[00:00] i am building on x86_64 [00:00] (and it builds) [00:01] \o/ [00:01] you want it built for 10.04? [00:02] there goes that idea then :) [00:02] popey: that'd only really be a stopcap, I like to keep things up to date [00:02] wow, we must have been through this before [00:02] I have a znc ppa [00:02] oh fun :p [00:02] I really need to check and see if I can build other projects besides znc [00:02] * Azelphur thinks of something to try and build [00:02] cowsay [00:03] is cowsay c++? :P [00:03] Azelphur: openoffice? ;) [00:03] hamitron: on a server so don't really wanna pull all those dependencies [00:04] xorg? [00:04] ;p [00:04] interesting that it didn't die on the same file in both pastes [00:04] yea, it seems to move around [00:04] * TheOpenSourcerer is back from t' pub. A great live band Jazz/Funk stuff. Very enjoyable. === MarquessDeBonBon is now known as OmNomDeBonBon [00:12] ok [00:12] no more minecraft tonight [00:12] :/ [00:12] 5 hours straight :/ [00:13] I've found weather has kinda solved minecraft for me. I play until it rains, and then disconnect :/ [00:13] haha [00:13] I kinda like the weather [00:13] I wish snow settled [00:13] and that water mod someone showed was cool [00:13] Just tried compiling inspircd, which is also C++ [00:14] then it could rain to "top up" the ocean [00:14] same crash, my g++ is screwed somehow [00:14] does gcc work? [00:14] hamitron: clearly not, I get the same internal compiler error: segmentation fault error, while compiling 4 different versions of ZNC and inspircd [00:15] :/ [00:15] does it compile hello world? [00:15] dunno [00:16] run it in gcc [00:16] Azelphur: Does it seg fault in the same place each time? [00:16] i mean gdb [00:16] hello.cpp is a fine idea. narrow it down to the simplest case [00:16] snow does settle doesn't it hamitron? freezes water and puts snow on grass/leaves? [00:17] it does? [00:17] that just shows how much I've taken notice [00:17] :D [00:18] anyone here got a vodafone dongle? [00:18] ali1234: http://pastebin.com/yznPjuw3 I probably did it wrong :p [00:18] Azelphur: yes [00:19] you ran make in gdb [00:19] you need to find the g++ command that make runs that causes the crash [00:19] and then run that in gdb [00:19] line 101 in that paste? [00:19] exactly [00:19] i keep wanting to make an ice-house in minecraft by freezing layers of water, but weather takes so long :( [00:19] gotta figure out which directory it was in when it ran it too [00:19] make likes to cd a lot [00:20] top level of znc by the look of it [00:20] Azelphur: If you run it again do you get exactly the same failure at the same line? [00:20] it references modules/foo [00:20] or rather inspirecd [00:20] -e [00:21] penguin42: nope, It happens in different files pretty much every time [00:21] but it's always Internal compiler error: Segmentation fault [00:21] * TheOpenSourcerer wonders if popey ever sleeps? [00:21] rarely [00:21] Azelphur: OK, then in that case it's much more likely you have bad ram or other hardware - Gcc is very good at finding it [00:21] I've had a feeling I have had bad memory [00:21] :/ [00:21] I wonder how I can test that on a server I have no physical access to [00:21] Azelphur: Then run memtest86 [00:21] uhm [00:22] Azelphur: have you run g++ in gdb yet? [00:22] before assuming its hardware :) [00:22] popey: working on it, not sure how to pass arguments to gdb :p [00:22] if it always crashes in a different place it;s not reproducable :) [00:22] Azelphur: gdb g++ [00:22] gdb g++ -o modules/cmd_unloadmodule.so -pipe -fPIC -DPIC -pedantic -Woverloaded-virtual -Wshadow -Wformat=2 -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wall -O2 -g1 -Iinclude -DMODNAME=cmd_unloadmodule.so -fPIC -shared -rdynamic /home/user/inspircd/src/commands/cmd_unloadmodule.cpp [00:22] then run [00:22] direct from line 101 [00:22] oh, you cant pass them? [00:22] popey: no, gdb don't work like that [00:22] bum [00:22] sorry [00:23] maybe it does if you pass -- [00:23] ah maybe, I was sure I had done something like that [00:23] Azelphur: run the g++ command with -v that shows you the internal subcommands it's running; it's unlikely it's the g++ command itself that's segging [00:23] *turns on u1, destroys hotel internet for all* [00:24] Azelphur: But to be honest, if it's segging differently each time I'd run memtest before bothering with gdb [00:25] gdb g++ -o modules/cmd_unloadmodule.so -pipe -fPIC -DPIC -pedantic -Woverloaded-virtual -Wshadow -Wformat=2 -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wall -O2 -g1 -Iinclude -DMODNAME=cmd_unloadmodule.so -fPIC -shared -rdynamic /home/user/inspircd/src/commands/cmd_unloadmodule.cpp [00:25] oops [00:25] http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image/ [00:25] guy leaving comments is useless [00:25] why is he bothering [00:26] that is pretty bad [00:26] still having no luck with gdb D: [00:26] aw, I don't have enough rep on askubuntu to downvote [00:26] askubuntu.com really likes to destroy my cpu :( [00:26] * popey starts a bounty on that question [00:27] i would guess that its kernel stuff, but i have no idea [00:27] ali1234: it won't build with the g++ command either, it complains about inspircd.h being missind [00:27] upboated [00:28] i earned the critic badge! [00:28] i just earned the "Famous Question" badge :) [00:29] i have nearly enough for reduced advertising, that seems weird [00:30] reducing the number of advertisements of people who use your site a lot? [00:30] no, reducing adverts for people who contribute a lot [00:31] you can use stack exchange a lot while contributing very little [00:31] on the basis that the crash point continually changes it's highly likely to be memory :p [00:31] you can also earn a large amount of rep while using the site very little [00:32] before I bring my host in on this I definitely need to get rsnapshot working, can anyone give me a quick crash course on it? [00:32] brb, coffee [00:32] * popey → bed [00:32] useful :p [00:32] is it just me or is the snickers in my minibar laughing at me? [00:33] popey: why don't you download the regular ISO and see how it fails? should provide you with an answer :) [00:33] uh huh [00:34] on mine, they both fail in the same place :) [00:35] lol hand-wavy [00:43] hmm, I'm trying to get myself access to my servers root account using an ssh key, the guide I'm reading says scp .ssh/id_rsa.pub root@remotebox1.server.com:.ssh/authorized_keys2 [00:43] which I translated as scp .ssh/id_rsa.pub from my PC to /root/.ssh/authorizedkeys2 [00:43] but I still get a password prompt when attempting to ssh :( [00:44] Azelphur: use the seahorse [00:44] the what now? o.O [00:44] "passwords and encryption keys" [00:44] "my personal keys" [00:44] right click your ssh key [00:44] "configure key for secure shell" [00:44] fill the wizard [00:44] done [00:45] trisquel is cool [00:45] who? [00:45] ali1234: I broke it, it says couldn't open fd 23: Bad file descriptor Permission denied (publickey, password) [00:46] :( [00:46] well... maybe because your server has bad ram? [00:46] I can ssh in on normal users o.O [00:46] also the root account is passwordless, as is the default with ubuntu [00:46] it looks like it's trying something with password which I assume won't work :p [00:47] ali1234: not who is a what [00:47] trisquelgnu linux is cool [00:47] its the new gnunewsense [00:48] gnewsense even [00:50] I did see there was an open bug about ssh failures [00:51] there, got it now following a different guide :) [01:07] anyone got any idea what error (if it even is an error) http://pastebin.com/wrKFDHfW this is? [01:11] never mind I'm just stupid [01:26] 16Mb ram disk, 48Mb for OS to use \o/ [01:34] will cut things down more some other time [01:35] :) [01:35] have anyone got experience with net booting using rpl? [01:40] bitplane [01:41] oops [01:41] planes of bits! [01:41] * Azelphur throws a bitplane at hamitron [01:41] :/ [01:42] * hamitron throws a beginners manual to linux at Azelphur [01:42] of* [01:42] bah [01:42] tired :/ [01:42] :p [01:42] can't decide