| rick_h__ | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/05/sony-attacked-again-12700-non-us-cc-numbers-feared-stolen.ars | 01:14 |
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| rick_h__ | gah! | 01:14 |
| rick_h__ | Blazeix: heard much on the arch stable-ing out? | 01:20 |
| Blazeix | rick_h__: tough to tell, I'm pretty pissed that they moved from gtk2 to gtk3. | 01:21 |
| rick_h__ | my boss made the switch this weekend | 01:22 |
| rick_h__ | next day gnome3 | 01:22 |
| Blazeix | since there's only one gtk3 theme out there, you're going to lose your look/feel, assuming gtk factors into it. | 01:22 |
| rick_h__ | he hopped on IM there and was just "talk about bad timing!" | 01:22 |
| Blazeix | yeah, luckily I use chrome/rxvt pretty much exclusively | 01:22 |
| rick_h__ | yea, fortunately I've not gone gtk for much of anything at this point, though I know chrome/firefox pay some attention to it | 01:22 |
| Blazeix | so it isn't too bad, but chrome is ugly | 01:23 |
| rick_h__ | ugh | 01:23 |
| rick_h__ | bah, keep failing to install this pencil package as well | 01:23 |
| Blazeix | this is the default look for nautilus now: http://frabjous.ath.cx/files/upload/nautilus-adwaita.png | 01:23 |
| Blazeix | makes my eyes bleed. That's how it's supposed to look. | 01:23 |
| rick_h__ | giant! | 01:23 |
| rick_h__ | yea, I've been a long time thunar user | 01:23 |
| Blazeix | yeah, thunar looks terrible now, since I don't think there's an xfce/gtk3 integration | 01:24 |
| rick_h__ | ugh | 01:24 |
| rick_h__ | yea, I used to use lxappearance to help with my apps that listen to gtk stuff | 01:24 |
| rick_h__ | guessing that's out the window | 01:24 |
| Blazeix | yeah, there's gnome-tweak-tool, and a config file you can edit to tweak stuff | 01:25 |
| Blazeix | gnome-tweak-tool will crash if you don't have gnome-shell installed, though. | 01:25 |
| rick_h__ | the shots I've seen of the gnome3 desktop though is quite horrid | 01:25 |
| Blazeix | The whole thing just feels very raw. | 01:25 |
| rick_h__ | welcome to OSS in 2011 | 01:25 |
| rick_h__ | these are the times that test us... | 01:25 |
| Blazeix | it's almost enough to make me switch to a Qt desktop | 01:26 |
| Blazeix | almost | 01:26 |
| rick_h__ | so I wonder how this is in ubuntu/unity land | 01:26 |
| rick_h__ | that's gtk3 right? | 01:26 |
| Blazeix | not sure | 01:26 |
| rick_h__ | wonder how other apps look with it | 01:26 |
| Blazeix | actually, I'm not sure if it's gtk3 | 01:27 |
| rick_h__ | bah, this sucks. Can't get the app to install so do I sign up for a web service or not, that is the question | 01:28 |
| snap-l | Unity is still gtk2 | 01:29 |
| jjesse | just switch all to kubuntu and your life will be better | 01:30 |
| snap-l | Yeah, after all, once the baby is out, who needs bathwater? | 01:31 |
| rick_h__ | dammit, and twitter guys by client I finally like | 01:32 |
| rick_h__ | the world is full of suck today | 01:32 |
| snap-l | Which client? | 01:32 |
| rick_h__ | tweetdeck | 01:32 |
| snap-l | Brillant. ;) | 01:32 |
| snap-l | Well, look on the bright side: it'll be supported the rest of it's life | 01:33 |
| rick_h__ | wonder if I can get single use CC nubmers for my debit card | 01:33 |
| rick_h__ | man I don't trust anyone right now | 01:33 |
| snap-l | whether if that's tomorrow or two years from now is anybody's guess. :) | 01:33 |
| rick_h__ | @#$@#% and chase is down? wtf people | 01:33 |
| Blazeix | I hear HP just bought lenovo, too. | 01:34 |
| Blazeix | and all tiling window managers are halting development | 01:35 |
| greg-g | wha? | 01:35 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Time for the hermit life | 01:35 |
| Blazeix | greg-g: not actually | 01:35 |
