[00:54] Daviey / james_w` https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-May/thread.html [00:55] did you know you're spamming the techboard mailing list? [01:01] popey, erk [01:01] thanks [01:01] np [01:02] not sure how to fix that right now [01:03] it's something to do with the membership of teams in LP [01:03] which is not something to try and fathom at 8pm :-) [01:03] nor at 1AM [01:04] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches [01:04] owner is the tech board [01:04] https://launchpad.net/~techboard [01:04] technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com [01:04] thats why [01:05] dunno what changed though [01:16] yeah I got an email that the news team was spamming a list as well [01:16] but we haven't sent anything today so I wasn't sure what was going on nor have I had the opportunity to look into right now [01:21] jcastro, guess who I get to meet in June - none other than jef spaleta - he's going to be at SELF this year... [01:21] just tweeted - @jspaleta OMG! I can't belive it finally I get the opportunity meet you! See you @selinuxfest! http://is.gd/T6Oo22 # [01:22] oh the tag was #bucketlist [03:05] akgraner: Poke me with the details and I can look into that (re: news team spamming) [03:07] nhandler, not sure I know all the details yet - I can forward you the email I got - it will tomorrow before I can get back to you on that..but I will :-) thanks nhandler [03:08] akgraner: That is fine. Thanks. [08:54] morning everyone [08:54] o/ [09:43] popey: the TB don't get enough spam.. :) [09:57] :) [10:00] hey kim0, hey all [10:01] dpm: howdy o/ === daker_ is now known as daker [11:47] morning all [11:54] mhall119, hi there. I hope you haven't forgotten about my summit branch? :) [13:43] salgado: not forgotten, just busy [13:50] mornin [13:56] mhall119, ok, just checking as we don't have too much time left. will you let us know if you feel you won't be able to do it, so that we can look for alternatives before it's too late? [14:07] salgado: how comfortable are you with these changes? [14:10] mhall119, thinking long term they're far from ideal, but they're the least intrusive way we had to achieve this so I'm pretty much convinced they will not introduce any regressions [14:14] salgado: I'm trying to run it with SUMMIT_LINARO=1, but the schedule page isn't showing any of the slots I had created, is this the correct behavior? [14:15] mhall119, it will omit all slots/rooms that don't have Linaro sessions [14:16] ok, so it won't be used to edit the schedule? [14:18] mhall119, yeah, we'll have to ask the track leads to use summit.u.c to do that, but I don't think it's a big deal [14:19] can they break things badly if they end up trying to edit the schedule on summit.l.o? [14:21] I don't know, but chances are they won't be able to, because it won't show slots that aren't already filled with Linaro sessions [14:22] okay, I added a meeting to a "linaro-testing" track, but it's still now showing up on the date view of the schedule, what am I missing? [14:25] mhall119, the meeting has to have 'linaro' on its name/specurl IIRC. /me checks [14:26] salgado: okay, my track is "linaro1", my meeting name is "linaro-testing" [14:26] I put it "room1" which has the "linaro1" track assigned to it [14:26] mhall119, we look for the 'linaro' string only in the spec_url [14:27] IOW, the blueprint name in LP must contain 'linaro' [14:28] salgado: I'm manually adding records to my database, not pulling from LP [14:29] mhall119, right, but you can set the 'spec_url' field to something that contains the 'linaro' string, can't you? [14:30] I mentioned that it's the blueprint name that matters just fyi, should've made that clear, sorry [14:30] okay, yeah [14:31] now I'm getting an attrubute error, something is None that shouldn't be [14:33] God I hate render.py [14:33] if throws errors when optional fields are empty :( [14:33] okay, I've got it working now [14:34] heh [14:34] salgado: approved and merged [14:34] but I'm blaming you if summit.u.c dies the week before it starts ;) [14:35] hah [14:36] and if you're not around, I'll blame popey [14:36] mhall119, thanks! don't