[00:09] <snap-l> Hmm... natty runs like crap in a Virtualbox vm
[00:14] <snap-l> I'd love to know why gnome settings is completely hung as well
[00:28] <snap-l> Ugh, the compiz settings don't work with UNity 2D
[00:29] <snap-l> I guess that shouldn't come as a surprise, but it is disappointing
[01:05] <jjesse> snap-l i've seen a couple of posts on planet.ubuntu.com on using vbox and unity
[03:24] <snap-l> Yeah, i saw one that brousch shared, but nothing seems to work very well for me.
[03:37] <jjesse> president speaking tonight on national security, rumors are we killed osma bin laden
[03:51] <Blazeix> msnbc is confirming the rumor
[03:51] <jjesse> pretty crazy on twitter right now
[03:56] <_stink_> crap, really?
[03:56] <jjesse> yup
[03:56] <jjesse> confirmed by a ton of different sources
[03:56] <jjesse> and we have the body
[03:57] <jjesse> his wikipedia page has been updated all ready w/ death
[03:58] <_stink_> wow
[04:00] <Blazeix> it also appears it was US ground forces responsible for it.
[04:01] <jjesse> suprised twitter hasn't blown up yet
[04:01] <jjesse> pretty impressive
[04:09] <ebarch> snap-l: i was just trying to get ubuntu classic 11.04 to run decently in virtualbox...doesn't even want to use the ambiance theme properly...
[04:35] <Blazeix> ah, http://www.whitehouse.gov/live is staring
[04:35] <Blazeix> s/staring/starting/
[04:49] <snap-l> Well, that's a bombshell
[13:12] <wolfger> morning
[13:13] <rick_h__> party
[13:13] <wolfger> still? You didn't get enough at Penguicon?
[13:13] <rick_h__> heh, didn't stay at PC long enough I guess to get it out of me
[13:14] <brousch> you went to pcon?
[13:14] <rick_h__> I was there for the release party
[13:15] <brousch> see any furries
[13:15] <brousch> other than snap-l?
[13:15] <rick_h__> one 'cat', but sure if it was furries or not
[13:23] <wolfger> I, surprisingly, saw no furries at all
[13:24] <wolfger> of course, I was not there during masquerade, and did not really do any partying
[13:24] <wolfger> I'm getting old, and was unable to stay up partying all night :-p
[13:27] <brousch> sad
[13:49] <tameek_> Morning all.  Just wanted to quickly introduce myself.  My name is Tameek.  I moved to Michigan about a year ago. Comptia Linux+ certified, work as a support analyst. Love wine, and recycling. I've been using Linux for about 4 years off and on. I run Ubuntu in a vm.
[13:49] <ColonelPanic001> hi
[13:49] <ColonelPanic001> I'm ColonelPanic001. I sit and BS on IRC.
[13:50] <brousch> hi, I'm Ben. I sit on IRC and make fun of ColonelPanic001 for BSing
[13:50] <tameek_> lol
[13:51] <wolfger> Hi. I'm wolfger. I kvetch and troll and generally try to be funny (and sometimes even succeed)
[13:52] <wolfger> now do you love "wine" or "WINE". Significant difference there.... ;-)
[13:52] <ColonelPanic001> I like whine.
[13:54] <brousch> you obviously don't have a kid
[13:54] <tameek_> wine
[13:57] <wolfger> of course... I'm slow in processing this morning. Would be kind of silly to use WINE when running Ubuntu in a vm
[13:58] <brousch> unless that VM is running on osx
[13:58] <wolfger> true
[13:58] <wolfger> I make an assumption that the primary system is Windows. i could be wrong
[13:59] <snap-l> Hello, I'm snap-l. I sit on IRC and make random and sarcastic comments about just about anything. Oh, and I work with computers. :)
[13:59] <ColonelPanic001> nerd
[13:59] <wolfger> geek
[13:59] <snap-l> (wrote that one time for my high school alumni questionaire: "works with computers"
[14:00] <snap-l> It was pretty funny sandwiched between the other ones that were waxing eloquent on their jobs and families.
[14:00] <tameek_> :-)
[14:00] <snap-l> But, yes... welcome to #ubuntu-us-mi
[14:01] <snap-l> Make yourself at home. There's chips and dip on the table.
