/
[13:43] <Pelo> DJRoby4, it happens that the installer will go all the way to the end but something goes wrong in the install and it won'T boot properly,  in such cases reinstall , using the alternate install cd if possible
[13:43] <syn3rgy> coz_ I guess I could roll with TrueCrypt
[13:43] <coz_> syn3rgy,   you may have to google that one unless,, which I am sure,, someone here knows the procedure
[13:43] <knifepoint> Anyone else having endless focus issues with the unity launcher and window focus? Wondering if there is a fix because if there isn't its pretty sloppy for a final ubuntu release. (I have a feeling it may be one of my compiz plugins though)
[13:43] <ikonia> syn3rgy: not interested in your porn issues, drop it now
[13:43] <TheWubber> jrib: thanks
[13:43] <DJRoby4> #in any case there is another solution?
[13:43] <coz_> syn3rgy,  yeah that one confused me too :)
[13:43] <syn3rgy> ikonia ok how about your bosses work photos?
[13:43] <coz_> syn3rgy,   networking  truecrypt ,, I am a dunce :)
[13:43] <DJRoby4> Pelo, my connection is very slow and if possible I would like to avoid
[13:44] <ikonia> syn3rgy: we can help you with technical issues - just don't be provokative with the topic as you are clearly trying to be
[13:44] <DonDraper> crap! I ran that rm -rf / command.  What do I do now?
[13:44] <Dazzled1> anyone knows where I could ask a question about the Google Chrome PDF plugin (I'm using Ubuntu)
[13:45] <ikonia> DonDraper: nothing - it won't have done anything
[13:45] <NickUK`> DonDraper,  - Reinstall!
[13:45] <ikonia> NickUK`: no
[13:45] <Glycan> Is there a  doing-stuff-for-windows channal?
[13:45] <DonDraper> oh phew
[13:45] <NickUK`> Well it depends if you've ran it as root :P
[13:45] <ikonia> Glycan: ##windows
[13:45] <Glycan> Thanks.
[13:45] <Incarus6> DonDraper, old joke, nothing happend
[13:45] <ikonia> NickUK`: no it doesn't there is a layer of protection within coreutils
[13:45] <coz_> DonDraper,  I hope the command you used was NOT      rm -rf  /
[13:45] <Glycan> So how do you delete all the files in a folder?
[13:45] <ikonia> coz_: stop it
[13:45] <Incarus6> coz_, try it, nothing will happen
[13:45] <syn3rgy> cvs -d$CVSROOT checkout -rOPENBSD_4_8 -P src ports xenocara
[13:45] <coz_> ikonia,  I beg your pardon
[13:46] <ikonia> coz_: "stop it"
[13:46] <NickUK`> Glycan - If you want to delete the contents of a folder you do the rm -f but you do it like for example "rm -f /home/user/folder"
[13:46] <coz_> ikonia,  no  because I dont know what you are talking about
[13:46] <Pelo> DJRoby4, there are to many things that could be responsible during the boot process, Reinstall is the only option that makes sense, you could try just reinsalling again,  from the  cd, don'T boot the live session, just go straith to the installer,  to a 100% clean install, ei whipe the hdd and start from scratch ( obviously you'd have to backup your data)
[13:46] <knifepoint> syn3rgy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29559/how-can-i-keep-recent-files-from-appearing-in-unity
[13:46] <DonDraper> oh I see, good thing I didn't do sudo rm -rf /*
[13:46] <Glycan> Thjanks.
[13:46] <ikonia> DonDraper: stop putting that command in the channel
[13:46] <DonDraper> oh sorry
[13:46] <Incarus6> DonDraper, nothing will happen. "man rm"
[13:46] <DonDraper> was worried.
[13:46] <syn3rgy> knifepoint thx.
[13:46] <DonDraper> ok
[13:47] <pao> anyone tell me how disable the unity interface on natty narwhal??
[13:47] <zhjawe> Hi,Does anyone know how to install 3D desktop without Internet?
[13:47] <coz_> darn fingers
[13:47] <NickUK`> I've a question here on the upgrade for some reason Ubuntu wont install from my BOOT USB it goes all static on my screen, apt-get dist-upgrade wont upgrade it, running the updater with my Boot USB fails from multiple attempts from multiple downloads.
[13:47] <scott__> I was just wondering why when I install applications from software center, it says "The installation or removal of a software package failed." But when I check, the program was installed anyway.  Is there a setting somewhere I need to tweak to stop that message from appearing?
[13:47] <TheWubber> zhjawe: download the packages from a computer that has internet and transfer them onto the machine
[13:47] <coz_> ikonia,   i am not sure why you want to stop something,, if you meant that command,, I would have expected an explanation as to why
[13:47] <NickUK`> So what else is the best way to upgrade from the Beta of the Ubuntu 11.04 to the latest?
[13:47] <Incarus6> ikonia, as long as they forget the no-preserve-root option..
[13:47] <jrib> !final | NickUK`
[13:47] <ikonia> Incarus6: exactly
[13:47] <atlef> pao, log out and choose ubuntu classic in the bottom panel before you login again
[13:48] <NickUK`> ikonia,  - I've already done that will run it again though
[13:48] <ikonia> NickUK`: done what ?
[13:48] <NickUK`> That command
[13:48] <ikonia> what command ?
[13:48] <NickUK`> The dist upgrade
[13:48] <coz_> oh brother
[13:48] <NickUK`> And updating my apt
[13:48] <zoufeng> yes,what commond?
[13:48] <ikonia> I didn't tell you to do anything ?
[13:48] <NickUK`> jrib sorry :P
[13:49] <zoufeng> no,you donont.
[13:49] <zhjawe> TheWubber:what package is needing?
[13:49] <jrib> NickUK`: what's the output you get from running « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » ?
[13:49] <NickUK`> I know I'm not upgraded to
[13:49] <NickUK`> Woops
[13:49] <NickUK`> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:49] <scott__> I was just wondering why when I install applications from software center, it says "The installation or removal of a software package failed." But when I check, the program was installed anyway.  Is there a setting somewhere I need to tweak to stop that message from appearing?
[13:49] <Fleck> anyone can install fglrx on natty?
[13:49] <jrib> NickUK`: no it's not
[13:49] <jrib> NickUK`: use a pastebin
[13:49] <maxagaz> please, can someone help me to set ssh tunnelling with firefox, I can't manage to make it work, I always get a blank page in firefox, and tcpdump sees nothing related to the pages I'm trying to open with it
[13:50] <bindi> when doing "sudo reboot" or "sudo shutdown -r now", it tells me system going for blabla.. and kills ssh.. yet the computer never reboots, just sits @ black screen. Why?
[13:50] <rozander1> hi guys
[13:50] <ikonia> scott__: it may be talking about a different package, not the one you are trying to install
[13:50] <syn3rgy> I was looking at the core Unity code the other night. Is there a reason that they are not doing this in C ? C++ doses not feel like Linux
[13:50] <dellman> drivers for wireless network card on dell inspiron 1300?
[13:50] <NickUK`> http://pastebin.com/T8ZQSWJ6
[13:50] <rozander1> hmmm ive updated to 11.04, and i have the nvidia evga 570 gtx...and basically i have to boot in safety mode...becouse i dont have the proper driver
[13:51] <ikonia> syn3rgy: are you struggling to grasp this channels topic ?
[13:51] <billy1987> I just want the desktop on 11.04???
[13:51] <syn3rgy> dellman they should be in the Mac stack
[13:51] <ikonia> syn3rgy: stop - check the topic, it's ubuntu support discussion
[13:51] <bindi> maxagaz: did you set http proxy? youre supposed to set SOCKS proxy and nothing else
[13:52] <knifepoint> Anyone have any ideas about my untiy focus issue?
[13:52] <dellman> i have installed 11.04 but wireless network is not detected
[13:52] <maxagaz> bindi, yes, that's what I did
[13:52] <bindi> maxagaz: and what ssh command did you run
[13:52] <scott__> ikonia, when I scrolled through the details, I got this " dpkg: error processing grub-pc (--configure):
[13:52] <scott__>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 128" I remember when I did an upgrade from Maverick that it said there was an error with grub-pc
[13:52] <dellman> any ideas apart from being a driver issue?
[13:52] <knifepoint> I am about to revert back to normal gnome metacity if no one has any ideas.
[13:53] <maxagaz> bindi, ssh -D 9999 user@server
[13:53] <maxagaz> bindi, it connects successfully
[13:53] <syn3rgy> dellman the divers you are using should be in mac80211 (kernel) and not in some  ieee80211 stack.
[13:53] <bindi> maxagaz: and then socks proxy localhost:9999?
[13:53] <maxagaz> bindi, yes
[13:53] <bindi> maxagaz: weird, should work..
[13:53] <red> Been a lot of traffic since the release? :)
[13:54] <rozander1> guys any ideaqs if the experiemental 3d driver will fix my ubuntu 11.04 boot issues for graphics driver
[13:54] <red> Big problems?
[13:54] <ikonia> syn3rgy: how is that an ubuntu support comment ?
[13:54] <securetux> Hi! Can someone give me a hand here? I've just upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 but i cant enter in graphical mode. (now Im in low graphics)
[13:54] <gordon_> hello,I'm building lfs6.3 in virtual box, and I've got "VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS...", my root fs is reiserfs in /dev/sda1. how to do?
[13:54] <rozander1> securetux
[13:54] <rozander1> are you using nvidia gpu
[13:54] <ikonia> gordon_: join the lfs support channel
[13:54] <maxagaz> bindi, sorry, it works...
[13:54] <bindi> maxagaz: lol :p
[13:54] <securetux> rozander1, no, ati radeon 4520
[13:54] <gordon_> ikonia, thank you
[13:54] <rozander1> i have the same problem with the nvidia 570 gtx
[13:54] <maxagaz> bindi, I've set localhost in the http line instead of the socks line
[13:54] <rozander1> iam tryign to use the 3d experimental graphics driver
[13:55] <rozander1> maybe that will work
[13:55] <bindi> maxagaz: yeah i thought so too :-)
[13:55] <maxagaz> bindi, thanks you very much!
[13:55] <bindi> maxagaz: yw :)
[13:55] <scott__> i actually found something when I did an internet search.  I'll go read that first :D
[13:55] <ozanorhan> Hi again. i removed evolution and installed thunderbird but my indicator is not working with it. when i clicked set up mail nothing happens. and yes i changed preferred app from system menu.
[13:55] <syn3rgy> ikonia maybe because a lot of the kernel work for that part of the stack was done by Me?
[13:55] <securetux> rozander1, Ok can you let me know if it works? :)
[13:55] <syn3rgy> ikonia by the way I am Onryo
[13:55] <rozander1> yah ill let you no
[13:56] <ikonia> syn3rgy: then it's nothing to do with ubuntu - get with the topic "ubuntu support" please
[13:56] <ikonia> so ?
[13:56] <sbp_> when i boot ubuntu 11.04 install cd on my acer aspire 5334 laptop i am able to see a menu askign to try ubuntu or install ubuntu, no matter which i select i just get a black screen.  anybody know a work around?
[13:56] <ZeXx86> Can anybody answer the question http://askubuntu.com/questions/25785/can-auto-hide-for-the-application-menu-be-turned-off-in-unity/38794#38794 ?
[13:57] <jrib> NickUK`: still there?
[13:57] <NickUK`> jrib - Yes, sorry I'm here
[13:57] <jrib> NickUK`: can you pastebin the full output?
[13:57] <syn3rgy> ikonia Ubuntu is a spin off of Debian. "unity" is just a windows manager. In fact We are using GNU/Linux with the flavor Ubuntu 11.04
[13:58] <NickUK`> Yes I did two seconds will re-link it to you.
[13:58] <NickUK`> jrib,  - http://pastebin.com/T8ZQSWJ6
[13:58] <ikonia> syn3rgy: so that has nothing to do with the discussion - this is the last time I'll tell you, #ubuntu is for ubuntu support discussion, please try to get with it
[13:58] <EmuAlert> If I set crontab to run at a specific time and the computer's off then, will it run the next time I turn the computer on?
[13:59] <jrib> NickUK`: that indicates you *are* up to date
[13:59] <NickUK`> That's the thing I know I'm not upto date
[13:59] <jrib> NickUK`: how?
[13:59] <NickUK`> If I plug my BootUSB into my laptop and run Update-Manager it tells me there is an update and trys to install it from the USB.
[13:59] <Diverdude> if I have a sequence like 1,10,4,8,10   how do i plot that with gnu plot from the command line?
[13:59] <NickUK`> But for some reason it chucks errors at me, I cannot install from the USB as the screen turns like static you get from a TV but it doesn't move.
[13:59] <jrib> NickUK`: what update?  Do « apt-cache policy PACKAGE » on the package
[14:00] <knifepoint> It's a shame Unity can't even do something simple like take the window focus...... I have to use the Alt + F1 key combination to get focus. Does anyone know what could be causing this?
[14:00] <nir0> hi guys, after updating ubuntu on my notebook i stacked with starting up. after login pc thinks about nothing for like 10 seconds and says that cannot update .ICEauthority. i tried to adjust rights and ownership of this file - nothing helps
[14:00] <ubuntu-user> do i need to upgrade from maverick to natty?
[14:00] <NickUK`> jrib - Can I pm you I can't read while everyone else is chatting and logging in/out of IRC
[14:01] <ikonia> ubuntu-user: no, you don't "need" to
[14:01] <aliquis> Can't say I've ever ran Ubuntu much, kinda only one version. Anyway, back when the installer was changed from the good old debian one to the new graphical crap the installer didn't work. Now I have a HDD which may end its life so I wanted a LiveDVD and got Knoppix but later also fetched the latest Ubuntu CD so I could install that on some other HDD. But I've tried booting it with noacpi nolacpi and other options but no su
[14:01] <aliquis> ccess. It always crashes either after choosing "try" or "install" or if I choose either from the boot loader as soon as I click the install or firefox icon in the live desktop environment. Machine is an Athlon64 on Via K8T800 motherboard with NV6800LE. Any ideas? I would had been so much happier with a simple installation which actually worked and then try to figure out how to make everything else work than have an instal
[14:01] <aliquis> ler try to make everything work from the beginning, fail and then try to figure out why it fails ..
[14:01] <FloodBot3> aliquis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:01] <ubuntu-user> thnks ikonia
[14:01] <jrib> NickUK`: if you must, but I'd prefer it if we stayed in channel (just read the highlighted text and ignore the rest)
[14:01] <berefeira> anyone have slow ssh and terminal issues?
[14:01] <NickUK`> Alright, that gives 500s on everything can pastebin it for you if you like.
[14:01] <alazyworkaholic> I've a whole set of problems. 1st, I'm using ATI catalyst, (need it) & second I can't get a big red/white '1' in the top left corner to go away.
[14:02] <billy1987> How do i get the desktop cube going on 11.04?
[14:02] <Glycan> How do you make the windows wobbely?
[14:02] <nir0> can anyone help me?
[14:02] <knifepoint> billy1987: install ccsm
[14:03] <billy1987> what is ccsm?
[14:03] <knifepoint> billy1987: Compiz Config Setting Manager lets you tunr on and off the compiz plugins
[14:03] <PurpleSmoke> billy1987,  advanced configuration settings for compiz
[14:03] <PurpleSmoke> you can find it at software center
[14:03] <alazyworkaholic> billy1987: & Glycan: Click power button top right > System Settings > CompizConfig Manager (After installing ccsm)
[14:04] <aliquis> billy1987: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion ?
[14:04] <pao> alguem fala portugues aqui??
[14:04] <LjL> !br | pao
[14:04] <andreas_> hi, i installed gnome 3 (i use nouveau). Everything runs snappy but moving the windows lags a lot. the mouse is much faster than the window moves. Anyone know of this problem?
[14:04] <Onryo> Sigh... a lot of the ppl at FFmpeg, x264, VP8 were moaning that there was no script to install that stuff from git. Well I just wrote one for Natty
[14:04] <Onryo> http://pastebin.com/u/Onryo
[14:05] <Onryo> Even a retard can use that
[14:05] <pao> obrigado
[14:05] <andreas_> (i'm using 11.04)
[14:05] <billy1987> ok i have that but when i go to enable it it says it needs to disable the desktop wall... i click ok and then it says: desktop wa;; provides the feature LARGGEDESKTOP wich is required by the plugins UBUNTU UNITY PLUGIN... shoudl i do that... i am afraid I will break something
[14:05] <andreas_> heard it might have something to do with nouveau and vsync. maybe anyone know how to disable vsync with nouveau?
[14:05] <nir0> my pc is blocked after update and i have no idea how to cure this, plz help
[14:05] <knifepoint> billy1987: depends how much you want the cube :)
[14:06] <billy1987> well whats it do if i disable the wall?
[14:06] <jooiiee> Hi guys! How do i see if i run beta or shipped version??
[14:06] <ikonia> jooiiee: what did you install ?
[14:06] <LjL> jooiiee: if you kept it updated (the automatic updater does that), you're running final
[14:06] <LjL> !final > jooiiee    (jooiiee, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:06] <knifepoint> billy1987: I have the cube running on my unity desktop
[14:06] <bullethead> question about the gnome3 ppa, anyone using it?
[14:06] <billy1987> and there is no problem?
[14:07] <billy1987> everything is the same as it was?
[14:07] <ikonia> bullethead: it's not supported here
[14:07] <LjL> bullethead: better to just ask your question. however, it's not really supported, it's known to break things.
[14:07] <knifepoint> billy1987: lol i am actually trying to fix a window focus issue with unity now but i dont think its related to the cube plugin
[14:07] <jooiiee> ikonia, i installed 10.04 but i uppdated it to 11.04 beta.
[14:07] <ikonia> jooiiee: have you kept it up to date ?
[14:07] <jooiiee> LjL, Thx!
[14:07] <aliquis> Anyone got any ideas what to do if the installer crashes as soon as you click any button or icon (choosing language work but that's all), then the CD spins a little, mouse pointer to, and then it hangs. Additional boot parameters?
[14:07] <jooiiee> ikonia, yepp
[14:07] <billy1987> ok i am going to try it... if my computer catches on fire im blaming you knifepoint
[14:08] <ikonia> jooiiee: then you are running the stable version
[14:08] <andreas_> How can i disable vsync with nouveau driver?
[14:08] <bullethead> what's the global package name for the gnome 3 desktop using the ppa, I know it's not supported sorry, is it gnome3-desktop or something
[14:08] <knifepoint> billy1987: the reason it needs to disable the wall is because you can have ne or the other not both the wall is just the 4 squares instead of the flashy cube
[14:08] <andreas_> bullethead, i just installed it
[14:08] <knifepoint> billy1987: haha i need to publish a disclaimer
[14:08] <andreas_> but i have a problem with laggy window moving
[14:08] <billy1987> yea the largedesktop is what i am worried about
[14:08] <billy1987> i have never heard it say that
[14:08] <andreas_> if i move the window it lags way behind the mouse cursor
[14:08] <LjL> bullethead: it seems to be gnome-desktop3
[14:09] <knifepoint> billy1987: could google the large desktop plugin find out what it does
[14:09] <ZeXx86> andreas_: your drivers arent installed
[14:09] <andreas_> ZeXx86, i'm using nouveau
[14:09] <andreas_> with gallium
[14:09] <andreas_> works pretty snappy but the windows lag bad
[14:10] <andreas_> :(
[14:10] <andreas_> i had problems with the proprietary nvidia driver, it would slow down to a crawl when there were tray icons (empathy for example)
[14:10] <pao> como posso me juntar a comunidade que fala portugues??
[14:11] <LjL> pao: escribe /join #ubuntu-br o /join #ubuntu-pt
[14:11] <ZeXx86> andreas_: I think, nouveau in ubuntu does not provide 3D acceleration
[14:11] <ZeXx86> andreas_: but 2D acceleration should work
[14:11] <andreas_> wel, actually it does ;)
[14:11] <knifepoint> billy1987: Did you enable the cube?
[14:11] <andreas_> seems like my problem is related to vsync being enabled
[14:11] <maddie> Can someone please help me? launcher doesn't remember custom icons!!
[14:11] <andreas_> but i have no clue how to turn it off in nouveau
[14:12] <ZeXx86> andreas_: meybe in xorg.conf but you have to create new one, ubuntu uses automatic configuration
[14:13] <alazyworkaholic> how can I get rid of a big red box with a '1' in the top left corner (using ati). I think I have to use a command-line aticonfig instruction because messing with the aticccle gui it keeps coming back.
[14:13] <maddie> Can someone please help me? launcher doesn't remember custom icons.
[14:13] <maddie> In unity
[14:13] <ark0nza> with 11.04, has anyone had issues with wine application windows disappearing when you try resize / move them?
[14:14] <knifepoint> maddie: I'm having the same problem, I set nvidia settings to be on the launcher and on restart it was only an empty space.
[14:15] <pod88> hello, looking for someone who can help with compiz
[14:15] <maddie> knifepoint for me I just get the default set that comes with a fresh install
[14:15] <kurtul> if nobody in kubuntu room answers, can i ask my kubuntu questions here?
[14:15] <Daniel0108> I have to reinstall my ubuntu, because I messed up my firewall config, even when I flush iptables it's still blocking connections :/ Which version should I install? 10.04, 10.10 or 11.04?
[14:16] <knifepoint> maddie: Oh... that is strange I have the Faenza icon set working on my install.
[14:16] <Daniel0108> I'm running 10.10 now, btw :P
[14:16] <figaccio> hey guys, i'm having a problem regarding hdmi audio with the realtec alc888 codec. Video works fine with HDMI but no audio output... in alsamixer the SPDIF, SPDIF D shows 00 - SPDIF 1 is MM - any suggestions?
[14:16] <knifepoint> maddie: How did you set the icons? Via the appearance app in the setting pane?
[14:16] <maddie> knifepoint that's not the problem - it's the actuall programs I pin to the launcher that get erased upon login
[14:17] <knifepoint> maddie: Oh well yeah thats the same problem as me
[14:17] <maddie> Can someone please help me with my problem?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38463/launcher-doesnt-remember-custom-icons
[14:18] <shiftingcontrol> i m using ubuntu studio 11.04 it is getting hung in 5 mins after login ,how can i report this bug
[14:18] <maddie> knifepoint I've submitted the question 6 time in different forums and have spent a great deal of time here and still haven't gotten an answer.
[14:18] <phix> wow, The new default UI for Ubuntu is terrible
[14:18] <BlouBlou> phix: then don't use it, choose 'classic-desktop' instead
[14:18] <phix> Who's idea was that?  Did they happen to be a left handed person?
[14:19] <phix> BlouBlou: yeah I am using the classic
[14:19] <LjL> !ot | phix
[14:19] <tatzenblogde> i didn't like unity, too... i changed to kde
[14:19] <pod88> phix, run two displays on the unity desktop, hilarity ensues
[14:19] <BlouBlou> tatzenblogde: why? no need to do it, just don't use it
[14:19] <figaccio> so noone an idea about my hdmi issue?
[14:19] <amarelinho_EMO> ...
[14:19] <knifepoint> maddie: Yeah I'm having no luck with a frustrating window focus issue in unity too... seems to me Unity isn't as complete as it should be.
[14:20] <phix> LjL: No it is a support question, how do can you configure unity?
[14:20] <knifepoint> maddie: Sorry I couldn't help mate.
[14:20] <Seqis> knifepoint, I've already switched to Xubuntu because of this Unity garbage and gnome 3 crap, since Gnome 2.x is dying.
[14:20] <phix> LjL: hi btw! *wave*
[14:20] <LjL> phix: yes, *that* is a support question. unfortunately, i don't know the answer (im not using natty), but i don't think it's very configurable in the first place... not sure
[14:20] <maddie> knifepoint, yeah. to be honest I was pretty enthusiastic about it for a while despite all the complaints from the community. This problem is making it hard to learn to love it.
[14:20] <kjxl9> is there a playstation emulator for xubuntu?
[14:21] <vish> phix: you can change the position of the dock
[14:21] <maddie> knifepoint, it's okay thanks anyways (:
[14:21] <vish> cant*'
[14:21] <tatzenblogde> BlouBlou - you're right. thats what like at ubuntu. but canonical presented a new gui and i tried it :-) i didn't like it... there are a few other desktop-envorinments that i didnt like. the best thing at linux is that i can change
[14:21] <phix> vish: yeah I figured that out my self :)
[14:21] <knifepoint> maddie: Yeah not a fan of either really. Although I was using Docky and gnome-do before which is pretty much unity. Same dev on docky and unity too. Just think its like KDE4 wont be good until a few iterations.
[14:21] <phix> vish: and the minimise, maximise, close button change locations when you have the window maximised or in windowed mode
[14:22] <phix> also the default bluetooth manager is a POS.
[14:22] <vish> phix: that you can change according to the theme
[14:22] <phix> Always fails
[14:22] <maddie> knifepoint, do you think I could somehow replace the launcher with docky in unity?
[14:22] <vish> !buttons > phix
[14:23] <pao> does anyone know any backtrack community?
[14:23] <LjL> !backtrack | pao
[14:23] <ikonia> pao: you've been told 3 times - #backtrack-linux is the correct channel
[14:23] <knifepoint> maddie: Nah unity is the window manager. You'd have to go back to using metacity and then install docky. Which isn't really a bad move because it worked without fail in 10.10.
[14:23] <daniel3> What does 11.04 use? Gnome 3 or Unity, or is that the same thing?
[14:23] <LjL> kjxl9: i don't think you'd need specifically one for Xubuntu. i don't know which ones there are around, but i think "apt-cache search playstation" and "apt-cache search psx" will show you some
[14:23] <knifepoint> daniel3: It uses unity
[14:24] <maddie> knifepoint, alright thanks for the advice
[14:24] <knifepoint> daniel3: gnome shell (in gnome 3) is a competing window manager
[14:24] <maddie> knifepoint, hope you get your problem solved too
[14:24] <daniel3> hrm
[14:24] <knifepoint> maddie: i think ill solve it be removing unity ;)
[14:24] <daniel3> Im really regretting upgrading to Natty :\. I just cant seem to get anything working right now.
[14:25] <daniel3> I use Kubuntu, but I can determine if its KDE or Ubuntu that is causing problems. Im having kernel panics, settings dont work, sketchy networking functions.
[14:25] <happolati> after upgrading to 11.04 my mouse is not uncluttered anymore, but it kinda flutters on and of. this raises windows accidentally sometimes.
[14:26] <daniel3> How can I downgrade kernels, the package isnt available in natty.
[14:26] <rozander1> hi guys can someone tell me how i turn on the 11.04 effects
[14:26] <rozander1> i have 11.04 just updated but my desktops the same
[14:28] <daniel3> happolati, is this on a notebook?
[14:28] <shiftingcontrol> If my system hungs how can i report to launchpad ?
[14:29] <LjL> daniel3: you can't without compiling it or installing an old .deb, and neither of those is a good idea
[14:29] <alazyworkaholic> anyone have trouble running LGP's X3 game on 64 bit?
[14:35] <iomega> ciao
[14:35] <iomega> xdcc lista
[14:36] <Fudge> gday any known problems on i850 chipset that would stop someone typing user and pass into a console. apparently when my friend gets prompted for user/pass he cant input anything.
[14:37] <penguin42> Fudge: Is it just completely hung at that point - is there anything he can do?
[14:37] <Chapun> Bruniolos, está aí?
[14:38] <rgr> Fudge: an old thinkpad?
[14:38] <Fudge> penguin42  not sure exactly mate, apparently the keyboard is unresponsive, but i think he can switch back to gnom etc
[14:38] <Fudge> its a del
[14:38] <penguin42> Fudge: A good one to check is whether something like capslock turns the light on/off
[14:38] <vrln> how can I install KDE on Ubuntu 11.04? the old kde-desktop meta package seems to be removed now
[14:38] <rgr> Fudge: you mean his keyboard works outside of the login dialog?
[14:38] <mah454> I have problem with printer in ubuntu-11.04 . i can not publish printer . receive this message "not published see server setting"
[14:38] <aeon-ltd> !kde | vrln
[14:38] <mah454> I have problem with printer in ubuntu-11.04 . i can not publish printer . receive this message "not published see server setting"
[14:39] <joseolos> Bruniolos, está aí?
[14:39] <BlouBlou> English please
[14:39] <ubuntu> Hey
[14:40] <mah454> i can not publish printer . receive this message "not published see server setting"
[14:40] <rgr> Fudge: does Ctl-Alt-f1 work for example?
[14:40] <vrln> aeon-ltd, thanks! I was browsing with software center and it turns out the package is not shown there - worked fine with apt-cache show kde-desktop
[14:40] <Fudge> rgr  yes, penguin42  ive ust suggested that on email
[14:40] <Fudge> unfortunately he is on a mailing list so have to wait reply.
[14:41] <rgr> anyone upgrading to Natty needs their head examining if they need their PC IMO.
[14:41] <vrln> one last question though, if I install the kde-desktop meta-package, will it override the current boot and start animations/login manager?
[14:41] <vrln> at least when I tried the beta it replaced all those
[14:42] <Glowball> Can I set two different shortcuts for the same action? I have a touch thingie for controlling sound, but I also want Fn-up and Fn-down as shortcuts for my volume. Is this possible without overriding the touch controls?
[14:42] <OY1R> Im on Ubuntu 8.04 liveCD any way i can download 10 and make a persistant USB drive of 10.10(while running 8.04 liveCD)
[14:42] <needlez> rgr?? explain... besides a few minor bugs im finding it to be not that bad now that I didn't a clean install, but did an upgrade from a clean install from 10.10 and so far so good, just need to resize some graphics issue that i had prior in 10.10
[14:43] <klingan> Hello everybody! I'm new to Ubuntu, therefor I ask this rookie-question: I have just installed VirtualBox and I want to edit my icon for my Windows7-shortcut to my *.vdi-file. Where are the application-based icons stored?
[14:43] <damadprof> Having problems with no sound in the game Nexuiz, audio is fine apart from this game and I am getting addicted!
[14:44] <LjL> uhm... does apt-cache in natty not search inside package descriptions by default anymore?
[14:44] <wm_eddie> klingan: Right click on the vdi and select roperties.  The icon that you see in the Proprties window is a button. Click on it to customize the icon.
[14:44] <needlez> /usr/share/icons
[14:45] <haroon> due to some issue in NM 11.04 I connected with wireless using wicd network manager and empathy and ubuntu one refuse to connected. Any workaround
[14:45] <klingan> wm_eddie: Yes, I have done that. Now I just need to find the path to where Virtual Box stores its icons.
[14:45] <needlez> klingan: /usr/share/icons/ in there should be gnome and others thats the only folder i know of that has the application icons
[14:45] <klingan> wm_eddie: The shortcut had an icon earlier, but it got removed, somehow.
[14:46] <wm_eddie> Also /usr/share/pixmaps/
[14:46] <klingan> Is there a way to search the entire filesystem (root) for a specific file name?
[14:46] <LjL> klingan: find / -name blah
[14:47] <Kicchiri> How do I turn on seeing hidden files when browsing home folders in... the program doesn't even say its name anymore, let alone any options o.o
[14:47] <haroon> due to some issue in NM 11.04 I connected with wireless using wicd network manager and empathy and ubuntu one refuse to connected. Any workaround
[14:48] <haroon> kicchiri:their is option in menu bar-view menu show hidden files
[14:48] <BitOperator> Hi, when one is shelled into ubuntu server; how can I launch a process in such a way that it continues to run after I log out ?
[14:48] <Kicchiri> Yea, just that I can't find the menu bar ever since I upgraded to 11.4
[14:48] <LjL> !screen > BitOperator
[14:48] <OY1R> anyone ?
[14:48] <BitOperator> Thanks
[14:49] <Kicchiri> Aaaah
[14:49] <haroon> kicchiri : maximize you window
[14:49] <Kicchiri> It's the global thing! Lol wut
[14:49] <LjL> OY1R: what's the question?
[14:49] <haroon> tool bar will appear
[14:49] <bullgard4> OY1R: No.
[14:50] <web_knows> hi, btw
[14:50] <OY1R> ljL Im on Ubuntu 8.04 liveCD any way i can download 10 and make a persistant USB drive of 10.10(while running 8.04 liveCD)
[14:50] <escott> klingan, locate
[14:50] <haroon> due to some issue in NM 11.04 I connected with wireless using wicd network manager and empathy and ubuntu one refuse to connected. Any workaround
[14:50] <Kicchiri> It's there in window mode as well, just at the total top of the screen mixed with unique buttons... Now THAT's an unintuitive change in design... oh well
[14:51] <OY1R> 7J #hamradio
[14:51] <LjL> OY1R: not sure about persistant. you can certainly use netbootin to make a live USB image... but persistant i have my doubts
[14:51] <BitOperator> Awsome works good, thanks LjL.
[14:51] <LjL> unetbootin*
[14:51] <kad_> hey!! how i can clear the recent open images from file and search on ubuntu 11.04 ? thx
[14:51] <Dazzled1> dang it, not enough space left for NN :(
[14:51] <ThinkT510> !usb | OY1R
[14:52] <escott> kad_, you can sorta delete stuff from gnome-activity-journal but that feature is a few months out
[14:52] <LjL> OY1R: although you could always start the live CD in a virtual machine using vbox or something, and do a standard install onto USB from there. i don't see why that shouldn't work
[14:54] <LjL> OY1R: ah, actually the ubottu link seems to say that with usb-creator-gtk (which is available in Hardy), you can choose an arbitrary ISO to install from. so that may work.
[14:54] <Fragy> hi. After upgrading to 11.4 I get: error out of disk on hd0. Press any key.     Why is that? After I press enter it boots up normal.
[14:54] <iiprotocolii> Hey all.
[14:54] <klingan> klingan, locate
[14:54] <klingan> escott: What?  > "klingan, locate"
[14:55] <escott> klingan, `locate filename` to search the filesystem
[14:55] <iiprotocolii> I've tested the compilers (g++ and gcc) and can't compile anything. I receive the following error: "gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory
[14:55] <kad_> escott, i have installed it, but i can't open it , it output errors
[14:55] <Dazzled1> does anyone knows how I can find out what I can/cannot move from my local "File System" ?
[14:55] <klingan> escott: Thanks!
[14:55] <escott> Fragy, do you have two disks
[14:56] <OY1R> LjL having a look at it thanks
[14:56] <Dazzled1> as the Updater complains about a lack of space, but I have swaths available on my other partitions
 I have one pyschical disk.
[14:56] <Dazzled1> (NTFS, though)
[14:56] <klingan> escott: Odd question - is there a way in here to simplify the quoting of others name - So that I don't manually have to enter "e s c o t t" everytime I want to focus you?
[14:56] <hihihi100> how do i change my boot screen? I have plymouth, all the packages, and did http://maketecheasier.com/change-login-and-boot-screen-in-ubuntu-lucid/2010/05/13, but all I see is a blue screen
[14:56] <LjL> !tab | klingan
[14:57] <escott> kad_, yeah its a bit buggy. i saw one a blog posting from one of the zeitgeist developers on gnome blog and he had mockups of zeitgeist history clearing and blacklisting
[14:57] <iiprotocolii> Anyone know what could be causing this: gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory?
[14:57] <LjL> iiprotocolii: do you have build-essential installed?
[14:57] <iiprotocolii> LjL: Yep, I do.
[14:58] <iiprotocolii> LjL: I even removed it and re-installed it. Same result(s).
[14:58] <eags_> H, question about indicator applet for Unity:  I've upgrade 3 laptops and Skype shows up for 2.  In third case it is definitely running but I don't see it in the panel.  I've tried different themes.  Anyone know what the deal is?  I checked if it was in the whitelist and it definitely is.    Anyone have any ideas??
[14:58] <kad_> escott, aha so the recent opening files are kept in the File and Folders forever?
[14:58] <notwok> hey guys. just trying the live cd of the new version.. however clicking "Try Ubuntu" does nothing.. cursor constantly spins. any ideas?
[14:58] <LjL> iiprotocolii: i dunno :\
[14:58] <iiprotocolii> Welp, that sucks. lol
[14:58] <Walex2> On ULTS10 every time I attach a storage device it gets "captured" by DM/LVM2 following a 'udev' driven event into 'upstart'. This seems to be FAQ, but I could not find clear advice on how to disable this. Please suggest what I can do.
[14:58] <mah454> i can not publish printer . receive this message "not published see server setting"
[14:58] <escott> Fragy, one change from 10.10 to 11.04 was in the grub.conf to change `set root(hd0,msdos1)` to `set root(sda,msdos1)` it could be your grub.conf didn't get updated, but your mbr did and grub is warning about the syntax change
[14:59]  * vibhav is ready to help!
[14:59] <escott> kad_, for now at least
[14:59] <escott> mah454, probably a cupsd issue, but i don't know for sure
[14:59] <iiprotocolii> vibhav: Then maybe you can help me with my mindboggling issue...
[15:00] <giulia> hello
 Yes?
 whats the issue?
[15:00] <_Onryo_> 5 core developers have now just proclaimed that the are refusing to work further on Ubuntu. Something happened here on this #. Is there a way to get a log of what was said?
[15:00] <eags_> Anyone know about why skype isn't appearing in the indicator area?
[15:00] <spacebug-> when I add files to my playlist in audacious I get the scroll arrows to scroll the playlist, but when I open an instance of aducaious with a playlist already in it I dont get the scroll arrows. Bug?
[15:00] <socketguru> http://gauravbits575.blogspot.com/2011/04/rename-multiple-files-with-bash-script.html
[15:00] <giulia> could someone tell me how can I avoid these awful icons and make them "normal ? here is the screenshot : http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/999144icones.png
[15:00] <iiprotocolii> vibhav: gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory  <-- getting that when I try to compile. Build-essential is installed.
[15:00] <lgp171188> Hi in Ubuntu 11.04, Network tools utility, ping tool doesn't work at all, though ping command works fine in the terminal. Any clues?
[15:01] <Fragy> escott, no. Only sda's in the config file.
[15:01] <oCean> _Onryo_: log of what?
[15:02] <_Onryo_> oCean Everything that is said on Freenode and this # is logged
[15:02] <oCean> _Onryo_: ubuntu logs are at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/
[15:02] <vibhav> iiprotocolii> try  sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[15:02] <iiprotocolii> vibhav: I've done that. I've also removed it and re-installed it, and nothing.
[15:03] <zeroalpha> i have an ubuntu single sign on account, but i want to change my display name, and i forgot where to change it.
[15:03] <klingan> ubottu, LjL! Thanks!
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+bug/663014
[15:04] <wolfric> is there anyway to get drives plugged in to be mouted by root automatically? (like usb sticks, portable hard drives) without using the uuid
[15:04] <klingan> Is there any way to remove all the "joined", "left" and "timed out" messages in xChat?
[15:04] <lgp171188> vibhav: Just saw that bug, added 'affects me' and subscribed to :) Thanks
[15:04] <dury> hi there channel :)
 try to use an IDE
 you are welcome
[15:04] <coz_> klingan,   Settings /preferences maybe
[15:04] <coz_> klingan,  or go to the #xchat channel :)
[15:05] <KM0201> klingan: that reaolly depends on your irc client, what are you using?
[15:05] <glycan> Hello
[15:05] <klingan> KM0201, coz_ I'm using xChat
[15:05] <oCean> klingan: right-click channel tab > settings
[15:05] <coz_> klingan,  right check under  Settings  / preferences
[15:05] <klingan> KM0201, coz_ And I can't find an option in settings/preferences
[15:05] <iiprotocolii> vibhav: I highly doubt that it will work, considering that cc1 isn't anywhere in the /usr/lib/gcc directory
[15:05] <dhblewis> I now have Ubuntu 11.04. Taking a while to get used to it! However, Whenever I print I get this error message processing file /system/library/colorsync/profiles/sRGB Profile.icc
[15:05] <glycan> How do I make it so I can say "filename" to run it, insterad of "python filename.py"?
[15:05] <KM0201> klingan: right click on the channnel in your channel list, settings/hide join/part
[15:05] <zeroalpha> where can i change my ubuntu single sign on name?
[15:05] <klingan> KM0201, coz_ Found it, THANKS!
[15:06] <zeroalpha> i forget where to do it.
[15:06] <coz_> klingan,  no problem
[15:06] <_Onryo_> oCean these are not the full logs of what was said. Syn3rgy was a top dog over at kernel.org. Seems some body banned him and took it personal. I need to know what was said.
[15:06] <dury> I have created boot in a usb pendrive 11.04... it  boots without any problem...
[15:06] <escott> glycan, you need a shebang #!/usr/bin/python in line one, you need to chmod +x and you need to add to path (skip this and do ./)
[15:07] <RogerU> quit
 you are welcome
[15:07] <OY1R> gona be tight with 8.04 of the CD and vbox with ubuntu 10 or 11 in virtual.all in ram !
[15:09] <dury> the problem is in the installation procedure.... (the box I'm trying to install to it hasn't got cd-rom device)
[15:09] <jiltdil> dury: are you chose he option it from host under devices
[15:09] <dhblewis> anyone able to help me with my printing issue?
[15:10] <dury> and some point in the installation proccess it ask me to put the cdrom
[15:10] <glycan> Huh?
[15:10] <glycan> ./?
[15:10] <dury> when is trying to install the apt proccess
[15:10] <klingan> Who is ubottu? A bot?
[15:10] <escott> glycan, cd /path/to/app; ./appname.py
[15:10] <aeon-ltd> klingan: yes
[15:11] <glycan> Er.
[15:11] <klingan> Haha, awesome. He got me a very accurate answer earlier :)
[15:11] <jiltdil> dur:perhabs you didnot chose the option devices-->cd/dvd devices -->host drive
[15:11] <glycan> Oh
[15:11] <escott> glycan, alternately modify .bashrc to have this: export PATH="$PATH:/path/to/app"
[15:12] <glycan> Oh, that explains stuff
[15:12] <glycan> Never mind, I got it
[15:12] <dury> jiltdill: what's that?
[15:12] <glycan> ./ is run with shebang, right?
[15:12] <jiltdil> dury: oh sorry perhabs i misunderstood your question
[15:12] <jiltdil> dury:please repeat your qustion one more time
[15:12] <dury> jiltdill: right
[15:13] <escott> glycan, #! is shebang
[15:13] <vibhav> !ubottu
[15:13] <vibhav> !hi
[15:14] <vibhav> !Doisuck?
[15:14] <dury> jiltdill: I'm trying to install 11.04 through usb pendrive, right?
[15:14] <oCean> vibhav: stop that please
[15:14] <vibhav> Ok
[15:14] <jiltdil> dury:ok
[15:14] <vibhav> sorry!
[15:14] <eags_> Anyone know about why skype isn't appearing in the indicator area?  Works fine on two other natty upgrades I did.
[15:14] <glycan> Where is python by default on 11.4?
[15:14] <escott> glycan, do `which python` in terminal
[15:14] <jiltdil> dury:then whats the problem
[15:15] <glycan> Okay...
[15:15] <vibhav> whats the problem dury
[15:15] <dury> jiltdill: the box hasn't got cd/dvd reader....
[15:15] <iiprotocolii> Welp, I'll keep researching for the answer to this issue. :P
[15:15] <jiltdil> dury:just go to bios option and under boot enable usb device
[15:15] <vibhav> whats the problem dury? Maybe I can help...
[15:15] <hihihi100> i upgraded to 11.04, i cannot use internet, I can only surf with tor on
[15:16] <hihihi100> help please
[15:16] <jiltdil> dury:then boot
 what is his problem?
[15:16] <dury> jiltdill: that's ok but in the installation procedure it says to put the cd-rom
[15:17] <jiltdil> dury:actually by default you bios has only enabled the cd/dvd boot .just go under boot option in bios and enable usb device also
[15:17] <jiltdil> dury:have you done as i told you
[15:17] <raluxgaza> Hey guys i'm having problems with my wireless after upgrading to Natty. I have an Acer Timeline 4810T and the wireless just doesn't work after suspend
[15:17] <raluxgaza> I didn't have this problem with 10.10
[15:18] <jiltdil> vibhav:he wants to install 11.04 from usb but i think he didnot enabled usb option from bios menu
[15:18] <raluxgaza> I've looked online but haven't found any threads yet
 Broadcom wireless?
[15:18] <raluxgaza> vibhav, yea
[15:18] <dury> jiltdill: I told you the bios usb devicw it's ok,,, because I already boot it from it
 I know about that , just wait
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> hey guys
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> i'm a new convert
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> from win7 to ub
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> i'm loving the UI
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> for 11.04
[15:19] <escott> dury, it doesn't work if you just follow the instructions substituting pendrive for cd?
[15:19] <FloodBot3> Abbas-uB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <raluxgaza> Abbas-uB, welcome
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> why do certain things like updates download so slow?
[15:19] <Abbas-uB> just found my way around pidgin :p
[15:19] <glycan> IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:19] <raluxgaza> Abbas-uB, might be your network connection
[15:19] <oneliner> looks like unity plugin dosent play nice with desktop cube and cube rotation
[15:20] <solsTiCe> Abbas-uB: I agree. I prefer ubuntu unity at the gnome shelm
[15:20] <KNUBBIG> Abbas-uB: maybe because servers are overloaded cause of many updaters
[15:20] <escott> Abbas-uB, its a really busy few days as well with all the new users and upgrades
[15:20] <Abbas-uB> ah
[15:20] <KNUBBIG> oneliner: there may be a way
[15:20] <Abbas-uB> i'll wait then i guess
[15:20] <Abbas-uB> my browsing is perfect
[15:20] <Abbas-uB> and i love how smooth and sweet the browsing/fonts etc are
[15:20] <jiltdil> dury:then no idea, listening first time this type of prob :)
[15:20] <oCean> Abbas-uB: please stop using your 'enter' key that often. And this is for support only, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:20] <KNUBBIG> oneliner: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/compiz-cube-natty/ but use this on your own risk
[15:21] <Abbas-uB> my bad, i'll leave you to work now.
[15:21] <raluxgaza> vibhav, any luck yet?
[15:21] <CrespoZePP> i have the Abbas's problem
[15:21] <CrespoZePP> too
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/601741/ try this
[15:22] <raluxgaza> vibhav, aright thanks, i'll get back to you
 Good luck!
[15:22] <jiltdil> dury:i think you should enable first   boot device in BIOS is  USB drive , perhabs the cd/dvd is of first boot priority check it out
[15:22] <tayyabali> hi all
[15:22] <raluxgaza> vibhav, thanks mate
 does it work?
[15:22] <KNUBBIG> tayyabali: hi
[15:22] <dury> escott: it boots from the usb pendrive.... the thing it's when is trying to install the apt it ask me for cd-rom
[15:23] <raluxgaza> vibhav, still trying it
 when you install them restart
[15:23] <escott> dury, i know but the pendrive should have the cd image, does it get stuck and not let you continue?
[15:23] <jiltdil> dury:are you getting grub screen?
[15:23] <tayyabali> any one has installed GNOME 3
[15:23] <tayyabali> i have problems in Gnome 3
[15:23] <dhblewis> I now have Ubuntu 11.04. Taking a while to get used to it! However, Whenever I print I get this error message processing file /system/library/colorsync/profiles/sRGB Profile.icc	 Anyone know how to fix it?
[15:24] <dury> escott that's right
[15:24] <KNUBBIG> !gnome3 | tayyabali
[15:24] <erez> Hello all, I've upgraded to 11.04, and, while I can log normally to non-unity session, trying to login to "ubuntu" throws a "no valid session found"
[15:24] <KNUBBIG> tayyabali: you may have to go to the gnome irc if none can help you here
[15:24] <dury> no grub screen
[15:24] <erez> Other than that, all works fine
[15:24] <dury> it get stuck
[15:24] <dury> as escott says
[15:25] <tayyabali> how to go to gnome irc ?
[15:25] <escott> dury, its stuck in the install gui right? at what point does it get stuck
[15:25] <escott> tayyabali, /join #gnome
[15:25] <KNUBBIG> tayyabali: I think its /connect irc.gnome.org but not sure, you may have to look on the official gnome site
[15:25] <kassah> is there a way to save my data entered into IRS PDF forms from Document Viewer?
[15:25] <KNUBBIG> oh okay sorry
[15:25] <erez> KNUBBIG: I think it's gimp.org
 does it work?
[15:26] <ManDay> Ubuntu, I need your help with VGASwitcheroo ! Has anyone gotten it to work on an ATI/Intel?
[15:26] <dury> escott: when s
[15:26] <KNUBBIG> erez: gnome irc on gimp.org?
[15:26] <brous-kee> kassah, looked under the file menu for save  ?
[15:26] <preyas> any1 here
[15:26] <erez> KNUBBIG: IIRC, yes
[15:26] <Krishnandu> Hi, how to do upgrade from Alternate ISO??
