[04:52] <lilstevie> WOW
[04:52] <lilstevie> amstan and computerwiz_222 are way wrong
[04:52] <lilstevie> samsung galaxy tab is nothing like the viewsonic gtab
[05:35] <Neko> lilstevie, they're tegra and they're tablets how different can they be, really? :D
[05:36] <Neko> someone's going to have to kick a kernel around, but the board differences are going to be teensy tiny compared to finding a tegra kernel of decent pedigree
[05:40] <lilstevie> Neko: because the galaxy tab is not tegra
[05:40] <lilstevie> the galaxy tab is samsungs hummingbird core with SGX
[05:41] <lilstevie> for graphics
[05:41] <Neko> http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/02/tegra2-powers-new-samsung-galaxy-tab/
[05:42] <Neko> not the new one :D
[05:43] <lilstevie> heh well that is the 10.1v
[05:43] <lilstevie> which is a very small release cause the rest are exynos powered
[05:43] <lilstevie> which is samsungs own a9 core, with the mali400 GPU
[05:43] <lilstevie> or so it appears
[05:43] <lilstevie> it may have the sgx545
[05:43] <Neko> yeah samsung are chopping and changing.. it's gonna make not running android a pain in the ass if you want to support them all
[05:44] <lilstevie> heh
[05:44] <Neko> that said on a tablet I'd hardly want to run Ubuntu
[05:44] <lilstevie> well so far the galaxy s2 is exynos for consumer devices
[05:44] <lilstevie> only dev devices got tegra
[05:44] <lilstevie> heh
[05:44] <lilstevie> I run ubuntu on my galaxy tab
[05:44] <Neko> maybe for Oneric the multitouch thing will actually work?
[05:45] <Neko> so far as I kicked it around, it's basically "there but nobody uses it, so good luck!"
[05:45] <lilstevie> unity has multitouch in its core
[05:45] <Neko> in theory!
[05:45] <lilstevie> it kinda works :p
[05:45] <Neko> I can't think of any supported ARM devices that actually have a multitouch display
[05:46] <lilstevie> I really need 3D
[05:46] <Neko> I mean maybe it works on some super hyper extended omap4 dev board
[05:46] <lilstevie> it works on my tab :p
[05:46] <Neko> but that doesn't mean multitouch is production ready
[05:46] <lilstevie> its not
[05:47] <lilstevie> I said it works
[05:47] <lilstevie> not that it is usable
[05:47] <Neko> I guess we have to get our asses in gear and get a tablet out the door that's developer friendly
[05:50] <Neko> hmm anyone know if the mimomonitors 720s is multitouch?
[05:50] <Neko> that would make it easy for me to kick it around some more :D
[05:52] <lilstevie> heh no idea
[09:42] <kcin1> hi,i want to install skype on arm/ubuntu,and am missing libplayback which has been mentioned on this channel,anyone have it?
[09:44] <ogra_> i guess you have to pull the source package from maemo and compile it
[09:45] <kcin1> there is not even a source package
[09:51] <kcin1> or where should i look?
[15:33] <doko> janimo, ogra: do you know about an xorg-video-abi-9 package?
[15:33] <doko> for armel, the genesi netbook
[15:33] <doko> required by hrw's xserver-xorg-video-imx package
[15:33] <janimo> doko, never heard of it
[15:39] <doko> janimo: could you do an apt rebuild with the gcc-4.6 from unstable?
[15:39] <janimo> doko, from Debian sid you mean?
[15:39] <janimo> ok
[15:39] <doko> yes
[15:40] <doko> apt's oneiric sources built in unstable, to check if it's a Linaro issue
[15:41] <janimo> doko, ok, will try to get gcc from unstable - all gcc related packages? Or shall I build in  a chroot?
[15:41] <doko> chroot
[15:41] <janimo> ok
[16:02] <ogra_> doko, ask Neko about efika stuff, he probably has packages
[16:02] <Neko> doko, it's a virtual package which includes all the right server side includes...
[16:03] <Neko> it's so you can boot grab the right includes for whatever distro version in your pbuilder chroot or so otherwise you could only build the package for the distro release you're running
[16:03] <Neko> apt-get  build-dep will get it for you
[16:09] <doko> janimo: please build with -march=armv7-a -mfloat-abi=softfp -mfp=vfpv3-fp16
[16:11] <doko> Neko: which repository?