[14:01] <wolfger> I liked the 3-bullet resume for the "writing bad code" panel on Sunday... can't remember exactly how it went, but it was like, "1) I write code, 2) I've worked for some companies, 3) I've written some software"
[14:01] <tameek_> Thanks!  Yes, primary system is Windows 7
[14:01] <tameek_> dual monitor with Ubuntu/VM
[14:01] <snap-l> wolfger: I so didn't want to miss that panel. :)
[14:02] <snap-l> rick_h__: You weren't trying hard enough to see furries at Penguicon
[14:02] <rick_h__> snap-l: no, that was intentinoal
[14:02] <snap-l> There was at least two that I saw
[14:02] <snap-l> Not sure about the cat ears / tail thing, though
[14:02] <rick_h__> I had my back to most of the hotel during the event
[14:03] <snap-l> if that's a "furry", then I saw a myriad more
[14:03] <rick_h__> yea, that cat ears/tail seems a bit light for full furri-level
[14:03] <rick_h__> might just be "i'm cute pay attention to me"
[14:03] <snap-l> rick_h__: Aw, that's the fun of it. seeing things that you can't un-see.
[14:03] <snap-l> The whole "are you going to see Rocky Horror picture show, or the drag show, or ... ?"
[14:04] <rick_h__> so I sent an angry email with a lot of links to my benefits company that sent me my password in email
[14:04] <rick_h__> that was fun
[14:05] <ColonelPanic001> half the reason I like pcon is the general weird stuff I can't see normally. Doesn't matter if I'm "into it" or not.
[14:05] <ColonelPanic001> rick_h__: good
[14:05] <wolfger> 3 people came to "bad code" on Sunday who evidently participated in the drag show. Or should have....
[14:05] <wolfger> actually, I can only say for sure two of them were.... the third was either legitimately female, or did a really damn good job.
[14:06] <ColonelPanic001> it happens.
[14:06] <rick_h__> grumble, and about to send a nasty one to att
[14:06] <snap-l> wolfger: There were a few folks that were doing some good Genesis P-orridge transformations
[14:07] <rick_h__> snap-l: you need to tell jody to be careful
[14:07] <rick_h__> if I wasn't tired, I could have had a lot of fun with her steamroller tweet
[14:07] <snap-l> Heh
[14:07] <ColonelPanic001> o.o
[14:07] <snap-l> She knows onl a handful of people read her twitter stream
[14:07] <ColonelPanic001> no such thing
[14:07] <snap-l> and do you really want JoDee on your bad side? :)
[14:07] <ColonelPanic001> it's twitter
[14:07] <rick_h__> "I got steamrolled at pcon and all I got was this t-shirt" lets the imagination run a bit wild
[14:08] <snap-l> She will find you.
[14:08] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[14:08] <rick_h__> lol
[14:08] <wolfger> steamroller?
[14:08] <snap-l> wolfger: Yeah, she said that she felt like she was hit by a steamroller at pcon
[14:08]  * wolfger goes in search of JoDee's twitter account.
[14:09] <snap-l> http://twitter.com/#!/saganfan1/status/64700129206206465
[14:10] <snap-l> http://twitter.com/#!/saganfan1/status/64171083884007425 <- I like this one
[14:10] <rick_h__> I didn't get that one
[14:10] <rick_h__> is it against the rules to talk about your research?
[14:11] <snap-l> Nah, you can talk about it all you want
[14:11] <snap-l> just funny that folks would talk about their research while drunk
[14:11] <snap-l> it's like talking about the deeper parts of your work while drunk
[14:11] <ColonelPanic001> not if they find it interesting.
[14:12] <snap-l> True
[14:12] <ColonelPanic001> btw, anyone else?:   https://twitter.com/#!/0x241/status/64342179551776769
[14:13] <snap-l> A little. Looks more like Sauron's ballroom to me
[14:13] <ColonelPanic001> hah, also can see that
[14:13] <rick_h__> damn, where's tjagoda when you need him
[14:13] <rick_h__> or however his nick is spelled, I need my tab completion
[14:14] <rick_h__> darn-non-idlers
[14:14] <snap-l> rick_h__: What did RIM do now?
[14:14] <rick_h__> http://www.androidcentral.com/rim-provide-enterprise-tool-secure-mangement-android-devices
[14:15] <rick_h__> they're completing the prophecy, turning into a software/services company
[14:21] <snap-l> rick_h__: So they're going the way of Palm, then.
