[00:11] <cyberanger-tor> wrst: I'm glad it's actually gotten easier to use tor with a number of programs now
[00:12] <cyberanger-tor> only apt right now was a trick, and I presume a bug
[00:13] <cyberanger-tor> looks similar to something debian was tweaking, hopefully with a patch on the way
[00:15] <linuxman410> wrst u here
[00:16] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor you here
[00:16] <cyberanger-tor> he was just recently
[00:17] <cyberanger-tor> and yes, I am here, I think ;-)
[00:17] <linuxman410> did the storms do any damage your way
[00:18] <cyberanger-tor> yes, a great deal
[00:18] <cyberanger-tor> but I personally am unaffected
[00:18] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor now anything about the 845ge video
[00:19] <linuxman410> intel
[00:19] <cyberanger-tor> aside from a citywide power outage of about 5 hours, and a more local power outage at work, lasting 10 hours (overlapping with citywide outage)
[00:20] <linuxman410> wow is it back on everywhere now
[00:20] <cyberanger-tor> not a chip I recognize off the top of my head
[00:20] <cyberanger-tor> but intel doesn't change much
[00:20] <cyberanger-tor> no, we still have some here
[00:21] <cyberanger-tor> http://www.clevelandutilities.com/
[00:22] <cyberanger-tor> it's shrunk, cable and phone (dsl and cable internet with that) is lagging behind a tiny bit, but more or less at this point, downed poles affecting all three
[00:22] <cyberanger-tor> linuxman410: what about that chip?
[00:22] <linuxman410> i got ahold of 2 shuttle computers one is p4 2.5 the other is p4 2.4 both have the intel 845ge built on board they will not run ubuntu except for ubuntu 10.04 so i put debian 6 on them and they work fine
[00:22] <linuxman410> video
[00:23] <linuxman410> so ubuntu must have drop something in 10.10 and 11.04 that they use to support
[00:24] <cyberanger-tor> or something along those lines, yeah
[00:24] <linuxman410> cyberanger i got 11.04 to install but it only had one resolution
[00:24] <linuxman410> one
[00:25] <cyberanger-tor> hrm
[00:25] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor why does debian 6 still support it when ubuntu does not
[00:25] <cyberanger-tor> did you have to enable extra repositories on debian 6
[00:25] <cyberanger-tor> contrib or non-free?
[00:25] <linuxman410> no
[00:26] <linuxman410> no it was there
[00:26] <cyberanger-tor> no, contrib and non-free were enabled?
[00:27] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor youtube works but i did not install flash or no non free
[00:28] <cyberanger-tor> well, that could be html5
[00:28] <cyberanger-tor> hrm, I'm unsure
[00:28] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor i love debian 6 it is awesome
[00:29] <cyberanger-tor> can't disagree on that ;-)
[00:30] <linuxman410> i upgraded my regular machine to 11.04 but have to use classic mode no 3d card
[00:30] <linuxman410> i tried 2d unity yuck
[00:31] <cyberanger-tor> unity > /dev/null
[00:32] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor what kind of laptop do you have
[00:33] <cyberanger-tor> I've got a few machines, Asus EEE PC 2G Surf, HP Pavilion 2742se, Toshiba Satellite of some kind
[00:34] <cyberanger-tor> I'd have to check the model # to narrow that down
[00:34] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor do u also have a desktop
[00:36] <cyberanger-tor> yeah, a few
[00:36] <cyberanger-tor> emachines t5224
[00:36] <cyberanger-tor> and a few others, parts jumbled together
[00:36] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor do all your machines run linux
[00:37] <cyberanger-tor> yep
[00:37] <cyberanger-tor> some better than others
[00:37] <cyberanger-tor> one is so old, it doesn't run, just walks ;-)
[00:41] <linuxman410> cyberanger i use mostly shuttles when it comes to desktops they are little do not take up  alot of room
[00:43] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor i notice debian waits for a while before they do a new release
[00:44] <cyberanger-tor> same as ubuntu for LTS releases
[00:44] <cyberanger-tor> yeah
[00:44] <cyberanger-tor> so I also use testing to offset that
[00:45] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor i think ubuntu should be a rolling release
[00:47] <linuxman410> are you running 11.04 on that asus 2g
[00:49] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor i use fedora on a couple of my p3 laptops works fine they have fedora 14 with 256 ram and wirelesss cards
[00:53] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor have u ever used a dell mini 9
[00:56] <cyberanger-tor> not really
[00:56] <cyberanger-tor> I've seen them in use
[00:58] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor would you think they would be a good netbook
[00:59] <cyberanger-tor> I suppose so, I have a hard time with netbooks personally
[00:59] <cyberanger-tor> but I think some models of the mini 9 are nice
[00:59] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor so you would go witha laptop then
[01:01] <cyberanger-tor> yeah, as a preference
[01:02] <cyberanger-tor> I would
[01:08] <pace_t_zulu> hey linuxman410
[01:09] <pace_t_zulu> sorry i missed you the other day
[01:09] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu how are you
[01:09] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: i'm well, you?
