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KM0201mister_m, honestly, i didn't know there was a difference in the two00:39
zenroxdifferance of what KM020100:51
KM0201zenrox, between xfce session and xubuntu session.00:52
KM0201<mister_m> the xfce session seems to be running smoother than the xubuntu session00:52
zenroxya thares a differance00:52
KM0201zenrox, didn't know that.. whats the difference?00:52
zenroxi use the xbuntu its what it loads at login of xfce00:52
zenroxxfce is just xfce apps00:53
drcFrom what I could see, it was mainly menu(s).00:53
drcand xfce apps with no gnome00:53
zenroxxubuntu its menus,and gnome services00:53
KM0201oh ok.. i don't reallyc are, i've honestly just never noticed it before00:53
zenroxme neather00:53
zenroxand the xubuntu isfine00:53
drcIf you want to see how good a job the xubuntu did on their release...comparte the xubuntu and xfce sessions menus :)00:54
KM0201hmm00:54
KM0201lol00:54
KM0201i've got lubuntu running right now, wanted to give it a trial run, but imagine it might be a similar scenario00:54
zenroxthe xubuntu has more menu idems00:54
drczenrox: without re-booting it (so I may be wrong) but look at the settings menu especially00:55
KM0201i like lxde  NO UBUNTU SOFTWARE CENTER.. i hate that00:55
drcKM0201: delee it00:55
drc*delete00:55
zenroxdrc, i think your right but i am fine the way it is00:56
zenroxits perfect00:56
KM0201drc, i don't need t, its not on lxde..lol00:56
drcnot perfect...you can't drag and drop <files>, just all to the panel :(00:56
drctime to quit...fingers going...can only drag and drop APPS...sheesh00:57
zenroxlol00:57
mister_mI just used the xfce session in the first place, and I really dont know of the differences, but someone told me xubuntu had less weird bugs or something like that00:59
drcIf unity==bugs, then you are correct00:59
zenroxrofl01:00
zenroxunity = bug +201:00
zenroxlol01:00
mister_mI've heard unity is really buggy.01:01
mister_mon reddit01:01
mister_mthat is pretty :(01:01
zenroxunity suckes imho01:01
mister_mI wonder if there is an xfce version of debian01:01
zenroxit was nice to use but i wanted my normal menus like gnome has01:01
drcmister_m: Not so much "buggy" now as "different", and some people equate something they don't like/understand as "bugs"01:01
zenroxyesthare is01:01
zenroxin debian you can install xfce01:02
zenroxthay have it in there repos01:02
mister_mdrc, I could understand that01:02
drcmister_m: yes, debian and linux mint debian edition-xfce01:02
mister_mI'll look into unity more when I have some free time01:04
drcmister_m: it does what it does well, keep an open mind about it...but make up your own mind, not what your read (usually mostly bad)01:05
Seqisdrc, I'm sitting in #xubuntu because I spent a good chunk of time trying Unity & Gnome 3.... both of them are brothers in a a family I have no intention of joining. I'm pretty sure I'll be sitting the Xubuntu camp for the foreseeable future.01:20
WhitePelicanI'm running xubuntu - natty narwhal and I have a problem with Skype01:21
Seqis...I might reconsider it if they port the GTK 2.x panels & desktop environment over to GTK 3.x (or fork GTK 2.x)... but I'm not holding my breath for either.01:21
WhitePelicancan someone help?01:21
drcSeqis: Me too, but I just don't buy into the Unity==Spawn of Satan mythology01:22
WhitePelicanI installed from medibuntu01:22
drcSeqis: IIRC, xfce 4.10 will be on gtk3...it's some where on the xfce roadmap01:22
Seqisdrc, lol ... well "spawn of satan" ... no.... but someone in Canonical & Gnome were sharing the same blunt of weed the month they came up with their similar, Fisher Price interfaces.01:22
Seqisdrc, it's not GTK 3.x that scares me... it's the current GTK 3.x default shell.01:23
KM0201WhitePelican, why on earth did you install it from medibuntu?01:23
WhitePelicannot sure01:23
WhitePelicanwhere else should I have installed it from?01:23
KM0201WhitePelican, you do realize that you could have simply downloaded the .deb from skype.com and installed it.01:23
