[00:00] SIR_Taco: the general held view is everything intel is good for linux. but of recent things have been quite unstable for me. being using linux for close to 3 years now. times like this I start to wonder if its really worth it. I just want my pc to work. I had to get a new laptop recently cus the last one gave crappy kwin performance even though its a recent hardware (dell xps m1330) sigh === ubuntu is now known as joah44 [00:04] when playing DVD in vlc, dpms powersaving switches off my monitor. vlc has always prevented this happening in the past (at least in fullscreen mode). anyone else getting this behaviour? [00:04] bigbrovar: have you tried disabling some and/or all of the desktop effects? [00:05] SIR_Taco: I would have to do that for a long time, cus the issue comes up randomly [00:05] last time it happened was 5 days ago [00:05] and before that was 2 weeks ago [00:05] I cant reproduce it [00:06] it just happens [00:06] has anyone had any bad experiences with 64 bit as opposed to 32? [00:06] Magnusson: not in 5 years [00:06] Magnusson: same here. no problem at all [00:07] well i more meant with 10.10 and 11.04 :D but cool good to know [00:07] SIR_Taco: Thanks for ur help, its past midnight here , been at this for close to 3 hours googling and stuff. need some sleep. night guys [00:07] thought i'd read something about flash not playing nice with 64 [00:07] bigbrovar: not a problem [00:08] Magnusson: plays fine here... there are some annoying things, but it's the same all around (32 and 64 bit [00:08] ahh ok, well as long as it's not discriminating hehe [00:08] just found out i can run 64 bit so i'm debating reinstalling [00:08] wanted to minimize my headaches ahead of time [00:09] Magnusson: there is a 64bit flash player (still in beta, I think) but the 32bit one works fine on 64bit so I never even bothered to try it [00:09] Magnusson: I would doubt that you'd find a difference between the two [00:09] cool cool, all good to hear [00:10] ok... now trying to get back on the Letterman show lol [00:10] any one know how to make files download to ubuntu [00:10] for those of you that are using, is the speed difference significantly noticable in 64bit? [00:11] can someone tell me what version vlc is in 11.04 natty? [00:11] hello i have problem with my desktop some times ago i install something and now my cursor is cross and i havent butons for minimalize closed window and etc. [00:11] this is like mac os [00:11] Magnusson: honestly can't say. I haven't used an equivalent 64-bit and 32-bit processor side by side [00:12] I know that "back in the day" it was a nice improvement [00:12] lol yeah [00:12] any help me? [00:13] Magnusson: you could try googling for benchmark tests comparing 64 vs 32 in kubuntu [00:13] iconmefisto> good idea [00:15] Magnusson: my guess is some things will be faster (video encoding, realtime audio processing), but most things will be much the same [00:15] czesiu: what did you install? [00:17] i don't now exacley but i wont change desktop viev i remember it was something with os x in name [00:18] czesiu: so you changed a desktop theme? [00:19] its big problem becouse every time when i startup my ubuntu i always myst go to preferences of desktop and i must change visual efect when i do this button is viev and cursor is normal not cross [00:20] i must startup ubuntu in safe graphic mode [00:20] Anybody know how to fix a sound card? I was using skype, and the first problem that happened is that Kubuntu stopped recognizing my mic. Now, when I was using skype to chat with someone, it royally screwed my sound card. It makes abnormal and not natural sounds for everything [00:21] sir_taco i have cross as my cursor [00:22] czesiu: when you change it, does it stay that way? [00:24] sir_taco yes when i change a visual efect the coursor make a normal but when i restart my system coursor is stil a cross [00:24] czesiu: what cursur "theme" is it set to? [00:25] and when i install new ubuntu 11 i havent acces to menu [00:25] oh can someone clear something up for me? so when it comes to backups, is it true that all i have to do is move my entire home folder to a backup location and then replace it upon reinstall, and then all my stuff will be just as it was? or is there more to it, etc [00:26] !home [00:26] Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome [00:27] Magnusson: more-or-less yes. That will save all your configuration files (customizations and settings for KDE and other programs) plus your personal folders. [00:27] sir_taco ambiance [00:28] SIR_Taco> yeah so as far as all my customizations go, (except for installing specific programs) it'll save all my settings for everything including those programs [00:28] czesiu: what if you set it back to the default? [00:28] how effiecient, go linux :D [00:29] its still this same problem [00:29] Magnusson: how do you plan on backing them up? [00:29] moving to another partition or external drive [00:30] i thing i install something and now i forgot what [00:30] czesiu: perhaps try this: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3112235.0 [00:30] Magnusson: keeping your home folder on a separate partition is the easy way to do it. follow that link ^^ [00:31] Magnusson: should work fine. The only odd problem you may run into is permissions and symbolic links... but really 90% of settings should be fine [00:32] yeah actually i had it set up that way on my last computer but when i installed linux again after a few years using vista, i thought it would just be a little hobby, didn't forsee it taking over my daily computing as it has [00:32] awesome, thanks guys :) [00:32] np [00:33] now back to trying to get on the Letterman show.... if czesiu is done... lol [00:34] lol [00:35] SIR_Taco: what? you mean as a guest? or just trying to watch it? [00:35] iconmefisto: oh, no... i mean watch :P [00:36] have to call back and answer trivia, to get tickets... going to NY next week [00:37] when playing DVD in vlc, dpms powersaving switches off my monitor. vlc has always prevented this happening in the past (at least in fullscreen mode). anyone else getting this behaviour? [00:38] iconmefisto: it happens to me too, in every video program, it's a pain in the butt and I've mentioned it to developers [00:38] would be nice to have a "while playing.... disable powersave/screensaver [00:39] SIR_Taco: the workaround I'm using now is in menu editor, I put xset -dpms && vlc %U && xset +dpms [00:40] SIR_Taco: there is a vlc setting to disable screensaver, but doesn't seem to affect screen powersaving [00:42] iconmefisto: because I think the API has changed if I remember correctly [01:02] how can I send quassel to the tray now that it's inside this message center thingy? [01:03] Walzmyn, tried in #quassel ? [01:04] no [01:04] Hello Umm I seem to be having a problem where my wlan doesn't auto connect to my network at boot up any more, can anyone give my a hand with this or a workaround for now? [01:04] i figured the message center is the thing that's goofing me up [01:04] clashingwave: you got "connect automatically" checked? [01:05] Yes, I have it checked, but it doesn't seem to work [01:09] clashingwave: but it does connect manually? [01:10] Yes it connect manually with no problem === mren is now known as mren|off === Axlin` is now known as Axlin [01:35] Haloo semua................ [01:37] !id\ [01:37] !id [01:37] join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia [01:42] hi, does java applets work with rekonq in Natty? [01:45] the default browser (rekonq on natty) here doesn't run java applets, but firefox does! why? [01:46] Hello Umm I seem to be having a problem where my wlan doesn't auto connect to my network at boot up any more, can anyone give my a hand with this? [01:47] rizvan: is java support enabled (in configure > webkit) [01:48] yes [01:49] http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp (only showing blank area, where the applet should be) [01:52] rizvan: not working for me on rekonq either (I'm running maverick) [02:05] Hello Umm I seem to be having a problem where my wlan doesn't auto connect to my network at boot up any more, can anyone give my a hand with this? [02:07] clashingwave: have you tried creating a new connection to see if it autoconnects? [02:08] iconmefisto umm yes I tried that and it still doesn't work [02:09] Iconmefisto, sorry, was busy with other stuff. [02:09] thanks for confirming [02:09] the default browser does not work with java plugin! [02:10] libqtwebkit issue perhaps [02:14] hello i have problems sync google calendar with kontact [02:19] Hi @ all: Q: Since upgrade to Natty i don't hav Sound anymore. Which Soundserver does Kubuntu use now? Is it PulseAudio now? [02:19] !sound [02:19] If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [02:20] thx genii-around [02:21] np === taiyal is now known as Guest50094 === Guest50094 is now known as taiyal [03:59] anyone notice increase in crashes krdc in 11.04? [04:01] is there a kubuntu dev channel? [04:01] i could find out... [04:01] but.. :) [04:03] found it [04:21] I have a wierd issue, when I double click on downloads in firefox on like a video file it opens it in vlc but it also opens a dolphin window, is there any way I can get it to stop opening the dolphin window? [04:23] Try single-clicking? [04:23] Oh. [04:23] My bad. [04:24] I'm not absolutely sure this is the issue, but maybe Firefox somehow got confused and decided to always open files in a file browser rather than autorunning them, so to speak. It might be burried under FF's options, but I don't know, I haven't used FF since 3.5.11. Worse than IE now x.x [04:24] In terms of speed at least. [04:25] I'm using 4.0 [04:28] hello [04:28] is rekonk still a file browser [04:35] hello [04:35] hi [04:35] this place is quiet tonight [04:38] does anyone know where the sftp key, or finger print is stored? I tried to sftp from dolphin across lan to my other box, and it refused, because I reinstalled, but used the same user name, but the fingerprint has changed, new install. [04:39] shane4kubuntu: IIRC, sftp uses ssh? [04:40] mr-rich: that is what I thought, when I ssh'ed into the box, I moved the ~/.ssh/know_hosts because of the same fingerprint error, and I can ssh over without a problem now [04:40] shane4kubuntu: well, that shoots down my idea ...:( [04:40] mr-rich: however when I tried sftp in dolphin it complained and wouldn't go, said to contact the system admin, lol and that is me. :) [04:41] shane4kubuntu: have you googled something like "sftp fingerprint file" or somesuch? [04:42] no, that is a good thought, let me check that out, I was hoping someone knew off the cuff what the problem was. :) [04:43] shane4kubuntu: I always google first ... 85% of the time I can find my answer there ... [04:43] mr-rich: yes, usually I do too, but sometimes I ask to see if someone knows right off hand. [04:44] mr-rich: or to see if I overlooked the obvious. :) [04:44] I was hanging out here (and #dbus) because a dbus-daemon issue was kicking my ass ... [04:45] guys my pc crashed because of power cut, now Kwin is telling me that it can't enable desktop effects because they are slow === ghost is now known as Ploss === ghost is now known as Guest3300 [04:55] o.O Kinda the same deal here.. But instead, I upgraded to KDE 4.6.2. [04:55] On another distro, just thought I'd say that. Oh, he left.. nevermind me. x.x [05:00] Who: Keshl said something important here for you: o.O Kinda the same deal here.. But instead, I upgraded to KDE 4.6.2. [05:00] On another distro, just thought I'd say that. Oh, he left.. nevermind me. x.x [05:00] Well, not important. I just commented that I have the same issue. [05:01] So if anyone helps Who, could they make sure they ping me or something, please? <.< [05:01] well i found a fix myself [05:02] Keshl: which graphics card you have ? [05:02] nVidia 9800 GTS mobile. [05:03] well i fully removed and reinstall my drivers and it solved the problem [05:03] http://goo.gl/GXBzI [05:03] you can give it a try [05:03] Ohhhh no no o_o' [05:03] See, on Sabayon, we do things weird. [05:03] can anyone please suggest me a good softphone application for kubuntu? [05:03] Doing that would mean having to rebuild my kernel, twice since I'd be reinstalling the driver. [05:04] ah i see [05:23] c2tarun: skype [05:33] Got it! just had to do "eselect opengl set nvidia" [05:33] Somehow it set Xorg as the default graphical driver, didn't even load nVidia at boot ^w^' [05:38] I have a wierd issue, when I double click on downloads in firefox on like a video file it opens it in vlc but it also opens a dolphin window, is there any way I can get it to stop opening the dolphin window? [05:39] cosmo18: try a single click only ... [05:40] cosmo18: also, edit your prefs to ask you what to do with a file instead. [05:40] it does nothing if I single click and right click and open