how to set things up [01:42] doing an rsnapshot of my server, huge download \o/ [01:45] on your sky broadband? [01:45] ;) [01:53] hamitron: indeed [01:53] good way to test unlimited, gonna be doing 1MB/sec for the next 10 hours at least I would think [01:53] hehe [01:53] so long as it has resume..... [01:54] rsnapshot better have resume or I'm officially declaring it full of fail :P [01:54] how big is it? [01:54] if it's rsync based (which appeared to be, based on your last paste), it'll resume just fine [01:54] your collection of data I mean ;/ [01:55] hamitron: like 40GB [01:56] I was gonna offer my vps, but it only has 14Gb free [01:56] hehe [01:56] haha [01:57] I managed to use 1Gb of 500Gb monthly use last month [01:58] so i am improving :) [01:58] hamitron: call me when you hit 3TB :P [01:58] my vps is the cheapest I could find, and seems ok [01:59] reminds me of my 32MB vps days :) [01:59] I had a problem after some upgrades, but the tech support guy was really good [01:59] $15 per year for 128Mb vps I like [01:59] :) [02:00] not really upto what your server does though [02:00] hehe [02:00] :D [02:00] I started on a 32mb vps for $8/mo [02:00] it was bad :( [02:01] I could live with 32Mb [02:01] I was given one by a friend who found it crap [02:01] but he was more of a centos guy [02:01] hamitron: I lived in it too, until my VPS host gave me hell :D [02:01] the only things I could get working right on it was slackware [02:02] my main problem.... [02:02] it was friends, under their name [02:02] so i ddin't feel like I could do wtf I wanted [02:02] in case it came back to bite them [02:03] hamitron: mine worked for a while till they oversold the server and someone started 100%ing the CPU to the point that it had 90% packet loss [02:03] :/ [02:03] didn't they kick that user? [02:03] at which point the VPS host said "YOUR OUT OF RAM!" and kept on pasting me the output of free -m, which clearly showed I wasn't out of ram. [02:04] hamitron: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=733805 XD [02:06] :)) [02:06] I'm with buyvm [02:06] that's my review on them, fun fun [02:06] I don't expect anything good from them [02:07] hehe [02:07] but gives me something to play with [02:07] I didn't expect anything good, but 30-90% packet loss isn't really usable [02:07] no [02:07] like, you can't even ssh on that :P [02:07] I've been ssh'ed into mine for 4 days fine [02:07] :) [02:08] as I use chrome for main web browsing, then firefox with socks proxy settings [02:08] fun, I do that too [02:09] great minds :P [02:10] my vps provider offer a distro with a GUI :/ [02:10] not tried it, but can't be good [02:10] my ping is generally 180ms [02:11] haha, gui on servers for the kiddies :P [02:12] I've never had a server with a GUI [02:12] me either [02:12] when i started on linux, struggled to get X working, so learnt commands [02:13] and actually had a server before a desktop [02:14] I did run a windows 98 server in my bedroom when I was like 13, before I was using Linux :p [02:14] 98 server? ;/ [02:14] no way! [02:14] :D [02:14] 98se. [02:15] * hamitron shakes head [02:15] I was on windows 95 on my machines, when I got into linux [02:15] :/ [02:16] I used to write bots with mIRC scripting, so I used to have to host them on windows 98 xD [02:16] then I switched to Linux and went "ooo, python" and ported them. [02:16] that is 1 thing I have never done, that I would like to [02:16] IRC bot stuff [02:17] seems to be a things everyone does, that I have missed [02:17] thing* [02:17] I'm pretty decent at it, been doing it since I was about 12 years old [02:17] nearly a decade now :D [02:18] you use eggdrop now I assume? [02:18] no, I still use python. [02:18] I not looked closely, what does eggdrop use? [02:19] I assumed it would do different languages [02:19] afaik eggdrop is tcl [02:19] but I've never actually used it [02:20] I need to change DNS provider [02:20] :/ [02:21] who you with? [02:21] 1and1 don't support ipv6 [02:22] check out namecheap, I use them and I