[14:22] <snap-l> That doesn't surprise me, honestly. ;)
[14:29] <wolfger> speaking of t-shirts, what did anybody think of this year's shirts?
[14:30] <_stink_> oops, late to the party
[14:30] <_stink_> hi tameek_, i'm _stink_.  i work with ColonelPanic001 and we mostly sit and BS.
[14:30] <snap-l> wolfger: I think they were a bundle of awesome. Had to buy one.
[14:32] <wolfger> snap-l: sweet. Happy to hear it. (the artist is a good friend of mine)
[14:34] <wolfger> the printing on the cycle's screen was my idea
[14:36] <snap-l> Yeah, it was pretty sweet.
[14:41] <tameek_> hey _stink_
[14:41] <tameek_> sounds like fun
[14:42] <_stink_> it is
[14:43] <ColonelPanic001> he's lying.
[14:43] <_stink_> down for a nap
[14:43] <ColonelPanic001> for one, I work here.
[14:45] <_stink_> buh dum chh
[14:55] <greg-g> g'morning tameek_ ! Welcome to the channel. I'm Greg. I live in Ann Arbor and work at the University of Michigan Library.
[14:55] <_stink_> greg-g is our fearless leader.
[14:57] <ColonelPanic001> s/fear/beard/;
[14:57] <_stink_> *gasp
[14:57] <greg-g> not to worry, the bear is still attached
[15:01] <greg-g> but I will probably be trimming it tonight, just to forewarn you, _stink_. It is pretty long (ie: I can comb it, a bit), so it is about time. :)
[15:02] <ColonelPanic001> no
[15:02] <ColonelPanic001> NO
[15:02] <_stink_> well, i'll withhold judgement
[15:02] <_stink_> i am shaven myself, though.
[15:03] <ColonelPanic001> I'll probably trim mine soon a little
[15:11] <snap-l> Listening to the OMC that I recorded at Penguicon.
[15:11] <snap-l> Should be up tomorrow
[15:11] <ColonelPanic001> \o/
[15:33] <wolfger> snap-l: What's the weirdest thing you ever saw at CTC?
[15:34] <wolfger> Because I just saw a hooker carrying two golf clubs walking down the hall.
[15:34] <snap-l> you win
[15:34] <wolfger> and I think that's got to be near the top of the list
[15:34] <snap-l> Seriously? A hooker?
[15:34] <rick_h__> that likes golf?
[15:34] <rick_h__> no way
[15:35] <snap-l> Sounds like a Mindless Self INdulgence song
[15:35] <wolfger> well... she was headed towards the exit, and wearing a long heavy coat, but.....
[15:35] <snap-l> "One hooker and two golf clubs"
[15:35] <wolfger> stilleto heels, skin tight faux leather pants, and big hair
[15:35] <snap-l> wolfger: Wow
[15:35] <wolfger> a purse in one hand, two golf clubs in the other
[15:35] <snap-l> Maybe it's someone's wife?
[15:35] <rick_h__> little driving range practice
[15:35] <rick_h__> heels/leather is how I do my practice
[15:36] <snap-l> She was going to surprise her hubby with a round of golf.
[15:36] <_stink_> pics
[15:36] <wolfger> _stink_: no camera policy at work :-p
[15:36] <_stink_> of rick_h__ at the driving range :P
[15:36] <wolfger> LOL
[15:37] <wolfger> I'm not sure who worries me more... _stink_  or rick_h__
[15:37]  * rick_h__ breaks out the 7-iron
[15:37] <wolfger> and they were irons, not drivers....
[15:38] <_stink_> 70% of golf shots are inside 100 yards
[15:38] <_stink_> smart woman
[15:38] <snap-l> No putter though, means she wasn't working on her short game
[15:38] <snap-l> She was going for distance.
[15:38] <rick_h__> pitching
[15:38] <rick_h__> must be pitching day in class
[15:39] <rick_h__> 9 and a SW probably
[15:39] <rick_h__> :P
[15:39] <snap-l> Either that or someone got called in to pick up some golf clubs
[15:39] <rick_h__> ooh, security?
