[03:08] <ChinnoDog> darn Banshee, being difficult again
[03:10] <andrew> silence broken
[03:10] <freelancer317> awesome
[03:10] <freelancer317> now we can all talk
[03:10] <ChinnoDog> Was I supposed to be silent?
[03:10] <andrew> freelancer317: How's it going?
[03:11] <ChinnoDog> Now that the silence is broken I can blame lamalex for my Banshee being broken
[03:11] <freelancer317> andrew:  pretty good.  been busy with family stuff (tball, honors society (kids), etc)  how about you?
[03:12] <freelancer317> we blame alex for almost everything anyway... so why not Banshee not working!  lol
[03:14] <ChinnoDog> ooh. Banshee unstable is not helping
[03:15] <ChinnoDog> It won't let me manage my music on my phone
[03:15] <ChinnoDog> It shows the music, it plays the music, but i can't delete stuff or add stuff
[03:23] <andrew> been well
[03:25] <ChinnoDog> oh. its my phone. It has decided to make my fs read-only?
[03:36] <ChinnoDog> Fixed. The fs on my phone was corrupted.
[03:36] <ChinnoDog> Guess i can't blame lamalex after all
[03:38] <andrew> why note?
[03:38] <andrew> not*
[03:38] <ChinnoDog> Because my fs was corrupted and idk if Banshee did it or not
[03:45] <ChinnoDog> So... we haz Natty release party?
[03:46] <ChinnoDog> I suggest Buffalo Wild Wings in Easton.
[11:24] <JonathanD> Morning PA.
[11:32] <rmg51>   morning JonathanD
[11:34] <JonathanD> Hello rmg51
[11:36] <rmg51> o/
[11:38] <JonathanD> how goes
[11:38] <JonathanD> I woke up thinking it was sunday :(
[11:44] <rmg51> I wake up hoping it is always Sat. :-D
[11:44] <rmg51> breakfast time
[14:10] <InHisName> Breakfast Morning  Y'all
[14:58] <knightzero> Morning everyone.
[14:58] <JonathanD> Howdy knightzero
[14:59] <JonathanD> Good morning.
[15:01] <andrew> morning
[15:06] <andrew> Fetching files for the upgrade at 3,123 kB/s
[15:06] <andrew> I can live with that
[15:07] <andrew> (for now)
[15:14] <InHisName> @logs
 we haz logs, http://ubuntupennsylvania.org/PennBot/ or What happens in #ubuntu-us-pa stays in the logs
[15:16] <andrew> hence the for now, someday, when installs are done off some sort of holographic, multi-petabyte, pinky-nail sized thing, this speed will feel "like dial-up"
[15:17] <InHisName> Could always try booting win3.0 for comparisons
[15:17] <andrew> would first need win3.0
[15:18] <JonathanD> I have it.
[15:18] <JonathanD> On CD, no les.
[15:20] <jrmy> hello everyone
[15:22] <teddy-dbear> o/
[15:29] <rhpot1991> andrew: squid-deb-proxy if you want faster :)
[15:31] <InHisName> I have 3.0, 3.1 and many more.  Not sure if floppies are still readable though.
[15:31] <jrmy> knightzero: figure out that ram thing?
[15:31] <InHisName> Is there a txt mode command to uninstall the propriatary nvidia drivers ?
[15:34] <ssweeny> jockey-text
[15:34] <ssweeny> InHisName, ^^
[15:36] <knightzero> jrmy: you should have an email waiting for you in the gmail account you provided me, as of this morning.
[15:36] <ssweeny> jockey-text -l to list drivers, jockey-text -d <DRIVER> to disable the one you don't want
[15:51] <jrmy> knightzero: ok havent checked it in a few hours
[15:51] <InHisName> GtkWarning  could not open the display etc.         is jockey-text need gui ?
[15:57] <InHisName> Works fine in my main box terminal window, but gui is running.
[15:57] <InHisName> Tried with sudo but same error.
[15:57] <InHisName> test box has problem.
[16:00] <ssweeny> jockey-text should not require a gui. that would be missing the point
[16:15] <InHisName> @later tell SamuriAlba Buy everything bacon here http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/bacon/
[16:15] <PennBot> InHisName: The operation succeeded.