[15:26] <preyas> need help
[15:26] <raluxgaza> vibhav, it's just finishing up, i'll have to logout and log back in to verify
[15:26] <ikonia> preyas: many people, ask a question
[15:26] <beatpanic> hi people, just dist-upgraded to natty from maverick -- How do I reenable skype icon in the tray area under ubuntu classic? thanks!
[15:26] <preyas> sir my wallpaper is not changing
 ok
[15:26] <dury> escott: when it's to install apt module or packages or whatever
[15:26] <malte> x
[15:26] <kassah> brous-kee, I did... I tried save as... but it doesn't save any of the entered data... just the blank form.
[15:27] <preyas> instead there is a solid color wallpaper is coming
[15:27] <escott> Krishnandu, most upgrades are done off the web not from iso, but you could add the iso to your apt-sources and then try to upgrade
[15:27] <preyas> i am not able to change my wallpaper
[15:27] <raluxgaza> vibhav, testing commences now, <fingers crossed> be back in a bit <hopefully>
[15:27] <dury> escott: sorry I mean when it's trying to install apt module or packages or whatever
[15:27] <preyas> ikonia, help me see my prob
[15:27] <malte> x
 OK
[15:27] <ikonia> preyas: no idea
[15:27] <Krishnandu> escott, Can you please guide me how?? I mean how to add the ISO to apt-sources??
[15:27] <preyas> hi vaibhav me also from india
[15:27] <escott> dury, so its taken all your config info/partitioned folders and then gets stuck
[15:28] <brous-kee> kassah perhaps print it to a file and then you have a file that has the entered contents?
[15:28] <preyas> hey any1 plzz give me the solution of changing tthw wallpaper
[15:28] <dury> escott: that's right
[15:28] <raluxgaza> vibhav, yaaay it works, thanks buddy
[15:28] <eags_> HI, anyone know about why skype isn't appearing in the indicator area?  Works fine on two other natty upgrades I did.   I did try Unity from a ppa in Maverick so maybe I messed up some settings?  any way to reset Unity only configs?
[15:29] <escott> Krishnandu, if you put the disk in and then go to synaptic -> preferences -> software sources you should be able to add a volume
[15:29] <raluxgaza> yup it's working
[15:29] <dury> escott: are there another way to install it?
[15:29] <kassah> brous-kee, sweet.. that at least seems to work... can't further edit fields... but it's better than nothing.. thanks!
[15:29] <beatpanic> eags_, more or less the same situation that I have under ubuntu classic :)
 No problem!
[15:29] <preyas> any1 tell me how to change wallpaper there's a solid wallpaper coming
[15:29] <zus> on 11.04 how can i get to the package manager for adding ppa? dumb question but i havent used ubuntu in a lil bit
[15:29] <Krishnandu> escott, Thanks :)
[15:29] <oCean> preyas: no need to repeat your question that quickly, thanks
[15:29] <preyas> i am not aple to change it through appearance
[15:30] <preyas> so plzz help me bro
[15:30] <eags_> beatpanic: you can't see Skype under ubuntu classic?  That is strange since classic gnome still has the Notification area.
[15:30] <vibhav> Next problem?
[15:30] <jheyes> can anyone recommend a good text mode view of the file system? a built-in shell would be a bonus as well.
[15:30] <kassah> brous-kee, do you think it would be appropriate to file a bug/feature request? Form 1040 is a pretty long, and being able to work on it parts at a time would be greatly beneficial
[15:30] <KNUBBIG> zus: sudo add-apt-repository ?
[15:30] <beatpanic> eags_, I see skype, but not in the tray area
[15:30] <pylix> why does the terminal have trouble with spaces? for instance, it interprets 'a b.gif' as 'a.gif','b.gif' what can i do to fix this behavior?
[15:30] <preyas> sad :(
[15:30] <KNUBBIG> zus: or else sudo update-manager and then settings
[15:30] <eags_> vibhav: do you know why skype isn't appearing in the indicator area?  Works fine on two other natty upgrades I did.   I did try Unity from a ppa in Maverick so maybe I messed up some settings?  any way to reset Unity only configs?
[15:30] <ikonia> oops
[15:31] <zus> KNUBBIG,  thanks,
[15:31] <escott> dury, i've only ever done cd installs, so im not familiar with the usb method. the only thing I could think to do would be to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the repo on your usb keychain
[15:31] <Omega> eags_: Can you put "gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist" in a terminal for me and see what you get?
[15:31] <ikonia> preyas: escape chats a\ b.gif
[15:31] <ikonia> pylix escape chars  a\ b.gif
[15:31] <ikonia> 15:30 < ikonia> oops
[15:31] <preyas> ikonia, what
[15:31] <eags_> ['JavaEmbeddedFrame', 'Mumble', 'Wine', 'Skype', 'hp-systray', 'scp-dbus-service', 'Dropbox']
 "unity --reset"
[15:31] <eags_> Omega: ^
[15:31] <ikonia> preyas: wrong person, sorry
[15:31] <Omega> eags_: Hmm, that seems about right.
[15:32] <eags_> vibhav: --reset will clear my settings or just restart unity?
[15:32] <Omega> Clear settings
 reset settings
[15:32] <eags_> I just ran unity-preferences out of curiosity.  Funny.
[15:32] <brous-kee> kassah, nah, i don think it is a bug, remember it is a viewer not an editor?
[15:33] <Omega> eags_: Do you have skype running though?
[15:33] <eags_> vibhav, Omega: is this a unity setting or an Indicator applet setting?
[15:33] <dios_mio> unity BLOWS
[15:33] <eags_> yeah it is running
[15:33] <eags_> dios_mio: lol.  A lot of people don't agree though.
[15:33] <preyas> there's no scope for me here :(
[15:33] <kassah> brous-kee, okay =) any recommendations on an open-source pdf editor?
 Indicator applet error
[15:34] <zus> heh gound the package manager thanks
[15:34] <eags_> vibhav: yeah, so I haven't reset unit yet because it seems like it isn't about unity, it is about indicator applet.
[15:34] <sudipta> hi alll
[15:34] <brous-kee> kassah not that I can think of the moment, those xml editor perhaps can do it
[15:35] <eags_> vibhav:  gsettings != gconf?  When did that happen?  Is there no gui for browsing these settings or do I just have to know they exist?
[15:35] <Omega> dconf-editor is the gui
[15:35] <praveen> preyas: open it in full size...right click on it and click on "set as a desktop background"
[15:35] <preyas> i tried it in image viewer
[15:35] <KNUBBIG> is there any way in guake to switch through open terminal tabs with, like strg + tab?
[15:35] <preyas> but it wont working
[15:36] <eags_> Omega: not in repo.  ??
[15:36] <beatpanic> ok I more or less solved my problem: I have to tick "Start Skype minimised in the system tray", but by default it doesn't go in the system tray weird
[15:36] <Omega> eags_: It should be, it might even be preinstalled, I'm not sure.
[15:36] <minsik_> hi. i'm using kubuntu 11.04, and i wanna disable windows driver installed using ndlswrapper. how can i do?
[15:37] <praveen> preyas: just open it in your browser...even you don't have to download it..it is very simple process of setting pics
[15:37] <preyas> praveen, i tried that
[15:37] <preyas> it wont work
[15:37] <preyas> i install gnome 3
[15:37] <preyas> and it was working fine
[15:37] <eags_> Omega: it isn't.  And it isn't in apt.  Are you spelling it correctly?
[15:38] <preyas> but then i install some programmes
[15:38] <preyas> then the wallpaper got blank
[15:38] <zerogeedawg> ubuntu rocks
[15:38] <oCean> preyas: gnome 3 is not supported here
[15:38] <alessio_alex> Hello, I've just updated to Ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10. My top & bottom panels disappeared. What do I do?
 uninstall ndlswrapper
[15:38] <preyas> k sorry
[15:38] <dury> tried to install 11.04 from usb stick in a box without cd/dvd Device and it's impossible
[15:39] <escott> alessio_alex, if you dont like unity use the classic interface from the gdm login screen (after you type in your username)
[15:39] <Omega> eags_: the package is called dconf-tools, sorry about that, the tool is called dconf-editor.
[15:39] <sudipta> i installed natty a few days ago and installed nvidia propietary driver with jockey...but the unity session wont start..then i installed the very-small-compared-to-proprietary-driver free mesa driver(3MB) and unity just works well(though not very well)..is this a bug....why didnt the proprietary driver work?Used to work with earlier version of ubuntu
[15:39] <nadar_> hi,
[15:39] <eags_> Omega:  got it.  thanks.
[15:39] <dury> I guess solution it's put cd/dvd reader and install it from there
[15:40] <alessio_alex> escott so how exactly do I achieve this?
[15:40] <alessio_alex> where do I select the classic option?
[15:40] <emasarn> I have a "problem" with Chrome and the dock
[15:40] <moeter> list
[15:40] <shoiab_> Help!!! empathy fail to connect to facebook ???
[15:40] <minsik_> how can i uninstall ndlswrapper and drivers installed using this?
[15:40] <emasarn> Everytime I click on the chrome-icon, a new browser window is opened
[15:40] <nadar_> just a question: when i install ubuntu using windos installer it tells me it wants to install on c: where 210 GB are free. is ubuntu going to create new partition(s) or will it erase c:?
[15:40] <dury> bug usb stick installation procedure
[15:40] <escott> alessio_alex, logout and on your next login choose classic from the dropdown at the bottom of the login screen
[15:40] <emasarn> Can I fix this somehow?
[15:40] <alessio_alex> ok
[15:40] <alessio_alex> thanks, I'll try that
[15:40] <gdea73> Hi, need help badly...
[15:41] <Omega> dury: does it boot?
[15:41] <gdea73> Having really weird keyboard input errors
[15:41] <dury> Omega: yeah it does
[15:41] <minsik_> anyone help me with wi-fi driver.....
[15:41] <gdea73> When I boot up, it goes to GRUB menu. but every key except the arrow keys work
[15:41] <tjiggi_fo> nadar_, it creates a pseudo partition and lets you choose between windows or ubuntu at bootup
[15:41] <escott> Omega, his sources list is pointing to a non-existent cd. so he can't install the software on the usb. i'm not sure if the usb image is wonky or what
[15:41] <gdea73> when I select ubuntu 10.10 (because that's all I can select), it gives me an error...
[15:41] <gartral> gdea73: what kind of keyboard?
[15:42] <soc> hi
[15:42] <soc> i want to migrate the settings of a 10.10's evolution to 11.04
[15:42] <soc> which folders do i have to place where?
[15:42] <nadar_> tjiggi_fo: you mean something like a truecrypt-container?
[15:42] <gartral> gdea73: these generalised terms arent helping. what's the error?
[15:42] <dury> Omega: so?
[15:42] <Omega> dury: How did you make the usb image?
[15:42] <soc> it seems the folder got moved from .evolution to .confg/evolution ...
[15:43] <escott> soc, an export import or settings from the evo menu would be preferred
[15:43] <sudipta> i installed natty a few days ago and installed nvidia propietary driver with jockey...but the unity session wont start..then i installed the very-small-compared-to-proprietary-driver free mesa driver(3MB) and unity just works well(though not very well)..is this a bug....why didnt the proprietary driver work?Used to work with earlier version of ubuntu
[15:43] <soc> escott: can't change that anymore :-/
[15:43] <tjiggi_fo> nadar_, don't know what that is, sorry
[15:43] <soc> escott: or can i point that "import" to the old .evolution folder?
[15:43] <alessio_alex> escott I've just restarted my Ubuntu, I see no such "switch to classical" option
[15:43] <nadar_> tjiggi_fo: nvm, thanks so far :)
[15:43] <escott> soc, you could try, but i would back it up first
[15:43] <alessio_alex> I also locked the screen and logged in again and no such option also
[15:44] <DrHalan> hey, are there plans to create one unified appmenu für appications that have multiple windows? like empathy e.g.
[15:44] <soc> escott: but first, how can i get evolution clean again?
[15:44] <escott> alessio_alex, you logout. type your name in. on the bottom where it says session type you pick the classic type
[15:44] <Omega> sudipta: That's an issue nvidia needs to fix ): you can use the free driver in the meantime :)
[15:44] <erez> Hello all, I've upgraded to 11.04, and, while I can log normally to non-unity session, trying to login to "ubuntu" throws a "no valid session found", any ideas?
[15:44] <soc> even if i delete .evolution and .config/evolution, it keeps placing the data there
[15:44] <gdea73> Anyone willing to help? I get error: out of disk upon boot.
[15:44] <beatpanic> alessio_alex, it's at the bottom, when you select the user
[15:44] <alessio_alex> I don't select the use
[15:44] <soc> i have no idea where the files could be
[15:44] <alessio_alex> I just have one user
[15:45] <alessio_alex> I don't login when starting Ubuntu
[15:45] <Omega> erez: try to boot in safe mode at the login screen, or try Ubuntu (no effects)
[15:45] <soc> i deleted the evolution folders, and started evolution and it still had all the settings and mails
[15:45] <alessio_alex> I don't see any session option also .. when I try to login after screen lock
[15:45] <tjiggi_fo> nadar_, if you have 210GB available I would strongly advise you to create a seperate partition and install ubuntu to that instead of using the windows/wubi alternative
[15:45] <gartral> gdea73: "out of disk"? are you sure you have that right
i have....but is this a bug....because the free driver is very small and does not support well many compiz plugins(wobbly windows for example)
[15:45] <dury> Omega: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download... I've followed the 2 point  Burn your CD or create a USB drive
[15:45] <escott> alessio_alex, you have to logout and login again. sounds like you need to disable auto login from gdmconfig
[15:45] <beatpanic> alessio_alex, you probably have to logout from unity and go back to gdm. sorry but I don't know unity
[15:45] <nadar_> tjiggi_fo: alright. but now i started the installation already
[15:46] <gdea73> gartral: yes. I get three lines of error, I will send them to you in PM
[15:46] <nadar_> can i simply quit it?
[15:46] <Lorthirk> hello guys, i'm having problems. from time to time, window contents are not refreshed (i.e. scrolling inside a page or clicking on a link, and so on). this happens in various apps. I'm running natty with latest fglrx. what can I do?
[15:46] <erez> Omega: I've no problem logging into ubuntu-classic
[15:46] <tjiggi_fo> nadar_, you only need 10 or 20GB
[15:46] <alessio_alex> Jeesus
[15:46] <alessio_alex> ok
[15:46] <gartral> gdea73: no, pastebin them.
[15:46] <alessio_alex> thanks...
[15:46] <Omega> dury: What did you use to create it? What OS?
[15:46] <gdea73> ok...
[15:46] <eags_> Omega, vibhav: if you look around in dconf-editor do you see any relevant keys for indicator applet I might be missing?  I only have the whitelist setting which looks fine.
[15:46] <tjiggi_fo> nadar_, if it hasn't started formatting yet, then yes you can quit
[15:46] <soc> escott: any ideas?
[15:46] <dury> Omega: mmm Ubuntu
[15:46] <Omega> eags_: Try unity --reset
[15:47] <nadar_> tjiggi_fo: i did. thanks for your help, i'll partition now on my own
[15:47] <escott> soc, im not really clear on what it is doing that you don't want happening
 I recommend unity --reset
[15:47] <erez> Omega: but I do want to get into unity
[15:47] <soc> escott: i had a first attempt t move my mails over
i have....but is this a bug....because the free driver is very small and does not support well many compiz plugins(wobbly windows for example)
[15:47] <soc> but then i saw that the folders had changed
[15:47] <shoiab_> how uninstall Unity?
[15:47] <dury> Omega: usb stick and ubuntu
[15:48] <soc> so i want to delete all data evolution currently has and retry, but i can't seem to delete it
[15:48] <soc> it reminds me of that automatic windows restore feature, where it just kept replacing the files you deleted in the system folder :-)
[15:48] <dury> Omega: start disk creator
[15:48] <soc> and i basically want to start with an clean evolution without any data
[15:48] <dury> Omega: in ubuntu
[15:48] <escott> soc, evo is going to create what evo needs to create. to try what you want you would need to close evo. delete the folders. place your data. start evo
[15:49] <Omega> dury: Try installing it with unetbootin (search for unetbootin in software center)
[15:49] <soc> escott: that's what i did
[15:49] <no404> dd command ist cool
[15:49] <Walex2> On ULTS10 every time I attach a storage device it gets "captured" by DM/LVM2 following a 'udev' driven event into 'upstart'. This seems to be FAQ, but I could not find clear advice on how to disable this. Please suggest what I can do.
[15:50] <Omega> erez: Can you boot into safe mode?
[15:50] <soc> escott: i closed evo. deleted all the folders (.evolution/.config/evolution), then started it again because i wanted to verify it. but it STILL had all the mails
[15:50] <kassah> brous-kee, my appologies, aparently Document Viewer does actually save filled out forms... aparently I saved it to another location and diddn't realize it
[15:50] <gdea73> gartral: http://pastebin.com/69iNq0xR
[15:50] <escott> Walex2, probably in /etc/udev/rules.d
[15:50] <soc> and i have no idea why or how evo keeps the mails
[15:50] <erez> Omega: probably
[15:50] <gdea73> and pressing any key does nothing. I have to ctrl + alt + delete or use the reset button.
[15:50] <erez> Omega: what to do there?
[15:50] <Omega> erez: how did you install? did you upgrade? from what?
[15:50] <kassah> brous-kee, thanks for helping me =) sorry for being an idiot
[15:50] <erez> Omega: upgrade from 10.10
[15:51] <erez> Omega: I tried playing with Gnome3 while on 10.10, it might've broken something
[15:51] <gartral> gdea73: i've never seen that before.. what kind of hard disk do you have?
[15:51] <dury> Omega: so I need another new usb stick then?
[15:51] <Omega> erez: Did you remove it before upgrading?
[15:51] <eags_> Omega, vibhav: ok, unity --reset did not work but I did get some interesting info in my console: ** (<unknown>:6574): DEBUG: TrayChild Rejected: dropbox dropbox Dropbox
[15:51] <eags_> ** (<unknown>:6574): DEBUG: TrayChild Rejected: (null) HipChat HipChat
[15:51] <Walex2> escott: thanks, I tried having a look there and it did not seem to help, but I'll try again. I suspect it is something instead to do with the DM kernel module, perhaps.
[15:51] <gdea73> SAMSUNG 1TB
[15:51] <eags_> ** (<unknown>:6574): DEBUG: TrayChild Accepted: (null) skype Skype
[15:51] <Omega> dury: same usb stick, just use unetbootin to make it bootable
[15:51] <gdea73> samsung spinpoint f3 1tb, is all I remember...
[15:52] <gartral> eags_: DONT PASTE HERE.
[15:52] <Omega> dury: delete the one you have and make a new one with unetbootin (using the same iso)
[15:52] <Krishnandu> Hey guys one of my friend installed Windows and lost his ubuntu. Now I suggested him https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows. He performed all the steps and it said "Installation Finished, No Error". But still he's not getting his Ubuntu, even now he lost his windows too. He says, it displays a blank screen with grub version detail and later some info like using tab and minimal bash commands are and later gr
[15:52] <Krishnandu> ub>. When he edit boot and hit enter it says kernel not loaded. So what the problem?? Please help
[15:52] <Omega> !paste | eags_
[15:52] <gartral> !pastebin eags_
[15:52] <gdea73> SMART attributes seemed fine. Though, I will note, I've had several failed Ubuntu installs with errno 5
[15:52] <gdea73> (usually corrected by burning the CD at 4x)
[15:52] <erez> Omega: After upgrading, I reenabled the ppas, and then it installed some gnome3 stuff, but I removed it all
[15:52] <eags_> got it, sorry
[15:52] <Omega> erez: Hmm, that might be causing some trouble
[15:53] <escott> gdea73, can you confirm it is msdos and not gpt partitioned?
[15:53] <gdea73> escott: I am not sure how to do that... the partition was formatted as ext4, that's all I know.
[15:53] <erez> Omega: yes, but everything now runs fine, except if I try to login to "ubuntu"
[15:53] <gartral> gdea73: it looks like your install got hosed. is this a fresh install?
[15:53] <dury> Omega: but there are other important files in the same sub stick :(
[15:53] <gdea73> gartral: Yes, I just installed this morning :P
[15:53] <escott> gdea73, its actually the partitioning scheme. is windows on the same disk?
[15:53] <gdea73> gartral: I'v been having some really odd issues lately, ...
[15:54] <Omega> dury: Oh, can you take them off for a second? (you can put them back later)
[15:54] <gdea73> and no, there are only 2 partitions
[15:54] <pao> i cant join backtrack-linux channel anyone tell me how!!!!
[15:54] <gdea73> they are both ext4, the second one is backup.
[15:54] <Omega> erez: install ppa-purge
[15:54] <Omega> !gnome3 | Omega
[15:54] <gartral> gdea73: do you remember if you told the partitioner too do anything other than the recommended install?
[15:54] <erez> Omega: sure, brb
[15:55] <gartral> who's idea was it too have ubottu PM people. that's really irritating.
[15:55] <gdea73> gartral: Yes, I did configure them manually. I told it to format partition one (then 11.04 which I didn't like), to ext4, and install the bootloader to /dev/sda1 (partition 1).
[15:55] <dury> Omega: minimum space required for 11.04 in the usb stick?
[15:55] <Krishnandu> Hey guys one of my friend installed Windows and lost his ubuntu. Now I suggested him https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows. He performed all the steps and it said "Installation Finished, No Error". But still he's not getting his Ubuntu, even now he lost his windows too. He says, it displays a blank screen with grub version detail and later some info like using tab and minimal bash commands are and later gr
[15:55] <Krishnandu> ub>. When he edit boot and hit enter it says kernel not loaded. So what the problem?? Please help
[15:55] <escott> Krishnandu, it seems some bioses dislike allowing grub access to partitions not marked with the bootable flag so have him set the bootable flag on his ubuntu and windows partitions
[15:55] <eags_> Omega, vibhav: anyway, it looks like Indicator is correctly accepting Skype and rejecting others as per the default whitelist.  But it still isn't visible.
[15:56] <gartral> gdea73: AHHA! there's your mistake. grub should allways be in the MBR of the hdd. IE /dev/sda NOT /dev/sdaX
[15:56] <zomey> does anyone know how to deal with an email error 530 on postfix?
[15:56] <iandi> Hello! Im having issues with windowed fullscreen mode with xbmc in ubuntu, i've tried to get help through the xbmc forum but no one has replied. Here's a link with detailed information about the issue http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p=786924&postcount=3
[15:56] <escott> gdea73, the bootloader goes onto mbr /dev/sda not /dev/sda1
[15:56] <Omega> dury: I think it's ~ 700 MB, but how are you booting right now?
[15:56] <cheater2> hey guys, for some reason my mouse cursor just disappeared! what can i do?
[15:56] <Krishnandu> escott, Didn't got your point, can you please elaborate?? Or any docs link would also do...
[15:56] <ikt> load up a live cd and update-grub?
[15:56] <Omega> eags_: close skype and start it again
[15:56] <zomey> it says stmp server requires authentication but i never set that up?
[15:57] <oCean> zomey: maybe try #postfix channel
[15:57] <gdea73> escott: oh. so I have to reformat using sda
[15:57] <erez> Omega: it can't find anything
[15:57] <gdea73> escott: I thought I could put the boot loader on that partition, I'm not sure exactly why I wanted to but ...
[15:57] <dury> Omega: I will see
[15:57] <erez> I'm thinking, the xsession setting must be broken
[15:58] <gdea73> gartral: also having GRUB issues. my arrow keys don't work. they come up as letters, P, H, W or something.
[15:58] <escott> Krishnandu, use fdisk to set the bootable flag on the windows and ubuntu /boot partition (/ if he doesn't have /boot). there are lots of other details that we would need to know like how many disks he has, i've seen people have problems when they have multiple disks and only install grub on one of the mbr's
[15:58] <Omega> erez: the package is called ppa-purge you can find it in the software center
[15:58] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show any entries. Does this mean that there will be no classrooms in #ubuntu-classroom in May, 2011?
[15:58] <spotter> anone missing the gtk scrollbars in pidgin in natty?
[15:59] <escott> gdea73, you probably don't need to reformat, just use the livecd to chroot in and install grub to the mbr
[15:59] <gdea73> okay, thanks.
[15:59] <spotter> or they are really weird scrollbars now?
[15:59] <gdea73> bye
[15:59] <erez> Omega: I've installed it via apt-get and did sudo ppa-purge gnome3
[15:59] <erez> Omega: it can't find it
[15:59] <zomey> no one is in the #postfix channel
[15:59] <Krishnandu> escott, Ya I asked him to ran fdisk -l , only one HDD, /dev/sda, and he installed grub on MBR, he had 12 partitions on HDD, and he does have /boot
[16:00] <Krishnandu> escott, I can only see boot flag(*) set to /dev/sda1 which is NTFS partition, which I guess is Windows
[16:00] <cajun> i just upgraded and now I don't have my AWN launcher or the new one. Can someone help me fix this or direct me?  Thanks in advance
[16:00] <escott> Krishnandu, so add the boot flag to the /boot partition
[16:01] <puneet> is there a way to test gnome 3 without breaking unity
[16:01] <Guest39408> guys, i downloaded this app in teh .tar.gz format. how do i 'install' it into my ubuntu 11.04?
[16:01] <eags_> Omega, vibhav: restarting skype didn't work.  Here is my console output since resetting unity.  Notice that Skype is accepted twice, the second time is when I restarted it so it appears to be working but maybe some of this other output is interesting:  https://gist.github.com/950552
[16:01] <Krishnandu> escott, Thanks, lemme google it out about how to set boot flag
[16:02] <erez> Omega, thanks, I can see you guys are bushed, I'll inquire once the flood subsides
[16:02] <olx69> are there any known problems with update to 11.04?
[16:02] <sudipta> i installed natty a few days ago and installed nvidia propietary driver with jockey...but the unity session wont start..then i installed the very-small-compared-to-proprietary-driver free mesa driver(3MB) and unity just works well(though not very well)..is this a bug....why didnt the proprietary driver work?Used to work with earlier version of ubuntu
[16:02] <escott> Krishnandu, sudo fdisk /dev/sda then "a" "number of partition" "w"
[16:02] <billy1987> Is there a way to diable the desktop wall on 11.04 with out crashing my os?
[16:02] <waKKu> hi folks.. quick help, which package contains "runlevel" binary?
[16:02] <waKKu> dpkg -S /sbin/runlevel
[16:02] <Omega> erez: try sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[16:02] <cajun> Ubuntu told me that I don't have hardware compatible with Unity...is the new launcher only available for Unity?
[16:03] <Krishnandu> escott, Number of partition is the ID of partition??
[16:03] <escott> Krishnandu, the number of the partition you want to set bootable
[16:03] <glycan> Is there a shell command to get IP?
[16:03] <escott> glycan, ifconfig
[16:03] <glycan> Thanks
[16:03] <Gl0ck> hey guys,if anyone knows,  wts the name of  wx.ListCtrl widget in QT?
[16:04] <Krishnandu> escott, means something like this sudo fdisk /dev/sda "a" /dev/sda9 "w" assuming /dev/sda9 is /boot
[16:04] <waKKu> hi folks.. quick help, which package contains "runlevel" binary? dpkg -S `which runlevel`
[16:04] <glycan> And what does all that stuff mean?
[16:04] <escott> Krishnandu, "a" it will ask the partition number "9" and then you write the changes with "w"
[16:04] <praveen> puneet: go here -http://www.gnome3.org/tryit.html and try out usb image writer
[16:04] <billy1987> is there a way to disable the desktop wall with out crashing my os on unubtu 11.04
[16:05] <chibihogoshino> how do i remove plymouth
[16:05] <iandi> Anyone got a clue why i cant seem to get windowed fullscreen in xbmc? More details here: http://forum.xbmc.org/forumdisplay.php?f=52
[16:05] <Krishnandu> escott, Ahh ok, got it..!! Thanks :)
[16:06] <Krishnandu> escott, Thanks a lot, lemme make him try this :)
[16:07] <praveen> billy1987: i think you are looking for this--http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10733442#post10733442
[16:07] <billy1987> thank you
[16:07] <praveen> my pleasure!!!
[16:07] <glycan> How do I do the wobbely windows again?
[16:07] <dios_mio> !ccsm | glycan
[16:07] <escott> glycan, install ccsm. and you just wanted the inet addr
[16:08] <billy1987> I just want to be able to use the desktop cube
[16:08] <adwaitneo> Installed Ubuntu 11.04
[16:08] <erez> Omega: Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: gnome3-team gnome3
[16:08] <billy1987> but when i disable the wall it tells me i need it for unity and then it goes crazy
[16:09] <glycan> Yes
[16:09] <glycan> Thanks
[16:09] <Omega> iandi: Did it suddenly stop working?
[16:10] <Omega> erez: are you using that ppa though?
[16:10] <Omega> erez: try sudo ppa-purge -p gnome3
[16:10] <erez> Omega: no, I manually removed it from repositories and downgraded all the packages that were left on local or absolute in synaptic
[16:11] <Guest22328> i have just recently upgrade my ubuntu to the latest version and I detest it, how do i change it back to maverick meerkat?
[16:11] <erez> Omega: same thing
[16:12] <iandi> Omega: no this started to occur after the installation of xbmc 11.04
[16:12] <rumpe1> Guest22043, install maverick
[16:12] <glycan> Huh?
[16:12] <adwaitneo> I'm going for dinner !
[16:12] <adwaitneo> catch you guys later
[16:12] <Guest22328> rumpel: i have the latest version installed
[16:12] <Guest22328> rumpel: how do I change it back?
[16:12] <Guest22328> rumpel: is there a command i can run?
[16:12] <rumpe1> Guest22043, there is no downgrade-option
[16:13] <Guest22328> rumpel: there's no command I can run?
[16:13] <Guest22328> rumpel: i don't want to lose all of my files and such
[16:13] <angelsl> hi
[16:13] <ortsvorsteher> !downgrade | Guest22328
[16:13] <rumpe1> Guest22043, nope... except you use some fancy filesystem, which i doubt
[16:13] <angelsl> after upgrading my netbook to 11.04, i'm unable to get video
[16:13] <angelsl> switching to tty1-6 still gives me the normal prompt though
[16:13] <Guest22328> angelsl: yes, the 11.04 is giving a lot of problems
[16:14] <glycan> I still don't have it
[16:14] <angelsl> i see no peculiar messages in dmesg
[16:14] <angelsl> restarting gdm didn't help
[16:14] <beta___> does somebody here has knowledge how to compile a kernel?
[16:14] <Guest22328> ortsvorsteher: what do you recommend?
[16:14] <rumpe1> Guest22043, all your files are usually in /home... back it up.
[16:14] <Omega> iandi: Try choosing ubuntu classic at login and try it there, if it works there it's a unity bug and should be reported
[16:14] <Guest22328> rumpel: sorry but how
[16:14] <rumpe1> !Backup | Guest22043
[16:15] <oCean> !kernel > beta___
[16:15] <ortsvorsteher> Guest22328, i would make an backup of my data and install the older version new
[16:15] <Omega> Guest22328: why do you want to downgrade?
[16:15] <KNUBBIG> !info tracker
[16:15] <Guest22328> omega: i don't like the set up of the new verision
[16:15] <rumpe1> Guest22043, and you really shouldnt change anything on your system without backup.. except your data is worthless
[16:15] <HelloWorld321> How secure is Ubuntu One?  Can you Encrypt it?  Does storing data in cloud computing violate a non-disclosure agreement?
[16:15] <Guest22328> omega: the menu bar is on the left side, for example
[16:15] <merlin2049er> hey,  i upgraded to 11.04, but it deleted my google gadgets
[16:16] <merlin2049er> is that available for 11.04?
[16:16] <Omega> Guest22328: Choose ubuntu classic at login
[16:16] <beta___> @ubottu, I want to use the latest kernel on 10.04
[16:16] <Guest22328> omega: let me try that
[16:16] <angelsl> hi Omega
[16:16] <angelsl> pfft
[16:16] <Omega> hi angelsl O:
[16:16] <KNUBBIG> exit
[16:16] <KNUBBIG> damn
[16:16] <beta___> because I don't like the new ubuntu 11.04, want to wait till 11.10 comes out..
[16:16] <angelsl> help me! no video after updating to 11.04
[16:16] <escott> HelloWorld321, hopefully better than dropbox, yes, talk with your lawyer
[16:16] <iandi> Omega: it works in classic mode (2d) not in Unity mode.. Pure fullscreen works but not windowed fullscreen, its like there's a hidden border at the bottom of the screen preventing it
[16:16] <sam_00393948> Does anyone know if upgrading to 11.04 is safe?
[16:17] <rumpe1> sam_00393948, upgrade is never "safe"
[16:17] <Omega> angelsl: what hardware?
[16:17] <angelsl> uhm
[16:17] <merlin2049er> it's safe but you'll loose some packages
[16:17] <angelsl> hmmm
[16:17] <merlin2049er> ie google gadgets
[16:17] <sam_00393948> so   ?
[16:17] <merlin2049er> and you'll have to get your own video driver
[16:17] <sam_00393948> should i do it?  i did it before and it failed
[16:17] <Omega> angelsl: I mean what graphics card
[16:17] <Tweaky> i cant even get past the part where it sets the software channels for upgrade D:
[16:17] <oCean> beta___: so why do you need the latest kernel?
[16:18] <Adik> siema
[16:18] <oCean> !pl | Adik
[16:18] <beta___> it fixes my wireless problems, and also some fixes to my Optimus supported laptop
[16:18] <angelsl> Omega: GMA500
[16:18] <angelsl> it's an asus eeepc 1101HA
[16:18] <Adik> helo
[16:18] <rumpe1> sam_00393948, usually upgrading should work... but you can never be sure. That's something you have to decide.
[16:18] <tgies> did some recent upgrade break ecryptfs automount for anyone else
[16:18] <sam_00393948> rumpel   ok   how should i do it?   thru terminal?
[16:19] <Omega> angelsl: no video at all?
[16:19] <oCean> beta___: you could try as per the instructions in the message ubottu send you, but I won't recommend it if you don't exactly know what you are doing
[16:19] <rumpe1> sam_00393948, i recommend a fresh install via usb-stick
[16:19] <angelsl> Omega: switching to tty1 gets me a console
[16:19] <angelsl> restarting gdm didn't help
[16:19] <angelsl> tty7 still shows the bootup messages
[16:19] <beta___> Oke, thanks for the help :)
[16:19] <sam_00393948> ok...
[16:19] <astra05> j
[16:19] <angelsl> but it's ... 'frozen'
[16:19] <angelsl> i can't scroll
[16:19] <sam_00393948> i think ill just try thru terminal first
[16:20] <beta___> I will try Ubuntu 11.04, see that gnome2 is still there...
[16:20] <Omega> angelsl: you don't see anything?
[16:20] <angelsl> Omega: tty7 still shows the bootup messages
[16:20] <angelsl> but i can't scroll
[16:20] <oCean> beta___: you can choose 'classic' login, in 11.10 there won't be such an option
[16:20] <angelsl> and there's no cursor either
[16:20] <Omega> angelsl: fresh install?
[16:20] <angelsl> Update from 10.10
[16:20] <beta___> An other question: I've used emerald as my decoration manager, is it posible to get it working in 11.04?
[16:21] <tgies> yeah ecryptfs-utils 83-0ubuntu3.1 broke it
[16:21] <tgies> hmm
[16:21] <Omega> angelsl: did you have anything special installed in 10.10?
[16:21] <huggybeers> I just upgraded to 10.04 and now I have no sung
[16:21] <Omega> angelsl: for example gnome3?
[16:21] <huggybeers> sound
[16:21] <angelsl> Omega: nope. I installed the eeepc kernel extension though
[16:22] <Omega> angelsl: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:22] <Omega> from a tty
[16:22] <praveen> sam_00393948: i think you must upgrade by alternate iso torrent...it is much faster
[16:23] <huggybeers> how do I get the sound back in 10.04
[16:23] <angelsl> Omega: nothing changed
[16:23] <Omega> angelsl: it didn't say anything?
[16:23] <angelsl> "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[16:23] <Tweaky> whats the prefered image pastebin?
[16:23] <Dasj_Dasj> I downloaded live cd of natty . Can i updrade using it?
[16:24] <ross_> ok - i was the one talking about the problems with 11.04
[16:24] <sakuramboo> okay, this is weird, ive been using unity for the past two days and then i just started my computer today and it told me that i dont have the right hardware to run unity, how can that be?
[16:24] <stanisav> i cannot make a usb startup disk in 11.04, i get Checksums do not match.  Retry?, and md5 hash of the iso file is correct
[16:24] <xangua> Dasj_Dasj: if you use maverick, yes
[16:24] <Dasj_Dasj> xangua:  yes i do. mine is 10.10
[16:24] <xangua> stanisav: tried with Unetbootin instead¿
[16:25] <Omega> angelsl: Seems like x doesn't start
[16:25] <Dasj_Dasj> xangua:  how come i do that
[16:25] <Dasj_Dasj> !upgrade
[16:25] <mgibson> I'm getting "Hash Sum mismatch" on Packages.gz when trying to upgrade to 11.04.  Ideas?
[16:25] <eags_> Omega, figured it out.  It is actually a dual head bug.
[16:25] <Adik> do you speake polish?
[16:26] <ross_> i've been having problems with images don't displaying correctly in the 11.04
[16:26] <oCean> !pl | Adik
[16:26] <Dasj_Dasj> any way to do it
[16:26] <Omega> angelsl: ps ax | grep "X"
[16:26] <Omega> run that in a tty
[16:26] <angelsl> Omega: yup. nothing.
[16:26] <angelsl> which Xorg log should I look at?
[16:26] <Omega> eags_: Did you fix it?
[16:27] <eags_> Omega: I noticed when I showed all my desktops that I could actually see the notification icons way up in the middle of nowhere by themselves.   Also notification applets don't get copied to the other head
[16:27] <eags_> Omega: yeah but just by working around it.
[16:27] <Omega> angelsl: modprobe psb
[16:27] <coachj> can someone tell me or direct me to what I need to run the unity desktop please?
[16:27] <Omega> run that angelsl
[16:28] <angelsl> Omega: "module psb not found"
[16:28] <eags_> Omega: I just arranged my screens so the top of my main monitor is aligned with the top of my second monitor.  Before I had the top of my second, larger monitor higher than my main monitor creating some empty space above the main monitor.  That is where the notification applets are being drawn.
[16:28] <angelsl> Omega: apparantly
[16:29] <mman> just installed ubuntu 11.04 and a lot of icons, pictures and so on have like a pink tone. dont know how to fix the colors
[16:29] <ayrton> were are desktop effects in ubuntu 11.04
[16:29] <escott> sakuramboo, check your glxinfo
[16:29] <angelsl> "module ABI major version (8) doesn't match the server's version (10)"
[16:29] <Omega> coachj: You need a graphics card that has 3d support
[16:29] <angelsl> and then proceeds to unlod psb
[16:29] <handygandy> The one thing I hate about linux is the file browsers. Can someone suggest something close to Explorer?
[16:29] <Dasj_Dasj> I downloaded live cd of natty . Can i updrade using it? i am on 10.10
[16:29] <xangua> ccsm | ayrton
[16:29] <eags_> Omega: super hacky solution but whatever.  Anyway looks like Ubuntu is putting minimal effort into supporting older apps.  Especially given the whole whitelist thing.  Are all other DE on board with indicator as the way forward?  Are KDE and gnome apps going to support this?
[16:29] <peter_felching> Hi. Is it possible to use unity's panel with integrated close, maximize etc. in classic mode?
[16:30] <Froq> so I got a question, what is the write speed that a CD can impliment?
[16:30] <coachj> Omega: Ok I have an ati 7500 old but 3d used to work on where do i get driver?
[16:30] <angelsl> unload*
[16:30] <Acid190> Still cannot get this chat applet to load.
[16:30] <xangua> !ccsm | ayrton
[16:30] <Acid190> http://pastebin.com/zntiBqn1
[16:30] <xangua> Dasj_Dasj: yes
[16:30] <Tweaky> hi. having a problem upgrading, this is what i get here -> http://img705.imageshack.us/i/screenshotdvj.png/
[16:30] <stanisav> xangua: will try now
[16:30] <Dasj_Dasj> xangua:  but how
[16:30] <mman> handygandy, nautilus
[16:30] <Superstar> How do I add another panel in Ubuntu 11.04?
[16:31] <xangua> Dasj_Dasj: burn it and put the cd
[16:31] <sakuramboo> escott: i have direct rendering
[16:31] <puneet> is there a way to test gnome 3 without breaking unity
[16:31] <xangua> Superstar: select 'classic desktop' on the log in screen
[16:31] <Dasj_Dasj> xangua:  should i boot it
[16:31] <mman> Superstar, no idea thats why i changed to gnome again
[16:31] <xangua> puneet: no
[16:31] <Superstar> mman but then I would lose unity
[16:31] <Omega> angelsl: do you know what graphics driver you're using?
[16:31] <escott> sakuramboo, does it look right for your hardware. its possible to install things that can break glx
[16:32] <handygandy> I use KDE, I don't think nautilus works well with KDE. Besides from what I remember of nautilus, I found it didn't really come cl;ose to Explorer.
[16:32] <angelsl> Omega: i forgot
[16:32] <Omega> PSB?
[16:32] <Superstar> I've spent 6 weeks getting used to it
[16:32] <dios_mio> Tweaky, upload your screenshot to a real pic host site
[16:32] <eags_> Omega: anyway, thanks for your help.  I'll file a bug.
[16:32] <angelsl> Omega: hold on
[16:32] <mman> Superstar, i know.. but that its the problem of unity...
[16:32] <Tweaky> dios_mio: such as
[16:32] <dios_mio> Tweaky, imgur or whatever
[16:33] <naveed> Hi every one
[16:33] <puneet> handygandy: explorer sucks
[16:33] <Superstar> mman hm ok thanks mate
[16:33] <angelsl> Omega: does uvesafb count?
[16:33] <xangua> drop that attitude dios_mio
[16:33] <mman> ;)
[16:33] <ayrton> cant install ccsm cause it has unmet dependences
[16:33] <naveed> I am new in Xchat
[16:33] <peter_felching> Is it possible to use unity's panel with integrated close, maximize etc. in classic mode?
[16:33] <xangua> handygandy: perhaps you want to ask on #kubuntu or a related kde channel ;)
[16:33] <Froq> naveed: do you just use 'sudo apt-get install xchat'?
[16:33] <oneliner> what is the command to restart the unity pluging? the top bar is getting stuck to black
[16:33] <naveed> Froq yes
[16:33] <linusasus6> hi by restarting ubuntu is not in grub menu but when I do update-grub he find it but that not fixing how to make reapear it please
[16:33] <Omega> angelsl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/#Installation%20CD%20with%20PSB%20drivers
[16:33] <kyo> Got a problem doing an update (apt-get update) it is stuck at "Obj http://es.archive.ubuntu.com natty/universe Translation-es" , I use the new ubuntu 11.04
[16:33] <Froq> naveed: thz!!!
[16:33] <Omega> Follow those isntructions
[16:34] <Dasj_Dasj> okay if i upgrade will all installed softs and apps will be there or not
[16:34] <Tweaky> http://i.imgur.com/26m85.png
[16:34] <xangua> Dasj_Dasj: yes
[16:34] <naveed> Froq:
[16:34] <praveen> Dasj_Dasj:http://angger-kaboel.net/linux/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-with-or-without-an-internet-connection/
[16:34] <Dasj_Dasj> xangua:  thanks
[16:34] <naveed> Farq:  I heard about IRC, so today i join it
[16:35] <Omega> peter_felching: not that I'm aware of ):
[16:35] <peter_felching> Omega, thanks.
[16:35] <naveed> Froq: m you are free to guide me about IRC
[16:35] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello
[16:35] <sakuramboo> escott: i found out the problem, i have a separate partition for /tmp, when i upgraded, ubuntu put /tmp on the / partition, last night, i added /tmp to /etc/fstab, but in doing so, it now couldnt load unity, i commented out the line, rebooted and now it works
[16:35] <Dasj_Dasj> praveen:  thanks
[16:35] <sakuramboo> does anyone know if unity requires /tmp to be executable to run?
[16:35] <Froq> naveed: what? I dont' understand what you jsut said?
[16:35] <Sidewinder1> Hey U_C
[16:36] <kyo> Got a problem doing an update (apt-get update) it is stuck at "Obj http://es.archive.ubuntu.com natty/universe Translation-es" , I use the new ubuntu 11.04
[16:36] <kyo> it happen to someone else here?
[16:36] <Tweaky> anyone able to help me upgrade? im getting an error. http://i.imgur.com/26m85.png
[16:36] <naveed> Froq: I said, what is the purpose of IRC  for normal user
[16:36] <mman> just installed ubuntu 11.04 and a lot of icons, pictures and so on have like a pink tone. dont know how to fix the colors. any idea?
[16:37] <naveed> Froq: and why people use it?
[16:37] <ayrton> i cant install ccsm cause of unmet dependences , compizconf-settings manager and python-compizconfig, but there both installed
[16:37] <ayrton> any help?
[16:37] <Froq> naveed: oo got ya!  it is available for you to get help on anything quickly.  You can often log onto here to discuss your problem.  IRC is rooted in that in the beginning of ubuntu days, a lot of collaboration occurred in IRC channels, though that is not as necessary anymore with GIT, etc.
[16:37] <Omega> sakuramboo: it shouldn't afaik
[16:37] <Dasj_Dasj> how to adjust icons according to your preference on natty sidebar
[16:38] <Sidewinder1> naveed, Perhaps because answers come faster than the forums.
[16:38] <Froq> naveed: I appreciate IRC because it is a chat room that is specific to a topic, and I can get deeper into the community quicker.  I learn so much by reading about a persons questions, and then watching what other members respond with (how they help)
[16:38] <hartmut> anybody using truecrypt with ubuntu classic and also not getting the application menu?
[16:38] <mman> Dasj_Dasj, right click on them
[16:38] <naveed> Froq  : thanks man
[16:39] <naveed> SideWinder1.. hmm i got your point boss
[16:39] <Sidewinder1> naveed, Ask and ye shall receive.
[16:39] <Omega> Tweaky: what version are you on?
[16:40] <Froq> naveed: maybe join the ubuntu-beginner channel also if you are new to ubuntu.
[16:40] <Froq> naveed: lots of new questions on there also
[16:40] <sakuramboo> okay, well, unfortunately, i dont have time right now to track down this bug, when i get some time, ill write up a blog post about it
[16:40] <naveed> sideWinder1 :) okay
[16:40] <linusasus6> please how to put ubuntu in the list of grub, when I do update-grub he found it
[16:40] <Tweaky> Omega: 10.04
[16:40] <sakuramboo> i just find it weird that /tmp has to be part of the / partition
[16:40] <naveed> Froq: ) hmm i m not new in ubuntu actually :) but i need to work on my basic
[16:41] <Froq> under unity, where do I get to turn on screen sharing?
[16:41] <naveed> Froq: how i can join Ubuntu_begginer channel
[16:41] <Froq> naveed: got ya!  haha, I am new.  and you using xchat
[16:41] <Froq> naveed: ?
[16:41] <Dasj_Dasj> I want to rearrange
[16:41] <Mugen> hi all
[16:42] <Mugen> somebody knows feedingbottle?
[16:42] <mofu> Screensaver locking up since I upgraded to 11.04 ,  was locking up on GLText screen saver in in random screensaver mode,  switched to a different saver under single mode to see if that helps
[16:42] <naveed> Froq .. as you were saying join Ubuntu begginer channel
[16:42] <Omega> naveed: /join #ubuntu-beginners
[16:42] <stefg> !grub | linusasus6
[16:43] <naveed> Omega :) Thanks dude ,, I m there too:)
[16:43] <antonyg> exit
[16:43] <naveed> Forq :) i m on Ubuntu Beginers
[16:43] <coachj> how do i install ed video drivers
[16:43] <coachj> 3d
[16:44] <Dedego> Can someone help me solve this problem? > http://paste.ubuntu.com/601769/
[16:44] <Omega> Tweaky: Try asking on the forums ): I don't knowhow to solve that one
[16:44] <Omega> !forums | Tweaky
[16:44] <ikonia> Dedego: install the build-essential package
[16:44] <Sidewinder1> Omega: I just learned something; I didn't know there was a beginners channel; what a dummy I am..
