[00:00] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: I've created the dir /mnt/host_fs
[00:00] <cache_surplus> k
[00:00] <bear_> FHtrain,  so ? how did it go?
[00:00] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: are you doing a headless type solution? multiple users to log into it over the network? or what..
[00:00] <ymasory> can the natty launcher be made to stay out permanently?
[00:00] <UserX7> how can i 'sort' a text file alphabetically? first letter of each line.
[00:01] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: I've set up a shared folder through the vbox menu sytem.. can see it in the bottom of the window when I hover over the icon.. but I get those errors when I try to mount it to /mnt/host_fs
[00:01] <vanguard> My USB-Speakers are dead after a suspend to RAM. I check all volume bars and mixers, and the USB interface is selected everywhere. What can I do?
[00:01] <LjL> UserX7: command "sort"
[00:01] <DasEi> ymasory: you mean just default gnome ? yes.. should be a factoid, in between
[00:01] <html_inprogress> search UserX7,
[00:01] <FHtrain> bear_ sorry i meant i had already updated and restarted when this problem showed up
[00:01] <vanguard> UserX7: sort textfile > sortedfile
[00:01] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: headless?  I have no idea what that means.. lol
[00:01] <ymasory> DasEi: i mean in unity
[00:01] <vanguard> UserX7: or open in vim and type :sort
[00:01] <irule> I have an ubuntu 11.04 installation on the choose keyboard part, with the grayed out forward button, I chose to download updates and install so it may do somewthing, but its been a while since I dont see much progress other then moving HD lights, should I wait or reboot?
[00:01] <FHtrain> bear_, i just did fresh install
[00:01] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: with out a monitor, and accessable across the net, its an industry standard term ;)
[00:02] <DasEi> ymasory: you just want gnome, but no unity , or do I get you wrong ?
[00:02] <UserX7> vanguard: and in emacs? :-)
[00:02] <vanguard> UserX7: no clue
[00:02] <vanguard> UserX7: but there has to be something
[00:02] <bear_> just keep an eye out to see if there aere other ppl with the same problem
[00:02] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: oh.. nope.. not trying to do that.. just want to be able to share files from a folder in windows.. into Ununtu in my vbox VM..
[00:03] <UserX7> sort won't overwrite the contents of a file? e.g. sort foo.txt > foo.txt
[00:03] <bear_> FHtrain,  so ? how did it go?
[00:03] <Blackcamaro8> Is there any way I can boot Ubuntu into a minimal-resources command-line mode? The computer it's on is amazing, but I need minimal resources to be used while I run a game server that's command-line operable. Any suggestions?
[00:03] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: i have a similar set up on my laptop for smb and vbox stuff. im trying to remember the syntax... ill look around my history files. bbiab
[00:04] <ymasory> DasEi: i'm in unity. i'd like for the bar on the left to not hide itself when a window is maximized
[00:04] <bear_> FHtrain,  of what os?
[00:04] <KNUBBIG> Blackcamaro8: what gameserver you want to run that needs that much ressources? Maybe, if you just want to run servers, install the server edition?
[00:04] <FHtrain> bear_, what i meant was i already did fresh install and update and restart when that problem showed up...but i guess i'll try again
[00:04] <DasEi> Blackcamaro8: dependening on needed services, just log out desktop or even use another runlevel
[00:04] <FHtrain> bear_ 11.04
[00:05] <Blackcamaro8> KNUBBIG: It's a Minecraft game server-- I want more resources to be dedicated to the server. I understand that I could install a server-edition, but I use the computer as a normal desktop when the server is unnecessary.
[00:05] <DasEi> ymasory: ic, I'm not fit in unity, sry, can't help there
[00:05] <Blackcamaro8> DasEi: What do you mean?
[00:05] <bear_> oh, thats a really buggy system  , but your wanting to do so then go for it
[00:06] <DasEi> Blackcamaro8: you can stop the desktop, if you  just need a commandline, saving ressources
[00:06] <Blackcamaro8> DasEi: I know I can Ctrl+Alt+F1, and drop to a command-line, but I want the lowest possible amount of resources to be used by other things.
[00:06] <DasEi> !runlevel
[00:06] <KNUBBIG> Blackcamaro8: ah okay, I think there should be some options for booting but I don't know exactly
[00:06] <bear_> whats you specs?
[00:06] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: sudo mount -t vboxsf DEVICE MOUNT_POINT
[00:06] <Blackcamaro8> DasEi: Being completely honest, I've been using Linux for about four years, and understand it immensely, but I have no idea what that means.
[00:07] <Blackcamaro8> DasEi: The Runlevel thing, no the command-line thing.
[00:07] <DasEi> Blackcamaro8: might be some friggle then, as many services, like networking, depend on other ones
[00:07] <Blackcamaro8> not*
[00:07] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: But that gives me: /sbin/mount.vboxsf: mounting failed with the error: No such device ... even though I can see the shared folder in the bottom of the vbox window.. ugh
[00:07] <html_inprogress> lol
[00:07] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: thats not my syntax, thats the default explanation lol
[00:08] <DasEi> Blackcamaro8: you can go to init 1, for instance, and start network manually there
[00:08] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: yeah... I know.. mine is sudo mount -t vboxfs shared_device /mnt/host_fs
[00:08] <Arphetic> were the devs trying to be funny when they released ubuntu 11.04?