| Blazeix | greg-g: just painting rick_h__'s worst nightmare | 01:35 |
| greg-g | Blazeix: that's what I get for only switching over to this desktop and just reading one line of scroll back | 01:35 |
| Blazeix | heh | 01:35 |
| rick_h__ | I'm going into depression/the bunker | 01:35 |
| rick_h__ | sony hacked a freaking gain | 01:35 |
| snap-l | HP buys Lenovo, Awesome stops development, and work mandates that everyone uses OSX | 01:35 |
| rick_h__ | packages won't install, want to use a single use CC number for my debit card, but bank website is down and don't htink they support it | 01:36 |
| snap-l | Including the servers | 01:36 |
| rick_h__ | oh hell, now you're just doing crazy talk | 01:36 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: What packages are you installing that require a debit card? | 01:36 |
| rick_h__ | pencil install fails, so signing up for http://gomockingbird.com | 01:37 |
| rick_h__ | oh lovely, if I was a mid-sized business chase would give me a single use account number | 01:37 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: I'm sorry... I'm really sorry | 01:37 |
| rick_h__ | but not little ole me | 01:37 |
| snap-l | (that's what Doctor Who says before the other shoe drops" | 01:38 |
| rick_h__ | that's it, emailing them I want a paypal option since I don't trust them with my CC number | 01:38 |
| Blazeix | rick_h__: will the AUR pencil-svn package not work? | 01:38 |
| rick_h__ | Blazeix: no, build fails and not sure why tbh | 01:39 |
| rick_h__ | trace isn't clear to me on what's failing/missing | 01:39 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: http://ubuntuone.com/p/qG5/ <- I'm sorry, I'm really sorry. | 01:39 |
| snap-l | What exactly is pencil supposed to do anyway? | 01:40 |
| rick_h__ | oh interesting, I missed that it was FF based | 01:40 |
| rick_h__ | that's probably it, sayhs ff3.5 | 01:40 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: mockup tool | 01:41 |
| rick_h__ | I need to mock some bookie ui layouts | 01:41 |
| snap-l | I don't think Pencil is what you're looking for | 01:41 |
| snap-l | This appears to be a 2D animation tool | 01:42 |
| rick_h__ | http://pencil.evolus.vn/en-US/Home.aspx | 01:43 |
| rick_h__ | yea, wrong thing | 01:43 |
| snap-l | Jesus, how many of these damn things are out there? | 01:44 |
| snap-l | I've seen three, two of which were $80 | 01:44 |
| snap-l | all web-based. | 01:44 |
| snap-l | And it was at this moment that snap-l realized why that was, and snuck back to the rock to which he craweld from. | 01:46 |
| rick_h__ | huh? | 01:46 |
| snap-l | You're mocking up web-based interfaces, no? | 01:46 |
| snap-l | So, naturally, you'd want something web-based. ;) | 01:46 |
| rick_h__ | well I am, but mocking is just mocking | 01:47 |
| rick_h__ | ColonelPanic001: you're needed in #bookie | 01:47 |
| snap-l | Nuts, I think I cooked a motion sensor because I didn't understand how to hook it up right | 04:08 |
| greg-g | g'morning | 13:21 |
| rick_h__ | party | 13:22 |
| rick_h__ | lots of $5 albums on amazon mp3 land | 13:22 |
| rick_h__ | woo! new music to start the new day | 13:22 |
| wolfger | party | 13:28 |
| wolfger | but don't let snap-l hear that you're using and enjoying Amazon MP3.... :-) | 13:28 |
| rick_h__ | hah, how can I use ubuntu one? I don't run ubuntu :P | 13:31 |
| snap-l | !openmetalcast 20, recorded live at !penguicon. 19 people saw what went in, but nobody heard what came out. http://ur1.ca/42oc4 Scary! | 13:33 |
| snap-l | wolfger: I prefer Ubuntu One because of the syncing. There's no question that Amazon has better sales. | 13:34 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: It's only a matter of time before you're back to Ubuntu. ;) | 13:34 |
