[06:09] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:09] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[06:09]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[06:13] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[06:13] <Kilos> Maaz, thank you
[06:13] <Maaz> Kilos: No problem
[06:24] <Kilos> Maaz, whats for breakfast
[06:24] <Maaz> Wheatbix today Kilos, and if you are still hungry maybe bacon and eggs.
[07:14]  * nlsthz-nwork waves
[07:39] <superfly> môre oom Kilos
[07:40] <superfly> en nlsthz-nwork
[07:56] <nlsthz-nwork> superfly: g'day mate
[08:40] <Squirm> morning
[08:41] <Squirm> how's natty treating everybody?
[08:42] <superfly> well
[08:43] <superfly> KDE 4.6 is awesome
[08:47] <mazal> Morning everyone
[08:51] <nlsthzn-work> superfly: Got to agree.... it is super slick
[08:51]  * nlsthzn-work waves @ mazal 
[08:51] <mazal> I did a Kubutnu build last night. Must say it is really beautiful 
[08:51] <Squirm> I'm more of a gnome fan
[08:51] <Squirm> but it doesnt look like gde anymore
[08:53] <mazal> anybody else use ps3 media server ?
[08:53] <mazal> Mine refuses to work on 11.04
[08:53]  * acherv said hi @all
[08:53] <mazal> Hi acherv
[08:53] <acherv> mazal: what's up?
[08:54] <mazal> Bit tired & wired but I be good thanx :)
[08:55] <acherv> mazal: I would like to know the news about the natty party in pretoria
[08:55] <mazal> I don't know much , incoming mail broken so haven't received much on the mailing lists for a while
[10:18] <Kilos> hi all. LTS is for 5 years hey?
[10:18] <Kilos> hope i got it right
[10:20] <mazal> Yep , think you are right
[10:24] <mazal> 3 years on LTS Desktop
[10:24] <mazal> 5 Years on LTS server
[10:25] <Kilos> ah. ty
[10:25] <mazal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[10:25] <Kilos> Maaz, give the man a cuppa
[10:25] <Maaz> Kilos: Sorry...
[10:28] <Kilos> aw i didnt read properly on lists again. apologies
[10:57]  * Kilos wonders who is that domdonner on the lists. every time he opens his mouth, he puts his foot in it
[10:57] <Kilos> hehe
[11:03] <mazal> We have any handbrake users here ? I'm struggling with a setting
[11:07]  * nlsthzn-work used handbrake many moons ago... so doubt he will be of use...
[11:07] <tumbleweed> mazal: it would help if you just asked your question
[11:20] <mazal> I convert to mp4 (for PS3 streaming) I created my own settings set. Now after re-install I put back all my settings , put it on mp4 , but the filename refuses to take .mp4. Keeps going to m4v
[11:21] <mazal> Previously it took .mp4
[11:37] <Kilos> mazal, there is a #handbrake channel
[11:38] <Kilos> maybe they not as busy
[11:38] <Kilos> 50 peeps there
[11:39] <Kilos> you know how to get there hey?
[11:39] <mazal> Thanx Kilos , yep I know , will check it out thanx
[11:39] <Kilos> yw
[11:59] <nuvolari> *o/
[11:59] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos 
[11:59] <Kilos> lo nuvolari  gaain dit goed
[11:59] <Kilos> gaan ook
[12:00] <nuvolari> dit gaan goed dankie oom
[12:00] <nuvolari> het gister getrek
[12:00] <nuvolari> was amper dood
[12:01] <Kilos> eish
[12:01] <nlsthzn-work> nuvolari: where too?
[12:01] <Kilos> wat het gebeur
[12:01] <tumbleweed> mazal: mp4 and m4v are the same file format, just different extensions
[12:01] <tumbleweed> mazal: you can rename the one to the other
[12:02] <tumbleweed> (incidentally, they are also the same format of .mov, well, a subset of .mov)
[12:02] <mazal> I tried , but it automatically puts in the m4v
[12:02] <tumbleweed> mazal: no I mean you can rename it after its encoded
[12:02] <mazal> kewl
[12:02] <tumbleweed> also the name really shouldn't matter
[12:02] <mazal> I wonder if the PS3 wil play it as m4v though
[12:02] <tumbleweed> it's the same thing
[12:03] <nuvolari> nlsthzn-work: about 600m from where I used to stay :P
[12:03] <mazal> First have to get ps3 media server working as well. another thing not working in 11.04
[12:03] <Kilos> so nuvolari why you nearly died?
[12:04] <nuvolari> Kilos: dis baie werk oom! lol
[12:04] <Kilos> o lol;
[12:04] <mazal> ek hoor net die woord trek dan wil ek weghol LOL
[12:04] <nuvolari> definitief
[12:04] <nlsthzn-work> nuvolari: lol, I hope it was a step up then :)
[12:05] <Kilos> wag tot jy n vier slaap kamer huis met 30 jaar se gereedskap moet skyf
[12:05] <nuvolari> nlsthzn-work: definitely
[12:05] <mazal> Amazing the amount of rubish one can accumulate
[12:05] <nlsthzn-work> :)
[12:05] <Kilos> good. hopefully no more all night parties
[12:05] <nuvolari> Kilos: oom, ek kan dit glo... 'n mens sal seker huil ook van al die memories
[12:06] <Kilos> eish. ons het gesukkel. 3 trips met n 5 ton trock
[12:06] <Kilos> baie bly dis verby
[12:06] <mazal> Eina !!!