[15:39] <_stink_> maybe she's the nanny and models herself after Fran Drescher
[15:39] <snap-l> In any event, that's definitely pretty high on the weirdness magnet scale
[15:39] <rick_h__> "unauthorized devices of fun located in 3E"
[15:40] <snap-l> Worst I've ever seen are people's desks at CTC
[15:40] <rick_h__> I'm going to have to stop listening to TWiT network stuff, going to give me high blood pressure
[15:40] <snap-l> the ones that look like arboretum
[15:40] <snap-l> rick_h__: What now?
[15:40] <wolfger> rick_h__: LOL
[15:40] <rick_h__> more of the same "what? People are suprised at the tracking on their phones? What did you expect, it's a spy device"
[15:41] <wolfger> snap-l: Yeah, the flora is odd, but understandable. It's hard to live in a cube farm.
[15:41] <wolfger> I haven't listened to TWiT in forever
[15:41] <wolfger> don't remember why I stopped
[15:42] <rick_h__> for more time to listen to lococast and OMC?
[15:43] <wolfger> heh
[15:43] <wolfger> I've got a little catching up to do on Lococast, for sure
[15:44] <wolfger> waiting for another scream-free edition of OMC
[15:44] <wolfger> love metal instrumentals, but loathe so much of the metal that has lyrics
[15:44] <ColonelPanic001> most death metal growling is terrible.
[15:44] <ColonelPanic001> but the good stuff is very good
[15:46] <snap-l> Yeah, it's something you get used to, rather than enjoy
[15:46] <snap-l> Though some of them really turn it up a notch and make it enjoyable
[15:46] <snap-l> There's a new Club Metal episode that I released just before Pengiucon
[15:48] <wolfger> Yeah, you mentioned. I still haven't gotten around to listening to it
[15:48] <wolfger> Sorry. When I think of "metal", I think of Led Zepplin.
[15:48] <wolfger> If it's not as good as them, it sucks. :-D
[15:50] <snap-l> wolfger: We've had over 30 years to screw with that definition. ;)
[15:52] <rick_h__> http://all-that-is-interesting.com/post/4956385434/the-first-zombie-proof-house
[16:03] <snap-l> That is awesome.
[16:08] <jrwren> WTF?  http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Ubuntu-Enterprise-Cloud-Natty-Narwhal-62885.shtml
[16:13] <rick_h__> jrwren: ?
[16:27]  * snap-l is uploading his Penguicon pictures
[16:39] <jrwren> why is there a separate UEC download?
[16:39] <rick_h__> jrwren: because they have to provide it for dell to put on those cloud servers they're selling
[16:40] <rick_h__> http://content.dell.com/us/en/enterprise/by-need-it-productivity-data-center-change-response-ubuntu-cloud.aspx
[16:40] <jrwren> oh, interesting.
[16:40] <jrwren> but how is it different than just ubuntu server?
[16:40] <rick_h__> preconfigured basically
[16:41] <rick_h__> it's like how you can choose on install time you want a lamp server
[16:41] <jrwren> i see.
[16:41] <rick_h__> so it does the installs/setup for you vs you getting into the fresh system and doing the apt-get install XXX
[16:51] <snap-l> https://picasaweb.google.com/craigmaloney/Penguicon2011#
[16:51]  * rick_h__ is afraid to click
[16:52] <rick_h__> snap-l: oh, loved jcastro's blog post with the pic lol
[16:53] <ColonelPanic001> https://picasaweb.google.com/craigmaloney/Penguicon2011#5602144130086252498
[16:53] <ColonelPanic001> I am a growth on snap-l's head
[16:55] <_stink_> haha
[16:55] <_stink_> yes
[16:55] <rick_h__> http://www.mister-wong.com/payments/upgrade/ hah
[16:56] <rick_h__> so who's leaving bookie to pay $2/mo for your 10 bookmarks
[16:56] <ColonelPanic001> ...10? wtf would you bother?
[16:56] <ColonelPanic001> I had something 300 on delicious
[16:56] <ColonelPanic001> which admittedly needs some pruning, but stull
[16:57] <rick_h__> 300? wow that's light
[16:57] <ColonelPanic001> oh, nm. 496
[16:57] <rick_h__> lol, I'm testing bookie with 16,000
[16:57] <rick_h__> and my site is 1,600
[16:57] <ColonelPanic001> I haven't been using it as much in the last year or two, that's part of it
[16:57] <rick_h__> you try out the FF extension yet?