file causes both programs to be opened === oxyd is now known as Guest68904 [06:28] bigbrovar: ping [06:29] c2tarun: hi, just in time [06:29] was just about to shut down [06:29] bigbrovar: oh.... [06:29] you remebered that you helped me with my wifi card? [06:29] c2tarun: were u able to solve ur wifi card [06:29] sure I do [06:30] bigbrovar: my system got extremely slow and I had to reinstall :( [06:30] and did the performance improve after a reinstall? [06:30] bigbrovar: my wifi card was working fine till now but suddently my network manager again stopped detecting wifi connections :( [06:30] bigbrovar: yup performance improved after reinstall. [06:32] c2tarun: thats the network manager plasmoid right? just to rule it out: are u sure the wireless section of the network manager is enabled? its just a check button [06:32] bigbrovar: yup its enabled [06:34] c2tarun: some people were reporting issues with the network manager plasmoid. on 10.10 I had issues with it too and had to result to using the gnome frontend to network manager which worked pretty fine. How long as this been. and have u tried connection to the wireless manually. ? [06:34] like the way u would connect to a hidden wireless access point [06:35] bigbrovar: actually right now I am on wired connection so I am not getting hidden wireless access point option there. [06:35] and what do you mean by gnome frontend to network manager? [06:36] c2tarun: the gnome network manager applet. its the network manager used in ubuntu and xubuntu. [06:37] bigbrovar: earlier when I was using ubuntu I never faced this problem, I think gnome n/w manager applet may work for me. How can I install it? [06:37] c2tarun: sure u can always try it out, and if things gets jammed u can always revert. [06:38] bigbrovar: how can I switch to gnome network manager applet? [06:39] c2tarun: frist u have to remove the network manager plasmoid sudo apt-get remove plasma-widget-networkmanagement [06:39] bigbrovar: well are you sure, because that may disconnect me from internet. :( [06:39] Not trying to interrupt, but I've had the same issue. Oddly, if you tell it to connect twice (While it's still trying to connect, connect again anyway exactly as you did before), it connects for me. Not sure if this is acceptable to you, but it worked for me. [06:41] c2tarun: nope its wont as long u have a wired connection [06:41] Keshl: I tried to connect several times but stil not able to connect :( [06:41] and its set to dhcp [06:41] And, to connect manually with no GUI manager, just connect a wire and type "dhclient". Might have to do it as root. [06:41] Keshl: he can't even see the wireless connection [06:41] *connect a wire, open a shell and type.. [06:42] bigbrovar: Oh, didn't see that, sorry. [06:42] bigbrovar: what after removing plasma-widget-networkmanager. [06:42] Keshl: no prob :) thanks for trying to help [06:42] c2tarun: yeah if u happen to disconnect dhclient as Keshl suggested would get u back [06:42] bigbrovar: what if I first install gnome's n/w manager and then remove mine? [06:43] sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install network-manager-gnome [06:43] bigbrovar: that's good :) [06:43] c2tarun: that would install the gnome network manager without the unnecessary dependencies and stuff [06:44] once installed [06:44] u then go to systemsettings and under startup and shut down, go to the autostart section [06:45] c2tarun: select add program and add nm-applet [06:46] Keshl: which version of kubuntu are u on? [06:47] bigbrovar: I am going to reboot now. [06:48] bigbrovar: should I? [06:48] c2tarun: good luck and remember if i does not work for u. use dhclient to connect in case u dont have a connection on boot [06:48] bigbrovar: sure :) thanks [06:50] bigbrovar: None, I use Sabayon. [06:50] bigbrovar: But a friend of mine had an issue with Kubuntu so I had to ask for help here before. [06:51] Keshl: wow and how is that going? been telling myself I should try a gentoo based distro [06:51] bigbrovar: Don't try it if you're not willing to fix problems nobody else has. [06:51] bigbrovar: You *cannot* Google your way outta situations like you can on Debian. Gentoo pakcs a bigger punch, but it's like C and C++. [06:51] *packs [06:51] Keshl: lol coming from u I will take that to heart :) [06:52] bigbrovar: With C, you shoot yourself in the foot with a handgun. With C++, you nuke your foot. [06:52] Keshl: yeah so I heard [06:52] lol [06:52] bigbrovar: its working like a charm :) thanks a lot [06:52] Keshl: what version of kde are u running there? [06:52] bigbrovar: And with Java, by the time you import hand.gun.with and object.trigger*so, you just forget what you wanted to do anyway, like windows.. [06:52] bigbrovar: 4.6.2. [06:53] c2tarun_: u are welcome :) .. so the gnome network manager is working fine no problem? like u are able to detect wireless and connect easily? [06:53] Keshl: lol [06:54] bigbrovar: yup :) [06:54] Keshl: I was just talking to a friend the other day about the need for kde apps to have systemwide smooth scrolling [06:54] bigbrovar: I'm not sure what that is, mind explaining, owo? [06:55] Keshl: scolling especially in systemsettings and dolphin can be a pita [06:55] bigbrovar: Works fine for me o.O [06:56] Keshl: scrolling presenting is very jumpy in many kde apps, esp with system settings it seems to scroll 2 pages at a time. [06:56] bigbrovar: Oh, you mean how it just goes, it doens't like, have a scrolling animation of things going by? [06:58] Keshl: not so much the animation. but the usability it brings [06:59] bigbrovar: No idea what you mean then. I only notice the animation. [06:59] Keshl: this bug report explains it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76082 [06:59] KDE bug 76082 in general "smooth scrolling in all apps" [Wishlist,New] [07:00] Keshl: some kde apps like kmail and kopete have it implemented hence scrolling there is less painful [07:00] Keshl: and plasma apps too have it by default [07:01] bigbrovar: Just have it scroll, not, a line at a time. When I use my mouse wheel, it scrolls 2.9 lines, not 3. [07:01] c2tarun_: u back? [07:02] Keshl: is there a way to set the scroll setting for kde? systemwide [07:02] bigbrovar: yup [07:03] bigbrovar: No idea, but I figure since you're on Linux, it shoudln't be too difficult to change programs and recompile them to scroll 2.9 rather than 3 Keshl: I actually found something in the input section of systemsettings [07:04] c2tarun_: u got disconnected so I was scared we celebrated too early :p [07:04] bigbrovar: actually we celebrated after reboot :) [07:06] c2tarun_: btw the kde frontend of network manager is still under very heavy development and as not had a stable release afaict . what distros ship with are development snapshots. unless the gnome network manager which is very stable and packs more features like support for bluetooth tethering and better mobile broadband card support [07:06] c2tarun_: so u are better off with it anyway :) [07:07] c2tarun_: and u might wanna blog about that too :) linking me to ur blog [07:07] bigbrovar: sure :) I'll do that [07:08] bigbrovar: also kde n/w manager is not detecting any dsl connection, but gnome's detected ;) [07:08] c2tarun_: I meant give me ur blog link too (not linking me to ur blog reading that again didnt come out as I wanted ) [07:09] c2tarun_: no surprises there. In fact am anxious looking for a reason to switch to the gnm but so far the network manager plasmoid as not given one :) [07:10] oh... wait :) I'll give you link, but still I didnt blogged about it [07:10] c2tarun_: its ok just generally. I would add it to my rss and add it to my blogroll [07:11] bigbrovar: http://www.tricksfind.in/ [07:11] c2tarun_: take it u are from india? [07:11] bigbrovar: yup :) [07:13] c2tarun_: cool! I have couple of friends from there :) well maybe more than a couple [07:13] bigbrovar: thats great :) [07:13] anyway heading to work now guess we catch later. [07:14] Keshl: was nice talking to u. cheers [07:14] Bais, owo [07:46] oh lord, I was trying to remove the vlc and phonon packages, to force Amarok to use the stuff I've built from git [07:46] now muon is removing all of KDE [07:46] and I don't know how to stop it [07:47] I can't even take a snapshot of the error screen I'm seeing, because I guess ksnapshot is gone [07:47] :( [07:48] it's asking whether or not to stop the kdm daemon [07:48] I have no clue about which is worse [07:51] *Lord <.