generally only hear good things about them :P [02:23] I don't wanna move away from 1and1 [02:23] just host the DNS elsewhere [02:23] ;) [02:23] oh :p [02:24] I used to go to somewhere cheaper, and they just stopped working [02:24] site still up, still able to pay them money [02:24] but domains don't register [02:24] :/ [02:25] namecheap do actually offer freedns [02:25] :) [02:25] lol [02:25] yea, I was about to mention that [02:26] do they support ipv6? [02:26] seems so [02:26] dunno [02:29] the problem still remains [02:29] not much to be gained from enabling ipv6 [02:29] :) [02:30] almost pointless me bothering [02:32] :p [02:34] ah ffs [02:34] my vps provider removed ubuntu 10.04 basic install [02:35] I hate it when VPS providers mess with the installation [02:35] because of a bug in tar that I had [02:35] they so often do really irritating things like enable the root user by default [02:35] but easy to fix when you got guys in here ;) [02:35] and remove certain repositories to save bandwith [02:35] yeh [02:35] but removing the install option is a pain [02:35] :/ [02:36] 10.10 is too new for me [02:36] ;) [02:37] haha [02:37] I better not break my 10.04 install i suppose [02:37] :) [02:38] or I'll have to use debian 6 [03:04] right [03:04] need sleep [03:04] :) [03:04] * hamitron is weak [03:47] * ball staggers around a bit. [04:04] evening [04:05] woah, timestamp fail [04:37] \o [04:38] ah he's gone :/ [05:39] hi [05:39] In 11.04, whats the other name for Ubuntu Classic Mode / [05:39] ? [05:39] I mean Ubuntu Classic Mode vs ? [05:39] Unity? [05:40] Ubuntu Desktop? [05:40] ok [05:40] Ubuntu Classic Mode vs Ubuntu Desktop [05:40] ? [05:41] MartijnVdS: Thanks [06:12] Morning everyone [06:23] \o knightwise [06:23] Knightwise: took some pics of knights yesterday :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/ [06:29] looks fantastic ! [06:29] and very hot inside that armor [06:31] Probably, yes :) [06:31] but pretty darn cool nonetheless [06:32] * Knightwise decides to have an off-twitter day [06:32] americans and their osama crazyness are a bit too much for me [06:32] s/crazyness/silliness/ [06:33] keeps me wondering : who the fanatics are ... [06:33] (just read gwbush's facebook comments) [06:33] God bless .. god this .. god bless .. etc etc [06:33] *shivers* [06:34] Knightwise: Gawd bless their guns [06:34] allthough some of the retweets are hilarious [06:35] ( Chuck norris just got back from afganistan etc ..) [06:35] Knightwise: "Trump will want to see the long-form death certificate" [06:35] LOL [06:35] poor trump [06:35] what they did to him at the dinner was hilarious ! [08:03] god god god they killed bin laden === phonex01 is now known as Bin [08:04] Hi [08:09] morning [08:09] good morning === Bin is now known as bin === bin is now known as Bin === Bin is now known as Bin_Laden [08:16] Bin_Laden: change your nick [08:16] morning all [08:16] ohhh why ? [08:16] it is just a name ? [08:17] ohhh no democracy in ubuntu rooms [08:17] shame on you ! [08:17] IRC is not a democracy [08:17] ok it is just a name [08:18] what is the problem with it !!!!! [08:18] even bin laden is dead now ! [08:19] politics is a sensetive subject and usually ends up in a heated discussion that muddles up the original reason of the channels existance, which is to discuss about Ubuntu [08:19] Bin_Laden: yes, I know, celebrate some other way please [08:19] so we kindly ask people to check their political opinions at the door before joining the discussion [08:20] im not celebrating i LOVE bin laden [08:20] that is why i use his name [08:20] see, now I think you are trolling [08:20] and this a freedom [08:20] i will not talk about policy [08:20] but please dont tell me to change my nae because this a freedom [08:20] nae * name [08:21] good call [08:22] * suprengr thanks AlanBell [08:22] change your nick and you can talk about stuff that isn't politics [08:23] hi it is me bin laden !!! [08:23] haha ok i will not talk about policy [08:31] Hahah. === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 