[01:12] <webchatTEST> Great implementation of webchat. having the window in the center of the page might make it easier for people to use.
[01:13] <pleia2> ok, lemme see what I can do
[01:13] <MarkDude> Good deal, the top buttons get lost for most folks when they use it
[01:13] <MarkDude> its pretty goo
[01:14] <MarkDude> good
[01:14] <pleia2> ok, there
[01:14] <pleia2> top buttons get lost?
[01:14]  * MarkDude had it set up using the full browser before- and it was hard to explain to people PM
[01:14] <MarkDude> when using a regular browser for webchat
[01:15] <pleia2> oh, yeah
[01:15] <MarkDude> the way you have it is great
[01:15] <pleia2> and I linked to the full screen one, so they can use that if they want to o:)
[01:16] <MarkDude> Well you get bonus points for that
[01:16] <MarkDude> :D
[01:17] <MarkDude> I like how it has links to explain IRC on it- so a person might use it for a bit, and realize there is a better way
[01:18] <MarkDude> but for starting out good way. Then they will want to join more channels, use an IRC client, then next thing ya know- they are in 20 channels
[01:18] <MarkDude> thats what happened to me at least
[01:18]  * pleia2 nods
[01:18] <pleia2> me too, back in 1998 I was using a *java* web client
[01:18] <pleia2> fortunately I saw the light pretty quickly :)
[01:18] <MarkDude> lol
[01:19]  * MarkDude is stoked on all the testimonials Partimus has received - I want to make a little movie about exactly *how* their donations are used. 
[01:20] <MarkDude> I am hoping to have some actual $ donated at some point
[01:20] <pleia2> the testimonials are great
[01:20] <pleia2> currently the money is just being used to cover boring administrative costs ;)
[01:20] <pleia2> it'll be better once we start getting real money
[01:21] <MarkDude> Yep
[01:21] <pleia2> MarkDude: oh, I made sure your CM status is in the board minutes for saturday's meeting
[01:21] <pleia2> I think christian still needs to formalize the minutes and send them out, bit it's in there!
[01:22] <MarkDude> Very cool, sometimes knowledge can be a limiter, formalities are good to pay attention to
[01:22] <pleia2> ok, time to take a much needed napp
[01:22] <MarkDude> I need to go back and lurn some more stuff from Foundation Center
[01:22]  * pleia2 haz cold, wants to not haz cold
[01:22] <MarkDude> ttyl
[01:23] <MarkDude> Tell your cat to not be afraid of your purple hat
[01:23] <MarkDude> :D
[01:44] <DarkwingDuck> Uggh
[01:45] <DarkwingDuck> UDS is going to be interesting... tracks start at 0900 CEST that is Midnight PST
[01:49] <MarkDude> Where is it Elbonia?
[01:49]  * MarkDude knows it is Budapest
[01:49] <MarkDude> How are things with you DarkwingDuck ?
[01:59] <DarkwingDuck> MarkDude: I'm good
[01:59] <DarkwingDuck> MarkDude: getting my schedule down for remote participation
[02:00] <MarkDude> Good deal
[02:03] <DarkwingDuck> MarkDude: it starts at midnight the night before for us each day
[03:32] <abiss27> hey guys
[03:34] <sn9> hi
[03:42] <abiss27> I was looking at learning some programming and saw this on Ubuntu
[03:43] <abiss27> how to get started doing this?
[03:43] <aaditya> Hi abiss27. What are you trying to do?
[03:44] <abiss27> Just learn programming language, and help out
[03:45] <abiss27> i was looking at Python
[03:56] <akk> Python's a great language to start with (and then keep using long after you started :)
[03:57] <aaditya> Sorry, had to reboot.
[05:41] <nhaines> pleia2: congratulations! :D
[05:45] <pleia2> nhaines: thanks :) I'm pretty excited
[05:55] <nhaines> pleia2: you'll do great!
[05:56] <pleia2> nhaines: having the ubucon video has been really helpful, I'm nitpicking for all the things I need to improve
[05:56] <pleia2> (still hate watching it, but it's for the best :))
[06:00] <nhaines> pleia2: haha, yeah, I hate watching my Upscale vid.
[09:32] <iheartubuntu> quake anyone here in so cal?
[09:33] <iheartubuntu> 3.1
[09:35] <iheartubuntu> epicenter was south of me about 5 mi. that was a weird one. felt like a sonic boom and that was it. a quick creeking sound too. maybe its a precursor to something bigger
[17:49] <jamalta> Morning
[17:55] <sn9> good one, i hope
[18:00] <jamalta> sn9: so far it is :), how about you?
[18:01] <sn9> i have been waiting for a couple of weeks for dslextreme to send an at&t tech to fix the line
[18:01] <jamalta> sn9: ouch.. what's wrong with it?