[00:08] <DasEi> Blackcamaro8: (logs you out !) sudo init 1 , there choose netroot
[00:08] <Arphetic> cause Natty is merely a bad joke
[00:09] <RavenHursT> Arphetic: Starting to think that myself..
[00:09] <xangua> !ot | Arphetic
[00:09] <Arphetic> Did they break OpenGL, on purpose?
[00:09] <Arphetic> Did they break the tray on purpose?
[00:10] <LjL> Arphetic: do you have a support question? this channel is not for rants, no matter how disappointed you may be, sorry
[00:10] <KNUBBIG> Arphetic: /j #ubuntu-devel and ask there :p
[00:10] <Arphetic> My question is, will OpenGL and the tray ever work again?
[00:10] <Arphetic> cause my programms are disappearing this way
[00:10] <genewitch> well, i can't get 11.04 to work on my computer at all, even in vbox
[00:10] <Arphetic> lucky you
[00:11] <LjL> Arphetic: i don't know, i think the old "tray" is being phased out, but anyway keep in mind you can still use classic GNOME (for now at least) if you prefer
[00:11] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: since your in cmdline, may i suggest you check out this howto: http://www.howtoforge.com/vboxheadless-running-virtual-machines-with-virtualbox-2.0-on-a-headless-ubuntu-8.04-server  , the syntax is priceless, however, its an older version of vbox, BUT it will give you a few clues as to what else you may have forgotten, ok?
[00:11] <DasEi> Arphetic: on my gnome it's working great, but you can still choose any surface you like...
[00:11] <zakwilson> I'm having tray problems too. Skype doesn't appear, to be specific. Some other programs that use the tray do still work.
[00:11] <Arphetic> its not like gnome fixes the problem
[00:11] <bear_> genewitch,  whats your hardware?
[00:11] <vertical> join #django
[00:11] <vertical> ls
[00:12] <genewitch> bear_: quadcore athlon II 4 gigs of ram 1TB partition for ubuntu
[00:12] <bear_> gmone fixes what?
[00:12] <Arphetic> I tried installing gnome3, created an ever bigger mess , took me 3 days to fix it
[00:12] <RavenHursT> cache_surplus: alright.. I'll take a look.. thnx
[00:12] <cache_surplus> np
[00:13] <bear_> OO) wow !   genewitch ,
[00:13] <icostisanu> hello
[00:13] <genewitch> bear_: yeah the installer and liveusb work but it won't install, and the new GUI doesn't work in vbox
[00:13] <ParkerR> Hello
[00:13] <genewitch> rather, it installs, but goes straight to busybox ash prompt
[00:14] <jenkinSear> zakwilson: you can whitelist the tray icons
[00:14] <ParkerR> I installed XP and now when I upfate grub it does not find it. Any ideas?
[00:14] <icostisanu> my 11.04 doesn't detect when my wi-fi adapter is switched on, could you help to solve this issue?
[00:14] <jenkinSear> zakwilsion: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-re-enable-notification-area.html
[00:14] <ParkerR> *update
[00:14] <Axlin> zakwilson: canonical decided to enforce a system tray "whitelist," blocking any applications from having a systray icon if they're not whitelisted. to allow all apps to have a whitelist, run this and then log out and log back in: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[00:14] <fission6> any html to pdf command line tools?
[00:14] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: also, here is the manual, good reading :) http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads#manual
[00:14] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[00:14] <zakwilson> jenkinSear and Axlin: thanks for the info. I won't go on a long off-topic rant here, but I dislike that decision.
[00:15] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, I'll check
[00:15] <KNUBBIG> fission6: found this: http://www.tufat.com/script19.htm
[00:15] <Axlin> zakwilson: yeah, i *despise* it myself
[00:15] <DasEi> ParkerR: try sudo os-prober
[00:15] <czesiu> i install something and now in desktop i have croos and i havent close and minimalize button in window
[00:15] <ParkerR> parker@parker-G60VX:~$ sudo os-prober
[00:15] <ParkerR> [sudo] password for parker:
[00:15] <ParkerR> /dev/sda1:Windows Recovery Environment (loader):Windows:chain
[00:15] <ParkerR> /dev/sda2:Windows 7 (loader):Windows1:chain
[00:15] <ParkerR> parker@parker-G60VX:~$
[00:15] <FloodBot1> ParkerR: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <ParkerR> Sorry
[00:15] <cache_surplus> RavenHursT: opps. http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.0.6/UserManual.pdf
[00:15] <bear_> genewitch,  did you update grub?
[00:15] <RavenHursT> thnx cache_surplus
[00:15] <DasEi> Ah, Jordan_U, haven't seen
[00:16] <Arphetic> Thanks axisys
[00:16] <czesiu> do anybody help e?