[16:44] <linusasus6> stefg my grub is ok is ubuntu doesnt apear in the list http://pastebin.com/cEkpFdaM
[16:44] <niadh> I am trying to set up an ubuntu server using a wireless connection, but I can't seem to get static ip working
[16:44] <escott> Dedego, install build-essentials and gcc
[16:44] <Sidewinder1> Omega: Thanx
[16:44] <Omega> Sidewinder1: You're not a dummy! :)
[16:45] <ikonia> escott: build-essential will install gcc
[16:45] <Tweaky> omega: thank you
[16:45] <Sidewinder1> Omega: Tell that to my wife :-)
[16:45] <shigutso> how can I make unity bar stay animating urgent until I click it?
[16:45] <naveed> any body use trash-cli utility ??
[16:45] <hnsz> what program creates the status message for motd at login on ubuntu server?
[16:46] <ikonia> hnsz: it's just a text file
[16:46] <ayrton> ok guys i cant install ccsm
[16:46] <Dedego> escott: look http://paste.ubuntu.com/601770/
[16:46] <hnsz> ikonia: Yes but it gets updates
[16:46] <ikonia> hnsz: such as ?
[16:46] <hnsz> ikonia: With info abouit how many packages are upgradable and if i need to reboot
[16:46] <stefg> linusasus6: so you have a maverick (10.10) install, and that is controlling grub2, right?
[16:47] <hnsz> ikonia: Also recourde usage
[16:47] <ikonia> hnsz: record usage ?
[16:47] <escott> Dedego, it sure seems to think you dont have gcc installed so confirm that it is there
[16:47] <hnsz> ikonia: recourse
[16:47] <ikonia> recourse ?
[16:47] <hnsz> ikonia: sorry :) resource
[16:47] <hnsz> ikonia: like cpu mem etc
[16:47] <trailoryo> Hey guys I got a problem with watching 720p/1080pHD (in any player). It runs, but not even close to smooth. Here's "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601700/
[16:47] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, can the top bar be themed?
[16:48] <Castbound> yo!, hope you are keeping well. My laptop's multimedia keys stopped working, specially sound is what I'm worried about, what's the package that needs to be installed/reinstalled ?
[16:48] <linusasus6> stefg I got a linux mint that controlled grub2 ubuntu is on sdc4
[16:48] <ikonia> hnsz: can you pastebin me what you see in your motd when you login ?
[16:48] <hnsz> ikonia: Can I pm an example?
[16:48] <Stameni> does anybody know how i get acces to programs that are gonne in system tray [ubuntu 11.04] ? ? ?
[16:48] <tansell-laptop> I'm having problems with my intel 4965 under lucid, it just won't correct to my wireless network, I get "wlan0: authenticate with bc:05:43:a4:af:47" messages
[16:48] <Stameni> how do i acces system tray
[16:48] <ikonia> hnsz: pastebin it, lets see as most of that is controlled from parameter variables within the motd
[16:48] <ayrton> how do i install dependences so i can install ccsm
[16:48] <hnsz> ikonia: Im on terminal only, can pastebin it
[16:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, can the top bar be themed?
[16:48] <ikonia> !pastebinit
[16:48] <tansell-laptop> I've tried playing disabling 802.11n and a few other things but nothing seems to work
[16:48] <xangua> Stameni: there is no system tray in unity, try with 'classic desctop'
[16:48] <hnsz> ikonia: I suppose I can but its a lot of effort to write a script for that :)
[16:49] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, you can configure that in ccsm.
[16:49] <Dedego> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601771/
[16:49] <ikonia> hnsz: it's not writing a script - just install the tool "pastebinit"
[16:49] <Ultimate_Chaos> can it?
[16:49] <_joey> how do I upgrade to natty from shell?
[16:49] <hnsz> ikonia: nice
[16:49] <jo-erlend_> xangua, that's not true. It's just configured not to display icons except predefined ones.
[16:49] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh stupid me
[16:49] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, can the top bar be themed? Ubuntu 11.04 Unity
[16:49] <escott> Dedego, and it is in your path? `which gcc` returns /usr/bin/gcc?
[16:49] <xangua> jo-erlend_:  then how about tell me that to me, tell to Stameni how to
[16:50] <xangua> instead of
[16:50] <Stameni> jo-erlend: how ?
[16:50] <coz_> Ultimate_Chaos,   I dont think so,, certainly not at this point
[16:50] <Dedego> escott: yeah
[16:50] <coz_> Ultimate_Chaos,  if so I am unaware of it
[16:50] <ayrton> can any1 help me with my ccsm error?
[16:50] <Stameni> jo-erlend_: how ?
[16:50] <xangua> Ultimate_Chaos: it can
[16:50] <escott> Dedego, sounds like a problem with that configure script
[16:50] <coz_> Ultimate_Chaos,   other than changeing the theme in appearances
[16:50] <Dedego> escott: giving reboot resolves?
[16:51] <escott> Dedego, no idea, you can always try
[16:51] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, so no effects? Ubuntu 11.04 Unity
[16:51] <Dedego> escott: ok
[16:51] <trailoryo> anyone know how to fix soundcard problem with spotify through Wine?
[16:51] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, look in ccsm. You'll find it. Or in dconf-editor. It is possible.
[16:51] <coachj> can somone remind me what to type in terminal to test 3d (the wheels) thingy?
[16:51] <Froq> hi
[16:51] <coz_> Ultimate_Chaos,  if you go  to gnome-appearance-properties you can change the system theme which should change the upper panel/dock
[16:52] <escott> tansell-laptop, is bc05 your mac address or that of the router
[16:52] <[thor]> trailoryo: go to #winehq with that question
[16:52] <trailoryo> Thanks, thor
[16:52] <tansell-laptop> routers
[16:52] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, can you custom code to use a ppa with vioding license? Ubuntu 11.04 Unity
[16:53] <escott> tansell-laptop, sounds like you need to specify a wep or wpa2 password
[16:53] <bmfx1> my pc is so hot :(
[16:53] <coz_> bmfx1,  I assume you mean heat hot ...yes?
[16:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay
[16:53] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, is that a bug in unity and it will be fixed or it will stay forever like that ?
[16:53] <Spikes> guys, what could be a problem: Sometimes my ubuntu 10.10 server loses network connection, but after 1-3 minutes it's again online
[16:54] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello, can you access gnome3 sourc code anywhere?
[16:54] <Guest70597> I'm trying to install a mod but cant figure it out,   I'm using Ubuntu
[16:54] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, it's not a bug. We don't like the abuse of notification area and want to change that behaviour.
[16:54] <xangua> !gnome3 |  Ultimate_Chaos
[16:54] <bmfx1> temperatue of pc
[16:54] <ikonia> Ultimate_Chaos: it's fully available from the gnome repos
[16:54] <sarthor> HI, i was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, and machine restarted or may be Internet went, i was sleeping at that time, Now, I can not boot linux, i am on the consol selecting M for manual, but and I manuall assigned IP and i can access the internet , how to upgrade,
[16:54] <xangua> Ultimate_Chaos: from gnome's web¿
[16:54] <bmfx1> sorry about my english
[16:54] <coz_> Ultimate_Chaos,  probably from the PPA for gnome3  or gnomeshell
[16:54] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, but it is configurable. You can change it if you really want to have it that way, but I can't recommend it.
[16:54] <coz_> bmfx1,   ok  this is a desktop or laptop?
[16:54] <bmfx1> this is a desktop
[16:54] <Dedego> how can I remove this version of the build-essential?
[16:54] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, so xchat, amsn and all other stuff that have "go in system tray on "x"" just disapear
[16:55] <coz_> bmfx1,   what temperatures are you monitoring?
[16:55] <coz_> which
[16:55] <niadh> I need help setting up a static ip server and I have been trying for days, I cannot figure out what I am doing wrong, can someone help?
[16:55] <xangua> Dedego: sudo apt-get purge packagename
[16:55] <escott> Dedego, build-essential is a meta package removing it won't do much
[16:55] <rgr> niadh: try #linux
[16:55] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, yes, unless you configure them to be exceptions. Preferably, they'll provide their own indicators instead.
[16:55] <punguy> re: the info from ubotto. I think my brain is expermental and unstable in the morning ... before coffee.
[16:55] <Ultimate_Chaos> Thank you all, I really love you guys!?
[16:55] <rgr> its trivial
[16:55] <coz_> bmfx1,  which temperatures are you looking at ,, in a monitor?
[16:55] <rgr> and well documented
[16:55] <bmfx1> @coz_: are you know what command get temperature?
[16:56] <bmfx1> I see it on the case
[16:56] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, thanks for answering. ( btw, i really don't like that new behavior )
[16:56] <krajo> ola
[16:56] <coz_> bmfx1,  well  we can test the temperatures of the hard drives if you install  hddtemp
[16:56] <escott> bmfx1, sensors and sensors-detect
[16:56] <krajo> wtf
[16:56] <linusasus6> im in /boot/grub now what is the file I have to modfor see ubuntu again in list
[16:56] <Ultimate_Chaos> Also when i go to get temperature readings it says -407 degrees C
[16:56] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, I think notifications should notify you of something. That's not the case today, so it needs to be changed.
[16:56] <coachj> wow really
[16:56] <Ultimate_Chaos> Also on all sencors
[16:56] <mbroeker> niadh, you can edit /etc/network/interfaces to setup a static ip for a server without gui and network manager
[16:57] <rgr> linusasus6: nothing with grub 2 you are in the wrong place afaik, you must modify default. and run update-grub.
[16:57] <bmfx1> @coz_, @escott: ok, i'll install it
[16:57] <Stameni> jo-erlend_: we users get used to some stuff :)
[16:57] <pfifo> Ultimate_Chaos, less than absolute zero, nice
[16:57] <coz_> bmfx1,  after installing   hddtemp open a terminal   and type     sudo hddtemp /dev/sd*    or if you want that in farenheit   it would be     sudo hddtemp --u=F /dev/sd*
[16:57] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, also we would like to have an intelligible system, which means that features acts in the same ways. Indicators achieve that. Notifications doesn't.
[16:57] <shiftingcontrol> I updated studio 11.04 from 10.10 ,it hung six times,today how can i report the bug ?
[16:57] <linusasus6> rgr where's default.
[16:58] <Ultimate_Chaos> Also is there a way to fix that?
[16:58] <bmfx1> @coz_: this is my output
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda1: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda2: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda3: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda4: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <bmfx1> /dev/sda5: WDC WD5000AAKS-07A7B2: 49°C
[16:58] <Stameni> jo-erlend_: skype has no problems going in the upper bar when i say "stay in system tray when i click "x" "
[16:58] <tansell-laptop> escott, I have specified it in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:58] <sarthor> HI, i was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, and machine restarted or may be Internet went, i was sleeping at that time, Now, I can not boot linux, i am on the consol selecting M for manual, but and I manuall assigned IP and i can access the internet , how to upgrade,
[16:58] <Stameni> jo-erlend_: that has nothing to do with unity ?
[16:58] <linusasus6> I was use to it with the old method edit grub.lst lol
[16:58] <coz_> bmfx1,  ok  well thats ok  but when you paste things go to pastebin.com and paste it there then   give us the link :)
[16:58] <coachj> will someone please help me get 3d in 11.4
[16:59] <bmfx1> @coz_: ok, i'm sorry all :p
[16:59] <rgr> linusasus6: not quite rememebring I tried http://www.google.de/search?q=grub2+config+default and from that got : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[16:59] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, I've been trying to tell you that it is no problem to do it. You just need to add the name of the command, and it'll be added to the indicators as you expect. Skype is a preconfigured exception.
[16:59] <bmfx1> i don't know about that
[16:59] <bmfx1> :(
[16:59] <rgr> Its listed in the second link and explained
[16:59] <Stameni> jo-erlend_: thank you, i`ll install ccsm and try to make it that way
[16:59] <Krishnandu> escott, He tried adding boot flag to /boot partition, didn't helped, same CLI Grub screen...
[17:00] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, it may be a dconf setting. Let me have a look.
[17:00] <coz_> bmfx1,  no problem.... its just I believe the limit here is 2 maybe 3 lines can be pasted
[17:00] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, i don't have that eather, i`ll install it
[17:00] <coz_> bmfx1,  that is pretty hot actually  about 120 F
[17:01] <coz_> bmfx1,   do you have enough cooling in that system?
[17:01] <escott> Krishnandu, sounds like the grub-install wasn't done correctly or something is confusing grub.if he wants to get on the channel in the next 30 minutes ill still be eating lunch so having him pm me
[17:01] <coachj> hello
[17:01] <rgr> thats not hot for a CPU but is for a HD ...
[17:01] <coz_> rgr,  sure is
[17:01] <Ultimate_Chaos> Thank you all, I really love you guys!?
[17:02] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, can i pm you ?
[17:02] <bmfx1> coz, no, it have three fans but my case is small
[17:02] <coz_> bmfx1,   you might want to shut down,,, make sure the inside of the system is clean,, maybe add a fan near or on the hardrive(s)
[17:02] <coz_> bmfx1,  ah I see
[17:02] <katejones> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a Konjinsha SA5 L500x (from a USB stick) and I'm getting a weird error and then a grey screen.. could anyone help?
[17:02] <truepurple> How does one move /home from one partition to another? Can one just copy/paste?
[17:02] <coz_> bmfx1,  well check to see if any of those fans are directly over the hardrives
[17:02] <katejones> (i'm running the install to see the error again)
[17:02] <binox> im trying to get dvd to run proper(not choppy)  as well as some games.  video card is intel 82852, i installed libdvdread4 still not working,  flash video is fine. modules say DRM is on ,  any other advice?  its an older slower computer,  but not sure i should have this problem.
[17:02] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, no. 1) Install apt://dconf-editor 2) look up /desktop/unity/panel. You'll find it there.
[17:03] <coz_> bmfx1,  I actually removed my hard drive tray and put a nice 120mm fan on the tray externally because I also have a small case
[17:03] <Stameni> jo-erlend_, ok, tnx
[17:03] <bmfx1> coz_, yes, i will try ^^
[17:03] <stanisav> hi, cannot make usb startup disk, tried unetbootin, it made a disk, but cannot start live ubuntu
[17:03] <jo-erlend_> Stameni, it should be self-explanatory, but if not, ask again :)
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> stanisav:  thers the pendrivelinux web site that also has tools - if unetbootin fails.. what does the flash drive do when yoy try to boot it?
[17:03] <linusasus6> I found the default is in /etc/default wich file I edit?
[17:03] <dbm> Helo ppl. Can anyone explane me my problem about upgrading. I've upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04
[17:03] <dbm> And my boot its not working,.
[17:04] <dbm> Can get into the system.
[17:04] <coz_> bmfx1,  it will be worth it,, those temperatures for a hard drive are pretty high,, they should be  near 27 celcius
[17:04] <coachj> cam someone at least tell me the coamnd to test 3d acce;ration?
[17:04] <laserbled> hi...i have home on another partition....i want to move it from there to another harddisk partition....what should i do.....home and installation partitions are different....help please
[17:05] <bmfx1> coz, T__T yesterday, it is 50*C
[17:05] <bmfx1> very hot
[17:05] <bmfx1> 55*C
[17:05] <coz_> bmfx1,  that is a bit high for sure
[17:05] <stanisav> Dr_Willis: i don' remember the exact message, but it's something like cannot mount dev/loop0
[17:05] <bmfx1> coz_, when i use ubuntu (and others linux), they are hotter than windows
[17:06] <Guest90922> who use ubuntu 11.4 ?
[17:06] <coz_> coachj,  whoa  not sure,,, there are a few benchmarks apps out there that should work ,, but onboard,, the one that comes to mind is glxgears but that by far NOT going to test much of anything useful
[17:06] <coachj> me
[17:06] <katejones> I'm getting this error and then a grey/static like screen.
[17:06] <katejones> 126.358073  cs5535-mfd 0000 MFD devices failed to install
[17:06] <coz_> bmfx1,   that's odd,,, it should not be that way,,, although I have noticed an increase in temps  since lucid
[17:06] <morgajel> hey guys, noob question- I just upgraded to natty and found out my firepass vpn plugin won't work with firefox 4; what's the easiest way to downgrade back to 3.5/3.6?
[17:06] <Ultimate_Chaos> Also when i go to get temperature readings it says -407 degrees C is there a way to fix it?
[17:07] <Guest90922> i have a problem... Ubuntu says to me on the available monitors screen .. Unknown monitor .. and i cant use effects , high resolution and etc ... how to repair this shit =]] ?
[17:07] <xangua> morgajel: google old firefox releases
[17:07] <Stameni> jo-erland_, when i try sudo apt-get install dconf-editor it says that it doesn't exist
[17:07] <IdleOne> Guest90922: Please mind your language
[17:07] <xangua> !language | Guest90922
[17:07] <katejones> I can't install, and I can't boot into the Live Ubuntu on USB either.. would really like to install Ubuntu and get rid of XP.. can anyone help?
[17:08] <coachj> coz: can you help get 3d on my 11.4 install?
[17:08] <IdleOne> katejones: you are using 11.04 Live CD?
[17:08] <bastidrazor> morgajel: get the .deb of 3.6 and install that way. you can have both until 4.0 comes around
[17:08] <binox> maverick, intel 82852,  choppy dvd video, flash video fine.   libdvdread4 installed,  i believe  DRM is on for the cd/dvd rom  any suggestions?
[17:08] <Stameni> jo-erland_, i'v installed dconf alone, but it reports me an eror when i try to start it ( alltought, i don't know why am i trying that )
[17:08] <coz_> coachj,   which video card do you have?
[17:08] <keithpeter> Guest90922: what video card?
[17:08] <webben> I'm running Ubuntu in a virtual machine on OS X. I have a UK Macbook keyboard where alt+3 is the way to insert a hash/octothorpe/number sign.
[17:09] <coachj> coz: its an old card but 3d has worked fine till now it is an ati/radon 7500
[17:09] <webben> Does anyone know of a good way to get this or something similar working on ubuntu?
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> binox:  install vlc, run it from a terminal, try to play dvd. look for error messages in terminal
[17:09] <katejones> IdleOne : 11.04 on live USB stick, small netboox doesn't have cd drive but I can boot from usb. Installed it with the Universal USB installer on the USB stick, no errors
[17:09] <coz_> coachj,  ok  just to make it easier  when you type someones name type the first 2 or 3 letters of their name and hit tab until it gets the right person
[17:09] <bmfx1> coz_: i will use driver of oss or manufacture, what is better? :p
[17:09] <coz_> coachj,   ok  are you on  Unity or classic gnome
[17:10] <coz_> bmfx1,  driver for what ?  the hard drives?
[17:10] <decajon> #ubuntu-ar
[17:10] <coachj> coz_: classic trying to get unity
[17:10] <IdleOne> katejones: ok so you were able to create the USB install without error but it still won't boot to Ubuntu?
[17:10] <bmfx1> coz: graphic card
[17:10] <Lorthirk> hello, i'm having a strange problem: since this morning, using fglrx and gnome classic on natty, the content of the windows doesn't update until i resize or minimize the window itself. what can i do?
[17:10] <coz_> bmfx1,  I would start with making sure they are fan cooled well enough first and check the temps with hddtemp every so often
[17:10] <IdleOne> !alternate | katejones try creating the usb with the alternate install iso.
[17:11] <katejones> Yes, It starts OK, I get some code on black, then the MFD error, then Ubuntu with red dots moving underneath, then some more code, and then the screen goes blank (seems grainy too, greyish black)
[17:11] <katejones> thanks, will try.
[17:11] <bmfx1> coz_: ok, i will try it latter. thanks you so much ;)
[17:11] <Ultimate_Chaos> /riaa
[17:11] <Omega> webben: Check in the keyboard settings
[17:11] <coz_> coachj,   ah ok..  there may be an issue with that card then,, the ati driver should have installed automatically,,, I am by far NOT the person to deal with ati cards,, I know far too little about them.. you may have to google  that card version with uubntu 11.04  to see if it is supported for 3d accel
[17:11] <Ultimate_Chaos> I owe the RIAA $133,950,000 (893 mp3s)
[17:11] <binox> dr willis:   installing now.  command to run from terminal  when done?
[17:11] <ubuntu-usr> hi all
[17:12] <xangua> !ot | Ultimate_Chaos
[17:12] <coachj> coz_ ok thks
[17:12] <akshatj_> hi ubuntu-usr
[17:12] <DexterF> hi
[17:12] <Stameni> jo-erland_, the package is named "dconf-tools" but it doesn't work, anyway, thanks for help
[17:12] <binox> drwillis :  never mind on last question?
[17:13] <ubuntu-usr> my xserver does not work after 11.04 upgrade. It was alternate install from cd
[17:13] <DexterF> flash kills X after a recent upgrade. I suspect only in combo with nvidia-185. anybody else have this, possibly a remedy?
[17:13] <linusasus6> I'm getting lost in the grub2 documentation please how I do for ubuntu apear again in the grub menu when I do update-grub as you can see here http://pastebin.com/cEkpFdaM  it work but when is time to restart ubuntu still not there
[17:14] <katejones> ubottu & IdleOne - alternate version downloading, attempt number 2 :) (if that doesn't work I'll try the netbook version, if that doesn't work I might just throw this thing out the window..or be back)
[17:14] <ubuntu-usr> my problem is i can not use internet in command line because 3g modem
[17:14] <xangua> DexterF: don't use flash ;)
[17:14] <IdleOne> katejones: let's hope for the best.
[17:15] <phonex01> Hello
[17:15] <phonex01> how are you guys ?
[17:15] <phonex01> oh god ubunt 11.04 is really bad !
[17:15] <xangua> !ot > phonex01
[17:15] <IdleOne> good phonex01 thanks, did you have a support question?
[17:15] <phonex01> hahahah o, kidding
[17:15] <cheater2> hey guys, for some reason my mouse cursor just disappeared! what can i do? i can still move the mouse and click stuff, but the cursor is simply not there ...
[17:15] <phonex01> sorrrrrrrrry
[17:16] <dougl> how do I configure my ubuntu desktop on my network for static IP address?
[17:16] <phonex01> hi hi im kidding !
[17:16] <rgr> phonex01: saying 11.04 is really bad is not OT. But say why so people can learn.
[17:16] <aguitel> what is last version of libreoffice ?
[17:16] <cheater2> IdleOne, any ideas? :x
[17:17] <rgr> aguitel: where?
[17:17] <BlessJah> i have guy that moved hd from one computer to another, what is name of package that he has to dpkg --reconfigure in order to get new xorg.conf (old computer had nvidia, new one has intel)
[17:17] <akshatj_> aguitel, In ubuntu 11.04 or upstream?
[17:17] <aguitel> rgr, in natty
[17:17] <xangua> !info libreoffice > aguitel
[17:17] <kaizer> 11111
[17:17] <akshatj_> aguitel, its 3.3 AFAIK
[17:17] <IdleOne> cheater2: haha no idea but I suggest you keep track of where it is. Seriously. try logging out and back in. that should reset things.
[17:18] <morgajel> thanks guys, I had to pull ff 3.5+branding+xulrunner1.9.1
[17:18] <morgajel> and uninstall 4
[17:18] <aguitel> akshatj_, if i install from ppa in lucid too ?
[17:18] <trailoryo> I need help with installing Spotify for Linux(beta). pm me
[17:19] <needlez> hey has anyone had an issue with the gnome screensaver running rss-glx screensavers, like a bar seperating the screensaver near the top that is barely visible?? this is in ubuntu 11.04, just wanna know so I can make bug report, or if someone has a fix i may have over looked?
[17:19] <rgr> aguitel: you might find it faster to look in the natty packages here :- http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=natty&keywords=searc
[17:19] <karthick1987> How to stop getting mails from ubuntu-doc mailing list ?
[17:19] <rgr> karthick1987: unsuscribe.
[17:19] <akshatj_> aguitel, the PPA version is 3.3
[17:19] <aguitel> rgr, i need to install in 10.04 to replace openoffice
[17:19] <sammy> i'm looking for a GUI to start/stop upstart services
[17:19] <IdleOne> karthick1987: at the bottom of the emails there should be a link for you to unsubscribe
[17:19] <sammy> I must be overlooking it
[17:20] <cheater2> IdleOne, my problem is i can't log out, because i'm running ddrescue
[17:20] <aguitel> akshatj_, thanks
[17:20] <IdleOne> cheater2: you got me, sorry I can't help.
[17:20] <frxstrem> hi, I'm in a pretty bad situation here, as I managed to delete most files in my home directory - does anybody know of a way to recover them?
[17:21] <IdleOne> !undelete
[17:21] <Sub_Zero> On our laptop that runs Ubuntu when you plug headphones in the sound automatically stops coming through the speakers and just comes through the headphones.
[17:21] <cheater2> IdleOne, bit desperate :(
[17:21] <Sub_Zero> But on my Desktop computer with Ubuntu it does not do this. It continues to come through BOTH speakers and headphones
[17:21] <Acid190> Hey guys, im kickin myself with this, cannot get javaapplet to load.
[17:21] <Acid190> http://pastebin.com/zntiBqn1
[17:21] <frxstrem> IdleOne: thanks, I'll have a look at those links
[17:21] <SalahGo> Hi all
[17:22] <ubuntu> cze all
[17:22] <cheater2> Sub_Zero, i believe it needs special hardware support
[17:22] <mipli> i am having some trouble with a new install of 11.04. For some reason the system switches to an old metactiy like theme after I have been logged in for a minute or two. Anyone know what might cause this, or where I can start debugging the problem?
[17:22] <Sub_Zero> Dang
[17:22] <truepurple> Anyone able to help me with some ATI driver issues?
[17:22] <karthick1987> IdleOne: There is no unsubscribe link?
[17:22] <trailoryo> "# 1. Add this line to your list of repositories by
[17:22] <trailoryo> #    editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:22] <trailoryo> deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free" how do i do this? ;S
[17:22] <escott> Sub_Zero, its likely a new intel laptop
[17:22] <SalahGo> Guys, how come Skype can mess with a whole sound system (aka ALSA) on Ubuntu?
[17:23] <IdleOne> karthick1987: of course there is. all ubuntu mailing lists provide a link for you to manage your subscriptions.
[17:23] <will_> hey guys. how do i know if i've got nouveau with gallium 3D activiated? i'm hoping for some sort of definite console command, not just 'are you running unity or not?'
[17:23] <SalahGo> After installing Skype & running it on 11.04, it was acting funny, so i restarted, then no sound at all!
[17:23] <IdleOne> karthick1987: exactly where in the email I am not sure but it is there.
[17:23] <escott> Sub_Zero, you developers don't know the board configuration, and don't know what pins to disable when you plugin the headphone. you can manually disable pins with hda_analyzer.py from alsa
[17:23] <sammy> !repositories
[17:23] <vak> is it possible to pin Eclipse icon to Launcher in Ubuntu Unity somehow?
[17:24] <sammy> trailoryo: check out those links for how to mess with your repositories
[17:24] <sammy> anyone heard of a GUI to start/stop services?
[17:24] <sammy> I kinda can't believe there isn't one
[17:24] <dougl> I am googling to change maveric from dhcp to static ip on local network but am getting a range of ways to do it - how do I change from dhcp to static IP on my maverick box on my local network?
[17:25] <ross_> has anyone used the mobile hotspot with ubuntu?
[17:25] <akshatj_> sammy, better ask in #upstart
[17:25] <IdleOne> karthick1987: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc scroll down to the bottom of that page.
[17:25] <ross_> the verizon mifi
[17:25] <serene> dougl, I think the network tools will do that
[17:25] <will_> dougl: the easiest way would be using the network manager, if you have a graphical way to access your machine!
[17:26] <sammy> akshatj_: bah, sure, but I still can't believe there isn't an official ubuntu interface for status/start/stop upstart services.
[17:26] <AndroUser> xoxo
[17:26] <Helsinkiii> How do you disable the launcher bar thingy in 11.04
[17:26] <kill_joy> hey everyone
[17:26] <IdleOne> !classic | Helsinkiii
[17:26] <SalahGo> Guys, how can i restart ALSA with the default configuration?!
[17:26] <escott> dougl, you could also have your router reserve the ip for that particular mac address, which may be easier
[17:26] <coz_> Helsinkiii,   well you can put it in autohide mode via ccsm Unity plugin
[17:26] <AndroUser> hey all.  running 11.04 on a netbook
[17:27] <Helsinkiii> wow I think Unity stinks to be honest
[17:27] <dougl> serene, will thanks for the input - I do have gnome running...
[17:27] <n2i> Hi! Please help me!
[17:27] <kill_joy> Just upgraded to natty and I'm having issues with synaptic and software center.  If anyone can help... please pm me
[17:27] <zach_> Hi i hav a problem with making a usb startup disk with 11.04
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> Helsinkiii:  theres the classic gnome desktop you can select at the GDM screen.
[17:27] <n2i> I have an error, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/601786/
[17:27] <dougl> escott, yes that sounds better/easier... do you have a url with instrructions?
[17:28] <n2i> Please tell me how to fix!
[17:28] <pdfman> Trying ubuntu 10.10 from cd on laptop,gets the message"fdevice not ready firmware missing" how do i load firmware for wireless adaptor?
[17:28] <escott> dougl, depends on your router and its firmware
[17:28] <craigbass1976> I'm looking to get firefox 4 in lucid.  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable   Is that the best way?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> pdfman:  in the past ive had to plug in a qwired connection the first time , and install the wireless drivers
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> !ff4
[17:29] <escott> dougl, go to http://192.168.1.1 (assuming that is your router) and see if there is an option to reserve the ip by mac address
[17:29] <zvacet> n2i: sudo apt-get install acpi-support
[17:29] <n2i> zvacet: cannot update or install anything else :(
[17:29] <zach_> for some reason the live usb installation disk i made can't boot
[17:30] <craigbass1976> Dr_Willis, thank you sir; I just wanted to make sure this was the recommended dosage before I went and did it.
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> zach_:  whats your video chipset? what does it stop at?
[17:30] <dougl> escott, I have a wrt54g2 linksys with 1.0.01 firmware - checking options for mac addresses
[17:30] <zach_> it doesnt even get to booting
[17:30] <pdfman> Dr_Willis not an option for me because I have no physical access to the router.only wireless connection to AP
[17:30] <zach_> i've done it before on the same computer and it worked
[17:31] <SalahGo> Command to restart alsa with default config plz
[17:31] <zach_> with a different distro
[17:31] <n2i> root@ubuntu:/var/lib/dpkg/updates# rm *
[17:31] <n2i> rm: cannot remove `0000': Input/output error
[17:31] <n2i> rm: cannot remove `0001': Input/output error
[17:31] <n2i> rm: cannot remove `0002': Input/output error
[17:31] <n2i> rm: cannot remove `0003': Input/output error
[17:31] <n2i> rm: cannot remove `0004': Input/output error
[17:31] <FloodBot3> n2i: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <kill_joy> any ideas on how to fix this? --->
[17:31] <kill_joy> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[17:31] <kill_joy> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-security_main_i18n_Translation-en
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> n2i:  filesystem needs fscked.. or your hd is going bad.
[17:31] <Acid190> Any help?
[17:32] <n2i> Dr_Willis: I using Ubuntu on liveusb
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> zach_:  a differnt disrto may be using differnt default video drivers..
[17:32] <zach_> no it was lubuntu
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> n2i:  and you are trying to delete things from the cd? or what exactly?
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> zach_:  if you get lubuntu installed. you could then install 'ubuntu-desktop' package to get the normal Ubuntu stuff.
[17:32] <Helsinkiii> i miss the minimalist, unbloated interface of Gnome 2.0
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> zach_:  i think Lubuntu may default to some safer settings.
[17:33] <n2i> Dr_Willis: I also use this usb as flash devices on windows
[17:33] <zach_> no both computers used intel graphics
[17:33] <facelessloser> anyone have issus with 11.04 having a black screen after sleep
[17:33] <zvacet> Helsinkiii: from login screen select ubuntu classic
[17:33] <stefg> Helsinkiii: 10.04 is still a worthy (and recommended) install option... add some mozilla-stable and libreoffice ppa's und yyou have what you want
[17:34] <OwenLA7QZ> Hi. Anyone know how to set Adobe Reader as default app for PDF files? Works OK with double click in filemanager, but Chromium and calibre still open PDF's in Evince.
[17:34] <blackgraz> xcvbdf
[17:34] <n2i> Adobe Reader :3
[17:34] <illmortal> lol 11.04 came out waaaay too early. This GUI is broken in so many ways it's not even funny.
[17:35] <karthick1987> I have cleared cookies but still yahoomail shows my username and password..Why??
[17:35] <stefg> OwenLA7QZ: right click on a .pdf file and choose options. Select acroread as default
[17:35] <dougl> escott, I dont see any options to assign ip to mac address?
[17:35] <thelord> hi every one
[17:35] <arnab> how can i A) check which packages are not needed anymore, eg. dependencies of packages i already removed and B) remove them?
[17:35] <kill_joy> hello thelord
[17:35] <trollboy> is there a way to kill the new mac-like titlebar?  (the titlebar of the application in focus becomes the application bar at the top of the desktop?
[17:35] <stefg> OwenLA7QZ: chrome/chromium uses nautilus' default
[17:36] <user82> !autoremove
[17:36] <user82> lets seee
[17:36] <escott> dougl, the stock firmware from linksys isn't always the most configurable. you could see if tomato supports your device if you don't mind flashing new firmware
[17:36] <user82> not
[17:36] <zach_> Dr_Willis, do think they .iso image i downloaded might be corrupt?
[17:36] <stefg> trollboy: it's called global menus and there is a way to get rid of that nonsense
[17:36] <escott> !md5 | zach_
[17:36] <illmortal> anyone notice that Unity conflicts with Compiz?
[17:36] <Guest78388> hi @ every one
[17:36] <kill_joy> what up
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> zach_:  thats always possible. its easy to check its md5
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> !md5 | zach_
[17:36] <dougl> escott, googling tomato
[17:37] <arnab> !autoremove
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> BRB
[17:37] <OwenLA7QZ> stefg already did that
[17:37] <arnab> i see nothing
[17:37] <dougl> !staticip
[17:37] <luisgrin> hi, i have installed ubuntu server and some X support, now i would like to add kind of terminal server, i couldnot find until now one easy to install
[17:37] <OwenLA7QZ> That's why it works from fileman
[17:37] <zvacet> arnab: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/cleaning-up-all-unnecessary-junk-files-in-ubuntu.html
[17:37] <fezzik02> I'm having custom resolution issues with Unity and the nouveau driver
[17:38] <escott> dougl, if you cant find it try "tomato firmware"
[17:38] <user82> !autoclean
[17:38] <user82> hmmh...how was that dpkg command?
[17:38] <arnab> thanks
[17:39] <dougl> escott, yes I found it but still would be without the understanding of how to config for static ip
[17:39] <luis_> Hi, how set personal resolutions in ubuntu 11.04 (Amd hd4550) 1792x1344 and 1360x1024
[17:39] <stefg> OwenLA7QZ: My second thought is: it might be a system alternative My (guessed) command : sudo update-alternatives --config x-pdf-reader
[17:39] <zvacet> arnab: read about deborphan
[17:39] <luis_> #ubuntu-ar
[17:40] <stefan1a> I just upgraded to 11.04, and I installed the new nvidia driver. When I try to run SDL or OpenGL programs, I get a lot of lag both in the program and on the rest of my computer. Help
[17:40] <kill_joy> luis - type "display" in the unity search app  and you can mess with the resolution after clicking "monitor"
[17:40] <sffreer> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   sffreer marta Logrepo dabbish2 Stameni kimoliver stefan1a m00se hasenj ventsislav kamikaza luis_ tangent3_ Ahadiel_ mongy fezzik02 MarconM gridaphobe luisgrin OomElvis itaylor57 julesw tangent3 arnab moes happyface illmortal user82 Uzeb agu
[17:40] <escott> dougl, well if you go the router approach you technically wouldn't be static, you would be dynamic but the router would keep giving the same numeric ip lease (which is why that would be easier if your router supports i)
[17:41] <happyface> sffreer, i'm an athiest though
[17:41] <stefg> !pm | OwenLA7QZ:
[17:41] <fezzik02> killjoy: There's no custom resolution in the Monitors panel
[17:41] <Stameni> ok, i found a way to let applications stay in system tray in UNIITY !       gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"       jo-erland_
[17:41] <MarconM> o.O
[17:41] <dabbish2> haha, christian spam. funny
[17:41] <kill_joy> I just went there and  there's a pull down menu
[17:41] <MarconM> kkkk
[17:41] <happyface> dabbish2, yea lol
[17:41] <marta_> siemaneczko
[17:41] <bullgard4> http://people.ubuntu.com/~nhandler/classroom.html does not show any entries. Does this mean that there will be no classrooms in #ubuntu-classroom in May, 2011?
[17:41] <fezzik02> kill_joy those are only default or autodetect resolutions, we need custom resolutions
[17:42] <dougl> escott, right... so I could flash the firmware and still not know how to assign ip address to mac addresses
[17:42] <kill_joy> just did a quick check...  I'm sure you're right
[17:42] <a111> Windows cant read from a NTFS partition created in linux?
[17:43] <zvacet> a111: yes
[17:43] <sffreer> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   sffreer a111 stefg LiquidOps davide_ Froq JoshDreamland phibxr HouseMD c0mp13371331337 rcmaehl marta_ [vipe] trainer dabbish2 Stameni stefan1a m00se hasenj ventsislav kamikaza luis_ tangent3_ Ahadiel_ mongy fezzik02 MarconM gridaphobe luisg
[17:43] <OwenLA7QZ> stefg: sudo update-alternatives --config x-pdf-reader (This is Navigatrix, branch of 10.04?)
[17:43] <fezzik02> a111: I think you might have to 'sign' it in the Window$ disk amanger
[17:43] <MarconM> ¬¬
[17:43] <Stameni> please kick this dude
[17:43] <kill_joy> ok, I just typed "nvidia" into the unity search and got my graphix card settings...  try typing in yours
[17:43] <luisgrin> nothing to do with ubuntu, but i wonder what happens if you are nigger, jew, gay and freenode staff? is jesus enough to save you? :)
[17:43] <kamikaza> pls
[17:43] <a111> oh kk
[17:43] <OwenLA7QZ> stefg, I get: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for x-pdf-reader.
[17:43] <MarconM> agree
[17:43] <IdleOne> !language | luisgrin
[17:44] <escott> dougl, try http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20956187-WRT54GS-wDDWRT-Force-IP-to-MAC
[17:44] <zvacet> a111: I mean windows should be able to read any ntfs partition
[17:44] <IdleOne> Please ignore the spam folks.
[17:44] <fezzik02> kill_joy that one doesn't let us do custom, either :(
[17:44] <zach_> Dr_Willis, the download isn't corrupt
[17:44] <Supernova> Oooooh, spam
[17:44] <fezzik02> kill_joy:have also tried xrandr, no love
[17:44] <dougl> escott, thanks looking now
[17:44] <OwenLA7QZ> stefg, I get: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for x-pdf-reader.
[17:44] <stefg> OwenLA7QZ: it was guesswork. Meanwhile i checked it myself and did not find that update-alternatives changes the default pdf reader
[17:45] <[vipe]> jesus couldnt save himself ;)
[17:45] <luisgrin> I have installed ubuntu server and some X support, now i would like to add kind of terminal server, i couldnot find until now one easy to install
[17:45] <a111> zvacet, The win7 install said it couldnt read from it
[17:45] <kill_joy> once you're in your settings (nvidia in my case) your display settings are to the right (pull down menu) lets you choose new resolution
[17:45] <trailoryo> sammy : Thanks ! after some reading on handling repositaries it's now working perfectly:)
[17:46] <stefg> OwenLA7QZ: and another thing is: it is not ubuntu. hell knows what the developers of your dstro did, so there is no guarantee that things woorking in ubuntu work in a derivative as well
[17:46] <Captain_Haddock> Hi, I need  some help with rsync: how do I set it to only copy new files/directories? i.e., the opposite of the --existing option.
[17:47] <stefg> !rsnc
[17:47] <zvacet> a111:  I think it is strange but not a expert
[17:47] <stefg> !rsync
[17:47] <User_007> Hello guys,
[17:47] <Captain_Haddock> thanks stefg
[17:48] <stefg> Captain_Haddock: hint: --update
[17:48] <kill_joy> anyone having issues with synaptic after upgrading to natty?
[17:49] <OwenLA7QZ> stefg. Most stuff for ubuntu works fine (everything in Package Manager), but this one has me stumped.
[17:49] <deitarion> Did someone make a change to APT recently without passing it through quality control review or something? My mother did what she says was a "partial upgrade" a couple of days ago and found her Digikam missing (She's using Lubuntu with KDE bits) and now, when I try to re-install it, it refuses because things like kdebase-runtime aren't going to be installed rather than just pulling them in like it should.
[17:50] <binox> dr willis:  or anyone,   vlc media worked to run dvds  not choppy  instead of totem      why?
[17:50] <bullgard4> kill_joy: Me not.
[17:50] <DavidePalm> I'm having an issue, My NTFS partition shows as being smaller under windows7 than it actually should be.  If I check with gparted under ubuntu it says it should be 70+GB 30used and 40unused, but under windows it says the disk is only 37gb total 30 used, 7 unusued any idea what's going on?
[17:50] <Captain_Haddock> stefg: --update also updates older files. I only want missing files/directories to be copied.
[17:50] <kill_joy> bullgard4: I've gone through alot of forums and can't get the issue resolved
[17:51] <binox> is there something i can now do to make simple games run(like tuxcart or something)  without choppy video.   after that   im a full time ubuntu user
[17:51] <IdleOne> deitarion: the partial upgrade is what messed things up. probably best to ask in #lubuntu for help with this.
[17:51] <stefg> Captain_Haddock: man rsync :-)
[17:51] <bullgard4> kill_joy: Look up the error in Launchpad.
[17:51] <Captain_Haddock> stefg: I'm here after doing that :)
[17:51] <Captain_Haddock> " -u, --update                update only (don't overwrite newer files)"
[17:51] <User_007> Guys, i get last Ubuntu (Natty amd64), and i want to install some indicator-applets (like cpufreq) on Unity,
[17:51] <sammy> trailoryo: no problem. try googling first, and see if any results are on the ubuntu wiki, or in a forum post on the ubuntu forums with '[SOLVED]' in the title.
[17:51] <stefg> Captain_Haddock: and often forgotten: /usr/share/docs/rsync
[17:52] <kill_joy> bullgard4: ok, I'll give it a try
[17:52] <Captain_Haddock> stefg: What I want is the opposite of --existing.. nothing in the man pages seem to hint at anything for it.
[17:52] <sffreer> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   sffreer syslq nyoger x1sc0 dr3mro stefanivarsson slack_ oCean Hilikus binox DavidePalm wabznasm NEXUS-6 trollboy rako_ djm_ sandGorgon deitarion Guybrush88 LjL i_is_broke tuxampol dfgas wzssyqa User_007 jrib Logrepo 
[17:52]  * Captain_Haddock checks out /usr/share ....
[17:52] <User_007> i found it's possible ((http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/), but just installing don  make them appear  near the clock
[17:52] <binox> maverick.  intel 82852/855     fixed dvd choppy playback  by using vlc instead of totem  worked great.  flash video is fine.
[17:52] <binox> some games dont run not choppy,  simple ones like tuxcart or wurmtux
[17:52] <binox> any ideas
[17:53] <iceroot> binox: any errors?
[17:53] <binox> iceroot:  how to check,
[17:53] <binox> but i dont think
[17:54] <slack101> hello
[17:54] <shigutso> Giving away lots of Snivys, Oshawotts and Tirtougas, all Lv 1
[17:55] <mpy> is there a sound fix for macbook 7.1 yet?
[17:55] <stefg> Captain_Haddock: so you /don't/ want to update existng files, but add newly created ones?
[17:55] <mpy> if so, can anyone help me out?
[17:55] <nyoger> /dev/dsp is present in lucid.  if /dev/dsp stopped being present in maverick on out, then will lucid suffice for video capture ?
[17:55] <binox> iceroot: totem wouldnt play dvd smooth even after installind libdvdread4  and enabling drm to dvd.   i installed vlc and it worked fine. my flash vid works fine too. is it possibble maybe vga are not enabled or something?
[17:56] <iceroot> binox: what vga you have?
[17:56] <stefg> Captain_Haddock: i'd use rdiff-backup ... sort of time-machine'ish backup for the cli
[17:56] <binox> the card is intel 82852/855 integrated,  old i know  ,  but should work , am i right?
[17:57] <vaxinated> hello world
[17:57] <werjw> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   werjw Dantonic vaxinated andjons slack101 edbian Jeruvy adan dougl imcsk8 SelakS arquebus RhinoX asdfsdggre Dr_Willis csharma glcrazy syslq nyoger x1sc0 dr3mro stefanivarsson oCean Hilikus binox wabznasm NEXUS-6 trollboy 
[17:57] <werjw> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   trainer dabbish2 Stameni stefan1a m00se hasenj kamikaza luis_ tangent3_ Ahadiel_ mongy MarconM luisgrin itaylor57 julesw tangent3 happyface illmortal user82 aguitel_ Stormx2 apelgate MicroBot tormod hobbsc craigbass1976 d
[17:57] <werjw> IF YOU DIED TODAY DO  YOU KNOW WHERE YOU  WOULD END UP? NIGGERS, GAYS, JEWS  AND FREENODE  STAFF ARE  ALL GOING TO BURN  IN HELL... IF YOU  ARE ONE OF  THESE YOU NEED  TO ASK  JESUS CHRIST  FOR  IMMEDIATE FORGIVENESS.   OiPenguin lamalex Froq_ ki__ Gwar tolmun_ netsjanek jibadeeha MadViking akshatj_ choonming Naenyn webben morgajel ai6pg ProfessorBacon Guest90922 nmodprime avdi loglad ross_ Eryn_1983_FL01 Barridus DodgeThis akem DNX kate
[17:57] <stefg> vaxinated: syntax error in line #1
[17:57] <Hilikus> again??
[17:57] <edbian> !ops
[17:57] <asdfsdggre> 1^^
[17:58] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[17:58] <maco> edbian: taken care of
[17:58] <edbian> maco: thanks
[17:58] <maco> edbian: it was IdleOne
[17:58] <stefanivarsson> Anyone know if nvidia 96 driver is ok for Natty?
[17:58] <vaxinated> stefg: core dump
[17:58] <edbian> IdleOne: Why would you spam the channel?!
[17:58] <maco> edbian: what?
[17:58] <SpaceBass> having trouble with 11.04 - cant get mysql-core-5.1 to install, suspect its because of a previous install. Tried to purge it, no dice
[17:58] <maco> edbian: IdleOne got rid of the spammer
[17:58] <edbian> maco: It was a joke
[17:58] <User_007> Can anyone help me with indicator-applets?
[17:58] <asdfsdggre> werjw wichser
[17:58] <deitarion> Someone needs to write an IRC daemon which can implement "Too many nicks. You're kickbanned." BEFORE passing the message on to everyone.
[17:59] <IdleOne> edbian: lol I wouldn't and you should know that :)
[17:59] <edbian> IdleOne: :)
[18:00] <deitarion> Does anyone know of a way to ask apt-get for a list of which repo each broken package is coming from?
[18:00] <binox> iceroot:  i fixed it, rand drm to hdd.  thank you.     I am now ubuntu full time, windows is gone.  thank you
[18:01] <bullgard4> !ask | User_007
[18:01] <binox> can anyone tell me why dvd runs properly for me with vlc  instead of totem
[18:01] <vak> Is it possible to pin Eclipse icon to Launcher in Ubuntu Unity somehow?
[18:01] <User_007> bullgard4 i have already asked the question
[18:01] <wabznasm> vak: I've done it. unity2d or unity or classic?
[18:01] <oCean> deitarion: apt-cache policy packagename shows repo origin I think
[18:01] <puckipedia> vak:Open eclipse, rightclick in unity and choose "Keep in launcher"
[18:01] <User_007> bullgard4, i get last Ubuntu (Natty amd64), and i want to install some indicator-applets (like cpufreq) on Unity,
[18:02] <deitarion> Aha! A website suggested trying with aptitude instead and it gave me an answer.
[18:02] <rcmaehl> how do I find out if I'm running 64-bit 11.04 via terminal/
[18:02] <vaxinated> binox: vlc has its own decoders for video/audio, totem needs gstreamer codecs added.
[18:02] <stefg> rcmaehl: uname -a
[18:02] <vak> wabznasm: or damn, I don't know... default one that comes with Ubuntu 11 desktop...
[18:02]  * rcmaehl rages at the devs
[18:02] <deitarion> When aptitude suggested the same solution as apt-get and I picked "no", it then suggested downgrading half of KDE from maverick-security to maverick so the other half (from maverick) would accept it.
[18:02] <bullgard4> User_007: (I am not familiar with Unity.)