[16:47] <ChinnoDog> andrew: elaborate on synergy problem please
[16:47] <andrew> when I try to unautohide the unity bar, it doesn't, because my mouse has already left the screen
[16:48] <andrew> I'm assuming you are familiar with synergy
[16:48] <andrew> and unity
[16:48] <ChinnoDog> Synergy yes, Unity not so much
[16:49] <ChinnoDog> I run Synergy+ all the time
[16:49] <andrew> Unity has a bar on the left side, by default, it autohides
[16:49] <andrew> but this bar is critical as it's kind of the taskbar of the system
[16:49] <JonathanD> I can see how synergy would cause issue with that.
[16:49] <ChinnoDog> Right, I saw that when I installed Natty on my laptop while doing btrfs tests
[16:50] <ChinnoDog> It wasn't autohiding though
[16:50] <andrew> move the mouse to the first column of pixels on the left of the screen, ideall, unity bar appears, but synergy takes the mouse off the screen and puts it on the next when you reach that point
[16:50] <andrew> I've disabled the auto-hiding
[16:50] <andrew> which appears to be a compiz thing
[16:51] <ChinnoDog> Ah, I understand now. So either you have to disable autohide or you have to put your Unity screen on the left
[16:51] <ChinnoDog> Is the Unity bar movable?
[16:51] <andrew> nope
[16:52] <waltman> Does it come with almonds?
[16:52] <andrew> ChinnoDog: unity is on the left, but so is my XP system
[16:53] <JonathanD> andrew: it's not autohiding on my install
[16:54] <andrew> JonathanD: do you have compiz (aka: desktop effects) enabled?
[16:54] <ChinnoDog> waltman: huh? almonds?
[16:54] <waltman> "Unity bar" sounds like some sort of new candy bar to me :)
[16:55] <waltman> "hershey bar". "wonka bar". "unity bar".
[16:55] <andrew> "college bar"
[16:56] <waltman> andrew: It sounds like what you really need is a "corner bar" :)
[16:57] <andrew> there's a side bar right up the street
[16:57] <waltman> is it a shot and a beer bar?
[16:58] <andrew> dunno
[16:58] <JonathanD> andrew: probably not.
[16:58] <andrew> but probably
[16:58] <JonathanD> I haven't figured it out quite yet.
[17:00] <rhpot1991> andrew: I have the same unity + synergy issues
[17:01] <rhpot1991> if you disable autohiding the unity bar then things end up under it anyways, so that doesn't fix the issue
[17:01] <jedijf> rhpot1991: did hotkeys help? like super...super tap
[17:02] <rhpot1991> there is a setting for corner instead of left side for displaying the bar, that helps, but going to a corner is a pain
[17:02] <andrew> yeah, for now I've set it to not hide
[17:02] <rhpot1991> jedijf: slightly, if you use super + w or get rid of the delay for alt+tab its helpful
[17:02] <andrew> but I'd love to have it at half the width it is now
[17:02] <rhpot1991> but the lack of gnome applets or xchat tray icon burnt me then, so I went back to classic again
[17:03] <jedijf> super + s did something too, but i can't remember now
[17:03] <rhpot1991> andrew: no issues with things hiding under it then?
[17:03] <rhpot1991> jedijf: displays the desktops I htink
[17:03] <andrew> super + s is expo
[17:03] <rhpot1991> yep
[17:03] <rhpot1991> all of those work in classic mode too
[17:03] <andrew> (used to be super + e)
[17:03] <rhpot1991> super + e does nothing now
[17:03] <andrew> rhpot1991: nothing is hiding under it now
[17:03] <rhpot1991> andrew: when maximized?
[17:04] <rhpot1991> how'd you get that to happen
[17:04] <jedijf> super tap or super hold...can't remember does the gnome-do'ish thing
[17:04] <andrew> I miss having the workspace chooser as one-click to change
[17:04] <andrew> and of course, super+space no longer brings up gnome-do
[17:04] <jedijf> andrew: super tap or hold
[17:04] <andrew> rhpot1991: most of my windows are maximized
[17:04] <andrew> tap?