[00:16] <Arphetic> Axlin, *
[00:16] <bear_> yes?
[00:16] <ParkerR> Here's the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/602538/
[00:16] <Axlin> oh and zakwilson, just so you know, some apps on startup may not show up in the systray if they're loaded before unity finishes loading up, so you'd have to close it and restart it. i'm having this problem with keepass
[00:16] <bear_> czesiu, yes?
[00:17] <zakwilson> Axlin: I'm not using Unity
[00:17] <cache_surplus> np RavenHursT
[00:17] <icostisanu> anyone can help with wi-fi troublesoot?!
[00:17] <termitor> hello, how to pass grub in text mode ? i'm have "out of range" in screen
[00:17] <bear_> i can help ppl , if they need IT .......
[00:17] <ParkerR> And I tried adding a custom entry with Grub customizer but it doesn't show there either
[00:18] <ParkerR> Technically it is burg if it makes a difference
[00:18] <icostisanu> bear_ i just installed 11.04 on my vaio
[00:18] <cdavis> My touchpad on my thiknpad stops working
[00:18] <ParkerR> I can try burg-manager. I just find buc a little iffy
[00:18] <DasEi> termitor: edit /etc/default/grub as root, then sudo update-grub, can use a lower resolution and maybe no splash
[00:18] <e2096> Hi,  can somebody tell me if there is a way to boot up ubuntu so that it does not try to generating the locales?
[00:19] <icostisanu> and ubuntu doesn't detect whether my the wi-fi adapter is on or off, it shows permanently off
[00:19] <zakwilson> Making the change in jenkinSear's link and restarting both notification-area and skype did not result in the icon showing up.
[00:19] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: I don't recommend using BURG. It's a one person fork that hasn't had a commit in 6 months (possibly abandoned).
[00:19] <bear_> icostisanu,  whats your specs?
[00:19] <icostisanu> i3/4gb ram/500hdd
[00:19] <icostisanu> if this is what you mean
[00:19] <termitor> DasEi, system don't boot, i have no cd or other tools for use live cd
[00:19] <cdavis> My touchpad on my thiknpad stops working, is there a way to restart it so I can work on figuring out why it stops?
[00:19] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, It works just fine. Neither grub nor burg see XP though
[00:20] <czesiu> and what?
[00:20] <Arphetic> it failed Axlin
[00:20] <ParkerR> I like the look
[00:20] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: Standard GRUB2 allows theming, though admitedly does not support all of the theming options of BURG.
[00:20] <termitor> DasEi, just the shortcut for text mode in grub , give me help i'm need
[00:20] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, Mind if I PM?
[00:20] <Logan_> !pm | ParkerR
[00:20] <ParkerR> Ok
[00:20] <DasEi> termitor: can you boot safemode ?
[00:21] <bear_> icostisanu,  whats your hardware ?
[00:21] <DasEi> termitor: press left shift when grub starts to lood, try recoverymode, usually second entry
[00:21] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: I'd prefer to stay in-channel.
[00:21] <DasEi> load*
[00:21] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: Since os-prober is finding Windows, GRUB2 should have no problem adding an entry for it.
[00:22] <icostisanu> bear_ you mean wi-fi hardware only?
[00:22] <genewitch> bear_: update grub? isn't the installer supposed to update if i am connected to the internet?
[00:22] <termitor> DasEi, hum , no boot , screen "out of range" ,
[00:22] <icostisanu> bear_: Atheros AR9285
[00:22] <Arphetic> does unity use compiz?
[00:22] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, Before I abandon burg I'm going to try burg-manager
[00:23] <ParkerR> Just a sec
[00:23] <kowen> Arphetic: Yes.
[00:23] <DasEi> termitor: so you get just no picture, but a safetywarning from your monitor ? you will need another medium aka usb or cd then
[00:23] <termitor> DasEi, dont have :c
[00:23] <kowen> It has its own plugin for Compiz, which lets you do some minor adjustments in ccsm.
[00:23] <Arphetic> does ubuntu stop with KDE as well?
[00:23] <kowen> (For Unity 3D, at least.)
[00:24] <bollullera> hello
[00:24] <DasEi> termitor: which OS are you currently talking from ? ssh on the broken one installed ?
[00:24] <Strav> He. I'm currently fighthing against permissions on my samba share, some help about it would be real nice.  On server side, fstab entry for the drive (which I share) is: UUID=my_drive_uuid /media/raid auto defaults 0 3 rw,user,exec,umask=000 ... On the client side, it's mostly ending the same way except I specify that this is a smbfs. Now on the smb.conf, my share is defined with: create mask = 0775, writeable=yes, browseable = yes.
[00:24] <xcyclist> Got my video chipsets on this one (top item):  http://paste.ubuntu.com/602541/
[00:24] <termitor> DasEi, other pc , no cd reader on
[00:25] <nerdy_kid> apt.ubuntu.com links such as this one: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/brukkon  give my a "You dont seem to be running Ubuntu" error.  I am using Chrome, anyone have any ideas?