[01:09] <linuxman410> doing ok
[01:10] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu i really like debian 6 alot the only linux os that would run on my shottles with intel 845ge video built in
[01:11] <linuxman410> shuttles
[01:11] <cyberanger-tor> pace_t_zulu: it seems an intresting trend, where our membership seems to favor another setup than ubuntu more and more
[01:12] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: has ubuntu dropped support for that chipset?
[01:13] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu it will work fine in 10.04 but in 10.10 and 11.04 only has one resolution and you cannot change
[01:13] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: would you be interested in filing a bug on launchpad?
[01:15] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu i do not understand why ubuntu dropped support the processors are p4 2.5 and p4 2.3 i thought linux was designed to run on older hardware i guess ubuntu was not
[01:16] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: ubuntu has not dropped support for the p4 as far as i know
[01:17] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: on the basis that it boots and gets any desktop - the processor is supported just fine
[01:17] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu i was talking about the intel 845ge onboard video
[01:17] <linuxman410> on the computers
[01:17] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: it might be that ubuntu isn't correctly detecting the video
[01:19] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu i thing the problem is the intel 845ge can only share 8 megs of ram with the video i think that is problem
[01:21] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: are you trying to use unity?
[01:21] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: the problem happens in 10.10 as well...
[01:21] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu i was using classic
[01:22] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu it happens in 10.10 too
[01:22] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: i don't know of any reason why 10.10 would need more video ram than 10.04
[01:22] <pace_t_zulu> or 11.04 in classic mode for that matter
[01:22] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu in 10.04 works great
[01:24] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410, we should find out what graphics chipset ubuntu sees and what driver it loads
[01:24] <pace_t_zulu> i have a GMA 950 in my mac mini ... not quite the same
[01:25] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu  it does not load one it defaults to something called fbdev
[01:26] <linuxman410> but only in 10.10 and 11.04
[01:26] <pace_t_zulu> framebuffer device
[01:26] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: that's the issue
[01:27] <linuxman410> in 10.04 it loads the drivewr
[01:28] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: have you tried the following command?
[01:28] <pace_t_zulu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:30] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu when i was trying it i tryed that that is why i gave up and put debian 6 on it
[01:30] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: there are a few pointers here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty#Graphics_Cards
[01:30] <pace_t_zulu> linuxman410: more specifically http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty#Intel_integrated_graphics_cards
[01:32] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu i tried that and ubuntu would not boot after i done it
[01:34] <pace_t_zulu> sounds like an undocumented issue
[01:41] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu do you use a laptop
[01:45] <linuxman410> pace_t_zulu you still here
[01:48]  * cyberanger-tor looks and thinks he sees him
[01:51] <linuxman410> cyberanger-tor i see himm but no response
[01:54] <cyberanger-tor> perhaps an issue came up, distracted him for a moment
[02:09] <cyberanger-tor> well, a really long moment perhaps?