| rick_h__ | heh, why sync, I've bought 10 albums and not downloaded one :) | 13:34 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Because I like having my music not suddenly vanish. ;) | 13:35 |
| snap-l | Y'know... like a cloud on a windy day. | 13:35 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: they also have a new feature, it'll auto download | 13:36 |
| rick_h__ | When you save your Amazon MP3 purchases to Cloud Drive, you can download new purchases from Cloud Drive to this computer automatically. | 13:36 |
| rick_h__ | This setting is unique to each of your computers and must be set from Your Account > Your Amazon MP3 Settings from each computer. This setting can also be set for your Android device. | 13:36 |
| snap-l | Ah, cool. | 13:36 |
| rick_h__ | boom! | 13:36 |
| rick_h__ | :P | 13:36 |
| snap-l | May consider using it again | 13:36 |
| snap-l | HEy, that was my biggest beef. If they fixed it, I'm settled. | 13:36 |
| rick_h__ | not that I don't like supporting my canonical buddies, but sorry... | 13:36 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: the big thing is that U1 would do better sycning your existing stuff | 13:37 |
| rick_h__ | uploading your stuff to cloud drive is a bit of a pita | 13:37 |
| snap-l | Yeah, u1 needs to excell in that areal | 13:39 |
| snap-l | Bah, where'd that extra l come from | 13:39 |
| jjesse | the amazon mp3 player is pretty cool use it on my android all the time | 13:42 |
| jjesse | uploaded my running music playlist to it, and then use the mp3 + my tracks when i run | 13:42 |
| jjesse | mp3 player pauses when my tracks announces my time | 13:43 |
| paroneayea | I'm just joining this channel because greg-g is awesome | 15:43 |
| paroneayea | I love that guy. | 15:43 |
| snap-l | Yeah, we're fans as well. | 15:43 |
| wolfger | welcome to #greg-g-fanclub | 15:43 |
| paroneayea | :D | 15:43 |
| wolfger | just as long as you're not here because you think brousch is awesome... :-p | 15:44 |
| greg-g | heya paroneayea :) | 15:44 |
| snap-l | I was about ready to give up computers and become a hermit until I met greg-g. Now I hang out in IRC all day and stroke the picture of greg-g that I have in my office. | 15:44 |
| snap-l | He's so dreamy. | 15:44 |
| greg-g | | <-- line snap-l --> * | 15:45 |
| * paroneayea pets greg-g's head softly | 15:45 | |
| greg-g | :) | 15:45 |
| paroneayea | too bad greg-g's already engaged. | 15:45 |
| paroneayea | and that I'm married. | 15:45 |
| * wolfger puts on the bow-chika-wow-wow music | 15:45 | |
| * _stink_ gets the camcorder | 15:45 | |
| wolfger | ...it's like Penguicon all over again | 15:46 |
| greg-g | only with less furries | 15:46 |
| snap-l | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofibNrYDjdY <- Replace Ace Rimmer with greg-g, and you'll get it mostly right. | 15:46 |
| _stink_ | someone put on a wizard hat | 15:46 |
| greg-g | yay, Red Dwarf! | 15:46 |
| brousch | greg-g: you don't know how we're all dressed. this is the internet! | 15:47 |
| paroneayea | wizard hat! I have one of those | 15:47 |
| paroneayea | % | 15:47 |
| paroneayea | \'. | 15:47 |
| paroneayea | \ '. | 15:47 |
| paroneayea | \ \ | 15:48 |
| paroneayea | _L__L_ | 15:48 |
| paroneayea | //~ ~ | 15:48 |
| paroneayea | G > | 15:48 |
| wolfger | greg-g: Yeah. brousch is wearing his fursuit | 15:48 |
| paroneayea | / \\\\-------.__ * * * * | 15:48 |
| paroneayea | / ' \\\______ |T * MAGIC * | 15:48 |
| paroneayea | | \ \\ \| * * * * | 15:48 |
| greg-g | warning, paroneayea likes his ascii art, he is my resident ascii art friend :) | 15:48 |
| wolfger | percentage-wise, that would make this channel more furry-inhabited than pcon | 15:48 |
| _stink_ | COWSAY plz | 15:49 |
