| === micahg_ is now known as micahg | ||
| lilstevie | WOW | 04:52 |
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| lilstevie | amstan and computerwiz_222 are way wrong | 04:52 |
| lilstevie | samsung galaxy tab is nothing like the viewsonic gtab | 04:52 |
| Neko | lilstevie, they're tegra and they're tablets how different can they be, really? :D | 05:35 |
| Neko | someone's going to have to kick a kernel around, but the board differences are going to be teensy tiny compared to finding a tegra kernel of decent pedigree | 05:36 |
| lilstevie | Neko: because the galaxy tab is not tegra | 05:40 |
| lilstevie | the galaxy tab is samsungs hummingbird core with SGX | 05:40 |
| lilstevie | for graphics | 05:41 |
| Neko | http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/02/tegra2-powers-new-samsung-galaxy-tab/ | 05:41 |
| Neko | not the new one :D | 05:42 |
| lilstevie | heh well that is the 10.1v | 05:43 |
| lilstevie | which is a very small release cause the rest are exynos powered | 05:43 |
| lilstevie | which is samsungs own a9 core, with the mali400 GPU | 05:43 |
| lilstevie | or so it appears | 05:43 |
| lilstevie | it may have the sgx545 | 05:43 |
| Neko | yeah samsung are chopping and changing.. it's gonna make not running android a pain in the ass if you want to support them all | 05:43 |
| lilstevie | heh | 05:44 |
| Neko | that said on a tablet I'd hardly want to run Ubuntu | 05:44 |
| lilstevie | well so far the galaxy s2 is exynos for consumer devices | 05:44 |
| lilstevie | only dev devices got tegra | 05:44 |
| lilstevie | heh | 05:44 |
| lilstevie | I run ubuntu on my galaxy tab | 05:44 |
| Neko | maybe for Oneric the multitouch thing will actually work? | 05:44 |
| Neko | so far as I kicked it around, it's basically "there but nobody uses it, so good luck!" | 05:45 |
| lilstevie | unity has multitouch in its core | 05:45 |
| Neko | in theory! | 05:45 |
| lilstevie | it kinda works :p | 05:45 |
| Neko | I can't think of any supported ARM devices that actually have a multitouch display | 05:45 |
| lilstevie | I really need 3D | 05:46 |
| Neko | I mean maybe it works on some super hyper extended omap4 dev board | 05:46 |
| lilstevie | it works on my tab :p | 05:46 |
| Neko | but that doesn't mean multitouch is production ready | 05:46 |
| lilstevie | its not | 05:46 |
| lilstevie | I said it works | 05:47 |
| lilstevie | not that it is usable | 05:47 |
| Neko | I guess we have to get our asses in gear and get a tablet out the door that's developer friendly | 05:47 |
| Neko | hmm anyone know if the mimomonitors 720s is multitouch? | 05:50 |
| Neko | that would make it easy for me to kick it around some more :D | 05:50 |
| lilstevie | heh no idea | 05:52 |
| kcin1 | hi,i want to install skype on arm/ubuntu,and am missing libplayback which has been mentioned on this channel,anyone have it? | 09:42 |
| ogra_ | i guess you have to pull the source package from maemo and compile it | 09:44 |
| kcin1 | there is not even a source package | 09:45 |
| kcin1 | or where should i look? | 09:51 |
| doko | janimo, ogra: do you know about an xorg-video-abi-9 package? | 15:33 |
| doko | for armel, the genesi netbook | 15:33 |
| doko | required by hrw's xserver-xorg-video-imx package | 15:33 |
| janimo | doko, never heard of it | 15:33 |
| doko | janimo: could you do an apt rebuild with the gcc-4.6 from unstable? | 15:39 |
| janimo | doko, from Debian sid you mean? | 15:39 |
| janimo | ok | 15:39 |
| doko | yes | 15:39 |
| doko | apt's oneiric sources built in unstable, to check if it's a Linaro issue | 15:40 |
| janimo | doko, ok, will try to get gcc from unstable - all gcc related packages? Or shall I build in a chroot? | 15:41 |
| doko | chroot | 15:41 |
| janimo | ok | 15:41 |
| === Jack87|Away is now known as Jack87 | ||
| ogra_ | doko, ask Neko about efika stuff, he probably has packages | 16:02 |
| Neko | doko, it's a virtual package which includes all the right server side includes... | 16:02 |
| Neko | it's so you can boot grab the right includes for whatever distro version in your pbuilder chroot or so otherwise you could only build the package for the distro release you're running | 16:03 |
| Neko | apt-get build-dep will get it for you | 16:03 |
| doko | janimo: please build with -march=armv7-a -mfloat-abi=softfp -mfp=vfpv3-fp16 | 16:09 |
| doko | Neko: which repository? | 16:11 |
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| === zyga is now known as zyga-afk | ||
| === Sarvatt_ is now known as Sarvatt | ||