[02:09] <cyberanger-tor> hey vychune
[02:18] <vychune> whats up
[02:21] <linuxman410> vychune whats up
[02:22] <vychune> WHATS UP DUDE
[02:22] <linuxman410> vychune did you ever get that computer running
[02:22] <vychune> no
[02:23] <vychune> i need to buy some memory
[02:23] <vychune> therefore i need a job lol
[02:23] <linuxman410> vychune memory for what
[02:24] <vychune> thats the problem the memory is messed because it was bouncing around
[02:24] <linuxman410> vychune how did you find out
[02:24] <linuxman410> does it power on now
[02:24] <vychune> same thing was the problem on a job i did
[02:25] <vychune> idk havent powered it up
[02:25] <cyberanger> wow, lag has increased a fair deal
[02:25] <linuxman410> what does it use 266 ddr
[02:26] <vychune> let me see
[02:28] <vychune> 400 mhz 333 mhz
[02:30] <vychune> is that what you meant>
[02:30] <vychune> ?
[02:31] <linuxman410> yes
[02:32] <linuxman410> vychune i do not have none of that memory if i did i would mail u some
[02:32] <vychune> aww dont worry about it youve done enough
[02:38] <linuxman410> i just like helping
[02:39] <linuxman410> vychune have u tried debian 6 yet
[02:39] <vychune> nope. never had a chance
[02:46] <vychune> have you
[02:48] <wrst> linuxman410: i'm here now what's up? :)
[02:49] <linuxman410> yeah i am using it on a shuttle i traded for i traded a 500gb external harddrive for a shuttle computer qwith p4 2.5 processor and 512 megs of ram and a 30 gig harddrive
[02:49] <linuxman410> wrst how are you
[02:49] <wrst> good linuxman410 how are things going?
[02:49] <linuxman410> doing ok and you
[02:49] <wrst> doing pretty well linuxman410
[02:50] <vychune> wrst: whats good
[02:50] <wrst> noting goood vychune but lots of ok ;)
[02:50] <linuxman410> wrst the shuttle with the intel 845ge video i put debian 6 on it and it works great
[02:50] <vychune> LOL
[02:51] <wrst> cool linuxman410 glad you got it going
[02:51] <wrst> i might try debian out on the machines at work
[02:51] <linuxman410> wrst ubuntu will only run on it if u use 10.04
[02:53] <linuxman410> wrst debian plays youtube videos without flash installed
[02:53] <wrst> yeah linuxman410 probably using html in the browser what browser are you using?
[02:54] <linuxman410> the one that it installed it was not firefox but something else
[02:54] <wrst> iceweasel i think is what they call it, firefox without the branding
[02:55] <wrst> probably firefox 4 then if html5 works that well or i think that is the case
[02:55] <linuxman410> yeah iceweasel
[02:56] <linuxman410> wrst i was real impressed with debian 6 those guys did real good with this os
[02:58] <linuxman410> wrst it flies on that p4 2.5
[02:58] <wrst> yes debian is good stuff, no fluff
[02:59]  * cyberanger agrees
[03:00] <linuxman410> wrst i say we erase all the windows 7 computers in the world and put debian on them
[03:00] <linuxman410> wrst we need a world without windows
[03:01] <cyberanger> in a world without walls and doors, who needs windows and gates
[03:02] <linuxman410> cyberanger i 100percent agree
[03:04] <linuxman410> cyberanger are there any other teams out there besides ubuntu teams like debian teams and fedora teams etc
[03:06] <cyberanger> fedora has a similar program, more like ubuntu members than locos
[03:06] <cyberanger> I think really it's just lugs
[03:07] <linuxman410> does debian have lugs
[03:07] <cyberanger> lugs, linux user groups
[03:07] <cyberanger> distro agnostic
[03:09] <linuxman410> in the famous words of weird al its all about the pentiums
[03:13] <vychune> going to bed guys
[03:13] <vychune> o\
[03:14] <linuxman410> nite nite
[03:16] <linuxman410> cyberanger how do i put a sign off message that shows up when i log out of irc like others have
[03:18] <cyberanger> linuxman410: what's your client?
[03:18] <linuxman410> xchat
[03:23] <cyberanger> linuxman410: hang on
[03:32] <cyberanger> try '/set quit_message <message>'
[04:33] <cyberanger> no that didn't do it
[04:33] <cyberanger> lol
[05:01] <cyberanger> wrst: you might find this cool http://blog.theroux.ca/security/ubuntu-2-step-authentication-with-google-authenticator/
[05:58] <chibihogoshino> is maverick much different that natty ?
