/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/03/#ubuntu-us-tn.txt

cyberanger-torwrst: I'm glad it's actually gotten easier to use tor with a number of programs now00:11
cyberanger-toronly apt right now was a trick, and I presume a bug00:12
cyberanger-torlooks similar to something debian was tweaking, hopefully with a patch on the way00:13
linuxman410wrst u here00:15
linuxman410cyberanger-tor you here00:16
cyberanger-torhe was just recently00:16
cyberanger-torand yes, I am here, I think ;-)00:17
linuxman410did the storms do any damage your way00:17
cyberanger-toryes, a great deal00:18
cyberanger-torbut I personally am unaffected00:18
linuxman410cyberanger-tor now anything about the 845ge video00:18
linuxman410intel00:19
cyberanger-toraside from a citywide power outage of about 5 hours, and a more local power outage at work, lasting 10 hours (overlapping with citywide outage)00:19
linuxman410wow is it back on everywhere now00:20
cyberanger-tornot a chip I recognize off the top of my head00:20
cyberanger-torbut intel doesn't change much00:20
cyberanger-torno, we still have some here00:20
cyberanger-torhttp://www.clevelandutilities.com/00:21
cyberanger-torit's shrunk, cable and phone (dsl and cable internet with that) is lagging behind a tiny bit, but more or less at this point, downed poles affecting all three00:22
cyberanger-torlinuxman410: what about that chip?00:22
linuxman410i got ahold of 2 shuttle computers one is p4 2.5 the other is p4 2.4 both have the intel 845ge built on board they will not run ubuntu except for ubuntu 10.04 so i put debian 6 on them and they work fine00:22
linuxman410video00:22
linuxman410so ubuntu must have drop something in 10.10 and 11.04 that they use to support00:23
cyberanger-toror something along those lines, yeah00:24
linuxman410cyberanger i got 11.04 to install but it only had one resolution00:24
linuxman410one00:24
cyberanger-torhrm00:25
linuxman410cyberanger-tor why does debian 6 still support it when ubuntu does not00:25
cyberanger-tordid you have to enable extra repositories on debian 600:25
cyberanger-torcontrib or non-free?00:25
linuxman410no00:25
linuxman410no it was there00:26
cyberanger-torno, contrib and non-free were enabled?00:26
linuxman410cyberanger-tor youtube works but i did not install flash or no non free00:27
cyberanger-torwell, that could be html500:28
cyberanger-torhrm, I'm unsure00:28
linuxman410cyberanger-tor i love debian 6 it is awesome00:28
cyberanger-torcan't disagree on that ;-)00:29
linuxman410i upgraded my regular machine to 11.04 but have to use classic mode no 3d card00:30
linuxman410i tried 2d unity yuck00:30
cyberanger-torunity > /dev/null00:31
linuxman410cyberanger-tor what kind of laptop do you have00:32
cyberanger-torI've got a few machines, Asus EEE PC 2G Surf, HP Pavilion 2742se, Toshiba Satellite of some kind00:33
cyberanger-torI'd have to check the model # to narrow that down00:34
linuxman410cyberanger-tor do u also have a desktop00:34
cyberanger-toryeah, a few00:36
cyberanger-toremachines t522400:36
cyberanger-torand a few others, parts jumbled together00:36
linuxman410cyberanger-tor do all your machines run linux00:36
cyberanger-toryep00:37
cyberanger-torsome better than others00:37
cyberanger-torone is so old, it doesn't run, just walks ;-)00:37
linuxman410cyberanger i use mostly shuttles when it comes to desktops they are little do not take up  alot of room00:41
linuxman410cyberanger-tor i notice debian waits for a while before they do a new release00:43
cyberanger-torsame as ubuntu for LTS releases00:44
cyberanger-toryeah00:44
cyberanger-torso I also use testing to offset that00:44
