[00:16] <RAOF> thopiekar: I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do, or what the actual problem is.  Pastebinning the complete error message is generally useful.
[00:17] <thopiekar> RAOF: got it now working.. I want to build Xorg 1.9 with ABI 8 on natty..
[00:17] <thopiekar> basicly a downgrade for emgd drivers..
[00:17] <thopiekar> see ppa:thopiekar/emgd
[00:18] <thopiekar> I still needed to downgrade libxi and some other x11proto packages..
[00:18] <thopiekar> xorg-server will follow when the deps I uploaded are built
[00:18] <RAOF> Ah, right.
[00:19] <RAOF> Yeah, to actually install xorg 1.9 you'll need to rebuild all the drivers.
[00:20] <thopiekar> sure worked well, too. I set as version xorg-server-dev (uploaded version)  as dep for the drivers..
[00:21] <thopiekar> finally I'll add a meta-package keeping these packages from upgrading to nattys packages..
[00:21] <thopiekar> here Xorg 1.10 with ABI 10
[12:48] <soren> Are these USB<->VGA things supposed to "just work"?
[13:01] <RAOF> soren: No, in *so* many ways.
[13:02] <RAOF> soren: The kernel DRM doesn't know about them, and until recently didn't accept anything not hanging off something which looks sufficiently like a PCI bus (although Dave Airlied has done some work here) and X doesn't know how to probe USB devices.  An xorg.conf is mandatory.
[13:08] <soren> RAOF: ..but it can be made to work?
[13:08] <soren> RAOF: I mean, without writing a driver myself :)
[13:08] <RAOF> soren: In theory, yes.
[13:09] <soren> I have a Lenovo USB port replicator with a DVI output on it. I'm trying to work out which driver it's supposed to work with.
[13:10] <RAOF> Maybe displaylink?
[13:11] <RAOF> But it's entirely possible that the Lenovo USB port thingy doesn't currently have a driver, actually.  All USB video devices are not necessarily the same.
[13:12] <soren> RAOF: Darn it. I went with the Lenovo in spite of the lacking details on chipsets, because Lenovo stuff tends to be very well supported.
[13:13] <RAOF> Does it only plug into USB, or does it plug into the docking port thingy?  Presumably you've tried just plugging it in and seeing if it works? :)
[13:15] <soren> Just USB.
[13:15] <soren> ...and yeah, just plugging it in doesn't do much (in terms of video).
[13:15] <soren> at all.
[13:18] <soren> Oh, well.. I guess I could use another door stop.
[13:20] <RAOF> :/
[13:21] <RAOF> There either might already be a driver or it might be easy to modify an one to work.
[13:22] <soren> Smells like something that needs both time *and* motivation. Two scarce resources.
[13:26] <RAOF> Yup.
[13:26] <RAOF> Googling for whatever chipset's on the other end of the USB tree might yield a low investment reward.
[13:47] <soren> RAOF: Information seems very, very limited.
[13:47] <soren> 17ef:3033 is the USB id of the port replicator. http://paste.ubuntu.com/602251/
[13:48] <soren> search for "USB Video".
[14:00] <soren> Ok, since I declared it a door stop anyway, I decided to void the warranty and take the thing apart to find out which chip is in it.
[14:04] <soren> Silicon image 164ctg64
[14:06] <tjaalton> try setting up the -sisusb driver
[14:07] <soren> tjaalton: I tried. It just said it didn't find any supported device, but I guess that could just mean it didn't recognize the USB vendor/product.
[14:10] <soren> Hm.... /me treis
[14:10] <soren> tries, even
[14:10] <tjaalton> is sisusbvga module loaded?
[14:10] <tjaalton> +kernel