[18:03] <Primedeath> Hello, folks.
[18:03] <wabznasm> vak: as puckipedia said - open Eclipse, then right cllick the icon in the launcher and 'Keep in launcher'
[18:03] <kill_joy> hello
[18:03] <vak> puckipedia: no. It get's pinned until the end of the session only (and also icon isn't detected correctly)
[18:03] <vak> wabznasm: ^^
[18:03] <binox> vaxinated:  thast makes sense,  thank you.  here is a question then ,  when i installed libdvdread4,  should i have not got prompted to search for the codec plugins.  i did not,  how could i install the gstreamer plugins manually,  although i will probably just use vlc
[18:04] <rgr> deitarion: my own experience is never to mix apt-get and aptitude. others swear its fine. I know its ont.
[18:04] <dan_> hello, how can i disable that windows get maximized if dragged to the upper edge of the screen?, annoyes the hell out of me
[18:04] <Primedeath> Hello, I was wondering if any of you would give me your opinion on how well Ubuntu would work on a G4 800mhz iMac?
[18:05] <rgr> But its not worth arguing with people - if they want to think it works good luck to them. But when I mixed the two my system fell to pieces.
[18:05] <vaxinated> binox: look for totem and gstreamer in ubuntu software center.  i think there is a connection.
[18:05] <Primedeath> Also, I am trying to find the download image for the PPC version but the only link I have found was in the Daily Builds section.
[18:05] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:05] <webben> Omega: What option in Keyboard Preferences would allow me to type a hash?
[18:05] <vaxinated> binox: or you could just install mplayer which handles video nicely.
[18:05] <bullgard4> !grub | skullboy
[18:06] <binox> ok thank you,  my problem is solved,  but the more i know the better. im fully converted now.   thanks again
[18:06] <srisimil> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 by upgrading from 10.04, installation went fine. But now I can't boot into my windows xp partition.
[18:06] <Stameni> How to set Geany to run code using python3, not 2    ?
[18:06] <srisimil> can someone please help me?
[18:06] <Omega> webben: You can't type a hash? try shift-3
[18:06] <stefg> Primedeath: CPU-wise you should be fine, deppends on how much ram you have. Official PPC support was dropped after 6.06, so i don't know how good the community port of later releases is
[18:07] <Primedeath> Damn.
[18:07] <webben> Omega: Shift-3 is £.
[18:07] <webben> (which is correct)
[18:07] <Primedeath> The only PPC version I found is  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[18:07] <kernelpanicker> I need to burn a dmg to a DVD to rescue my friend's Apple (using my linux machine).  How do I burn it in a way that the apple will boot from?  I'm assuming if I just burn the file, it won't be bootable, as the result will be a DVD containing a dmg file, and not what an apple would burn FROM a dmg.
[18:07] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:07] <raju> SRISMIL update grub
[18:07] <shigutso> how can I make unity bar stay animating urgent until I click it?
[18:07] <stefg> Primedeath: you will certainly have issues with things like flash and hardware support
[18:07] <SalahGo> srisimil, update-grub in root command
[18:07] <Primedeath> So would it be best just to install 10.4?
[18:08] <raju> !grub | srisimil
[18:08] <raju> srisimil:  THAT CAN HELPN U
[18:08] <Primedeath> What do you think stefg?
[18:08] <webben> Omega: Looks like turning on left-alt-to-3rd-level gets me # on alt-3 ... but it also disables other alt-based functionality
[18:08] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:08] <Omega> webben: what functionality does it disable?
[18:08] <webben> Omega: alt-whatever to open a menu
[18:09] <srisimil> raju: did that. Actually I already had a dual boot system. Even now I can see my windows option on the grub screen. But when i select it it just goes blank
[18:09] <webben> Omega: right-alt-to-3rd-level seems to work better.
[18:09] <stefg> Primedeath: yeah, sounds reasonable. If you have around a gig of ram ii'd try a 10.04 install, and hunt down some ppa-repos for things like firefox and stuff
[18:09] <tomasz> what is spam check ?
[18:09] <Omega> webben: try any alt
[18:09] <djazz> what to do when ubuntu dont see my (usb) bluetooth adapter? 11.04, AOA110
[18:10] <webben> Omega: any alt disables alt-[letter] to open a menu too
[18:10] <tomasz> what is floodbot ?
[18:10] <HrT> Hi, I'm following this guide to install my ATI HD 5470 driver on Ubuntu 11.04, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1409467 | when I reach sudo aticonfig --initial, it says command not found, please HELP
[18:10] <raju> srisimil:  verify that windows /sda and grub windows /sda ....i mean both are same or not
[18:10] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:10] <asdfsdggre> hi
[18:10] <User_007> i needs help with unity on Natty, can anyone help?
[18:10] <webben> Omega: oh interesting looks like right-alt+3 gives # by default
[18:10] <asdfsdggre> i have question
[18:10] <webben> I can probably live with that
[18:11] <Chipzzz> tomasz: floodbot tells you not to type too many lines without a break
[18:11] <srisimil> raju: can you elaborate on that plz
[18:11] <tomasz> but i come nothing write and check me i am not bot
[18:11] <asdfsdggre> hi
[18:11] <asdfsdggre> i have question
[18:11] <skullboy> what is it
[18:11] <asdfsdggre> my question is
[18:11] <asdfsdggre> can sb help me
[18:12] <skullboy> spill it
[18:12] <raju> srisimil:  sure
[18:12] <djazz> :| what to do when ubuntu not finds my bluetooth adapter?
[18:12] <Chipzzz> tomasz: they are having tech problems... floodbot is checking for bots while they fix it
[18:12] <tjiggi_fo> IdleOne, I spy larstorben asdfsdggre
[18:12] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:13] <srisimil> asdfsdggre: just ask your question. someone will answer
[18:13] <SalahGo> pulseaudio applet on 11.04 is,!
[18:13] <SalahGo> ???
[18:13] <tomasz> ok
[18:13] <HrT> please help: Hi, I'm following this guide to install my ATI HD 5470 driver on Ubuntu 11.04, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1409467 | when I reach sudo aticonfig --initial, it says command not found, please HELP
[18:14] <djazz> anyone wanna help?
[18:14] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:14] <djazz> me
[18:14] <user82> can i search for terminal commands in the "history". like i knew i started programm1 and nedd all parameters back?
[18:14] <escott> user82, history
[18:14] <bullgard4> user82: Ctrl-R
[18:14] <arand_> user82: [crtl+r] and start typing to search
[18:15] <user82> nice..more time to be saved. thanks
[18:15] <thien> sometime I have a window of which, the button (Ok/Cancel/Finish...) can't click until I move the window a bit. How to fix it?
[18:15] <raju> srisimil:  u here ?
[18:15] <srisimil> raju:yes
[18:15] <jeroen__> hi
[18:15] <billybob> can someone tell me how /if 3d is working in 11.4 with a ati 9800 card?
[18:16] <kernelpanicker> Anyone know how to burn a dmg of a live DVD to DVD so it'll be bootable?
[18:16] <djazz> hciconfig -a outputs nothing
[18:16] <nsahoo> google chrome window decorations are broken after ubuntu 11.04 upgrade. Once, I maximize and restore the chrome window it's covered by regular application window border
[18:16] <usalabs> can someone help me with using the passwords and encryption keys to configure with an SSH remote server?
[18:16] <djazz> I have two adapters and none work..
[18:16] <stefg> !ssh
[18:16] <jrib> !ssh | usalabs
[18:17] <coder2> Hello. Could anyone help me with alsamixer. It does start, just writing:  Mixer load hw:0 error: Invalid argument
[18:17] <skullboy> how do i change the grub key config
[18:17] <djazz> It works on other computers..
[18:17] <jeroen__> hi i upgraded my ubuntu to 11.04 but now i can ownley see my background
[18:18] <kill_joy> anyone know how to make ubuntu check for file errors and correct them (in terminal or otherwise)?
[18:18] <bullgard4> coder2: May be it helps to re-install alsamixer.
[18:18] <Chipzzz> HrT: you may have to cd to the directory where aticonfig resides or use the full path to invoke it
[18:18] <stefg> !fsck
[18:18] <djazz> blueman applet doesnt work in 11.04...
[18:18] <coder2> bulgard4: how to do it?
[18:18] <kill_joy> thanks
[18:19] <stefg> !fsck > kill_joy
[18:19] <coder2> sorry, bullgard4, how to reinstall mixer only
[18:19] <kill_joy> ok
[18:19] <renan> Hi there, how to install the wireless proprietary drivers? ubuntu 11.4, any help greatly appreciated!
[18:19] <renan> Thanks!
[18:19] <Omega> .go sni
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> renan:  one way. hook up a wired connection and try the addational-drivers tool and hope it can download them. Thats the easiest way
[18:19] <djazz> hello?
[18:19] <kill_joy> alright, ubottu. I'm going to give that a shot. thank again
[18:20] <superdump> is there some way, perhaps involving a separate terminal with the alternate installer, to reuse an existing encrypted lvm partition layout, formatting only some partitions and merely mounting and reusing others?
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> renan:  a lot will depemnd on your exact wireless card and chipset
[18:20] <bullgard4> coder2: Using Synaptic, de-install the DEB program package »gnome-alsmixer«. Then re-install it.
[18:20] <billybob> i am getting 48 fps in glxgears shouldnt unity work?
[18:20] <renan> Dr_Willis: I did that, but its not showing anything. However the same procedure worked on ubuntu 10.10
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[18:20] <coder2> bullgard4: I had to install lucid on other mobo, then returned my mobo back. Sound works, but i cannot control volume
[18:20] <jeroen__> has anyone got a clue why my menu's stoped working in ubuntu 11.04
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> renan:  its possuible thers some bug with the addational-drivers tool
[18:21] <billybob> i meant Iam gettting 84fps in glxgears shouldnt unity be working?
[18:21] <renan> Dr_Willis: is there another way?
[18:21] <coder2> bullgard4: I do not have gnome at all. It is console-only system
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> billybob:  glxgears is not a very good benchmark.
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> renan:  if you knew qwhat packages to install you could download them I guess. but how you figure out what you need, i dontknow
[18:22] <trailoryo> Hey guys I got a problem with watching 720p/1080pHD (in any player). It runs, but not even close to smooth. Here's "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601700/
[18:22] <renan> hum... Thanks...
[18:22] <billybob> Dr_Willis can you help trouble shoot
[18:23] <mathmoi> Hi, what should I do if lsusb simply hang (I can't even use C-c to kill it)?
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> billybob:  tell the channel your video card/chipset and details of the whole problem.
[18:23] <bullgard4> coder2: 'sudo apt-get remove gnome-alsamixer && apt-get install gnome-alsamixer'.
[18:23] <justyellowboy> Anybody here well-versed in GIMP? The chat there seems empty. How do you a PNG specifically in 8-bit format?
[18:23] <stefg> trailoryo: there are known bugs with fglrx in natty. Try the open source driver
[18:23] <justyellowboy> *save
[18:23] <paulm9> hi, I'm trying to get postfix to relay mails via exchange.   i'm getting SASL authentication failed because of authentication unsuccessful. Could this at all be caused by an Untrusted TLS connection?
[18:23] <billybob> my card is ati  9800 unity will not run that is all I know
[18:24] <coder2> bullgard4:  how about alsamixer? No GUI, no gnome
[18:24] <tansell-laptop> where does upstart keep the configration information that makes things like "start libvirt" work?
[18:24] <bullgard4> coder2: alsamixer does not need GNOME.
[18:24] <trailoryo> stefg: how do I get that?
[18:24] <justyellowboy> bullgard4: The package name is just "alsamixer". Open it from the terminal and press F5 to make adjustments.
[18:25] <bullgard4> justyellowboy: Wrong adressee.
[18:25] <bullgard4> justyellowboy: Wrong addressee.
[18:25] <coder2> bullgard4, so why I should install "gnome-alsamixer" instead of just alsamixer?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> alsamixer is a text based/console mixer program.
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> or was that alsa-mixer? i get so confused
[18:25] <bullgard4> coder2: I did not know that you do not have GNOME.
[18:25] <MrTolkinghorn> hey, anyone had problems with instability with a kernel? Whenever I have my stable overclocks on (4.2 ghz on a core i7) my computer crashes despite windows working just fine with hours of prime95...
[18:25] <Chipzzz> justyellowboy: when you save a file as a PNG a dialog opens that should allow you to adjust the format (unless it started out as a PNG)
[18:26] <coder2> Dr_Willis, Yes, I need console-only, but it do not start
[18:26] <MrTolkinghorn> 2.6.32-28 was the only truly stable kernel, any of the new ones crash
[18:26] <tensorpudding> MrTolkinghorn: you should isolate what is causing it to crash, first
[18:26] <tensorpudding> MrTolkinghorn: is it a kernel panic?
[18:27] <MrTolkinghorn> which log should I look under for that?
[18:27] <coder2> bullgard4, sorry, I've mentioned that my system is console-only
[18:27] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding: I'm having trouble finding any errors in the log
[18:27] <rmatte> does anyone know of a simple way to revert to the versions of compiz/emerald that were included with 10.10 after upgrading to 11.04?  The new version of emerald is buggy with my window theme.
[18:27] <tensorpudding> a kernel panic would put a big dump on the screen and wait for you to reboot the machine
[18:27] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding: it is a kernel panic then
[18:27] <renan> Dr_Willis: Dell Wireless 1370 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[18:27] <stefg> trailoryo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33092/how-well-do-ati-drivers-work-with-unity
[18:28] <tensorpudding> first you should stop overclocking and see if it still panics
[18:28] <billybob> doeas anyone else knoe why glxgears would work but unity not
[18:28] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding, but it isn't giving me a clear error
[18:28] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding, no it works just fine without an overclock
[18:28] <renan> Dr_Willis: now how to download and instal?
[18:28] <rmatte> billybob: glxgears is just an indication that OpenGL is functional, it is not an indication that compositing (which is required for Unity) is functional.
[18:28] <renan> Dr_Willis: would you know that?
[18:28] <Chipzzz> MrTolkinghorn: I'm running 2.6.32-31 on two machines & they're both very stable
[18:28] <bullgard4> coder2: Try 'sudo apt-get remove alsa-utils && apt-get install alsa-utils'.
[18:29] <MrTolkinghorn> chipzzz the older kernels worked, after the 2.6.32 kernels, they stopped working.
[18:29] <stefg> !pm | trailoryo
[18:29] <tensorpudding> by default linux isn't configured to dump core
[18:29] <escott> billybob, check your glxinfo to see what renderer you have
[18:29] <billybob> is there a test for composting
[18:29] <billybob> checking
[18:29] <rmatte> billybob: are you by any chance using two monitors across two different video cards?
[18:29] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding how can I turn on dump core, so I can get a clear error message?
[18:29] <rmatte> billybob: or one video card that has two cards in it connected via SLI across two monitors?
[18:29] <tensorpudding> not sure
[18:29] <coder2> Dr Willis, bullgard4: replacing of motherboard caused problems with network and sound. I've fixed network, but i do not know how to fix sound
[18:29] <brous-kee> tansell-laptop, try this  http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/125977
[18:30] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding, ok thanks, I can just look it up of course. Now that I know it ISN't dumping the core.
[18:30] <billybob> rmate no one both
[18:30] <rmatte> sorry, clarify?
[18:30] <tensorpudding> have you read the stacktrace that comes up during the panic?
[18:30] <justyellowboy> Chipzzz: I tried using compression level 8, but the 1000x1000 file size comes up wrong. It should be in the 100-200 Kbyte range, and I'm getting 900+.
[18:30] <karthick87> How to remove unused PPA from command line?
[18:30] <stefg> trailoryo: that has nothing to do with unity, the problem is with the version of xorg in natty and fglrxx don't play well together
[18:30] <Barridus> it's not possible to have the current weather in the clock area/top toolbar anymore?
[18:30] <Wampyre> Hello.  I've just installed 11.04.  Not very happy with the menu system.  How can I make it act more like a traditional menu?
[18:31] <billybob> escitt say direct rendering
[18:31] <tensorpudding> you can get core dumps by installing linux-crashdump
[18:31] <stefg> !classic
[18:31] <trism> justyellowboy: I believe using Image/Mode/Indexed... then selecting the palette, <= 256 should give you an 8-bit png when you save (imagemagick identify gives me that impression when I check it after saving)
[18:31] <trailoryo> stefg: yeah thanks man i've read some more now^^ think i will be able to fix it by myself from this point on, thanks again
[18:31] <tensorpudding> and configuring grub i think
[18:31] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding no I haven't, I'm actually not sure what that is. I'll install that.
[18:31] <paulm9> hi, where can i get help with setting up postfix?
[18:31] <billybob> escott: say direct rendreing is that what you need?
[18:31] <Chipzzz> justyellowboy: compression level is not the same as bits/pixel
[18:31] <rmatte> karthick87: not to be rude, but come on: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=remove+ppa+repo+from+commandline
[18:32] <escott> billybob, what video card is this?
[18:32] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding ok. I've tried to turn of acpi and turn on hpet thinking it might have been a problem related to those.
[18:32] <stefg> paulm9: more likely in #ubuntu-server than in here :-)
[18:32] <billybob> escott old ati 9800
[18:32] <skullboy> how do i change the GRUB2 keyboard shortcuts
[18:32] <tekonivelo> my Gwibber has been refusing to open for about a week now (Natty 11.04)
[18:32] <justyellowboy> Thanks, guys, I was wondering where the index control levels were! I'll report back to you if it works out!
[18:32] <paulm9> stegf: thanks
[18:32] <rmatte> billybob: I didn't understand what you meant by "no one both"
[18:32] <rmatte> what is your setup?
[18:32] <tekonivelo> the Unity lens does display new posts by friends, though, so the Gwibber-service is working properly
[18:32] <rmatte> I have lots of experience with this sort of thing but I need to know what your setup is
[18:33] <escott> billybob, if thats really old it may not be powerful enough for compositing, but ati's are reasonably well supported
[18:33] <tensorpudding> MrTolkinghorn: have you checked /var/log/dmesg
[18:33] <IdleOne> skullboy: why would you want to? and I am going to guess you would need to do that in the source and recompile.
[18:33] <billybob> rmatte i meant no to both
[18:33] <MrTolkinghorn> yeah.
[18:33] <coder2> bullgard4: before I try to reinstall alsa-utils, please advise how to backup the system easily? It is very painful to reinstall the whole OS on this hardware, because 10.04 do not install on it and I need to install the OS on other motherboard and then return my again
[18:33] <rmatte> billybob: ok
[18:33] <tensorpudding> MrTolkinghorn: and /var/log/kern.log
[18:33] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding there was nothing that I could find related to the crash in there.
[18:33] <rmatte> billybob: what kind of video card are you using?
[18:33] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding same with that, nothing that really stood out.
[18:33] <tensorpudding> but you're sure it was due to a panic?
[18:33] <escott> skullboy, doubt you can, its not the most configurable thing
[18:33] <billybob> rmatte ati 9800 it is old but has woorked untill now
[18:33] <chrome_> When will firefox 4 be available for ubuntu?
[18:34] <escott> chrome_, it is in 11.04
[18:34] <WhitePelican> hello all, I need help with Medibuntu for natty
[18:34] <Wampyre> Thanks stefg
[18:34] <chrome_> escott: how do I know which version of ubuntu I have?
[18:34] <tekonivelo> i didn't find a bug on Gwibber launchpad about this
[18:34] <skullboy> well i want to encrypt my GRUB2 bootloader and i dont want people to just press e and edit the lock entry out
[18:34] <rmatte> billybob: hmmm, what about unity isn't working?
[18:34] <escott> chrome_, lsb_release -a in the terminal
[18:34] <rmatte> are you seeing artifacts left behind by windows and stuff?
[18:35] <billybob> rmatte: It wont run defaults to classic even when i choose unity
[18:35] <SeanChambers> i'm having problems booting into 11.04 after a successful install on a lenovo w500. I just get a blank screen with a blinking cursor in the upper left part of the screen
[18:35] <tensorpudding> chrome_: it's already available in 11.04
[18:35] <rmatte> billybob: oh, that's really weird
[18:35] <Lunar_Lamp> I'm getting segfaults in /var/log/kern.log every time I try to use apt-get or aptitude. Suggestions?
[18:35] <MrTolkinghorn> tensorpudding every time it crashes, it's a solid lock-up. the keyboard flashes, and it reboots in 30 seconds. I can only assume that's a kernel panic. sometimes If it crashes when booting, it'll show some of the error messages, but none of them seem related to the crash, just more stuff which looks like normal boot kernel log messages.
[18:35] <billybob> rmatte: story of my life
[18:35] <chrome_> escott: how can I upgrade ubuntu from the version 10.4 to the 11.04?
[18:35] <rmatte> billybob: it ran on my work workstation which has no graphics acceleration of any kind (didn't run well at all, but it did start)
[18:35] <bullgard4> !backup | coder2
[18:35] <rmatte> billybob: sounds like possibly a package problem or something
[18:36] <billybob> rmatte: suggestions to fix?
[18:36] <SeanChambers> anyone else have problems with a blank screen with a blinking cursor when I would expect ubuntu to start to boot up
[18:36] <escott> chrome_, first check the website to see if you want 11.04 there are big differences, but if you want to go ahead start upgrade-manager
[18:36] <coder2> Ok, thank you, bullgard4 and Dr_Willis. Bye.
[18:36] <rmatte> billybob: unfortunately Unity is too new... I don't have any tricks up my sleeve for that one, I'd just be googling around like you are
[18:36] <tensorpudding> MrTolkinghorn: i guess that sounds like a panic, but every panic that i've had, when it happens, it switches to the console and dumps a stacktrace
[18:37] <billybob> rmatte: ths anyway
[18:37] <chrome_> ok
[18:37] <katejones> @IdleOne - I put the Alternative Ubuntu on my USB, that won't boot at all..?
[18:37] <chrome_> escott: but I guess 11.04 is better
[18:37] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: Please describe your situation in greater detail and the error messages you obtained.
[18:38] <bonhoffer> when coding in bash, what if i want to see line 10 of a text file
[18:38] <IdleOne> katejones: don't know how else to help. restate the problem you are having and someone else might have an idea.
[18:38] <bonhoffer> normally i open in emacs and do goto-line 10
[18:38] <escott> chrome_, drop into #ubuntu-offtopic and ask peoples opinions or just hang around and listen, some hate it others love it
[18:38] <rmatte> billybob: have you tried using Unity 2D?
[18:38] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: no error messages. after rebooting from intiail install, screen goes blank and there is a blinking cursor in the top left
[18:38] <Devil999> chrome_, now i have my doubts.
[18:38] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: left it sitting there for 10 minutes with no change
[18:38] <billybob> rmatte: no how do i do that?
[18:38] <chrome_> Devil999: why
[18:38] <akharris> Any1 here know how to use HDA Analyzer?
[18:38] <rmatte> billybob: apt-get install unity-2d
[18:39] <rmatte> then it'll be available in the list of session in your login manager
[18:39] <katejones> tried to install regular Ubuntu on notebook without cd drive so from USB = got MFD error and ubuntu wouldn't fully load (not live and no install). Put the iso on the USB with the Universal Windows installer thingie - no errors
[18:39] <rmatte> so just logout, select it, and log back in
[18:39] <rgb247> how can I undo deletion from terminal?
[18:39] <billybob> rmatte: then will it be a log in choice?
[18:39] <rgb247> I accidentally typed rm /* from root
[18:39] <iceroot> rgb247: with your backup
[18:39] <rmatte> billybob: yeh
[18:39] <billybob> rmatte: thks again
[18:39] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: Have you got access to a virtual console? Press Ctrl+Alt+F1.
[18:39] <Devil999> chrome_, well, in my case i don't like unity, and am trying to stick with classic (gnome). but some features have been removed, like the tray bar, and the "widgets"
[18:39] <rgb247> iceroot: can you explain please?
[18:39] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: nope. tried that
[18:39] <rmatte> I have to take off for now, later
[18:39] <iceroot> rgb247: now you know why it is a bad ida to use the root account and also a bad idea not to have a backup
[18:40] <iceroot> rgb247: the explanation is that your files are gone forever you cant recover them (only if you do backups)
[18:40] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: it doesnt seem like grub is even loading. i do the standard install from cd to install 11.04, goes well and upon rebooting i just get a blank screen
[18:40] <escott> rgb247, its always fun to see what happens when the shell tries to delete itself
[18:40] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: it doesnt seem to ever start loading ubuntu at all
[18:40] <_raven> 11.04 + huaway usb + aldi talk - does not connect to mobile network - any known issues?
[18:40] <iceroot> rgb247: dont use root/sudo if you dont know what you are doing
[18:40] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: You can investigate your system using a Ubuntu Live CD or just re-istall your system.
[18:40] <Devil999> chrome_, it's the buttons on the left side all over again. canonical says it's better, and we have to stick to it, or walk away.
[18:40] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: i am on the live cd now
[18:41] <Pricey> I have an AR2413 and just upgraded to Natty. Everything goes fine for a certian amount of time before the card stops working. Nothing'll bring it back except rebooting into the old kernel. Does anyone have any ideas?
[18:41] <chrome_> Devil999: I see
[18:41] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: What does GParted say about the partitions?
[18:41] <bastien> Devil999, Hi ! Me I stick to Xubuntu
[18:41] <brous-kee> Pricey, is that a wifi chip?
[18:42] <SeanChambers> hmm
[18:42] <stefg> Pricey: looks like a firmware (loading) problem
[18:42] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: /dev/sda1 is full drive3 size, ext4
[18:42] <Devil999> thing is, with the buttons we could solve it easily. with these problems it's not that easy, at least not yet. let's wait and see.
[18:42] <_raven> 11.04 + huaway usb + aldi talk - does not connect to mobile network - any known issues?
[18:42] <Pricey> brous-kee: Yes
[18:42] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: /dev/sda4 is extended, /dev/sda5 is swap
[18:43] <Pricey> stefg: But it works fine for say 30 minutes before dying
[18:43] <cyberfr0g> ok, so with unity, is there a way to save the status of your desktop? to make it persistant between reboots.
[18:43] <Devil999> bastien, problem is that i've tried xubuntu, and i don't like it. i love gnome. and i loved my desktop. at least until 11.04.
[18:43] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: /dev/sda4 is 4gb
[18:43] <stefg> Pricey: do you know what kernel module is used for that?
[18:43] <chrome_> escott: how do I start the upgrade-manager? did you mean update-manager?
[18:44] <escott> chrome_, yes sorry
[18:44] <Pricey> stefg: ath/ath5k
[18:44] <brous-kee> Pricey, umm i find that newer linux-es have been lacking a stable i/o interrupt services recovery, mine get stuck at even Firefox stalling the download and the rest of system freezes
[18:44] <Acid190> Third time asking help for this. Java chat applet error. Have Ubuntu 10.10, went with icedtea web plug-in, did not work. All java web plugins installed and certs are configured. Here is the error.
[18:44] <Pricey> stefg: looks like i'm not the only one.. various reports on forums infact
[18:44] <katejones> IdleOne : Kojinsha notebook, 11.04 Alternative om USB, I het the installer boot menu but can't choose anything there (it reloads the boot choice screen except fro on ''test memory' 'which it starts to do)
[18:44] <djazz> no one here have experience with bluetooth? :/
[18:44] <Pricey> brous-kee: the card works for a while
[18:44] <akharris>  ANY1 HERE ON MACINTOSH AND HAS PROBLEMS WITH SPEAKERS?
[18:44] <LjL> !caps
[18:44] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: 4GB is not ample but may be enough. --  Can you find a file /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg?
[18:45] <brous-kee> Pricey, i know, its the interrupt service not recovering
[18:45] <escott> chrome_, PLEASE look at the release notes on unity and natty narwhal, we get lots of people coming in and complaining about how much they hate it
[18:45] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: on /dev/sda1?
[18:45] <Acid190> http://pastebin.com/Lh3AG4dP
[18:45] <escott> chrome_, or how it broke stuff
[18:45] <tonyyarusso> wow, fail
[18:45] <Devil999> djazz, yes.
[18:45] <stefg> Pricey: yeah ... ath5k...  have you tried to rmmod / modprobe -r the module and then modprobe it back in again? Does dmesg tell you anything?
[18:45] <katejones> akharris - I don't know for sure but I think you should install ALSA if I remember correctly (I'm sure there are more knowledgable people here..)
[18:45] <ubuntu> hi all
[18:46] <chrome_> escott: ok I'll check that out.
[18:46] <djazz> Devil999: bluetooth headset/handsfree/audio outputs?
[18:46] <Devil999> djazz, that not so much.
[18:46] <Pricey> stefg: will try
[18:46] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: On the partition where you or the installer mounted your root. Likely /dev/sda1.
[18:46] <Pricey> stefg: but not something i want to keep trying
[18:46] <LinXnut> hello
[18:47] <jamil_1> Hello ppl, I am having trouble with mouse click. Mouse click seems to drag the window...
[18:47] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: nothing in dmesg and no syslog file in there
[18:47] <jamil_1> I have unity....
[18:47] <djazz> Devil999: I can get it work, it appear in the soundcard list. But as soon I turn off bluetooth then on, it wont re-appear. I must delete the device then re-pair it
[18:48] <djazz> it says connected, but I cant choose it
[18:48] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: In that case I would probably try to re-install Ubuntu anew.
[18:48] <_raven> 11.04 + huaway usb + aldi talk - does not connect to mobile network - any known issues?
[18:48] <insta> hey guys i'm having a problem with 11.04 -- i just finished the upgrade from 10.10, no i have no touchpad on my laptop in either unity or classic, ideas?
[18:48] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: i've reinstalled it on that partition twice already with same results
[18:48] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: could grub not be installed correctly?
[18:49] <xangua> insta: press the key to enable/disable touchpad
[18:49] <Acid190> Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
[18:50] <insta> what are you talking about, to enable the touchpad?  what button?
[18:50] <xangua> !anyone | Acid190
[18:50] <katejones> @IdleOne - thanks for the help.. I think Ill just give up and stick to XP on this notebook, must be incompatible or something...
[18:50] <IdleOne> katejones: sorry I was not more help.
[18:50] <Acid190> xangua: have asked three times man
[18:50] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: I guess that your hardware is at fault or unsuitable. Did you check your hard disk, for example using GPrated? --  It is likely that Ubuntu installs Grub correctly.
[18:50] <katejones> Idleone - no problem, it's running fine on my Mac ;)
[18:50] <Devil999> djazz, sorry, i can't help you with that. i haven't been lucky with handsets and computers.
[18:50] <billybob> rmatte is there a way to change from classic to unity without login out?
[18:50] <IdleOne> katejones: good to hear.
[18:50] <djazz> lucky?
[18:51] <katejones> IdleOne - so dad has to stick with slow XP, I've had it with trying ;)
[18:51] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: i've installed 8.04 on this laptop before so I know the hardware is suitable
[18:51] <bullgard4> s/Gprated/GParted/.
[18:51] <IdleOne> katejones: maybe try with 10.10?
[18:51] <bullgard4> SeanChambers: A good point. Yes, then your hardware ist ok.
[18:51] <trailoryo> I just uninstalled the ati proprietary driver and replaced it with the open source driver. This fixed my original problem with choppyness, but now all of a sudden the sound is 100% broken. help!
[18:51] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: i'll try to reinstall again using gparted instead of letting it autoconfigure
[18:52] <katejones> IdleOne - Do you think that might work better? Ok, that's the last thing I'll try then. it's a weird small netbook though, touchscreen..
[18:52] <SeanChambers> bullgard4: i'll come back if it doesnt work. thank you for your help
[18:52] <Somelauw> Hi, how do I change lightness of the screen?
[18:52] <IdleOne> katejones: don't know for sure but worth a try.
[18:52] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: Laptop?
[18:52] <katejones> IdleOne - thanks!
[18:52] <bullgard4> Somelauw: This depends on your hardware.
[18:52] <Somelauw> yes, laptop
[18:52] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: What make?
[18:52] <Somelauw> hp 8530. Or do you want me to pastebin lspci?
[18:53] <Somelauw> Anyway the buttons aren t working.
[18:53] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: Nah. The brightness keys do not work?
[18:53] <Somelauw> So I was wondering if there is a commandline way to configure it myself.
[18:53] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw:  Click the power manager, go to preferences, and use the control there. Or, add the brightness applet to panel.
[18:53] <KBentley57> hey guys.  I just insalled 11.04 and updated to gnome3.  However, now when I try to log in I get an error saying "cn't update ICEauthority".  I can't login as my normal user.  Any ideas?
[18:53] <newb_> Hello! Wy my chrome window have minimize/maximize/close buttons at left if all my gtk applications have buttons at right side?
[18:53] <newb_> &Why
[18:54] <newb_> **why
[18:54] <Somelauw> JoshDreamland: hp 8530w.
[18:54] <JoshDreamland> newb_: What Ubuntu version?
[18:54] <chrome_> escott: Do I need need to upgrade to the version 10.10 before I upgrade to 11.04?
[18:54] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: Did you try the brightness applet?
[18:54] <newb_> JoshDreamland: 11.or
[18:54] <newb_> JoshDreamland: 11.04
[18:54] <JoshDreamland> newb_: Because everything in 11.04 is broken
[18:54] <billybob> how do i switch from classic to unity in 11.4
[18:54] <JoshDreamland> Without exception
[18:54] <insta> more updates: after plugging in a usb mouse, i can happily use my cursor. my touchpad doesn't show up in System -> Preferences -> Pointing Devices
[18:54] <xangua> KBentley57: you are on your own, gnome3 may break your system
[18:55] <xangua> billybob: on the log in screen
[18:55] <insta> JoshDreamland: am i to believe then that this was not ready to go gold :(
[18:55] <newb_> KBentley57: I think you can solve this removing .ICEAuthority file on your home directory (with root). Try this, but jut rename the file to backup it
[18:55] <bullgard4> !Unity | billybob
[18:55] <Somelauw> How to start the brightness applet?
[18:55] <MnCC> how do i add other desitinations to the Nautilus "Copy To" or "Move To" menu's ?
[18:55] <Somelauw> JoshDreamland: How to start the brightness applet?
[18:55] <daedaluz> !jaunty
[18:55] <KBentley57> i cant login as root either
[18:55] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: Right click a bare spot on the panel, click "Add to panel"
[18:55] <newb_> JoshDreamland: In my PC this work great, but at netbook this happened and I don't know why...
[18:56] <escott> chrome_, if you are on 10.04 yes you have to upgrade to 10.10 first
[18:56] <xangua> !root | KBentley57
[18:56] <daedaluz> !feisty
[18:56] <newb_> KBentley57: *just
[18:56] <escott> chrome_, if you don't want to upgrade you could see if there is a lucid mozilla ppa
[18:56] <daedaluz> !eol
[18:56] <xangua> daedaluz: you can play with the bot in private
[18:56] <oCean> daedaluz: please use /msg ubottu !feisty
[18:56] <JoshDreamland> newb_: Did you update one, and do a fresh install on the other?
[18:56] <daedaluz> !maveric
[18:57] <KBentley57> so how would I go about logging in to remove the .ice file?
[18:57] <MnCC> !maverick
[18:57] <AMAG> Is there a FAQ item or something for 10.x -> 11.04 upgrade, nvidia driver installed and "activated" (green dot on Additional Drivers tool) but "not currently in use?"  I cannot figure this out.
[18:57] <Somelauw> def hej():
[18:57] <Somelauw>     print "hello"
[18:57] <Somelauw>     s = 10
[18:57] <Somelauw>     if s == 10:
[18:57] <FloodBot2> Somelauw: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:57] <Somelauw>         print "repeat"
[18:57] <Somelauw>     
[18:57] <cba123> Does anyone know I can create and burn a BDMV to play on my PS3?  As in encode videos to a BDMV file-structure and burn it to a blu-ray?  I have a blu-ray burner, but not sure what to do with either.
[18:57] <ThinkT510> !botabuse | daedaluz
[18:57] <Somelauw> My terminal was messing with me.
[18:57] <passthru> ^^
[18:58] <passthru> first crash while running in Unity 2D after 24h of power on
[18:58] <passthru> ^^
[18:58] <newb_> JoshDreamland: Update in both
[18:58] <passthru> but i am liking :)
[18:58] <a111> I created a NTFS partition in ubuntu, but i cant read it on windows. How do i fix it?
[18:58] <Somelauw> Please remove zq again.
[18:58] <JoshDreamland> Somelauw: it's removed
[18:59] <JoshDreamland> newb_: That's really odd. Both had the same settings prior to the update?
[18:59] <passthru> a111, did you have really formated the partition or just made a "ntfs partition" entry on cfdisk ?
[18:59] <KBentley57> is there any chance of logging back in if it can't update the .ICEauthority file?  I can't get in with recovery console either.
[18:59] <a111> passthru, yeah, it has data on it.
[18:59] <a111> but windows 7 cannot read it
[18:59] <passthru> odd.
[19:00] <Froq> what driver will allow windows7 to read/write ext4?
[19:00] <a-saint> hello guys can someone please name me a good download manager
[19:00] <MnCC> none
[19:00] <rumpe1> a-saint, wget
[19:00] <passthru> a111, did you saw what fdisk -l returns ?
[19:00] <LjL> a-saint: my bot says The BESTEST download manager is aria2, because 2 people (67%) said so! Follow in order, kget (1 votes, 33%), jigdo, gwget, slimrat, wmget, fatrat, d4x, slimrat-nox, tucan, multiget, uget
[19:00] <Froq> what driver will allow windows7 to read/write ext4?
[19:00] <ThinkT510> Froq: there is an experimental ext2 driver for windows
[19:00] <passthru> a111, see if it really returns that partition as properly an NTFS-formated
[19:00] <MnCC> as far as i know, ext2 can be done ..
[19:01] <DestroiTe> I upgraded to 11.04 and now I get no sound from the front audio jack (headphone jack)
[19:01] <cba123> Froq, Patience, don't ask and re-ask so quick
[19:01] <Froq> ThinkT510: o!  Perfect, thanks
[19:01] <xangua> Froq google windows read ext4
[19:01] <justyellowboy> It worked, thanks!
[19:01] <Froq> cba123: sorry.
[19:01] <Calinou> a-saint: it's a personal choice, but i like uget
[19:01] <ThinkT510> !google | xangua
[19:01] <MnCC> ThinkT510, how did your upgrade go ?
[19:01] <a-saint> rumpe1 Lji thatnk you\
[19:02] <BTice> Hello. I have a fresh 11.04 install on a Thinkpad T43. I added the Einstein game, but when I run it, the system hangs. I have to open a terminal session to kill it. It looks like it's trying to do a full-screen, but can't figure out the screen size, and rescales the Linux controls (upper right corner) off the edge of the screen. Any suggestions?
[19:02] <ThinkT510> MnCC: sorry? i think you have me confused?
[19:02] <a-saint> Calinou thank you
[19:02] <Calinou> wget isn't a download manager
[19:02] <Calinou> it's a downloader from terminal
[19:02] <Calinou> you can't pause the downloads/etc
[19:02] <taiyal^> why isn't Ubuntu 11.04 installer seeing any operating systems on my hard drive?
[19:02] <MnCC> ThinkT510, i have a ThinkPadL412 .. so i figured you might have upgraded as i did ? .. fingerprint reader broke down and some other stuff
[19:03] <burg> hello. i have ubuntu 11.04 64bit and every time there are two applications opened that have sound, i hear a load buzz (a lot of parazite sound) - is that a known bug? never had this problem with older versions of ubuntu
[19:03] <passthru> Calinou, theorically you can stop the download with CTRL+C and continue after
[19:03] <Owner> Raju: Are you still here?
[19:03] <stefg> Calinou: look at wget -c :-)
[19:03] <Somelauw> What is the name of the brightness applet? I am not using gnome.
[19:03] <passthru> Calinou, giving the same location to WGET with -c option
[19:03] <passthru> :)
[19:03] <Calinou> >.<
[19:03] <Calinou> sorry, i'm a linux noob
[19:03] <passthru> boo :)
[19:03] <ThinkT510> MnCC: i never upgrade, i always install afresh
[19:03] <passthru> np Calinou, we all are :)
[19:04] <DestroiTe> upgraded to 11.04 and now I cannot get sound from the front audio jack (headphones)
[19:04] <MnCC> ThinkT510, yeah .. thats what im gonna do the next time ... =)
[19:04] <ThinkT510> MnCC: never really tried using the fingerprint reader under ubuntu, got it working in fedora though (a while back with my t60)
[19:05] <wal3> where is the difference between: initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic-pae and without pae?
[19:05] <xskydevilx> I'm trying to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu, and what filesystem should I use for the "/" (root) partition?
[19:05] <MnCC> ThinkT510, on 10.10. it worked perfectly
[19:05] <DestroiTe> xskydevilx: i used ext4 and never had problems
[19:05] <rodonsidh> hi guys! i've got a little problem with the update to 11.04 ... everytime i try to update it just downloads the two update-files but nothing is happening afterwards... any ideas?
[19:05] <ajf> help. all links open in firefox from external apps
[19:05] <ajf> yet chrome is default
[19:05] <ajf> ??
[19:05] <ThinkT510> !pae | wal3
[19:05] <DestroiTe> xskydevilx: but you won't be use the root partition under windows
[19:05] <passthru> xskydevilx, atm i'm using brtfs (experimental) w/o problems :)
[19:05] <tomasz> ajf what app?
[19:05] <escott> xskydevilx, you won't be able to access ext4 from windows, if you want to share files between the two you need to create a third partition (ntfs) just for sharing
[19:06] <ajf> tomasz: terminal and skype
[19:06] <wal3> ThinkT510: ah ok. but the pae version does not boot thus i have 4gb
[19:06] <ajf> I click a link, firefox opens, chrome SHOULD open
[19:06] <tomasz> ajf look in prefered programs
[19:06] <MnCC> ThinkT510, did you have problems with hdd ticking ?
[19:06] <taiyal^> Why can't the Ubuntu installer see my partition layout even though "fdisk -l /dev/sda" sees it just fine?
[19:06] <newb_> JoshDreamland: This is the most strange: previous update chrome was working good....
[19:06] <tomasz> in preferencies or administrations
[19:06] <DestroiTe> does anyone know why front audio jack has no sound after upgrade?
[19:06] <J697> I want to make a launcher on OpenSUSE (I know, but nobody will help me on their channel), I want to make a launcher that will launch a jar application (Minecraft to be specific) and I made the launcher browsed for the jar file and made it, but when a double click on it, it does nothing O_O Can anyone please help?
[19:06] <xskydevilx> And does anyone know pros and cons of the JFS file system?
[19:06] <ThinkT510> MnCC: no
[19:06] <ajf> tomasz: ah, thanks!
[19:07] <newb_> JoshDreamland: I always use chrome, but just now the buttons simple changed their sided :_(
[19:07] <MnCC> ThinkT510, nvm then ..
[19:07] <xangua> !ubuntu | J697
[19:07] <uwex> test
[19:07] <deadpulse> Hi, I am having some problems with pulseaudio, sound gets muted every 5 seconds. I tried googling, but couldn't find much.
[19:07] <skullboy> how do i password the GRUB2 menu
[19:08] <Acid190> xangua:you read my pastebin? Make any sense of it?
[19:08] <ThinkT510> MnCC: sorry i'm not that helpful, but i have found the thinkpad t series very reliable
[19:08] <JoshDreamland> newb_: Which update? Also, are you sure there isn't a separate setting in chrome that wasn't just misconfigured? (Don't know why there would be)
[19:08] <J697> xangua, I know I fact I am just experimenting with different distros right now, I have always used Ubuntu, but 11.04 seemed to slow my computer down greatly :(
[19:08] <Owner> taiyal^: That might happen if the partition table is corrupted. see if parted is seeing the table correctly
[19:09] <BTice> I agree on Thinkpads, ThinkT510, though Natty isn't behaving that well on my T43.
[19:09] <MnCC> ThinkT510, .. i have my L412 working perfectly .. i mean .. everything .. except hdd .. but already found a fix ..
[19:09] <S-M-Gl> hello, any ideas why gnome 3 crashes and never loads in natty using the gnome3 ppa?
[19:09] <asfffsafs> hi
[19:09] <Falstaf> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my (other) linux machine, but it doesn't seem to be communicating with the monitor.  I am getting a blank screen.
[19:09] <brontosaurusrex> i would like to partition an empty usb drive properly for a backup of my 10.10 system, for a boot of natty? how?
[19:09] <xangua> S-M-Gl: because it could break your system
[19:10] <deadpulse> brontosaurusrex, gparted
[19:10] <J697> When I upgraded to 11.04 my computer was slowed down quite a bit compared to when I used 10.10. Is there any fix for this?
[19:10] <MnCC> ThinkT510, not really true .. im missing a keyboard layout for the L412 .. i used the T60 instead ..
[19:10] <taiyal^> Owner: yeah, parted gives me an error "Can't have overlapping partitions"
[19:10] <ThinkT510> BTice: i have natty installed nicely on my t40, though that's xubuntu; always prefered xfce
[19:10] <brontosaurusrex> deadpulse, ok, anything special to look for? or just two ext4 partitions?
[19:10] <passthru> J697, using Unity (new interface) or classic ?
[19:10] <r4ykid> A bit ironic, but how do i disable the autojoin to freenode and #ubuntu on XChat?
[19:10] <newb_> JoshDreamland: Tried the chrome configurations, but I just found "use system" and "use compact... (default)".  nut now you talked, I will try remove chrome preferences. let me test
[19:10] <grendal-prime> hey guys, i need to install 10.04 on a machine with no cd or usb boot support
[19:10] <J697> passthru, both of them :(
[19:11] <passthru> J697, odd. i have a legacy PC and using Unity-2D w/o problems
[19:11] <passthru> J697, for me it is quite faster than the past version
[19:11] <MnCC> grendal-prime, try installing on another machine .. swap out hdd
[19:11] <J697> passthru, my specs are nothing to look at though
[19:12] <Ascavasaion> I have heard that I can install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on an old AMD 1300MHz, 384Mb RAM and 20Gb HDD and then install a smaller desktop manager or something.  The installation is running and is at 63%.  HOw would I uninstall Gnome and get a smaller desktop running?
[19:12] <Owner> taiyal^: install testdisk http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[19:12] <Owner> taiyal^: you can install it thru apt-get. enable the universe packages to get it
[19:12] <J697> passthru, actually I think I might know why I had problems with it, was it because when the install was downloading and I had to skip some files? My internet went down
[19:12] <passthru> J697, i heard about some persons get problem while using acceleration driver on X with Unity
[19:12] <deadpulse> brokendatapoint, maybe a differente partition for /home as well, in case you want to try something else in the future
[19:12] <passthru> *got
[19:13] <jamil_1> Hello ppl, mouse is not working the way it should. Left Click seems to drag the windows. Right click any where in an application doesnt show the application specific menu rather the generic move/close menu
[19:13] <passthru> J697, maybe
[19:13] <Falstaf> My 11.04 isn't connecting to the monitor any ideas on how I can fix this.
[19:13] <WannaBeGeekster> Wow.  What kind of hardware is required to run Unity?
[19:13] <mdpatrick> How do I uninstall a package?
[19:14] <passthru> J697, try disabling 3D acceleration and switching to classic mode to see it continues
[19:14] <WannaBeGeekster> mdpatrick: apt-get remove packagename
[19:14] <taiyal^^> oh cute, Firefox crashes when I try to look up something in hte Google bar
[19:14] <ThinkT510> !uninstall | mdpatrick
[19:14] <M1> mdpatrick: or you can use the software center
[19:14] <passthru> i didn't have problems since i'm using a non-accelerated video card
[19:14] <passthru> and using Unity 2D
[19:14] <arand_> WannaBeGeekster: 3D accelerated graphics driver
[19:14] <kyubutsu> mdpatrick: use synaptic to find and install the package, or software centre if its just a single app
[19:14] <passthru> the only problem I had with this version was a annoying crash on unity :)
[19:14] <princej88> Hi,  I just isntalled natty on a dual monitor desktop, I was able to have multiple desktops before i installed the hardware drivers, now the monitors option just says unknown and cant detect monitors. Now both screens are mirrored and at low resolution. Any idea how to fix this. I even tried configuring the monitors through amd catalyst control center but no luck. Any ideas? thanks
[19:14] <J697> passthru, not sure if you know but on the Ubuntu home page the image shows when the thing in the top right corner is clicked, on my install the little thing covered up the whole screen, but on the picture it is minimized
[19:15] <DestroiTe> does anyone know how to fix the front audio jack not having sound?
[19:15] <Froq> http://www.linuxnov.com/ext4-vs-ext3-vs-ntfs-comparison-file-systems/
[19:15] <WannaBeGeekster> arand_ So now that I am installing the nvidia drivers then it should work right?