| GrueMaster | rsalveti: Question on u-boot. Does it support other omap3 based processors or only beagleboard ones. | 22:56 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: u-boot is still built for a specific machine | 23:02 |
| rsalveti | so u-boot-linaro-omap3-beagle provides only beagle support | 23:02 |
| GrueMaster | Reason I ask is I have a nook color (bought Saturday). | 23:02 |
| rsalveti | oh, cool | 23:03 |
| GrueMaster | I thought it had some omap3 detection for different systems. | 23:03 |
| rsalveti | so you're the one now asking if you can boot ubuntu at your nook color :-) | 23:03 |
| rsalveti | problem is the cpu id | 23:03 |
| GrueMaster | No, working on. | 23:03 |
| GrueMaster | Ah. | 23:03 |
| lilstevie | with some mods to the android kernel you could boot it though | 23:04 |
| GrueMaster | Yea, figured that. | 23:04 |
| lilstevie | thats what I did for the galaxy tab | 23:05 |
| GrueMaster | My first step was going to be to take their x-loader on our image. Guess I will need uboot & kernel as well. | 23:05 |
| GrueMaster | Galaxy tab has a different soc, doesn't it? | 23:06 |
| lilstevie | yeah it does | 23:07 |
| lilstevie | but the concept is the same | 23:07 |
| lilstevie | I replaced the android kernel with a patched up one | 23:07 |
| lilstevie | the nook could have the same thing | 23:07 |
| lilstevie | I mean it is hackier than using x-loader or u-boot | 23:07 |
| lilstevie | but as long as you don't have like kernel signing or something like that, your default bootloader will do it | 23:08 |
| GrueMaster | The specs on the Nook Color are Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz. | 23:08 |
| lilstevie | GrueMaster: ours is Samsungs hummingbird SoC @ 1GHz | 23:12 |
| ogra_ | GrueMaster, so you finally got one ? | 23:13 |
| GrueMaster | Yep. | 23:13 |
| ogra_ | congrats :) | 23:14 |
| ogra_ | i thought you wanted to wait for some dual core | 23:14 |
| GrueMaster | If I continue to wait, quad core procs will be out everywhere outside the US. | 23:15 |
| GrueMaster | Problem here is the only devices that are interesting are rediculously expensive. $500+ for anything with the Tegra2. | 23:16 |
| spikebike | umm | 23:17 |
| GrueMaster | Besides, the $250 I spent on this was what I would have spent on remodeling materials if my knee wasn't in pain. | 23:17 |
| spikebike | transformer = $400 | 23:17 |
| GrueMaster | spikebike: I have a limited budget unless I get creative. | 23:18 |
| spikebike | elocity = $320 ish | 23:18 |
| GrueMaster | And are they available in the US? | 23:18 |
| spikebike | gtablet = $300 ish | 23:18 |
| spikebike | ya | 23:18 |
| spikebike | there's this cool website for such things it's named after some big river | 23:18 |
| GrueMaster | Prices there are dropping fast. But this was available now. | 23:19 |
| ogra_ | seems the iconia comes out here on friday | 23:19 |
| spikebike | ya, I'm talking ship today | 23:19 |
| ogra_ | for 500€ | 23:19 |
| GrueMaster | Besides, the other deciding factor was http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110427052238659 | 23:20 |
| spikebike | I'm holding out for a nice 7-9" android table, decent quality screen, and honeycomb | 23:23 |
| spikebike | probably at least 50% used for e-reading | 23:23 |
| * ogra_ still cant make friends with backlit bookreading | 23:24 | |
| spikebike | btw, quads seem a ways off | 23:26 |
| spikebike | I suspect the dual cores will get significantly faster first | 23:26 |
| spikebike | heh, I use backlit screens for 60 hours a week or so | 23:27 |
| spikebike | I'm fine with it | 23:27 |
| spikebike | I want high update rate, high contrast, low latency | 23:27 |
| ogra_ | thats like looking into a torch 8h/day | 23:27 |
| spikebike | then I can choose when/if I want to reduce contrast | 23:27 |
| spikebike | ogra_: ya, one that you can control the brightness of | 23:28 |
| spikebike | so you get a nice gui, can handle watching videos, casual gaming, light email/web, etc. | 23:29 |
| GrueMaster | Hmm. Looking at the Nookbuntu post on forum.xda-developers.com (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055954). Takes a lot of work to get running. | 23:58 |
| spikebike | ya | 23:58 |
| spikebike | I'm gonna wait for something that's reasonable stock (I.e. works decent and has access to the market) | 23:58 |
| GrueMaster | Ugh. Uses angstrom stuff & requies a usb link to the pc to get X. Yuck. | 23:59 |
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