| LjL | btw feel free to review cam's ban. i personally have zero tolerance for gratuitous bashing of people who made a small mistake. | 00:03 |
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| bazhang | arphetic does not seem to be so much asking for support , as complaining about he/she does not like Natty | 00:31 |
| genii-around | Maybe we need #ubuntu-complaints-dept | 00:32 |
| Jordan_U | Don't expect me to op at the moment as I have severe lag. | 00:34 |
| Jordan_U | But I agree that arphetic is pushing it. | 00:34 |
| bazhang | "Microsoft Ubuntu 11.04" | 00:34 |
| Jordan_U | bazhang: I think it's probably time to deal with arphetic, and I can't due to lag. | 00:46 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, LjL said: !unregged is <reply> #ubuntu-unregged is where users are redirected on joining #ubuntu, when they're either unidentified and the channel requires people to !register due to spam problems, or "join throttling" kicked in. If you're a registered user, it's possible that your client didn't identify in time before joining. | 01:02 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (uotuiouio appears to be abusive - 6) | 03:54 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (17)) | 03:54 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (17)) | 03:55 |
| ubottu | gartral called the ops in #ubuntu (hyu) | 09:10 |
| gartral | I have a request: can we make a ubottu trigger to instruct people on how too switch too Gnome-classic? | 09:30 |
| topyli | !classic | 09:31 |
| ubottu | The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. You can switch back to regular !Gnome by logging out and clicking on your user name, in the Session box at the bottom of the screen select Ubuntu Classic. | 09:31 |
| topyli | like that :) | 09:31 |
| gartral | ohh. i didn't see it in the list! thanks! I was getting of typing it out, lol | 09:33 |
| topyli | :) | 09:33 |
| pennnn | i wpuld complain about starminN | 09:33 |
| pennnn | [10:33] <Starminn> !enter > pennnn [10:33] <ubottu> pennnn, please see my private message [10:33] <Starminn> !details > pennnn [10:34] <Starminn> !patience > pennnn | 09:34 |
| gartral | have a good day ops! | 09:34 |
| Starminn | For all the is pure and good, could somebody please have a talk with pennnn from the #ubuntu channel? | 10:01 |
| Starminn | /s/the/that | 10:01 |
| ASEDDDD | hello | 10:41 |
| jussi | good afternoon ASEDDDD | 10:42 |
| ASEDDDD | why cant get help in ubuntu-offtopic | 10:43 |
| jussi | ASEDDDD: because its offtopic ? | 10:43 |
| ASEDDDD | no look: | 10:43 |
| ASEDDDD | thegoodcushion> | 10:43 |
| ASEDDDD | [11:36] == ASEDDDD [57976a33@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.151.106.51] has joined #ubuntu-offtopic [11:36] <ASEDDDD> hi i am not sure if gnome 3 oir kde is besser [11:36] <chu_> Most people won't read, so sounds good. [11:36] <Flannel> chu_: or this: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi [11:36] <chu_> ASEDDDD: Neither, use awesome [11:36] <ASEDDDD> chu_ dont like awesome :( [11:37] <chu_> Missing out [11:37] <chu_> Flannel: Good arti | 10:43 |
| ASEDDDD | no | 10:43 |
| ASEDDDD | its wrong sorry | 10:43 |
| jussi | ASEDDDD: Im there, and can read backsrcoll. | 10:44 |
| ASEDDDD | i9ts in | 10:44 |
| ASEDDDD | ubuntu-offtopic | 10:44 |
| ASEDDDD | I asked about advice and chu_ always telled me his shit | 10:44 |
| ASEDDDD | about awesome | 10:44 |
| ASEDDDD | and when i said, i dont want it, he said, so you dont get help here | 10:44 |
| jussi | ASEDDDD: its likely you should know that you dont get help there. as I mentioned via ubottu in #ubuntu, "which is best" questions should be asked from bestbot | 10:46 |
| ASEDDDD | i asked if a ppa is safe | 10:47 |
| ASEDDDD | should i ask this to bot ? lol | 10:47 |
| ASEDDDD | lol | 10:47 |