5th May 21:00 BST #ubuntu-uk-meeting http://tinyurl.com/uukmeet [09:29] Having difficultly removing a file from a drobo nas unit, the file is write protected aparently. It's a .bin file made by Windows backup, I'm trying to remove it but I can't figure out how to, any ideas of where to start? [09:31] kvarley, have you tried changing the permissions on the file? [09:32] pipa: In the permission tab in nautilus it says they couldn't be determined [09:32] Morning [09:34] josh@betelgeuse:~$ ls /media/titan/ [09:34] ls: reading directory /media/titan/: Input/output error [09:34] josh@betelgeuse:~$ umount /media/titan [09:34] /sbin/umount.udisks: no device for /media/titan: No such device [09:34] pipa: ls -al gives: drwx------ 1 kevin kevin 0 2011-05-02 21:20 . drwx------ 1 kevin kevin 0 2011-05-02 21:09 .. -r-x------ 1 kevin kevin 528 2010-05-04 16:46 damn.bin [09:34] i think i may need a new disk [09:35] kvarley, have you sudo rm -f [filename] [09:35] pipa: Permission Denied [09:37] pipa: Trying to recursively delete the folder the file is in gives me "Invalid argument" [09:38] kvarley, can you sudo chmod 777 damn.bin [09:38] pipa: Operation not supported [09:39] pipa: I have an idea, I think maybe it's because I'm going through a droboshare to get to the drobo. Gonna go try USB connection directly to the drobo and see if I can delete it afk 5 mins === serial is now known as Guest7356 [09:47] mornin all [09:49] pipa: Managed to get rid of it, because it was over the network sudo didn't like it. [09:52] kvarley: Mounted over NFS? [09:52] kvarley: Samba [09:52] daubers: Samba - Is that the same thing? [09:53] kvarley: No.... I don't think samba inherantly understands chmod et al [09:54] daubers: Ah ok, well that was my problem. Had to plug into it via USB [09:54] Windows was trying to clutch onto me but I destroyed it :) [09:55] heh [09:59] sorry for disappearing earlier. the net dropped and then the cats settled on me [10:07] good morning everyone. [10:19] hiya brobostigon [10:19] hiya dwatkins :) [10:20] * dwatkins is running an anti-malware scan on Windows 7 due to java trojans [10:20] :( [10:21] Seems Mcafee didn't find the malware on this Windows 7 machine - yet another reason to use Ubuntu, I guess :-/ [10:21] In fairness, I'm sure if Ubuntu were more popular, it would be a bigger target for malware writers, but it's also more difficult to get trojans or viruses on linux, of course. [10:22] dwatkins: not solely ubuntu, but any gnu/linux distro, and or unix more generally, rather than one specific distro alone. [10:23] yeah, brobostigon - although I get the impression Ubuntu is probably the most popular right now out of all the linux distros on the home desktop. [10:23] I was impressed with Unity's ease of use, which will probably help matters further. [10:23] maybe yes. [10:25] unity is ok,but i doesnt really work aswell,for me, as it could. gnome-shell fits for me better. but mind you, i am a weird creature. [10:25] gnome-shell is da bees knees [10:26] I must get around to trying that one day [10:26] * daubers hugs python decorators [10:26] Psychobudgie: do you have gnome3 an gnome-shell on highlight? [10:26] I'll suggest gnome-shell to my other half, she may find that a lot more functional than unity [10:27] Is there an easy way to switch between unity, gnome shell and normal gnome? [10:27] dwatkins: not yet, as gnome-session is still broken, and needs fixing. [10:27] on highlight? [10:27] dwatkins: not yet [10:27] ah ok, thanks folks [10:27] dwatkins: not sure that's planned anywhere [10:27] maybe in fedora or suse you will be able to ;) [10:27] dwatkins - not until unity moves to gnome3 [10:28] and gnome-shell is technically normal gnome [10:28] * popey downloads GNOME 3 ISO images for openSUSE and Fedora [10:28] ah ok, I wasn't sure, Psychobudgie [10:28] dwatkins: gnome-session withinthe gnome3-teams ppa,is being fixed as we speak, to llow changing betweenthose properly. [10:29] llow, brobostigon? [10:29] dwatkins: allow* [10:29]