WhitePelicantrue01:24
Seqisdrc, they can move to GTK 3.x ... just keep the same shell (i.e. desktop environment)01:24
WhitePelican:)01:24
WhitePelicancan I uninstall and then install from the deb?01:24
KM0201hoold on01:24
drcSeqis: Actually, Because of what their target audience is,  I think Unity/GNOME Shell will be a short term loss but a long term win.01:24
KM0201WhitePelican, run  "sudo apt-get purge skype"01:24
Seqisdrc, maybe ... I think 4 year olds, the adults using tablets and smartphones will love it.01:25
WhitePelicanoh ok01:25
WhitePelicanty KM020101:25
KM0201then remove the medibuntu repo from your source list (that was dumb in itself) then go downoad the skype .deb file, and install it01:25
WhitePelicanI also added medibuntu for libdvdcss2 and the win32codecs01:26
Seqisdrc, if Xubuntu goes the way of the Unity-stylized DoDo ... I guess I'll be moving to hmm Debian + LXDE? I donno....01:26
WhitePelicanunless you know of another way to install those01:27
drcWhitePelican: You can install libdvdcss2 w/o medibuntu...see the restricted extras web page01:27
drclet me find the URL01:27
drchttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/01:28
drcor01:28
KM0201WhitePelican, again, totally unecessary both o those are in regular ubuntu repos.01:28
SeqisI think you need medibuntu for vlc01:29
drcKM0201: in the repos now...hmmm...didn't know that01:29
KM0201drc, affirmative... ubuntu-restricted-extras01:29
KM0201installs everything you need01:29
drcSeqis: nope...I don't have medibuntu and I use vlc01:29
KM0201or xubuntu-restricted-extras or lubuntu-restricted-extras, etc01:29
Seqisok... i wasn't sure... hence the "I think..." prefix... :)01:29
KM0201Seqis, negative, vlc is in the standard repo01:30
KM0201actually, libdvdcss2 is as well..01:30
KM0201you just have to run the installer on it.. (it's not installed by default)01:30
SeqisThere's only 1 medibuntu right, not one for Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc..01:30
KM0201Seqis, yes, but my point was, there's ubuntu-restricted-extras, lubuntu-restricted-extras, kubuntu-restricted-extras, etc.01:31
drcKM0201: I use the web page, because I ONLY install libdvdcss01:31
zenroxSeqis, its for all ubuntu flavors01:31
KM0201but they all essentially install the same packages01:31
drcNo medibuntu, no restricted extras01:31
SeqisI thought so zenrox. Being new to Xubuntu, I wanted to cehck.01:31
KM0201drc, you don't need medibuntu to install libdvdcss2 either01:32
drcReally ;)01:32
KM0201yes.. or am i missing something?01:32
KM0201i've never used medibuntu, and install libdvdcss2 w/o issue.01:32
drcKM0201: See the Joking Smilie ?01:33
KM0201drc, i think i'm a little off in the head tonight.01:33
KM0201lol01:33
mister_mwait that's right, we don't have the gnome shell on xfce01:35
mister_mreally I upgraded, and the only thing that visibly changed was some menu stuff/programs, and my theme01:35
Seqisif I had a fresh install of Xubuntu, and then booted into a live CD, mounted the installed /home/user path and copied over my ~/.config/xfce4 to the new install and rebooted, would I have all my panels and xfce preferences all pre-set as I had on my 1st box?01:39
SnakkahHow do I make gnome-screensaver the default screensaver app instead of xscreensaver?02:24
KM0201hmm02:33
SnakkahHmm?02:33
hansinAnyone have a tips on getting dual monitor working with ATI default/open source driver on 11.04? The display manager (from settings) has options for dual monitor (though did bad job of it). Xubunuu display manager does not have any dual monitor options from what I can tell. I would think this would be included, as I know ATI open source driver supports. Thanks.02:34
hansinSorry, was not clear: the display manager in Ubuntu 11.04 has dual monitor options (spanning across monitors), Xubuntu 11.04 does not (from what I can tell).02:37
mister_msee like right now after the upgrade, I sometimes get stuck in a weird bug of me not being able to open or close programs from the panel02:42
mister_mand it is also super slow getting a right click menu on the desktop\02:44
