=== RAOF_ is now known as RAOF === micahg_ is now known as micahg [01:53] Woa! Oneiric open already. That was quick./ [01:55] how long would you like it to take? [02:00] I don't care how long it takes or how short a time it takes, I'm just used to it being half a week or so. [02:01] yeah I'm used it to taking a few days but it was open within hours of release [03:33] RAOF: When you use tmpfs for sbuild, do you give any particular mount options for the tmpfs filesystem? [03:34] TheMuso: “none on /var/lib/schroot/union/tmpfs-overlay type tmpfs (rw)”. So, no :) [03:34] TheMuso: Are you seeing some problem? [03:34] RAOF: Ah ok, you use a unionfs setup for it as well? [03:35] RAOF: No, I'm looking to set it up. [03:35] TheMuso: Yeah. aufs merges the chroot underlay and the tmpfs overlay. [03:35] Now that I have more RAM in my desktop, I can use some of it for fast building. [03:35] :) [03:35] RAOF: Is there a guide on how to do this somewhere? [03:36] TheMuso: Not that I'm aware of, no. [03:36] Ah ok [03:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/602092/ is my relevant sbuild-natty-amd64 snippet in /etc/schroot/chroot.d [03:37] ah ok thanks [03:37] The top entry is exactly what mk-sbuild produces, the subsequent entries are that + customisations. [03:40] SO which one of the tmpfs ones do you use, or do you use all of them? [03:51] I use all of them. [03:52] There are basically two variants there; natty-amd64 and natty-local-amd64, and both of those has a tmpfs and non-tmpfs config. [03:52] natty-amd64 is simple. natty-local-amd64 is natty-amd64 + a local repository of my build output, which makes it nice for X transitions. [03:55] ok thought as much., [03:55] I am going to leverage this a little differently. [03:55] A combination of tmpfs overlay, or LVM snapshots. [03:56] Yeah. [03:56] Incidentally, if you're interested in local-packages, it just containst http://paste.ubuntu.com/602098/ as fstab and http://paste.ubuntu.com/602099/ as config [03:57] oh ok thanks. [03:57] I think mk-sbuild-lv needs to be extended to do all this stuff I think. [03:59] Yeah, probably. [03:59] Now that I *look* at local-packages it's entirely possible to make mk-sbuild-lv do a tmpfs overlay really easily. [04:00] Build-against-built-packages is a little bit more difficult, as it requires bind-mounting the build output directory somewhere. [04:00] Yep. [04:01] Probably recommending/checking that the user has minimum 2GB RAM, maybe more. [04:06] Hoowaaahh! THis kicks LVM snapshots to the curbe and back 5 times over. :) [04:06] s/c [04:13] I guess my only other question is whether the RAM allocated to tmpfs can be used for other things if needed without having to unmount the tmpfs. [04:13] But a good google should answer that. [04:15] Ah, dynamically allocated. [04:15] Thats good. [04:17] It'll by default only grow to 50% of your total ram. That can be a bit annoying. [04:17] Yeah I see that. Well my desktop and new thinkpad both have 8GB, so I don't think that will be a problem for a while. [04:18] I also plan to set up VMs for some various testing a11y wise, so that RAM will be gobbled up in various ways in time. [04:18] Yeah, and you're not building mesa or the kernel. [04:18] Yup. [04:19] For sufficiently small things (most of the mono packages we have) I've benchmarked building on tmpfs to be ~3 times faster than the lvm snapshot route. dpkg really, *really* likes unpacking on a tmpfs :) [04:20] I noticed. [04:20] Eatmydata, eat your heart out. [04:20] * micahg has had fun with /dev/shm and seamonkey/xulrunner [04:22] Oh, hey. That ubuntu-dev-tools branch moving mk-sbuild chroots into chroot.d hasn't landed? [04:25] chroot.d? [04:25] Is that something new that schroot supports? If so, very nice. [04:25] Anyway, oneiric and natty chroots set up for tmpfs overlay support for now. [04:26] Yeah. [04:28] Oooh, and that branch properly supports debian-experimental? Yes please. [04:28] RAOF: You should have the privs to review/merge that right? [04:29] * TheMuso -> lunch [04:29] Let's see. [06:29] RAOF: Thought you had the privs to do that. :) [06:29] Since you are an ubuntu-dev. [06:29] Yup. [06:29] Turns out I do :) [06:32] Good morning [06:32] * pitti waves from Augsburg [06:33] Hey pitti./ [06:33] hi pitti [06:34] Hey pitti :) [06:34] it's nice to unpack boxes for a change :) [06:35] TheMuso: Facing problems with integrating SpamAssassin in mailman? [06:35] cdbs: No, I just wish that the canonical list servers