/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/03/#ubuntu-us-wa.txt

meonkeyshi guys!04:07
meonkeysthis link in the topic doesn't work for me: http://on.fb.me/ctDyKO04:08
meonkeysit goes to facebook.com, then an error page shows up saying "the content could not be displayed"04:08
meonkeysalso, I got an HTTP 500 error trying to get to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WashingtonTeam/ApprovalApplication04:08
valoriewiki opens right up for me04:09
valorieubuntu has a problem with their wiki -- it is ancient and creaky04:09
valoriefb link doesn't work for me either04:10
valoriehave we met, meonkeys?04:10
meonkeyshere's what I see: http://inky.ws/g/aa04:10
valorieif not, hello04:10
meonkeysvalorie: hi! I don't know.04:10
meonkeysI was at LFNW, I gave a talk on Vim: http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/sessions/beyond-wq-life-changing-vim-plugins04:11
meonkeysI've been an Ubuntu user for a few years now.04:11
valoriedid you come by the loco table?04:11
valorieKey Details04:11
valorie    Date Established - (Thursday 19 October, 2006)04:11
valorie    Team Contact - Chuck West <chuck@olylug.org>04:11
valorie    Membership - 28 as of August 201004:11
valorie    Mailing List - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-wa04:11
valorie    Laundpad Team - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-washington04:11
valorie    Forums - http://washington.ubuntuforums.org04:11
valorie    IRC - #ubuntu-us-wa on irc.freenode.net:6667 04:11
Lancelothey valorie 04:11
valoriefrom the wiki page04:11
meonkeysNo, I didn't come by the loco table04:12
valoriehi Lancelot04:12
meonkeysvalorie: yep, saw that on the page too, thanks.04:12
Lancelothow'd sunday go?04:12
valoriehow did your exams go?04:12
Lancelotit was alright04:12
valorieit was much slower04:12
LancelotI'll get my mark on wednesday04:12
valoriebut I got to spend quite a bit of time with two beginners04:12
valorieshowing them IRC, and such04:12
Lancelotyeah04:12
valoriewhich was cool04:12
Lancelotthat's nice04:12
valorieburned quite a few more CDs04:12
Lancelotdid you go to any of the talks?04:13
valoriegave out maybe 30 or 4004:13
valorieone on Sat.04:13
valorieexcellent04:13
valoriethe EFF/ACLU talk04:13
LancelotI showed up for the last half of it04:13
Lancelotlost track of time04:13
valorieI was late as well04:13
valoriethat table was BUSY!04:13
Lancelotno kidding04:14
valorietoo bad you didn't stop by, meonkeys04:14
Lancelotit was a pretty popular talk04:14
Lancelotscore04:14
LancelotI discovered I have a linux mint image04:15
valorieI'm so glad I discovered multisystem USB04:17
valorieused that so often this weekend!04:17
Lancelotyeah04:17
Lancelotit looks pretty good04:17
valorieand burned at least 5 USBs for people04:17
valoriesuper easy to use04:17
valorieand fast, fast, fast04:17
meonkeysvalorie: yep. I didn't spend much time in the expo hall, just to register, then later to hang at the FSF booth during the raffle.04:17
Lancelotnice04:17
Lancelotoh, check this out: http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,226435/printable.html04:18
valorieyou were right close!04:18
valorie10 feet away04:18
valorielol04:18
valorieheh04:19
Lancelot:p04:19
valoriesounds interesting, Lancelot04:19
valorieexcept it ain't KDE04:19
valorieso, not so interesting to ME04:20
Lancelot...04:20
valorie:-)04:20
Lancelotthat's just an example04:20
valorieright04:20
Lancelotyou really like KDE don't you?04:20
meonkeysvalorie: aha, linda just approved me; now I can see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WashingtonTeam/ApprovalApplication04:29
valorieI love KDE04:30
valorieI don't dislike Gnome, or Unity04:30
valorieI just much prefer KDE04:31
valorieand I love the kde community04:31
valorieas well as the ubuntu community04:31
Lancelotit's alright04:31
meonkeysanyone know if it's possible to use the GNOME Shell instead of Unity in Natty?04:41
valorieyes04:42
meonkeyscool.04:42
valorieson was trying it out04:42
meonkeysCJ Collier, are you in here?04:45
