| Captainkrtek | hey jbicha | 01:05 |
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| jbicha | hi, how are things | 02:17 |
| j1mc | hi jbicha | 02:27 |
| Captainkrtek | good | 02:51 |
| Captainkrtek | you? | 02:51 |
| j1mc | hey all - would appreciate input on this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-ubuntu-docs-strategy | 02:53 |
| j1mc | i'm putting together another one for short-term goals, and will provide that link shortly. | 02:53 |
| Captainkrtek | ill take a look j1mc | 02:56 |
| j1mc | thanks, Captainkrtek | 02:56 |
| Captainkrtek | I have a little bit of feedback in terms of on-disk v. online | 02:58 |
| j1mc | sure | 02:58 |
| Captainkrtek | I think all of it (or most) should be on disk | 02:58 |
| Captainkrtek | in regards to all things UI, and stuff like connecting to the internet | 02:58 |
| Captainkrtek | but for other documentation involving online technology it should be online | 02:59 |
| Captainkrtek | to save space and only include necessary files, and maybe offer on installation levels of documentation you want included | 02:59 |
| Captainkrtek | just a few ideas | 02:59 |
| j1mc | thanks, Captainkrtek | 02:59 |
| Captainkrtek | sure :) | 02:59 |
| Captainkrtek | also think the team needs more meetings | 03:00 |
| j1mc | yeah | 03:00 |
| Captainkrtek | but i've only been here a week ;) | 03:00 |
| j1mc | :) | 03:00 |
| Captainkrtek | do we have a sort of calendar? | 03:00 |
| Captainkrtek | with deadlines (aside from release deadlines) | 03:01 |
| j1mc | the only thing we have is something that identifies the string freeze deadline. | 03:02 |
| Captainkrtek | gotcha | 03:02 |
| j1mc | but we should have one once we set our goals for the release. | 03:03 |
| Captainkrtek | maybe do some more time management to have it all planned out along the way | 03:03 |
| Captainkrtek | IE: get all Unity docs done by x/y/yy | 03:03 |
| Captainkrtek | and so on | 03:03 |
| Captainkrtek | oh also, when I get done with some other work I'm going to get to work on some more ubuntu docs, anything specific you need done or where I should focus my time? | 03:05 |
| j1mc | hmmm... i suppose that now that we're in a soft string freeze... | 03:07 |
| j1mc | it would be good to look ahead a bit | 03:07 |
| Captainkrtek | okay | 03:07 |
| Captainkrtek | is a oneiric branch up yet? | 03:08 |
| j1mc | maybe review the oneiric goal wiki page and start thinking about what areas may interest you. | 03:08 |
| Captainkrtek | okay :) | 03:08 |
| j1mc | there is a link to it from the blueprint | 03:08 |
| Captainkrtek | also have we decided on what to do with the server area? | 03:08 |
| Captainkrtek | err server docs | 03:08 |
| j1mc | yes, it looks like they'll be in their own branch | 03:09 |
| Captainkrtek | cool | 03:09 |
| Captainkrtek | do we have a team for them already | 03:09 |
| j1mc | i think it's mostly one person | 03:10 |
| Captainkrtek | hmm might be interested in joining them | 03:11 |
| Captainkrtek | I know a little bit about Ubuntu Server | 03:11 |
| j1mc | sounds good. it can be hard to find your niche at first, so . . . it's ok to try a couple of different areas. | 03:14 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah | 03:14 |
| Captainkrtek | I like technical writing | 03:14 |
| Captainkrtek | I'm a writer for a site that gets a few million hits a month, that plus helping people is what I do :) | 03:14 |
| j1mc | what's the name of the site? | 03:14 |
| Captainkrtek | xda-developers.com | 03:14 |
| Captainkrtek | site gets roughly 10,000 new members a day | 03:15 |
| j1mc | neat | 03:15 |
| Captainkrtek | Im also site staff their (Senior Moderator) | 03:15 |
| Captainkrtek | if you need your phone rooted :) | 03:15 |
| Captainkrtek | let me know | 03:15 |
| j1mc | :) | 03:15 |
| Captainkrtek | you use android? | 03:15 |
| j1mc | yes, but just have a tmobile mytouch. it's almost two years old, and is slow. | 03:16 |
| j1mc | i need to work on that other blueprint, but i'll be back later. | 03:16 |
| Captainkrtek | put CyanogenMod on it | 03:16 |
| Captainkrtek | k :) | 03:16 |