were better integrated with spam asassin. [06:36] I moderate some a11y lists, and mail that is spam makes its way into the moderatino queues, even though the reason given is that the mail is possible spam. [06:36] So just venting my frustration I guess. [07:03] good morning everyone [07:03] Hey chrisccoulson. [07:03] hey chrisccoulson, how are you? [07:03] hi TheMuso, how are you? [07:04] chrisccoulson: Well thanks, yourself? [07:04] hi pitti, i'm good thanks, how are you? [07:04] chrisccoulson: did you enjoy seeing the world breaking out in tears when the new couple kissed? :-) [07:04] TheMuso, yeah, good thanks. although, my daughter woke me up at 5.30 this morning ;) [07:04] pitti - no, i didn't watch it ;) [07:04] I watched that service, and the music was really beautiful. [07:04] chrisccoulson: I'm quite well, thanks! sore muscles due to the moving, but it all went well [07:05] I caught 10 minutes of it when we had lunch in a Chinese bistro on Friday [07:05] TO me, the wedding service was the best part of the day, everything else was secondary. [07:05] s/TO/for/ [07:09] i had quite a productive day on friday [07:09] i've got firefox building its own language packs now :) [07:12] Nice. [07:17] i had a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop and want to find the packaging stuff for gtk3 but found different branches named gtk3. what's the main branch used for oneiric? [07:18] there are: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gtk/ubuntugtk3 and lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-desktop/ubuntu-gtk3 and lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-desktop/ubuntugtk3 [09:11] morning [09:13] hey desktopers [09:13] hey rodrigo_ [09:14] hi seb128 [09:26] bonjour seb128, ca va? [09:26] seb128: are you already in Budapest? [09:26] hey pitti, bien et toi ? [09:26] pitti, no, going there tomorrow [09:26] seb128: *me waves to you from Augsburg* [09:26] seb128: moving went well, just my muscles are aching :) [09:27] we are sitting amongst a huge pile of boxes still, of course :) [09:27] good [09:27] pitti, so you have a week to unpack a bit and UDS then? ;-) [09:28] seb128: we'll need more time for that, we still need to buy a lot of furniture (we threw most of our old and shabby stuff away) [09:29] seb128: but the kitchen is complete, and working desk and clothing closet are done [09:29] right, I didn't suggest you would be done with the moving at the end of the week, just that you will have to time to relax ;-) [09:29] and this evening we should get DSL [09:29] so the most basic stuff is working :) [09:29] great [09:30] * pitti hugs his laptop's builtin 3G antenna; 3G on the mobile phone is rather weak [09:33] hey pitti, how was the move? [09:35] seb128, for merging the gnome3 branches, do we merge the whole history to ~ubuntu-desktop branch, or just do an update with all the changes? [09:37] rodrigo_, that's what I was asking on friday, not sure if you read, what I went for is merging the gnome3-team commits i.e keeping the vcs history but cleaning the changelog and summarizing in one entry [09:37] ok [09:38] well I suggest rebasing on debian at the same time and we do summarize the remaining diff usually when doing that [09:38] althouugh, well, if we don't keep the changelog history, do we really need the bzr history? [09:38] yes, I'm first merging the gnome3 branch with debian changes, and then with the ~ubuntu-desktop branch [09:39] I did it the other way around, I merge the gnome3 vcs in the ubuntu-desktop one [09:39] rodrigo_, will the gnome3 natty ppa be kept up to date? or will you push only in the natty+1 repository? [09:39] then reviewed the diff [09:40] xclaesse, I guess I'll do both [09:40] xclaesse, the ppa will keep being community maintained, contributions to keep it updated are welcome [09:40] seb128, ok [09:41] rodrigo_: I don't think the PPA bzr history is that interesting in bzr, but if you merge the branches, we'll retain it anyway? [09:41] rodrigo_: I don't think the PPA bzr history is that interesting in bzr, but if you merge the branches, we'll retain it anyway? [09:41] rodrigo_, on whether we really need the gnome3 vcs history, not sure but it's somewhat nice to keep record of community contributions there [09:41] pitti, yeah, was not sure how to do the merge, since I need to review it (because of disabled patches, etc) [09:41] but I've no strong opinion either way [09:42] what I did is merge as a first commit [09:42] clean