linuxman410cyberanger-tor i think ubuntu should be a rolling release00:45
linuxman410are you running 11.04 on that asus 2g00:47
linuxman410cyberanger-tor i use fedora on a couple of my p3 laptops works fine they have fedora 14 with 256 ram and wirelesss cards00:49
linuxman410cyberanger-tor have u ever used a dell mini 900:53
cyberanger-tornot really00:56
cyberanger-torI've seen them in use00:56
linuxman410cyberanger-tor would you think they would be a good netbook00:58
cyberanger-torI suppose so, I have a hard time with netbooks personally00:59
cyberanger-torbut I think some models of the mini 9 are nice00:59
linuxman410cyberanger-tor so you would go witha laptop then00:59
cyberanger-toryeah, as a preference01:01
cyberanger-torI would01:02
pace_t_zuluhey linuxman41001:08
pace_t_zulusorry i missed you the other day01:09
linuxman410pace_t_zulu how are you01:09
pace_t_zululinuxman410: i'm well, you?01:09
linuxman410doing ok01:09
linuxman410pace_t_zulu i really like debian 6 alot the only linux os that would run on my shottles with intel 845ge video built in01:10
linuxman410shuttles01:11
cyberanger-torpace_t_zulu: it seems an intresting trend, where our membership seems to favor another setup than ubuntu more and more01:11
pace_t_zululinuxman410: has ubuntu dropped support for that chipset?01:12
linuxman410pace_t_zulu it will work fine in 10.04 but in 10.10 and 11.04 only has one resolution and you cannot change01:13
pace_t_zululinuxman410: would you be interested in filing a bug on launchpad?01:13
linuxman410pace_t_zulu i do not understand why ubuntu dropped support the processors are p4 2.5 and p4 2.3 i thought linux was designed to run on older hardware i guess ubuntu was not01:15
pace_t_zululinuxman410: ubuntu has not dropped support for the p4 as far as i know01:16
pace_t_zululinuxman410: on the basis that it boots and gets any desktop - the processor is supported just fine01:17
linuxman410pace_t_zulu i was talking about the intel 845ge onboard video01:17
linuxman410on the computers01:17
pace_t_zululinuxman410: it might be that ubuntu isn't correctly detecting the video01:17
linuxman410pace_t_zulu i thing the problem is the intel 845ge can only share 8 megs of ram with the video i think that is problem01:19
pace_t_zululinuxman410: are you trying to use unity?01:21
pace_t_zululinuxman410: the problem happens in 10.10 as well...01:21
linuxman410pace_t_zulu i was using classic01:21
linuxman410pace_t_zulu it happens in 10.10 too01:22
pace_t_zululinuxman410: i don't know of any reason why 10.10 would need more video ram than 10.0401:22
pace_t_zuluor 11.04 in classic mode for that matter01:22
linuxman410pace_t_zulu in 10.04 works great01:22
pace_t_zululinuxman410, we should find out what graphics chipset ubuntu sees and what driver it loads01:24
pace_t_zului have a GMA 950 in my mac mini ... not quite the same01:24
linuxman410pace_t_zulu  it does not load one it defaults to something called fbdev01:25
linuxman410but only in 10.10 and 11.0401:26
pace_t_zuluframebuffer device01:26
pace_t_zululinuxman410: that's the issue01:26
linuxman410in 10.04 it loads the drivewr01:27
pace_t_zululinuxman410: have you tried the following command?01:28
pace_t_zulusudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:28
linuxman410pace_t_zulu when i was trying it i tryed that that is why i gave up and put debian 6 on it01:30
pace_t_zululinuxman410: there are a few pointers here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty#Graphics_Cards01:30
pace_t_zululinuxman410: more specifically http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty#Intel_integrated_graphics_cards01:30
linuxman410pace_t_zulu i tried that and ubuntu would not boot after i done it01:32