< Sorry, I get this really sick feeling if I don't at least do that considering everything else I do online. Anyway, I'm not sure how to help you, but I think you can still take a screenshot if you press the Print Screen button and paste into an image editing program. [07:52] I'll try that, thanks [07:55] do you have to use another key with that? [07:56] it seems to do nothign === bauBam is now known as faLUCE [07:59] akonadi no longer wants to start on my KDE session. when I open kontact I get a dialog with error messages, akonadi being unable to lock ibdata1 or something. claiming another version is running. when I run akonadictl status no servers are running, when I run akonadictl start I get error that dbus already something registered ... [08:14] So I'm currently installing Kubuntu 11.04 and it stopped at "Installing system 74%" with CPU1 and CPU2 both at 100% use. Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot or continue? === mirco__ is now known as mirco [08:16] knotify4 and ubiquity are the processes using all the power, but I don't see no notification window anywhere === yofel_ is now known as yofel [08:18] Okay never mind. I killed knotify4 and the install process continued. kthxbye [08:28] keshl, once it stopped, I asked for a full upgrade, and it's doing that [08:28] so all is not lost [08:29] Sorry for afkness. [08:29] And good, maybe that'll help. [08:29] Also, when you hit print screen, nothing will appear to happen. Just paste anyway. === himcesjf_ is now known as himcesjf [08:37] can any body help me? [08:37] !ask | renz [08:37] renz: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [08:38] about on how to install [08:38] !ask [08:38] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [08:56] Hi [08:57] hi [09:10] hi [09:10] can anyone help me figure out why my wireless doesn't work anymore since yesterday? [09:10] i am on maverick [09:11] the enabled wireless option in the plasmoid is greyed out [09:11] i tried booting into the previous kernel but that didn't seem to change anything [09:11] the hardware switch is set to enabled [09:12] * Nightrose looks at apachelogger [09:14] Nightrose: I believe there was a bug once where nm's software switch was broken [09:14] particularly after a suspend or hibernate it would not let itself turn on again [09:14] something like that [09:15] apachelogger: hmmmm ok - any way to fix it? [09:15] and i don't think i did a suspend or hibernate in well ages [09:18] Nightrose: there is a file somewhere [09:18] I have no idea where or what or when though [09:18] probably in /var [09:19] Nightrose: /var/lib/NetworkManager/ possibly [09:19] ok [09:19] thx [09:19] let's see if that gets me anywhere [09:20] apachelogger: i have two .state files in there [09:20] can i just erase them? [09:20] and reboot [09:24] Nightrose: likely yes [09:24] Nightrose: though [09:25] Nightrose: moving them is certainly saver ;) [09:25] otherwise you might end up with no connection whatsoever [09:25] -.- [09:29] apachelogger: nope :( [09:29] same [09:29] Nightrose: no clue then, sorry ... maybe try #ubuntu [09:30] that said [09:30] Nightrose: maybe install network-manager-gnome, start nm-applet and see if that can turn on wifi again [09:30] knm is rubbish at times [09:30] k [09:33] apachelogger: says it is already running... [09:34] yeah [09:34] you need to nuke knm [09:34] and possibly also stop the kded module [09:34] k [09:39] Hi guys. at work this morning after setting up a network printer via ipp. everything worked fine. But when I decided to setup another printer I get this error dialog box http://i.imgur.com/XYyub.png and when try starting it from terminal I get this http://pastebin.com/mqb8aaHF [09:39] apachelogger: ok i seem to be too dump to kill it :( [09:39] Nightrose: delete network-manager-kde and login again [09:39] now I just cant fingure out a way to use the printer AT WORK :s [09:40] I tried rebooting but that didnt help [09:43] apachelogger: package not installed so not removed [09:43] -.