as a second one [09:42] rebase on debian as the next one [09:42] but yes, makes sense to merge the gnome3 ppa and then the debian one [09:42] well "merge, clean, diff and rebase" [09:43] yes [09:44] seb128, ok, I hope that will be enough :) [09:54] morning [10:01] rodrigo_: what should I do with my merge requests? should I wait for the PPA to be merged into oneiric? [10:01] jbicha, what pending requests do you have? [10:01] https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/natty/nautilus/gnome3ppa-dot-desktop/+merge/59612 [10:02] jbicha, if the gnome3 branch hasn't been merged yet to oneiric, go ahead and propose for merging into the ~gnome3-team branch [10:02] if it has been merged, I guess it's ok to propose a branch for both the ~ubuntu-desktop one and the ~gnome3-team one [10:02] so that we keep the ppa up-to-datew [10:02] and https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/gnome-session/gnome3-support-ubuntu-session/+merge/59604 [10:02] they haven't been merged yet [10:03] jbicha, right, I'll merge them to the gnome3-team branches [10:03] ok, thanks [10:03] just curious if they will get pushed back to the PPA since the ability to launch other sessions [10:04] is important for the Natty users also [10:04] yes [10:04] I guess once we have everything merged, we can just dput natty versions to the PPA [10:05] although we0'll soon start getting 3.1.x updates, so not sure if we want those in the PPA [10:05] probably not but I don't think people are using the PPA for stability, lol [10:05] kenvandine, seb128: you probably want to backport that fix in natty: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=648842 Or I can do a 2.34 release if you prefer [10:05] Gnome bug 648842 in Notifications "Notifications are delayed if contacts send messages too fast" [Major,Resolved: fixed] [10:07] cassidy, backporting a commit is fine no need to roll a tarball, thanks for pointing it [10:07] seb128, there are few other fixes in 2.34 that you may be interested in [10:08] cassidy, if you feel like you have enough fixes there to roll a tarball feel free to roll one ;-) [10:11] oki :) I'll consider doing one but for now you can already backport the fix I think [10:12] ok [10:25] jbicha, your nautilus branch is now merged and package uploaded [10:26] jbicha, will merge the g-session one later, I need to run some errands now [10:26] bbib [10:26] bbiab [10:30] rodrigo_: thank you! [10:38] hey seb128 [10:38] how are you? [10:39] hey chrisccoulson, I'm fine thanks, what about you? [10:39] seb128 - yeah, good thanks. enjoying another public holiday in the UK ;) [10:39] i'm starting to feel like a slacker with all these long weekends ;) [10:39] oh right, is that the first of may which happened to be on a sunday that you get back on monday? [10:39] ;-) [10:40] are you in budapest yet? [10:40] no, going there tomorrow [10:43] i hope my laptop charger lasts for UDS. the connector started falling apart yesterday :/ [10:46] urg [10:47] what do you do to your laptop, you would almost make people believe dell laptop are not robust ;-) [11:20] rodrigo_, bug #728803 is another bug with vm and gsd [11:20] Launchpad bug 728803 in gnome-settings-daemon "Ubuntu theme switches from partially broken to gnome default on VirtualBox guest" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728803 [11:20] just for info [11:24] rodrigo_, could you add bug #760523 to your list? [11:24] Launchpad bug 760523 in gnome-panel "clock-applet: clicking on a calendar date opens the same number one monther earlier in Evolution" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760523 [11:36] seb128, yes [11:38] rodrigo_, bug #752040 as well seems worth investigating [11:38] Launchpad bug 752040 in evolution "Evolution setup label not visible" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/752040 [11:39] ok [11:42] rodrigo_, bug #773763 as well, I think you are set for week ;-) [11:42] Launchpad bug 773763 in evolution "evolution freeze on startup with the plug-in "evolution-rss"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/773763 [11:42] seb128, :) [11:43] rodrigo_, those are things I spotted in the weekend backlog that might be worth sru-ing, just try to look at those when you some time, they are not very high priority but still would be nice to investigate [11:43] seb128, yes, looking at them now [11:43] rodrigo_, it don't drop other work you do for those but try to get some worked between 2 GNOME3 updates ;-) [11:43] it->ie [11:43] rodrigo_, thanks [11:44] ok [11:47] rodrigo_, oh and bug #773063 ;-) [11:47] Launchpad bug 773063 in gnome-control-center "[Natty] gnome-about-me box doesn't remember contents" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/773063 [11:47] really done then ;-) [11:47] time for lunch [11:47] seb128, heh [11:47] rodrigo_, welcome to the team :p [11:48] this one seems around for a while but I didn't really put it on any list before since the capplet goes away next cycle [11:48] but since some users seem to be bothered by it, maybe let's fix it in natty if it's easy [11:48] ok, lunch, bbl [11:50] seb128, enjoy [12:07] mvo, I see there's an UNRELEASED entry from you in gnome-panel's ubuntu-desktop branch, so have you already submitted that for natty-proposed? [12:10] mvo, I have a fix to submit, so if you haven't, can I submit both your fix and mine? [12:10] rodrigo_, was that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6.4 [12:10] ? [12:11] yes, seems so [12:11] ok, so he probably forgot to push the update when he uploaded [12:11] yes, ok [12:12] seb128, the fix for #760523 coming then [12:12] rodrigo_, thanks [12:12] seb128, so, for natty-proposed updates, if we still haven't merged the 3.0 version in ~ubuntu-desktop branch, we use those branches, right? [12:12] rodrigo_, don't upload, I will include another git commit to fix applets on dual xorg server configs [12:12] rodrigo_: ups, sorry for the forgotten push [12:13] rodrigo_, yes [12:13] seb128, ok, do I leave the changelog entry with UNRELEASED? [12:13] rodrigo_, yes [12:13] ok [12:13] seb128, rodrigo_: will one of you add my changelog entry (from the upload) or should I do that now [12:13] also, I need to subscribe ubuntu-sru to the bug, right? [12:13] rodrigo_, the other commit is http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-panel/commit/?id=cb969e989477e2671d1e0cdd1519866d61d0c98c [12:14] mvo, doing it myself now with the push [12:14] rodrigo_, do you want to backport it as well or do you want me to do it? [12:14] seb128, I'll do it [12:14] thanks rodrigo_ [12:14] rodrigo_, you can subscribe ubuntu-sru yes [12:14] rodrigo_, thanks, bug #774427 is the one that the commit close [12:14] Launchpad bug 774427 in gnome-panel "Cannot add applets to second X server display in 11.04" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774427 [12:15] seb128, ok, including that in my commit, so do I upload then? [12:15] rodrigo_, yes please [12:15] seb128, and push without the UNRELEASED thing, right? [12:16] rodrigo_, well as you want, usually what I do is "fix 1 bug, commit, fix second bug, commit, check that things are ready for upload, dch -r, debcommit -r, push" [12:16] ok [12:17] rodrigo_, that's an sru so usually it's -proposed target for upload and .1 version, i.e ubuntu6.5 for that one and natty-proposed [12:17] ok [12:17] rodrigo_, once you have uploaded make sure ubuntu-sru is subscribe to both bugs and set the natty bug to "fix commited" [12:25] vuntz, ping [12:29] seb128, only one thing not clear, do I build the .changes with the UNRELEASED string in changelog? [12:29] rodrigo_, no [12:30] ok [12:30] rodrigo_, dch -r should change it to natty, you might need to manually change to natty-proposed [12:30] that was confusing me, I thought you said to upload before dch -r [12:30] dch -r; debcommit -r and push before uploading basically [12:30] ah, ok [12:31] rodrigo_, well I said ""fix 1 bug, commit, fix second bug, commit, check that things are ready for upload, dch -r, debcommit -r, push"" [12:31] right [12:31] the "upload" is after that sequence [12:31] sorry if that was not clear ;-) [12:33] seb128, sorry, my fault :) [12:33] no worry! ;-) [12:34] ugh [12:34] Uploading gnome-panel_2.32.1-0ubuntu6.5_source.changes: 2k/3k550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ["(7, 9, u'No public key')", "(7, 9, u'No public key')", "(7, 9, u'No public key')"] : Permission denied. [12:34] Note: This error might indicate a problem with your passive_ftp setting. [12:34] Please consult dput.cf(5) for details on this configuration option. [12:36] ah, but it's in the queue [12:36] rodrigo_: known issue [12:36] so I guess this error is harmless [12:36] rodrigo_: misleading [12:36] but harmless [12:36] ok [12:37] ok, I think I didn't break anything then :) [12:56] rodrigo_, heh, congrats on your first desktop upload! :-) [12:57] :) [13:04] seb128, pitti: Anyone having a minute to counter-check a