| Captainkrtek | mdke, is work needed on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/oneiric-testing | 03:22 |
| jbicha | Captainkrtek: also, GNOME upstream can use a bunch of help | 03:26 |
| Captainkrtek | jbicha, where is that located | 03:26 |
| jbicha | there's quite a few apps that don't have Mallard help yet, and we use almost all of their stuff so it definitely still helps Ubuntu | 03:26 |
| Captainkrtek | I'd be glad to help :-) just point me in the direction | 03:27 |
| jbicha | httpshttp://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-user-docs is their User Guide | 03:27 |
| jbicha | http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-user-docs | 03:27 |
| Captainkrtek | thanks | 03:27 |
| Captainkrtek | ahh git | 03:27 |
| Captainkrtek | I actually prefer bzr over git | 03:27 |
| jbicha | but help for individual programs is spread ouut | 03:27 |
| jbicha | I thought you said you preferred git? | 03:28 |
| Captainkrtek | meh | 03:28 |
| Captainkrtek | after using bzr I like bzr better I think | 03:28 |
| jbicha | and if you have questions, see #docs on irc.gnome.org | 03:28 |
| Captainkrtek | okay great | 03:28 |
| Captainkrtek | is it integrated into launchpad? | 03:28 |
| jbicha | no, not really, not for this | 03:29 |
| Captainkrtek | oh nevermind, found em | 03:29 |
| Captainkrtek | https://launchpad.net/gnome-user-docs | 03:29 |
| Captainkrtek | ? | 03:29 |
| jbicha | I think it would be best to work in git rather than through a layer of abstraction | 03:29 |
| j1mc | Captainkrtek: it is a different irc network, but you can join the #docs channel on irc.gnome.org | 03:29 |
| Captainkrtek | okay | 03:30 |
| j1mc | Captainkrtek: also: http://live.gnome.org/DocumentationProject | 03:30 |
| j1mc | look for apps that need user help | 03:30 |
| j1mc | rather, updated user help | 03:31 |
| jbicha | http://live.gnome.org/Git/Developers | 03:31 |
| Captainkrtek | thanks :) | 03:31 |
| jbicha | a Fedora 15 VM can help you see which Gnome 3 apps have the older help too | 03:31 |
| Captainkrtek | cool | 03:32 |
| Captainkrtek | ill set one up shortly | 03:32 |
| Captainkrtek | so we are good for now though in ubuntu-docs? | 03:32 |
| jbicha | you might be able to clean up net-wireless-troubleshooting-device-drivers | 03:33 |
| Captainkrtek | sure | 03:33 |
| jbicha | it's the final page in the wireless troubleshooting guide | 03:33 |
| Captainkrtek | wasn't that a clone of another file or something like that? | 03:34 |
| jbicha | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide/Drivers | 03:34 |
| jbicha | I believe that's what you should be using to fill in that page | 03:34 |
| Captainkrtek | okay | 03:34 |
| Captainkrtek | so just format it for mallard | 03:34 |
| jbicha | basically and make it work nice, j1mc ported the rest of the guide for the docs I believe | 03:35 |
| Captainkrtek | cool | 03:35 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah I'll include links and such | 03:35 |
| jbicha | and then you could use that as your first patch to gnome if you like | 03:37 |
| Captainkrtek | :) | 03:38 |
| Captainkrtek | my launchpad only shows work in Gnome-Documentation | 03:38 |
| Captainkrtek | https://launchpad.net/~steven.richards | 03:38 |
| j1mc | Captainkrtek: that's because we've been doing the ubuntu docs under the gnome-user-docs branch | 03:48 |
| j1mc | that will change for the next release when we move the docs over to ubuntu-docs | 03:48 |
| Captainkrtek | okay gotcha | 03:50 |
| Captainkrtek | was a bit confused | 03:50 |
| Captainkrtek | wow 40 karma in a few days! | 03:51 |
| Captainkrtek | jbicha, almost done porting the last wireless guide | 04:44 |
| Captainkrtek | hey jbicha quick question | 05:18 |
| Captainkrtek | writing up the doc, and ran into a little bump, im trying to add a little code block, but the block has <tags> in it | 05:18 |
| Captainkrtek | and mallard thinks they are actual tags | 05:19 |
| jbicha | what do you mean tags? why are you using them? | 05:19 |
| Captainkrtek | trying to do | 05:20 |
| Captainkrtek | <p><code> blacklist <drivername> </code></p> | 05:20 |
| Captainkrtek | but <drivername> is the actual text | 05:21 |
