[00:24] <poolie> hey
[00:25] <poolie> is there any way to get usage statistics or http access logs for a ppa?
[00:26] <lifeless> there is an early stage api
[00:26] <lifeless> fta has some scripts that generate reports from it
[00:30] <poolie> hi there
[00:30] <poolie> thanks
[05:40] <eternicode> where's the option to activate a ppa?  I've scoured my profile page and can't seem to find it...
[05:44] <wgrant> eternicode: https://launchpad.net/people/+me, "Create a new PPA"
[05:44] <lifeless> ttps://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[05:45] <eternicode> um... ok... maybe that's the wrong question...
[05:45] <eternicode> I already have two ppas setup, but neither "exist" under http://ppa.launchpad.net/eternicode/
[05:45] <wgrant> eternicode: They'll exist there once you upload a package.
[05:47] <eternicode> I've done that, as well.  The particular ppa I'm looking for has several version of a package built.  Is there a delay or something between successful builds and the ppa springing into existence?
[05:47] <eternicode> *versions
[05:47] <wgrant> It can take up to 10 minutes.
[05:47] <wgrant> But normally only a couple of minutes.
[05:47] <eternicode> it's been a couple hours since the first successful build :/
[05:48] <wgrant> Let's see.
[05:48] <wgrant> Indeed. Something is wrong.
[05:48] <wgrant> Let me see.
[05:49] <eternicode> eternicode/rtorrent-0.8.7
[05:51] <eternicode> also, this ppa is one that I previously "deleted", then "undeleted"
[05:51] <wgrant> Ahh.
[05:53] <eternicode> ...
[05:55] <eternicode> I assume that affects things somehow, and I'll have to start over from scratch with a differently-named repo because the server software happens to be broken in this one little corner case?
[05:55] <lifeless> we're checking for any production issues
[05:55] <StevenK> eternicode: No, we're still investigating, sorry.
[05:55] <lifeless> I thought that ppa deletes were permanent
[05:56] <lifeless> how did you undelete it?
[05:56] <wgrant> You can unfortunately reenable it and turn on publishing, and it all just about works.
[05:57] <eternicode> I went to /+edit on the repo, and checked the "enabled" box
[05:58] <eternicode> sorry for the bit of attitude there.  I'm used to sub-minute responses :)
[05:58] <eternicode> oh, wait... there's a "publish" box, too.  *checks it and saves"
[05:59] <StevenK> That might be it, you know
[05:59] <StevenK> Reanimation of dead PPAs is a black art
[05:59] <wgrant> Ahh.
[05:59] <wgrant> There is a warning about that on the PPA page...
[05:59] <eternicode> hehe
[05:59] <wgrant> But I guess that's suppressed when the archive is deleted.
[05:59] <eternicode> no effect so far, I'll give it a few minutes.
[06:00] <wgrant> It should be running in a few seconds.
[06:01] <wgrant> 2011-05-03 05:01:00 INFO    Processing http://ppa.launchpad.net/eternicode/rtorrent-0.8.7/ubuntu
[06:01] <eternicode> there it is, yay.
[06:01] <eternicode> thanks for jogging my brains :)
[09:51] <soren> Any idea why the build queues are so incredibly long right now? I was suspecting an archive rebuild, but none of the active builds I see on https://launchpad.net/builders/ right now look like archive rebuild builds.
[09:53] <maxb> soren: Look at the number of PPA builders - there's only 6 per arch.
[09:53] <maxb> The rest have all been stolen for natty release duties
[09:55] <soren> maxb: Oh, ok. I guess I've never really thought much about how many there are under normal circumstances, so didn't notice that the number was lower than normal.
[09:55] <soren> maxb: Thanks!
[09:56] <wgrant> There's normally about 20 of each.
[11:19] <RichiH> is there any way to change my launchpad id other than creating a new account? it was set to richih+launchpad based on the email i used automagically which kinda sucks as a name
[11:20] <RichiH> s/kinda //
[11:27] <wgrant> RichiH: https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit
[11:27] <wgrant> Second field on there.