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* KM0201 yells WOOT!!!!!!!!04:21
a7endedhi, im new to xubuntu and i need some assistance?04:35
bin_bashok04:36
bin_bashhow can we assist you today?04:36
KM0201woo woooooooooooo!04:36
* bin_bash puts on professional gear04:36
a7endedi installed xubuntu today04:37
a7endedand its been working great04:37
a7endedbut occasionally, it seems to become unresponsive04:37
a7endedthe mouse shows a "fist" but i cant click anything and the keyboard does not work04:37
a7endedi usually restart the computer by powering off to fix it04:38
a7endedthis is the xubuntu 11.0404:38
a7endedany idea what is wrong?04:38
KM0201a7ended: first thing i would do.. is try disabling compositing.. just to see if thats causing the issue.04:53
a7endedhow do i do that?04:53
KM0201..04:53
KM0201you would ask that..lol, and i'm not even using xfce anymore..04:54
KM0201bin_bash: are you around?04:54
bin_bashyah04:54
KM0201tell him how to disable compositing, i can't remember04:54
KM0201settings, settings mgr.. then i'm lost04:54
KM0201window tweaks?04:54
bin_bashgo to settings manager > winow manager tweaks > composition04:54
KM0201i know its the last tab, no matter what its on04:55
KM0201bin_bash: u gotta try lxde.. :)  i <3 it04:55
bin_bashscreenshotit04:55
a7endedok, i disabled it04:55
a7endedwhat does compositing do?04:55
KM0201a7ended: window shadowing, etc..04:56
KM0201http://imagebin.org/151254    bin_bash04:56
a7endedoo04:56
KM0201a7ended: i had some issues w/ it making my laptop hourglass on occasion, but it never completely locked up04:57
bin_bashKM0201: nice04:57
a7endedthx guys, i''ll see if my computer still freezes04:58
KM0201bin_bash: it's a little getting used to... one interesting hting... it doesn't use Pulse audio.04:58
bin_bashwhat does it use04:58
KM0201a7ended: ok.. if that doesn't work.. then come back here during the day, adn ask some of the senior guys how to check your logs, etc04:58
KM0201bin_bash: alsa04:58
a7endedthank you04:58
jgouldWhere in the world do I find settings for the trackpad?!?!05:49
zetsuboukittehhey, any thoughts what might be the problem; updgraded to natty and a game I could play flawlessly before (xmoto) lags quite a lot now06:12
Soupermanhave you updated the graphic drivers?06:24
xubuntu205lhi07:32
xubuntu205#quit07:33
belakIs it possible to set up a keyboard shortcut that takes me to the next desktop?07:35
ochosibelak: you mean like ctrl + alt + arrow-right ?07:47
belakYeah07:47
ochosithat one actually works07:47
belakDidn't know that existed07:47
ochosiyou can also use the other arrows obviously07:47
belakAnyway to change that?07:47
ochosidepending on how you set up your desktops07:48
ochosiyou can also use ctrl + alt + 1...007:48
ochosito jump directly to desktop number X07:48
ochosinot sure you can change the shortcut, let me have a quick look07:48
ochosibelak: some of those shortcuts can be found in settings > window manager > keyboard07:49
ochosithey can also be changed there07:49
ochosithe one with the arrow keys doesn't seem to be listed there07:50
ochosiso i assume it's a system default07:50
ochosinot sure if/where you could change that07:50
belakThey're in there...07:50
belakThanks07:50
ochosioh, then i didn't look close enough :)07:50
ochosinp07:50
belakI've been using gentoo for ages... finally decided to try something easier to use and see if it doesn't eat up as much of my time...07:51
kaiyinhwo can i clear thunar's context menu?08:05
mikeatvillageHi.  I just installed the "StartUp Manager" from the Software Centre, but it doesn't seem to do anything :-(  Does it not work with Grub2 ?08:23
mikeatvillageI have xubuntu and lubuntu (both 11.4) and want to switch the default boot around.08:26
MK``mikeatvillage: do you mean you want to select which to use (xubuntu desktop or lubuntu desktop)?08:49
mikeatvillageYes please MK08:51
mikeatvillageWell, I want xubuntu as default08:51
MK``mikeatvillage: at the login screen, you select which one to use at the bottom of the screen08:56