[19:15] <passthru> hum
[19:15] <arand_> WannaBeGeekster: Should, yes.
[19:15] <Froq> Can someone tell me why EXT4 has a smaller max volume size?
[19:15] <newb_> JoshDreamland: Reseted all (deeleted folder at home), but dont worked....
[19:16] <nbf> how do you disable the love handles
[19:16] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, it gets muted every 3 seconds?
[19:16] <nbf> it breaks eclipse
[19:16] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: no, there's no sound ever
[19:16] <passthru> brb some minutes
[19:16] <newb_> JoshDreamland: I will remove .g* folders now
[19:16] <WannaBeGeekster> nbf:  Sit ups.
[19:17] <nbf> I wonder why canonical as like "lets just make the next release break everything we can"
[19:17] <nbf> *Was like
[19:17] <JoshDreamland> newb_: What .g folders? The ones in ~/?
[19:17] <JoshDreamland> nbf: That one dude told them to
[19:17] <LjL> nbf: what are you even talking about, what are the love handles?
[19:17] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, did you checked alsamixer to see if they are muted? I have a similar problem, sound gets muted after 3 seconds of playing any sound...
[19:17] <newb_> JoshDreamland: yes, I have nothing to backup anyway... :(
[19:17] <Owner> I am not able to boot into windows xp after upgrading to natty. I am able to see the grub boot menu, but when i select windows nothing happens. the screen goes blank with only a cursor on the top left corner. I am able to boot into natty just fine. Can somebody help me?
[19:18] <DestroiTe> deadpulse:  yeah, i checked, nothing is muted
[19:18] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: it worked with 10.10... !
[19:18] <kyubutsu> LjL: he might be referring to the new scrollbar
[19:18] <magicianlord> what purpose does the scrollbar have?
[19:18] <newb_> JoshDreamland: yes, I have nothing to backup anyway... :(
[19:19] <magicianlord> the scrollbar makes you click twice instead of once
[19:19] <DestroiTe> this is so freaking sad, how could they break this
[19:19] <jamil_1> ppl help me!
[19:19] <newb_> JoshDreamland: do not worked :_(
[19:19] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, I hate pulseaudio. Does that happens only with the front jack?
[19:19] <taiyal^> you know what else is sad: from the live-boot mode, Firefox crashes when you try to access either Google or Bing
[19:19] <princej88> I have a dual monitor setup on natty, which was working fine before i installed the hardware drivers, now ubuntu wont detect the monitors and everythign is mirrored on both screen with low resolutions. I have tried changing the options in catalyst, but no luck. any ideas?
[19:19] <magicianlord> taiyal^: why?
[19:20] <jamil_1> mouse is not working the way it should. Left Click seems to drag the windows. Right click anywhere in an application doesnt show the application specific menu rather the generic move/close menu
[19:20] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: yeah, i can get sound from the rear jack. but i'm using alsamixer here
[19:20] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: it autohides, saving application space.. there is no 'clicking'
[19:20] <taiyal^> magicianlord: what, do you want a gdb dump?
[19:20] <wojei> Hello everyone, I have some questions related to updating from 10.10 to 11.04. Who could help me with that?
[19:20] <nbf> don't do it
[19:20] <magicianlord> kyubutsu: it has to be hovered to show up
[19:20] <nbf> 11.04 is broken
[19:20] <WannaBeGeekster> wojei:  Just ask
[19:20] <DestroiTe> wojei: do a fresh install or dont do it.
[19:20] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: precisely
[19:20] <magicianlord> it works for me
[19:20] <tolmun_> gstreamer-properties
[19:21] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: thought you had a complaint about it
[19:21] <deadpulse> nbf, what do you mean broken?
[19:21] <wojei> why fresh install?
[19:21] <nikolai_> hi, i've installed and removed xubuntu-desktop but it still appears in my Session list at the login screen - how do i remove this? it's also changed the way it appears (xfce icon etc)
[19:21] <wojei> DestroiTe: why fresh install?
[19:21] <magicianlord> kyubutsu: yes. things should always be there and not hide.
[19:21] <DestroiTe> wojei: upgrades are more bound to fail
[19:21] <user82> wojei, its a little dangerous if i may note that..mine crashed on boot afterwards(two machines)
[19:21] <xangua> !puregnome | nikolai_
[19:22] <nikolai_> thanks xangua
[19:22] <DestroiTe> wojei: for me, it worked out ok, but now little things like getting audio from my front jack are broken
[19:22] <DestroiTe> and i can't fix it
[19:22] <tolmun_> Its make webcam work gstreamer-properties
[19:22] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: ah, well.. the new phylosophy is about intuitive and screen space pixel saving
[19:22] <nbf> deadpulse: I mean usuability is in the toilet because all kinds of essential things don't work
[19:22] <nbf> like scrolling with the mouse wheel
[19:22] <deadpulse> nbf, like what?
[19:22] <nbf> and that's when you turn off the horrid unity interface
[19:22] <nbf> and use something that isn't early beta
[19:22] <wojei> My issue is described here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/155284   Essentially, I cannot even get it to upgrade
[19:22] <nbf> like class mode
[19:22] <nbf> *classic
[19:23] <magicianlord> kyubutsu: how do you remove this?
[19:23] <user82> nbf, they only tired to copy windows....windows has become so sucessful with early beta's! (sorry kidding)
[19:23] <taiyal^> Owner: how can I resolve the problem of overlapping partitions?
[19:23] <deadpulse> ahh, I didn't try unity. using lxde, no problems here.
[19:23] <wojei> DestroiTe: If I do go for a fresh install, is it possible to transfer all the settings over (quota, user accounts, etc...)?
[19:23] <tastywheat> Hi, I've recently upgraded to 11.04  - my problem is that the panel images in the theme aren't scaling/rotating properly and I can't seem to figure out where to tell it to do so any suggestions?
[19:24] <deadpulse> nbf, except for pulseaudio front jack not working
[19:24] <grendal-prime> yaaaa that aint an option
[19:24] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: i do not think that's possible in 11.04 | it's present even in classic session
[19:24] <newb_> JoshDreamland: ok ok.... this is kidding me. I removed ALL .* files from my home dir and that buttons are at left side only in chrome
[19:24] <grendal-prime> i want to try to pixiboot type thing/
[19:24] <grendal-prime> ?
[19:25] <MaxFrames> hello
[19:25] <Owner> taiyal^: did you install testdisk
[19:25] <MaxFrames> I have updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and now I have a problem with grub
[19:25] <deadpulse> wojei, yes, for most of settings and accounts. If you backup /home for example
[19:25] <MaxFrames> I need to choose a different default OS in the grub menu
[19:26] <kyubutsu> magicianlord: at least not in a conventional way ..
[19:26] <MaxFrames> in 10.10, I had solved with a nifty app called startup-manager
[19:26] <deadpulse> wojei, if you already have /home in a different partition, then just choose it to be your new /home
[19:26] <MaxFrames> now it is still installed, but does not work anymore
[19:26] <MaxFrames> can you help?
[19:26] <DestroiTe> when will we have an update that fix all this bs?
[19:27] <wojei> deadpulse: sadly I did not create a separate partition for /home directory. Besides home, could any of the configuration files be transfered
[19:27] <user82> MaxFrames, https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer worked for me. but i am sure someone knows the right file to do a text edit to change default
[19:27] <sary> Salutation
[19:27] <taiyal^> oh my god... is Ubuntu considering the "Extended" partition to be overlapping with the partitions contained within itself
[19:27] <magicianlord> DestroiTe: it'll be called 11.10
[19:27] <taiyal^> I think it is
[19:27] <a111> So what is the point of NTFS-3G if partitions created by it cannot be read by windows?
[19:28] <DestroiTe> magicianlord: ;)
[19:28] <deemeetar> hello guys, Is it possible to customize window organisation shortcuts(ctrl+alt+5 for example)? I want to make some of them in my taste(the previously mentioned ctrl+alt+5 i would like to be in centre but also a little smaller in hight.
[19:28] <MaxFrames> user82: thanks; there is surely a commandline way, but I do prefer the gui
[19:28] <ThinkT510> a111: it works fine for me, but that doesn't help you now does it?
[19:28] <xiamx> How to burn a video DVD? I tried Brasero, it only allows me to make a SVCD image
[19:28] <deadpulse> wojei, with a fresh install, nah. Only if you do it manually, as some app may use different config files, different syntax etc?
[19:28] <jamil_1> Why do I get this error: error in Version string '4:SVN-r25793-1': version number does not start with digit
[19:28] <JoshDreamland> heh
[19:28] <Monk> hello guys im new to linux and when imean new extremly new.. i installed this ubuntu 11.04 but it cause my laptop brightness too low
[19:29] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, reporting the bug is the first step.
[19:29] <Monk> and cpu over heated
[19:29] <Monk> is there any solution
[19:29] <Somelauw> Is there a way to start the brightness applet from terminal or something.
[19:29] <Somelauw> ?
[19:29] <a111> ThinkT510, Nope. Windows 7 cannot read the disk at all. I htink im going to have to reinstall ubuntu to copy the  data off the disk.
[19:29] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: where do I report?
[19:29] <taiyal^> "Could not launch GParted: failed to launch child process "gksu""
[19:29] <wojei> deadpulse: it sound really painful to get everything configured again. I guess I will just stick with 10.10 till 11.10 :)
[19:29] <taiyal^> uh oh
[19:29] <carandraug> Hi! On gedit when using the terminal on the bottom pane, is there a keyboard shortcut to move from the text editor are to the terminal and from the terminal back to the text edition?
[19:29] <Monk> i have toshiba satellite m500 laptop
[19:29] <NictraSavios> Hello Ubuntian :)
[19:29] <NictraSavios> Hows 11.04 hell going?
[19:29] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log
[19:29] <user82> MaxFrames, /boot/grub/grub.cfg in maverick..but check if its the same on natty(grub 2 so should)
[19:30] <MK`> Is it save to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 if I have more than one desktop installed?
[19:30] <deadpulse> NictraSavios, not bad
[19:30] <taiyal^> maybe everything's broken because of my installion media
[19:30] <taiyal^> I'll go try and re-burn onto a different disk
[19:30] <sary> Can someone kindly check / if you can post to forums under Firefox.
[19:30] <tastywheat> apparently i'm still using gnome-panel in 11.04 because I upgrade?  How do i switch to unity?
[19:30] <Monk> guys please check out my question here i really need help
[19:30] <NictraSavios> deadpulse, I feel so disconnected on Arch Linux. And OSX for work >.< Oh well, id help with the helping, but... my eyes kinda hurt from the scrolling O.O
[19:30] <ThinkT510> a111: you could do that with a livecd, no need to reinstall
[19:31] <deadpulse> wojei, what did you have to configure? cp the config files and manually replace them on the new install.
[19:31] <user82> tastywheat, either because of upgrade (no idea) or because you did choose the wrong session(login screen) or because 3d hardware is not present/configured?
[19:31] <Monk> hello is there any solution
[19:31] <carandraug> tastywheat, on the login window at boot, after selecting you name, choose ubuntu instead of ubuntu classic on the session drop down menu
[19:31] <JoshDreamland> Monk: Ubuntu has always given me problems with laptop brightness, and 11.04 is broken beyond recognition. I'm not sure anyone here can help, but I won't speak for them
[19:32] <tastywheat> thanks i'll try that
[19:32] <MK`> My laptop brightness is stuck on max and I can't change it, probably a similar issue
[19:32] <user82> JoshDreamland, which brand?
[19:32] <i_is_broke> how do i activate my nvidia driver. its installed just not activated?
[19:32] <wojei> I cannot remember all the things, I had grub password, grub boot menu edited, quota was set up to each user
[19:32] <Monk> what will happen if i install this elemetry OS i guess its same as ubuntu will that make any difference <JoshDreamland>
[19:32] <wojei> deadpulse: I cannot remember all the things, I had grub password, grub boot menu edited, quota was set up to each user
[19:32] <JoshDreamland> user82: Most recently, Sony. For some stupid reason, the graphics card controlled brightness. Monk's is a Toshiba.
[19:33] <JoshDreamland> Monk: What elemtary OS?
[19:33] <user82> ah ok JoshDreamland i had the trouble with samsung..lukcily 2.6.39 kernel will support samsung(finally)
[19:33] <xangua> Monk that is not supported here
[19:33] <Monk> ok
[19:33] <M1> i_is_broke: take a look at the "Proprietary drivers" under system settings
[19:33] <deadpulse> wojei, thats easy, just cp those config files. its not much at all
[19:33] <i_is_broke> ok
[19:33] <coz_> mongy,  "Jupiter" ?
[19:33] <coz_> mongy,  sorry
[19:33] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: i can't make this log
[19:34] <coz_> Monk,   "Jupiter" ?
[19:34] <Monk> i did install nvidia drivers but this cpu is extremly heated i forcefully had turn off <JoshDreamland>
[19:34] <Monk> yeah <coz_>
[19:34] <JoshDreamland> user82: That's a tasty bit of info; I have a samsung in the mail.
[19:34] <DestroiTe> deadpulse: after the killall i can't switch audio outputs
[19:34] <coz_> Monk,   how it is for you?
[19:34] <wojei> deadpulse: can I copy over /etc/shadow /etc/group ... too?
[19:34] <JoshDreamland> Monk: That sounds frightening
[19:34] <Monk> dont kno.. i guess if ubuntu doesnt work that will not work too
[19:34] <JoshDreamland> Monk: Did it work before you installed Nvidia drivers?
[19:34] <coz_> Monk,   it is ubuntu based for sure   but I havent checked out the 11.04 edition yet if it exists
[19:34] <Monk> no
[19:34] <princej88> hey guys, i finally got my dual monitor display working but now i can't login after restart! i know i am putting in the right password but it just keep coming back to the log in screen!
[19:35] <princej88> this is a new installation of 11.04
[19:35] <coz_> Monk,  is it based on 10.04 LTS?
[19:35] <coz_> ah I will goodle sorry
[19:35] <karthick87> Is it worth writing UCP examination?
[19:35] <Monk> so how do i solve this problem guys i have same problem with all the linux distros not only ubuntu.. i tried openssue fedora ubuntu 10.10 even but same others dont have brighness issue but super hot cpu problem
[19:36] <deadpulse> wojei, the group yes. Dont do that to the shadow, you will still need to create  the same user on the new install
 i dont know just read it somewhere
[19:36] <NGE01> I need help! ubuntu 11.04 front microphone works, but no rear. most needed rear.
[19:36] <Monk> im not too familiar with linux only starting out but
[19:36] <Monk> doesnt seem to work for me
[19:36] <bittin> Monk: welcome :)
[19:36] <Newbee> hello
[19:36] <Monk> guess i ahve to go back to same old windows
[19:37] <Froq> so you mean that EXT4 can handle a file that is 16TB in size...  what file would EVER come close to that size?
[19:37] <coz_> Monk,   mm  did you try  regular ubuntu or are you still on  Jupiter?
 :) thakyou
[19:37] <wojei> deadpulse, so every user will have to set a new password?
[19:37] <Newbee> I cannot upgrade maveric to natty because it says: "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade"
[19:37] <bite-android> hi, instaling 11.04. what should i set the mount point as?
[19:37] <Monk> no i tried ubuntu 11.04
[19:37] <Froq> bite-android: /
[19:37] <Froq> set is as "forward slash"
[19:38] <M1> Newbee: maybe fresh install?
[19:38] <Newbee> and it says something about packages und foreign packages. The only foreign packages I now about are the firefox 4 and libre office. How can I find out what to do?
[19:38] <bite-android> thabks froq. thats what i thought. what does it mean, for future reference?
[19:38] <deadpulse> wojei, every user wil need to be reacreate , so yes. Once they are created again, they'll use their old home/user dirs...
[19:38] <JoshDreamland> Monk: Have you tried the frequency scaler?
[19:38] <princej88> I can't log in after restarting ubuntu 11.04. It just keeps coming back to the login screen. any ideas?
[19:38] <Newbee> M1: I would prefere an upgrade, because I want to keep the things I have changed to my system
[19:38] <Monk> so guys is there any solution or i just have to say good bye to linux .. man this is bad .. i really like to work on opensorce platform but .. kinda frustrating
[19:39] <Froq> bite-android: it is the root of the drive, as it the very beginning of the partition/ drive and that is how the kernel will mount it.  The only time you would want to use /var, etc. is if you are going to place those directories in different partitions.
[19:39] <wojei> deadpulse: thanks
[19:39] <Froq> bite-android: make sense or not?
[19:39] <calamari> hi. it seems to take about 15 minutes, once I've disconnected, for the system to realize I've disconnected. can I change this timeout?
[19:39] <coz_> Newbee,  so you want to save that session...yes?
[19:39] <DosAmp> bite-android: / is the root of the Unix filesystem. you need at least a partition for this, everything else is pretty optional
[19:39] <Monk> no i havent tried that <JoshDreamland> im new to all that kinda stuff
[19:39] <tastywheat> hmm, that didn't change it...still running gnome-panel and not unity =/
[19:39] <JoshDreamland> Monk: Right click panel->Add to panel, choose Frequency Scale Applet
[19:39] <Newbee> coz_: what do you mean with save session?
[19:39] <M1> Monk: are you using a laptop? maybe you should try searching on the web for your laptop's model and if others have had the same problem
[19:40] <coz_> Newbee,  if the session is saved then when you restart or log back on the same applications and settings will open
[19:40] <Newbee> I want to keep my system as productiv as it is. But of course I would like some new software
[19:40] <bite-android> should i define a swap partition? i have two hdds, and i plan to boot ubuntu from this one and windows from the other.
[19:40] <deadpulse> DestroiTe, weird, so thats another bug you are logging with the two previous commands.  I don't know much about pulseaudio, all i know is I don't like it. Sorry and good luck
[19:40] <Monk> yeah i did ..and they do have same problem but no answer its quietpopular laptop model in ubuntu with problem its toshiba satellite m500
[19:40] <Acid190> My java chat applet web plug-in does not work, was wondering if anyone knows about this problem?
[19:41] <calamari> bite-android: swap is used to supplement your memory should you run out..
[19:41] <Newbee> coz_: Are you talking about M1 s proposal to reinstall the system?
[19:41] <berefeira> anyone elase having terminal issues e.g. slow ssh, screen?
[19:41] <bite-android> calamari, is it necessary? provided any and all personal data will be on an esata ext hdd.
[19:41] <coz_> Newbee,  no ,, as I understood you ,, you wanted to keep what you have on your desktop and be able to log out  and have it be the same ...yes?
[19:41] <calamari> bite-android: memory, as in ram
[19:42] <Monk> some fellow posted a long code and told to recompile kernel or something .. idint understand that one so .. no use for me.. i am totally new and how on earth im gonna recompile kernel
[19:42] <mastaofdisasta> hey guys, is /etc/network/interfaces deprecated in ubuntu 11.04? if so what's the correct way to configure networking?
[19:42] <takamoron> I've just installed Visual Python but I get a weird  error regarding GLX
[19:42] <bite-android> calamari, ah, whoops. i have 2gb ram, then
[19:42] <takamoron> Now that Ubuntu isn't using xorg.conf anymore i don't know how to fix it...
[19:42] <iceroot> mastaofdisasta: no its not but if you are using network-manager this is the wrong place to setup something
[19:42] <crasbe> xrandr
[19:42] <Newbee> coz_: No I meant, that I do not want to reinstall the system but upgrade it to keep it the way I configured it.
[19:42] <bite-android> calamari, so it translates into ram, more or less?
[19:42] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[19:43] <calamari> bite-android: then you're probably okay without it, but if your apps ever use more than 2gb of ram, you'd run out of memory at that point
[19:43] <Halt> Hello
[19:43] <coz_> Newbee,  ah sorry i completely misunderstood
[19:43] <Halt> my msn live account wont work with pidgin, help?
[19:43] <calamari> bite-android: yes.. basically a very slow form of ram
[19:43] <DosAmp> bite-android: unless you need support for hibernation, you usually don't need a swap file with 2 gb or more ram
[19:43] <Newbee> coz_: no problem. I was just wondering what you wanted to tell.
[19:43] <coz_> Newa,   well  upgrading ubuntu is consistently inconsistent.. but generally the settings should stay the same
[19:43] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello
[19:43] <mastaofdisasta> iceroot: Network-Manager is ok for wireless, but I'd prefer /etc/network/interfaces for wired.
[19:43] <DosAmp> hello Ultimate_Chaos
[19:44] <coz_> by the way guys,, where is the save session now in 11.04 ?
[19:44] <calamari> bite-android: I currently have 1gb of ram and 1gb of swap.. so with your ram only, you have as much memory as I do :)
[19:44] <mastaofdisasta> iceroot: I tried using /etc/init.d/networking restart and I got a message saying this was deprecated
[19:44] <bite-android> wel, the hdd is only
[19:44] <crasbe> hello DosAmp
[19:44] <iceroot> mastaofdisasta: service
[19:44] <bite-android> 20 gb, but i guess ill specify another two gigs or so.
[19:44] <iceroot> !upstart | mastaofdisasta
[19:44] <calamari> bite-android: you can also use a file as swap space, so if you find out you need it later, you can still do it
[19:44] <pr3d4t0r> Ubuntu server 11.  Sole OS on the system, it stops during startup; I think GRUB is waiting for input; can't see because the screen enters a graphical mode and none of the monitors here supports it.  How can I either change the resolution for that screen or prevent GRUB from asking for input?  Pressing Return goes into normal boot on this system.  Thanks in advance.
[19:44] <mastaofdisasta> ubottu: ohhh that's right I forgot about UPSTART
[19:44] <Froq> calamari: how do you use a file as swap space?
[19:44] <DosAmp> crasbe: psss, you're ruining my disguise ;)
[19:45] <Ultimate_Chaos> i have a question
[19:45] <mastaofdisasta> yes I know about upstart.  I totally forgot about it
[19:45] <DosAmp> what is it Ultimate_Chaos
[19:45] <bite-android> well, ud imagine that i can do it from gparted on a live cd later anyways.
[19:45] <bite-android> so i'll leave it as is for now.
[19:45] <Ultimate_Chaos> when i start my ubuntu i get the following message Disconnected from Plymouth
[19:45] <princej88> Hi, I can log in to ubuntu 11.04 through recovery console, but when I just try to log into ubuntu, it just keeps kicking me back to the login screen. please help.
[19:46] <Ultimate_Chaos> can i fix it?
[19:46] <crasbe> well
[19:46] <crasbe> at the moment you cant I think Ultimate_Chaos
[19:46] <crasbe> :D
[19:46] <rumpe1> takamoron, it's still using xorg.conf... if it's there.
[19:46] <Ultimate_Chaos> can someone else then? :D
[19:47] <calamari> Froq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How%20do%20I%20add%20more%20swap?
[19:47] <crasbe> type rm -rf / :)
[19:47] <Froq> calamari: thz
[19:47] <calamari> yw
[19:47] <DosAmp> kick in 3, 2, 1...
[19:47] <Calif> If your doing something like editing a file with vi, and you accidently cntl Z instead of quitting properly, how do you get back to that 'program'. (Keep getting messages about .swp)
[19:47] <tastywheat> so am i damned to be ugly UI unless i use plain color or 24pixel panels?
[19:47] <DosAmp> Ultimate_Chaos plymouth is the ubuntu splash screen, can you still log on?
[19:47] <iceroot> Calif: fg
[19:47] <nbf> crasbe: I'm doing that now but it's taking a long time
[19:48] <pr3d4t0r> Calif: rm yourfile.swp
[19:48] <iceroot> Calif: fg = pull a program back into foreground
[19:48] <nbf> yeah window management in ubuntu is just screwed
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> may i assume that live-boot will always boot into 2d plain version of UI?
[19:48] <crasbe> nbf: what takes a long time? rm -rf /? :D
[19:48] <nbf> fuck why did I upgrade
[19:48] <Calif> ah
[19:48] <iceroot> Calif: ah sorry dint read the whole stuff
[19:48] <Calif> it just does it chronologically
[19:48] <xangua> !ops | crasbe
[19:48] <JoshDreamland> nbf: Because you didn't think it could be this bad?
[19:48] <princej88> Hi, I can't log in to ubuntu 11.04. It just keeps kicking me back to the log in screen. But I can log in under recovery console. Please help.
[19:48] <pr3d4t0r> Calif: That means that you aborted vi withoug closing the file.  Just remove the .swp and edit again.  Any changes not saved will be lost.
[19:48] <Trashi> hi. im looking for an "unity error log" ... i did add some new applications into the launcher but it does not open if i try to launch an application... does anybody know how to find unity errors?
[19:48] <edbian> Does Ubuntu 11.04 use wayland for graphics?
[19:48] <pr3d4t0r> Calif: vi should also give you the option to (R)ecover the file.
[19:48] <MaxFrames> re
[19:48] <xangua> edbian: no
[19:48] <jussi> !danger
[19:49] <edbian> xangua: Will 11.10 ?
[19:49] <MK`> Ubuntu uses X Window for its window framework
[19:49] <hugleo> Hello
[19:49] <xangua> edbian: don't know
[19:49] <coz_>  be back in a bit
[19:49] <Calif> Yeah, I noticed something about that actually. I knew there was another way, fg was what i wanted, but I'm writing all these down
[19:49] <Logan_> nbf: I hope you didn't run that command...
[19:49] <MK`> They are planning on having Unity use Wayland but that is probably going to be after 11.10
[19:50] <MaxFrames> ok it kinda worked, but now I'd like to understand why StartUp-Manager does not work anymore, why it hasn't been uninstalled during the upgrade, and why I can't seem to be able to sudo apt-get remove it
[19:50] <edbian> xangua: You don't know or nobody knows yet
[19:50] <edbian> ?
[19:50] <hugleo> My Apollo printer is not being recognized on the 11.04 version
[19:50] <bindi> Logan_: it's not even possible to run that anymore
[19:50] <MK`> edbian: I don't think 11.10 will use it
[19:50] <bindi> Logan_: oh hmm dunno about ubuntu but some other systems have protection for that :)
[19:51] <Andrewx> Hello.
[19:51] <mastaofdisasta> I'm trying to restart the networking service in 11.04
[19:51] <edbian> MK`: Thank you
[19:51] <DosAmp> i'll only shed a tear about xeyes when ubuntu's ever shifting to wayland
[19:51] <MaxFrames> it might be my setup, but on my eeepc, ubuntu has become slower and less usable with every new version... :(
[19:51] <mastaofdisasta> restart: Uknown instakce:
[19:51] <Andrewx> How can I change my system's default run level in Ubuntu Server 10.10?
[19:51] <s5fs> Seeking recommendations for a cheap and small computer to use as a tiny web server.
[19:51] <iceroot> Andrewx: there are no different runlevels
[19:51] <mastaofdisasta> restart: Unknown Instance:
[19:51] <Name141> How would I convert the processors bogomips in to "what it can do and how fast?"
[19:51] <iceroot> !runlevel | Andrewx
[19:52] <s5fs> !Upstart
[19:52] <NGE01> I need help! ubuntu 11.04 front microphone works, but no rear. most needed rear.
[19:52] <MaxFrames> with v9, it outperformed winxp; now it takes 3 times as much to boot, for example
[19:52] <Calif> I got a msg to upgrade to natty, is that what you guys are talking about?
[19:52] <usalabs> FYI, if anyone is having problems with unity, unity can be switched out, and the classic desktop returned, personally, unity sucks, and I use the classic gnome desktop,,,,unity does not have the taskbar that is reliant in apps like cryptkeeper
[19:52] <Andrewx> So, how will I go about changing the init at boot to 3?
[19:52] <DosAmp> yes Calif, natty narwhale is codename for 11.04
[19:52] <Andrewx> Mess with upstart?
[19:52] <Calif> narwhale, nice ;p
[19:52] <[thor]> Calif: yes, be careful with your upgrade
[19:53] <[thor]> Calif: burn a LiveCD, or create a VM and test thigns first
[19:53] <Calif> ...
[19:53] <Calif> crap ;p
[19:53] <MK`> runlevel 1 is S?
[19:53] <kyubutsu> Calif: or.. you dont have to upgrade; remember, curiosity killed the cat
[19:53] <Calif> I did it earlier, so far all looks good ;p
[19:53] <MaxFrames> curiosity killed performance on my netbook ;)
[19:53] <DosAmp> [thor]: should i better backup 10.10 and install 11.04 from scratch?
[19:53] <[thor]> Calif: i only warn because i have had several thigns break ( including my 3D acceleration )
[19:54] <Calif> but I probably wouldn't notice for a month if it was broken somewhere, I'm still very much learning
[19:54] <Andrewx> So, how do I change my init settings?
[19:54] <Trashi> im looking for an "unity error log" ... i did add some new applications into the launcher but it does not open if i try to launch an application... does anybody know how to find unity errors?
[19:54] <Andrewx> I'm trying to go from GUI to terminal
[19:54] <Calif> I still don't know how to get my x window shit going, (running cli on ubuntu server)
[19:54] <MaxFrames> so, can anyone shed some light for me on startup-manager?
[19:54] <bluethundr_> hello #ubuntu desktop.. I notice that every time I reboot my "jaunty" laptop, it loses it's resolv.conf settings. how can i get this setting to persist through reboots?
[19:54] <DosAmp> Andrew131: sadly, only runlevel for this is 1
[19:54] <princej88> Hi, anyone know how i can uninstall ati catalyst drivers via command line. after installation I am not able to log in to the gui, and i believe the drivers are what is causing the problem.
[19:54] <[thor]> DosAmp: that's normally the best way to do things.
[19:55] <[thor]> Calif: startx
[19:55] <Calif> That would be local I guess I'm through ssh atm
[19:55] <Calif> although figuring out how to get it working remotely might be worth a go
[19:55] <Andrewx> How do I go from GUI to terminal?
[19:56] <jibadeeha> anyone here find that ubuntu doesn't shutdown properly - eg. it freezes
[19:56] <Andrewx> In Ubuntu Server 10.10
[19:56] <DosAmp> Andrewx: just switching? Strg+Alt+F1
[19:56] <Andrewx> I'm trying to have this at boot
[19:56] <Andrewx> Terminal rather than GUI
[19:56] <Lysi> Empathy doesn't show contact list. Known bug? Anyone? Thanks.
[19:56] <DosAmp> delete your login manager (gdm, kdm etc.) from your default runlevel
[19:57] <usalabs> if anyone is trying to use the passwords and encryption keys in Natty, there is a bug that won't allow uploading the key to a remote SSH server, it has been reported.
[19:57] <holek> hello, guys
[19:57] <Froq> usalabs: oo... so would that make sense to why I cannot SSH into my machine?
[19:58] <DosAmp> does ubuntu use tcp_wrappers (/etc/hosts.{allow,deny}) or firewall only?
[19:58] <jiltdil> channel for debian?
[19:58] <holek> I have a problem: My screen freezes but I can move my mouse. I can still interact with the desktop, but I cannot see any changes I make (ie. after clicking, etc.) I am running GNOME on Natty (not running Unity)
[19:58] <binox> maverick:  logitech dual action game controller.  recognized and working;   looking for gui calibrator.  terminal cannot locate jscalibrator package,
[19:59] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:59] <kyubutsu> !firestarter | DosAmp
[19:59] <Spaz_Dynamic> So, amarok and rhythmbox are both good programs, but I'm used to foobar2000 (windows only) if anyone is familiar with foobar2000, is there a linux native equivalent? It does run in WINE, but... I'd like to be native as much as I can.
[19:59] <holek> so, how do I refresh the display to make it work again?
[19:59] <usalabs> Froq: for now, I would use PuTTy, and set the SSH server to interactive keyboard access
[19:59] <kyubutsu> DosAmp: thats the wrapper
[19:59] <holek> without killing X
[19:59] <Froq> usalabs: alright, thanks!
[19:59] <Andrewx> How can I remove kdm/gdm>?
[20:00] <needlez> Spaz_Dynamic: if your talking about a good media player manager for ubuntu look into banshee
[20:00] <carandraug> Hi! Is there a keyboard shortcut on gedit to move between the embedded terminal on the bottom pane and the text area?
[20:00] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I've just intalled Unity 2D because I cannot get my driver to run correctly, and the borders of the windows look like if I was in Windows 95! Is there any way to change this?
[20:00] <DosAmp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_Wrapper <- i mean this. for example, arch linux uses this per default for sshd etc.
[20:00] <tiger_eye> what is the grub2 badram equivalent to grub legacy memmap?  I recently did a clean install of Natty (was Lucid), and it now uses grub2.
[20:00] <magicianlord> Does anyone know if PCmanFM is as stable when working with files and will not corrupt them?
[20:01] <binox> is jscalibrator obsolete,  i cannot install it  ,  says package not found
[20:01] <needlez> need to know if theres a way to get empathy to word wrap correctly when using IRC protocal??
[20:01] <brontosaurusrex> may i assume that live-boot will boot into some safe shell UI thingy?
[20:02] <DosAmp> tiger_eye: if it's just a linux kernel parameter, why not just change /etc/default/grub and add this as a default parameter?
[20:02] <xangua> needlez: empathy is very limited for irc
[20:02] <tiger_eye> DosAmp, I tried that.  it didn't like "memmap" as a kernel parameter.
[20:03] <Froq> what socket should I go with to connect an i5 processor?
[20:03] <holek> I have a problem: My screen freezes but I can move my mouse. I can still interact with the desktop, but I cannot see any changes I make (ie. after clicking, etc.) I am running GNOME on Natty (not running Unity). How can I refresh the display again without killing X?
[20:03] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:03] <tiger_eye> I used "memmap=0x10000$0x13c140000" in the kernel command in grub legacy.  same command in grub2 doesn't work. (for some reason, the ram in that address range--and only that address range--doesn't behave well)
[20:03] <needlez> xangua: ive noticed, but at the current moment it works nicely, just wish word wrap worked with it, cuz currently the only way to enable word wrap is to remove the list that shows who is in the IRC
[20:03] <JWay> mastaofdisasta, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:04] <mastaofdisasta> JWay: I tried but it says it's deprecated
[20:04] <daedaluz> any drawbacks in installing xubuntu-desktop instead of xfce?
[20:05] <JWay> mastaofdisasta, try sudo service networking restart
[20:06] <tiger_eye> I noticed /etc/default/grub has a "GRUB_BADRAM" line, but the documentation I found on it wasn't at all clear for me
[20:06] <madsailor> I'm considering switching from maverick to natty.  Would I be better off with a fresh install from scratch, or upgrading (obviously will be backing up everything in either case)
[20:06] <asdf_msc> hey, anyone know if there's a way to change the icon of a launcher that's saved to the new side panel?
[20:06] <Ascavasaion> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on an AMD Duron 1300MHz, 384Mb RAM and 20Gb HDD.  I am intending to change to Xubuntu desktop.  but on the first reboot after installing it stop booting and gives me this... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601832/   Any ideas please?
[20:06] <Omega> daedaluz: xubuntu-desktop also installs all the applications xubuntu comes with
[20:06] <mastaofdisasta> JWay: it says "restart: Unknown instance:
[20:06] <kyubutsu> madsailor: fresh install.. and use torrents for download
[20:07] <asdf_msc> madsailor: fresh installs are always optimal, but the upgrade is performing perfectly for me
[20:07] <nbf> fuck I hate 11.04
[20:07] <madsailor> kyubutsu, why torrent?
[20:07] <nbf> it steals your focus
[20:07] <nbf> midwork
[20:07] <FloodBot2> nbf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:07] <nbf> and doesn't give it back
[20:07] <nbf> so you can't save your work
[20:07] <mastaofdisasta> nbf: I'm starting to feel the same
[20:08] <JWay> mastaofdisasta, not sure then, sorry. Tried 'start' or 'stop' instead of restart?
[20:08] <Lcawte> Is there a command to pull open the distribution upgrade window?
[20:08] <mastaofdisasta> JWay: yea same message
[20:08] <asdf_msc> is there a way to change icon of launchers in 11.04 side panel?
[20:09] <eigba> Choosing ubuntu classic from the GDM login is the old gnome 2 correct?
[20:09] <escott> eigba, mostly
[20:09] <GarryFre> I mis-entered a repository in synaptic package manager and i need to edit out my error. The file is not in /etc/apt/sources.list like google sites said it would be, the error is in a different file. Anyone know where it is? I'm frustrated dealing with my frenemy google.
[20:09] <nbf> horrible, horrible release
[20:09] <eigba> I think unity is a nice for new people comming form mac/windows, however im not a fan
[20:10] <asdf_msc> nbf: look up the definition of opinion
[20:10] <JoseeAntonioR_> Guys, I'm having a great trouble. I have an Intel 82845G/GL video card, and it seems it doesn't recognizes my monitor. As a consequence, I cannot use Unity 3D, or change my resolution (it's stuck in 1024x768). What can I do in this case?
[20:10] <JWay> is there a way to stop cursor blinking in bash shell?
[20:10] <nbf> asdf_msc: you mean like when it steals the focus from an app and ever lets you click on a button again
[20:10] <nbf> so you get to force close the work you've just spent lots of time on
[20:10] <deadpulse> if the release sucks because of unity ,then it doesn't suck at all.
[20:10] <nbf> and can't save because it's a horrible, horrible release
[20:10] <sarthor> HI, i tried to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, but the internet went off or may be Machine restart or some power problem, but upgrade interrupted , I came to real mode with pressing M, I can ping Yahoo.com, i have an internet on my laptop now, but i can not upgrade now, it says, / not mounted, HELP
[20:11] <asdf_msc> nbf: really sounds like pebkac error to me
[20:11] <escott> sarthor, you are inside the initrd. you need to fsck your root filesystem first
[20:11] <escott> sarthor, that may be easier from a live cd
[20:11] <holek> I have a problem: My screen freezes but I can move my mouse. I can still interact with the desktop, but I cannot see any changes I make (ie. after clicking, etc.) I am running GNOME on Natty (not running Unity). How can I refresh the display again without killing X? *bump*
[20:11] <deadpulse> JoseeAntonioR_, maybe you want to have a custom xorg.conf file to manually set the resolution. Or use a monitor settings app to change it.
[20:12] <LjL> nbf: 1) control your language 2) it's not useful or helpful to just whine about the badness of the release. ask for specific advice instead, and if you just have to complain, do it in #ubuntu-offtopic - thanks
[20:12] <sarthor> escott, fsck / clean files and blocks.
[20:12] <kyubutsu> GarryFre: there is a software sources settings in synaptic
[20:12] <motazelewa> hey everybody
[20:13] <motazelewa> i have a problem
[20:13] <sarthor> escott, i did fsck /dev/sda5 it says clean fildes and blocks.
[20:13] <Emylbus> my roommate closed my computer while I was updating to 11.04, which crashed the comp (my comp crashes when closed, an issue i haven't gotten time to fix yet) and now I can't boot into my ubuntu partition
[20:13] <Emylbus> help?
[20:13] <JoseeAntonioR_> deadpulse I have tried creating and editing xorg.conf with the specs of my monitor, and it just makes my monitor go blank. I cannot use the monitor settings because my monitor is recognized as Unknown.
[20:13] <motazelewa> yes pleasr
[20:13] <ullas> howdy
[20:13] <anthony__> hi there.  any way to get unity to open folders?  I'd like to do something like <windows key> 'home' and have it appear as an icon
[20:13] <[thor]> !ask | motazelewa
[20:13] <queequeg1> Is there a console network manager?
[20:13] <ullas> anyone hearing
[20:13] <truepurple> Can one install drivers when running off a livecd?
[20:13] <nbf> asdf_msc: yeah well if you can accidentlly fucking permanantly disable mouse clicks in an app, with no way to return them, it's a pretty serious pebkac
[20:14] <motazelewa> why when i open some apps it just blink on the luncher and do not open
[20:14] <appHELP> hi, can anyone assist me in removing cups from my pc ?
[20:14] <motazelewa> ?
[20:14] <Cortex_> is there any way to change to the stable ubuntu version? it currently keeps crashing on me
[20:15] <holek> I have a problem: My screen freezes but I can move my mouse. I can still interact with the desktop, but I cannot see any changes I make (ie. after clicking, etc.) I am running GNOME on Natty (not running Unity). How can I refresh the display again without killing X? *bump*
[20:15] <magicianlord> Cortex_: you can try 10.04 LTS
[20:15] <deadpulse> JoseeAntonioR_, hum, the only way I see you get that resolution working is to keep tweaking the xorg.conf... read the xorg logs to see the errors and adjust it
[20:15] <zus> why would i be getting an W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[20:15] <nsahoo> how do I install applets for weather or cpu-scaling etc?
[20:15] <usalabs> anthony__: unity is very hard to customize, I would suggest switching to classic gnome desktop
[20:15] <zus> i get a few ot them
[20:15] <nsahoo> on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:15] <Cortex_> magicianlord: can i download it directly and apply it or do i have to do the livecd or usb install?
[20:15] <ladelai> holek try alt+f9 :>
[20:15] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: mount the partition, back up your data, download system iso, install.
[20:15] <asdf_msc> is there any way to change a launchers icon in 11.04 panel?
[20:15] <Soothsayer> how do I have two different wallpapers in a dual monitor setup ?
[20:15] <magicianlord> Cortex_: you should download it 10.04.2 lts and install it new from usb
[20:16] <holek> ladelai: didn't do anything :(
[20:16] <Cortex_> magicianlord: all right, thanks
[20:16] <LjL> nsahoo: the keyword is "indicator", that's what they're called now instead of applets. but there isn't many of them yet. but there is weather
[20:16] <magicianlord> you're welcome
[20:16] <LjL> !info indicator-weather | nsahoo
[20:16] <ladelai> no i guess not because its not a fullscreen window app
[20:16] <byrnejb> I have a mac powerbook model 5,2 (17" intel) that I am trying to boot using an Ubunt (11.0.1) live cd but when I select run from cd it just displays an undeline blinking cursor
[20:16] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:16] <ladelai> you had prob with
[20:16] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: mount the partition in windows? when i install from the cd, will it be obvious what partitions to install to?
[20:16] <nsahoo> LjL: thnaks
[20:16] <holek> ladelai: what was it you wanted to do?
[20:17] <holek> ladelai: aah
[20:17] <ladelai> minimize window
[20:17] <nsahoo> LjL: indicator-weather is pulling about 10 other packages!
[20:17] <usalabs> mastaofdidasta: try using sudo services network restart
[20:17] <anthony__> usalabs, but unity is so nice and shiny!  I also love the screen space it frees up.  I used to have all sorts of addons and customisations but it it all looks ok.  ah well.  I mostly use terminal anyway so it's no biggy
[20:17] <escott> sarthor, the best thing may be to boot the live cd then chroot into the system and resume the upgrade
[20:17] <LjL> nsahoo: probably Python libraries
[20:18] <nsahoo> LjL: yes
[20:18] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: the objective is to save whatever data you need before reinstallation, thats all
[20:18] <GarryFre> now i really screwed it up, time to delete and reinstall. :(
[20:18] <Ascavasaion> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on an AMD Duron 1300MHz, 384Mb RAM and 20Gb HDD.  I am intending to change to Xubuntu desktop.  but on the first reboot after installing it stop booting and gives me this... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601832/   Any ideas please?
[20:18] <leigh> can anyone help me setup my wireless settings for my laptop? ubuntu 10.1
[20:18] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: I was wondering about the reinstallation process, since the computer has already been partitioned by the previous time I installed, I can just choose to install into the partitions that were made?
[20:18] <holek> ladelai: nope, that shouldn't be a problem, as then I should be able to go to another workspace and use it properly, right?
[20:19] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: if there is no valuable data, then you can skip this step
[20:19] <byrnejb> is there anything special required to boot a mac powerbook from ubunto 11.0.1 live  cd?
[20:19] <tiger_eye> does anybody use "memmap" or "badram" in grub2?  I'm trying to understand how these work in grub2, but without much luck
[20:19] <holek> ladelai: which doesn't work
[20:19] <usalabs> anthony__: I agree, unity looks good, but still needs more work, to be fully customizable
[20:19] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: i think i will skip it, nothing important was on there, all of it is luckily on my windows partition
[20:19] <[thor]> byrnejb: there is only really one way to know for certain.
[20:19] <JoseeAntonioR> deadpulse How can I check that?
[20:19] <byrnejb> which is?
[20:20] <[thor]> byrnejb: why, doing it, of course.
[20:20] <henke> how do I configure (add/remove) indicators in unity? I installed the weather indicator but can't find where to activate it.
[20:20] <sarthor> escott, do not have cd now,  when i did apt-get update, so it says, /var/lib/dpkg/lock,  and dpkg --configure -a also says, read-only filesystem, I can i be root to access, while i am root here,
[20:20] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: i assume you want to dual boot, yes?
[20:20] <byrnejb> as I already wrote. when I try I get an underline blinking cursor
[20:20] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces? when I execute /etc/init.d/networking restart it says it's deprecated.  I try sudo service networking restart and it says "restart: Unknown instance:"
[20:20] <holek> ladelai: also, right now I am in tty on irssi, if I go to X's (alt+f7), I can see the screen not refreshed (can see irssi) and I can move the cursor
[20:20] <anthony__> usalabs, yeah seems like it's not finished.  bit of a shame.  really like it though.  I've only just realised that I have two file managers.  nautilus and thunar.  what's with that?
[20:20] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: yessir
[20:20] <deadpulse> JoseeAntonioR, sudo tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:20] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: alright, i think you can take off then
[20:21] <escott> sarthor, you could try remounting it mount -o remount,rw /
[20:21] <patrunjel> I want to install windows 7 (for moms :) ), but I would like to keep grub as the bootloader, is it possible to change the crappy bootloader from the_crappy_os_I_will_not_write ? :)
[20:21] <zus> how come  i get  no pubkey errors when  using synaptic manager to update  11.04? after puting  in ppa?
[20:21] <Soothsayer> how do I have two different wallpapers in a dual monitor setup ?
[20:21] <patrunjel> I don't want to know how, i just want to know if I can or can't :)
[20:21] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: you sure about dual booting though?
[20:21] <escott> sarthor, but im not sure how resumable the install is in runlevel1
[20:22] <escott> patrunjel, you will have to reinstall grub
[20:22] <usalabs> anthony__: no idea,,, I switched to classic desktop, after extensively testing unity, and found it barely usable, it's ok for simple usage
[20:22] <patrunjel> escott, is this thing simple to do? :)
[20:22] <sarthor> escott, Yea i did that, and it worked, now what is next step, i did dpkg --configure -a, and it is working... i do not what it is working...
[20:22] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: use torrent
[20:22] <brontosaurusrex> may i assume that live-boot will boot into some safe shell UI thingy?
[20:23] <MohammadAG> umm, is there a way to pin the unity launcher/bar?
[20:23] <escott> patrunjel, simple is a relative term... all you do is boot the livecd, bind mount the special filesystems, chroot and run grub-install
[20:23] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: the iso already installed from the website
[20:23] <MohammadAG> cause I'm pretty sure I pinned it by mistake, and can't move it away
[20:23] <Emylbus> like 8 minutes
[20:23] <ubuntu> happy to see ubuntu looking a little more modern now. if only it wasn't so slow
[20:23] <ubuntu> lacks a lot of customization also
[20:23] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: good. proceed
[20:23] <escott> sarthor, i guess run with it, see where it goes
[20:23] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces? when I execute /etc/init.d/networking restart it says it's deprecated.  I try sudo service networking restart and it says "restart: Unknown instance:"
[20:24] <escott> !grub | patrunjel
[20:24] <sarthor> escott, Ok. it is workign.. i am jsut watching the running text going up .
[20:24] <holek> ladelai: any idea?
[20:24] <patrunjel> escott, thanks :)
[20:24] <anthony__> usalabs, two things for me.  it always gets in the way when I want to go back in firefox.  damn thing's always popping up, so ideally it'd be on the bottom.  secondly (and this is more an issue with gnome than unity) I can't use arrow keys when alt-tabbing: I have to cycle through all the windows if I miss one.  most annoying
[20:24] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: just to make sure, I have a 64bit computer, i want the 64 bit of ubuntu right? is there any reason i would want to use the 32bit version?
[20:24] <usalabs> mastaofdisasta: try this:- sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[20:25] <truepurple> Can one put multiple versions of live CD onto one disk?
[20:25] <truepurple> Like say a DVD-R?
[20:25] <holek> ladelai: I've already tried auto-configuration by plugging in another monitor, that only refreshed the screen to black space with a cursor
[20:25] <escott> Emylbus, if you have a 32bit application you want to use, if you dont want to take advantage of 64bit features in your processor
[20:25] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: it says deprecated
[20:25] <escott> Emylbus, thats not to say you can't run 32bit applications, but they may run better in a 32bit os
[20:25] <LjL> !away > ugisozols_away    (ugisozols_away, see the private message from ubottu)
[20:25] <Emylbus> escott: what would you suggest I do?