[00:25] <DasEi> termitor: which OS are you currently talking from ? ssh on the broken one installed ? please answer to questions :)
[00:25] <html_inprogress> genewitch,  yes  last i checked, ( a year ago)
[00:25] <Strav> Note: The user I use to login is in the global write list. Anything I could try to see what's wrong? (just to specify: from the server side I can write on the partition without any problem, on the client's side however, I need to invoke sudo)
[00:26] <KNUBBIG> Strav: what exactly is your problem?
[00:26] <Arphetic> why did natty remove ubuntu tweak , and install crap i didnt want :/
[00:26] <html_inprogress> icostisanu,  it standard to just give that info ,
[00:27] <bazhang> Arphetic, ubuntu-tweak, the 3rd party tool?
[00:27] <jep> hey guys, my ubuntu boot isn't detecting my pcix ethernet card. when i do 'lshw -C network', it as well as the board's nic show up as 'DISABLED'. I do a 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up' (eth1 is the pcix nic), but still nothing and rebooting makes it disabled again. /etc/network/interfaces only contained the two 'lo' entries so i added ones for eth0 and eth1 (before reboot). Any ideas? I've been out
[00:27] <jep> for like a week now.
[00:27] <Strav> KNUBBIG: as I just wrote: I cannot write on the partition from the client side unless I use sudo.
[00:27] <Arphetic> yes
[00:27] <bazhang> Arphetic, its 3rd party, was never a part of ubuntu
[00:27] <KNUBBIG> Strav: sorry didn't spot that
[00:27] <Arphetic> i know
[00:27] <Arphetic> thats why i wonder why they would remove it
[00:28] <Strav> KNUBBIG: it's on the second part of my msg, just above your first reply)
[00:28] <icostisanu> PROBLEM on 11.04 / ubuntu don't recognize when my wi-fi adapter is ON. I have Vaio Y series
[00:28] <kowen> Tweak has its own PPA, doesn't it?
[00:28] <bazhang> Arphetic, you need to clarify, what you are saying does not make sense
[00:28] <icostisanu> any ideas?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> Arphetic: Ubuntu will not stop using GNOME, (and GNOME shell will be available in 11.11), nor will Kubuntu stop using KDE.
[00:28] <bazhang> Jordan_U, in 11.10 as well
[00:28] <habriel> hello i am installing mrtg and i have it problem Use of uninitialized value $first in hash element at /usr/bin/indexmaker line 353
[00:29] <Arphetic> why did natty remove ubuntu tweak , and install crap i didnt want :/ (banshee and some other programms)
[00:29] <KNUBBIG> Strav: how can you use sudo to write? Do you invoke nautilus with sudo? Or do you copy to the samba filesystem via sudo?
[00:29] <nerdy_kid> never mind, its a bug apparently...
[00:29] <Arphetic> what is not understandable about this>?
[00:29] <Arphetic> i had tweak installed
[00:29] <Arphetic> i upgrade
[00:29] <Arphetic> tweak gone
[00:29] <FloodBot1> Arphetic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <bazhang> Arphetic, from a PPA?
[00:29] <KNUBBIG> !enter | Arphetic
[00:29] <Arphetic> and some crap installed
[00:29] <Jordan_U> bazhang: :)
[00:29] <eternicode> jnettop is giving me this output: http://dpaste.com/538207/ any ideas what's up?  I checked out netstat, but it didn't show anything bound to 0.0.0.0:0.  This "connection" has been doing 100-300Kbps about 5-10 min at a time several times throughout the day, and I have no clue how to track down the culprit :/
[00:29] <will> !
[00:29] <bazhang> Arphetic, all PPA are disabled when you upgrade versions
[00:30] <habriel>  hello i am installing mrtg and i have it problem Use of uninitialized value $first in hash element at /usr/bin/indexmaker line 353
[00:30] <Arphetic> i didnt use ppe
[00:30] <Arphetic> ppa*
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Arphetic: Ubuntu tweak likely caused dependency problems and needed to be removed to complete the upgrade.
[00:30] <bazhang> Arphetic, then its not part of Ubuntu, has never been.
[00:30] <termitor> DasEi, make install liveusb on sd card, but no sure it working
[00:31] <Arphetic> and it didnt tell me when i upgraded?
[00:31] <Strav> KNUBBIG: I must use sudo for any write operation (I'm testing with touch ./tests, and for this, I need sudo)
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Arphetic: That happens with things installed from outside the repositories.
[00:31] <Arphetic> Microsoft Ubuntu 11.04
[00:31] <fez> hi
[00:31] <santyaga> hi all
[00:31] <Auriga> Has everyone upgraded? How is the new OS?
[00:31] <skulltip> so i upgraded to 11.04, then installed unity 2d. when i try to play urban terror or openarena, my mouse wraps around the screen, like it's in a limited work area.