[16:58] <ColonelPanic001> I haven't even set up a server end for it yet. Must do that
[16:58] <ColonelPanic001> was going to get started on this yesterday, instead was lazy and just "recovered"
[16:58] <rick_h__> yea, well warning working on releasing 0.2 on MUG
[16:58] <snap-l> https://picasaweb.google.com/craigmaloney/Penguicon2011#5602144289748266514
[16:58] <rick_h__> so install will have an upgrade shortly
[16:58] <ColonelPanic001> \o/
[16:59] <rick_h__> great, I sneak into you photos
[16:59] <snap-l> https://picasaweb.google.com/craigmaloney/Penguicon2011#5602143548380050258 <- Anyone have a name for the lady on the left?
[16:59] <snap-l> I think it's Mary, but I'm not 100% sure
[16:59] <rick_h__> strange lady that comes to each release part
[16:59] <rick_h__> party?
[17:14] <jrwren> that penguicon restaurant looks swank.
[17:14] <snap-l> Yeah, it was an update from last year
[17:17] <jrwren> 64pople in the natty panel?  was it a positive crowd? or haters?
[17:19] <snap-l> Mostly positive
[17:20] <snap-l> though a lot of undecided
[17:20] <rick_h__> that's fair though
[17:20] <snap-l> It wasn't nearly as caustic as one might think
[17:20] <brousch> same experience i had
[17:23] <snap-l> yeah, welcoming change is not natural
[17:23] <snap-l> but I definitely want to check out lenses
[17:25] <snap-l> rick_h__: I think the point on TWiT is that you're carrying around a radio. You can triangulate on any radio broadcast
[17:25] <snap-l> expectig 100% while broadcasting is foolish
[17:25] <snap-l> 100% privacy, rather
[17:25] <rick_h__> snap-l: right, but comparing it like that drives me bonkers
[17:26] <rick_h__> "law enforcement knows where you are, they can request that easily" is different than any dude that picks up my phone can see my entire travel plasn for the last 2 years
[17:26] <rick_h__> it's still a gaping hole that even apple says requires 3 'bug fixes'
[17:26] <rick_h__> and they keep playing it like "well ATT knows where you are..."
[17:26] <snap-l> rick_h__: And one patent application. ;)
[17:26] <rick_h__> so the #@$@%$ what if ATT does, I know that. I don't want it available to someone that grabs my wife's lost laptop
[17:27] <rick_h__> short sighted apologists imo
[17:29] <snap-l> Oh no doubt
[17:30] <jrwren> zomg... why did I stick with vmware server for so long? KVM via virt-install is soooo easy.
[17:30] <rick_h__> yea, kvm is supposed to be good stuff, but does it have the extras stuff for native-like graphics/etc?
[17:30] <rick_h__> I think that was the big hang up last time I was prepping to go the kvm route
[17:30] <jrwren> no, but neither does vmware server.
[17:31] <rick_h__> ah, ok
[17:31] <jrwren> i was not using vmware desktop or virtualbox.
[17:31] <rick_h__> gotcha
[17:31] <snap-l> kvm isn't too good re: video cards, though
[17:31] <snap-l> performance is not good (At least 6 mo ago)
[17:31] <rick_h__> snap-l: I think the thing that bugs me is that these guys have a huge stage and explain a lot of things to 'normal' people and when the blow it I get cranky
[17:31] <jrwren> perf in general, or do you mean video?
[17:31] <snap-l> perf
[17:31] <rick_h__> their coverage of the AWS stuff pissed me off because they didn't get the tech/etc right
[17:32] <rick_h__> jrwren: just video, supposedly good low level performance for a server or something
[17:32] <rick_h__> though at work we're going xen :(
[17:32] <rick_h__> stupid RH based systems
[17:32] <jrwren> "law enforcement knows where you are, they can request that easily"  is also false... any idiot who watches NCIS regularly, knows that when you are on the run, you turn off your cell phone.
[17:32] <rick_h__> easily == pen register
[17:32] <rick_h__> most carries have a website police can go enter their id and look your location up
[17:33] <rick_h__> /carries/carriers
[17:33] <jrwren> libvirt confuses me with how it mixes xen, kvm and qemu.
[17:33] <jrwren> right, but they can't see that if your phone is off.
[17:33] <rick_h__> I need more tunes to cheer me up, come on cloud player
[17:33] <wolfger> kvm.... if it starts with a K, it's got to be good!