mikeatvillageYes, I can do that OK, but I want xubuntu to be the one which boots by default after the 10 sec timeout08:58
Sysiyou shouldn't choose in grub, you should have only one install and both desktops on it..09:01
Sysibut you can: gksudo mousepad /etc/default/grub09:02
Sysiexept that i'm not sure if you can edit that sensibly eith two linux installs..09:03
MK``yeah, did you install 2 separate installations on one hd?09:07
mikeatvillageI'm not sure about that either. Would what I see in /etc/default/grub not depend on which system I'd booted into?09:08
mikeatvillageYes MK, I had xubuntu first and then put lubuntu into the frre space I'd left on the hdd09:09
MK``Oh. You do not need to do that. You can install the lubuntu desktop package inside xubuntu09:10
MK``and then when you get to the username/password screen you can select which desktop09:10
MK``If you haven't used the lubuntu installation yet I'd delete it09:10
mikeatvillageBut I want the 2 to be completely separate09:11
MK``alright then. Then you'd edit grub I guess, but I do not know how to do this.09:12
MK``However that should be very easy, maybe as in #ubuntu09:13
mikeatvillageEditing grub was the way to do it in the past, but grub2 seems to be configured differently.  I'm looking at a "Grub Customiser" on ubuntuguide.net at the moment ... I don't want to trash this system again as I've carried out at least 5 installations in the past couple of days :-))09:15
mikeatvillageThanks MK, I'll pop up to #ubuntu09:16
MK``good luck09:25
Sysiyou *could* get all your data from lubuntu, install lubuntu-desktop to your xubuntu, remove lubuntu, and install grub back from xubuntu09:27
Sysiactually doing just the last step could do what you want09:27
Sysi!grub209:27
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)09:27
Sysirestoring grub ^09:28
Sysiahem.. i could tell all that better myself09:29
Sysiboot to xubuntu and run "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sdX"09:30
xubuntu741hello everyone09:30
xubuntu741i was hopeing to find some help here09:31
Sysimikeatvillage: if uyou only got one hdd, /dev/sda09:31
Sysixubuntu741: pop a question and see if somebody knows09:31
knomeSysi, ahem.. you could update the site then09:31
Sysiknome: "for this case"09:32
xubuntu741i downloaded the 64bit version of xubuntu 10.04, burned it on a cd but it won't boot. 32bit version of xubuntu 10.04 boots with no prob09:32
xubuntu741also any other older 64bit versions can boot without a problem09:33
xubuntu741i googled this prob but didn't found any solution. only one post saying it's motherboard related. gigabyte09:34
xubuntu741does anyone know how to solve this?09:34
Sysidoes it say anything or just doesn't boot?09:34
Sysior where it stops?09:35
xubuntu741it says invalid drive error or something like that09:35
xubuntu741it acts like the cd isn't bootable09:35
xubuntu741but i tested it on other computer and it works09:36
MK``Did you verify the disc image was correct before burning it?09:39
MK``Oh, you tested it on others. But nevertheless.09:40
MK``Actually I need to get going. I'm sure you'll get help! seeya09:41
hejHi, I have installed 11.04 with full disk encryption and kexec... When i reboot, using kexec, I do not get a "enter your passphrase to decrypt your sys." line, but it just looks like the system hangs... Tho it works just typing the passphrase and hitting enter...10:26
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xubuntu955Je vais voir ce que ça va donner. Je l'utilisais avant au travail. Je pense qu'il doit y avoir quelques améliorations13:46
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xubuntu955Ok. Merci13:47
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ubinihello16:39
ubinitrying to install xubuntu 11.04 but I got the same error every time (something related to the Migration has failed... more details on syslog, etc). After rebooting I always get a grub prompt (file not found)16:40
charlie-tcado you have windows on the computer?16:45