[17:04] <jedijf> try it
[17:04] <jedijf> quick hit
[17:05] <andrew> I don't have a tap/hold key
[17:05] <jedijf> just tap the super key
[17:05] <andrew> and I'm not a fan of the unity super thing, it's too slow
[17:05] <rhpot1991> superhold makes it show up
[17:05] <jedijf> thanks....
[17:05] <andrew> also, it fails to search the way gnome-do did
[17:05] <rhpot1991> and then you can hit 1-x for the shortcuts in order
[17:05] <andrew> I had gnome-do trained to accept 'e' (or 'erm..') for terminal
[17:06] <rhpot1991> let me log out and see if I have issues with it covering stuff when autohide is off still
[17:08] <rhpot1991> hmmm thats working
[17:09] <rhpot1991> weird wonder why it was doing that on my other pc
[17:09] <rhpot1991> could be twinview or something
[17:10] <rhpot1991> I need to find a replacement for timer-applet then
[17:11] <rhpot1991> andrew: you can resize the icons in the experimental tab in ccsm
[17:13] <rhpot1991> backglight toggle is useful too
[17:55] <andrew> back
[17:57] <andrew> rhpot1991: thanks, set down to the minimum of 32
[17:58] <rhpot1991> andrew: super + numbers works out well
[17:58] <rhpot1991> and super + w
[17:58] <rhpot1991> for switching quickly
[17:59] <andrew> most of my switching is between workspaces
[18:00] <andrew> not liking super+w, there is very little difference between the highlighted window and the others
[18:02] <andrew> ctrl+alt+[shift]+tab
[18:16]  * jedijf might not have enough dexterity for that one
[18:19] <andrew> so... anyone else expereincing internet troubles today?
[18:19] <JonathanD> freenode just had a minor split...
[18:21] <JonathanD> and another one.
[18:21] <JonathanD> nm, that was the same one.
[18:23] <teddy-dbear> see I was right, it's all JonathanD fault :-D
[18:24] <JonathanD> hah
[18:30] <ChinnoDog> So now that Amazon has had major downtime, who has the most reliable public cloud?
[18:30] <JonathanD> Perhaps sony can make one.
[18:31] <rhpot1991> andrew: go disable the delay for alt+tab too
[18:31] <rhpot1991> that makes that much better
[18:34] <ChinnoDog> JonathanD: Sony is going to make a cloud?
[18:35] <jedijf> psn
[18:42] <rhpot1991> s/cloud/open directory of personal information for the interweb to share/
[18:46] <JonathanD> no, I sure hope not ChinnoDog :p
[18:49] <ChinnoDog> Ok, well, if Amazon is big but not reliable enough... I thought I had read about a way extend EC2 into your own data center
[18:58] <andrew> rhpot1991: where?
[19:00] <rhpot1991> andrew: ccms -> static application switcher > behavior > popup window delay
[19:00] <rhpot1991> its a paper cut now apparently so hopefully they change that
[19:03] <andrew> changed
[19:17] <andrew> rhpot1991: is there a list of paper cuts for this release?
[19:20] <rhpot1991> andrew: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts
[19:20] <PennBot> Title: Bugs in One Hundred Paper Cuts (at bugs.launchpad.net)
[20:25] <ChinnoDog> gobble gobble
[20:35] <ChinnoDog> hi lamalex
[20:45] <ssweeny> looks like lamalex made it to hungary safe and sound
[20:45] <pleia2> hopefully he doesn't ruin it before we get there
[20:46] <ssweeny> yarly
[20:47] <lamalex> you guys it rules here
[20:47] <lamalex> i have a hot date with a hot german girl in an hour
[20:47] <pleia2> :)
[20:47] <pleia2> haha
[20:52] <ssweeny> well done my friend
[20:54] <lamalex> i just washed my shirt in the bathtub to wash the bo smell out of it and now im drying it with a hair dryer
[20:54] <lamalex> classy++
[20:56]  * ssweeny takes notes
[21:00] <ChinnoDog> lol
[21:10] <MutantTurkey> lamalex:  date with a german girl? pffft the all smell distinctly european, she won't be able to notice your shirt
[21:12] <ChinnoDog> oh yea, MutantTurkey? You would know?
[21:12] <MutantTurkey> D:
[21:21] <lamalex> zing