[17:33] <jrwren> and I mean OFF, like pull the bat.
[17:33] <rick_h__> right, but the idea is they compare police access as easy, therefore it's not a big deal to have these location leaks
[17:33] <wolfger> Oh, wait, that was what I *used* to say before KDE turned to suck. Nevermind.
[17:33] <snap-l> sorry, but if you're on the run, do not touch a cell phone
[17:33] <rick_h__> poor wolfger, jumps ship from kde to gnome
[17:34] <rick_h__> and then gets reamed again via gnome3/unity
[17:34] <wolfger> LOL
[17:34] <wolfger> I'm just biding my time. E17 will hit 1.0 one of these days....
[17:35] <jrwren> e17 might as well be 1.0.
[17:35] <jrwren> it ships in production on some samsung phones.
[17:38] <jrwren> so far perf in kvm seems very good.
[17:38] <wolfger> Really? Which ones?
[17:39] <jrwren> I'm not sure, but the main e guy - is that rasterman - has been working for samsung for a whiel.
[17:39] <jrwren> http://www.rasterman.com/
[17:39] <jrwren> oh, my bad... maybe it is not out.
[18:02] <snap-l> Yay! Got my order from Robot shop in the mail.
[18:03] <snap-l> Beginners kit. Got a bunch more sensors, and a case to put them in
[18:03] <snap-l> as well as a LCD screen
[18:04] <rick_h__> yay, robot time
[18:05] <wolfger> woohoo
[18:05] <snap-l> Plus I have post-Penguicon energy.
[18:05] <snap-l> It's a win-win-win-win
[18:19] <rick_h__> Blazeix: ping, do you use dropbox on arch?
[18:31] <brousch> snap-l: interesting, the guy in black in the middle of this photo is from my side of the state. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HwfT7g4eo2U/Tb7SAbuFaqI/AAAAAAAABN0/SRtsYDQdn_A/s720/img_3187.jpg
[18:32] <snap-l> Heh
[18:54] <gamerchick02> cool, snap-l.
[18:58] <snap-l> Thank you. :)
[19:02] <Blazeix> rick_h__: yeah, think I have the aur package installed
[19:03] <rick_h__> k, yea I got the userspace one going
[19:03] <rick_h__> I had issues with just the normal dropboxd
[19:03] <rick_h__> thanks
[19:10] <rick_h__> actually kind of cool: http://www.hilarymason.com/blog/how-to-get-a-random-line-from-a-file-in-bash/
[19:35] <snap-l> That's awesome
[19:35] <Blazeix> how about sed -n "$(($RANDOM % $(sed -n '$=' test.txt)))p" test.txt
[19:36] <Blazeix> that way you don't have to deal with awk, like FireFighter's solution does
[19:36] <Blazeix> nothing against awk, I just never managed to wrap my head around it
[19:36] <snap-l> Frankly, heading to awk is just a stone-s throw away from python / perl
[19:36] <rick_h__> I liked the dd answer
[19:36] <rick_h__> wouldn't have thought of that one
[19:37] <rick_h__> and works with any size file
[19:43] <wolfger> the best command available in bash is "perl -e"
[19:43] <rick_h__> ipython
[19:44] <snap-l> http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=1910
[19:45] <snap-l> perl -e 'srand;rand($.) < 1 && ($it = $_) while <>;print $it' < testing
[19:47] <jrwren> <3 awk
[19:47] <jrwren> wait... dd?
[19:47] <jrwren> how did they set a RS ?
[19:48] <jrwren> or do you mean do ?
[19:48] <jrwren> *od
[19:48] <jrwren> I like the od solution.
[19:48] <jrwren> i'd have never thought of that too
[19:48] <rick_h__> http://tumblr.machinetext.com/post/4997828856/selecting-a-random-line-from-a-file
[19:48] <rick_h__> od was used in an example as well
[19:49] <wolfger> http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=902311
[19:49] <snap-l> I love how people 'misuse' tools for a common good.
[19:49] <jrwren> ok, i grok the dd now. that is kinda cool.