[00:31] <kowen> Auriga: Depends on who you ask. :P
[00:31] <Arphetic> like running ubuntu 1
[00:31] <Strav> KNUBBIG: I expect it has something to do with my fstab entry, but I can't see what's wrong with it.
[00:31] <bear_> icostisanu,  what html is saying , when you say  problems , you tell us here in chat room so maybe some one else can help , not just one person,lol ... good times   like your hardware your running (make and model  in some problems do helps to know)   cpu , ram , and what ever your use/problem with
[00:31] <Auriga> kowen, That sounds like you don't like it...
[00:32] <DasEi> termitor: usb will rather work, no way to boot without monitor and ssh in ? fresh install ? use another monitor ?
[00:32] <kowen> Auriga: Oh, I love Unity, actually. :)
[00:32] <habriel>  hello i am installing mrtg and i have it problem Use of uninitialized value $first in hash element at /usr/bin/indexmaker line 353
[00:32] <kowen> So far, Natty has been nice to me.
[00:32] <bazhang> Arphetic, this is not the complaints channel. if you have a legitimate support issue please ask
[00:32] <Auriga> kowen, Really...? Hmmm....
[00:32] <kowen> A lot of people are extremely unhappy with it, though.
[00:32] <KNUBBIG> Strav: Hm I dunno, I only used samba to for Win <-> Ubuntu, if your smb.conf is correct than it probably is fstab, right
[00:32] <Auriga> kowen, I am correct in saying compiz isn't compatible right...?
[00:32] <kowen> It uses Compiz.
[00:32] <santyaga> i didn't like unity, so gnome is my choice)
[00:33] <Auriga> Then I misunderstood all I read then...
[00:33] <kowen> Unity has its own Compiz plugin, actually, so you can control some aspects of it from ccsm, which is nice.
[00:33] <Auriga> AHhh okay.
[00:33] <KNUBBIG> Man when I'm that tired I tend to write total crap :)
[00:33] <KNUBBIG> (by means of grammar)
[00:33] <kowen> I didn't like Unity at first (actually, I wanted to curse at it), but gave it a chance for about a week. Now I think it's pretty awesome, considering how young it is.
[00:33] <skulltip> i dont mind the change in looks, but seems to be messing with my gaming
[00:34] <Auriga> kowen,  I may go back to 10.04 still... I think I will wait to see the long term effects on the OS.
[00:34] <kowen> Probably not a bad idea.
[00:34] <[V13]Axel> I have an odd question. Is there a way to hook onto an already-running program and view it's command-line output?
[00:34] <Auriga> Then again I may switch distro's...
[00:34] <kowen> I used to stick with the LTS releases, but lately, I'm feeling a little more adventurous. :P
[00:35] <Auriga> Lol.
[00:35] <Jordan_U> !screen | [V13]Axel
[00:35] <andygraybeal_> kowen, nice :)
[00:35] <Newbiehere> Hi everyone, i want to download Ubuntu 64. In the alterntive torrents, i only see AMD 64.
[00:35] <ParkerR> What and where would I add to this to boot XP from sda3? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602543/
[00:35] <speedrunnerG55__> i herd unity is unstable why is that
[00:35] <KNUBBIG> Newbiehere: AMD6 = 64bit
[00:35] <KNUBBIG> AMD64*
[00:35] <ZykoticK9> Newbiehere, AMD64 will work on Intel as well
[00:35] <DasEi> Newbiehere: same, it's general 64 bit, intell fine, too
[00:35] <skulltip> anyone know why my mouse wants to recenter on 3d games?
[00:36] <[V13]Axel> Jordan_U: Will that let me view the output of already-running programs on a command-line?
[00:36] <Newbiehere> ZykoticK9, your name sounds familiar from Ubuntu CA. Well thanks to everyone who responded, i'll started download'n. Thanks
[00:36] <Arphetic> How do I get emesene to get a tray icon again? Where do I configure Unity? Will OpenGL ever work again?
[00:36] <KNUBBIG> [V13]Axel: if the program is already running and not started by you, no
[00:37] <Auriga> Arphetic, emense should have it by default...
[00:37] <joncarr> where can i get help with compiz?
[00:37] <joncarr> is anyone there?
[00:37] <Arphetic> it did before natty
[00:37] <KNUBBIG> !compiz | joncarr
[00:37] <joncarr> thanks
[00:37] <ParkerR> joncarr, Use compizconfig
[00:37] <[V13]Axel> KNUBBIG: I mean if I start a program using an icon, or let's say I use the & flag after it to drop command-line access, can I regain access to that program's command-line?
[00:37] <KNUBBIG> !ccsm | joncarr
[00:37] <ParkerR> It reanable the effects in 11.04
[00:37] <Pirigosao>  (MP3) [Victor & Leo - Boa Sorte Pra Você] CebPlayer
[00:38] <ParkerR> *reenables
[00:38] <svu> is it ok that in natty libgcrypt.so is in /lib/{arch} and libcrypt.la is in /usr/lib/{arch} ?
