[00:13] <popman> hey
[00:14] <popman> How can I hide my ip stuff on freenoid?
[00:16] <dmcglone> use freenode instead ;-)
[00:16] <popman> freenode* ;)
[00:17] <dmcglone> I'm not sure it's possible :-/
[00:18] <popman> o
[00:31] <BiosElement> Sony lost the game again: http://www.gamepolitics.com/2011/05/02/soe-user-data-and-credit-card-information-compromised-services-taken-down
[01:19] <dmcglone> haha poor sony, getting their butt kicked
[01:21] <BiosElement> Pretty much.
[01:21] <BiosElement> So who here would trust sony with a single email address after their amazing security demonstration? >.<
[01:27] <dmcglone> I would ;-)
[01:28] <BiosElement> iamspam@lol.com? >.>
[01:30] <dmcglone> Igotstupidwrittenacrossmyforhead@msn.com
[01:30] <BiosElement> not hotmail? :P
[01:31] <dmcglone> don't they all use the same server? :-p
[01:31] <BiosElement> Probably
[01:32] <dmcglone> Iliketotakeitinthebutt@sony.com
[01:32] <dmcglone> haha
[01:44] <Unit193> popman: You're looking for a cloak
[03:21] <Unit193> Derath-Srvr: Welcome back (Internet issues?)
[05:02] <Unit193> canthus13: Liquorix is faster on Lubuntu/VM
[05:03] <Unit193> (Synaptic loaded database and the search seems faster)
[07:23] <jgould> quit
[11:56] <canthus13> Unit193: Cool. :)
[14:20] <Derath-Srvr> Okay, to answer from yesterday...
[14:28] <Derath-Srvr> BiosElement: Yes, a single box (350) per release. The cds I had Sunday were the ones I intentionally held back from the box I received.
[14:29] <Derath-Srvr> I also needed some of those for the Installfest the Dayton LUG is running next weekend
[14:31] <Derath-Srvr> but agreed, 350 per release per lug is pretty restrictive, esp when in a single small event I can pass out over 50, and at larger city-wide events, I can give out 700+....
[14:31] <Derath-Srvr> And that's why I emailed Jorge
[14:33] <Derath-Srvr> If I order a box to help in the dayton area, that means the rest of the LoCo does not receive any cds for the release
[14:33] <Derath-Srvr> Keep in mind this does not count for conference packs (like OLF), which are ordered on a as-needed basis, and requires approval...
[14:34] <Derath-Srvr> (last I heard anyways)
[14:40] <_bbb> you see jorge hating on ohio in that road trip post
[14:40] <_bbb> harumph
[14:40] <_bbb> talking about avoiding driving thru ohio
[14:41] <jrgifford> you have me to thank for that. I regularly bug jorge on askubuntu.com. that's why he's NEVER COMING TO OHIO. :P
[14:41] <Derath-Srvr> He only comes for OLF..
[14:52] <_bbb> yeah
[14:52] <_bbb> not this year i hear
[14:52] <_bbb> me neither most likely
[14:52] <_bbb> wifey has a due date of 10/7
[15:39] <Derath-Srvr> Wow, cutting it close...
[17:07] <Derath-Srvr> wb cheri
[17:07] <Cheri703> thanks
[17:07] <Cheri703> I was out doing a TON of grocery shopping :)
[17:09] <Derath-Srvr> Cool, stocked up huh?
[17:09] <Cheri703> yeah, making sure husband doesn't starve while I'm at UDS
[17:14] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[17:21] <Derath-Srvr> Paultag: any traffic about my email?
[17:27] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: I've not sent anything out :)
[17:27] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: we talked about this
[17:28] <Derath-Srvr> Really?
[17:28] <Derath-Srvr> What's the verdict so far?
[17:28] <paultag> ya'll should request NY or MI to send packs to OLF to avoid us fighting with Canonical
[17:28] <paultag> if you want to do that, let's do it right after OLF
[17:28] <paultag> so that we have a year to make sure it's all good. Canonical is very slow
[17:28] <Derath-Srvr> Hmm...
[17:28] <paultag> and if they know we want more, then the NY / MI trick might piss them off
[17:29] <paultag> but if we use NY or MI now, then ask for double for OLF, it's better
[17:29] <Derath-Srvr> are the ny and mi groups that large, or just that influential?
[17:29] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: they are approved and outside ohio
[17:29] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: so they can request a conf-pack for OLF, and we'll request one for OLF
[17:29] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: then we have two
[17:29] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: you see?
[17:29] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah I see that part...
[17:29] <Derath-Srvr> was wondering about this: " then the NY / MI trick might piss them off"
[17:29] <paultag> as well as our 6 month
[17:30] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: yes, because we're going around the rules
[17:30] <Derath-Srvr> Would hate to get others in trouble for it too... but we may have to go that route for OLF...