[11:40] <RichiH> wgrant: cool, thanks!
[11:40] <RichiH> hah, seems i have had that nick since 2006...
[11:41] <RichiH> ...but no idea what email address i might have used, back then
[11:41] <wgrant> Let me see.
[11:41] <wgrant> @freenode.net
[11:41] <RichiH> wgrant: RichiH
[11:41] <RichiH> oh
[11:41] <RichiH> weird choice
[11:41] <RichiH> but thanks
[11:42] <wgrant> RichiH: You can merge your new account into your old one. Just log in with the old address, and visit https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[11:42] <RichiH> wgrant: purrfect, thanks
[13:03] <Rhonda> I think there is issues with launchpad <-> debbugs connection, is that known?
[13:03] <Rhonda> bug #511912 shows the debbugs bug as not found and New, where it is already closed.
[13:04] <Rhonda> I doubt this is a single case.
[13:05] <henninge> Rhonda: I am not aware of any current problems here. Maybe gmb knows more about this?
[13:10] <wgrant> Rhonda: It may be relevant that the bug is archived.
[13:11] <jdobrien> is it possible to rename an LP project so that it's path changes?
[13:11] <Rhonda> wgrant: Right, but that would mean tons of old buglinks would get reopened over times as bugs get archived. That sounds like a horror.
[13:12] <wgrant> jdobrien: Ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion and an admin can do it for you.
[13:12] <jdobrien> wgrant, thanks
[13:12] <wgrant> Rhonda: It wasn't reopened. It was just never closed.
[13:13] <jdobrien> wgrant, just give them the name and they'll change it for me?
[13:13] <wgrant> jdobrien: Yes.
[13:14] <wgrant> Rhonda: When was it closed?
[13:14] <wgrant> Rhonda: There were debbugs sync problems early last year.
[13:15] <wgrant> jdobrien: Done.
[13:16] <jdobrien> wgrant, wow, thanks
[13:20] <wgrant> jdobrien: I have sufficient privileges, but needed a question to confirm you were actually you.
[13:21] <jdobrien> wgrant, good point
[13:26] <Rhonda> wgrant: it claims the bug doesn't even exist. About when it was closed, just follow the link, but let me dig it up for you
[13:26]  * Rhonda . o O ( if only bugs would react faster … )
[13:26] <Rhonda> wgrant: 11th of february, archived 12th of march
[13:26] <Rhonda> This year
[13:27] <wgrant> Rhonda: That was last year, but yeah.
[13:28] <wgrant> I suspect it was failing for a while before it was archived. And we possibly don't sync archived bug.
[13:28] <wgrant> +s
[13:29] <Rhonda> Did I look wrong?  *checksagain*
[13:29] <Rhonda> Uhm, right, yes.
[13:38] <RichiH> hah, i found a bug
[13:38] <wgrant> RichiH: Oh?
[13:39] <RichiH> when having richih.mailinglist@gmail.com as my email address, i could add richih.mailinglist+launchpad@gmail.com . now that i have richih.mailinglist+launchpad@gmail.com set, adding richih.mailinglist@gmail.com does not work
[13:39] <RichiH> richih.mailinglist+launchpad@gmail.com is already set as your contact address.
[13:40] <wgrant> RichiH: You're clicking on the "Add" button, not the "Set as Contact Address" one?
[13:43] <RichiH> wgrant: i was pressing enter, but that should go to Add, yes
[13:43] <RichiH> i only have one address, atm
[13:44] <wgrant> I can see you only have one. Hmm.
[13:44] <RichiH> intredasting... when not pressing enter, it worked
[13:44] <wgrant> What if you actually click Add?
[13:44] <RichiH> that worked
[13:44] <wgrant> It is probably all one form :(
[13:44] <wgrant> There we go.
[13:44] <RichiH> as an aside, the email address confirmation site simply offers cancel or confirm
[13:45] <RichiH> without telling me _what_ i am deciding upon
[13:45] <wgrant> No text? :/
[13:45] <RichiH> no
[13:45] <wgrant> That's not meant to happen.