[00:38] <joeyr> I have 10.10 on an external HD. I moved it from my desktop to my new laptop. When I boot on my laptop there is no GUI. Anybody know what to do?
[00:38] <joncarr> its a funny thing parker i tried to enable the cube and everything went away but my desktop i had to open a text file with chrome to get to a browser and now im here
[00:38] <ParkerR> joeyr, Try startx
[00:39] <KNUBBIG> [V13]Axel: yes I know, I don' know if that's possible, if you start the programm in a !screen, you can easily reattach but when you start it with an icon I don't know
[00:39] <joeyr> ParkerR: tried and it doesn't work
[00:39] <ParkerR> I dunno then
[00:39] <bkerensa> joeyr: You having some trouble?
[00:40] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, Did you see my new qustion?
[00:40] <ParkerR> *question
[00:41] <joeyr> bkerensa: My external hd that has Ubuntu on it boots but there is no GUI. I have an AMD Athlon x2 p340 processor and for graphics I have ATI mobility radeon HD 4250
[00:41] <dd214> Having trouble with 11.04 and VMware workstation, I can't create clones of existing VMs without workstation abruptly closing.  no logs
[00:41] <joncarr> hey parker...noone seems to be answering in that channel but i was wondering if you would mind giving me a hand getting this stuff back
[00:41] <ParkerR> Sure
[00:41] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: Don't add that anywhere. Install standard GRUB2 and you should have no problem. BURG is not supported here. If you'd like help with BURG it has its own venues for support.
[00:42] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, There and IRC channel for it?
[00:42] <joncarr> private chat?
[00:42] <ParkerR> *an
[00:42] <Karen_m> with my remote desktop, why does it show 2 hosts showing up when there is only 1 host?
[00:42] <ParkerR> joncarr, In here
[00:42] <KNUBBIG> good night everyone :)
[00:42] <ParkerR> Night
[00:43] <Karen_m> Hosts nearby .. will always show 2 hosts when there is only 1...  one works, one doesn't
[00:43] <Karen_m> why?
[00:43] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: There doesn't appear to be. But you can ask questions on launchpad here: https://answers.launchpad.net/burg
[00:43] <Omega> Karen_m: Can't you remove the other?
[00:43] <ParkerR> Jordan_U, Thanks
[00:44] <Arphetic> see, asking my questions didnt help
[00:44] <joeyr> My external hd that has Ubuntu on it boots but there is no GUI. I have an AMD Athlon x2 p340 processor and for graphics I have ATI mobility radeon HD 4250
[00:44] <Karen_m> no it won't let me
[00:45] <Jordan_U> ParkerR: You're welcome.
[00:45] <Arphetic> Will ubuntu 11.10 work again?
[00:46] <Jasonn> How can I make xubuntu use less CPU ??
[00:46] <Jasonn> less of my CPU **
[00:46] <html_inprogress> can open office  read and write ms exlce ?
[00:46] <xangua> Jasonn: disable compositing, if you have it on
[00:46] <Jasonn> xangua: How do I check if I have it on?
[00:46] <xangua> html_inprogress: yes, but better use the odf format ;)
[00:47] <sgaap> html_inprogress: if the source file is in odf (as xlsx) then probably it can
[00:47] <xangua> Jasonn: aah... with you eyes
[00:47] <Jasonn> xangua: xD , what cmmand do I run, and what does the prog do?
[00:47] <xangua> Jasonn: haven't use xfce on a long time
[00:47] <retoco> test
[00:48] <axisys> how do I got the window menubar back.. it disappeared after enabling the rotate cube in compiz
[00:48] <kellnola> html_inprogress, it almost always can, but I haven't thrown anything too complicated at it.
[00:48] <vkillion> Can someone help me? I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 but when I start it up, it doesn't completely load and I can see various windows glitching (like the Update Manager).
[00:48] <kowen> axisys: Alt+F2, type "unity --replace" (no quotes).
[00:49] <html_inprogress> i need it cross platfrom, linux to business ms
[00:49] <quuxman> I have a sound problem. Sound does not work with any app, except for mplayer I discovered if I use -ao oss, it works
[00:49] <Jasonn> xangua: Composite is off atm, anything else I can disable?
[00:49] <sgaap> html_inprogress: if you use odf on both side (libreoffice and ms office) then it should work
[00:49] <quuxman> also, my old test of `cat /bin/ls > /dev/dsp` also produces noise
[00:50] <quuxman> alsamixer also works, but again no alsa apps produce audio
[00:50] <sgaap> html_inprogress: then it depends if you use macro's/vb
[00:51] <kevincsd> Hi there. Is there a way to ask irb not to print out the return value after each input?
[00:51] <dfgas> how do i reset up the displau
[00:51] <McQueen> hi, i was runnig ubuntu 10.10... it asked for update 11.04... it updated... now its running login screen... i can log in. its loading my desktop... desktop loading well.. i can see new ubuntu desktop... but its waiting... mouse is working... but i can not click any thing and i can not running any program... how can i fix it....