[17:30] <paultag> if you ask for permission then do something that toes the line, it's not good
[17:30] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: oh, and be sure to request one for Ubucon and one for OLF ;)
[17:30] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: there are like 4 ways we can get at least double
[17:31] <Derath-Srvr> True, and that's good for the conf packs...
[17:31] <paultag> and we do have a 6 month as well
[17:31] <paultag> not sure who requested that
[17:31] <paultag> we'll be locked and loaded for sure
[17:31] <Derath-Srvr> My biggest concern is with the events that I handle with the Dayton LUG, I'd take all the CDs from normal releases and the rest of the LoCo would be left with nothing...
[17:32] <Derath-Srvr> See where I'm coming from?
[17:32] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: I don't think anyone would complain if our six-month went to OLF
[17:32] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: yeah I do
[17:32] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: we can just give a 75 pack out to reloco leads at OLF
[17:32] <paultag> that's more then enough :)
[17:32] <Derath-Srvr> That's enough for my installfest, but techfest needs more...
[17:33] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: get a conf pack for that
[17:33] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: just request it as the dayton reloco, not the D-LUG
[17:33] <Derath-Srvr> Hmm... good point...
[17:33] <Derath-Srvr> Didn't think TechFest would count as a conf...
[17:33] <Derath-Srvr> but will try that this winter for the spring event
[17:33] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: i'm sure it will be fine :)
[17:34] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: t-shirts never hurt anyone
[17:34] <Derath-Srvr> will need the 75 pack for fall's installfest
[17:34] <paultag> :)
[17:34] <Derath-Srvr> do we have contacts with ny/mi?
[17:34] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: jcastro is mi, talk with deejoe or charles about ny
[17:34] <Derath-Srvr> Hmm...
[17:35] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: use jorge's personal mail if you ask him
[17:35] <Derath-Srvr> don't have personal... just have ub...
[17:35] <Derath-Srvr> msg it?
[17:35] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: sure, let me find it
[17:35] <Derath-Srvr> k
[17:35] <paultag> kk
[17:36] <Derath-Srvr> thx!
[17:36] <paultag> np
[17:36] <paultag> just ask him loco member to loco member, get his canonical hat off :)
[17:40] <Derath-Srvr> What do you think of that for the email?
[18:04] <Derath-Srvr> btw, for those interested, CFP (call for presenters) for OLF has been extended until June 1st...
[18:21] <Cheri703> Unit193: you wouldn't happen to know anyone who might be headed to columbus on saturday morning, would you?
[18:22] <Unit193> Cheri703: I don't think so
[18:22] <Cheri703> my ride to the airport bailed :(
[19:08] <Derath-Srvr> Sorry to hear that Cheri... really sucks
[19:12] <Cheri703> yeah, I either have to find some other ride, OR the initial guy can take me like 3.5 hours earlier than originally planned -_-
[19:41] <Derath-Srvr> knowing the airports, arriving early wouldn't be a hateful thing
[19:41] <Cheri703> true, but not THAT early, I have over 4.5 hours of layover at JFK after my initial flight
[19:43] <Derath-Srvr> I went through the same thing with my job orientation...
[19:43] <Derath-Srvr> sat at JFK for 5+ hours until my flight left...
[19:48] <thafreak> paultag: you around?
[19:50] <thafreak> anyone in the NEO area, kent state is starting a new "School of Digital Sciences"
[19:50] <thafreak> and it's basically classes from all of the tech related schools and departments
[19:51] <thafreak> kind of a take what you want, get a degree in "digital sciences"
[19:51] <thafreak> are there any high school students at any of the reloco's college shopping?
[19:53] <thafreak> I may end up getting to do a masters thesis on open source...i'm actually kind of excited...odd as that may sound
[19:53]  * Derath-Srvr smirks
[19:53] <Derath-Srvr> plenty of papers out there, from what I've seen...
[19:53] <Derath-Srvr> (i.e. not cheats, but published papers...)
[19:54] <thafreak> and I've never wanted to write a paper before...but this seems like a topic I could actually do
[20:00] <Unit193> Cheri703: Thurs?
[20:00] <Cheri703> as far as I know
[20:01] <Cheri703> was going to discuss different day, but no one got in touch about it...
[20:04] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[20:05] <Unit193> Derath-Srvr: U-H
[20:05] <Derath-Srvr> ah
[20:05] <Unit193> Want to come? We would love to have you!
[20:06] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[20:06] <Derath-Srvr> Way out of the way for me...
[20:06] <Derath-Srvr> Mansfield?
[20:07] <Unit193> Yep
[20:07]  * Unit193 was kidding
[20:07] <Derath-Srvr> LMAO!
[20:07] <Derath-Srvr> I would never make it home... lol
[20:08] <Derath-Srvr> Not to mention it would take me a whole tank of gas to get from home, to work, to UH, back home... lol
[20:08] <Unit193> But we would have another person! Don't take that away from us!