[12:15] <Kilos> mazal,  did you win with renaming the .mp4's
[12:16] <Kilos> those #handbrake peeps dont seem to be very helpful hey?
[12:16] <mazal> Nope , nobody in #handbrake answering. Will follow tumbleweed's advice
[12:16] <Kilos> luckily there is #ubuntu-za
[12:17] <Kilos> tumbles been spot on every time i needed help
[12:17] <mazal> Will have to look into Mediatomb first though. Need to get the streaming working first
[12:17] <Kilos> also remember when you need help try explain your problem as thoroughly as possible
[12:18] <Kilos> i have noticed just asking for help upsets most geeks
[12:18] <Kilos> hehe
[12:18]  * Kilos ducks
[12:19] <mazal> I tend to fist check if someone is around before typing the whole story hehehehe
[12:19] <Kilos> no , better to say what help you need
[12:20] <Kilos> otherwise everyone just lurks
[13:49] <nuvolari> bleh. hanging curtains is almost just as much work as moving
[13:53] <nlsthzn-work> lol
[14:38] <acherv> .
[14:39] <nlsthzn-work> ..
[14:39]  * acherv find someone who use ubuntu in pretoria
[14:42] <superfly> acherv: are you on the mailing list?
[14:42] <superfly> acherv: have you looked at the site?
[14:42] <acherv> ya
[14:47] <mazal> Why acherv ? You need cd ?
[14:48] <acherv> mazal: i would like to assist Natty release in pretoria and i have to some problem
[14:49] <mazal> have to some problem ? 
[14:51] <acherv> ya
[14:51] <acherv> with my graphic card
[15:43] <nlsthzn-work> bai
[17:11] <inetpro> good evening
[17:19] <mazal> Lo inetpro
[17:22] <Kilos> lo inetpro howzit
[17:24] <superfly> .
[17:25] <Kilos> you been very quiet here lately hey?
[17:25] <superfly> me or him?
[17:26] <inetpro> Kilos: I guess I've been afk way to much
[17:26] <mazal> Truecrypt also not working on 11.04. Gives the error "device-mapper: remove ioctl failed: Device or resource busy. Command failed" Any ideas ?
[17:26] <Kilos> lol him
[17:26] <Kilos> you always here
[17:26] <Kilos> even when you erent
[17:27] <Kilos> Maaz, define afk
[17:27] <Maaz> Kilos: AFK   [MUD] Abbrev. for ?Away From Keyboard?. Used to notify others that you will be momentarily unavailable online. eg. ?Let's not go kill that frost giant yet, I need to go AFK to make a phone call?. Often MUDs will have a command to politely inform others of your absence when they try to talk with you. The term is not restricted to MUDs, however, and has become common in many chat situations, from IRC to Unix talk. , AFK Away from
[17:27] <Kilos> Maaz,  ty
[17:27] <Maaz> You're Welcome I'm sure
[17:27] <superfly> Kilos: true :-)
[17:28]  * inetpro lol
[17:28] <Kilos> hmmm afk supposed to be used to notify peeps you gonna be away for a while, not you were
[17:29] <Kilos> ma define MUDS
[17:29] <Kilos> grrr
[17:29] <Kilos> Maaz, define MUDs
[17:29] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know about MUDs. Maybe you meant Mus, Mud, Duds, Suds, mods, Muss, mus, mud, musd, duds, suds, muss, mds, mtds or mmds?
[17:30] <Kilos> Maaz, define MUD
[17:30] <Maaz> Kilos: Mud \Mud\ (m[u^]d), n. [Akin to LG. mudde, D. modder, G. moder mold, OSw. modd mud, Sw. modder mother, Dan. mudder mud. Cf. {Mother} a scum on liquors.] Earth and water mixed so as to be soft and adhesive. [1913 Webster]  {Mud bass} (Zool.), a fresh-water fish ({Acantharchum pomotis} or {Acantharchus pomotis}) of the Eastern United States. It produces a deep grunting note.  {Mud bath}, an immersion of the body, or some part of it, in
[17:30] <Kilos> eish
[17:30]  * Kilos forgets MUDs
[17:31] <inetpro> Kilos: eish, sorry
[17:31] <Kilos> gp boet
[17:32] <Kilos> jou beurt is jou beurt
[17:32] <inetpro> Kilos: I will be back later... need to get ready for dinner 
[17:32] <Kilos> hee hee hee
[17:32] <Kilos> ty
[19:04]  * nlsthzn waves
[19:09]  * Kilos waves back
[19:11] <nlsthzn> :)
[21:00] <inetpro> .
[21:09] <Kilos> .
[21:09] <Kilos> ..