blogpost? [13:04] Sweetshark: hey Bjoern, how are you? sure [13:05] hey Sweetshark, can do yes [13:08] pitti: everything is fine. Just wondering about planning for O. Estimating efforts is always tricky ... [13:08] Sweetshark: btw, can you please rename your specs to have an "desktop-o-" prefix? [13:10] seb128, pitti: https://pastebin.canonical.com/46989/ <- blogpost text, seems innocent enough to me but is one of my first statements and will end up right at planet documentfoundation ... [13:11] Sweetshark, seems fine to me as well ;-) [13:11] pitti: sure, but maybe a wait another day as jasoncwarner might click on the links in the mail right now? [13:11] Sweetshark: "are consistently used" -> "are consistently being used", I think [13:11] Sweetshark: and Rene might not be happy to see his name in an Ubuntuish announcement? [13:12] Sweetshark: otherwise it sounds nice to me [13:22] ok, lunch time, bbl [13:45] good morning [13:46] hi bcurtiswx [13:46] quiet today [13:47] rickspencer3, could be the sprint this week in Hungary [13:47] bcurtiswx, yeah [13:47] also, I think in UK it's a holiday too [13:49] ah, didn't know that [13:50] should be quiet :) [13:50] gives me time to prepare specs :) [13:50] hi kenvandine [13:50] hey rickspencer3 [13:51] good afternoon (right?) kenvandine [13:51] morning :) [13:51] i haven't left yet [13:51] ah, OK [13:51] hey kenvandine [13:51] hey pitti [13:51] * pitti waves to rickspencer3, too [13:51] bcurtiswx, i am traveling wed [13:52] * rickspencer3 waves to pitti [14:08] pitti: ping. got time for an SRU upload? [14:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/529714 [14:08] Launchpad bug 529714 in samba "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in _nss_wins_gethostbyname_r()" [Critical,Triaged] [14:09] hyperair: there's currently a samba in -proposed already for bug 771305, which needs testing first [14:09] Launchpad bug 771305 in samba "smbd does not start on first boot with 20110426" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771305 [14:09] hmm, okay. [14:10] * hyperair sighs [14:10] why didn't the patches just go together..? [14:10] hyperair: if it's urgent, you can merge this version, and prepare a source with debuild -S -v2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2 to include the previous changelog [14:11] then we can test both in parallel [14:11] ah, okay, thanks. [14:12] pitti: aside of that, could you syncpackage libgpod 0.8.0-3 from debian? there's a LP bug linked in there, something about the mono bindings and stuff getting synced wrongly [14:13] done [14:14] pitti: thanks. === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [14:33] looks like the armel buildd is broken. [14:33] sh: gcc: not found [14:34] hyperair, bug 774175 [14:34] Launchpad bug 774175 in apt "apt segfaults on armel in oneiric" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774175 [14:35] cant install anything in the build root atm... [14:35] ogra_: that's weird, my build log shows that apt succeeded. [14:35] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/70927917/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.libgpod_0.8.0-3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [14:36] yeah, the logs are a bit weird [14:36] the root cause is apt though [14:36] hmm i see. [14:36] how very strange. [15:05] pitti: I would need you to shamelessly lie a bit about me not breaking stuff all the time at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BjoernMichaelsen/DeveloperApplication [15:07] lol [15:09] * Laney takes notes [15:10] hehe [15:12] Laney: for PPU applications, can i transplant the endorsements from my MOTU Application, or do i need new fresh ones? [15:13] hyperair: I'd like to see ones specific to the application [15:13] i.e. from your sponsors of libgpod [15:13] Laney: ah, like directhex? =D [15:14] ;) [15:14] pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/529714/+attachment/2106114/+files/debdiff-debuglevel-2.patch [15:14] Launchpad bug 529714 in samba "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in _nss_wins_gethostbyname_r()" [Critical,Triaged] [15:15] bryceh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/762343 :P cool picture [15:15] Launchpad bug 762343 in unity "Can't drag window by titlebar if launched from .xprofile" [Undecided,New] [15:15] Laney: do i need other endorsements, or only those specific to the package? [15:20] hyperair: i'd be happy with just specific ones [15:20] alright. [15:22] Sweetshark: with pleasure [15:22] hrmm [15:22] what tz is jason in? [15:22] bryceh++ [15:24] dobey: Sydney usually, but he works odd hours [15:26] bryceh, are you using default theme? [15:27] ok, that's what i thought. [15:28] and i was wanting to beg for blueprint approvals :) [15:29] pitti: can i beg you to get packages from natty-proposed into natty-updates? [15:31] dobey: sure! I accept beer and shoulder massages [15:32] or making the Telekom engineer appear who is supposed to enable our phone/DSL connector :) [15:32] pitti: great; ubuntuone-storage-protocol and ubuntuone-client are all verification-done :) [15:32] hehe [15:32] dobey: you want the ubuntuone-* stuff? [15:32] dobey: we usually wait for 7 days, but right now a lot more people are testing -proposed, so we can be lenient; copying now [15:33] pitti: well, these were supposed to be 0-day SRUs, but alas :) [15:50] dobey: iirc jasson said is is working in "san francisco timezone" hours ... [15:50] dunno if that is still valid though. [16:27] vuntz, hey [16:27] vuntz, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649176 do you have any pointer on how,where it got fixed? would that apply to 2.32? [16:27] Gnome bug 649176 in notification area "QT app icons are one pixel in notification area" [Critical,Needinfo] [16:31] seb128: 41d0e690edfe952a4ff8b8f6ea01cb9cb09695f7 [16:32] vuntz, thanks! [16:32] seb128: that could fix it, but I'm not sure if that's the same issue. At least, same symptoms [16:34] jcastro, hi, are you able to reproduce bug 775657? [16:34] Launchpad bug 775657 in unity "unity can't raise right-aligned chromium windows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/775657 [16:36] fta: I get something even weirder [16:36] fta: I get a white box on the top left that say chromium, I have to click the icon again to get it to work [16:37] doh [16:37] never got that one [16:43] fta: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/chromium.png [16:43] fta: that's when I have chromium windows running [16:43] (I have chrome windows on another desktop so don't let icon confuse you, I tested this with a daily) [16:44] jcastro, hm, could it be an extension? do you also see that with --temp-profile? [16:46] not sure, I'm busy with OW and UDS right now, I'll ping you -mozillateam when I get a chance to mess with it [16:47] jcastro, sure (but you should be able to test without touching your existing sessions, it just start a new instance with a new volatile profile, and trash it when you close it) [16:54] oh, no mterry [16:55] seb128, do you know anything about the diffs in NTP between debian and ubuntu? [16:55] or anyone else? [16:55] rodrigo_, gsd you mean? [16:56] yes [16:56] I'm trying to rebase the patch we have in 2.32, but there's code in upstream gsd to deal with debian -> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/tree/plugins/datetime [16:56] so I wonder if we can just use that and remove the patch in our package [16:58] if not, it'd be better to write an upstream patch [16:59] but don't worry, I'll ask mterry when he's around [17:08] good night everyone! [17:08] 'night pitti [17:08] rodrigo_, he's away this week [17:08] (FYI, I'm shifting my work hours to be a bit earlier, as my wife gets up at 6) [17:08] rodrigo_, I think mterry forwarded his patch upstream [17:08] seb128, ok, will look for it in bugzilla [17:09] ok, so only 3 more patches to rebase left, almost done! :-D [17:10] ;-) [17:12] night pitti! [17:43] seb128: ping, can I also claim a few GNOME3 work items this cycle? [17:44] seb128: for the gnome/gtk 3 session, should we discuss webkit2+gtk3 by default? [17:44] dobey: what webkit2? [17:45] micahg: ./configure --enable-webkit2 in the webkit source. it does plug-ins in external process and some other improvements [17:45] dobey: Does GNOME 3 or 3.2 use it or plan to use it? [17:46] dobey: webkit2 isn't stable yet AFAIK, I'd want to stick to the stable branch [17:46] cdbs: it's not a separate library. it's just a "how you build webkit" thing; eventually it will be the default upstream in webkit [17:47] hmm [17:47] cdbs: so if you build with it enabled, epiphany/yelp/etc use it, afaik [17:47] dobey: niche [17:47] but we don't want unstable components in [17:48] probably, just my guess [18:35] pitti, fyi, bug 748881 [18:35] Launchpad bug 748881 in chromium-browser "Update SVG logo" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/748881 [18:36] how can i disable dh_scour? [18:46]