Lancelotfrom what I've seen so far Unity is failing04:45
Lancelotreally really hard04:45
meonkeysfailing how? people don't want it?04:46
valorieI dunno -- people resist change04:46
valoriegnome 3 is basically the same thing as unity04:46
meonkeysJack Wallen very much prefers the gnome shell: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/229104:47
Lancelotthe changes in gnome 3 are so stupid04:47
meonkeysthe one thing that really made me want the GNOME shell instead of unity was the lack of a run dialog in Unity04:47
meonkeysI use the run dialog all the time.04:47
Lancelotthey're the perfect example of why liberal arts majors should work in coffee shops IMO04:47
LancelotI mean, basic functionality is not something you mess with04:47
Lancelotchanging something for the sake of changing it is useless04:48
meonkeysI think they're changing it to try and improve it04:48
meonkeys(the user interface, that is)04:48
Lancelothow is removing the minimize and maximize buttons an improvement?04:49
LancelotI use those all the time04:49
LancelotI don't even think about it04:49
meonkeysI don't, so, I guess that would be an improvement for me. :)04:49
meonkeysI usually just hit F11 to maximize or un-maximize, and drag window corners to resize.04:50
meonkeysThe close button seems like a waste of space too, Alt-F4 works great. :)04:50
meonkeysI guess I just prefer less mouse, more keyboard.04:50
Lancelotthe work I do requires a mouse04:51
Lancelotdesign stuff04:51
Lancelotso I use it a fair bit04:51
Lanceloteven with only a keyboard I use those buttons04:51
meonkeysah, gotcha.04:51
meonkeysSay, do you use Inkscape much?04:51
Lancelotnever heard of it04:52
Lancelotby design I mean like cad04:52
Lancelotthings like CAD*04:52
meonkeysah, ok04:52
meonkeysyeah, Inkscape is mainly for vector graphics.04:52
meonkeysI did a little bit of CAD with qcad. That was kinda fun.04:53
LancelotI see04:53
LancelotI've been looking for a good linux program04:53
Lancelotfreecad looks alright04:53
meonkeysBut then my wife showed me up by designing our entire bathroom remodel in SketchUp04:53
Lancelotnow that I have more free time I'll be able to try more04:54
Lanceloteww04:54
Lancelotgoogle...04:54
meonkeyseww what?04:54
Lanceloteh, just a personal thing04:55
Lancelotmoving on04:55
meonkeys*yawn*04:56
meonkeysbye all, nice "meeting" you! Time to watch Obama's standup at the WHCA dinner.04:56
Lancelothave fun04:57
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Lancelotvalorie: are there any other conferences that happen around washington?05:28
LancelotI just looked up linuxcon, but admission is 100 dollars at student pricing05:29
valorienot that I know of05:30
valorieI go down to OSCON, but not to anything but the free stuff05:30
valorieand staff the booth there05:31
valorieand attend CLS the weekend before05:31
Lancelothow long of a drive is that?05:31
valoriewhich is an unconference, and free05:31
valoriebut not just linux05:31
valoriethat's in Portland05:31
Lancelothmm05:31
valoriethere is some other stuff in Portland, but I don't know about free05:31
valorieportland OR is 3 hours drive for me05:31
Lancelotouch06:37
Lancelotwell then this seems alright06:40
Lancelotso you only get to go to the expo hall for free?06:42
valoriethe expo hall, lightning talks, and Bofs07:04
valorieI had a lot of fun -- some of my KDE peeps were there too07:04
valoriespeaking07:04
valorieso I had people to hang out with07:04
Lancelotsounds okay07:15
LancelotI don't think I can drive that far though07:15
meonkeyswhat about Open Source Bridge? I've heard that's awesome.15:42
valorieI haven't gone, so I don't know22:19
valoriei have heard good things, yes22:19
altharathe link for the release party pictures has probably expired23:44
altharaour facebook group is scheudled to be archived23:46
altharaI just contacted Paul to see if he can handle it or add me as an admin ont he group page.23:52
althara*on the23:52
valoriei miss paul23:57

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