worry, there's just no way it will die because of these changes (famous last words. ;) [14:36] lol [14:37] I'm pretty sure render.py could die even if you just changed a comment [14:37] or looked at it funny [14:37] mhall119: james_w` and I went to a bit of trouble becauxse we forgot something when we landed cjohnston's changes [14:37] or if the moon in the right position [14:37] nigelb: uh oh, what did you break? [14:38] you talking about url.py? [14:38] mhall119: nothing. we forgot the to restart mod_wsgi ;) [14:38] s/the// [14:38] thats why the instructions for updating say to restart [14:38] hehe [14:39] haha [14:39] meh [14:39] instructions. pfft. [14:39] mhall119, I guess now I should bug Daviey to roll out the changes while we all hope that venus, jupiter and the moon are aligned so that we have a chance that render.py won't break? [14:40] lol, yup [14:40] yup [14:40] dont forget mars.. we still need pad.ubuntu.com [14:41] oh, crap, then we better hurry. I think we only have a few minutes left [14:41] okay, I approved james_w`'s merge proposals too [14:41] I was supposed to do that [14:41] forgot :p [14:41] nigelb: have we gotten any update from IS about having a pad server available? [14:42] mhall119: nope. last night Daviey said no reply. [14:42] I'm still working on the patch :\ [14:42] also, david_m says the guidebook app is working now, has the schedule and the hotel floorplan [14:42] Daviey, hi there. when you have a moment, can you pull the latest summit changes onto summit.u.c? [14:44] I can confirm that guidebook is looking good [14:46] I got from elmo, "we are still trying to set it up. it should be fine" [14:56] Daviey: if you want to just let me know the steps for updating summit.u.c, I can take over that part [15:06] jcastro, thanks for the heads up, yeah, IRC timed out on me... [15:08] when registering a blueprint, I just put "ubuntu" as the project, right? [15:08] * jussi fears the jorge... :P [15:08] jcastro, did you see the email this morning about the testing session? [15:09] jcastro he made it and he's now good to go for the next session [15:09] just wanted to let you know [15:20] ok I was trying to find fagan to see if we could switch [15:20] ugh, who switched him? [15:20] that's a crap thing to do to someone [15:41] jcastro, I haven't found out yet?... [15:41] jcastro, also I need to drop offline for about an hour... [15:41] sure [15:44] jcastro: btw, if you have time, could you approve the ircc blueprint? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-o-irc-council [15:48] jussi: I don't approve, you need bacon [15:48] hehe, ok, thanks [16:02] akgraner: btw it was always scheduled at 1500 [16:02] it's never been moved [16:02] so wires crossed there [16:03] hmm guess that's my fault then...sorry about that [16:06] new open source broadcomm driver working great, but throwing a ton of kernel errors into dmesg. heh [16:14] Technoviking, I am intrigued [16:14] care to share some of the dmesg in a pastebin? [16:15] this is the bcmwrl-source driver yes? [16:15] Jfo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/776438 [16:15] Launchpad bug 776438 in linux "Kernel error when connecting to WPA/WPA2 Enterprise" [Undecided,New] [16:16] JFo: believe so, the broadcomm driver that comes in Ubuntu 11.04 OOTB [16:16] ok [16:17] Technoviking: is this on your mbp? [16:18] popey: yes [16:18] * popey points [16:18] * popey laughs [16:18] Have that! [16:18] <- gets that a lot [16:18] the wireless work, better than the STA driver, but the errors are odd [16:20] jcastro: howdy. what can you tell me about http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/plenary-o-linaro-introduction/ ? [16:21] http://summit.ubuntu.com/admin/schedule/meeting/16082/history/ [16:21] joey: that's the "everyone in linaro stay here and listen to kiko" [16:21] Technoviking, I am told that there is a patch in either proposed or pre-proposed that should address thatr [16:22] and platform takes off [16:22] Technoviking, wait... nm [16:22] one sec... [16:22] JFo: k [16:23] Technoviking, I have asked one of the driver gurus to look at it :-) [16:23] JFo: awesome, you guys rock [16:24] not me, I just