[00:51] <quuxman> the drivers are clearly working, so what's left to be broken with alsa?
[00:51] <dfgas> after upgrading to 11.04 the display is all messed up
[00:51] <Kevin147> I just got back from going to town, and now my monitor is saying "No signal out in range" something like that... I can't see a thing, so I can't fix it via the gdm.. but I'm in the terminal now, is there anyway to fix this?! 11.04
[00:52] <quuxman> Kevin147: wiggle the cable?
[00:52] <Kevin147> quuxman: doesn't do crap, I tried
[00:52] <Kevin147> if I can see the terminal on the monitor, just not the login screen
[00:52] <sgaap> Kevin: it means that the proposed res and or hz is bigger then what your monitor is capable of, did you upgrade?
[00:52] <Kevin147> theres something wrong there
[00:52] <quuxman> Kevin147: oh, duh. Didn't think of that
[00:53] <Hendrik1> hey folks
[00:53] <axisys> kowen: that did not help.. i am on ubuntu classic btw
[00:53] <quuxman> Kevin147: play with /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[00:53] <kowen> axisys: Ah... figured you were in Unity.
[00:53] <McQueen> hey friends... any idea for my question?
[00:54] <sgaap> Kevin: just rename you /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if the autodetect works, maybe your old drivers arent working
[00:54] <kowen> I've had Unity muck up my taskbar with Compiz changes. Did you try running "compiz --replace" instead?
[00:54] <beanstalk> I'm trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04, so I have to first upgrade to 10.10, but I get the error E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks. How should I fix this?
[00:54] <quuxman> how is it possible that Alsa works with OSS emulation, but not by itself?
[00:55] <Hendrik1> Hey anyone interested in getting boxee into the software center -> http://goo.gl/MhatJ
[00:55] <Guest15785> if I use dd and ff correctly, can I mirror my / to /dev/sdb1 and then install windows on /dev/sda1, edit grub, and then boot from either windows or ubuntu? I guess, I'm asking if "mirroring" the hard disk to another will make it bootable? Note the hard disks are different sizes.
[00:55] <LinuxHack3r> if I use dd and ff correctly, can I mirror my / to /dev/sdb1 and then install windows on /dev/sda1, edit grub, and then boot from either windows or ubuntu? I guess, I'm asking if "mirroring" the hard disk to another will make it bootable? Note the hard disks are different sizes.
[00:55] <McQueen> my pc was runnig ubuntu 10.10... it asked for update 11.04... it updated... now its running login screen... i can log in. its loading my desktop... desktop loading well.. i can see new ubuntu desktop... but its waiting... mouse is working... but i can not click any thing and i can not running any program... how can i fix it....
[00:56] <ayecee> McQueen: I don't know, but you are truly a master of the ellipsis.
[00:56] <sgaap> McQueen, if you pick ubuntu classic desktop at gdm login does that happen too?
[00:56] <Jasonn> What can I remove in xubuntu to make it use less CPU, more specifically, firefox uses a LOT, can I maybe unload some crap in there?
[00:57] <McQueen> sgaap, i am newbie... can you show me a way...
[00:57] <sgaap> Jasonn try something like midori if you want minimal
[00:57] <zvacet> Jasonn: you can use lubuntu instead
[00:58] <sgaap> McQueen, if you are at the login screen (assuming you dont login automatically) you can choose a session, pick ubuntu classic and then login
[00:58] <soreau> Guys no matter what I do, I cannot get back into ubuntu classic mode. Even when I switch to it, it still starts unity session unity
[00:58] <ZykoticK9> Jasonn, XFCE uses close to the same amount of resources as Gnome, lxde (what lubuntu uses) is lightweight in comparison
[00:58] <LAcan> what size swap partition should I use on a 32 bit laptop with 2gb of physical ram? ubuntu 10.04...
[00:58] <Jasonn> sgaap: and is there anything other than firefix that I can take off my system to make it run better (the problem is the fans, they run SOO loud)
[00:59] <zvacet> LAcan: at least 2gb
[00:59] <McQueen> sgaap, i am loging in well, its not problem... the problem is after login... its loading my desktop.. its showing my desktop... i can move my mouse... but i cant click anything...
[00:59] <sgaap> Jasonn: if you have fans spinning you have overheating and load might not even be the primairy issue
[00:59] <Jasonn> ZykoticK9: atm, I am not looking to install a whole new os on the system, plus I like the support Xubuntu gets, as opposed to lubuntu
[00:59] <LAcan> zvacet, will more increase perofrmance or anything...?
[00:59] <cached> what's with #ubuntu-unregged? was there a spambot attack?
[00:59] <kowen> LAcan: I'd recommend twice your physical memory, personally.
[00:59] <sgaap> McQueen: the reason for testing with ubuntu classic is to see if it also happens then
[01:00] <LAcan> so 4gb kowen ?
[01:00] <kowen> That's what I do.
[01:00] <LAcan> kk
[01:00] <LjL> cached: not very recently. you might have been redirected there due to join throttling, though.