| Milyardo | paroneayea: Where's the magic stick? | 15:51 |
| snap-l | Milyardo: greg-g doesn't need his magic stick | 15:51 |
| paroneayea | \'. | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | \ '. | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | \ \ | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | _L__L_ _ | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | //~ ~ / / | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | G > // | 15:55 |
| brousch | no magic sticks please. let's keep this sfw | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | / \\\\-------._// | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | / ' \\\______ |T3 | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | | \ \\ \// | 15:55 |
| brousch | oh man, i bogarted the ascii art | 15:55 |
| paroneayea | <it_crowd>"Are dragons gay, Phil? Mighty warrior priests wielding golden staffs, I suppose they’re gay too.</it_crowd> | 15:56 |
| snap-l | http://imgur.com/xlAkI | 16:33 |
| jrwren | lol | 16:41 |
| snap-l | http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3163 | 17:01 |
| _stink_ | what a guy. | 17:03 |
| brousch | um, crap. SSDs fail a lot http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/05/the-hot-crazy-solid-state-drive-scale.html | 17:05 |
| snap-l | brousch: Yeah, and catastrophically. | 17:06 |
| brousch | this is not news i wanted to hear. make it go away | 17:07 |
| Milyardo | but the hotness | 17:11 |
| rick_h__ | heh, never going to be on non-ssd here | 17:12 |
| rick_h__ | never had issues with my intels. 2yr out of my old one before I sold it and a year into this one | 17:12 |
| jrwren | i love that he references the hot/crazy scale. | 17:17 |
| rick_h__ | greg-g: http://ejohn.org/blog/next-steps-in-2011/ kind of cool | 17:38 |
| rick_h__ | open course type stuff it sounds like | 17:38 |
| greg-g | rick_h__: cool, yeah, Khan Academy is pretty neat. I'm very glad that they have someone from Mozilla starting there working on Open Source stuff | 17:42 |
| snap-l | https://twitter.com/#!/zedshaw/statuses/65510057437184001 | 21:27 |
| jrwren | lol | 21:39 |
| jrwren | <3 zedshaw | 21:39 |
| snap-l | jcastro: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/308/ | 21:41 |
| snap-l | jcastro: You're a freaking mind-worm. ;) | 21:41 |
| jrwren | it was only 150 yrs ago. | 21:43 |
| jrwren | Standard Time didn't come into existence until rail travel necessitated it. | 21:43 |
| jrwren | and people did it according to the town tower. That is why towns had clock towers. | 21:43 |
| snap-l | She just got a pocket watch, so that's where the question came up | 21:44 |
| jrwren | tell her to find a town clock tower. | 21:44 |
| jrwren | mine is at ntp.ubuntu.com :) | 21:44 |
| snap-l | har har. :) | 21:45 |
| snap-l | All I know is I wish everything I owned either set time via the internet or via WWVB | 21:46 |
| snap-l | Or CallerID | 21:46 |
| snap-l | There is no reason I should have to set the Wii's clock manually | 21:47 |
| TeamXlink | Is there a way to use two power supplies to power *one* graphics card? If so would this solve the problem of a lower then recommended power supply? My power supply is a 250 watt and It is powering the motherboard and graphics card, I have another 250 watt power supply powering all of the fans and drives. I've disabled the pci slots, serial port, parelle port, mouse * keyboard port to save po | 21:51 |
| TeamXlink | wer (I'm unsure if that made a difference or not however). | 21:52 |
| snap-l | TeamXlink: Um... | 21:52 |
| snap-l | Where oh where to begin... | 21:53 |
| TeamXlink | Its amps that matter though right? | 21:53 |
| TeamXlink | More then watts? | 21:53 |