know people who know people ;-) [16:24] wini wink, nudge nudge, say no more [16:24] heh [16:26] heh [16:26] for instance, I know people who have heard of people who know jcastro [16:26] that's how important I am ;-P [16:28] joey: what UDS FAQ? [16:28] JFo: :D [16:29] :) [16:29] always 6 degrees from greatness [16:29] jcastro: hmmm well shoot there is. They told me there was on and I didn't lok [16:29] look [16:30] Technoviking, here is what I just got: tgardner> JFo, alright, this is the staging driver brcm80211 in 2.6.38, not the binary blob. I'm not seeing any stable updates, but it might not hurt to have him try -preproposed [16:30] will try, that [16:31] awesome, let me know how that goes please :) [16:32] will do, saw this also http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10729117&postcount=135 [16:32] bah, no jono when I need him [16:32] mhall119, is http://paste2.org/p/1397062 the traceback you saw earlier today? [16:32] Technoviking, intricate, that is probably what is in -preproposed [16:33] I hope, anyway [16:33] jcastro: for plenary-o that are not in the plenary slots... can I just change that to Linaro-other-o so it shows up with the Linaro graphic? [16:33] joey: sure [16:33] joey: everything linaro-* belongs to you as far as I'm concerned, whatever brings your side value feel free to make it [16:34] k thanks [16:34] joey: also as far as I know, we don't have a UDS FAQ? [16:34] jcastro: hmm ok. thanks. [16:35] can you ask them what they are referring to? [16:36] if there is indeed a FAQ somewhere I'd like to know, heh [16:36] salgado: yes [16:36] jcastro: the just didn't want that cool hacking the url feature to be lost somewhere [16:36] you need a priority on the meeting records [16:36] mhall119, missing priority, right? [16:36] yup [16:42] jcastro: salgado just clarified that for me. It just needs to have "linaro" in it so I don't need to change it. [16:42] rock [16:43] JFo: install, reboot booting now [16:44] Technoviking, ok [16:45] JFo: I think that may have fixed it [16:49] awesome! [16:50] thanks jcastro. I talked with him online and stripped you and jono in the reply earlier [16:50] keep an eye on it if you don't mind and let me know if you see any odd behavior over time. :-) [16:50] Technoviking, ^^ [16:50] * JFo always forgets to put nicknaes [16:50] jcastro: jon was going nuts, he took it as this big insult :) [16:50] JFo: no error in dmesg for the last 5 minute, will keep an eye on it, but will close bug for now [16:50] sweet, glad that got you solved :) [16:50] heyya JFo [16:51] heya paultag :) [16:51] JFo: what's new? :) [16:51] Natty :-P [16:51] heh [16:51] heh :) [16:51] * JFo is having a rotten day otherwise [16:52] I'm thankful for small mercies... like Technoviking's fixed(now) wireless [16:52] JFo: oh noe! Beer-O-Clock coming earlier today? ;) [16:52] I hope so :-D [16:52] * JFo has beer in a cooling device 6 steps away.... but best not to swell on that :) [16:52] dwell* [16:52] JFo: good man :) [16:53] heh [16:53] damn it, started again [16:54] :-( [16:55] Technoviking, seriously or are you messing with me? [16:55] git+ssh://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/fluxbox.git [16:55] Oh jesus, sorry guys [16:55] wrong window [16:55] Technoviking, did you grab the pre-proposed kernel or did you grab that driver from the forum? [16:55] paultag, no worries :) [16:59] jcastro: hi again. Another item for you. Kiko wants to know if we can move that session I spoke of earlier out of the TAS, which holds only 50 and is too small, and into a plenary room? I'll assume the answer is yes but I don't know how to reflect that in Summit. Ideas? [16:59] joey: I thought that was going to be in the plenary room [17:00] joey: the plan is jono, mark, george [17:00] for a plenary [17:00] JFo: the pre-proposed kernel, need to study the forum suggestion [17:00] and then everyone in linaro stays in the plenary [17:00] and then platformers go to sessions [17:00] jcastro: that's the idea but it's showing up in TAS [17:00] Technoviking, so it is happening again? [17:00] jcastro: maybe that's just for the schedule though so everyone knows [17:01] JFo: seems