[05:58] <chibihogoshino> than
[14:25] <Xpistos> Hey guys
[14:25] <Xpistos> wrst
[14:26] <wrst> hello Xpistos what's happening?
[14:26] <Xpistos> nada mooch
[15:37] <vychune> o/
[15:37] <vychune> little help?
[15:41] <wrst> maybe vychune :)
[15:41] <wrst> what's up?
[15:41] <vychune> im having a problem with my radio stream
[15:42] <vychune> can you help me out?
[15:54] <vychune> wrst?
[15:57] <wrst> uhh are you streaming it from you to the internet?
[15:58] <vychune> yes
[15:58] <vychune> http://vychuneowens.listen2myradio.com/
[16:05] <vychune> now where did he go
[16:07] <wrst> hmm that's probablya  cyberanger question vychune because i am clueless :)
[16:07] <vychune> ok
[16:45] <Xpistos> so vychune, what is the story with listen2myradio?
[16:45] <vychune> hey man
[16:45] <vychune> so i start streaming...
[16:46] <vychune> then i turn on my mic....noise out the ying yang
[16:50] <vychune> Xpistos
[16:51] <Xpistos> I meant what is the deal with the site, what do you use it for?
[16:58] <vychune> internet radio server
[16:59] <vychune> i was with them before i went to BlogTalkRadio
[18:43] <vychune> ITS A COP RUN!!!!!!!
[18:43] <vychune> oh hey cybeyanger lol
[18:46] <cyberanger> heh
[18:47] <vychune> can you help me out?
[18:51] <cyberanger> depends on the problem
[18:52] <cyberanger> doesn't hurt to try ;-)
[18:56] <vychune> im having a problem with my radio stream
[18:58] <vychune> when i turn on my mic to talk it give me noise
[19:07] <vychune> woohoo
[19:12] <cyberanger> vychune: hrm that seems odd
[19:12] <cyberanger> built in mic, external
[19:13] <vychune> external
[19:13] <cyberanger> what's your mixer set for, how close to the speakers?
[19:16] <vychune> no speakers, and mixer
[19:16] <vychune> ?
[19:18] <cyberanger> headphones then, and run alsamixer
[19:20] <cyberanger> since your not using a mixer board, that's the closest thing
[19:21] <vychune> running alsamixer what now
[19:22] <vychune> and did you wanna hear the stream?
[19:26] <cyberanger> are you using headphones?
[19:27] <cyberanger> not really able to listen from here
[19:27] <cyberanger> well, right at the moment
[19:29] <vychune> oh ok yes i have a headset with a mic
[19:33] <cyberanger> oh, and the mic is built it?
[19:44] <vychune> yes
[19:45] <cyberanger> there is a possibility it's the headset then, mic wire damaged
[19:46] <cyberanger> are the mic levels at their max?
[19:46] <vychune> yes
[19:49] <cyberanger> try tuning them down slowly, testing as you go
[19:49] <cyberanger> beyond that, best I wait till tonight
[20:21] <wrst> hey cyberanger
[20:23] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[20:23] <wrst> cyberanger: i see debian
[20:23] <cyberanger> really, cool
[20:23] <cyberanger> where do you see it
[20:23] <wrst> cyberanger (debian-tor@swissknife/adak/infocop411) has joined #ubuntu-us-tn
[20:24] <cyberanger> freenode's doing then
[20:24] <cyberanger> however it could just as easily be me, my tor client, I suppose
[20:24] <cyberanger> but this is natty, the other rig is debian
[21:52] <xTEMPLARx> yarr!
[21:53] <xTEMPLARx> no no
[21:53] <xTEMPLARx> too quiet
[21:55] <xTEMPLARx> 11.04 is odd
[21:55] <xTEMPLARx> not sure if I like it
[21:55] <xTEMPLARx> but too late to go back now
[21:55] <xTEMPLARx> :)
[22:03]  * Svpernova09 is avoiding 11.04
[22:03] <Svpernova09> >.>
[22:09] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: my server crashed want me to set you back up to quassel goodness?
[22:22] <wrst> better said i crashed it
[22:41] <chibihogoshino> hey chris4585 you here ?
[23:22] <chibihogoshino> join #chroot
[23:22] <chibihogoshino> yeah