[13:45] <wgrant> Thanks for letting us know.
[13:45] <RichiH> the URL tells me etc, but no text
[13:48] <jussi> So, to repeat my question from a few days back, can anyone "sell" me the features of LP for commercial use? why should I take it? are the little perks I dont know about?
[13:49] <henninge> jussi: With a commercial subscription you get:
[13:49] <henninge> - private branches
[13:49] <henninge> - private bugs
[13:49] <henninge> - private teams
[13:50] <henninge> Launchpad is free for free software but you need to pay to host non-free software.
[13:50] <jussi> henninge: and how secure is it? i.e how possible is it that someone can break in? Are there any example companies you can give out names who are using the service? Also, how much does it cost? (I did see a figure somewhere, but I cant find it again)
[13:51] <henninge> https://launchpad.net/+tour/join-launchpad#commercial
[13:51] <henninge> jussi: it's $250 a year
[13:52] <jussi> ahh, the figure was evading my eyes :D
[13:52] <henninge> maybe bac can help you with the references you asked for.
[13:53] <jussi> yeah, some references would be great. Ive got the decisionmakers 80% convinced...
[13:53] <bac> henninge, jussi: i think mrevell is your best bet for that information today.
[13:53] <jussi> talk about passing the buck! :P :P
[13:53] <henninge> bac: right, I forgot. ;)
[13:53] <bac> jussi: sorry, i know it looks that way.
[13:53]  * jussi waits for mrevell
[13:53] <mrevell> hey jussi, how can I help?
[13:54] <jussi> bac: its no problem
[13:54] <jussi> mrevell: can i pm?
[13:54]  * mrevell reads up
[13:54] <mrevell> sure jussi
[13:56] <jussi> thanks bac and henninge
[14:10] <deryck> adeuring, aren't you supposed to be help contact now, instead of henninge?
[14:10] <adeuring> deryck: ouch...
[15:09] <deryck> adeuring, how about we switch at top of next hour since you just started your shift?
[15:10] <adeuring> deryck: sure, sounds good
[15:10] <deryck> adeuring, awesome, thanks!
[15:56] <deryck> adeuring, I'll take it now, thanks!
[15:56] <adeuring> deryck: thanks!
[18:48] <deryck> abentley, shall we switch now?  Your turn on IRC?
[19:26] <deryck> abentley, ?
[19:35] <micahg> deryck: are package/distro bug subscribers hidden by default now?
[19:35] <micahg> *supposed to be
[19:35] <abentley> deryck: sure.
[19:36] <deryck> micahg: yeah, I believe they are.  although another squad is doing that work.
[19:36] <deryck> abentley: thanks!
[19:37] <deryck> micahg: trying to recall who's on yellow squad to confirm for sure. :-)
[19:37] <micahg> deryck: well, I'd like to discuss with someone, but can't right now
[19:41] <deryck> micahg: bac or benji can confirm that and explain more if need be.
[19:42] <micahg> deryck: ok, thanks
[19:44] <benji> micahg: I think https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/772754 is pertinent
[19:50] <micahg> benji: thanks, that includes the issues I was worried about
[20:37] <cody-somerville> If I'm getting branch notifications via membership in a team subscribed to the branch... if I subscribe myself directly with different notification settings will I still get the notifications from the the former?
[20:38] <benji> cody-somerville: nope; direct subscriptions supercede structural subscriptions
[20:39] <cody-somerville> Great, thanks.
[20:44] <abentley> benji: when I was working on that code, direct subscriptions superseded team subscriptions.
[20:44] <benji> abentley: is that a correction or an amplification?
[20:45] <abentley> benji: it might be a correction.  Perhaps your experience with that code is more recent than mine.
[20:46] <benji> I'm not certain, but my recollection is that direct subscriptions supersede all non-direct subscriptions.
[20:49] <abentley> benji: Right.  I don't think being subscribed indirectly makes it a structural subscription, though.
[20:51] <benji> abentley: right, I missed that bit (and I thought he was talking about a bug target/bug not two subscriptions to the same branch)