less, but it still happens [17:01] it is [17:01] we can delete it up to you [17:01] Technoviking, ok [17:01] we're planning on just telling people during the keynotes "don't leave if you are linaro" [17:01] joey: also, anything about that lltng session? [17:02] jcastro: I've emailed for the kernel one. Nothing on the wayland, and the tracing tool I think is ubuntu not Linaro. Let me recheck [17:02] jcastro: yeah that's an ubuntu one as well, like wayland [17:03] so only the kernel one is mine and I've emailed paul m about it and mounir [17:03] ok [17:05] Technoviking, do you have linux-firmware 1.52 at least? [17:05] apparently that is a factor [17:05] 1.52 is the released version for natty [17:05] but something could have happened to it [17:10] jcastro: *sigh* I hate not having the expertise and having to ask questions. I feel a big bar tab piling on. Next item. I listed busy times in http://summit.ubuntu.com/admin/schedule/attendee/1840/ [17:10] jcastro: will the scheduler pick that up during the next run? [17:15] I have no idea [17:15] I've never done that [17:15] joey: oh man, you're not manually inputting his private session slots into that to see if that works are you? [17:15] haha, brave man [17:15] jcastro: that's the way I was told to do it by james_w` [17:16] oh ok, well if it works then that would be awesome [17:16] I don't know what it will do next run [17:16] if it does work, try to drag a session he's required in to that slot [17:16] and the box will be like "Hey someone is missing!" or something like that [17:16] ie. it should be obvious when it works [17:16] jcastro: yeah I see a conflict now that is not showing as a conflict. [17:16] ok [17:17] when did you add the hours? [17:17] 8 to 10 UTC or 10 to 12 Hungary time, Tues, Wed, Thurs [17:17] and on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-12/ I see him scheduled for a kernel talk at 10 [17:18] in fact I see a few conflicts during those times [17:18] on tuesday as well [17:18] you said it runs every hour? So in 40 minutes or so I should see a new schedule [17:21] yeah [17:25] JFo: sorry, was AFK, yes I do [17:27] Technoviking, ok, we hae assigned your bug to the Broadcom guy. Let's see what he says [17:32] JFo: coolness, \o/ [17:33] :) [17:43] jcastro: yo, dude, coming to OLF next september? [17:43] no I will be in Florida [17:43] gotta take a year off [17:43] jcastro: good man [17:44] greg-g: whatabout you, heading to OLF this next year> [17:44] sed s/>/?/g [17:54] paultag: as of now, if I'm around, I'll probably go [17:54] greg-g: sweet :) [17:54] yeah, you? [17:54] greg-g: I'm thinking I might, not sure if I'll be in Ohio in september atm [17:55] greg-g: but yeah :) [17:55] greg-g: we're just getting plans together [17:55] greg-g: so we were thinking of doing an ubuntu-locos (general) booth, if -mi or -ny wants to send some help (cds, man-hours) [17:57] greg-g: not that I'm asking you officially [17:57] greg-g: I'm not even contact, just bullshitting :) [17:59] paultag: yeah, that'd be great! [17:59] I'd definitely send some cds and some persons to provide hours ;) [18:01] greg-g: I'll be sure we get you guys into the loop when it crops up :) [18:02] awesome [18:10] see you all tomorrow! [18:13] Daviey, where are the etherpad links supposed to be? [18:13] salgado: compare it with summit.ubuntu.com [18:13] see the icon next to where the linaro one is? [18:13] On each session [18:14] yep, I see that, top left corner of every slot [18:14] yah [18:15] seems the linaro site is showing alt text :/ [18:15] but I see them on the linaro site [18:15] oh? [18:17] Daviey: oh hey, speaking of etherpad ... [18:17] Daviey: oh nm, you are there tomorrow [18:18] Daviey, just tried on a different browser with cold cache and it worked fine as well [18:18] also guys, Guidebook is updated [18:18] so the mobile schedule is live [18:18] ah ok thanks salgado and Daviey [18:20] jcastro: james_w` - bad news. the busy time didn't update in the schedule [18:23] hmm well I take that back [18:23] it looks like it did work [18:23] looks like it worked for those that he was marked as required but not all when marked as optional [18:24] and