[00:11] wrst: I'm glad it's actually gotten easier to use tor with a number of programs now [00:12] only apt right now was a trick, and I presume a bug [00:13] looks similar to something debian was tweaking, hopefully with a patch on the way [00:15] wrst u here [00:16] cyberanger-tor you here [00:16] he was just recently [00:17] and yes, I am here, I think ;-) [00:17] did the storms do any damage your way [00:18] yes, a great deal [00:18] but I personally am unaffected [00:18] cyberanger-tor now anything about the 845ge video [00:19] intel [00:19] aside from a citywide power outage of about 5 hours, and a more local power outage at work, lasting 10 hours (overlapping with citywide outage) [00:20] wow is it back on everywhere now [00:20] not a chip I recognize off the top of my head [00:20] but intel doesn't change much [00:20] no, we still have some here [00:21] http://www.clevelandutilities.com/ [00:22] it's shrunk, cable and phone (dsl and cable internet with that) is lagging behind a tiny bit, but more or less at this point, downed poles affecting all three [00:22] linuxman410: what about that chip? [00:22] i got ahold of 2 shuttle computers one is p4 2.5 the other is p4 2.4 both have the intel 845ge built on board they will not run ubuntu except for ubuntu 10.04 so i put debian 6 on them and they work fine [00:22] video [00:23] so ubuntu must have drop something in 10.10 and 11.04 that they use to support [00:24] or something along those lines, yeah [00:24] cyberanger i got 11.04 to install but it only had one resolution [00:24] one [00:25] hrm [00:25] cyberanger-tor why does debian 6 still support it when ubuntu does not [00:25] did you have to enable extra repositories on debian 6 [00:25] contrib or non-free? [00:25] no [00:26] no it was there [00:26] no, contrib and non-free were enabled? [00:27] cyberanger-tor youtube works but i did not install flash or no non free [00:28] well, that could be html5 [00:28] hrm, I'm unsure [00:28] cyberanger-tor i love debian 6 it is awesome [00:29] can't disagree on that ;-) [00:30] i upgraded my regular machine to 11.04 but have to use classic mode no 3d card [00:30] i tried 2d unity yuck [00:31] unity > /dev/null [00:32] cyberanger-tor what kind of laptop do you have [00:33] I've got a few machines, Asus EEE PC 2G Surf, HP Pavilion 2742se, Toshiba Satellite of some kind [00:34] I'd have to check the model # to narrow that down [00:34] cyberanger-tor do u also have a desktop [00:36] yeah, a few [00:36] emachines t5224 [00:36] and a few others, parts jumbled together [00:36] cyberanger-tor do all your machines run linux [00:37] yep [00:37] some better than others [00:37] one is so old, it doesn't run, just walks ;-) [00:41] cyberanger i use mostly shuttles when it comes to desktops they are little do not take up alot of room [00:43] cyberanger-tor i notice debian waits for a while before they do a new release [00:44] same as ubuntu for LTS releases [00:44] yeah [00:44] so I also use testing to offset that [00:45] cyberanger-tor i think ubuntu should be a rolling release [00:47] are you running 11.04 on that asus 2g [00:49] cyberanger-tor i use fedora on a couple of my p3 laptops works fine they have fedora 14 with 256 ram and wirelesss cards [00:53] cyberanger-tor have u ever used a dell mini 9 [00:56] not really [00:56] I've seen them in use [00:58] cyberanger-tor would you think they would be a good netbook [00:59] I suppose so, I have a hard time with netbooks personally [00:59] but I think some models of the mini 9 are nice [00:59] cyberanger-tor so you would go witha laptop then [01:01] yeah, as a preference [01:02] I would [01:08] hey linuxman410 [01:09] sorry i missed you the other day [01:09] pace_t_zulu how are you [01:09] linuxman410: i'm well, you? [01:09] doing ok [01:10] pace_t_zulu i really like debian 6 alot the only linux os that would run on my shottles with intel 845ge video built in [01:11] shuttles [01:11] pace_t_zulu: it seems an intresting trend, where our membership seems to favor another setup than ubuntu more and more [01:12] linuxman410: has ubuntu dropped support for that chipset? [01:13] pace_t_zulu it will work fine in 10.04 but in 10.10 and 11.04 only has one resolution and you cannot