=== micahg_ is now known as micahg [04:52] WOW [04:52] amstan and computerwiz_222 are way wrong [04:52] samsung galaxy tab is nothing like the viewsonic gtab [05:35] lilstevie, they're tegra and they're tablets how different can they be, really? :D [05:36] someone's going to have to kick a kernel around, but the board differences are going to be teensy tiny compared to finding a tegra kernel of decent pedigree [05:40] Neko: because the galaxy tab is not tegra [05:40] the galaxy tab is samsungs hummingbird core with SGX [05:41] for graphics [05:41] http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/02/tegra2-powers-new-samsung-galaxy-tab/ [05:42] not the new one :D [05:43] heh well that is the 10.1v [05:43] which is a very small release cause the rest are exynos powered [05:43] which is samsungs own a9 core, with the mali400 GPU [05:43] or so it appears [05:43] it may have the sgx545 [05:43] yeah samsung are chopping and changing.. it's gonna make not running android a pain in the ass if you want to support them all [05:44] heh [05:44] that said on a tablet I'd hardly want to run Ubuntu [05:44] well so far the galaxy s2 is exynos for consumer devices [05:44] only dev devices got tegra [05:44] heh [05:44] I run ubuntu on my galaxy tab [05:44] maybe for Oneric the multitouch thing will actually work? [05:45] so far as I kicked it around, it's basically "there but nobody uses it, so good luck!" [05:45] unity has multitouch in its core [05:45] in theory! [05:45] it kinda works :p [05:45] I can't think of any supported ARM devices that actually have a multitouch display [05:46] I really need 3D [05:46] I mean maybe it works on some super hyper extended omap4 dev board [05:46] it works on my tab :p [05:46] but that doesn't mean multitouch is production ready [05:46] its not [05:47] I said it works [05:47] not that it is usable [05:47] I guess we have to get our asses in gear and get a tablet out the door that's developer friendly [05:50] hmm anyone know if the mimomonitors 720s is multitouch? [05:50] that would make it easy for me to kick it around some more :D [05:52] heh no idea [09:42] hi,i want to install skype on arm/ubuntu,and am missing libplayback which has been mentioned on this channel,anyone have it? [09:44] i guess you have to pull the source package from maemo and compile it [09:45] there is not even a source package [09:51] or where should i look? [15:33] janimo, ogra: do you know about an xorg-video-abi-9 package? [15:33] for armel, the genesi netbook [15:33] required by hrw's xserver-xorg-video-imx package [15:33] doko, never heard of it [15:39] janimo: could you do an apt rebuild with the gcc-4.6 from unstable? [15:39] doko, from Debian sid you mean? [15:39] ok [15:39] yes [15:40] apt's oneiric sources built in unstable, to check if it's a Linaro issue [15:41] doko, ok, will try to get gcc from unstable - all gcc related packages? Or shall I build in a chroot? [15:41] chroot [15:41] ok === Jack87|Away is now known as Jack87 [16:02] doko, ask Neko about efika stuff, he probably has packages [16:02] doko, it's a virtual package which includes all the right server side includes... [16:03] it's so you can boot grab the right includes for whatever distro version in your pbuilder chroot or so otherwise you could only build the package for the distro release you're running [16:03] apt-get build-dep will get it for you [16:09] janimo: please build with -march=armv7-a -mfloat-abi=softfp -mfp=vfpv3-fp16 [16:11] Neko: which repository? === Jack87 is now known as Jack87|Away === zyga is now known as zyga-afk === Sarvatt_ is now known as Sarvatt [22:56] rsalveti: Question on u-boot. Does it support other omap3 based processors or only beagleboard ones. [23:02] GrueMaster: u-boot is still built for a specific machine [23:02] so u-boot-linaro-omap3-beagle provides only beagle support [23:02] Reason I ask is I have a nook color (bought Saturday). [23:03] oh, cool [23:03] I thought it had some omap3 detection for different systems. [23:03] so you're the one now asking if you can boot ubuntu at your nook color :-) [23:03] problem is the cpu id [23:03] No, working on. [23:03] Ah. [23:04] with some mods to the android kernel you could boot it though [23:04] Yea, figured that. [23:05] thats what I did for the galaxy tab [23:05] My first step was going to be to take their x-loader on our image. Guess I will need uboot & kernel as well. [23:06] Galaxy tab has a different soc, doesn't it? [23:07] yeah it does [23:07] but the concept is the same [23:07] I replaced the android kernel with a patched up one [23:07] the nook could have the same thing [23:07] I mean it is hackier than using x-loader or u-boot [23:08] but as long as you don't have like kernel signing or something like that, your default bootloader will do it [23:08] The specs on the Nook Color are Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz. [23:12] GrueMaster: ours is Samsungs hummingbird SoC @ 1GHz [23:13] GrueMaster, so you finally got one ? [23:13] Yep. [23:14] congrats :) [23:14] i thought you wanted to wait for some dual core [23:15] If I continue to wait, quad core procs will be out everywhere outside the US. [23:16] Problem here is the only devices that are interesting are rediculously expensive. $500+ for anything with the Tegra2. [23:17] umm [23:17] Besides, the $250 I spent on this was what I would have spent on remodeling materials if my knee wasn't in pain. [23:17] transformer = $400 [23:18] spikebike: I have a limited budget unless I get creative. [23:18] elocity = $320 ish [23:18] And are they available in the US? [23:18] gtablet = $300 ish [23:18] ya [23:18] there's this cool website for such things it's named after some big river [23:19] Prices there are dropping fast. But this was available now. [23:19] seems the iconia comes out here on friday [23:19] ya, I'm talking ship today [23:19] for 500€ [23:20] Besides, the other deciding factor was http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110427052238659 [23:23] I'm holding out for a nice 7-9" android table, decent quality screen, and honeycomb [23:23] probably at least 50% used for e-reading [23:24] * ogra_ still cant make friends with backlit bookreading [23:26] btw, quads seem a ways off [23:26] I suspect the dual cores will get significantly faster first [23:27] heh, I use backlit screens for 60 hours a week or so [23:27] I'm fine with it [23:27] I want high update rate, high contrast, low latency [23:27] thats like looking into a torch 8h/day [23:27] then I can choose when/if I want to reduce contrast [23:28] ogra_: ya, one that you can control the brightness of [23:29] so you get a nice gui, can handle watching videos, casual gaming, light email/web, etc. [23:58] Hmm. Looking at the Nookbuntu post on forum.xda-developers.com (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055954). Takes a lot of work to get running. [23:58] ya [23:58] I'm gonna wait for something that's reasonable stock (I.e. works decent and has access to the market) [23:59] Ugh. Uses angstrom stuff & requies a usb link to the pc to get X. Yuck.