| jbicha | you can't use < > in xml, you have to substitute it, let me look up the code | 05:21 |
| Captainkrtek | thanks | 05:21 |
| Captainkrtek | I looked in mallard | 05:21 |
| Captainkrtek | couldn't find much | 05:22 |
| jbicha | < | 05:26 |
| jbicha | > | 05:26 |
| Captainkrtek | thanks ;) | 05:27 |
| Captainkrtek | where'd you find that? | 05:27 |
| jbicha | there's 5 special ones you have to watch out for in XML | 05:27 |
| jbicha | near the bottom of https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Character_encodings_in_HTML | 05:27 |
| Captainkrtek | thanks | 05:27 |
| Captainkrtek | bookmarked | 05:27 |
| Captainkrtek | if you're going to be around for 20~30 minutes ill have this page committed | 05:28 |
| jbicha | ok cool | 05:32 |
| jbicha | I'm tracking down a bug I found in the gnome3 packaging | 05:33 |
| Captainkrtek | fun :P | 05:33 |
| Captainkrtek | im actually almost done with this doc. eta 1 minute heh | 05:33 |
| Captainkrtek | damn this was a huge doc to port | 05:36 |
| Captainkrtek | jbicha, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~steven.richards/+junk/gnome-help/revision/1561 | 05:42 |
| Captainkrtek | Im off to make some dinner, brb ~20 minutes | 05:42 |
| Captainkrtek | jbicha, how's that bug coming? | 06:30 |
| jbicha | slow, something in GDM 3 is messing with my $PATH | 06:30 |
| Captainkrtek | that sucks | 06:30 |
| jbicha | something with Xsession | 06:30 |
| Captainkrtek | I committed the last troubleshooting doc to my repo | 06:30 |
| Captainkrtek | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~steven.richards/+junk/gnome-help/revision/1561 | 06:31 |
| jbicha | yes I saw and I'll commit by morning | 06:31 |
| Captainkrtek | okay great :) | 06:31 |
| Captainkrtek | back to tex | 06:31 |
| jbicha | if I don't figure the bug out I at least have enough info for someone else though | 06:31 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah | 06:31 |
| jbicha | it's kind of fun when I'm able to figure them out, I've fixed several gnome3 Ubuntu things | 06:32 |
| Captainkrtek | nice :) | 06:32 |
| Captainkrtek | bug hunting is fun | 06:32 |
| Captainkrtek | im editing the ubuntu manual now | 06:32 |
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| j1mc | mdke: your day job ... you're a lawyer of some sorts, aren't you? | 21:31 |
| j1mc | i know phill bull is a physics ph.d. student | 21:31 |
| j1mc | and shaunm is a professional mastermind documentation hacker | 21:32 |
| j1mc | godbyk: do you have a day job? i'm trying to get info about our diversity for the open week session | 21:32 |
| godbyk | j1mc: Of a sort. I'm a PhD student. | 21:38 |
| issyl0 | Hi there. | 21:47 |
| j1mc | godbyk: cool. what are you studying? | 21:49 |
| issyl0 | Ooh, the Open Week session is 17:00 UTC on Thursday? I should be able to attend then. | 21:50 |
| j1mc | issyl0: great! | 21:50 |
| j1mc | godbyk: i will mention the ubuntu manual in the session. even though you're a separate project, you all still write user help for Ubuntu. | 21:51 |
| issyl0 | And if you want another for your "docs team diversity": college student, studying computing and French, interested in documentation, the English language, programming. | 21:51 |
| issyl0 | (Though I don't know if I'm considered a member of the docs team...) | 21:51 |
| j1mc | issyl0: cool. i can include that, too. | 21:52 |
| issyl0 | (I'm probably not [yet, sadly]. I'm involved in the Ubuntu Manual though! :-)) | 21:52 |
| j1mc | fair enough :) | 21:52 |
| issyl0 | I do try. :-) | 21:53 |
| Captainkrtek | hello | 22:55 |
| Captainkrtek | hey j1mc | 23:16 |
| j1mc | hi Captainkrtek | 23:30 |
| Captainkrtek | hola | 23:30 |
| j1mc | i am headed out to get some pita bread and then listen to bob dylan at a friends house. :) | 23:32 |
| j1mc | s/friends/friend's | 23:32 |
| Captainkrtek | sounds good | 23:33 |
| Captainkrtek | enjoy your day :-) | 23:33 |
| j1mc | you, too! | 23:33 |
| Captainkrtek | thanks :) | 23:33 |
| Captainkrtek | hey JasonO | 23:35 |
| JasonO | Hi Captainkrtek | 23:36 |
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