[20:09] <Unit193> ;)
[20:09] <Derath-Srvr> You wanna pay for my gas and mileage?
[20:09] <Derath-Srvr> and money upfront btw :)
[20:12] <Unit193> Lets see, gas is... See you at OLF, Derath-Srvr ;)
[20:27] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[20:27] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah tell me about it... esp with a 70 mile one way commute already...
[20:27] <Derath-Srvr> glad I have a compact car already...
[20:28] <Derath-Srvr> just need a more highway fuel efficient one...
[20:37] <Derath-Srvr> Hmm... what's the best way to swap hard drives? I need to buy a bigger one for my laptop...
[20:39] <Unit193> Derath-Srvr: I like to use clonezilla for that
[20:40] <Derath-Srvr> Will it accomodate growing partitions?
[20:41] <Derath-Srvr> i.e. my home directory is on a separate partition, and that's the one I want to expand...
[20:41] <Cheri703> Derath-Srvr: I think you'd do clonezilla, then gparted
[20:41] <Unit193> Cheri703: +1
[20:41] <Cheri703> clonezilla is awesome
[20:41] <Unit193> Yeah it is!
[20:41] <thafreak> backup, then re-partition and setup lvm, then you can re-size all you want
[20:42] <Derath-Srvr> bah, not using lvm...
[20:42] <Cheri703> clonezilla is pretty painless, just MAKE SURE you do a fsck BEFORE you start doing it
[20:42] <Cheri703> otherwise it'll kick you out
[20:43] <Derath-Srvr> Also, does it support ext4?
[20:43] <Cheri703> gparted is relatively painless as well, and as long as you don't clear the initial drive, you can redo it if it freaks out for some reason :)
[20:43] <Cheri703> yeah
[20:43] <Cheri703> oh, lvm?
[20:43] <Cheri703> dunno about that, clonezilla is happy and fine with it
[20:45] <Derath-Srvr> Well, not using lvm, so I need to clone a drive with 4 ext4 partitions and resize one...
[20:46] <Cheri703> clonezilla to new hdd, then live cd/usb and gparted
[20:46] <Cheri703> to extend partition
[20:49] <Derath-Srvr> Hmm... I think I'll put the old in the usb external, new inside the lappy and do that...
[20:50] <Cheri703> that workd
[20:50] <Cheri703> *works
[20:52] <Derath-Srvr> hmm... wonder if I'll have to reinstall/re-setup grub afterwards...
[20:52] <Cheri703> shouldn't
[20:52] <Cheri703> it will ask if you want to copy the master boot record
[20:55] <Unit193> Tea time
[21:45] <jgould> hmm... Looks like my GPU issue might be resolved..
[21:45] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[21:45] <Derath-Srvr> how so?
[21:46] <jgould> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/727594
[21:48] <jgould> only one way to find out
[21:49] <Derath-Srvr> hehe
[21:49] <jgould> can't tell that I don't mind fooling with something to see if I can make it work
[21:50] <jgould> hell I installed windows 95 on a 386 SX25 (It wasnt' supposed to run on that chipset...)
[21:53] <Derath-Srvr> Well, time to take the long drive home... laters all!
[21:54] <jgould> Later Derath-Srvr
[21:54] <Unit193> Derath-Srvr: Have a good drive!
[22:31] <jgould> I wonder if my using a Development brance CD for 11.04 is also giving me issues....
[22:33] <_bbb> i cant get unity to work on my old thinkpad
[22:33] <_bbb> old radeon not supported by fglrx
[22:33] <jgould> :(
[22:33] <Unit193> Unity Needs 3D support
[22:33] <_bbb> but 3d works with open source driver/mesa
[22:33] <_bbb> i can play 3d games
[22:34] <_bbb> and rotate cube worked with maverick
[22:34] <_bbb> im still messing with it
[22:34] <_bbb> havent put in a whole lot of effort yet
[22:34] <_bbb> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[22:34] <_bbb> always enjoy a good challenge
[22:38] <_bbb> im not sure how wise a decision that was to make the default require 3d but ok
[23:32] <Cheri703> Unit193: like the mansfield ubuntu hour page on fb...
[23:35] <Unit193> It has some usful info on it...
[23:36]  * Cheri703 created an event for thursday and asked for people to give input on what days are better
[23:37] <Unit193> You did?
[23:38] <Cheri703> yep
[23:38] <Cheri703> just now
[23:38] <Unit193> Yep, after I looked at it...
[23:38] <Cheri703> heh
[23:39] <Unit193> I could only find the ja-jp one (The other didn't have a link...)
[23:39] <Cheri703> hmm...k?
[23:41] <canthus13> blargh.
[23:42] <Unit193> 011000100110110001100001011100100110011101101000