- [09:43] wth is going on [09:43] so it has some other name [09:43] "Network Management disabled" KDE? [09:44] Nightrose: dpkg -l *network* [09:44] If so ..Check ifconfig /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state -> see if disabled -> change fasle to true (kdesudo kate /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state) else remove .state file restart knetworkmanager -> kqui knetworkmanage && sleep 1 && knetworkmanager (else sudo restart network-manager) [09:44] * bigbrovar for the first time in 4 years. I am seriously considering running windows for work. so tired of the circle of irc/ bug report/ walk around and ... sigh [09:47] the trick is not to use python software === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [09:48] bigbrovar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PrintingCupsWebInterface [09:50] himcesjf: when i set it to true there it gets set back to false [09:50] Nightrose: Do you get this error - "Network Management disabled" KDE? [09:51] * apachelogger thinks the hardware switch is not on then :P [09:51] himcesjf: where would i get that? [09:51] apachelogger: it is and the wifi light is on [09:51] ok [09:53] apachelogger: if thats the case it should be added to the release note!! so I dont have to waste my morning at work trying to figure out why a printer config that worked some minutes ago suddenly stopped working. if its buggy it should not be included imho. I read that lots of bugs were fixed on the printer config gui. its messed up when a bright mood is killed off by a bad software experience. [09:55] bigbrovar: it is not broken per se, it has a bug, something completely natural for software [09:56] Nightrose: What does say? [09:56] * apachelogger notes that the networkmanager in 10.10 is a plasmoid [09:56] maverick [09:57] isn't that what I said? [09:57] himcesjf: i don't have kqui or knetworkmanager [09:58] Nightrose: Sorry, my bad [09:58] Hold on [09:58] s/kqui/kquitapp [09:59] still don't have knetworkmanager ;-) [10:00] apachelogger: link to the bug report? [10:00] Nightrose: sudo restart network-manager? [10:01] himcesjf: "network-manager start/running, process 1946" [10:03] bigbrovar: you'll need to report one so that I can give you the link ;) [10:04] Nightrose: check ksystemlog [10:04] k [10:04] Changing and removing that .state file doesn't help either? [10:04] no [10:06] apachelogger: That would make the upteen bug report am making. I still have to report the one about X randomly crashing for reasons I can reproduce. then this one for printing .. am just so frustrated atm .. sitting at work just staying at the screen wondering what to do. trying to calm down the boiling point. [10:07] I have to put in soo much to get things to work to this point. filing bugs and documenting along the way. [10:07] I always grab a cup o coffee in such situations :) [10:07] Do you see wlan0 and its HWaddr in ifconfig, Nightrose? [10:07] bigbrovar: you frustration is understandible [10:08] himcesjf: no [10:08] only eth0 and lo [10:09] but it is in iwconfig [10:09] Nightrose: Usually changing the state of NetworkingEnabled to true solves the problem. Hold on [10:09] ohk [10:09] apachelogger: there is this report I filed concerning the menubar plasmoid. I even tried finding the maintainer to report it to him. never got a reply back never even got any activity for the bug bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-menubar/+bug/701527 and the issue still exit in 11.04 [10:09] apachelogger: anyway talking to u helps .. :) [10:09] at least I can smile again :) [10:10] exist* === zz_eagles0513875 is now known as eagles0513875 [10:12] Do you see such options in .state file NetworkingEnabled=true WirelessEnabled=true WWANEnabled=true or only NetworkingEnabled=true ? [10:12] Nightrose: ^ [10:13] himcesjf: networkingenabled = true and wirelessenabled = false and wwanenabled = true [10:14] And changing the wirelessenabled = false state reverts back to false? [10:14] it did previously yes [10:14] Confused now [10:15] Wondering why delteing the state file and relogin not helping [10:15] apachelogger: what am i looking for in ksystemlog? [10:15] i'm not seeing anything helpful so far [10:16] look through all the logs and filter for net [10:16] or [10:16] wlan maybe [10:16] (hal could also spit out something) [10:17] wlan and hal, I suppose [10:17] Nightrose: btw, after removing the state files you will need to restart network-manager rather than reboot [10:17] or actually best would be to stop nm, then remove the state files and then start it again [10:18] apachelogger: set's it back to false in the state file [10:18] apachelogger: That is what I asked for :) [10:19] kk [10:21]