change [01:13] linuxman410: would you be interested in filing a bug on launchpad? [01:15] pace_t_zulu i do not understand why ubuntu dropped support the processors are p4 2.5 and p4 2.3 i thought linux was designed to run on older hardware i guess ubuntu was not [01:16] linuxman410: ubuntu has not dropped support for the p4 as far as i know [01:17] linuxman410: on the basis that it boots and gets any desktop - the processor is supported just fine [01:17] pace_t_zulu i was talking about the intel 845ge onboard video [01:17] on the computers [01:17] linuxman410: it might be that ubuntu isn't correctly detecting the video [01:19] pace_t_zulu i thing the problem is the intel 845ge can only share 8 megs of ram with the video i think that is problem [01:21] linuxman410: are you trying to use unity? [01:21] linuxman410: the problem happens in 10.10 as well... [01:21] pace_t_zulu i was using classic [01:22] pace_t_zulu it happens in 10.10 too [01:22] linuxman410: i don't know of any reason why 10.10 would need more video ram than 10.04 [01:22] or 11.04 in classic mode for that matter [01:22] pace_t_zulu in 10.04 works great [01:24] linuxman410, we should find out what graphics chipset ubuntu sees and what driver it loads [01:24] i have a GMA 950 in my mac mini ... not quite the same [01:25] pace_t_zulu it does not load one it defaults to something called fbdev [01:26] but only in 10.10 and 11.04 [01:26] framebuffer device [01:26] linuxman410: that's the issue [01:27] in 10.04 it loads the drivewr [01:28] linuxman410: have you tried the following command? [01:28] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [01:30] pace_t_zulu when i was trying it i tryed that that is why i gave up and put debian 6 on it [01:30] linuxman410: there are a few pointers here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty#Graphics_Cards [01:30] linuxman410: more specifically http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty#Intel_integrated_graphics_cards [01:32] pace_t_zulu i tried that and ubuntu would not boot after i done it [01:34] sounds like an undocumented issue [01:41] pace_t_zulu do you use a laptop [01:45] pace_t_zulu you still here [01:48] * cyberanger-tor looks and thinks he sees him [01:51] cyberanger-tor i see himm but no response [01:54] perhaps an issue came up, distracted him for a moment [02:09] well, a really long moment perhaps? [02:09] hey vychune === cyberanger-tor is now known as cyberanger [02:18] whats up [02:21] vychune whats up [02:22] WHATS UP DUDE [02:22] vychune did you ever get that computer running [02:22] no [02:23] i need to buy some memory [02:23] therefore i need a job lol [02:23] vychune memory for what [02:24] thats the problem the memory is messed because it was bouncing around [02:24] vychune how did you find out [02:24] does it power on now [02:24] same thing was the problem on a job i did [02:25] idk havent powered it up [02:25] wow, lag has increased a fair deal [02:25] what does it use 266 ddr [02:26] let me see [02:28] 400 mhz 333 mhz [02:30] is that what you meant> [02:30] ? [02:31] yes [02:32] vychune i do not have none of that memory if i did i would mail u some [02:32] aww dont worry about it youve done enough [02:38] i just like helping [02:39] vychune have u tried debian 6 yet [02:39] nope. never had a chance [02:46] have you [02:48] linuxman410: i'm here now what's up? :) [02:49] yeah i am using it on a shuttle i traded for i traded a 500gb external harddrive for a shuttle computer qwith p4 2.5 processor and 512 megs of ram and a 30 gig harddrive [02:49] wrst how are you [02:49] good linuxman410 how are things going? [02:49] doing ok and you [02:49] doing pretty well linuxman410 [02:50] wrst: whats good [02:50] noting goood vychune but lots of ok ;) [02:50] wrst the shuttle with the intel 845ge video i put debian 6 on it and it works great [02:50] LOL [02:51] cool linuxman410 glad you got it going [02:51] i might try debian out on the machines at work [02:51] wrst ubuntu will only run on it if u use 10.04 [02:53] wrst debian plays youtube videos without flash installed [02:53] yeah linuxman410 probably using html in the browser what browser are you using? [02:54] the one that it installed it was not firefox