pace_t_zulusounds like an undocumented issue01:34
linuxman410pace_t_zulu do you use a laptop01:41
linuxman410pace_t_zulu you still here01:45
* cyberanger-tor looks and thinks he sees him01:48
linuxman410cyberanger-tor i see himm but no response01:51
cyberanger-torperhaps an issue came up, distracted him for a moment01:54
cyberanger-torwell, a really long moment perhaps?02:09
cyberanger-torhey vychune02:09
=== cyberanger-tor is now known as cyberanger
vychunewhats up02:18
linuxman410vychune whats up02:21
vychuneWHATS UP DUDE02:22
linuxman410vychune did you ever get that computer running02:22
vychuneno02:22
vychunei need to buy some memory02:23
vychunetherefore i need a job lol02:23
linuxman410vychune memory for what02:23
vychunethats the problem the memory is messed because it was bouncing around02:24
linuxman410vychune how did you find out02:24
linuxman410does it power on now02:24
vychunesame thing was the problem on a job i did02:24
vychuneidk havent powered it up02:25
cyberangerwow, lag has increased a fair deal02:25
linuxman410what does it use 266 ddr02:25
vychunelet me see02:26
vychune400 mhz 333 mhz02:28
vychuneis that what you meant>02:30
vychune?02:30
linuxman410yes02:31
linuxman410vychune i do not have none of that memory if i did i would mail u some02:32
vychuneaww dont worry about it youve done enough02:32
linuxman410i just like helping02:38
linuxman410vychune have u tried debian 6 yet02:39
vychunenope. never had a chance02:39
vychunehave you02:46
wrstlinuxman410: i'm here now what's up? :)02:48
linuxman410yeah i am using it on a shuttle i traded for i traded a 500gb external harddrive for a shuttle computer qwith p4 2.5 processor and 512 megs of ram and a 30 gig harddrive02:49
linuxman410wrst how are you02:49
wrstgood linuxman410 how are things going?02:49
linuxman410doing ok and you02:49
wrstdoing pretty well linuxman41002:49
vychunewrst: whats good02:50
wrstnoting goood vychune but lots of ok ;)02:50
linuxman410wrst the shuttle with the intel 845ge video i put debian 6 on it and it works great02:50
vychuneLOL02:50
wrstcool linuxman410 glad you got it going02:51
wrsti might try debian out on the machines at work02:51
linuxman410wrst ubuntu will only run on it if u use 10.0402:51
linuxman410wrst debian plays youtube videos without flash installed02:53
wrstyeah linuxman410 probably using html in the browser what browser are you using?02:53
linuxman410the one that it installed it was not firefox but something else02:54
wrsticeweasel i think is what they call it, firefox without the branding02:54
wrstprobably firefox 4 then if html5 works that well or i think that is the case02:55
linuxman410yeah iceweasel02:55
linuxman410wrst i was real impressed with debian 6 those guys did real good with this os02:56
linuxman410wrst it flies on that p4 2.502:58
wrstyes debian is good stuff, no fluff02:58
* cyberanger agrees02:59
linuxman410wrst i say we erase all the windows 7 computers in the world and put debian on them03:00
linuxman410wrst we need a world without windows03:00
cyberangerin a world without walls and doors, who needs windows and gates03:01
linuxman410cyberanger i 100percent agree03:02
linuxman410cyberanger are there any other teams out there besides ubuntu teams like debian teams and fedora teams etc03:04
cyberangerfedora has a similar program, more like ubuntu members than locos03:06
cyberangerI think really it's just lugs03:06
linuxman410does debian have lugs03:07
cyberangerlugs, linux user groups03:07
cyberangerdistro agnostic03:07
linuxman410in the famous words of weird al its all about the pentiums03:09
vychunegoing to bed guys03:13
vychuneo\03:13
linuxman410nite nite03:14