it doesn't show him as unavailable on those that weren't moved === daker is now known as daker_ [18:24] must be my crappy net connection salgado :) [18:24] page reload, worked fine - so yeah - sorry for the alarm! [18:25] no worries [18:25] Daviey, thanks for the help! [18:26] salgado: np! [18:27] joey, it will only complain if someone is essential when they are busy [18:27] james_w`: yeah figured that just moments ago. i.e. it's acting as designed [18:28] * Daviey shakes his fist at mhall119 [18:29] * mhall119 blames salgado [18:29] with all the learning I'm doing I hope I can do this for next UDS. I'll be trained up by then :-) [18:30] mhall119: you have an email, detailing what you broke :) [18:30] * salgado blames it on planet misalignment. it was working earlier when they were all aligned [18:30] salgado: nah, it's either mhall119's fault... or in the worst case popey's. [18:31] it must be popey's; I hear everything that happens lately is his fault, isn't it? ;) [18:31] actually I think it's james_w`'s branches [18:32] mhall119: hmm... bzr shows you as author. [18:32] it's a merge from him, I was just lazy and didn't use --author [18:33] mhall119: then i blame you... :) [18:33] which change? [18:33] james_w`: edge removal i suspect [18:33] either trackfix or removing edge [18:33] the non-edge url was valid...is the data different? [18:34] http://pb.daviey.com/ev3r/raw/ [18:34] james_w`: ^^ [18:35] mhall119: it's lpupdate, so not trackfix. [18:35] well, that looks transient to me, and I'm not sure how it could cause that [18:37] yeah, 503, maybe Launchpad was just down? [18:38] james_w`: seems it was [18:38] ran it manually and it worked [18:39] * Daviey offers his apologies for misblame. [18:39] * mhall119 hands the blame back to Daviey for next time [18:39] * Daviey passes the blame back to LP. [18:39] works for me [18:44] jcastro, is it confirmed that all the platform track leads have t-shirts? could you check with Marianna? [18:44] sure [18:59] o/ [18:59] etherpad is the craziest application I've ever worked on :\ [18:59] java and js gets coupled in a way I scream. [19:23] james_w`: man this busy time request is painful :-) [19:23] yeah [19:44] james_w`: still around? [19:44] james_w`: I'm tired of bothering jcastro with issues :-) [19:44] joey, yeah, but on vacation and packing for Budapest [19:44] james_w`: ah well then nm. [19:44] always with the problems! [19:44] jcastro, http://summit.linaro.org/admin/schedule/meeting/16197/ is set for 2 slots but it's only occupying 1 slot on the schedule [19:44] joey: what can I help you with? [19:45] ok so I don't even have access to that [19:45] jcastro: the end goal is to have that session go for 2 time periods [19:45] it's configured under Scheduling details in that url [19:45] but the scheduler doesn't seem to respect it [19:46] what's the process/task list I should follow to make that display the way they want it to? [19:49] joey, try dragging it somewhere else and back again in the schedule [19:50] I hate all this cowboying stuff on a production system. [19:50] of course, I'm from Colorado, I should be used to it :-) [19:50] joey: one of our plans for this next session is to fix all that stuff and do it the right way... [19:51] joey: james_w` we are planning a summit session at uds.. would be great if you could attend [19:52] james_w`: that worked! [19:53] cjohnston: yeah and he should share with you my ever growing list of enhancement requests :-) [19:54] You know where the file a bug button is and where the bzr commit/bzr push lines are :-P [19:54] nigelb: i thought i had a file with the U1 syncdaemon Dbus API ...i am still looking. I will let you know if i find it [19:55] cjohnston: :-) https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Infrastructure/Specs/SummitEnhancements [19:59] joey: please update to reflect https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/664879 [19:59] Launchpad bug 664879 in summit ""previous day" and "next day" links on schedule would be nice" [Undecided,Confirmed] [20:00] joey: ref #10, you mean when you hover over the session you see your name? [20:04] I'd like to let James's team sort