but something else [02:54] iceweasel i think is what they call it, firefox without the branding [02:55] probably firefox 4 then if html5 works that well or i think that is the case [02:55] yeah iceweasel [02:56] wrst i was real impressed with debian 6 those guys did real good with this os [02:58] wrst it flies on that p4 2.5 [02:58] yes debian is good stuff, no fluff [02:59] * cyberanger agrees [03:00] wrst i say we erase all the windows 7 computers in the world and put debian on them [03:00] wrst we need a world without windows [03:01] in a world without walls and doors, who needs windows and gates [03:02] cyberanger i 100percent agree [03:04] cyberanger are there any other teams out there besides ubuntu teams like debian teams and fedora teams etc [03:06] fedora has a similar program, more like ubuntu members than locos [03:06] I think really it's just lugs [03:07] does debian have lugs [03:07] lugs, linux user groups [03:07] distro agnostic [03:09] in the famous words of weird al its all about the pentiums [03:13] going to bed guys [03:13] o\ [03:14] nite nite [03:16] cyberanger how do i put a sign off message that shows up when i log out of irc like others have [03:18] linuxman410: what's your client? [03:18] xchat [03:23] linuxman410: hang on [03:32] try '/set quit_message ' [04:33] no that didn't do it [04:33] lol [05:01] wrst: you might find this cool http://blog.theroux.ca/security/ubuntu-2-step-authentication-with-google-authenticator/ [05:58] is maverick much different that natty ? [05:58] than [14:25] Hey guys [14:25] wrst [14:26] hello Xpistos what's happening? [14:26] nada mooch [15:37] o/ [15:37] little help? [15:41] maybe vychune :) [15:41] what's up? [15:41] im having a problem with my radio stream [15:42] can you help me out? [15:54] wrst? [15:57] uhh are you streaming it from you to the internet? [15:58] yes [15:58] http://vychuneowens.listen2myradio.com/ [16:05] now where did he go [16:07] hmm that's probablya cyberanger question vychune because i am clueless :) [16:07] ok [16:45] so vychune, what is the story with listen2myradio? [16:45] hey man [16:45] so i start streaming... [16:46] then i turn on my mic....noise out the ying yang [16:50] Xpistos [16:51] I meant what is the deal with the site, what do you use it for? [16:58] internet radio server [16:59] i was with them before i went to BlogTalkRadio === infocop411 is now known as cyberanger [18:43] ITS A COP RUN!!!!!!! [18:43] oh hey cybeyanger lol [18:46] heh [18:47] can you help me out? [18:51] depends on the problem [18:52] doesn't hurt to try ;-) [18:56] im having a problem with my radio stream [18:58] when i turn on my mic to talk it give me noise [19:07] woohoo [19:12] vychune: hrm that seems odd [19:12] built in mic, external [19:13] external [19:13] what's your mixer set for, how close to the speakers? [19:16] no speakers, and mixer [19:16] ? [19:18] headphones then, and run alsamixer [19:20] since your not using a mixer board, that's the closest thing [19:21] running alsamixer what now [19:22] and did you wanna hear the stream? [19:26] are you using headphones? [19:27] not really able to listen from here [19:27] well, right at the moment [19:29] oh ok yes i have a headset with a mic [19:33] oh, and the mic is built it? [19:44] yes [19:45] there is a possibility it's the headset then, mic wire damaged [19:46] are the mic levels at their max? [19:46] yes [19:49] try tuning them down slowly, testing as you go [19:49] beyond that, best I wait till tonight [20:21] hey cyberanger [20:23] hey wrst [20:23] cyberanger: i see debian [20:23] really, cool [20:23] where do you see it [20:23] cyberanger (debian-tor@swissknife/adak/infocop411) has joined #ubuntu-us-tn [20:24] freenode's doing then [20:24] however it could just as easily be me, my tor client, I suppose [20:24] but this is natty, the other rig is debian [21:52] yarr! [21:53] no no [21:53] too quiet [21:55] 11.04 is odd [21:55] not sure if I like it [21:55] but too late to go back now [21:55] :) [22:03] * Svpernova09 is avoiding 11.04 [22:03] >.> [22:09] xTEMPLARx: my server crashed want me to set you back up to quassel goodness? [22:22] better said i crashed it [22:41] hey chris4585 you here ? [23:22] join #chroot [23:22] yeah