[04:07] hi guys! [04:08] this link in the topic doesn't work for me: http://on.fb.me/ctDyKO [04:08] it goes to facebook.com, then an error page shows up saying "the content could not be displayed" [04:08] also, I got an HTTP 500 error trying to get to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WashingtonTeam/ApprovalApplication [04:09] wiki opens right up for me [04:09] ubuntu has a problem with their wiki -- it is ancient and creaky [04:10] fb link doesn't work for me either [04:10] have we met, meonkeys? [04:10] here's what I see: http://inky.ws/g/aa [04:10] if not, hello [04:10] valorie: hi! I don't know. [04:11] I was at LFNW, I gave a talk on Vim: http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/sessions/beyond-wq-life-changing-vim-plugins [04:11] I've been an Ubuntu user for a few years now. [04:11] did you come by the loco table? [04:11] Key Details [04:11] Date Established - (Thursday 19 October, 2006) [04:11] Team Contact - Chuck West [04:11] Membership - 28 as of August 2010 [04:11] Mailing List - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-wa [04:11] Laundpad Team - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-washington [04:11] Forums - http://washington.ubuntuforums.org [04:11] IRC - #ubuntu-us-wa on irc.freenode.net:6667 [04:11] hey valorie [04:11] from the wiki page [04:12] No, I didn't come by the loco table [04:12] hi Lancelot [04:12] valorie: yep, saw that on the page too, thanks. [04:12] how'd sunday go? [04:12] how did your exams go? [04:12] it was alright [04:12] it was much slower [04:12] I'll get my mark on wednesday [04:12] but I got to spend quite a bit of time with two beginners [04:12] showing them IRC, and such [04:12] yeah [04:12] which was cool [04:12] that's nice [04:12] burned quite a few more CDs [04:13] did you go to any of the talks? [04:13] gave out maybe 30 or 40 [04:13] one on Sat. [04:13] excellent [04:13] the EFF/ACLU talk [04:13] I showed up for the last half of it [04:13] lost track of time [04:13] I was late as well [04:13] that table was BUSY! [04:14] no kidding [04:14] too bad you didn't stop by, meonkeys [04:14] it was a pretty popular talk [04:14] score [04:15] I discovered I have a linux mint image [04:17] I'm so glad I discovered multisystem USB [04:17] used that so often this weekend! [04:17] yeah [04:17] it looks pretty good [04:17] and burned at least 5 USBs for people [04:17] super easy to use [04:17] and fast, fast, fast [04:17] valorie: yep. I didn't spend much time in the expo hall, just to register, then later to hang at the FSF booth during the raffle. [04:17] nice [04:18] oh, check this out: http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,226435/printable.html [04:18] you were right close! [04:18] 10 feet away [04:18] lol [04:19] heh [04:19] :p [04:19] sounds interesting, Lancelot [04:19] except it ain't KDE [04:20] so, not so interesting to ME [04:20] ... [04:20] :-) [04:20] that's just an example [04:20] right [04:20] you really like KDE don't you? [04:29] valorie: aha, linda just approved me; now I can see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WashingtonTeam/ApprovalApplication [04:30] I love KDE [04:30] I don't dislike Gnome, or Unity [04:31] I just much prefer KDE [04:31] and I love the kde community [04:31] as well as the ubuntu community [04:31] it's alright [04:41] anyone know if it's possible to use the GNOME Shell instead of Unity in Natty? [04:42] yes [04:42] cool. [04:42] son was trying it out [04:45] CJ Collier, are you in here? [04:45] from what I've seen so far Unity is failing [04:45] really really hard [04:46] failing how? people don't want it? [04:46] I dunno -- people resist change [04:46] gnome 3 is basically the same thing as unity [04:47] Jack Wallen very much prefers the gnome shell: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291 [04:47] the changes in gnome 3 are so stupid [04:47] the one thing that really made me want the GNOME shell instead of unity was the lack of a run dialog in Unity [04:47] I use the run dialog all the time. [04:47] they're the perfect example of why liberal arts majors should work in coffee shops IMO [04:47] I mean, basic functionality is not something you mess with [04:48] changing something for the sake of changing it is useless [04:48] I think they're changing it to try and improve it [04:48] (the user interface, that is) [04:49] how is removing the minimize and maximize buttons an improvement? [04:49] I use those all the time [04:49] I don't even think about it [04:49] I don't, so, I guess that would be an improvement for me. :) [04:50] I usually just hit F11 to maximize or un-maximize, and drag window corners to resize. [04:50] The close button seems like a waste of space too, Alt-F4 works great. :) [04:50] I guess I just prefer less mouse, more keyboard. [04:51] the work I do requires a mouse [04:51] design stuff [04:51] so I use it a fair bit [04:51] even with only a keyboard I use those buttons [04:51] ah, gotcha. [04:51] Say, do you use Inkscape much? [04:52] never heard of it [04:52] by design I mean like cad [04:52] things like CAD* [04:52] ah, ok [04:52] yeah, Inkscape is mainly for vector graphics. [04:53] I did a little bit of CAD with qcad. That was kinda fun. [04:53] I see [04:53] I've been looking for a good linux program [04:53] freecad looks alright [04:53] But then my wife showed me up by designing our entire bathroom remodel in SketchUp [04:54] now that I have more free time I'll be able to try more [04:54] eww [04:54] google... [04:54] eww what? [04:55] eh, just a personal thing [04:55] moving on [04:56] *yawn* [04:56] bye all, nice "meeting" you! Time to watch Obama's standup at the WHCA dinner. [04:57] have fun === zenrox_ is now known as zenrox [05:28] valorie: are there any other conferences that happen around washington? [05:29] I just looked up linuxcon, but admission is 100 dollars at student pricing [05:30] not that I know of [05:30] I go down to OSCON, but not to anything but the free stuff [05:31] and staff the booth there [05:31] and attend CLS the weekend before [05:31] how long of a drive is that? [05:31] which is an unconference, and free [05:31] but not just linux [05:31] that's in Portland [05:31] hmm [05:31] there is some other stuff in Portland, but I don't know about free [05:31] portland OR is 3 hours drive for me [06:37] ouch [06:40] well then this seems alright [06:42] so you only get to go to the expo hall for free? [07:04] the expo hall, lightning talks, and Bofs [07:04] I had a lot of fun -- some of my KDE peeps were there too [07:04] speaking [07:04] so I had people to hang out with [07:15] sounds okay [07:15] I don't think I can drive that far though [15:42] what about Open Source Bridge? I've heard that's awesome. [22:19] I haven't gone, so I don't know [22:19] i have heard good things, yes [23:44] the link for the release party pictures has probably expired [23:46] our facebook group is scheudled to be archived [23:52] I just contacted Paul to see if he can handle it or add me as an admin ont he group page. [23:52] *on the [23:57] i miss paul