through them since Linaro would be funding for them [20:05] One already has a bug filed that isnt referenced, the other I'm trying to get clarification [20:07] cjohnston: btw, in case it's not clear, I'm *very* happy you're helping! [20:07] :-) [20:07] If #10 is saying that I think it is, your name probably has a green check next to it because your the approver [20:08] cjohnston: yeah [20:09] it might be the way I scheduled it [20:10] could you give me an example? [20:12] cjohnston: actually, it seems not to be happening any more so I'll remove it [20:12] Ok.. I'm looking at the blueprints.. all but one you scheduled.. about 2/3's you subscribed and marked yourself essential.. the others you just subscribed... [20:13] joey: Daviey: jcastro: is the linaro summit going to be sharing the same crew as the ubuntu summit? [20:14] yes [20:14] ok [20:14] yes [20:14] although jcastro hasn't made me a crew member yet ;-) [20:14] * joey laughs. [20:14] that can be done joey :-P [20:14] joey: we're perma-crew [20:18] I should probably plan for my open week session tomorrow [20:19] joey: all this schedule stuff you're doing now? I used to have to do that in the 5 minutes inbetween sessions [20:20] mhall119: or you could wait until an hour before? [20:20] jcastro: :-) [20:22] Pendulum: you mean like the last one I did>? [20:22] mhall119: sure :) [20:23] heh, I want to at least make sure that the commands I'll be telling people to use actually work [20:24] good point :P [20:26] cjohnston: hey [20:26] try guidebook [20:26] it's totally awesome and up to date now [20:26] jcastro: hey [20:26] I looked at it earlier :-) [20:27] guidebook and summit look better than the Google IO app and web schedule. [20:29] heh [20:29] someone have time to blog it? [20:29] so we can tell people about it? [20:30] jcastro: I'm working on a blog for all the summit updates [20:30] since there is quite a bit... hoping that we do get the pad [20:38] hey do QR codes for the app install [20:38] and then I'll link to your post in my final scheduling update to -devel === jono_ is now known as jono [20:54] AlanBell: hey! [20:54] https://launchpad.net/unity-music-lens [20:58] Anyone good with taking screenshots and then drawing on them? [20:58] yes [20:58] use Shutter [20:58] it's amazing for that [21:28] o/ jcastro [21:42] * popey pokes Technoviking and pleia2 [21:42] * pleia2 waves [21:46] expecting flak tonight [21:47] popey: what did you shut down now? [21:47] I'm happy to stand firm in the decision, we've gotten overwhelming "yay shut down" from the wider community [21:47] :) [21:47] I'm okay with people giving feedback [21:48] they can say we "ignore the community" all we want, but we got lots of complaints privately [21:48] s/we want/they want [21:48] Technoviking said he'd chair [21:48] is this more flak about sounder? [21:49] mhall119: yeah, one of the sounder participants added it to the agenda [21:49] tell them if they keep complaining, popey will shut down all of freenode [21:49] hi [21:49] :o [21:51] never ran MootBot though [21:51] http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/5168823248/mobile-support-for-uds [21:51] \o/ [21:51] Technoviking: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot [21:51] jono: I can do a call whenevs [21:52] joey: you got Andy's mail about moving that session? [21:52] jcastro, you need a call? [21:53] yeah, it's not emergency but it's not "can wait until UDS" either [21:53] jcastro, ok one sec [21:53] Technoviking: do you need me to chair? [21:54] or i can tell you the commands in pm as you need them :) [21:54] jcastro, skype [21:54] just tried calling you [21:54] if you want [21:54] * popey shrugs [21:54] looks easy enough [21:55] pleia2: you want to do Governance Boards (staffing, feedback/reports) [21:56] I forget why I added that [21:56] heh [21:56] ah, I think I was adding from a list of dholbach's stuff [21:56] we can defer that to UDS [21:57] cool [21:57] just sounder, yay? [21:57] __ __ [21:57] \ \ / /_ _ _ _ [21:57] \ V / _` | | | | [21:57] | | (_| | |_| | [21:57] |_|\__,_|\__, | [21:57] |___/ [22:00] yay [22:12] jcastro: got it. === salgado is now known as salgado-afk