fslima0can anyone tell me why the battery thingie on xfce isn't showing on my panel?17:45
KM0201fslima0: did you add it?17:46
fslima0I don't see it on the "Add new item" list17:48
KM0201fslima0: it might be an indciator applet, now that i think about it.17:48
KM0201iswitched to lxde, so i'm not 100% sure.. hang on17:49
fslima0ok17:49
KM0201hmm, no i don't see it17:49
KM0201im sure its there17:49
KM0201go to power management17:49
KM0201probbaly under preferences or admin17:50
KM0201look around through the optios, see if there's a box you can check to "always show battery indicator" or something like that17:50
fslima0yea. that option is on, but it's still not showing anything17:51
fslima0weird17:51
Sysido you have notification area on your panel17:51
* KM0201 agrees17:52
KM0201fslima0: do you see your networking applet?17:52
fslima0i do17:52
KM0201oh wait, thats indicator17:52
KM0201nevermind17:52
KM0201fslima0: try adding "notification area" to your panel17:52
KM0201bbl17:53
fslima0i just installed xubuntu 11.04 and i have everything as default17:54
Sysipress alt F2 and type: nm-applet17:55
drcfslima0: Settings Manager> Power Manager>General   System tray icon17:55
Sysiargh, not nm-applet17:56
Sysixfce4-power-manager17:56
drcSet to Always Show icon...I should show in Notification Area.  If it doesn't we can then start to work.17:57
fslima0Sysi: doesn't work17:57
fslima0and it does not show17:57
drcfslima0: Do you <have> a Notification Area in the panel?17:58
fslima0yea17:58
Sysiso *everything* is default, panel width etc?18:00
fslima0pretty much18:01
drcfslima0: Go to the power manager and make sure the "Monitor...." and "Show...." boxes at the bottom of General are checked18:02
Sysiopen terminal and run xfce4-power-manager there, see if it says something18:03
fslima0drc: checked18:03
fslima0Sysi: didn't say anything. lol18:03
fslima0does not18:03
drcfslima0: Strange18:03
Sysifirst boot after install?18:03
fslima0this looks like a bug to me :)18:03
fslima0no18:04
Sysiit has never been there?18:04
fslima0indeed18:04
fslima0it's a netbook. if that helps18:05
fslima0maybe i should check the panel length.18:05
Sysiwidth, it maybe affects18:05
drcfslima0: Does <anything> show in the notification area?18:05
Sysibut just default should work if nothing goes wrong on installation18:06
fslima0width not length18:06
fslima0yea18:06
fslima0ah i see18:06
fslima0the icon is not showing. but i can still the battery stats. it's just invisible18:07
drcfslima0: cahnge the icon set18:07
alfaLThi, maybe somebody can help me with setting eth card speed? somehow it does not communicate with ftth switch by default18:08
Sysifslima0: get to settings of notification area, change maximum icon size18:08
drcfslima0 Sysi : I have seen that, depending on the icon set chosen, some icons don't show in the notification area...and some disappear and reappear on a reboot...not sure why18:09
Sysiwith one gtk-theme, the most left item on systray was always invicible18:10
drcEven to Kryptonite?18:11
Sysidrc: if he has default icons, shouldn't be possible18:11
drcSysi: True18:11
fslima0got it now. the size of the panel in px can't go lower than 24 otherwise battery icon won't show18:14
fslima0that's bad because i have a netbook.18:14
Josesordohello18:15
fslima0fixed. haha18:15
JosesordoI have a ATI Radeon HD 2600 dedicated.. I just installed xubuntu 11.04, so is better install the driver with the "Install driver tool" or download the .run file from ATI ?18:16
SysiJosesordo: old card?18:16
JosesordoSysi, well I have a ASUS laptop.. F3Ka series.. 200818:17
JosesordoSysi, so.. is old I guess18:18
Sysiif it doesn't work good enough by default, use "Install driver" tool18:18
Josesordook.. lets see then =)18:18
Josesordoanother question.. I can install Compiz in XFCE?18:18
fslima0s***18:19
Sysiwith 11.04 it's broken, you can't get window borders18:19
fslima0compiz in xfce.. bad bad idea :P18:20
Josesordoaw =(18:20
Sysifslima0: not even hashed cursewords please, you can fix that icon issue by settings the max icon size smaller in notification area settings18:20