[18:01] <sn9> yet ANOTHER appt window today, 8am - 8pm
[18:01] <jamalta> O.O
[18:01] <jamalta> That is insane!
[18:02] <sn9> dslextreme has completely gone to shit in the past couple of years; stay the hell away from them
[18:03] <sn9> i'd switch to sonic fusion in a heartbeat if it were available in sacramento
[18:04] <jamalta> sn9: i've been thinking about switching to sonic, but i'm not completely confident that the phone lines in my apartment actually work.
[18:05] <sn9> you're in nob hill, right?
[18:05] <jamalta> but haven't really bothered to test.. comcast has been ok
[18:05] <jamalta> sn9: yeah.. they service my area since about 3 months ago
[18:05] <sn9> comcast is ugh
[18:05] <jamalta> yeah :\
[18:05] <jamalta> but sounds like it's better than dslextreme :P
[18:06] <sn9> that's a sad thought
[18:06] <sn9> but fusion might not be economical if you have no use for a landline
[18:06] <sn9> then again, it still might
[18:06] <sn9> it's $40/mo
[18:07] <sn9> with tax, comes out to about $52
[18:07] <sn9> do you have the comcast triple play, or just double play?
[18:10] <sn9> since you mentioned being unsure about the lines, i'm assuming double
[18:11] <iheartubuntu> i found cable internet companies are easier to bargain with
[18:11] <iheartubuntu> im at 10 mb/s for $25/mo
[18:11] <sn9> iheartubuntu: comcast, unless you opt for business class service, doesn't offer anything worth bargaining for
[18:12] <jamalta> sn9: i have tv and internet.. but i would get rid of both if i switched.
[18:12] <jamalta> rather, when.
[18:13] <sn9> sonic fusion offers up to 25 Mb/s and a POTS line with unlimited free domestic long distance for that $40
[18:13] <iheartubuntu> actually thats sounds awesome
[18:14] <sn9> well, speed is inversely proportional to CO distance
[18:14] <iheartubuntu> i couldnt afford $50 for the 25mbs so i did the $35 plan and talked them down
[18:14] <sn9> for actual 25 Mb/s it would need to be around 1000 feet
[18:14] <iheartubuntu> ATT and verizon down here (dsl) said their prices were set and couldnt change anything
[18:15] <sn9> comcast says that here
[18:15] <sn9> well, by here i mean where jamalta is
[18:15] <sn9> i haven't tried where i am
[18:16] <iheartubuntu> r u with comcast now? tell them you'll jump ship to the new fios if fios is available. time warner got all nervous and kept sending me to different reps
[18:16] <sn9> there is no fios anywhere up here
[18:16] <iheartubuntu> i was to the point where i didnt want internet at all from anyone and said "look just cancel my stupid service right now!" and then the said ok how does $25 a month sound?
[18:17] <iheartubuntu> now i know what it means to be willing to walk away :)
[18:17] <sn9> btw, if you have an at&t landline and port the number to sonic fusion, their retentions dept will fight tooth and nail to get you back
[18:17] <jamalta> iheartubuntu: haha nice
[18:17] <jamalta> unfortunately, there's no fios in nob hill :\
[18:17] <jamalta> not last i checked at least
[18:18] <jamalta> sn9: damn, that'd be annoying
[18:18] <sn9> there is no fios in SF, period
[18:18] <jamalta> sn9: ah... i see.
[18:18] <sn9> nor in Sac
[18:18] <iheartubuntu> i noticed some serious deals on jetblue this morning for calif supported airports
[18:19] <sn9> that reminds me, i need to call about renting a car in chicago in august
[18:19] <iheartubuntu> ive only had bon vonage ever since they started up. prices have never changed on me which is good, but they are terrible to deal with if you make a call that doesnt go thru
[18:19] <sn9> vonage is voip
[18:20] <sn9> there is no voip with fusion
[18:20] <iheartubuntu> jetblue: LA to Seattle for $150 rt
[18:21] <sn9> grr, lunch time there
[18:21] <jamalta> sn9: lunch time? o.O
[18:22] <sn9> in central time, yeah
[18:22] <jamalta> oh! Chicago, sorry missed that :)
[18:23] <sn9> i wanna reserve that before booking the flight
[18:25]  * iheartubuntu wished jetblue flew to europe
[18:26]  * jamalta wishes jetblue would fly SFO -> MCO non-stop :\
[18:26] <jamalta> MCO is Orlando
[18:26] <sn9> i don't think anyone does nonstop
[18:26] <jamalta> sn9: Some do
[18:26] <jamalta> United goes non-stop
[18:26] <sn9> oh ok
[18:27] <jamalta> But that flight isn't very common
[18:27] <jamalta> On my way back, I have to stop at LAX