| jussi | no, you asked whether gnome 3 or kde is better... | 10:48 |
| ASEDDDD | wwhy do you lie jussie? | 10:48 |
| jussi | [11:36] <ASEDDDD> hi i am not sure if gnome 3 oir kde is besser | 10:48 |
| ASEDDDD | [11:40] <ASEDDDD> gnome 3 is only available per ppa [11:40] <ASEDDDD> and it can be very buggy, righ t? [11:41] <chu_> Ok... Awesome is available from the repos. | 10:48 |
| ASEDDDD | i asked about gnome 3 | 10:49 |
| ASEDDDD | and he told me awesome | 10:49 |
| ASEDDDD | 10:49 | |
| bazhang | this is gurke_ et al | 10:52 |
| bazhang | Pici, he somehow got around the wildcard ban | 10:58 |
| LjL | good morning. did the bots do anything untoward this night? | 12:12 |
| bazhang | LjL, not that I saw | 12:22 |
| LjL | good good | 12:25 |
| LjL | i think i am supposed to lose my +o in #ubuntu today, so i'm not doing op actions unless i'm given the go-ahead... | 12:56 |
| ikonia | LjL: if you've got it - just keep hold of it, help is appreciated | 13:11 |
| bazhang | LjL, indeed, it'd be nice for you to keep it | 13:32 |
| LjL | it's gone now ;) but maybe i'll apply for ops | 13:33 |
| topyli | LjL: i would assume your application wouldn't be badly hurt even if your wiki page isn't the best ever :) | 13:55 |
| topyli | (didn't look, maybe it is!) | 13:55 |
| LjL | that's a relief topyli, i have a hatred for shiny personal wiki page =) | 13:59 |
| topyli | do make one though | 13:59 |
| LjL | i have one | 13:59 |
| topyli | right | 13:59 |
| LjL | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LorenzoJLucchini | 14:01 |
| Pici | hah | 14:02 |
| topyli | right :) | 14:03 |
| Pici | LjL: You forgot the unfinished floodbots ;) | 14:03 |
| topyli | just add a section for endorsements and this will be the most contradictory wiki page ever | 14:05 |
| LjL | yeah i should probably talk about the bots a little, at least they're relevant to ubuntu | 14:05 |
| topyli | oh yes there is nothing about either irc or ubuntu | 14:06 |
| bazhang | he never helps there! | 14:07 |
| topyli | oh ubuntu is mentioned though | 14:07 |
| bazhang | "watches the watchers" | 14:07 |
| bazhang | we need it tbh | 14:08 |
| jussi | epic wiki page :D | 14:11 |
| * LjL never remembers the ubuntu wiki syntax, how do you make a named internal link? | 14:11 | |
| LjL | oh it's just like metawiki, somehow i assumed it had to be different :P | 14:13 |
| LjL | mediawiki even | 14:13 |
| bazhang | I just copy and paste once in unlocked/editing mode | 14:13 |
| LjL | bots added! | 14:15 |
| bazhang | irc 24/7 support added! | 14:15 |
| jussi | bazhang: LjL 24/7? nahh... have you _ever_ seen LjL here between 0600 and 1300 italian time? | 14:16 |
| jussi | :P | 14:16 |
| LjL | i thought those were just fictional hours...? | 14:17 |
| jussi | LOL | 14:18 |
| LjL | section about bots now made better | 14:18 |
| jussi | hahaha: It's fun because the categories it guesses are never right. | 14:18 |
| jussi | funny, but close to true :P :P | 14:19 |
| * jussi hugs LjL | 14:19 | |
| jussi | mostly because not many people teach it stuff | 14:19 |
| LjL | blame bayes! | 14:19 |
| LjL | naah, i've spent ages teaching it, and it never improved :P | 14:19 |
| jussi | hehe | 14:19 |
| bazhang | hehe | 14:20 |
| LjL | jussi: anyway i think you ought to do op recruitment before releases, not after :P | 14:28 |
| knome | Ungika is throwing the 'bruder' stuff at #xubuntu, was he a known troll? | 14:52 |
| Pici | still? | 14:52 |
| knome | yes | 14:52 |
| knome | and pinging ba zhang, you and ik onia | 14:52 |
| Pici | I'm trying the ignore him and maybe he'll stop approach. | 14:54 |
| LjL | it never worked with me | 14:54 |
| ikonia | I'm actually speaking with him now | 14:57 |
| ikonia | see'ing if we could just let him use the channels normally | 14:57 |
| Pici | ikonia: good luck | 15:00 |