[19:49] <snap-l> And I put that in air-quotes, because I love rube-goldberg solutions
[19:50] <jrwren> "hax"
[19:52] <snap-l> Oh geez
[19:52] <jrwren> lol
[19:52] <snap-l> craig@lister:~$ echo `cat /dev/urandom | od -N4 -An -i `' % '`wc -l < testing`
[19:52] <snap-l> 1623132144 % 5
[19:53] <snap-l> Which then gets fed to bc
[19:53] <snap-l> craig@lister:~$ echo `cat /dev/urandom | od -N4 -An -i `' % '`wc -l < testing` | bc
[19:53] <snap-l> -4
[19:53] <snap-l> omg, that's a hack
[19:54] <jrwren> is it?
[19:54] <jrwren> I like it.
[19:54] <jrwren> although I think you can use base for the modulus
[19:55] <snap-l> jrwren: Hack as in something very clever
[19:56] <jrwren> ah.
[19:56] <jrwren> I was thinking Hack as in something doing something it was not meant to.
[19:56] <jrwren> i see each of those as doing exactly waht they are meant to.
[19:56] <jrwren> and composing these things is why i like unix.
[19:58] <snap-l> Yeah, same here
[19:59] <snap-l> UNIX is like a big box of productivity legos
[19:59] <rick_h__> but there's no gui for any of these
[19:59] <rick_h__> fail!
[20:00] <rick_h__> surely you can't do something that a gui can't
[20:00] <snap-l> rick_h__: I banish you
[20:00] <snap-l> BEGONE!
[20:00]  * rick_h__ hides in shame
[20:04] <jrwren> you are dead to me rick_h__ :)
[20:04] <rick_h__> oh geeze, I do a little channeling of jcastro and you guys get on me :P
[20:04]  * brousch welcomes rick_h__ with open arms
[20:04] <brousch> gimme a hug big guy
[20:04] <rick_h__> yea, how does that work on a mac is what I want to know lol
[20:04] <jcastro> haha
[20:05] <brousch> it seems to have dd available
[20:05] <rick_h__> I want a unity quick menu, thingy...right-click "random line from file"
[20:06] <wolfger> What button can I click to display a random line from a file? :-)
[20:07] <wolfger> what is this "dd" everybody keeps referring to? "dd" is the command to delete a line. :-p
[20:07] <Blazeix> rick_h__: someone should totally make a 'core-util' icon for the unity dock.
[20:08] <Blazeix> where you right-click and every core-util is an option
[20:08] <rick_h__> lol
[20:44] <snap-l> Quick poll: Has anyone found anything from an archive.org netlabel that isn't more painful than sticking your head in a dryer?
[20:45] <brousch> well the dryer turns off when you open the door to stick your head in it
[20:45] <snap-l> I mean if you took your head off to put it in the dryer.
[20:45] <ColonelPanic001> this is too complicated
[20:45] <brousch> which head?
[20:46] <snap-l> either one
[20:46] <brousch> no
[20:48] <snap-l> That's what I thought
[21:30] <gamerchick02> *blink blink* i walked in at the wrong time.
[21:30] <ColonelPanic001> no such thing.
[21:37] <gamerchick02> i saw something about putting your head in a dryer...
[21:37] <gamerchick02> hrm
[21:39] <ColonelPanic001> so?
[21:39] <ColonelPanic001> I don't comment on how you dry your hair, Ms. Judgemental.
[21:46] <gamerchick02> it air dries. ;)
[21:46] <ColonelPanic001> same thing in the dryer.
[21:46] <gamerchick02> it was the "which head" comment that threw me. ;)
[21:47] <ColonelPanic001> that needs drying, to
[21:47] <gamerchick02> oh well.
[21:47] <ColonelPanic001> too
[21:47] <gamerchick02> heh
[21:47] <brousch> well some of us have 2 heads, like zaphod beeblebrox
[21:48] <gamerchick02> Zaphod is awesome. :)
[21:59] <fdvalero> hello everyone, after pinguiton which is the next event in michigan?
[22:00] <ColonelPanic001> Well, I went to work today.
[22:20] <snap-l> fdvalero: I don't think there's anything really planned yet.
[22:20] <snap-l> The next big event that we're part of is Ohio Linuxfest
[22:20] <snap-l> some of us also go to PyOhio
[22:20] <snap-l> Pretty sure we'll also have a release party for 11.10
[22:21] <snap-l> That'll be in October.
[22:22] <greg-g> fdvalero: what snap-l said.
[22:42] <snap-l> https://twitter.com/#!/lmorchard/statuses/65166820356792320