Josesordowell, I can install some docky like gnome-do in XFCE?18:20
Sysiyup18:20
JosesordoSysi, which one?..18:20
Sysiinstall and run, you propably need compositing enabled from windoe manager settings18:21
Josesordobtw, Im just giving a try to XFCE.. this is my 1st time I installed it xD18:21
Sysiany of them18:21
Josesordoso..to fix the windows border.. I just need to set the size to the max?18:21
fslima0Sysi: where is  the notification are settings? o.O18:22
SysiJosesordo: what?18:22
Sysifslima0: go to very end of screen where the icon should be, and right click18:22
Sysifslima0: not directly on it, but on the edge18:22
SysiJosesordo: you mean with compiz?18:23
JosesordoSysi, I asked that..cuz you said you cant get windows border18:23
JosesordoSysi, yeah..compiz.. sorry english isnt my main language.. xD18:23
Sysiemerald is broken and apparently other possible alternatives too18:23
Josesordometacity ? xD18:24
Sysii should examine this.. they have window borders with unity18:24
Sysibut installing unity after xfce failed for me, and i don't actually like compiz18:25
JosesordoI just want my desktop beautiful.. lol18:26
Sysixubuntu is beautiful already by default :P18:26
Josesordowell, then I will install the ATI driver from "Install driver tool" then.. after, I will try compiz and gnome-do18:27
Sysiwhen compiz fails, alt F2 "xfwm4 --replace"18:27
Josesordothere is something I dont like right now.. the icons in my desktop.. how I remove then?18:27
Sysidesktop settings or delete18:29
JosesordoSysi, this gmusicbrowser have a broken equalizer..I cant set anything =(18:30
Sysipersonally i prefer banshee18:32
Josesordomm.. well, all I want is a music player with good equalizer.. xD18:36
Sysibanshee actually has one, but i haven't even tried it18:37
JosesordoDamn gmusicbrowser making my laptop slow adding music.. xD18:46
zorackhi i was just trying to install xubuntu from a disk that i burned onto an old dell inspiron 8500 and after choosing the option to install xubuntu it is hanging on a xubuntu logo screen for about 3 mins18:51
zorackhow much longr should i wait?18:51
zorackis it going properly?18:52
zorackhelp?18:53
miplithat does not sound right, the screen responded pretty quickly when I installed it18:54
miplinot sure what would cause it though, still new to the Xubuntu world18:54
zorackit is an old computer and i just burned the cd18:54
zorackit is just on a black screen with a small xubuntu logo on it18:55
Sysihow much RAM?18:55
zorackit has 512mb ram18:55
nekoCATzorack, mine hung at the logo for about 7 or 8 minutes before it loaded from live cd18:55
zorackok thx18:55
nekoCATI have 1 Gig of ram.18:55
zorackill go downstairs and check its been a few minutes...18:56
zorackok its prbly been about 10 mins now and its still on tht screen...18:57
nekoCATzorack, what are the specs on the machine?18:59
nekoCATI want to see how it compares to mine.18:59
zorack1sec im checking19:00
zorack2.4ghz pentium cpu, 512mb ram, 40gb hdd19:01
nekoCATIt doesn't seem to match up with mine.  2.2 GHz AMD 64, 1 Gig ram, and 120 GB hdd.19:04
nekoCATIt was just an idea I had that similar hardware produced similar results.19:04
zorackoh19:05
nekoCATIn either case, the hardware should be easily capable of loading the disk.19:06
nekoCATI didn't have the issue until after the second beta so it ws probably a change then.19:06
nekoCATUnfortunately I didn't have the chance to test it betwen then and now so I couldn't report it.19:08
BlackScorphey guys19:24
BlackScorpi have problems with Ubuntu since upgrade to 11.0419:24
BlackScorphad ubuntu 10.10 x86 before19:24
BlackScorpand now i see the error with plymouthd19:24
BlackScorpcannot boot , it stops on checking battery state19:25
BlackScorpwhat can i do?19:25
BlackScorpreinstall?19:25
nekoCATBlackScorp, I generally recommend fresh installs instead of upgrades.19:27
BlackScorpyeah same for me... but this time i didnt watched at upgrade19:27
BlackScorpjust thought it is general updates19:27