[20:26] <kyubutsu> Emylbus: 64bit. be aware that you'll need install ai32-libs to obtain support to run 32bit apps
[20:26] <anthony__> usalabs, nice to chat.  am off now. laters
[20:26] <Emylbus> kyubutsu: noted
[20:26] <sarthor> How to categorize my self, i am Newbe, Just a user, Simi Expert or Expert in Linux.
[20:26] <usalabs> anthony__: laters
[20:26] <LjL> sarthor: ... why is that important?
[20:26] <leigh> how do I turn on my wireless?
[20:27] <damicita> how can i unlock panel in order to organize my icons ?
[20:27] <usalabs> mastaofdisasta:  you might need to sudo -s then enter password, and try services network restart as root
[20:27] <mastaofdisasta> yes I sudo everything
[20:27] <sarthor> LjL, Several friends asked me, Am i Linux Expert, So i was unable to answer the, because i do not know, i am newbe or expert etc.
[20:27] <truepurple> Can one put multiple versions of live CD onto one disk? Like say a DVD-R?
[20:28] <binox> is there a gui to calibrate a joystick/gamepad.    i cant install jscalibrator  -pakage not found?
[20:28] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: yes I sudo everything
[20:28] <LjL> sarthor: it seems a silly distinction to make to me, but anyway try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic, it's a bit out of place here
[20:28] <usalabs> sudo -s gives you a root command prompt
[20:28] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: I do sudo su
[20:28] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: it gives me a root prompt
[20:28] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: but the result is the same
[20:29] <LjL> mastaofdisasta: sudoing everything is an awful idea, and you should normally use "sudo -i" not "sudo su", as the latter is redundant and doesn't set up the environment correctly
[20:29] <mastaofdisasta> usalabs: I think this has to do with upstart in 11.04
[20:29] <usalabs> mmm, it maybe a bug that needs reporting to launchpad
[20:29] <sarthor> LjL, Ok. again i got help here, now i will go to #ubuntu-offtopic , Again thanks to ubuntu. you guys really helped a lot.
[20:29] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, One could, but if one did, how would the system know which one to boot to?
[20:29] <holek> meh, I just killed my X
[20:29] <holek> thanks for nothing
[20:29] <ZzTribble> Anyone else having lag on compiz after uptime for a day or so
[20:29] <jamil_1> Help! I have to keep pressing alt key to perform normal left-click operations....I am on recently upgraded 11.04 system...
[20:29] <truepurple> Sidewinder1: Why ask me, I don't know
[20:30] <mastaofdisasta> LjL: good tip, but I think the issue here doesn't have anything to do with execution.
[20:30] <ZzTribble> Also nautilus is heavily leaking memory on my system.
[20:30] <mastaofdisasta> LjL: good tip, but I think the issue here doesn't have anything to do with execution priviledges
[20:30] <kyubutsu> binox: 11.04 repositories do not have this package. you will have to consider manually adding it
[20:30] <damicita> can get t o organize my icons
[20:30] <damicita> can't
[20:30] <nikolai`>  anyone notice a delay clicking the Unity panel menu that activates Dashboard on a netbook?
[20:30] <LjL> mastaofdisasta: probably not, i wasn't really following, just caught the sudo references
[20:30] <binox> im on maverick, and not upgrading
[20:30] <truepurple> Sidewinder1: There might be a way though, i mean one can dual boot, so surely one can do that with disks too
[20:30] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, It was an answer to your question. ;-)
[20:30] <binox> kyubutsu,  im on maverick and not upgrading,  is that also the issue with mav
[20:30] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, The answer os no.
[20:31] <Sidewinder1> is
[20:31] <binox> kyubutsu,  do you know the ppa by chance
[20:31] <Rehan> whats with the un-regged channel all of a sudden
[20:31] <truepurple> Sidewinder1: What burner program would you recommend for ubuntu?
[20:31] <Sidewinder1> truepurple, Brasero isn't bad.
[20:32] <ZzTribble> nikolai`: you might be having an issue similar to me.. when i move windows around, wobbly windows lags. But only if i havent restarted in a day or so
[20:32] <Superstar> How do I change the global background in the workspace switcher?
[20:32] <slinker1> Rehan: apparently some bad mannered bots
[20:32] <ZzTribble> nikolai`: so i guess the question is.. does it always do it?
[20:32] <truepurple> Sidewinder1: Have you used it?
[20:32] <victorhugo289> Today I installed Ubuntu 11.04 and I got this error: "It seems you don't have the necessary hardware to run Unity, choose the classic Ubuntu"
[20:32] <Rehan> slinker1: true haha
[20:32] <nikolai`> ZzTribble, yes - there's always several seconds in delay opening up the Unity dashboard on my netbook.
[20:32] <usalabs> I use K3b, even though it uses the KDE libraries, it's still a good burner with a lot of templates to use
[20:32] <ZzTribble> Hmm ok im not sure then
[20:32] <binox> victorhugo:  search for the ppa for unity 2d,  will work wonderful
[20:33] <ZzTribble> I want to blame compiz bugs
[20:33] <victorhugo289> My computer is a Pentium 4, @2Ghz, 1GB ram, with 128MB video, what's going on??
[20:33] <kyubutsu> binox: unfortunately i do not know this package's ppa
[20:33] <victorhugo289> @BINOX, really??
[20:33] <LjL> victorhugo289: it depends on the video card
[20:33] <LjL> victorhugo289: 128MB sounds like it's probably an old card
[20:33] <LjL> victorhugo289: i have a card with 512MB, and it's still too old to be supported for Unity, so ;)
[20:34] <victorhugo289> No way, dude!!
[20:34] <ZzTribble> victorhugo289: That is pretty old. It might be too old for all of unity.
[20:34] <jdahm> when I go to google.com in firefox on 11.04 it defaults to a really weird language with some really really weird character set
[20:34] <kyubutsu> binox: also, i do not know the current situation in maverick as i am using 11.04
[20:34] <victorhugo289> So I can't have Unity then?
[20:34] <Sidewinder1> truepurple,  Yes, although sometimes it gives me multiple error messages that "it couldn't" but in spite of the messages it does...Go figure.
[20:34] <binox> yeah,  google untiy 2d  and use terminal to add the ppa,  then istall it at login,  you can choose the 2d interface  if you dont want to stay with the gnoe interface
[20:34] <LjL> victorhugo289: well you can install unity-2d
[20:34] <ZzTribble> victorhugo289: you shouold be able to do like a lowquality unity or something
[20:34] <LjL> !info unity-2d | victorhugo289
[20:34] <ZzTribble> yea like LjL said..
[20:34] <jdahm> it has something like ?hl=chr
[20:34] <binox> victorhugo,  yes you can just without the 3d effects,  it depends on your graphics card
[20:34] <LjL> binox: is there a reason why to use the PPA? is it more recent than the version included in the repos?
[20:35] <jdahm> no clue what language that is.  Anyone fixed that?
[20:35] <victorhugo289> ok, I look that up in the Software center, Ubottu??
[20:35] <ZzTribble> victorhugo289: Terminal.. sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[20:35] <ZzTribble> ya?
[20:35] <victorhugo289> Alright.
[20:35] <binox> ljl ,  i dont believe its in the install,  if im not mistaken its not canonical,  but it works great if you are haveing unity 3d issues
[20:35] <IdleOne> victorhugo289: or the software center, yes.
[20:35] <binox> ther you go
[20:35] <kyubutsu> LjL: binox states that package is not found in maverick
[20:35] <usalabs> unity works good with the recommended Nvidia drivers for the GeForce 7600 GS 512MB
[20:36] <ZzTribble> victorhugo289: i just checked its in software center too
[20:36] <binox> i didnt know it was there.   it must be in final release
[20:36] <ZzTribble> i wasent sure if they listed it there
[20:36] <_Neytiri_> how do i add a user with a home dir different form the default location
[20:36] <JoseeAntonioR> How do I hide the Unity Launcher?
[20:36] <hugleo> My Apollo printer is not being recognized by the cups. 10.10 version is working ok.
[20:36] <LjL> binox, if ubottu says it's in Main, then it's there, and by Canonical ;)
[20:36] <IdleOne> !classic | JoseeAntonioR
[20:36] <binox> nice
[20:36] <LjL> kyubutsu: ah i thought we were talking about Natty though
[20:36] <binox> it wasnt there in the alpha. now it is.
[20:36] <Inphernal> Woahh, security
[20:36] <LjL> binox: i see
[20:36] <kyubutsu> LjL: is also not found in natty
[20:37] <dynoboyz> Hello, why my ntfs partition unrecognized?
[20:37] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: Does it exist?
[20:37] <LjL> kyubutsu: uh, check again... maybe you need to sudo apt-get update? seriously, if the bot says it's there, it's quite definitely there
[20:37] <dynoboyz> yes, use Gparted before
[20:37] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: seriously though, have you checked for it with gparted or something?
[20:37] <ZzTribble> o ok
[20:37] <JoseeAntonioR> I don't want to return to GNOME, I'm just asking because my Launcher doesn't auto-hide
[20:37] <ZzTribble> then how is it not recognized?
[20:38] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: Like.. What is it not recognizing.. Like in nautilus?
[20:38] <dynoboyz> when im using gparted to resize it, my electricity turn off sudenly
[20:38] <usalabs> JoseeAntonioR: logging out and changing the session at login is not permanent, you can make the classic desktop permanent, byt running the app called 'Login Screen', then change the session there to classic
[20:38] <binox> coolanyone know the package repository for jscalibrator or a similar gui for game controllers
[20:38] <victorhugo289> I had no idea I was gonna face this problem, but I did notice that when I put the LIVE CD in and let it run I didn't see the Side bar that everybody is talking about. This Ubuntu 11.04 looks pretty much exactly like 10.04 to me. Dang!
[20:38] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: ... That could have destroyed the partition
[20:38] <kyubutsu> LjL: fair enough. i take your word on it
[20:38] <xteejx> I'm using Natty, and need to do something. From the readme.txt for the program: "copy the approximate nearest neighbors (ANN) shared library at BASE_PATH/bin/libANN_char.so (Linux/cygwin) or BASE_PATH/bin/ann_1.1_char.dll (Windows VS2005) to a location in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH (or add BASE_PATH/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH)" anyone able to help?
[20:38] <dynoboyz> that mean I lost my data??
[20:38] <escott> dynoboyz, ouch you need to rescue with windows, but you are looking at restore from backup as the most likely result here
[20:38] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: Your best bet is to attempt data recovery.
[20:38] <victorhugo289> Need a new computer. :S
[20:38] <victorhugo289> !
[20:39] <madsailor> binox, the jscal package is listed as in the maverick repo here :http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/jscal.1.html
[20:39] <JoseeAntonioR> I DO NOT want the classic desktop. I want the Unity bar that is on the side to auto-hide. I am NOT using the classic desktop.
[20:39] <jibadeeha> at last i have got to the bottom of ubuntu freezing on shutdown .. now a happy chappy
[20:39] <binox> madsailor,  thank you
[20:39] <miarroba> hola?
[20:39] <madsailor> np
[20:39] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[20:39] <xteejx> anyone able to help with this linking stuff please?
[20:39] <escott> !es | miarroba
[20:39] <Rehan> JoseeAntonioR: download compiz settings manager, in there that options exists under Unity Tweak
[20:39] <JoseeAntonioR> Para español entre al canal #ubuntu-es
[20:39] <ddd-222> on ubuntu 10.10 i am setting up autofs.
[20:39] <ddd-222> I was able to properly configure direct
[20:39] <ddd-222> and Indirect NFS file systems When I try
[20:39] <ddd-222> CIFS  I can get it to work directly.
[20:39] <ddd-222> When I tried to get it to work indirectly
[20:39] <FloodBot2> ddd-222: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: It could get messy. There are also some easier applications in the ubuntu software repos
[20:39] <Rehan> JoseeAntonioR: CompizConfig Settings Manager
[20:40] <JoseeAntonioR> What is the package name for Compiz Settings Manager?
[20:40] <praveen> i am sharing files with my friends on lan..but i am not able to see all shared computers , i am able to see only some of the computers.what is wrong??
[20:40] <Rehan> JoseeAntonioR: ccsm
[20:40] <tiger_eye> aha!  the dollar sign in "memmap" command in grub2 needs to be escaped twice in /etc/default/grub, such as GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX='memmap=0x10000\$0x13c140000' or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="memmap=0x10000\\\$0x13c140000".  Not very clear from the documentation.  I think it's working now, so peace out!
[20:40] <Calif> If I've got an ip that changes but its a public ip on my linux machine, AND I want to get a dns name for it... say through some service such as dydns/noip - what kind of options do I have?
[20:40] <ZzTribble> praveen: Are they windows computers?
[20:40] <praveen> yes
[20:40] <ZzTribble> or linux?
[20:40] <ZzTribble> ok
[20:40] <ZzTribble> praveen: Is samba setup correctly on your pc?
[20:40] <JoseeAntonioR> Terminal says it is unable to locate package ccsm
[20:40] <dynoboyz> i have try some software
[20:41] <dynoboyz> but still cant
[20:41] <escott> Calif, i think you just said your main options there
[20:41] <xteejx> how do I find out what is in my LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and hwo do I add something to it?
[20:41] <LjL> xteejx: echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[20:41] <Calif> ok, so I guess ill look into whether they have a good client for linux/ubuntu
[20:41] <xteejx> LjL Thanks
[20:41] <aauthor> Hello everyone, I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask this... but... I just installed gnome3 on ubuntu 11.04, however, when I attempt to log in I always get a "could not update /home/tom/.ICEAuthority.  I've checked to make sure that my user and it's group is the owner (and they are) what else could be wrong?
[20:41] <Rehan> JoseeAntonioR: i installed ubuntu-tweak first and then used that to setup CCSM. ubuntu-tweaks has a lot of good features in it besides that. google the download site for it.
[20:41] <escott> Calif, usually you just send a request to their servers and they update the dns entry, doubt you even need a client for that
[20:41] <ZzTribble> dynoboyz: you may have lost everything. Hopefully have backups or find professionals to recover it, hard to say how much can be saved from a half edited partition
[20:41] <praveen> i think so,actually some of them are able to access my computer and able to copy the files...but some are saying i am not able to see your computer on lan??
[20:41] <Zorlin> aauthor: This is a great place to ask this :)
[20:42] <Zorlin> Its the #ubuntu support channel, after all.
[20:42] <aauthor> Thanks Zorlin, I just know that gnome 3 isn't supported yet. :D
[20:42] <LjL> aauthor: i rebooted, and magically that problem got fixed
[20:42] <xteejx> LjL: Nothing came up when I did $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[20:42] <ZzTribble> praveen: Most likey an issue on the individual windows computer then.. check security settings
[20:42] <xteejx> *echo $LD....
[20:42] <usalabs> JoseeAntonioR: try searching it in the package manager (ubuntu software center), I tried the search in there and it found it under ccsm
[20:42] <calamari> hi.. I did /etc/init.d/ssh stop .. and then pkill'ed sshd.. and sshd started running again. the only way I could stop it was by renaming the sshd executable. what is causing this?
[20:42] <escott> Calif, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[20:42] <Zorlin> aauthor: Oh, good point, haha. Still might get away with it, just be super-patient since there's no obligation to help ;p
[20:42] <damicita> no puedo organisar mis iconos ?
[20:43] <Zorlin> aauthor: But as LjL said, have you tried rebooting?
[20:43] <ZzTribble> calamari: I feel like ssh has some sort of keepalive
[20:43] <ZzTribble> i'm not an expert on it though lol
[20:43] <aauthor> Thanks LjL. I've tried rebooting, and I still have the same trouble.
[20:43] <LjL> xteejx: for me either. i guess it's empty? to add stuff to it (but only temporarily), export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:new_entry"
[20:43] <JoseeAntonioR> http://imagebin.org/151187 That bar in the side doesn't auto-hide. What do I need to do?
[20:43] <JoseeAntonioR> !es
[20:43] <xteejx> LjL Cool thanks
[20:43] <wli> I'm having trouble git cloning git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git because the remote end hangs up unexpectedly.
[20:43] <LjL> aauthor: no doubt it's also +rw for tom?
[20:43] <naryfa> Hi, does anybody know how to change output frequency in Ubuntu? My card is capable of 24bit 192kHz but I don't know where to set this
[20:44] <praveen> ZzTribble: but when i switched to window , i am able to see all shared computers on lan....so this is little bit confusing for me!!!
[20:44] <wli> Is there an http git URL I can use instead?
[20:44] <ZzTribble> calamari: im pretty sure its controlled by upstart which would explain it
[20:44] <LjL> naryfa, i believe that depends on the program you're using. but i can give you a command line to see if the driver is actually capable of that, a moment
[20:44] <usalabs> I found the unity bar only auto hides when a window is open full screen, but did you try the launcher & menu settings in the system preferences?
[20:44] <ZzTribble> praveen: It could be an issue on either end..
[20:44] <naryfa> LjL: ok
[20:44] <calamari> ZzTribble: thanks.. that gives me a place to look!
[20:44] <ZzTribble> calamari: mhm
[20:44] <Inphernal> Hell all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step
[20:45] <Inphernal> Hey* haha
[20:45] <jdl> im having trouble installing android sdk
[20:45] <ZzTribble> praveen: Perhaps an issue w/ the version of windows. Or some random samba issue
[20:45] <LjL> naryfa: type "arecord -f dat -r 192000 -D hw:0,0 -d 5 test.wav" and see if it gives you any warning
[20:45] <_Neytiri_> how do i add a user with a home directory different than /home
[20:45] <ZzTribble> jdl: ... Um Download. Done?
[20:45] <LjL> jdl: what kind of trouble
[20:45] <JoseeAntonioR> [14:44] <usalabs> Yes, I have. No results.
[20:45] <aauthor> LjL: this is my ls -al:
[20:45] <aauthor> -rwxrwxrwx 1 tom tom 668 2011-05-01 14:42 .ICEauthority
[20:45] <segflt>  just "stop sshd" without the quotes
[20:45] <escott> _Neytiri_, a symlink would be easier
[20:46] <naryfa> LjL: Recording WAVE 'test.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 192000 Hz, Stereo
[20:46] <ikonia> service ssh stop
[20:46] <LjL> naryfa: then it works with 192000 just fine, nothing to set up
[20:46] <praveen> ZzTribble: i haven't configured samba.conf...i have installed samba gui version..and i share my folders with the help of this...
[20:46] <naryfa> LjL: but only on 16 bit, no?
[20:46] <erika> how can I get a list of all packages that I have installed?
[20:46] <jdl> i try following directions but terminal doesnt recognize any comand or directory
[20:46] <escott> _Neytiri_, but you should just be able to pass the -d option to useradd
[20:46] <viddy> erika: dpkg --get-selections
[20:47] <ZzTribble> praveen: ask #samba? lol
[20:47] <erika> not those that were part of the standard system. is this possible?
[20:47] <phunyguy> Hello!
[20:47] <phunyguy> hmmm... not sure i like empathy for irc
[20:47] <LjL> naryfa: ah right i forgot about the 24 bit part... but i don't think that specific command allows recording at 24 bit, so i don't know how you could check (perhaps install Audacity and try recording there)
[20:47] <phunyguy> but it will do.
[20:48] <ZzTribble> Ok. im done for now..
[20:48] <ZzTribble> later
[20:48] <phunyguy> cya
[20:48] <wli> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git-repos/ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git I think
[20:48] <naryfa> LjL: ok, thanks for that info, be well good man (or woman lol)
[20:49] <LjL> aauthor: i have no clue, however there is a forum thread which suggests also checking the permissions for /home/tom itself... seems unlikely, but
[20:49] <Rehan> n00b question: is there anything similar to TeamViewer for Windows for Ubuntu?
[20:49] <Loshki> erika: sort of. /var/log/dpkg/dpkg.log.* contains all packages added in chronological order, so in theory you can reconstruct the list of things you added by using something like 'egrep installed'
[20:49] <Christian87> user teamviewer
[20:49] <binwiederhier> hey guys, does any of you know where gnome stores the user profile data (the one from System -> About Me)? Specifially, I'm interested in the profile picture.
[20:49] <JoshDreamland> 11.04 breaks XQueryPointer
[20:50] <jdl> i try following directions but terminal doesnt recognize any comand or directory
[20:50] <asdf_msc> is there a command to reload the 11.04 panel?
[20:50] <Loshki> JoshDreamland: please file a bug for it...
[20:50] <kz3> someone please help me configuring MySQL on ubuntu
[20:51] <Christian87> kz3 whats the prob?
[20:51] <JoshDreamland> Loshki: I'm trying to find any sort of substance to populate such a report with, because if XQueryPointer never worked, we'd be in serious trouble. I need some specific scenario in which it fails
[20:51] <phunyguy> kz3 there may be a mysql channel
[20:51] <aauthor> LjL: OK, I'll give it a shot.
[20:52] <Loshki> JoshDreamland: fair enough. Best of luck with that...
[20:52] <JoshDreamland> Thanks; I'll need it
[20:52]  * wli is having Parma polygon lib issues too.
[20:53] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. Anyone know how to fix this?
[20:54] <mmmiiikkkeee> Hi I created a natty live USB drive from disk creator in maverick.  I get "syslinux 4.01 debian-20100714" after Googleing I read that typing "help<enter>" would let me boot, but does not seem to work.  any ideas?
[20:55] <flodine> hey everyone ubuntu 11.04 install and works fine until i switch screens it keeps locking up does unity have problems or what?
[20:56]  * Laggg is away: He's watering some kush
[20:56]  * wli is sticking to maverick until 11.x gets more bugs shaken out.
[20:56] <cl3tUs> Why is it that my login screen shows up on my second monitor/tv by default?  How do I change that?
[20:56] <chreestopher> anyone know of a good tutorial on gettng your soundcard to work with alsa in ubuntu? (preferably newb friendly)
[20:57] <cl3tUs> chreestopher, what kind of soundcard?  Have you checked in the additional drivers area?  I'm not sure if it'd be there as I'm new myself, but it's possible that it could be.
[20:58]  * wli isn't sure http is doing better than native git, but will find out after a while.
[20:59] <chreestopher> hd intell is the card acording to alsa, and VIA VT1708S is the chipset
[20:59] <Rehan> my plymouth loads fine until the very end when it goes to a black screen and i see some cron status messages. How can I make it so that I don't see any text screen in plymouth and go straight to the login?
[21:00] <Sacko> hello all. trying to install ubuntu from CD after booting gettting dropped into BusyBox/initramfs with message "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system".  Can anyone help?
[21:00] <carandraug> Hi! Is there a keyboard shortcut on gedit to move between the embedded terminal on the bottom pane and the text area?
[21:01] <JoshDreamland> I don't get it; this program also randomly freezes on quit
[21:01] <victorhugo289> Guys, wasn't Unity originally made for Netbooks?
[21:01] <MK``> yes
[21:02] <victorhugo289> If it can run in Netbooks, why doens't it run in my Desktop computer?
[21:02] <carandraug> victorhugo289, I believe so, yes
[21:02] <victorhugo289> Pentium 4, @2Ghz, 1GB ram
[21:02] <maddie> Can someone please help me with my question? http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-774116%5D-%5Bnew%5D-unity-launcher-settings-resets-automatically-146723/
[21:02] <phunyguy> victorhugo289, yes but it caught on.
[21:02] <victorhugo289> It says I have to use Ubuntu classic
[21:02] <vooze> victorhugo289, maybe your GFX is not supported (too old) and no good drivers
[21:03] <arquebus> carandraug: how do you make the terminal show up gedit? Ive never seen that before
[21:03] <phunyguy> victorhugo289 or you just need to install proprietary drivers
[21:03] <victorhugo289> My video card is very old, yes, it's 128MB, I never needed proprietery drives
[21:03] <phunyguy> yeah its too old
[21:03] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step
[21:04] <victorhugo289> But then Netbooks are more powerful than my computer?
[21:04] <tensorpudding> victorhugo289: what card is it
[21:04] <jjlee> How do people bring up their iptables firewall these days?  I used to use if-pre-up.d, but network manager doesn't call those scripts any more.
[21:04] <maddie> please someone :/ http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-774116%5D-%5Bnew%5D-unity-launcher-settings-resets-automatically-146723/
[21:04] <vooze> victorhugo289, just like you cant run windows7, on a old piece of shit computer, thats life :)
[21:04] <victorhugo289> Let me check...
[21:04] <phunyguy> Inphernal, sudo apt-get update
[21:04] <phunyguy> or something
[21:04] <phunyguy> :P
[21:04] <serpentologist> Hi, i have the following problem: i burned xubuntu image to disk and successfully booted from it. But when i tried to install the system i got error because some files could not be read. So here the question: is there a way to configure installer in such a way that it downloads packages from the server, not from the disk?
[21:04] <tensorpudding> victorhugo289: even if it doesn't require proprietary drivers, it's not unreasonable for it to be able to run compiz
[21:04] <carandraug> arquebus, go to preferences and there's a plugin called Embedded terminal. It will appear on gedit bottom pane (activate on the menu View or Ctr+F9)
[21:04] <usalabs> victorhugo289: if you're using nVidia, try running 'additional drivers' in the system section
[21:05] <brous-kee> jjlee perhaps via upstart?
[21:05] <jdl> hey i need help and nobody helped me!!!!!!!
[21:05] <victorhugo289> My video card is an ATI RAdeon 9250
[21:05] <arquebus> carandraug: ok, thx
[21:05] <phunyguy> jdl, calm down
[21:05] <jdl> ok
[21:05] <escott> Inphernal, have you held any packages in apt
[21:05] <phunyguy> free software is like that
[21:05] <plan_rich> i accedently removed me from all groups but my own and www-data... is there a way to add myself to admin again? there is no other user created yet with sudo rights...
[21:05] <phunyguy> you want to demand support, then buy windows
[21:05] <victorhugo289> I clicked Additional Drivers, it says "No propriety drivers are in use"
[21:05] <Inphernal> phunyguy: Did it, trying upgrader again
[21:06] <carandraug> arquebus, no problem. If you never looked into them, there's also a side pan where you can have a character map, and file browser. Soooo handy
[21:06] <victorhugo289> Ok, besides Unity, what's best about Ubuntu 11.04?
[21:06] <usalabs> does it show any listed driovers?
[21:06] <jdl> phunnyguy i am triing to install android SDK and its not working
[21:06] <usalabs> drivers*
[21:06] <Inphernal> escott: I think someone helped me figure out that I havn't last night, but I can check again if you can tell me how lol
[21:06] <brous-kee> plan_rich, you can recover via livecd  and re-create the user
[21:06] <victorhugo289> Asking me? No listed drivers
[21:06] <maddie> can someone help me with my problem? here's my post http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-774116%5D-%5Bnew%5D-unity-launcher-settings-resets-automatically-146723/
[21:06] <carandraug> plan_rich, use a LiveCD for that
[21:06] <plan_rich> ok thx ill try that
[21:06] <arquebus> carandraug: thx
[21:07] <guntbert> jdl: did you see http://onthefencedevelopment.com/?p=455 ?
[21:07] <Sacko> has anybody ever ran into the "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error when installing from a live CD?
[21:07] <escott> Inphernal, try dpkg --get-selections
[21:08] <jjlee> brous-kee: maybe, thanks
[21:09] <jdl> guntbert thank you i will be back
[21:09] <tensorpudding> victorhugo289: what driver are you using, do you know?
[21:09] <cl3tUs> Anyone know what I can do to fix Samba4?  I upgraded to 11 and am getting issues when trying to install anything.
[21:09] <guntbert> Sacko: I've heard this once or twice in the past - never saw a satisfying answer what was the cause ...
[21:09] <Sacko> guntbert: yeah, google is devoid of much information on the subject
[21:10] <usalabs> victorhugo289: have a look at this page:- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[21:10] <guntbert> Sacko: I was talking about here :-),  still step1) did you md5sum check the iso before burning it?
[21:11] <salomonv> hi, since 11.04 pidgin doesn't display in the notification area, is there any way to fix this?
[21:11] <Inphernal> phunyguy, taht didn't help, same error
[21:11] <Inphernal> taht*
[21:11] <Inphernal> that* lol
[21:11] <ikonia> salomonv: pidgin isn't in ubuntu any more
[21:11] <Sacko> guntbert: is there a tool for generating the md5sum on Vista?
[21:11] <salomonv> ikonia, thanks, but does that mean there is no way to keep using it, because I do like pidgin :)
[21:11] <tensorpudding> victorhugo289: the radeon driver has 3d support, so in theory compiz should work with your card
[21:11] <guntbert> !md5sum | Sacko sure
[21:12] <ikonia> salomonv: how are you using it, if it's not in ubuntu any more
[21:12] <mister2> hey, my buddy's home folders (documents downloads pictures etc) have vanished mysteriously... any known bugs that'd do that or a log i could check for malicious intent?
[21:12] <salomonv> ikonia, well, it is still possible to use it...
[21:12] <albech> i need a wacom like pad with pressure sensitivity, any recommendations that work with ubuntu?
[21:12] <Inphernal> escott: Ok, a long list came up with install on the right of each listing
[21:12] <ikonia> salomonv: how are you using using it, if it's not in ubuntu any more
[21:12] <escott> Inphernal, you are interested in the ones that don't say install
[21:12] <salomonv> ikonia, the same way I've always used it?
[21:12] <Sacko> guntbert: I didn't think that was the issue since I've had the problem with multiple different Live CD's, and even when booting from a USB stick
[21:12] <bluenote> Good evening, all!
[21:12] <killaz> hi is there a way to get the old menu im now on 11.04 and i hate this ugly toy interface ?
[21:13] <ikonia> salomonv: where did you install it from ?
[21:13] <ikonia> !info pidgin
[21:13] <salomonv> ikonia, it was still installed after the dist-upgrade?
[21:13] <ikonia> wow, it's still in main
[21:13] <ikonia> salomonv: so it doesn't go to the tray when you minimise it
[21:13] <Inphernal> escott: They all say install, but the list shows only l-z in Terminal
[21:13] <escott> !classic | killaz
[21:13] <Inphernal> escott: I can only scroll up to l
[21:14] <escott> Inphernal,  pipe it to grep -v install
[21:14] <killaz> ok thx a lot
[21:14] <salomonv> ikonia, no, the notification area on the top right in unity, next to the power-button etc, does not show the pidgin icon anymore
[21:14] <guntbert> Sacko: I didn't say it *is* the issue, just to start digging somewhere, and the you can "check the integrity" of the burnt CD from the start menu too
[21:14] <killaz> have a nice day all
[21:14] <bluenote> After updating to 11.04, I have a number of problems. One of them, however, is quite urgent: How can I find my old POST-ITs, which have been on my gnome desktop?
[21:14] <OfficiallyPC> When I try to upgrade the software-center in Maverick to the daily build PPA throght launchpad I get this in terminal: "The following packages have been kept back:  software-center". How to I upgrade it?
[21:14] <Inphernal> escott: What do you mean?
[21:14] <escott> Inphernal, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v install
[21:15] <usalabs> killaz: the logout and change session is only temporary, use the prog called 'Login Screen' and change the session to 'classic' there, it'll make it the default session for future natty restarts
[21:15] <trism> salomonv: there is an option in the pidgin preferences to show the status icon, however you would need to add it to the whitelist if you are using unity (it will show up in the messaging menu though)
[21:15] <escott> bluenote, have you tried running the post-it application?
[21:15] <tomek_> grabek
[21:15] <Sacko> guntbert: thanks i'll start there
[21:15] <Inphernal> escott: Ok, nothing came up
[21:15] <salomonv> trism, it does show in the messaging menu, but how can I add it to the whitelist?
[21:15] <guntbert> Sacko: Good luck :-)
[21:15] <mister2> hey, my buddy's home folders (documents downloads pictures etc) have vanished mysteriously... any known bugs that'd do that or a log i could check for malicious intent?
[21:16] <bluenote> can't find the application "post it"
[21:16] <logi> salomonv: you can access pidign in the menu by clicking on the envelop
[21:16] <bluenote> neither via terminal nor application finder
[21:16] <salomonv> logi, yes I can, but i would like to have the pidgin icon back as it was in gnome :)
[21:16] <jamil_1> I just reset settings in CCSM and apparently every thing is gone...no top bar, not side bar ....as if unity has crashed...
[21:16] <trism> salomonv: dconf-editor, desktop/unity/panel/systray-whitelist ..probably add 'Pidgin' but I haven't tested it
[21:17] <Rehan> has anyone been able to save their information in the About Me section in 11.04?
[21:17] <passthru> hey.
[21:17] <passthru> how to disable DRI on Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[21:17] <trism> salomonv: the description also suggests that adding 'all' will allow everything, which may be another option to try, haven't tested that either though
[21:17] <passthru> i wanna disable this because it is making my X session crashes all the time when I try to see a movie
[21:17] <escott> bluenote, there are dozens of stickynote applications if you could figure out which one...
[21:18] <bluenote> escott: The default one which was readily installed in the old desktop
[21:18] <salomonv> trism, thanks, do you need to update it some way or is closing the editor enough to apply the changes?
[21:18] <escott> !classic | bluenote
[21:18] <Inphernal> escott: What does this mean?
[21:18] <escott> bluenote, see if you can find it there
[21:18] <usalabs> A reminder to anyone that doesn't like the new unity, go to system settings -> system -> Login Screen change session to classic, restart pc
[21:18] <hugelgupf> hi guys. I set up 11.04 parallel to win7 a few days ago, and my sound was fine. A few minutes ago, ubuntu stopped playing any sound, so I rebooted to win7, which worked fine, and rebooted to 11.04 again, and my sound doesn't work. It seems to recognize the sound, but if I go to system settings-> sound and I try to test the speakers, it won't work either
[21:18] <bsodmike> hi all.  I can't seem to get mysql back up n' running.  ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[21:18] <trism> salomonv: the changes should be applied as soon as you make them, might need to restart pidgin though
[21:18] <escott> Inphernal, i don't know but we eliminated that one possibility :)
[21:18] <bsodmike> I've tried starting it via /etc/init.d
[21:18] <bsodmike> and updstart script
[21:19] <bsodmike> no luck
[21:19] <Inphernal> escott: Haha ok, any other ideas?
[21:19] <salomonv> trism: thanks, I will do that, i'll get back to you
[21:19] <bluenote> ubottu: Thanks fot the hint. But: I like the new desktop. I WANT to use it ... why should I switch back?
[21:19] <escott> bluenote, just saying switch over and figure out the app name then come back to unity
[21:19] <flodine> hey guys is anyone having problems with 11.04 locking up?
[21:19] <bluenote> i see, sorry, was a bit slow
[21:19] <bluenote> thanks, I'll get back to you later
[21:19] <escott> Inphernal, afraid not
[21:19] <salomonv> flodine, as a matter of fact, had that twice today
[21:19] <escott> bluenote, thats ok i wasnt too clear
[21:20] <salomonv> flodine, while using vlc to watch a video, in case that helps
[21:20] <hugelgupf> flodine, salomonv, same thing has happened to me too
[21:20] <escott> bluenote, see if it is tomboy
[21:20] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. No packages held
[21:20] <BassT> Hey guys. I did an update to Natty, now after a login I see the shell for a very short moment and get back to Login screen :(
[21:21] <Inphernal> escott: Ok, thanks for the help
[21:21] <Inphernal> I'll keep looking
[21:21] <usalabs> bsodmike: has mysql died?, you could try restarting using sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[21:22] <jamil_1> HHow can I start unity manually ?
[21:22] <maddie> can someone please help me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/38954/unity-launcher-settings-resets-automatically
[21:22] <flodine> well it only happens in unity desktop
[21:22] <bsodmike> usalabs: tried that
[21:22] <usalabs> jamil_1: open a terminal and type unity
[21:23] <takatori> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with Unity?
[21:23] <cobalt237> I just upgraded to 11.04 and my X server is hanging on boot "module nvidia not found"
[21:23] <brian_> Hey
[21:23] <bindi> takatori: let me guess. it doesn't work?
[21:23] <maddie> can someone pleasee help me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/38954/unity-launcher-settings-resets-automatically
[21:23] <brian_> Anyone know how to switch from the GRUB bootloader back to the Windows bootloader?
[21:24] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm having a trouble with the bar in the left side: It doesn't auto-hides
[21:24] <takatori> bindi, Well I just installed it and I don't have it by default.  When I run unity in the terminal I get the error "Cannot register the panel shell: there is one already running"
[21:24] <takatori> When I say "just installed it" I mean Ubuntu 11.04
[21:24] <salomonv> tried it, unfortunately even after restarting pidgin after setting the whitelist to all i still don't have the pidgin icon in the notification area, while that is set in preferences to show always
[21:25] <trism> salomonv: I just tested it here, it works, try restarting unity
[21:25] <bindi> takatori: no idea :p
[21:25] <jamil_1> usalabs: I did type unity in terminal. Something flashed on screen and nothing happened...
[21:25] <salomonv> trism, okay, did you use pidgin, Pidgin, or all?
[21:25] <salomonv> trism, not sure if it's case sensitive
[21:25] <usalabs> brian_: as far as I know, windows does not recognize LInux ext partitions, but Linux does recognize windows ntfs, and fat partitions, hence a Linux grub loader is used, but the windows loader would not know how to handle Linux partitions
[21:26] <trism> salomonv: Pidgin, this is exactly what I have ['JavaEmbeddedFrame', 'Mumble', 'Wine', 'Skype', 'hp-systray', 'Pidgin']
[21:26] <salomonv> trism, thanks, will do a unity restart
[21:26] <brian_> Well
[21:26] <brian_> I have it installed via wubi
[21:26] <Nishishishi> omg
[21:26] <takatori> trism, is your Unity working by default or did you have to do anything to enable it/
[21:26] <escott> brian_, usalabs i think it is possible to chain load the ext4 partitions but you have to install grub onto the partition not the mbr which is flaky
[21:27] <trism> takatori: it will start with the default Ubuntu session if you have drivers that support it (usually)
[21:27] <Soothsayer> how do I keep the launcher bar on the left visible/maximized at all points?
[21:27] <Soothsayer> I don't want to auto-hide it
[21:27] <takatori> trism, I have a Nvidia GTS 450 with the latest drivers yet it doesn't start at all.
[21:27] <cl3tUs> Anyone know what I can do to fix Samba4?  I upgraded to 11.04 and am getting issues when trying to install anything.
[21:27] <cobalt237> I've seen a post for blacklisting the nouveau drivers and manually installing the nvidia drivers, but I was hoping to get around that
[21:27] <brian_> escott: I want the mbr, not the grub.  I have 2 Ubuntu partitions(I know, I had some issues)  One partition is from the wubi one is from a CD.  I want to get rid of one of them.
[21:27] <salomonv> trism, it worked, thanks a lot :D
[21:27] <bsodmike> this is completely purplexing
[21:27] <trism> Soothsayer: ccsm under the unity plugin, hide launcher/never
[21:28] <trism> salomonv: np, glad it is working
[21:28] <cobalt237> If nvidia-current is installed, shouldn't the module "nvidia" be there as well?
[21:28] <daniel2k> Hi people, please somebody help me? I want to open througt ssh and existing already opened session at my server console, how can i do this?
[21:28] <Soothsayer> trism, thanks
[21:29] <kingofswords> hi
[21:29] <sdgdsffsd> hello i need help
[21:29] <usalabs> brian_ : wubi installes a grub loader, and also installes unbuntu in it's own folder in C:\ I tried it on a laptop running win7, the only way I can think of is using the windows add/remove to remove ubuntu and it returns windows loader back to it's previous state
[21:29] <yepitsme19> Hey guys, is there a stable version of Gnome3 out for 11.04 yet?
[21:30] <chrome_> how can I resize the disk through the command line?
[21:30] <stfollower> how do i install kubuntu 11.04 in ubuntu 11.04?
[21:30] <escott> yepitsme19, no and there wont be until 11.10
[21:30] <yepitsme19> Really?? :(
[21:30] <arquebus> chrome_: fdisk
[21:31] <sdgdsffsd> hello i need help
[21:31] <brontosaurusrex> and the next LTS is 12.04?
[21:31] <guntbert> chrome_: only when the file system is not mounted
[21:31] <OfficiallyPC> When I try to upgrade the software-center in Maverick to the daily build through launchpad PPA I get this in terminal: "The following packages have been kept back: software-center". How to I upgrade it?
[21:31] <usalabs> otherwise, the reason Linux uses grub, is so that it can recognize windows partitions and linux, but windows can not and does not recognize ext partitions
[21:31] <daniel2k> how open an already logged session console throught ssh ?
[21:31] <escott> yepitsme19, unfortunately... unity uses some gnome2 stuff in a way that is very hard to reconcile with the gnome3 until unity is moved up to gtk3
[21:31] <sdgdsffsd> !pm | daniel2k
[21:32] <chrome_> guntbert: but I can't umount the fs..
[21:32] <stfollower> how do i install kubuntu 11.04 in ubuntu 11.04?
[21:32] <needlez> anyone know why i just got kicked from my gnome session for no reason?
[21:32] <Blue_Opal> stfollower: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:32] <akharris> I DONT HAV SOUND, MACBOOKPRO,MID-2008,11.04 32BIT, NEED HELP PLZ
[21:32] <guntbert> chrome_: then boot a live CD image (I guess it is a vbox guest)
[21:32] <yepitsme19> escott: That....really sucks:( Thanks for the info though.
[21:32] <coco3431> what channel should i go to for bash programing
[21:33] <stfollower> Blue_Opal, and how will I be able to change between desktops?
[21:33] <Blue_Opal> stfollower: you can then switch between them on the login screen
[21:33] <kingofswords> having trouble uninstalling crossover..even after i run /opt/cxoffice/bin/cxuninstall...any 1 know of anything
[21:33] <escott> yepitsme19, you could try the ppa but it reportedly breaks unity
[21:33] <arquebus> coco3431: #bash
[21:33] <chrome_> guntbert: yes, thanks
[21:33] <Blue_Opal> on the login screen there will be a button, you can swtich between gnome and kde
[21:33] <stfollower> Blue_Opal, ty!
[21:33] <Blue_Opal> np
[21:33] <nmaxchat> My Wine is acting up. It appears to start a program then vanishes.
[21:33] <sdgdsffsd> well my question is
[21:34] <sdgdsffsd> i dont like unity and gnome 3
[21:34] <sdgdsffsd> wehat alternatives
[21:34] <guntbert> chrome_: you can simply use GParted for that task
[21:34] <yepitsme19> Yea, I have tried. It works for the most part***  And to go back all you gotta do is a PPA purge. I was just hoping it was 100% good to go
[21:34] <Blue_Opal> sdgdsffsd: try kde
[21:34] <coco3431> arquebus: thanks
[21:34] <sdgdsffsd> Blue_Opal: i have installed Gnome now, i have to reinstall ?
[21:34] <Blue_Opal> nope, you can install both and switch between them
[21:35] <usalabs> nmaxchat: wine doesn't always support all win progs, ry using something like Vbox, Vmware player, or crossover office
[21:35] <sdgdsffsd> but i love gnome 2
[21:35] <Rehan> anyone have the issue of About Me not saving their info?
[21:35] <Blue_Opal> as i said it will not replace gnome
[21:35] <nmaxchat> usalabs, Which is best ?
[21:35] <sdgdsffsd> Blue_Opal what do you think
[21:36] <sdgdsffsd> how long can i use gnome 2 blue_opal ?
[21:36] <usalabs> Vmware player is free, I use it and it works good
[21:36] <JoshDreamland> Okay, it seems XQueryPointer is generating a BadValue error, even though the spec doesn't mention its ability to do so.
[21:36] <Blue_Opal> what do you mean how long?
[21:36] <sdgdsffsd> blue_opal is it in 11.10 ?
[21:36] <daniel2k> please somebody help me? I need to connect to my server console, because its running an application, but when I connect throught SSH it opens a new session, with a empty console... how can I connect into a logged session?
[21:36] <flametai1> Hey can someone help me out? I'm having some major problems, I updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and the panels from 10.10 are still there and won't allow being deleted? Unity likes to glitch and the only way to get my computer screen to show up is by randomly hitting F keys (F1-12) on the purple loading screen or else it never loads.
[21:36] <JoshDreamland> This means to me that some Unity-oriented modifications to 11.04 mean XQP is making bad calls itself.
[21:36] <nmaxchat> usalabs, Thanks
[21:36] <Blue_Opal> as far as i know ubuntu will now use unity, which has some gnome components
[21:36] <usalabs> nmaxchat: yw
[21:36] <sdgdsffsd> blue_opal is it in 11.10 ?
[21:36] <ajay> hey folks!
[21:36] <sdgdsffsd> so i cant use it in 11.10
[21:37] <ajay> looking for an mp4->dvd authoring tool, any thoughts?
[21:37] <guschtel_> hi, i installed ubuntu 11.04 on my toshiba l505d but there were several functions that didn't work. After that i passed to ubuntu 10.10 but my wireless don't work anymore
[21:37] <Blue_Opal> so no it isnt, 11.10 will probably be similar to whats in 11.04 which is unity
[21:37] <sdgdsffsd> Blue_opal and it isnt installable in 11.10 ?
[21:37] <osoba_> hmm can i talk lalala
[21:37] <osoba_> i can :O
[21:37] <dasbootcapitan> Hi
[21:37] <osoba_> the unity sidebar wont hide for some reason
[21:37] <osoba_> does anybody have a clue why?
[21:37] <Blue_Opal> not sure about that, if you like gnome 2 you should look at using a distro that hasnt switched to gnome 3, there are probably quite a few out there
[21:38] <flametai1> osoba_, did you update from 10.10? =/
[21:38] <ajay> guschtel_: wireless.. such a pain, agreed.. makes me scared to upgrade.
[21:38]  * arpan is away: Gone away for now
[21:38] <brontosaurusrex> ajay, a good looking ffmpeg command line to get dvd compatible mpegs + some other software for authoring
[21:38] <osoba_> i just installed ubuntu for the first time and it seems very intuitive and nice except the stupid sidebar that wont auto hide sometimes
[21:38] <usalabs> osoba_ use ccsm to autohide the bar:- http://maketecheasier.com/autohide-unity-launcher-in-ubuntu-natty/2011/04/20
[21:38] <osoba_> flametai1: its the most recent version
[21:38] <osoba_> and gnome is meh
[21:38] <guschtel_> ajay, it's a real shame but now with the 10.10 it does't work either
[21:39] <ajay> brontosaurusrex: yeah that'd work too.. online it seems like i need to run a multitude of cmds, and they take forever..
[21:39] <Rehan> wow, i can't believe libreoffice shipped with ubuntu. its such an unfinished piece of junk
[21:39] <sulfo> daniel2k: i'm looking for some clue... this is what i was also looking for for quite some time
[21:39] <flametai1> Can someone help me? =| Since I updated I've been having major problems =/
[21:39] <Blue_Opal> Rehan: true but there is not much of an alternative
[21:40] <Blue_Opal> openoffice wasnt much better
[21:40] <usalabs> A reminder to anyone that wants to hide the unity sidebar, have a look at this site:- http://maketecheasier.com/autohide-unity-launcher-in-ubuntu-natty/2011/04/20
[21:40] <flametai1> Blue_Opal, I prefer the Open office.
[21:40] <Rehan> Blue_Opal: really? I haven't really had much issues with open office
[21:40] <osoba_> i am looking at it thanks usalabs
[21:41] <brontosaurusrex> ajay, well, id certainly make this a multi-step process, i'd do the same even on some other more video friendly os
[21:41] <usalabs> osaba_: yw
[21:41] <takatori> Turns out I didn't have the latest drivers for my Graphics card, I managed to get Unity working and I gotta say that I love it.  However, I now can't get Ubuntu to detect my second monitors whereas before it was instant.  Any ideas?
[21:41] <Blue_Opal> Rehan: openoffice was defiantly more stable but it doesnt quite measure up compared to microsoft office, which is a disappointment, thats still a major problem with linux os, there is much in the way of an office app yet, hopefully things will change
[21:41] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. No packages held
[21:41] <Rehan> Blue_Opal: theres a huge disconnect between Ubuntu's website which likes to play up the finished product ready for windows users to switch to and the actual product which isn't user friendly in the least
[21:42] <guntbert> !ot | Rehan Blue_Opal
[21:42] <jamil_1> When I login into ubuntu/unity I neither see the top bar nor the sidebar. But I know that unity is running because it show it in ps
[21:42] <daniel2k> sulfo: hehe I dont wanna get back to my office just to figure out whats going on on my server, I need to drive more than 1 hour hehehe so, because of this, I need to connect to the already openned console
[21:42] <Blue_Opal> Rehan: Yeah defiantly, the actualy operating system is world class but i often notice that applications are never quite as good, still it is impressive that they are free and dependant entirely on donations
[21:42] <guschtel_> anybody here with a toshiba l505d edition?! i am experimenting problems with my wireless
[21:42] <hrezaei> how to connect anaother desktop
[21:42] <hrezaei> via remote desktop
[21:42] <mitoni> Guys, would unity perform well on old pc (pentium 3, 512mb)?