[22:56] <GrueMaster> rsalveti: Question on u-boot.  Does it support other omap3 based processors or only beagleboard ones.
[23:02] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: u-boot is still built for a specific machine
[23:02] <rsalveti> so u-boot-linaro-omap3-beagle provides only beagle support
[23:02] <GrueMaster> Reason I ask is I have a nook color (bought Saturday).
[23:03] <rsalveti> oh, cool
[23:03] <GrueMaster> I thought it had some omap3 detection for different systems.
[23:03] <rsalveti> so you're the one now asking if you can boot ubuntu at your nook color :-)
[23:03] <rsalveti> problem is the cpu id
[23:03] <GrueMaster> No, working on.
[23:03] <GrueMaster> Ah.
[23:04] <lilstevie> with some mods to the android kernel you could boot it though
[23:04] <GrueMaster> Yea, figured that.
[23:05] <lilstevie> thats what I did for the galaxy tab
[23:05] <GrueMaster> My first step was going to be to take their x-loader on our image.  Guess I will need uboot & kernel as well.
[23:06] <GrueMaster> Galaxy tab has a different soc, doesn't it?
[23:07] <lilstevie> yeah it does
[23:07] <lilstevie> but the concept is the same
[23:07] <lilstevie> I replaced the android kernel with a patched up one
[23:07] <lilstevie> the nook could have the same thing
[23:07] <lilstevie> I mean it is hackier than using x-loader or u-boot
[23:08] <lilstevie> but as long as you don't have like kernel signing or something like that, your default bootloader will do it
[23:08] <GrueMaster> The specs on the Nook Color are Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz.
[23:12] <lilstevie> GrueMaster: ours is Samsungs hummingbird SoC @ 1GHz
[23:13] <ogra_> GrueMaster, so you finally got one ?
[23:13] <GrueMaster> Yep.
[23:14] <ogra_> congrats :)
[23:14] <ogra_> i thought you wanted to wait for some dual core
[23:15] <GrueMaster> If I continue to wait, quad core procs will be out everywhere outside the US.
[23:16] <GrueMaster> Problem here is the only devices that are interesting are rediculously expensive.  $500+ for anything with the Tegra2.
[23:17] <spikebike> umm
[23:17] <GrueMaster> Besides, the $250 I spent on this was what I would have spent on remodeling materials if my knee wasn't in pain.
[23:17] <spikebike> transformer = $400
[23:18] <GrueMaster> spikebike: I have a limited budget unless I get creative.
[23:18] <spikebike> elocity = $320 ish
[23:18] <GrueMaster> And are they available in the US?
[23:18] <spikebike> gtablet = $300 ish
[23:18] <spikebike> ya
[23:18] <spikebike> there's this cool website for such things it's named after some big river
[23:19] <GrueMaster> Prices there are dropping fast.  But this was available now.
[23:19] <ogra_> seems the iconia comes out here on friday
[23:19] <spikebike> ya, I'm talking ship today
[23:19] <ogra_> for 500€
[23:20] <GrueMaster> Besides, the other deciding factor was http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110427052238659
[23:23] <spikebike> I'm holding out for a nice 7-9" android table, decent quality screen, and honeycomb
[23:23] <spikebike> probably at least 50% used for e-reading
[23:24]  * ogra_ still cant make friends with backlit bookreading
[23:26] <spikebike> btw, quads seem a ways off
[23:26] <spikebike> I suspect the dual cores will get significantly faster first
[23:27] <spikebike> heh, I use backlit screens for 60 hours a week or so
[23:27] <spikebike> I'm fine with it
[23:27] <spikebike> I want high update rate, high contrast, low latency
[23:27] <ogra_> thats like looking into a torch 8h/day
[23:27] <spikebike> then I can choose when/if I want to reduce contrast
[23:28] <spikebike> ogra_: ya, one that you can control the brightness of
[23:29] <spikebike> so you get a nice gui, can handle watching videos, casual gaming, light email/web, etc.
[23:58] <GrueMaster> Hmm.  Looking at the Nookbuntu post on forum.xda-developers.com (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055954).  Takes a lot of work to get running.
[23:58] <spikebike> ya
[23:58] <spikebike> I'm gonna wait for something that's reasonable stock (I.e. works decent and has access to the market)
[23:59] <GrueMaster> Ugh.  Uses angstrom stuff & requies a usb link to the pc to get X.  Yuck.