nekoCATXfce got a major version update and now uses different backend components.19:28
BlackScorpthere isnt a way to downgrade it?19:28
Josesordohello all :D19:31
Josesordoa question, I can install gnome-do or some other dock app?.. which one is better for XFCE?19:32
nekoCATI would assume gnome-do would work just fine.  Has anyone tested this?19:35
JosesordoIm installing it.. lets see19:39
Josesordomm.. gnome-do in xubuntu dont have the docky behaviour =(19:43
KM0201Josesordo: what does the dock do?20:04
KM0201only show active windows or something?20:04
hobbscis xubuntu 11.04 using pulseaudio?  i installed xubuntu-desktop from ubuntu, so i don't believe i have a stock install20:07
Sysiby default it is there, like in ubuntu20:08
hobbscis pulse required for the sound menu or can i replace it with alsa?20:09
Soupermani think you can replace it20:10
hobbscthanks20:10
Sysiremove and reboot20:11
JosesordoKM0201, well dont have the docky style.. =(20:14
Josesordoanyways, I just installed cairo-clock and Im starting to like it =)20:14
KM0201well.. whats the "docky style"20:15
Soupermanalso a xfce panel is two millions time superior to any docking software out there20:17
TheSheepSouperman: not really, but it's ok20:28
TheSheepI wish it didn't restart in natty when I try to drag windows between workspaces20:28
sakuragnohallo!21:02
sakuragnoi'm tryin to find something to edit application menu in xubuntu10..something like old alcarte21:02
charlie-tcasakuragno: open a terminal and type        lsb_release -a       and tell us the number it gives yoiu21:03
sakuragnook21:04
sakuragnoNo LSB modules are available.21:04
sakuragnoDistributor ID:Ubuntu21:04
sakuragnoDescription:Ubuntu 10.1021:04
sakuragnoRelease:10.1021:04
sakuragnoCodename:maverick21:04
charlie-tcaOkay,m thanks21:04
charlie-tcaXubuntu 10.10 does not have an easy way to edit the menus.21:05
sakuragnoi've to rebuilt new menus?! :P ohh what a hate! why nothing like a frontend?21:05
charlie-tcaYou can use one of these to edit them,21:06
charlie-tca1. [for 4.6] copy '/etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu to '~/.config/xdg/menus' and customize it.21:06
charlie-tca2. [for 4.6] You can also create desktop entries in '~/.local/share/applications' to override the existing applications (change or hide) or add new ones.21:06
charlie-tca3. http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu21:06
Sysiin 11.04 alacarte works21:06
KM0201Sysi: i didn't know that..21:06
Sysinp21:06
sakuragnoi'm blessing zeus that 10.10's working fine on this kinda of stonepc21:07
drcSysi: Have you <used> alacarte yet?21:07
KM0201we are talking xubuntu 11.04, right?21:07
sakuragnonop.. xubuntu10.1021:07
charlie-tcathe individual is asking about editing in xubuntu 10.1021:07
sakuragnoand.. i know that alcarte doesnot work on it21:07
charlie-tcasakuragno: any of those three methods I gave you will work, but there is no editor for it21:08
sakuragnoyep :D i've just fonund them before.. but i dont really want to rewrithe menulist21:08
sakuragnothis is why i'm searching for guieditor21:08
Sysidrc: yeah i tried21:10
drcSysi: sorry...quick afk...did it work?  Fo me it added everything I chose not to show in "Other", which alacarte said was <not> shown.21:27
Sysithen set "other" to not be shown?21:27
Sysiit works like that21:27
drcSysi: It <was> set not to be shown21:28
drcBut Showed up in the menu anyway21:28
Sysifor me it worked, but i think it was archlinux21:28
Josesordosomeone know how to change login screen background image?..21:49
pacy_hey... i just got installed xubuntu ( used lubuntu before ) and now i got this strange prob .. fir of all there is no reaction of pressing the left mouse butten like a sub menue .. i can't even open the menu or the notifications in the panel ... anybody knows what that could be ?23:39
Sysicrashing, try relogin23:45
pacy_thats what i tried in first place23:47
pacy_also xfdesktop --reload23:47
pacy_ok maybe i should reboot that hole thing :)23:48
pacy_ok didnt fixed it either+23:56

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