| snap-l | Well, let's just say if you're running two power supplies, and still not getting enough juice, that's indicative that there might be something else wrong | 21:54 |
| snap-l | I guess my first question would be what prompted you to think you need more power for the vid card? | 21:54 |
| TeamXlink | The recommended specifications and results of online searches. | 21:54 |
| jrwren | does the video card have a separate power input? and you are using it on the secondary PS? | 21:55 |
| jrwren | if it is a beefy enough video card, it is likely you don't have enough power. | 21:55 |
| jrwren | 250W is very little. | 21:55 |
| snap-l | Well, it's also likely you don't have the right connector either | 21:56 |
| jrwren | also, the Vid Card spec should say how much it needs on the 5V rail. | 21:56 |
| TeamXlink | snape-I: And the auto tune in the ati overdrive underclocks my graphics card due to insufficent power, or thats the reason I think it does that. | 21:56 |
| TeamXlink | The graphics card has a 4 pin connector on it that is plugged into the power supply that is powering the motherbard and graphics card | 21:57 |
| snap-l | Right, OK. | 21:57 |
| snap-l | So it's drawing power from the Mobo and this separate cable? | 21:57 |
| TeamXlink | Yes. | 21:58 |
| TeamXlink | jrwren: I'll go fetch the link for you. | 21:58 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I think you're not going to be easily able to drive that with two PS units. | 21:58 |
| TeamXlink | It says 1.5v for agp4x | 21:59 |
| jrwren | what kind of card? | 21:59 |
| jrwren | AGP??/ zomg, ancient, how much power can it need? | 21:59 |
| TeamXlink | http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-HD3650-Video-100258L/dp/B001L62INY | 21:59 |
| TeamXlink | It is a 8x agp card but supports 4x agp | 22:00 |
| TeamXlink | The fan on the one that arrived is different then the fan in the first pic, it looks like this one http://ec5.images-amazon.com/images/I/2185DP%2BbquL.jpg but it keeps temperatures realtively low. | 22:00 |
| jrwren | 300W min. | 22:01 |
| snap-l | yeah | 22:01 |
| jrwren | so I'd try pluging the secondary power supply into the 4pin | 22:01 |
| TeamXlink | Mine has 2 dvi ports as well I just noticed. | 22:01 |
| TeamXlink | Alright. | 22:01 |
| jrwren | maybe it will balance some from mobo and some from secondary | 22:01 |
| TeamXlink | But that one is powering all of the other devices? | 22:01 |
| jrwren | but its a gamble. | 22:01 |
| jrwren | what "other devices" ? | 22:01 |
| jrwren | drives dont' pull much. | 22:01 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Newer drives don't. ;) | 22:02 |
| TeamXlink | Hard drive 4 case fans | 22:02 |
| snap-l | I used to have some 150MB Wren drives that needed a separate case / PSU to run. ;) | 22:02 |
| jrwren | i don't know about fans, but given they are just electric motors like a hard drive, its going to be nearly nothing. | 22:02 |
| jrwren | snap-l: right. | 22:02 |
| jrwren | not just "newer drives" | 22:02 |
| TeamXlink | It is filling the space where the disc drives would go so I don't have any disc drives installed unfortuenataly. | 22:02 |
| jrwren | but anything even remotely modern. | 22:02 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Yeah, just reminded me of that case. | 22:03 |
| TeamXlink | It is a 60gb Western Digital WDC WD600BB-75CAA0 | 22:03 |
| snap-l | TeamXlink: Yeah, you should be fine | 22:04 |
| jrwren | TeamXlink: anything made within the last 15 yrs is going to be fine and draw very little power. | 22:04 |
| TeamXlink | Alright thank you. | 22:04 |
| TeamXlink | I eventually want to either get a power supply I can use for everything or find another way to mount the extra powersupply, using my drives in an external drive usb setup is vary slow. and I still haven't found a way to use the floppy drive as well. | 22:05 |