linuxman410cyberanger how do i put a sign off message that shows up when i log out of irc like others have03:16
cyberangerlinuxman410: what's your client?03:18
linuxman410xchat03:18
cyberangerlinuxman410: hang on03:23
cyberangertry '/set quit_message <message>'03:32
cyberangerno that didn't do it04:33
cyberangerlol04:33
cyberangerwrst: you might find this cool http://blog.theroux.ca/security/ubuntu-2-step-authentication-with-google-authenticator/05:01
chibihogoshinois maverick much different that natty ?05:58
chibihogoshinothan05:58
XpistosHey guys14:25
Xpistoswrst14:25
wrsthello Xpistos what's happening?14:26
Xpistosnada mooch14:26
vychuneo/15:37
vychunelittle help?15:37
wrstmaybe vychune :)15:41
wrstwhat's up?15:41
vychuneim having a problem with my radio stream15:41
vychunecan you help me out?15:42
vychunewrst?15:54
wrstuhh are you streaming it from you to the internet?15:57
vychuneyes15:58
vychunehttp://vychuneowens.listen2myradio.com/15:58
vychunenow where did he go16:05
wrsthmm that's probablya  cyberanger question vychune because i am clueless :)16:07
vychuneok16:07
Xpistosso vychune, what is the story with listen2myradio?16:45
vychunehey man16:45
vychuneso i start streaming...16:45
vychunethen i turn on my mic....noise out the ying yang16:46
vychuneXpistos16:50
XpistosI meant what is the deal with the site, what do you use it for?16:51
vychuneinternet radio server16:58
vychunei was with them before i went to BlogTalkRadio16:59
=== infocop411 is now known as cyberanger
vychuneITS A COP RUN!!!!!!!18:43
vychuneoh hey cybeyanger lol18:43
cyberangerheh18:46
vychunecan you help me out?18:47
cyberangerdepends on the problem18:51
cyberangerdoesn't hurt to try ;-)18:52
vychuneim having a problem with my radio stream18:56
vychunewhen i turn on my mic to talk it give me noise18:58
vychunewoohoo19:07
cyberangervychune: hrm that seems odd19:12
cyberangerbuilt in mic, external19:12
vychuneexternal19:13
cyberangerwhat's your mixer set for, how close to the speakers?19:13
vychuneno speakers, and mixer19:16
vychune?19:16
cyberangerheadphones then, and run alsamixer19:18
cyberangersince your not using a mixer board, that's the closest thing19:20
vychunerunning alsamixer what now19:21
vychuneand did you wanna hear the stream?19:22
cyberangerare you using headphones?19:26
cyberangernot really able to listen from here19:27
cyberangerwell, right at the moment19:27
vychuneoh ok yes i have a headset with a mic19:29
cyberangeroh, and the mic is built it?19:33
vychuneyes19:44
cyberangerthere is a possibility it's the headset then, mic wire damaged19:45
cyberangerare the mic levels at their max?19:46
vychuneyes19:46
cyberangertry tuning them down slowly, testing as you go19:49
cyberangerbeyond that, best I wait till tonight19:49
wrsthey cyberanger20:21
cyberangerhey wrst20:23
wrstcyberanger: i see debian20:23
cyberangerreally, cool20:23
cyberangerwhere do you see it20:23
wrstcyberanger (debian-tor@swissknife/adak/infocop411) has joined #ubuntu-us-tn20:23
cyberangerfreenode's doing then20:24
cyberangerhowever it could just as easily be me, my tor client, I suppose20:24
cyberangerbut this is natty, the other rig is debian20:24
xTEMPLARxyarr!21:52
xTEMPLARxno no21:53
xTEMPLARxtoo quiet21:53
xTEMPLARx11.04 is odd21:55
xTEMPLARxnot sure if I like it21:55
xTEMPLARxbut too late to go back now21:55
xTEMPLARx:)21:55
* Svpernova09 is avoiding 11.0422:03
Svpernova09>.>22:03
wrstxTEMPLARx: my server crashed want me to set you back up to quassel goodness?22:09
wrstbetter said i crashed it22:22
chibihogoshinohey chris4585 you here ?22:41
chibihogoshinojoin #chroot23:22
chibihogoshinoyeah23:22

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