[21:43] <sulfo> daniel2k: i know exactly how you feel :)
[21:43] <escott> mitoni, no
[21:43] <takatori> mitoni, extremely doubtful.
[21:43] <bsodmike> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[21:43] <needlez> anyone using the new ubuntu 11.04 get an issue with X.org server kicking from gnome session??
[21:43] <Emylbus> when manually choosing partitions to install to, what do i mount to the ext4 partition?
[21:43] <hrezaei> hi people!
[21:43] <ikonia> bsodmike: look at the file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock is it there
[21:43] <bsodmike> both my mysql logs are empty
[21:43] <hartmut> bsodmike: mysqld not running
[21:43] <Rehan> Emylbus: if you're a new user i would just choose '/'
[21:44] <flodine> im scared to log in to unity i really dont think its ready
[21:44] <usalabs> mitoni: if the (old?) pc has a supported video card, then I don't see why not
[21:44] <bsodmike> nope no file
[21:44] <hrezaei> how to control a remote desktop via remote desktop?! I have the remote IP.
[21:44] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok - so either a problem or mysql server is not running
[21:44] <bsodmike> I tried starting it
[21:44] <Emylbus> rehan: cool that's what i figured thanks
[21:44] <ikonia> bsodmike: check it's running ?
[21:44] <bsodmike> but no luck
[21:44] <deitarion> How do I change the framebuffer resolution on 11.04? It's giving me "Frequency out of range" on a 1440x900 widescreen and that makes fixing X11 troublesome when it breaks.
[21:44] <bsodmike> I'm pretty sure it isn't running
[21:44] <logi> Can someone help me? Sometimes my sound in Natty does not work.. I then have to press mute/unmute to get it back?
[21:44] <Rehan> Emylbus: no prob, i'm new to ubuntu too, just started :P
[21:45] <Emylbus> rehan: do you know if i want to reformat it?
[21:45] <needlez> flodine: id say 11.04 none of it is ready, even classic is giving some really bad bugs, like forcably kicking me from my session at random times and not showing any reason y
[21:45] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok, so you're going to have to check some logs first, the syslog and the mysql log is a good place to start
[21:45] <bsodmike> mysql logs are gone...for some reason
[21:45] <Rehan> Emylbus: i always do. if you don't have anything on there, might as well
[21:45] <osoba_> hmm i did the ccsm thing but the sidebar is still there
[21:45] <bsodmike> syslog I just checked...nothing much there
[21:45] <osoba_> might be due to the slowness of this partition
[21:45] <bsodmike> this is so strange
[21:45] <bsodmike> screen is also no longer working
[21:45] <bsodmike> getting odd PTY issues
[21:45] <osoba_> its an ide hard drive with a very small partition (8GB)
[21:45] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. No packages held
[21:45] <osoba_> its been kinda slow
[21:45] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok - painful, but here we go, walk through the init script to the part where ir runs mysqld-safe and try running that line
[21:46] <daniel2k> sulfo: maybe I should hire a midget and let the guy in my office when it's closed, just to watch the console screen hehehe
[21:46] <bsodmike> the init.d script?
[21:46] <JWay> guys, need some help. Just ran update manager and upon restarting and using ubuntu classic (not unity) it fails to load the panels and menus in the bottom and top of the screen
[21:46] <flodine> needlez i might have to return to suse .......LOL
[21:46] <JWay> unity runs fine
[21:46] <ikonia> bsodmike: you'll find it's a link to the upsetart script
[21:46] <brontosaurusrex> Inphernal, any 3rd party ppas and such?
[21:46] <Sacko> is it possible to net install ubuntu with win/mac as source?
[21:46] <ikonia> upstart even
[21:46] <bsodmike> ha it is
[21:46] <JWay> are there some log files specific to the panels/menus?
[21:47] <Inphernal> brontosaurusrex: Yeah, but they are disabled at the beginning of the upgrade? (Or so it says)
[21:47] <brontosaurusrex> Inphernal, ok, i was just guessing
[21:47] <needlez> flodine: got any good alternative to 11.04, i just want the snap windows and banshee integrated with my volume bar really, wish 10.10 just had snap windows and banshee instead of rhythmbox
[21:47] <bsodmike> it's just the general upstart script?
[21:47] <usalabs> bsodmike: type sudo service --status-all and see if mysql is listed as a service
[21:47] <bsodmike> k
[21:48] <mmhouk> wafinaaw !
[21:48] <bsodmike> [ ? ]  mysql
[21:48] <brous-kee> ikonia, is the newer ubuntu much much more into using upstart?
[21:48] <bsodmike> eek even cron has ?
[21:48] <pindropper> i am trying to add an option to one of my functions i wrote into ~/.bashrc. I am trying to do this by comparing the first arg by using if [[ "$1"= "-browse"]]; then do so and so. but every time i run it, bash says [["-browse"="-browse"]] command not found. what am i doing wrong?
[21:48] <sulfo> daniel2k: yop, but those guys are expensive ;) did you try conspy?
[21:48] <mmhouk> cozaa assy !
[21:49] <mmhouk> sdfgh
[21:49] <mmhouk> fdgfjdgf
[21:49] <killaz_> hello again i would like to know if im the only one having trouble with the flash player
[21:49] <mmhouk> g
[21:49] <mmhouk> j
[21:49] <mmhouk> gdfds
[21:49] <FloodBot3> mmhouk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <hrezaei> people! I want to use remote desktop! I have the remote IP
[21:49] <usalabs> also is mysql listed in the startup applications, system settings -> Personal -> Startup Applications
[21:49] <flodine> needlez im not happy right now with this release,it looks good but runs like junk this was rushed out im going back to suse.
[21:49] <bsodmike> usalabs: terminal only access.  This is a server.
[21:49] <mmhouk> long live Windows !
[21:50] <flodine> sad
[21:50] <usalabs> oh ok
[21:50] <ikonia> bsodmike: give a minute, eating
[21:50] <JoseeAntonioR> My Unity Dock doesn't auto-hide, what can I do?
[21:50] <mmhouk> ihahahaha
[21:50] <flodine> lol
[21:50] <escott> pindropper, bash likes spaces in tests, i think that is the source of your problem, you may also try #bash
[21:50] <bsodmike> sure
[21:50] <KM0201> flodine, it wasn't rushed
[21:50] <mmhouk> xxx
[21:50] <bsodmike> thanks ikonia
[21:50] <takatori> Anybody got any idea why Ubuntu won't pickup my Webcam's Microphone?  I can't use it for a Skype call for some strange reason, however it detects it fine as a Webcam.
[21:50] <pindropper> escott, thanks. and thanks
[21:50] <KM0201> it's just an initial release, jsut like when kde4 was initially released, it was awful
[21:50] <mmhouk> TROLLING RULEZ
[21:51] <needlez> flodine: i totally agree, i always used mint, but since the implement of plymouth i haven't found a good OS that strayed from plymouth that i liked
[21:51] <WhitePride> Need some help!
[21:51] <WhitePride> I updated ubuntu.
[21:51] <takatori> Well done.
[21:51] <daniel2k> sulfo: hmmmm I'll try it, conspy... thanks doc .. midgets are too expensive lol
[21:51] <WhitePride> To the new version.
[21:51] <WhitePride> But i don't like it.
[21:51] <usalabs> bsodmike: try this sudo service mysql --full-restart
[21:51] <killaz_> So im i the only one having trouble with the flash player i got like white square all over the place ?
[21:51] <WhitePride> Is there any possibility for me to downgrade?
[21:51] <Souperman> nope
[21:51] <ThinkT510> WhitePride,
[21:52] <ThinkT510> WhitePride: theres classic mode from the login screen
[21:52] <takatori> WhitePride : Speaking on different lines like that is ridiculously annoying.  You can always enable Classic Mode.
[21:52] <bsodmike> it claims start: Job is already running: mysql
[21:52] <killaz_> whitepride go wiht debian they got stable distro ubuntu is know to not test their stuff enough and always crash
[21:52] <pindropper> escott: it worked with the spaces ! i dint know bash was so sensitive. lol
[21:52] <bsodmike> but the socket error still persists
[21:52] <killaz_> ubuntu as problem a lot
[21:52] <ikonia> bsodmike: look for pid file
[21:52] <shade34321> Hey! After upgrading to 11.04 last night my wireless doesn't seem to be working/reconized.
[21:53] <brous-kee> umm still the upgrade seems to cause lots of problems for many,  Ubuntu ought to just say, may as well install from Fresh and do away with upgrades, causes too much issues since version 7
[21:53] <bsodmike> drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql root     4096 May  1 20:50 mysqld
[21:53] <bsodmike> can't seem to find it
[21:53] <bsodmike> ps -ef | grep mysqld
[21:53] <bsodmike> root     10231  1436  0 20:52 ttyp1    00:00:00 grep --color=auto mysqld
[21:53] <mastro> how do an NVIDIA Quadro NVS 2100M work with ubuntu? 3d support, tv out, monitor out, hibernation
[21:53] <shigutso> how can I keep unity urgent animation constant instead of animating only once?
[21:53] <ikonia> bsodmike: be with you asap
[21:53] <bsodmike> kk
[21:53] <ajay> oh haha i didn't even process that 11.04 just came out til just now.. ;^) nice! will have to check it.. later.. later!
[21:53] <usalabs> bsodmike: if mysql is using mysql.pid you can do a search using sudo find / -name mysql.pid
[21:54] <excelsior> sup
[21:54] <bsodmike> nothing
[21:54] <excelsior> if I upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, will I lose any data?
[21:54] <JoseeAntonioR> How can I make the bar in the left side to auto-hide?
[21:54] <Serialk> no excelsior
[21:55] <redgone> anyone else also getting the "no video mode selected" error when booting 11.04 ?
[21:55] <brous-kee> excelsior, do a fresh install instead
[21:55] <sulfo> daniel2k: if you need just to watch the session and not capturing the control, you can use "cat /dev/vcsX", where X is the actual terminal number. and you'll need root privileges of course :)
[21:55] <usalabs> bsodmike: I forget what happens when you try to access mysql?, too many back scrolls lol
[21:56] <bsodmike> heh
[21:56] <bsodmike> # mysql
[21:56] <bsodmike> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[21:56] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok - lets work this through
[21:57] <bsodmike> ok
[21:57] <ikonia> bsodmike: can you pastebin the output of "ps -ef | grep mysql" please
[21:57] <excelsior> brous-kee: why do you suggest a fresh install? That will certainly lose my data.
[21:57] <bsodmike> http://pastie.org/1854541
[21:58] <excelsior> if I upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, will I lose any data?
[21:58] <Jordan_U> excelsior: You can do a fresh install while preserving your /home (even if it's  not on a separate partition).
[21:58] <usalabs> excelsior: download the app called deja backup, and backup your home folder to an external drive, then do the upgraded, then you can restore your back
[21:58] <excelsior> Jordan_U: why are you recommending that?
[21:58] <Jordan_U> excelsior: No, you will not lose any data if you upgrade. Though you should always have backups.
[21:58] <Jordan_U> excelsior: I'm not.
[21:59] <ikonia> bsodmike: can you pastebin the init script for me please so we can work it through (not got an ubuntu box to hand to do it)
[21:59] <ikonia> bsodmike: you may want to use pastebinit to make it easy
[21:59] <ikonia> !pastebinit | bsodmike
[21:59] <cobalt237> Running 'modprobe nvidia' confirms the module isn't installed.
[21:59] <killaz__> OK i would like to know if there is a way to unbug the flash player and does ubuntu like starting planing testing that work or something or ur still going the same way ?
[21:59] <flodine> excelsior dont do it
[21:59] <Ziber> On ubuntu 10.10, I'm trying to get two monitors to work, in extended mode instead of mirrored. Ubuntu says that "x server doesnt support size requested". What does that mean and how can I fix it?
[21:59] <dusf> anyone run mac os udner vmware/virtualbox on ubuntu?
[21:59] <cobalt237> If I reinstall nvidia-current, it says the module build is skipped because the kernel source isn't installed
[22:00] <dusf> !vmware
[22:00] <usalabs> I did my home folder backup, then upgraded to 11.04 then restored my home folder, and I got all my docs, images, etc etc back, as well as my firefox settings
[22:00] <ikonia> dusf: that would not be legal so please don't ask
[22:00] <tolmun_> Howto correctly setup 256 colors inside screen termina?
[22:00] <dusf> ikonia: i own the copy of mac os
[22:00] <ikonia> dusf: that doesn't matter, it's illegal
[22:00] <cobalt237> Is there a package for getting that kernel source so I could build modules?
[22:00] <damicita> an some one tell me how can i chage the order in the side panel in natty , i have allready tried with ubuntu-tweek  but still cant chage the order in with they are
[22:00] <dusf> ikonia: apple prohibit it?
[22:00] <usalabs> VMware is available free at the VMware site
[22:00] <ikonia> dusf: yes
[22:00] <dusf> k
[22:00] <usalabs> VMware player 3
[22:00] <bsodmike> http://pastie.org/1854541
[22:00] <bsodmike> refresh
[22:00] <escott> dusf, the only legal way to run osx is on mac hardware
[22:01] <killaz__> dusf do as u wish the the new millenium way
[22:01] <dusf> escott: i see
[22:01] <killaz__> noting is illegal but steal hack and ......
[22:01] <dusf> killaz__: new millenium way?
[22:01] <dusf> usalabs: would you recommend vmware over virtualbox?
[22:01] <killaz__> lol just to say regulation on the web dont stand
[22:01] <ikonia> bsodmike: tell you what, can you run "sudo mysqld-safe" please ?
[22:01] <killaz__> to me
[22:01] <killaz__> lol
[22:01] <escott> killaz__, if you want to discuss ways around the eula feel free to do so anywhere but on this channel
[22:01] <bsodmike> k
[22:02] <Ziber> On ubuntu 10.10, I'm trying to get two monitors to work, in extended mode instead of mirrored. Ubuntu says that "x server doesnt support size requested". What does that mean and how can I fix it?
[22:02] <ikonia> killaz__: do not tell someone to break a license agreement
[22:02] <usalabs> ikona, yes, I use vmware player it works great,,, Vbox doesn't have all the features that vmware player does
[22:02] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. No packages held
[22:02] <killaz__> yeah but im still waiting to get help flash player still buged as usual ubuntu upgrade is a big pack of crapy bug
[22:03] <ikonia> killaz__: enough -
[22:03] <killaz__> i means licsence so u tell me its illegal to mess around reversing engeneerieng my mp3 player
[22:03] <bsodmike> refresh pls
[22:03] <usalabs> oops, dusf: sorry, wrong address lol,,,,, yes I would reccomend Vmware player, as Vbox does not have the features that Vmware player has
[22:03] <ikonia> killaz__: I'll say this one time - do not recommend someone break the license
[22:03] <killaz__> licsence are a big joke to civ to corporation it as is user
[22:03] <bsodmike> the .pid file is named as per its hostname
[22:03] <killaz__> ok sory
[22:03] <bsodmike> I replaced that with XXXXX :)
[22:04] <tomasz> how can i connet to wlan using terminal ?
[22:04] <ikonia> bsodmike: that's fine, I'm not seeing a change when I refresh, are you sure the pastebin address is right
[22:04] <bsodmike> http://pastie.org/1854541
[22:04] <bsodmike> it should?
[22:04] <bsodmike> check the top
[22:05] <ikonia> bsodmike: sorry, it did change
[22:05] <ikonia> got it
[22:05] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok - ps -ef | grep mysql anything running ?
[22:05] <bsodmike> yeah I'm putting stuff at the top
[22:05] <flodine> ok guys enjoy ubuntooo headed back to SUSE
[22:05] <bsodmike> nope
[22:05] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok anything in the syslog ?
[22:05] <ikonia> ahhhhhhh I think I know the problem
[22:05] <escott> ikonia, do you know what the next step for Inphernal is we confirmed he has nothing held, but i'm unsure why we would be getting resolve errors?
[22:06] <miky_> ubuntu is based on windows me
[22:06] <ikonia> bsodmike: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[22:06] <cobalt237> Also I don't see any nvidia-current-kernel-source
[22:06] <bsodmike> 10.04.2 I think
[22:06] <bsodmike> 2.6.18-028stab089.1 #1 SMP Thu Apr 14 13:46:04 MSD 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux  // it's LTS
[22:07] <ikonia> ahhh a vps
[22:07] <bsodmike> indeed
[22:07] <bsodmike> I just had them restore it's backup
[22:07] <usalabs> gotta go, band practice,,, catch y'all laters
[22:07] <ikonia> bsodmike: please do "dpkg -l | grep -i mysql"
[22:07] <bsodmike> dpkg-query: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[22:07] <bsodmike> I had to create a file by hand to run apt-get update
[22:08] <ikonia> bsodmike: I think we are getting there.......
[22:08] <bsodmike> seems like lots are broken :s
[22:08] <ikonia> bsodmike: sudo find / -name mysqld -print
[22:08] <bsodmike> oh
[22:08] <bsodmike> > /usr/sbin/mysqld
[22:08] <bsodmike> > /var/run/mysqld
[22:08] <ikonia> bsodmike: that's surprised me
[22:08] <kneaux> "hax-"? spambot?
[22:08] <escott> damicita, click pull out from the panel, then drag up or down
[22:08] <bsodmike> it didn't run last time, of course I didn't have the -print after it before
[22:09] <ikonia> bsodmike: didn't expect it to be there
[22:09] <bsodmike> usr/sbin?
[22:09] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok, lets up the aunty a bit
[22:09] <ikonia> bsodmike: /usr/sbin/mysqld
[22:09] <kneaux> hi, i'm having trouble getting my monitors configured
[22:09] <damicita> where do i click pull out in the tweek ?
[22:09] <pbo> Ubuntu classic starts up without any top menu or task bar.. any suggestions? Just upgraded, think there was an update for my intel gfx card
[22:09] <bsodmike> it didn't do anything
[22:09] <escott> damicita, i mean do it to the panel. its like a drag and drop, but you have to pull out to center a bit
[22:09] <bsodmike> or seem to at least
[22:10] <bsodmike> don't see any pid
[22:10] <damicita> ok ill try know
[22:10] <damicita> ok when i do that they all move
[22:10] <bsodmike> hmm
[22:10] <ikonia> bsodmike: let me walk this through in my head
[22:10] <bsodmike> kk
[22:10] <kneaux> before i upgraded, if i just opened  up "Monitors" my aux. monitor would auto-configure, but now I get an error when I try to turn off "same image in both monitors"
[22:11] <escott> damicita, you might look for a youtube video, its hard to explain, you want to pull the icon towards the center of the screen and then without releasing it bring it back down
[22:11] <escott> damicita, the icon should come out of the panel and be replaced by a cursor
[22:11] <kneaux> "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied: require
[22:12] <damicita> i have been looking and i do just that that u say , but is like t here stuck  the wont move individualy
[22:12] <Inphernal> Hey all, trying to upgrade 10.10 64bit to 11.04, but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." at "setting new software channels" step. No packages held
[22:12] <damicita> ok i got it thankk u ... u cant imagen how many hrs i been page by page tring to see how
[22:12] <escott> damicita, there are some that won't move namely the last 4
[22:13] <kneaux> "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied / required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2560,841), minimum=(320,200), maximum=(1440,1440)"
[22:13] <damicita> thank you
[22:13] <nobres> i just updated only 32bit on my laptop but 64 is still on merkat
[22:13] <damicita> escott: is done thank you :)
[22:13] <ikonia> bsodmike: can you do "which mysqld" please
[22:13] <gb__> ello peeps
[22:13] <nobres> i just 2 sceptic about eleven64
[22:14] <bsodmike> on the money
[22:14] <bsodmike> # which mysqld
[22:14] <kneaux> there's nothing in my xorg.conf about this, either
[22:14] <kneaux> so it should be autoconfiguring
[22:14] <gb__> how do i add application to launcher please?
[22:14] <bsodmike> # which mysqld
[22:14] <bsodmike> >> /usr/sbin/mysqld
[22:14] <ikonia> bsodmike: /usr/sbin/mysqld --verbose
[22:14] <bsodmike> nothing
[22:14] <dusf> ubottu: ty
[22:14] <dusf> ikonia: ty
[22:14] <dusf> escott: ty
[22:14] <Doom_-_> I would need help , i got flash player poping white square i got rythmbox crashing how do i fix the flash player bugging anyone know or it is behind your knowledge ?
[22:15] <ikonia> bsodmike: ok - I can't be %100 sure without more effort, but what I'm guessing is one of the libraries/deps mysql wants to use is missing
[22:15] <kneaux> Having trouble configuring dual monitors, can anybody help?
[22:15] <ikonia> bsodmike: if it was there, and there was a problem that command would give you output
[22:15] <bsodmike> anyworth in rebooting the box?
[22:15] <gb__> anyone know about unity lancher on left side?
[22:15] <kyubutsu> gb__: run the application you want added, right click its icon, select 'keep in panel'
[22:15] <bsodmike> ah
[22:15] <ikonia> bsodmike: maybe worth "sudo apt-get reinstall mysql-server"
[22:15] <Oday> how do i use "mv" to move files that are inside a directory?
[22:15] <Oday> ...
[22:15] <ikonia> bsodmike: see if it pulls down any of the debs
[22:15] <bsodmike> would that wipe any dbs?
[22:15] <gb__> kyubutsu: ok
[22:16] <ikonia>  bsodmike no, that's data files, they are safe
[22:16] <ikonia> bsodmike: back them up if you are unsure
[22:16] <Doom_-_> so no one is able to help with my flash problem since i upgraded ?
[22:16] <bsodmike> reinstall invalid op
[22:16] <bsodmike> where is the mysql data stored?
[22:16] <bsodmike> location wise?
[22:16] <sulfo> Doom_-_: how did you get into that state :)? did you do the upgrade?
[22:16] <Doom_-_> yes
[22:16] <JoseeAntonioR> Ooday In Terminal, type sudo mv [Current location] [Destination]
[22:17] <bsodmike> I think my backup script relied on mysqladmin to grab the backups
[22:17] <ikonia> bsodmike: hang on, I'm rusty
[22:17] <bsodmike> kk
[22:17] <ikonia> bsodmike: it's apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server
[22:17] <kingofswords> having trouble uninstalling crossover..even after i run /opt/cxoffice/bin/cxuninstall...any 1 know of anything?
[22:17] <ikonia> bsodmike: the data files are normally /var/lib/mysql
[22:17] <escott> Oday, mv directory/* newdirectory/
[22:17] <gb__> grr i dont see it
[22:17] <vessago> help pls....
[22:17] <bsodmike> mysqldump -A --add-drop-table --opt -Q -u root | gzip > $OUTFILE
[22:17] <bsodmike> would use that to backup
[22:17] <Doom_-_> yes it was when i upraded
[22:17] <Oday> ahh ok escott , figured it had something to do with *
[22:17] <bsodmike> k
[22:18] <vessago> PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined method PEAR::raiseErro() in /usr/share/php/PEAR/REST.php on line 165  <---------- what is that and how do i fix
[22:18] <ikonia> bsodmike: looks like it, I think -A is all
[22:18] <ikonia> however.....
[22:18] <bsodmike> wow it's leeching heluva lot
[22:18] <IdleOne> Oday: sudo mv /all/these/files/* /to/this/dir
[22:18] <ikonia> bsodmike: sudo find / -name '*.MYD' -print will show you the db files
[22:18] <bsodmike> wtf
[22:18] <ikonia> bsodmike: you can manually back them up if you want
[22:18] <bsodmike> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libattr1'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[22:18] <ikonia> bsodmike: whoaa, easy on the language
[22:18] <bsodmike> sure thanks ikonia
[22:19] <ikonia> bsodmike: you're dependency tree is messed up by the looks of it
[22:19] <bsodmike> yeah
[22:19] <ikonia> I'm guessing due to the restore
[22:19] <sulfo> Doom_-_: i presume you've already tried to reinstall the flash and mozilla... that's where i'd start. and -this might sound like a words of noob :) - i'd probably try to do a fresh install
[22:19] <bsodmike> anyway I can fix it?
[22:19] <vessago> any ideas ... ?\
[22:19] <ddilinger> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a laptop with an Atheros 9287 network card using the natty netboot image.  It appears that the ath9k wireless driver is not included on this disk.  I know i can adjust the provided initrd.gz to contain the right module, but is there an easier way?
[22:19] <vessago> PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined method PEAR::raiseErro() in /usr/share/php/PEAR/REST.php on line 165  <---------- what is that and how do i fix
[22:19] <yakubori> vessago: missing the final 'r' in raiseError()?
[22:20] <ddilinger> vessago: purely guessing, add an r
[22:20] <Jordan_U> ddilinger: Do you need to netboot?
[22:20] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: unless i go buy a blank cd
[22:20] <vessago> yakubori: how / where do  i add this r
[22:20] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: changing initrd is easier than going to the store :P
[22:20] <yakubori> vessago: in line 165 of the REST.php file mentioned...
[22:21] <Jordan_U> ddilinger: Or use a USB drive, or other options depending on what OS is currently on the computer in question.
[22:21] <vessago> loool kk lemme check
[22:21] <Doom_-_> sulfo its always the same u upgrade then it bug i wont get any longer in that stupid infinite loop of problem i might just switch to other distro if i dont find a fix
[22:21] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: its currently a blank drive, and i would then have to own a usb drive, another trip to the store
[22:21] <yakubori> anyone had trouble with modperl in 11.04?
[22:21] <yakubori> i am having a hell of a time...
[22:21] <Doom_-_> so the best for flashplayer problem here is reinstall ?
[22:22] <xteejx> Hi all, how can I quickly mass rename 1000+ jpg images like 0001.jpg 0002.jpg etc?
[22:22] <LjL> xteejx: the "rename" program may help
[22:22] <Jordan_U> ddilinger: Then editing the initrd is probably your best option.
[22:22] <yakubori> xteejx: perl scripte
[22:22] <yakubori> :P
[22:22] <xteejx> any quick solutions? :P
[22:22] <ddilinger> Jordan_U: halfway there already:)  decompressed initrd, copying the drivers into palce
[22:22] <Omega> Doom_-_: What's the problem?
[22:22] <IdleOne> xteejx: pyrename is in the repos
[22:22] <vessago> kk that worked but now pear install PEAR-1.9.2
[22:23] <vessago> No releases available for package "pear.php.net/PEAR"
[22:23] <LjL> xteejx: it doesn't get any quicker than "rename", but it depends on what exactly you want to do.
[22:23] <vessago> install failed
[22:23] <wzssyqa> I have a problem: 2 user have no .profile and .bashrc either, but have different $PATH ,why ?
[22:23] <xteejx> vessago: Cool Ill have a look :)
[22:23] <yakubori> xteejx: all depends on what exactly you're trying to do...
[22:23] <wzssyqa> http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/download/file.php?id=131517&mode=view/Screenshot.png
[22:23] <sulfo> Doom_-_: definitely it is probably not the best way around this. but i have to agree with you on this one - the loop. i don't know what might cause this.. because i didn't do the upgrade
[22:23] <yakubori> do you have a bunch of numbered images?
[22:23] <Doom_-_> omega i got white square flashing all over my flash player thats the prob and  i hate to reinstall so ... my config is like hours and hours of tweaking
[22:24] <vessago> im trying to install uploadprogress library (preferred) or to install APC.
[22:24] <xteejx> yakubori: No, but that's what I want to end up with :)
[22:24] <bsodmike> ikonia: hello?
[22:24] <Doom_-_> so i would like to fix my flash player
[22:24] <Omega> Doom_-_: Hmm, interesting I have the same problem.
[22:24] <Doom_-_> omega is it coz not enough testing i supose i would not get this prob on debian ?
[22:24] <HyperShock> what do i need to do in order to configure unity to work the way I want?
[22:24] <Omega> Doom_-_: Oddly flash works in chromium, but I like firefox more.
[22:25] <Omega> Doom_-_: No, it's a recent problem.
[22:25] <yakubori> xteejx: i'd just slurp all the files one-by-one and name them with a counter, incrementing the counter each time... bash or perl script will do this for ya fine
[22:25] <Doom_-_> ok so i would get the same prob over debian i taught them they were careful
[22:25] <kneaux> Can anybody help me configure my auxilliary monitor?
[22:25] <xeodox> hey guys... can a server hostname (/etc/hostname) be "mail.mydomain.com "?
[22:25] <HyperShock> !unity
[22:26] <escott> xeodox, if you register mydomain.com
[22:26] <Omega> Doom_-_: The problem is only on some sites though, it works fine on youtube
[22:26] <ikonia> xeodox: yes it can be what you want, it's just a hostname
[22:26] <vessago> how do i write protect sites/default/settings.php
[22:27] <yakubori> vessago: chmod
[22:27] <xeodox> great, tanks
[22:27] <vessago> lol mmm what chmod ..?
[22:27] <escott> vessago, chmod -w filename
[22:27] <Doom_-_> yeah well cant watch tv online from where i like with this
[22:27] <yakubori> vessago: you're on ubuntu, ya?
[22:27] <tomatobros> hi guys i interesting problem when i click my apps opened on my desk sometime it can't change apps i mean mouse click don't work :S
[22:27] <vessago> yes
[22:27] <tomatobros> have
[22:27] <tomatobros> :P
[22:28] <yakubori> vessago: have you ever used bash before (terminal)?
[22:28] <vessago> im only 12 yers old
[22:28] <Doom_-_> i dont know if im suposed to hate adobe or ubuntu lol
[22:28] <yakubori> ah
[22:28] <natanielcz> siemka
[22:29] <natanielcz> jest tu ktos?
[22:29] <yakubori> Doom_-_: adobe
[22:29] <Doom_-_> lol
[22:29] <yakubori> ^^ my vote
[22:29] <yakubori> :P
[22:30] <damon> hey can anybody help me with an ubuntu 11.04 issue?  when running process from a terminal they always run in background and I can't make them switch to foreground
[22:30] <yakubori> so no one's done a modperl install on 11.04?
[22:30] <Doom_-_> anywone know where i could get help unlock a exe there is files lock inside a exe that i want ?
[22:30] <yakubori> damon: fg isn't working?
[22:30] <ikonia> Doom_-_: ##windows
[22:30] <natanielcz> Hi
[22:30] <damon> yakubori: when I run ps it doesn't even show the process I ran
[22:30] <bsodmike> hmm
[22:31] <bsodmike> ikonia: not sure how to proceed mate
[22:31] <Jordan_U> damon: What command are you running?
[22:31] <natanielcz> anyone can give me file gnome.session from natty?
[22:31] <Doom_-_> ##windows will bugg me for the legal issue ?
[22:31] <ikonia> bsodmike: trying to think of the best way to deal with it
[22:31] <bsodmike> ah
[22:31] <damon> Jordan_U: nautilus
[22:31] <ikonia> Doom_-_: #ubuntu will bug you if you're trying to do something illegal
[22:31] <natanielcz> my file is destroyed ;(
[22:31] <Omega> Doom_-_: you want to unlock a exe file?
[22:31] <litropy> Why is update-manager -d trying to install a bunch of KDE stuff?
[22:31] <Jordan_U> damon: That's because nautilus is being smart and realizing that it's already running.
[22:31] <Omega> i think archive manager can open exe files
[22:32] <Doom_-_> its not illegal its just that its lock they got user licsence against this the usual il restrict anyhing i can
[22:32] <kneaux> I'd love a little help troubleshooting my monitor configuration...anybody.....
[22:32] <Jordan_U> damon: That won't happen with all (or even most) commands.
[22:32] <Doom_-_> yeah for my mp3 player i got like fille copiled in it as ressource
[22:32] <bsodmike> just tried the same apt-get but with --fix-missing
[22:32] <ikonia> bsodmike: I'm trying to think of a way to regenerate the package list so it knows what's installed, I have done this before years ago, so I'm confident it's doable
[22:32] <Jordan_U> damon: It's not that the process that you ran is going into the background, it's ended.
[22:32] <damon> Jordan_U: oh, interesting.  Makes sense, thanks.  Do you know how to make nautilus feed me terminal output then?  I need to debug a script.  I don't recall this being hard to do in 10.04
[22:32] <Doom_-_> like the icon but it is config file for my archos
[22:32] <bsodmike> ah :)
[22:32] <Doom_-_> nobody broke the rev 2 lol
[22:33] <JoseeAntonioR> Guys, do you know where can I download Ubuntu 6.06.2 Desktop Edition? Because in the releases page I can only download 6.06.2 Server Edition...
[22:33] <ddilinger> ikonia: not sure if its what your looking for, but dpkg --get-selections can be used to find the currently installed package list
[22:33] <bsodmike> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[22:33] <Doom_-_> omega yes i want to unlock it with ubuntu once unlock i can extract file wiht file manager
[22:33] <litropy> is ubuntu/canonical deciding to utilize some of KDE's resources, or is update-manager confused?
[22:34] <bsodmike> zcat -f /var/log/dpkg.log* | grep "\ install\ " | sort
[22:34] <bsodmike> hmm
[22:34] <Doom_-_> on windows u cant see those files they are hidden real good
[22:34] <kyubutsu> JoseeAntonioR: 6.06 is no longer supported
[22:34] <OerHeks> JoseeAntonioR,  maybe with torrent > http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[22:34] <Jordan_U> damon: I don't know.
[22:35] <JoseeAntonioR> kyubutsu I am making a collection of every single version of Ubuntu, and I want to download it to burn it.
[22:35] <sammy> I've been trying to track down what mirror file ubuntu is talking about when it says 'warning: failed to find mirror file' but all ifind are unrelated issues where that message jsust happens to appear in people's logs. any suggestions?
[22:35] <JoseeAntonioR> OerHeks Thanks, I'll try.
[22:35] <yakubori> i think modperl's totally effed up... :(
[22:35] <sammy> Id like to update but I'd really like to do it from anywhere but the default since I'm sure its still overloaded
[22:35] <damon> Jordan_U: thanks, that at least helps me know what to google
[22:35] <Jordan_U> JoseeAntonioR: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[22:35] <yakubori> the Apache::*Rec modules are puking
[22:35] <Jordan_U> damon: You're welcome.
[22:35] <Doom_-_> i know i could find the answer in ida pro books but anyone know how to unlock a exe on ubuntu like i tryied the permission in properties it doesnt work its like the file is protecting itself against it
[22:36] <natanielcz> anyone can give me file gnome.session from natty?
[22:36] <sammy> Doom_-_: unlock an exe?
[22:36] <Deihmos> why woul di have wireless durig live cd but after installation there i sno wireless
[22:36] <Doom_-_> yes
[22:36] <bsodmike> that just creates a list of the packages
[22:36] <Doom_-_> unlock a exe
[22:36] <kyubutsu> sammy: follow the oficial page to the torrent section
[22:36] <Omega> Doom_-_: ubuntu doesn't use exe's
[22:36] <kyubutsu> &official
[22:36] <yakubori> Deihmos: closed source driver maybe?
[22:36] <Jordan_U> Deihmos: Open "Additional Drivers".
[22:36] <tomatobros> kyubutsu, http://ftp.linux.org.tr/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[22:36] <Doom_-_> i know but the file permission do not work
[22:36] <bsodmike> ikonia: this looks promising: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/187629/how-do-i-preserve-installed-applications-when-migrating-ubuntu-to-another-platfor
[22:37] <sycko> I have an odd problem. I have a Logitech illuminated keyboard, logitech g500 mouse, and logitech c310 webcam. All USB. When I use the webcam on 2.6.38-8-generic,  my keyboard will usually stop working after a few minutes, but the mouse and webcam still work fine. No errors in syslog or messages. Any ideas?
[22:37] <sammy> kyubutsu: I'm trying to run do-release-upgrade, not download a cd image. but good on you for suggesting the torrent as opposed to just downloading an iso directly
[22:37] <fr00g> I recently tried the Ubuntu 11.04 Live CD on my laptop, compiz worked fine (cube and everything), when I use compiz from my 11.04 installation on my hard drive it doesn't work, why not?
[22:37] <escott> natanielcz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602011/
[22:37] <Doom_-_> ist there a chmod command or smething to get all permission on a files or someting those files does not appear in windows even when u got see all files
[22:37] <Deihmos> i thought ubuntu was fast. this is really slow
[22:37] <ikonia> bsodmike: I'm cautious of stackoverflow guides
[22:37] <JoseeAntonioR> Jordan_U There I can only find 6.06.1, not 6.06.2
[22:37] <Doom_-_> so thats why i wanted to make it from lnx
[22:37] <Guest12321> Hey, major problem. I think my upgrade to 11.04 was interrupted, and now ubuntu won't mount any of my file systems (says "disk drive for / is not ready, press S to skip, etc). A good sign however is that I can still see all my files from a liveUSB, so I know they still exist. Can anyone help me?
[22:37] <natanielcz> escott: thx so much :)
[22:37] <kyubutsu> tomatobros: relay to JoseeAntonioR
[22:37] <bsodmike> mmm
[22:38] <escott> Doom_-_, chmod 777
[22:38] <Doom_-_> thx
[22:38] <natanielcz> escott: i thought about unity session
[22:38] <Doom_-_> il try it
[22:38] <Jordan_U> sammy: Software sources has an option for automatically finding the nearest mirror. It's also possible to use bittorrent with apt, though more difficult :)
[22:38] <Jordan_U> sammy: s/nearest/fastest/
[22:38] <yakubori> Doom_-_: ls -l should show you current perms; chmod can change the
[22:38] <HyperShock> Guest12321: i was getting that earlier on my system, but instead of freaking out and hitting the suggested keys I waited and it mounted the / dir anyways. for me it told me i could wait so i did
[22:38] <yakubori> m
[22:38] <JoseeAntonioR> tomatobros There I can only find 6.06.1, and not 6.06.2
[22:38] <yakubori> *them
[22:38] <escott> natanielcz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602012/ for unity session
[22:39] <funnylookinhat> Anyone here managed to get a radio stream to work with Banshee that has HTTP AUTH?  i.e. http://username:password@domain.com/stream
[22:39] <tomatobros> http://ftp.linux.org.tr/ubuntu-releases/6.06.2/
[22:39] <natanielcz> escoot: Yes. This is it ;) Thanks
[22:39] <sammy> Jordan_U: I wasn't running a gui but I can. I'll run that check for the fastest mirror and then try the update. very good suggestion, thanks. 'm still not sure what 'mirror file' its talking about is missing
[22:39] <tomatobros> but all server :S
[22:39] <Guest12321> HyperShock: Well, I waited a while, but nothing happened. I might wait longer and see
[22:39] <Jordan_U> sammy: You're welcome.
[22:39] <Omega> Doom_-_: What graphics card do you have?
[22:40] <JoseeAntonioR> tomatobros That's the problem, I want Desktop Edition ):
[22:40] <Omega> intel/nvidia?
[22:40] <Deihmos> is there a way to install the wireless drivers from the cd?
[22:40] <Deihmos> it is trying to download drivers instead
[22:40] <Ziber> Is there a way in ubuntu to set a keyboard shortcut to move to the next open application?
[22:40] <escott> Ziber, you mean alt-tab?
[22:40] <Guest12321> HyperShock: How long did you wait before it worked?
[22:40] <hell00> I have a question, using the Live CD, I can run Unity 3D properly, but from my hard drive, it doesn't work, why?
[22:41] <Ziber> escott: Well, I guess that does it. Thanks :)
[22:41] <HyperShock> Guest12321: also my upgrade was interrupted as well, mainly because i tinker, so the first instance was libpam, after much heartache i discovered that after I could get to shell like with the tty consoles (alt f1) a simple: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-broken ... solved everything, and ate 4 hours of my time more, but i got everything back.
[22:41] <yakubori> hell00: see if you've got additional graphics drivers available - closed source ones
[22:41] <HyperShock> Guest12321: about 30 to 40 seconds
[22:41] <ocx> hi, i have install ubuntu with basic setup now would like to add some packages located on the ubuntu DVD how can i do that from CLI ?
[22:41] <ocx> no gui access
[22:41] <hell00> yakubori, none are available
[22:41] <yakubori> hell00: odd
[22:42] <urlicht> I have two ubuntu machines on my home network. Is there a way to dist-upgrade one and then copy the new packages from that one to the other machine?
[22:42] <HyperShock> ocx: in your system settings for "sources" check off use the dvd section
[22:42] <hell00> yakubori, why would it work from CD but not from an installed version?
[22:42] <escott> ocx, i think you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:42] <wishper> pori bigonci....it can happen....
[22:42] <ocx> what do i need to point it to?
[22:42] <ocx> sources.list
[22:42] <softturnip> Is there a way to change the time it takes for the unity dock to appear when I touch the left side of the screen? That second is just a bit too long for me. Upper left corner is better, but it's annoying to go there every time.
[22:42] <deadpulse> ocx, apt-get install, aptitude install
[22:42] <tolmun_> firefox 4 is not listed after sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable
[22:43] <Polah> How can I stop Filezilla appending a ~ to filenames when I edit them? For example, when I edit home.php, when it re-uploads it I end up with home.php and home.php~. The file with ~ on the end only appears in the Filezilla file list
[22:43] <ocx> sources.list need to point to my dvd rom
[22:43] <yakubori> hell00: got me - mine was a little messed up but i just had to enable the proprietary drivers...
[22:43] <takamoron> ultrixx: /var/cache/apt/
[22:43] <sycko> I have an odd problem. I have a Logitech illuminated keyboard, logitech g500 mouse, and logitech c310 webcam. All USB. When I use the webcam on 2.6.38-8-generic,  my keyboard will usually stop working after a few minutes, but the mouse and webcam still work fine. No errors in syslog or messages. Any ideas?
[22:43] <johnny77> I'm having major issues with 11.04. If I log into Ubuntu, I get only a background, no panels. If I log into Ubuntu Classic, it appears that a Window Manager is not loaded. Any ideas?
[22:43] <escott> urlicht, yes copy the files from /var/cached/apt/archive to save the downloading
[22:43] <Doom_-_> omega i got asus engtx 260
[22:43] <ultrixx> takamoron: wrong person?
[22:43] <deadpulse> ocx, apt-cdrom add
[22:43] <HyperShock> softturnip: try holding down the super key (win key) and see if that delay is too long for you too
[22:43] <urlicht> escott: sweet, thanks!
[22:43] <tolmun_> funny with ascii-art aquarium =)
[22:44] <Pudabudigada> Hello, I just upgraded to 11.04, and now I can't play music.
[22:44] <Pudabudigada> It is extremely juddery.
[22:44] <Pudabudigada> Other sound, like youtube, works fine though.
[22:44] <softturnip> HyperShock, yeah. that's a good idea. thanks! But is there a setting somewhere to change the delay manually?
[22:44] <yakubori> hell00: run lspci |grep -i vga to see your card, might be missing a module
[22:45] <HyperShock> softturnip: lol, i'm like you waiting for someone to say how to tweak the unity launcher
[22:45] <deadpulse> Pudabudigada, can you play any sound at all?
[22:45] <deadpulse> maybe a codec problem?
[22:45] <HyperShock> !unity | HyperShock & softturnip
[22:45] <Pudabudigada> deadpulse, Youtube works.
[22:45] <Deihmos> does the new interface have hardware acceleration? it is really slow
[22:46] <malik_> hi
[22:46] <hell00> ok
[22:46] <LjL> Deihmos: it is slow *because* it needs hardware acceleration ;)
[22:46] <hell00> yakubori, um, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[22:46] <blackbit> HyperShock, try http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[22:46] <ocx> make install is giving me "compiler not found Makefile:124"
[22:46] <malik_> i want a linux command inside a bash script to be run in background. How to do this ? is it sufficient to put an & at the end ?
[22:46] <Deihmos> so at the moment there is no hardware acceleration?
[22:47] <deadpulse> Pudabudigada, it looks like a codec problem, what do you use to play music? did you try another app for it?
[22:47] <Pudabudigada> I've tried VLC and Mplayer
[22:47] <Pudabudigada> It worked flawlessly in 10.10
[22:47] <kyo> Dudes, I have a problem with ubuntu 11.04. I am not using unity, but when I want to play something in fullscreen a big number 2 appears. I tried to disable in System>Preferences>Ati catalyst control center
[22:47] <ocx> sudo apt-cdrom add install build-essential
[22:47] <deadpulse> ocx, and do you the necessary compiler for it?
[22:47] <ocx> not working too
[22:47] <ocx> how can i know which compiler is that?
[22:47] <deadpulse> Pudabudigada, and vlc didn't work?
[22:47] <LjL> Deihmos: yes there is, but how well it works depends on your card
[22:47] <Pudabudigada> deadpulse, No.
[22:48] <tesseracter_> i upgraded to 11.04, but the updater said it could not update my grub2 config. most likely this is because of my software raid setup(boot RAID1, everything else RAID 0) anyone have advice where to look about this?
[22:48] <HyperShock> blackbit: thank you
[22:48] <wzssyqa> !gnome3
[22:48] <yakubori> hell00: google ubuntu and that card and see what you need... but intergrated intel graphics tend to be crappy, imho
[22:48] <LjL> Deihmos: if you find it unacceptably slow, you can try installing the package "unity-2d" which will get rid of the graphical effects but be faster
[22:48] <malik_> i want a linux command inside a bash script to be run in background. How to do this ? is it sufficient to put an & at the end ?
[22:48] <Deihmos> notebook has an ati card. windows is really smooth with it
[22:48] <deadpulse> ocx, do only  "$sudo apt-cdrom add"
[22:48] <bsodmike> ikonia: it's a bug? http://markmail.org/message/lxdnl77y27z6olqp
[22:48] <escott> malik_, i think so try #bash if you have concerns
[22:48] <wzssyqa> !gnome3-team
[22:48] <yakubori> malik_: should be
[22:49] <blackbit> malik: i tried that and and worked
[22:49] <ikonia> bsodmike: I don't think it's a bug, I think it's due to your restore messing it up
[22:49] <fisch246> how do you upgrade to 10.10 on Ubuntu server?
[22:49] <deadpulse> Pudabudigada, if you try mplayer file.mp3 on a terminal whats the output?
[22:49] <blackbit> I tried "top &". It went background
[22:49] <Superstar> Does anyone know why compiz uses CPU anytime you move the mouse?
[22:49] <ocx> deadpulse: that is giving me found 2 packages indexes and then it is exiting
[22:50] <ikonia> bsodmike: I'm thinking clear the cache file down and the bin file - re-run sudo apt-get update to get the current list, then install the missing packages then mysql-server package
[22:50] <fisch246> o btw i'm using Ubuntu Server 10.04
[22:50] <ikonia> even if it thinks somethings there - reinstall it so the dependency tree is up to date
[22:50] <bsodmike> ikonia: hmm
[22:50] <bsodmike> the first step what must I do
[22:50] <bsodmike> cache and bin that is
[22:50] <Pudabudigada> deadpulse, 'file' being the path to an actual mp3 file?
[22:50] <ikonia> bsodmike: there is a better way to do this, but I can't remember it
[22:50] <bsodmike> I'm ready to try this... :)
[22:50] <deadpulse> Pudabudigada, yes
[22:51] <ikonia> bsodmike: it's awkward not having a box to work it through with you, so I'm running from memory
[22:51] <bsodmike> np
[22:51] <ikonia> bsodmike: can you pastebin ls -la /var/apt/cache please
[22:51] <Deihmos> this is weird. wireless worked with the live cd but now i instaled and cannot get wireless working. tried enabling the drivers and got an error
[22:51] <wishper> si si e poi dicono in giro che ubuntu è da lamer senza backtrack
[22:51] <psalden> hey folks... unity is supposed to work with fglrx isn' it?
[22:51] <mongy> Installed natty and am having trouble with networking using interfaces file.  I am using the exact same interfaces file that I use in 10.10, so my wireless connection is there when my desktop appears and I dont have to wait for network-manager to wake up.. well its not happening in natty, I have to ifdown/ifup the interface for it to work. what gives?
[22:52] <ikonia> psalden: if you card works with fglrx it will
[22:52] <deadpulse> ocx, ok so if the dvd is there it got added to the source list. Try installing whatever you want and if its in the dvd it'll get installed
[22:52] <bsodmike> can  I pm you?