| jrwren | one of 'em is a 60G... you could get a 2TB and a 400W seasonic for well under $150 | 22:06 |
| TeamXlink | Thats more then I payed for the computer, lol | 22:06 |
| TeamXlink | The computer was originally a Dell Optiplex GX 260, but the only thing left of that setup is the case and motherboard, everything else is different. | 22:07 |
| jrwren | old stuff is a bummer. | 22:09 |
| TeamXlink | Its not that old. | 22:09 |
| TeamXlink | The graphics card is miles better then my old one. | 22:10 |
| TeamXlink | The only thing I don't like about it is the ram setup. | 22:10 |
| TeamXlink | It has a maximum of 1gb of ram. | 22:10 |
| jrwren | ancient. | 22:11 |
| TeamXlink | The processor isn't stock either I just realized, the one I have is a 2 ghz. | 22:13 |
| TeamXlink | Thank you for the help everyone! | 22:13 |
| TeamXlink | hmmm. | 22:15 |
| TeamXlink | Dells specs about the ram limit are different then the specs elsewhere on the internet. | 22:15 |
| TeamXlink | Maybe it was changed in a bios upgrade. | 22:15 |
| TeamXlink | Yeah it is 2gb, sweet! | 22:21 |
| TeamXlink | I have a question though. | 22:21 |
| TeamXlink | I have 3 x 1gb ram chips that wouldn't fit the slots in my computer however they work on the family computer, I still don't know what the differences are though. | 22:22 |
| TeamXlink | I think my computer requires ddr while the other one requires ddr2 | 22:22 |
| TeamXlink | http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx260/en/ug/specs.htm#1110653 http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dime521/en/sm_en/specs.htm would any ddr ram work? | 22:23 |
| jrwren | any DDR1. | 22:23 |
| TeamXlink | Alright, sweet thank you! | 22:25 |
| TeamXlink | I'm going to post an add on craigslist to see if I can trade the 1gb ddr2 chips for 1gb ddr1 chips. | 22:26 |
| TeamXlink | Thank you everyone for the help again! | 22:26 |
| Milyardo | WHats with some people and blind hostility towards Mono? | 23:35 |
| brousch | mono is the evil spawn of that sell-out miguel de icaza and steve ballmer | 23:37 |
| brousch | no good can come from such a union | 23:37 |
| Milyardo | Not sure about how Ballmer is involved, but Miguel is nicest guy | 23:38 |
| brousch | i was just channeling the haters | 23:39 |
| brousch | the hostility comes from mono being based on a microsoft product | 23:43 |
| Milyardo | like WINE? | 23:44 |
| Milyardo | Where's the Alexander hate then? | 23:44 |
| brousch | wine is more trying to find a way around microsoft | 23:44 |
| brousch | mono embrasses the microsoft | 23:44 |
| brousch | embraces | 23:45 |
| brousch | wine is a hackish way of fighting the man. mono acknowledges that MS has something worthwhile | 23:45 |
| Milyardo | Not sure if I see how reimplementing .NET isn't any less finding a way around MS as say OpenJDK reimplementing Java | 23:46 |
| Milyardo | *and finding away around Sun/Oracle | 23:46 |
| brousch | acknowledging sun has something worthwhile is much more acceptable than MS | 23:47 |
| Milyardo | What about Samba then? | 23:47 |
| brousch | hackish | 23:48 |
| brousch | you're looking at this far too logically to understand the haters | 23:48 |
| Milyardo | I'm trying and failing | 23:48 |
| brousch | MS is the great devil | 23:51 |
| brousch | anything provided by MS is evil | 23:51 |
| brousch | so happily accepting and embracing their technology makes you evil | 23:52 |
| brousch | people only use samba because their boss makes them work with windows computers | 23:53 |
| brousch | people use wine because they want to play games on linux | 23:53 |
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