[21:09] <Kilos> whats that mean
[21:10] <Kilos>  .-- .... .- - ...   .-.-.-   -- . .- -.   .. -. . - .--. .-. ---
[21:12] <Kilos> hehe he members
[21:16] <Squirm> Maaz: morse .-- .... .- - ...   .-.-.-   -- . .- -.   .. -. . - .--. .-. ---
[21:16] <Maaz> Squirm: Decodes as WHATS  .  MEAN  INETPRO
[21:17] <inetpro> heh
[21:18] <inetpro> Kilos: . = E
[21:18] <Kilos> lol
[21:19] <inetpro> or short for heh
[21:19] <inetpro> or I'm here
[21:19] <Kilos> ah
[21:19] <inetpro> :-)
[21:19] <Kilos> hehe
[21:20] <Kilos> where you guys learn all this stuff
[21:20] <inetpro> Kilos: or I'm here but don't want to disturb you
[21:20] <Kilos> oh you so thoughtful
[21:20] <Kilos> just finished chatting to my chick
[21:20] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm just making it up as I go :-)
[21:20] <Kilos> lol
[21:21] <Kilos> sense of humour too
[21:21] <Kilos> things looking good
[21:24] <Kilos> i really wish we would start growing here agin
[21:24] <Kilos> so sad this tiny channel
[21:25] <Kilos> Squirm, you membered the morse bit with maaz hey
[21:25] <Kilos> do you still member how o get mxit on karmic
[21:25] <Kilos> how to
[21:26] <Squirm> yes
[21:26] <Squirm> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[21:26] <Squirm> sudo aptitude purge empathy
[21:27] <Squirm> sudo aptitude install pidgin
[21:32] <Kilos> wow thats different
[21:32] <Kilos> will give it a go ty
[21:32] <Kilos> lwekker about maverick its already in there
[21:34] <Kilos> bed time for senior citizens
[21:35] <Kilos> sleep tight all
[21:35] <inetpro> Kilos: what's so different there?
[21:35] <inetpro> hmm... hy gaan slaap?
[21:35] <Kilos> didnt do it that way the first time
[21:35] <inetpro> ahh ok, lekker slaap Kilos
[21:35] <Kilos> had to get purple or something
[21:35] <inetpro> Kilos: no, pidgin has been pidgin for ever
[21:35] <Kilos> ok all. see ya morrow
[21:36] <Kilos> no man
[21:36] <Kilos> mxit in pidgfin
[21:36] <Kilos> not pidgin itself
[21:36] <inetpro> well, not quite but it was pidgin ever since it was renamed
[21:36] <Kilos> yes but in karmic it doesnt have mxit
[21:36] <inetpro> Kilos: but mxit is just an addon
[21:37] <Kilos> yes but not easy to find back then
[21:37] <inetpro> oh yes and the addon came later
[21:37] <Kilos> only Squirm  helped me
[21:37] <inetpro> ok
[21:37] <Squirm> hmm
[21:37] <Squirm> oh
[21:37] <Squirm> karmic
[21:37] <Kilos> and now i still got one karmic going but without mxit
[21:37]  * Squirm ponders
[21:37] <Kilos> lol
[21:38] <Kilos> you missed karmic Squirm 
[21:38] <Kilos> hehe
[21:38] <Kilos> member you helped me a year ago or more
[21:38] <Squirm> I did
[21:38] <Squirm> I remember
[21:38] <Kilos> was actually quite a simple command but so long ago
[21:39] <Kilos> mavericks pidgin got everything
[21:39] <Kilos> im  not an empathy fan
[21:40] <inetpro> ok maybe I'm wrong about mxit being an addon
[21:41] <inetpro> mxit should just work together with gtalk if I remember correctly
[21:41] <Squirm> inetpro: mxit is an addon
[21:41] <inetpro> ok
[21:41] <Squirm> Kilos: did we have to update libpurple?
[21:41] <Squirm> was it libpurple 1.6 or something?
[21:41] <Kilos> something like that yes
[21:42] <Kilos> i remember it was somewthing to do with purple
[21:42] <Squirm> are you at that pc now?
[21:42]  * inetpro just can't seem to find the mxit addon right now
[21:42] <Squirm> inetpro: it's built into libpurple
[21:42] <Kilos> inetpro, where are you looking?
[21:43] <Kilos> on karmic?
[21:43] <inetpro> I looked in the plugins as well as in the protocols and in the ubuntu repositories
[21:44]  * inetpro is running maverick
[21:44] <Kilos> it was something we had to add to purple for karmic
[21:44] <Kilos> maverick has it in already
[21:45] <Kilos> just go accounts
[21:45] <Kilos> add account and its in the list there
[21:45] <Kilos> with aim and all the others
[21:45] <Kilos> i love maverick
[21:46] <inetpro> Kilos: ahh, I missed it
[21:46] <Kilos> will keep it and install natty alongside if it will
[21:46] <Kilos> you need glasses lad
[21:46] <Kilos> hehe
[21:47] <inetpro> eish, maybe I need sleep
[21:47] <Kilos> lol
[21:48] <Kilos> ok guys. sleep tight. we look morrow for how to update libpurple on karmic