[22:52] <wishper> sudo apt-get install irbudello
[22:52] <bsodmike> keeping up is crazy
[22:52] <psalden> ikonia: ok just checking... it uses fallback with fglrx here now, so then at least I know I'm doing it wrong tm :p
[22:52] <ikonia> bsodmike: sure
[22:52] <LjL> !it | wishper
[22:52] <paranoidphreak> hi everybody, i have successfully setup NFS server and client but only root has 'rwx' and the other groups have only 'rx' but i want everyone to has 'rwx' access; how can i do that? thnx
[22:52] <ocx> deadpulse: getting an error now when doing "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[22:52] <wishper> cd ..
[22:52] <Jordan_U> mongy: You can make network-manager connections start at boot by setting them as "available to all users" and connect automatically.
[22:53] <ocx> unable to fetch some archives\
[22:53] <lykkefeen> How do I set the icon sizes for unity-2D?
[22:53] <wishper> seeee ma fai caa
[22:53] <mongy> hmmmmm
[22:53] <blackbit> lykkefeen, this is a good question
[22:53] <LjL> wishper: what are you trying to tell us? this channel is english-only
[22:53] <kyubutsu> JoseeAntonioR: torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 contains a 6.06 desktop download link
[22:54] <JoseeAntonioR> kyubutsu But it is 6.06.1, and I want 6.06.2
[22:54] <psalden> can I somehow check what driver is actually being used?
[22:54] <LjL> wishper: #ubuntu-it
[22:54] <wishper> i'm very bored XD
[22:55] <Guest7041> !offtopic | wishper
[22:55] <cached> kyubutsu: kyuubi42?
[22:55] <lykkefeen> blackbit: I tried to google around and it seems like that changing the icon size in Unity-2D involves some programming, but I can't really get it working. It is such a shame as Unity2D rocks without bugs and bad performance.
[22:55] <kyubutsu> cached: inquiry does not compute
[22:56] <macs> its amazing that my vps is not using 78mb ram just by stopping apache2
[22:56] <das> hey guys
[22:56] <blackbit> lykkefeen, I am actually finding unity-3d more stable :) not sure if statistically relevant, but I have a few glitches on the unity-2d and I stil hadn't in unity-3d
[22:57] <kneaux> Can anybody help me troubleshoot my dual-monitor setup?
[22:57] <blackbit> lykkefeen, homewer, I am sticking to unity-2d because I use BOINC and the GPU for scientific computing, so having an hardware-accelerated desktop is unpratical
[22:57] <Toph> normally, ubuntu has a panel across the bottom or the desktop, displaying the programs running. I have lost that. Any ideas on how to restore it?
[22:57] <lykkefeen> blackbit: which graphics drivers are you using? Im on Nvidia.
[22:57] <paranoidphreak> here's is the line i added in the /etc/exports file: /home  192.168.1.124(rw) and when i try to connect to it using the client, only root has access to rw but other groups have rx; how do i make everyone have 777 access like in 'chmod 777 filename'
[22:57] <LjL> Toph: on Natty with Unity, or previous version?
[22:58] <macs> anyone know of an httpd that uses low ram?
[22:58] <blackbit> lykkefeen, Nvidia 270's on a Fermi GT430, but most of glitches occur while using flash player with firefox
[22:58] <tecnical> hallo
[22:58] <acicula> do you want something that serves pages or one that integrates rendering java,php or we?
[22:58] <Toph> LjL,,, i'm running Natty, but can't get Unity running, so just with Classic desktop
[22:58] <madsailor> kneaux, if you state your specific problem, if someone can help, they will
[22:58] <sulfo> macs: apache is not serving you well :)?
[22:58] <LjL> !resetpanels | Toph
[22:58] <tecnical> ???
[22:59] <macs> sulfo yes
[22:59] <kneaux> (I have...)
[22:59] <kneaux> "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied / required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2560,841), minimum=(320,200), maximum=(1440,1440)"
[22:59] <macs> i stopped it and my vps is using 78mb ram
[22:59] <kneaux> happens when I try to turn off mirror screens
[22:59] <Omega> Doom_-_: Did flash work before?
[22:59] <kneaux> Error is new since upgrading from 10.04
[22:59] <lykkefeen> blackbit: My computer is a small laptop which does not like all the unity effects. If I had a proper desktop computer I might not be that bothered. But flash has always been crashing for me - is it worse with unity2d?
[23:00] <jstoone> Hi guys, I'm trying to "compile" my manpage with nroff, but because it's a project between my friend and I, we write in danish. The problem is that it does not like char's like æøå
[23:00] <Toph> ubottu,,, thanks,, that did it
[23:00] <acicula> macs you can try lighthttpd, but 78Mb used doesnt seem like a lot
[23:00] <macs> ok
[23:00] <mastaofdisasta> macs: thttpd is lightweight
[23:00] <sulfo> macs: i heard about webfsd. however you probably can't expect miracles :) what kind of content do you need to have on your page?
[23:00] <kneaux> jstoone - you might ask in #ubuntu-dk
[23:01] <ikonia> !info libc6 lucid
[23:01] <macs> sulfo wordpress
[23:01] <blackbit> lykkefeen: Not sure if its an unity-2d issue, because too many variables changed:  Firefox version, Ubuntu version, even the Flash version: I still have the default plugin, I am not sure its the nonfree one. As you can see, I am not a statistically relevant case, but I am loving Unity...
[23:01] <jstoone> kneaux: Oh, I didn't know there was no such channel ;) thanks
[23:01] <Xgates> is 64bit ok on 64cpu or better to use 32bit for better app compatibility?
[23:02] <kneaux> jstoone, det var saa ligt
[23:02] <macs> well i tryed nginx and its only using 2 mbs
[23:03] <ikonia> !info libacl1 lucid
[23:03] <Xgates> is 64bit ok on 64cpu or better to use 32bit for better app compatibility?
[23:03] <david8732> Depends on what you wanna do.
[23:03] <escott> Xgates, hard to answer... what 32bit apps are you concerned about
[23:03] <fisch246> found my issue
[23:03] <Toph> LjL,,, sorry,, i just realized how you answered my question,,, thanks
[23:03] <fisch246> solution is found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[23:03] <sulfo> macs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_server_software - i guess all the GPL tagged might be of use ;)
[23:04] <flack-Z> !list
[23:04] <macs> ok
[23:04] <Xgates> let's just talk in general terms for any and all situations....
[23:04] <david8732> @xgates The biggest problem was browsers when 64-bit first came out.
[23:04] <david8732> Plugins werent compatible with the 64-bit versions
[23:04] <Xgates> yes I know
[23:04] <david8732> but that's barely an issue now
[23:05] <Xgates> so overall is 64bit pretty safe to use?
[23:05] <david8732> yup
[23:05] <escott> Xgates, it basically comes down to flash and there are more issues with flash and compiz than with flash and 64bit it would seem
[23:05] <david8732> It's got a slight performance advantage
[23:05] <Xgates> not going to use compiz but 64bit flash working?
[23:05] <DJones> Xgates: I moved over to 64 bit about a month ago, I haven't noticed any issues with software not working
[23:05] <dr3mro> i am releaseing this app for ubuntu plz check my code and give me advice?
[23:05] <dr3mro> i am releaseing this app for ubuntu plz check my code and give me advice? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602019/
[23:05] <david8732> 64-bit flash was working pretty well last time I tried it. You can run the 32-bit version with a compatibility layer.
[23:06] <david8732> If anything acts up
[23:06] <kdwm> (close
[23:06] <chipmenk> my internet on this machine is fine but unable to share or browse network i get could not display "network:/// nautilus cannot handle net work connections
[23:07] <Xgates> ok thanks guys
[23:07] <kneaux> Does anyone know why I would be getting the error "maximum=(1440,1440)" when I try to turn on a second monitor?
[23:07] <escott> kneaux, nvidia or ati
[23:07] <jibadeeha> dr3mro, looked through your code and it looks absolutely fine
[23:07] <kneaux> ATI
[23:07] <kneaux> i tried it with and without fglrx
[23:07] <Julie972> cant join windows's seven folder on lan
[23:07] <david8732> maybe you dont have enough video ram for that resolution.
[23:07] <Dpena> When installing ubuntu, on a 30gb hard drive, how big should the Files part be, compared the the Ubuntu part?
[23:08] <escott> kneaux, what does xrandr say about your allowed geometries
[23:08] <kneaux> david8732, would that be the case with a new upgrade? This didn't happen in 10.04
[23:08] <Julie972> I'm on 11.04
[23:08] <chipmenk> kndeaux do you havecorrect linux drivers for that video..
[23:08] <david8732> @kneaux Only if you changed hardware. If you just upgraded, that would be bizarre
[23:08] <Toph> when i try to log in (11.04), it fails to log in to the desktop which includes Unity, so I'm restricted to Ubuntu Classic. However, in Classic, i can activate the sidebar of Unity from Compizconfiguration Settings Manager.. What is the problem?
[23:08] <Julie972> I cancrawl through my seven's folder
[23:08] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces? I tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart but it says it's deprecated.  I also tried "sudo service networking restart" but it says "restart: Unknown instance:"   can anyone help me shed some light on this? it seems to be a problem with upstart, but I know very little about upstart it's a new concept to me.
[23:09] <kneaux> david8732, now you understand my pain.
[23:09] <tyler00> any folks know if there is any software to download that email every time you have an ip change? so in case my laptop ever gets stolen.  or is writing a script the only option?
[23:09] <kneaux> escott, anything specific you want? First of all, it seems to think I have a CRT connected, which I don't, dunno if that's part of the problem or not
[23:09] <david8732> @kneaux, I would make sure the graphics driver being used is the right one...
[23:09] <david8732> !!!
[23:10] <david8732> @kneaux I had that happen
[23:10] <Dpena> When installing ubuntu, on a 30gb hard drive, how big should the Files part be, compared the the Ubuntu part?
[23:10] <david8732> @kneaux check the connection to your monitors. Maybe do a power-cycle on them
[23:10] <david8732> @kneaux and reconnect them. They might be detected incorrectly
[23:10] <kneaux> david8732, did that, and fglrx should work as well now as it did then
[23:10] <kneaux> although i actually haven't checked to make sure ati is installed
[23:10] <david8732> @kneaux damn. =/
[23:10] <DJones> tyler00: Not quite what you've asked about, but have you looked into the prey project http://preyproject.com/
[23:10] <kneaux> yeah :/
[23:10] <escott> kneaux, could very well be the source of trouble. xorg is getting better and detecting more automatically but that means it has more opportunities to detect it incorrectly
[23:10] <Jordan_U> Dpena: What do you mean by "files part"?
[23:10] <dr3mro> jibadeeha, i want to create a deb for  it or a ppa is there some sort of article explain how
[23:11] <tyler00> DJones, will do. thank you
[23:11] <david8732> @escott, yeah that's probably the case
[23:11] <kneaux> escott, should i write it into my xorg.conf? cos it's not there now.
[23:11] <paranoidphreak> here's is the line i added in the /etc/exports file: /home  192.168.1.124(rw) and when i try to connect to it using the client, only root has access to rw but other groups have rx; how do i make everyone have 777 access like in 'chmod 777 filename'
[23:11] <david8732> @kneaux try 'lsmod | grep flgrx' in the console
[23:11] <escott> kneaux, i would try and set it through xrandr, but if you cant you could force your modelines into xorg.conf
[23:11] <david8732> Ohh that.
[23:12] <kneaux> escott, (also, xrandr doesn't say /anything/ about minimum=320/240 or maximum=1440/1440, which is the error Montors is giving me)
[23:12] <escott> paranoidphreak, what is /etc/exports NFS?
[23:12] <tyler00> DJones, looks good and that will be sufficient. thank you :D
[23:12] <Dpena> I'm trying to install alongside Mac os x, and it's giving me two part that I can adjust the sizes of, one files, the other ubuntu.
[23:12] <kneaux> fglrx                2739144  130
[23:12] <luigi_panache> Is it just me or is compiz much slower under 11.04 with an ATI card?
[23:12] <mastaofdisasta> how do I restart network configuration in 11.04 after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces? I tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart but it says it's deprecated.  I also tried "sudo service networking restart" but it says "restart: Unknown instance:"   can anyone help me shed some light on this? it seems to be a problem with upstart, but I know very little about upstart it's a new concept to me.
[23:12] <escott> kneaux, so its guessing at bad modes from the display can you force a good mode with xrandr?
[23:13] <ikonia> mastaofdisasta: it's a problem with your network config, not upstart
[23:13] <kneaux> escott, i don't know how, reading the help now but i've never used it before, so
[23:13] <ikonia> mastaofdisasta: you shouldn't need to use /etc/network/interfaces, use the network admin tool from the gui
[23:13] <escott> Dpena, is this inside a virtual machine or is this dual boot
[23:13] <genitor> hi guys
[23:13] <Jordan_U> Dpena: That's up to you and how much space you want to leave for files you keep in Ubuntu vs files you keep in OSX. 10 GiB is more than enough for Ubuntu, but you may run out of room for your own files.
[23:14] <Guest8699> mastaofdisasta, start and stop instead of restart?
[23:14] <Dpena> Ok, thanks.
[23:14] <Jordan_U> Dpena: You're welcome.
[23:14] <Pudabudigada> Can anyone else help me with my sound problem, it won't play smoothly, seemingly in anything.
[23:14] <openbees> unity panel and application launcher disappeared after installing CCSM
[23:14] <sycko> Has anyone had problems when using a webcam? My USB keyboard will stop working when I use my webcam but the USB mouse works fine.
[23:15] <genitor> I am in need of some assistance: upgraded to 11.04 the other day and everything worked fine. Just today when I log in I can only see the desktop background but no panels. How do I fix this?
[23:15] <escott> sycko, have you tried plugging into different usb ports
[23:15] <chipmenk> what is good local network file sharing program? windows adn linux boxes
[23:15] <openbees> genitor : same problem with me too
[23:15] <genitor> do you have any idea openbees?
[23:15] <sycko> escott, yes. All 3 in same USB and different USB busses.
[23:16] <Pudabudigada> Can anyone else help me with my sound problem, it won't play smoothly, seemingly in anything.
[23:16] <escott> sycko, after the keyboard stops responding is it still listed in lsusb or was it removed
[23:16] <paranoidphreak> escott: do you mean what i wrote in that file? if so, this is what is wrote in that file: /home  192.168.1.124(rw)
[23:16] <escott> !samba | chipmenk
[23:17] <escott> paranoidphreak, i dont know what that file is for
[23:17] <kneaux> escott, david8732, the second monitor is set to 1280/800 (max is higher) and mirror screens is on, but when I turn off mirror screens I get the error about exceeding 1440/1440. The only thing I can come up with is it thinks there's a maximum width for both screens combined, or is treating them as one screen when they're separate displays, or something of that nature. Why, I have no idea.
[23:17] <openbees> genitor : unfortunately  ..no idea....i just switched to ubuntu classic session
[23:17] <kneaux> I also don't know why it's being identified as CRT1
[23:17] <kyubutsu> genitor: maybe resetting the panels would help. do so with:  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[23:17] <sycko> escott, I believe it was still listed in lsusb. It completely freezes up and the only way i can get to work again is to reboot. Ive tailed all the logs I could think of to see if anything errored and found nothing.
[23:18] <kyubutsu> genitor: type that into a terminal
[23:18] <zeleftikam> New 10.10 install on Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L with Realtek audio. No sound. Tried installing Linux drivers from Realtek; rebooted. No sound. Help?
[23:18] <mastaofdisasta> ikonia: I'm used /etc/network/interfaces.... the GUI tool is gay
[23:18] <JoshDreamland> I've just named 11.04 the Windows ME of Ubuntu! *confetti* *trolololol*
[23:18] <escott> sycko, you seem to have covered the bases... sounds like a usb isue
[23:18] <ikonia> mastaofdisasta: 1.) don't use the phrase gay 2.) you clearly can't configure network interfaces file so you should use the gui
[23:19] <kyubutsu> genitor: or, copy and paste it to minimize errors
[23:19] <escott> kneaux, when you turn off mirror screens any change in what xrandr reports
[23:19] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: if that's all you've got to say, please don't speak, this is for support discussion
[23:19] <sycko> escott, It use to work fine on an earlier version of the kernel (wish I remembered which version it was). I think updating caused the problem.
[23:20] <genitor> kyubutsu: I did what you said but I got "gnome-panel: no process found"
[23:20] <openbees> kyubutsu: even alt-f2 not working so how can i launch gconftool...would u please suggest me
[23:20] <Omega> !ot | JoshDreamland
[23:20] <escott> sycko, you could try booting the older kernel if you still have it as an option
[23:20] <paranoidphreak> escott: /etc/exports......this is where you edit what folders and files you want to share, to whom and what writes and options
[23:20] <genitor> openbees: I used strg+alt+f1
[23:20] <paranoidphreak> escott:
[23:20] <genitor> because alt+f2 won't work either
[23:20] <Omega> JoshDreamland: If you continue, I will have to call a operator.
[23:20] <escott> paranoidphreak, is that samba? or NFS?
[23:20] <acicula> zeleftikam, best to remove those drivers you installed
[23:20] <Omega> an*
[23:20] <LjL> Omega: they are already watching and have warned them
[23:20] <openbees> genitor : what is strg ?
[23:20] <paranoidphreak> escott: NFS
[23:21] <sycko> escott, By the time I realized it stopped working, I could only go 1 version back and it still didnt work. I suppose something else could have been updated at the same time I did the kernel update that may have also been the culprit.
[23:21] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: he's already been told - drop it
[23:21] <zeleftikam> acicula: ?
[23:21] <genitor> sorry, ctrl :)
[23:21] <ikonia> JoshDreamland: sorry, not you
[23:21] <Omega> LjL: Very well :)
[23:21] <hiexpo> hola
[23:21] <abadadon> does the ubuntu CD (~700 MB) contain ALL the programs I can install via the Ubuntu Software Center to the point where I don't need internet access as long as I have the CD with me?
[23:21] <LjL> abadadon: uh, no
[23:21] <acicula> zeleftikam,  you installed drivers from the realtek site right
[23:21] <zeleftikam> acicula: yes
[23:21] <hiexpo> abadadon, no
[23:21] <LjL> abadadon: there are about 30000 packages, last time i checked anyway, in the ubuntu repositories. there's no way a CD could contain them all.
[23:22] <openbees> abadadon : NO
[23:22] <abadadon> ok! :) thanks
[23:22] <ScreenIssues> Is it possible to install natty with the 2.6.35 kernel and still use unity?
[23:22] <Chipzzz> sycko: is the webcam plugged into a hub?
[23:22] <escott> paranoidphreak, and you have matching uid's from server to client?
[23:22] <acicula> zeleftikam, is there some tutorial specific for your hardware that you are following that suggested that?
[23:22] <abadadon> LjL: is there a way to download them all or would that be a bandwidth nightmare?
[23:22] <sycko> Chipzzz, No. Everything is directly to the MB. I've also tried to move things to different groups on the MB to see if that was causing the issue.
[23:22] <CoachJ> how do I change the screen resolution
[23:23] <acicula> CoachJ, System->preferences->display
[23:23] <acicula> or monitors
[23:23] <LjL> abadadon: let me see if i can tell you how many GB is it
[23:23] <hiexpo> ScreenIssues, try itand if not you can always go back to your current kernal as long as you don't remove it
[23:23] <zeleftikam> acicula: some thing linked from google. i have no idea how to remove the Realtek drivers. I ran an install script it included that installed about a billion things, and there doesn't appear to be a removal script included. suggestions?
[23:23] <ikonia> LjL: 12 per arch I believe
[23:23] <ScreenIssues> hiexpo: Better question, how do I do it?
[23:23] <paranoidphreak> escott: no......i don't know how to do that; i'm able to connect to the server and see the files but i can't write to it unless i'm root; i want everyone to have 777 access that connects to the server
[23:23] <LjL> ikonia: only?
[23:23] <Omega> abadadon: It's a 382GB download
[23:24] <CoachJ> acicula: strange I dont have display in prefences
[23:24] <ikonia> excluding backports
[23:24] <ubuntunoob> i broke my sources
[23:24] <ikonia> LjL: a whole release is about 60GB
[23:24] <abadadon> Omega: okay, that's that then. thanks :D
[23:24] <acicula> zeleftikam, eh wipe, reinstall and troubleshoot with the existing drivers
[23:24] <ikonia> all archs/updates/repos/
[23:24] <kneaux> escott, i can't turn off mirror screens, that's the problem
[23:24] <hiexpo> ScreenIssues, not supported but install the ppas
[23:24] <acicula> CoachJ, yeah try monitors
[23:24] <escott> paranoidphreak, NFS requires that you have the same set of users on both systems.
[23:24] <Cairo|Mac> has anyone seen anything like this before?
[23:24] <Cairo|Mac> http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8213/img3503a.jpg
[23:24] <LjL> abadadon: ikonia says it's smaller though... i'm not sure
[23:24] <ubuntunoob> how do i fix my sources.list??
[23:24] <zeleftikam> acicula: wipe the entire ubuntu installation i just put on??
[23:24] <Omega> A whore archive mirror is 382GB
[23:24] <ubuntunoob> im on 11.04
[23:24] <acicula> zeleftikam, can you give me the specific model of the card?
[23:24] <kneaux> escott, when i try it gives me that error and reverts
[23:24] <escott> paranoidphreak, and then it just uses the same permission model
[23:25] <openbees> kyubutsu: hope ressting panels in unity session will not effect ubuntu classic session ?
[23:25] <CoachJ> acicula: yea thats it, guess im too tired to be doing this. thks
[23:25] <ikonia> I'll check now
[23:25] <zeleftikam> acicula: i believe it's a Realtek ALC883 or 888, integrated onto a Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L motherboard. the chip is too tiny to read the exact model
[23:25] <sycko> Is there anyway to remove/reinstall the USB drivers for the keyboard and webcam?
[23:25] <openbees> kyubutsu: sorry "resetting"
[23:25] <acicula> zeleftikam, if you dropped in hardware drivers without a way of removing them properly any form of trouble shooting is somewhat pointless if your system uses some external drivers.
[23:25] <hiexpo> ScreenIssues, i am using 10.04 and using kernal 2.6.38.5
[23:25] <acicula> zeleftikam, if you type lspci in a terminal can you paste the line that contains Audio
[23:25] <dibs> I'm upgrading to Natty, should I keep my own debconf or go with package maintainers one??
[23:25] <Chipzzz> sycko: you might try lsdev & see if you have an interrupt conflict
[23:25] <escott> sycko, well the keyboard would be usbhid, but i wouldnt remove that because it would also be the mouse
[23:26] <escott> sycko, the webcam should have its own module or maybe some generic v4lusb module
[23:26] <ubuntunoob> can somone help me
[23:26] <acicula> zeleftikam, "lspci | grep Audio" will also give you the line i am looking for
[23:26] <ubuntunoob> i broke my sources
[23:26] <zeleftikam> acicula: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[23:27] <yakubori> ubuntunoob: eh?
[23:27] <ubuntunoob> and i how do i fix them?
[23:27] <genitor> openbees: I fixed it!
[23:27] <acicula> zeleftikam thats not a realtek device
[23:27] <hiexpo> ubuntunoob, > how?
[23:27] <renegaid> anyone installed uubuntu in windows
[23:27] <zeleftikam> acicula: the motherboard has a realtek ALC chip on it...
[23:27] <ubuntunoob> i broke my sources and i need help fixing
[23:27] <ubuntunoob> them
[23:27] <kyubutsu> openbees: i do not know if this operation will affect all sessions globally
[23:27] <genitor> openbees: ctrl+alt+f1 and then type "unity --rest"
[23:27] <ubuntunoob> im on 11.04 natty narwhal
[23:27] <dibs> should you when updating generally stick with your own or go with maintainers when asked during upgrade process???
[23:28] <acicula> zeleftikam, can you post the entire output of lspci on pastebin?
[23:28] <zeleftikam> acicula: sure
[23:28] <egarff> sigh.  I wish whenever there was a new version of ubuntu, it wouldn't break suspend.
[23:28] <openbees> genitor : any bad effect on ubuntu classsic session ...because i can compromise with unity session but not with gnome session
[23:28] <zeleftikam> acicula: http://pastebin.com/htBPF82D
[23:28] <acecipher> dibs, if you've modified them on your own, keep it
[23:29] <paranoidphreak> escott: oh ok; thanks.....i'll do some research on that
[23:29] <escott> paranoidphreak, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#User%20Permissions
[23:29] <yakubori> ubuntunoob: how are they 'broke'?
[23:29] <sycko> I think ill try a live CD and if that doesnt have the problem, a fresh install may fix the issue.
[23:29] <yakubori> did you lose them?
[23:29] <openbees> genitor : and should be  "unity - -reset" i think
[23:29] <Greensky> is there a way to dist upgrade and tell it to use packages off the cd you already dowloaded instead of re-downloading them?
[23:29] <genitor> openbees: I don't know tbh but since it looks like we have the exact same problem and it works for me now chances are it will work for you as well
[23:29] <paranoidphreak> escott: thanks for the link
[23:29] <acicula> zeleftikam, there is no realtek chip in that list
[23:29] <david8732> @Greensky there's an 'update' option on the CD.
[23:29] <ubuntunoob> yakubori: i get 404's and i cant download anything
[23:30] <kneaux> escott, trying to search for a config file with 1440 in it anywhere right now...
[23:30] <david8732> It didnt always work for me, though. On my laptop, it was unavailable.
[23:30] <Greensky> david88732, I was hoping to not actually have to burn the cd, just mount it
[23:30] <Greensky> sorry for not clarifying that
[23:30] <zeleftikam> acicula: i know. but google Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L and you'll see loads of information about the Realtek ALC88x audio chip on it
[23:30] <acicula> zeleftikam, you can see a chip on the motherboard that has realtek stamped on it?
[23:30] <Virunga> Hi, can i install x86 linux driver for my graphic card on ubuntu 64bit?
[23:30] <zeleftikam> acicula: yes
[23:30] <openbees> genitor: thanks let me try
[23:30] <yakubori> ubuntunoob: Well, you have internets, obviously... did you mess w/ any network files?
[23:30] <escott> acicula, intel_hda reports itself as all kinds of stuff it is snd_hda_intell
[23:30] <zeleftikam> acicula: the Realtek crab and everything
[23:30] <david8732> @virunga No. :/
[23:31] <acicula> zeleftikam, can you check the bios to see if this is enabled?
[23:31] <hiexpo> Greensky, i would recommend that you do a fresh install if you want to upgrade
[23:31] <dibs> acecipher: cheers mang
[23:31] <acicula> escott, you mean the realtek chip identifies as intel_hda?
[23:31] <tjiggi_fo> abadadon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal see especially the links at bottom of page
[23:31] <escott> acicula, yes
[23:31] <Greensky> hiexpo, why? dist-upgrades have worked well for me for quite a long time, is something different this time?
[23:31] <zeleftikam> acicula: i don't recall a BIOS option for disabling the on-board audio
[23:31] <escott> Greensky, try apt-cdrom
[23:31] <Omega> I just calculated the size of i386 and it turns out to be around 8GB
[23:31] <Omega> Does that seem about right?
[23:32] <tixo5> hey
[23:32] <ubuntunoob> yakubori: i don't think so
[23:32] <zeleftikam> acicula: could this motherboard be bad? come to think of it, i have NEVER been able to get sound to work on it. I am installing Ubuntu because i couldn't get sound to work on it under Mac OS X 10.6.7
[23:32] <Virunga> david8732 thank you
[23:32] <escott> acicula, mine is 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) but its Conextant in alsa
[23:32] <hiexpo> Greensky, no but through experience i have found it better to do a fresh     >    but to each is own
[23:32] <abadadon> tjiggi_fo: thanks
[23:32] <johnny77> Does anyone know why unity would not load in 11.04? I upgraded, but only get a background when I log into Ubuntu.
[23:32] <tixo5> guys, 11.04 upgrade issue, 2 broken packages i cant remove
[23:32] <yakubori> ubuntunoob: can you get to google.com/
[23:32] <tixo5> and are inhibiting me installing other pkgs
[23:32] <escott> zeleftikam, what sound problems are you having? no audio at all
[23:33] <zeleftikam> escott: no audio at all
[23:33] <ubuntunoob> yakubori: all my internet  works
[23:33] <yakubori> well where the heck are your sources pointed?
[23:33] <acicula> zeleftikam, escott  well i did find this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1729039
[23:33] <escott> zeleftikam, you could try fiddling with sound card internal config using hda_analyzer from alsa
[23:33]  * hiexpo store word bound
[23:33] <tixo5> sudo apt-get --purge remove [package] doesnt get rid
[23:34] <Sonjaaa> how do i tell maverick boot disc to use video card's dvi and not mobo's crt?
[23:34] <acicula> zeleftikam, but you have to revert back to ubuntu default and getting rid of any additional drivers you added, even if that means reinstalling ubuntu. It only takes 30 minutes anyway
[23:34] <david8732> @Sonjaaa I think that's an option in the BIOS on most computers...
[23:34] <paul> what is the general command for searching a whole drive for word/words
[23:34] <Chipzzz> tixo5: which packages?
[23:34] <genitor> openbees: let me know if it worked please :)
[23:35] <escott> paul, searching contents grep
[23:35] <LjL> paul: grep will work, but if you want to know which *files* contain those words, then you want a combination of find and grep
[23:35] <mbrigdan> Hey! I just updated to 11.04, and now, if I use "ubuntu" as a session, I don't get any desktop menus (but I do get my desktop icons). If I use "Ubuntu Classic", everything works fine. I'm assuming I'm having a problem with Unity?
[23:35] <paul> aha, find is what I'm thinking
[23:35] <Sonjaaa> david8732:  i didn't see anything in the bios that mentioned dvi or crt. might it be worded differently?
[23:35] <tixo5> Chipzzz: openoffice.org-draw
[23:35] <tixo5> happened after 11.04 upgrade
[23:35] <openbees> ohh so sweet ware u waiting  fro me ..ohh sorry
[23:35] <david8732> Sonjaaa, If i understand correctly, I think you need to disable your motherboard's graphic adapter.
[23:35] <Sonjaaa> david8732:  thanks
[23:35] <escott> tixo5, libreoffice
[23:36] <openbees> genitor : lolz
[23:36] <tixo5> yes libreoffice!
[23:36] <Sonjaaa> hehe i'm using the screen reader
[23:36] <david8732> I have a question about Libreoffice actually.
[23:36] <acicula> zeleftikam, from what i can gather you need to specifiy the model type for the snd_intel_hda
[23:36] <david8732> What's the major difference between it and OpenOffice? And is it more compatible with .pttx and .docx?
[23:37] <escott> acicula, zeleftikam that just applies some guesses about layout
[23:37] <zeleftikam> acicula: i don't know anything about that stuff. i was told Ubuntu was easy :(
[23:37] <el_seano> david8732: libre is a fork from ooffice due to some layer 8 issues with oracle
[23:37] <zeleftikam> escott: ^
[23:37] <acicula> zeleftikam, it is, most of the time
[23:37] <Omega> david8732: Yes, it is more compatible
[23:37]  * tommylommykins is looking for unity's system-tray. Does unity have one?
[23:37] <tommylommykins> I've minimised spotify, and now it appears to be lost
[23:37] <tixo5> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[23:37] <tixo5>  openoffice.org-draw : Depends: libreoffice-draw but it is not installed
[23:37] <Omega> david8732: It is also being more actively developed
[23:37] <david8732> @omega Sweet. I had Openoffice screw up a powerpoint for school. :/
[23:37] <tixo5> its broken, how can i sort this
[23:38] <Omega> david8732: That sucks ): (especially that your school uses powerpoint)
[23:38] <ver> ehh, how do i share a directory via samba in natty?
[23:38] <openbees> genitor : actually its some updates are in process so i can't logout and login to unity session immediately..
[23:38] <escott> snd_hda_intel is pretty generic, lots of hardware has it, but each is configured slightly differently. the option provides some initial setup. so if you have it definitely use it/check most recent alsa. if you dont have it use hda_analyer to figure out the layout and forward to alsa people
[23:38]  * tommylommykins doesn't trust libre/openoffice with powerpoint
[23:38] <Omega> tixo5: install libreoffice-draw
[23:38] <zeleftikam> the alsa site is broken anyway, i can't download the driver or tools
[23:38] <tixo5> obviously doesnt work, its a broken package
[23:38] <zeleftikam> oh well i guess i'll buy a Mac
[23:38] <Omega> tommylommykins: libeoffice has much better compatability
[23:38] <zeleftikam> bye bye
[23:39] <david8732> @omega I had enough paranoia to boot Win7 and check it on Office 2010
[23:39] <david8732> @omega I still had to re-do most of the slides, though. :/
[23:39] <renegaid> i always found audio to be really poor in all lunux distros. don't understand why
[23:39] <Omega> renegaid: what'd the problem?
[23:39] <renegaid> 5.1 does not work. sound scratchy when adjusting audo
[23:40] <renegaid> just not the same
[23:40] <acicula> escott, i see people reporting that that works? would you suggest something else?
[23:40] <acicula> escott, ie like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4263007#post4263007
[23:40] <escott> acicula, reporting that hda_analyzer works? it does, but its bloody confusing at first
[23:40] <Omega> tixo5: go into a terminal and try sudo apt-get check
[23:40] <Chipzzz> renegaid: fwiw, I've had much better results with plain alsasound than with the pulseaudio that comes with Ubuntu
[23:40] <edbian> renegaid: Sounds to me like something is taking an audio signal and trying to force it into 5.1 sound.  could that be the case?
[23:40] <LjL> ikonia, abadadon: i must be doing something wrong. i listed the (compressed) package size for all packages in my apt-cache, and the total is short of 5gb =)
[23:41] <escott> acicula, it took me 2 months to get the hang of it (i wasn't trying that hard) and by then my board was fixed
[23:41] <nartkcin> is there a way to go back to 10.10 w/o a fresh new install?
[23:41] <escott> ie someone had sent the layout in to alsa and it got pulled in from upstream
[23:41] <escott> nartkcin, no
[23:41] <acicula> escott, well you have to edit a file in /etc/modprobe.d and add the specfic model option for snd-hda-intel
[23:41] <escott> acicula, yes you can do that, if the board is known
[23:41] <rcmaehl> >< 11.04 = so unstable I'm restarting X every 5 minutes
[23:41] <ubuntunoob> yakubori:  i need help fixing the list so it works again
[23:41] <acicula> escott, which is not very user friendly i admit, but the problem seems to lie in the hardware not reporting its type properly so it cant be autodetected?
[23:42] <radarwork_> how can i use my seahorse applet in unity?
[23:42] <deadaim> nartkcin: you should read http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/4795149014/the-power-users-guide-to-unity
[23:42] <deadaim> nartkcin: unity is all bad
[23:42] <deadaim> nartkcin: especially if you have a small screen
[23:42] <nartkcin> yeah.. i login in classic mode
[23:42] <david8732> So I was looking in ccsm... Unity basically doesn't work without compiz?
[23:42]  * tommylommykins asks his question again :)
[23:42] <escott> acicula, and the abundance of new configurations. all new intel laptops have intel_hda, but they all have the headphones connected to a different port it seems
[23:42]  * tommylommykins is looking for unity's system-tray. Does unity have one?
[23:42] <tommylommykins> I've minimised spotify, and now it appears to be lost
[23:43] <vademecum> i'm in the middle of a major upgrade. all the files have been fetched and are being installed. but the battery on my netbook is going to run out ofjuice before it's. can I cancel out and restartwhen I get to some ac poeer later?
[23:43] <acicula> escott, we dont need those standards anyway, heh :/
[23:43] <xeodox> hey guys I just set up a fresh ubuntu 10 server and installed telnet. How come when I do "telnet localhost smtp" or "telnet localhost 25", I get "Connection refused"?
[23:43] <bob_> nartkcin: you can do a parallel install (I chose 10.04 LTS) and it repartitions you disk so you can copy anything from the other installation (if your disk is large enough)
[23:43] <acicula> vademecum, if its still fetching, yes, if its installing no
[23:43] <tommylommykins> vademecum: can you hibernate or suspend it?
[23:43] <FanControl> i have a problem with acerhdf. after installation, as i attempt "modprobe acerhdf", i get "fatal: error inserting acerhdf". does anyone here know why such a problem would occur?
[23:43] <m|kael> is it possible to have multiple wubi installations in windows? i want to try out kubuntu =)
[23:43] <ner0x> How can I change the Alt+F2 in Natty to something else?
[23:44] <ner0x> (Keyboard Shortcut)
[23:44] <acicula> FanControl, you are not root
[23:44] <david8732> nerox, click the power button on the top right, go to system settings.
[23:44] <david8732> Keyboard shortcuts.
[23:44] <vademecum> tommylommykins: i think so
[23:44] <ner0x> david8732: Thank you.
[23:44] <zeleftikam> acicula: i'm looking at the motherboard, it says Realtek ALC888B
[23:44] <FanControl> acicula: have attempted "sudo modprobe", as well as "sudo su", then modprobe - no luck!
[23:44] <dios_mio> who can help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10753386 <-- about leyboard layouts and how they work in seperate windows
[23:45] <ner0x> david8732: It is not there. At least I don't see it.
[23:45] <acicula> zeleftikam, what i found is this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4079102&postcount=11 and the followup post. From what i understand changing that /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file with the right model is all thats required
[23:45] <david8732> @nerox: scroll down and look for Alt+F2 under the shortcut column
[23:46] <ubuntunoob> will i have to reinstall
[23:46] <FanControl> acicula: i still get "FATAL: Error inserting acerhdf (/lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic/updates/acerhdf.ko): Invalid argument"
[23:46] <ubuntunoob> to fix sources?
[23:46] <ner0x> david8732: I have it already set for "Switch to Desktop 2"
[23:46] <escott> acicula, zeleftikam check this first http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
[23:46] <ner0x> david8732: It allows it, switches, and continues to bring up the "dash"
[23:46] <acicula> zeleftikam, the followup post suggests 6stack-dig model, so id start with that, but youll have to experiment a little
[23:46] <david8732> oh
[23:46] <david8732> @ner0x its 'show the panel's "Run Application Dialogue vox
[23:47] <redgone> anyone else also getting the "no video mode selected" error when booting 11.04 ?
[23:47] <Omega> dios_mio: click apply system wide
[23:47] <david8732> @nerox under the desktop category
[23:47] <acicula> zeleftikam, oh hey, there is an entire list of alc880 models, eh i guess some guessng is required :)
[23:47] <dios_mio> omega thanks man
[23:47] <escott> acicula, zeleftikam but i dont see the ALC888B listed so... you could try it as an alc880, but you may have to tweak it with hda_analyzer
[23:47] <acicula> FanControl, maybe modprobe has a verbose flag
[23:47] <zeleftikam> escott: what do i need that for? i can look right at the chip and tell you it says Realtek ALC888B
[23:47] <FanControl> acicula: will check!
[23:47] <allen_> Hi;  I have installed Wine and as I have in the past, would like to intsall a Windows program using a cdrom. I'm getting an error when I try to change the permissions for the exe files....I moved the exe file to the desktop and was able to change the permission to executable but the Wine program loader will not load it properly....I was able to run the cdrom using Wine in the past....do I use some commands to solve this problem?...Than
[23:47] <allen_> ks
[23:47] <david8732> @ner0x might want to intall ccsm and change the compiz settings, then
[23:48] <ner0x> david8732: ccsm?
[23:48] <escott> zeleftikam, those are the board/chip combos that the alsa developers have seen and developed working configs for. i'm saying i dont see yours on there, so you may have to pick something close and work from there
[23:48] <david8732> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:48] <david8732> ^was @ner0x
[23:49] <zeleftikam> escott: it doesn't matter, the alsa ftp site is malfunctioning so i can't get it anyway
[23:49] <FanControl> acicula: with verbose flag [sudo modprobe acerhdf -v]: "insmod /lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic/updates/acerhdf.ko
[23:49] <FanControl> FATAL: Error inserting acerhdf (/lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic/updates/acerhdf.ko): Invalid argument"
[23:50] <Froq> so have any of you ever used the chameleon bootloader associated with OSx86?
[23:50] <escott> acicula, for a lot of hda problems you can direct people to http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[23:50] <acicula> Failrar, whats your command line again
[23:50] <openbees> devid8732 , ner0x : warning ! i lost my launchers and panels after installing CCSm
[23:50] <openbees> in unity
[23:51] <FanControl> escott: thanks! will check that link out.
[23:51] <alex_mayorga> where can I ask about a PPA not building? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:51] <pfifo> is there anyway to disable a CPU core, or, somehow select what process run on which core
[23:51] <acicula> escott, thanks for that
[23:52] <escott> pfifo, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html
[23:52] <ner0x> What setting would I find it under?
[23:52] <edbian> pfifo: This is going to be frustrating for you.  A fellow student of mine was doing a multicore project last semester.  He DEFINITELY attached a pthread to a particular core.  It can be done.  I don't know how.
[23:52] <pfifo> escott, ok thanks
[23:52] <Froq> so have any of you ever used the chameleon bootloader associated with OSx86?
[23:52] <m|kael> is it possible to have multiple wubi installations in windows?
[23:52] <edbian> pfifo: Or what escott said.  hahaha
[23:52] <acicula> pfifo, its called taskset
[23:52] <dios_mio> Omega, that was a good advice, but unfortunately it makes no change.. maybe i need a reboot?
[23:52] <nzashadow> hello, I tried out the ubuntu 11.04 live on my stepdad's laptop and it froze on the desktop, anyone have any idea what's wrong?
[23:52] <edbian> m|kael: I'm sure you could hack it to work.  I'm guessing it is not easy.  Why do you want to?  Normal installs are much easier to do this sort of things
[23:53] <Jordan_U> m|kael: No.
[23:53] <escott> Froq, the only reason to use chameleon over grub is to run osx which we dont do because that would be illegal sorry
[23:53] <Jordan_U> escott: GRUB can load OSX too :)
[23:53] <m|kael> edbian: i have a netbook so cant use burned cd to install, the usb install always hang up... and i wanted to try out kubuntu=p
[23:53] <Chipzzz> nzashadow: Did you look through the logs for clues?
[23:54] <acicula> FanControl, whats your command for loading the module?
[23:54] <biston> good evening
[23:54] <david8732> @ner0x it would be under the Ubuntu Unity Plugin i think
[23:54] <edbian> m|kael: There are other ways to install Ubuntu.  Perhaps wubi is easiest.  One of the stranger ways is unetbootin.  Lets you boot an ISO without anything but your hdd
[23:54] <edbian> m|kael: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[23:55] <nzashadow> not sure how, and all I could do was move the cursor around
[23:55] <pfifo> acicula, will this get me my desired result of disabling all process running on any core except core 0, with the other one/three idling?
[23:55] <zvacet> Jordan_U: yes,but it is still ilegal if you run hackintosh
[23:55] <acicula> pfifo, idk, try reading the mapage
[23:55] <acicula> *man page
[23:55] <edbian> m|kael: I think the only thing that wubi would mess up about is installing grub.  But you can change the config of grub to point to the multiple ubuntu installs each time.  I dont' know how easy or possible this is
[23:55] <nzashadow> gonna try again, he said his laptop doesn't like booting with his bluetooth usb
[23:55] <pfifo> acicula, yeah im going over docs now, just though you might know
[23:55] <nzashadow> so maybe that was the problem
[23:55] <edbian> m|kael: This all assumes the wubi installer will let you install to an NTFS partition that already has a wubi file on it (I think it will)
[23:55] <Chipzzz> nzashadow: alt-ctl-t will get you a terminal & you can dmesg or cat the logs
[23:55] <biston> i've been having some trouble for the last week updating my n900 (maemo based) repos... hash sum mismatch errors. and i was thinking of ways to solve it. i found a vmware image of maemo that i can run on vmware on one of my dedicated servers and it updates perfectly with no errors every single time. is there a way i can use that hosted maemo image as a mirror on my device ?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> m|kael: Don't try to do multiple Wubi installs. It *will* fail.
[23:56] <FanControl> acicula: i'm not sure. isn't it just: "insmod /lib/modules/2.6.35-28-generic/updates/acerhdf.ko"
[23:56] <acicula> pfifo, nope never used it
[23:56] <acicula> Fancontrol, no try modprobe acerhdf
[23:56] <mar> hello, i need advice on something, my screen resolution changes when i close my laptop...how can i fix that?
[23:56] <escott> !ot | biston
[23:56] <Jordan_U> edbian: It won't, because multiple Wubi installs are expressly not supported.
[23:56] <biston> i know, but it's an apt based question
[23:56] <nzashadow> oh, well that will just make life easier knowing that anyways lol
[23:56] <Captainkrtek> can someone test something for me?
[23:56] <m|kael> edbian: couldnt i just do a backup of this wubi installation and then install kubuntu wubi
[23:56] <FanControl> acicula: have tried that already, unfortunatly!
[23:56] <edbian> Jordan_U: m|kael Well there's your answer
[23:56] <Captainkrtek> seems like a big
[23:56] <Captainkrtek> bug*
[23:56] <Captainkrtek> who here is using unity + natty?
[23:56] <m|kael> and then just replace the disk file after?
[23:56] <edbian> m|kael: See what Jordan_U said?
[23:57] <Captainkrtek> pm me if you're using unity + natty
[23:57] <edbian> Captainkrtek: I have it installed on my other machine
[23:57] <Chipzzz> nzashadow: or you can boot into a command line & look at the logs from the last run
[23:57] <Captainkrtek> edbian, could you test something for me?
[23:57] <acicula> FanControl, hmm, well its not being descriptive about why it fails, maybe there is something in dmesg?
[23:57] <biston> escott say i have ubuntu running on my desktop, having same problem, can it be done?
[23:57] <Captainkrtek> and may I pm you
[23:57] <edbian> Captainkrtek: yeah.  What is it?
[23:57] <biston> you know it's not off-topic...
[23:57] <acicula> FanControl, are you sure it should be loadable to begin with
[23:57] <nzashadow> alright, thank you :)
[23:57] <edbian> I'd rather not PM
[23:57] <Chipzzz> :)
[23:57] <Milos_SD> Hi! Is there a way to blur behind Unity launcher?
[23:57] <m|kael> edbian: will it fail even if i copy the virtual disk file and then replace it after ive tested kubuntu?
[23:57] <sweb> i have an old lap top sony ram 256, 1800 amd cpu .... wich ubuntu version good for that ?
[23:58] <nzashadow> Chipzzz: how do you boot into the command line?
[23:58] <Jordan_U> m|kael: How did you try to install Ubuntu via USB?
[23:58] <Captainkrtek> edbian, I PM'd you
[23:58] <PaidSupport> Would paying Canonical for support help me if the issue was in the kernel?
[23:58] <Jackslaps> Yo
[23:58] <mar> hello, i need advice on something, my screen resolution changes when i close my laptop...how can i fix that?
[23:58] <escott> biston, not trying to shoot you down just saying that sounds more like an n900 question, you will be lucky to find an answer on this channel
[23:58] <edbian> m|kael: I've never actually done it.  See what Jordan_U said?  I was just speculating how I might go about getting it to work. Ask Jordan_U for specifics about why it won't work.
[23:58] <Chipzzz> nzashadow: hold down shift while the machine is booting & you can select it from the grub menu
[23:58] <m|kael> Jordan_U: no with wubi, the usb always freeze before it can install
[23:58] <Jordan_U> PaidSupport: Probably would, but it depends on the exact situation.
[23:58] <acicula> PaidSupport, youd better put that question to canonical support/sales directly
[23:58] <nzashadow> ahhh thank you very much
[23:58] <Jordan_U> m|kael: How did you make the USB?
[23:58] <PaidSupport> kk
[23:58] <Chipzzz> :)
[23:58] <isarl> I've been having troubles with graphics and the nouveau drivers after my upgrade to 11.04.  I'm pretty sure the drivers are either not being used or not working properly at the moment.  How can I troubleshoot this?
[23:59] <edbian> m|kael: I linked you the other methods of installing. Take a look!
[23:59] <Gnea> PaidSupport: why don't you just ask the kernel people?
[23:59] <Jackslaps> Is anyone here using irssi as an irc client?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Jackslaps
[23:59] <Ubuntuuser2011> is it just me or Ubuntu 11.04 is very unstable?
[23:59] <PaidSupport> Gnea: Because I'm new to linux. Don't know who the kernel people are
[23:59] <m|kael> Jordan_U: with the tool that comes with ubuntu on my desktop
[23:59] <nawk> !unity
[23:59] <shcherbak> Jackslaps: yup
[23:59] <nzashadow> I would like to know how stable ubuntu 11.04 is as well from the general consensus