| ikonia | time has passed, maybe time to resolve ? | 15:01 |
| ikonia | he's just ignoring me now, he pm'd me saying "ola" but hasn't responded, | 15:02 |
| ikonia | no joy at all | 15:04 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (yuity appears to be abusive - 6) | 15:33 |
| bazhang | appears to be indeed | 15:34 |
| Pici | So now this bot is free to come back and terrorize another channel since idoru didn't kill it? | 15:35 |
| LjL | Pici: maybe, but other channels *are* now being terrorized but by *different* IPs | 15:35 |
| LjL | these people don't tend to reuse an IP in the first place | 15:35 |
| LjL | still, idoru could be fine. it just needs to be tuned a bit. i'm looking forward for that to happen. | 15:38 |
| * Pici sighs | 17:22 | |
| pankaj | hi there | 19:29 |
| Pici | pankaj: Hi. How can we help you today? | 19:32 |
| Pici | I wonder if theres a way to tell how many users have decided to use Classic Ubuntu versus Unity. | 19:42 |
| IdleOne | create a poll, send to all ubuntu mailing lists? | 19:52 |
| charlie-tca | won't that be in popcon? | 19:56 |
| Pici | charlie-tca: As I understand it, package installs are in popcon, not what settings users have chosen to use, and since they both are installed by default.. | 19:58 |
| charlie-tca | I see. | 19:58 |
| Pici | I'm really really unhappy that we're hitting peaks in #ubuntu days after a release. | 20:43 |
| Jordan_U | A survey is more likely to be filled out by people with a strong opinion on the issue, and strong opinions are much more likely to be unfavorable than favorable. | 20:47 |
| Pici | Indeed. | 20:47 |
| Corey | Pici: Peaks in what sense? | 20:47 |
| Pici | Corey: More people in #ubuntu right now than there were on release day. | 20:48 |
| Corey | Pici: Why does that make you unhappy? | 20:48 |
| Corey | Indicative of things breaking? | 20:48 |
| Pici | Corey: Exactly. | 20:49 |
| Corey | Yeah, my netbook ate itself upon upgrade for the second consecutive release. :-/ | 20:49 |
| Corey | I realize that my anecdote isn't data, but still... | 20:51 |
| Jordan_U | It's data, just not information ;) | 20:53 |
| LjL | Pici: not like breakage wasn't to be expected with this release, though | 20:55 |
| LjL | Pici: do you have precise usercount stats for previous releases as well? i don't have those | 20:56 |
| Pici | LjL: Just because it was expected doesn't mean I have to like it. | 20:56 |
| Pici | LjL: I have 10.04 on this graph: http://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/irccount.html | 20:56 |
| LjL | Pici: interesting graphs but would need other releases to compare to i guess. i can get graphs of message activity (if i can resurrect the scripts that do that), but not user count itself, although maybe activity is a better indicator anyway, not sure | 20:58 |
| LjL | Pici: also, of course you have to like it, ubuntu is not about sadness and hatred | 20:59 |
| Pici | LjL: I have an activity graph as well. | 21:03 |
| LjL | my graphs are better than your graphs | 21:04 |
| Pici | The insecure SQL graphs? | 21:05 |
| LjL | :( | 21:10 |
| LjL | y u call my lack of security insecure | 21:10 |
| Pici | LjL: Because I remember you specifically warning me not to share the link because it was insecure. | 21:18 |
| LjL | Pici: on an unrelated note, i wonder why my server's hard drive has got corrupted. every sector contains a string "PICI TOLD ME TO DO THIS", it must be some magnetic interference | 21:23 |
| hypatia | Magizian spammity spam spam | 21:45 |
| Pici | Yeah, I ended up banning them in #ubuntu too | 21:46 |
| hypatia | Pici: fromt he googles he seems to go way back as a net.kook | 21:47 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (rt6765 appears to be abusive - 6) | 23:50 |
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