[01:00] <Jasonn> sgaap: Where can I begin to troubleshoot? I mean, i turn my comp off at night and everything, so I dont see what the problem could be
[01:00] <zvacet> LAcan: for suspen and hibernation I think
[01:00] <cached> LjL:but i haven't joined for over 4 hours
[01:00] <Kevin147> this is bs... ok, so I can go lower then what I had, but then it looks like crap, and says the same thing again... I'm on vnc atm
[01:00] <bU1137Pr00f> Does anyone know how to change the gdm in 11.04?
[01:00] <Kevin147> I want my normal screen ffs!
[01:00] <sgaap> Jasonn, it might be something hogging cpu or gpu, it might be dust or bad airflow for example.
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> Jasonn, you could install lxde on Xubuntu and give it a try, you certainly don't need to reinstall an OS
[01:01] <Jasonn> ZykoticK9: Ill look into that, thanks :)
[01:01] <Jasonn> sgaap: There is definitely no dust or any physical problems,
[01:01] <kowen> bU1137Pr00f: 11.04 uses GDM2. It's not as easily configurable as the original GDM, but there are some tools you can install to help.
[01:01] <zvacet> Jasonn: as somebody told you try midori instead of ff
[01:01] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: got a list?
[01:02] <kowen> bUll37Pr00f: Unfortunately, no. I'm at work. :|
[01:02] <sgaap> Jasonn, if thats the case and no visible load issues are around its important to determine whats making the noise, some gpu drivers for example can cause your gpu to become hot
[01:02] <kowen> But at least that's something to go off of? :P
[01:02] <Jasonn> sgaap: and what is a gpu?
[01:03] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: I also have some controls to add. I figured out icons but I don't know that directory controls are in.
[01:03] <ParkerR> Graphics card
[01:03] <sgaap> Jasonn: your videocard
[01:03] <steiner> how can i run nethack falconseye with out wine?
[01:03] <Jasonn> sgaap: Ok, and how would I see what is wrong with that?
[01:03] <sgaap> Jasonn, well, if its the one making the noise then its ovious it runs too hot
[01:03] <kowen> bU1137Pr00f: I'm not sure I know what you mean. In regards to GDM, or...?
[01:04] <sgaap> Jasonn: and if its not then its something else
[01:04] <html_inprogress> McQueen, do you need something?
[01:04] <reprapperMC> Is there a general problem with Ubuntu 11.04 causing intermittent wireless?
[01:04] <oneliner> is it ok to say the default firefox flash player is of relatively no use?
[01:04] <kowen> oneliner: Absolutely. :P
[01:05] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: I downloaded log-in screens that I want to use. what program do I use to add them to gdm?
[01:05] <sgaap> Jasonn, with lm-sensors you might be able to get temp readings if all your temp monitors are found
[01:05] <beanstalk> Is anyone else updating from 10.04 to 11.04?
[01:05] <hakeon> yup
[01:05] <beanstalk> Rather, is there any way to disable third-party packages temporarily?
[01:05] <Jasonn> sgaap: Its really weird because I am sure there is nothing wrong with the airflow, in fact, my comp runs almost open, so it cant be that, but I have a dual core 2.8GhZ(per core) processor, 2.5GB ram
[01:05] <kowen> bU1137Pr00f: Ah. I know in previous versions of Ubuntu you could install gdm2setup (or something similar) which would allow you to change the login background and GTK theme.
[01:05] <sgaap> Jasonn, just "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors" and run "sensors" in a terminal
[01:05] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: Using 11.04
[01:06] <html_inprogress> lxde, what this?
[01:06] <zvacet> beanstalk: ubuntu software center>edit>repositories
[01:06] <kowen> bU1137Pr00f: Let me look around for a second.
[01:06] <hakeon> HELP:  libreoffice impress slides blank when opened by MS powerpoint
[01:06] <beanstalk> zvacet: what do I select now?
[01:06] <zvacet> html_inprogress:  http://lxde.org/
[01:07] <reprapperMC> Using 11.04, but my internet speed through wireless is very slow.
[01:07] <hakeon> note:  also blank when opened by mac OSX
[01:07] <zvacet> beanstalk: all thir party repos like medibuntu ppa etc
[01:07] <html_inprogress> oneliner,  what do you mean no use?  what are you using it for?
[01:07] <thalll> Hi, why isnt this command eval right? /bin/sh -c watch 'cat /proc/meminfo | fgrep MemFree | sed s/[^0-9]//g >> 2.3.6.txt'
[01:07] <Jasonn> sgaap: The only one is a virtual device, and its at 60 C
[01:07] <beanstalk> zvacet: I don't have any of those
[01:08] <beanstalk> zvacet: it said that might be the problem for "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks" but I guess that's not it
[01:08] <sgaap> Jasonn: then its probably not reconizing your hardware monitors
[01:08] <zvacet> beanstalk: good,then you can start upgrade
[01:08] <ryan-c|m> anyone know why my monitor shuts off once grub loads the kernel on natty?  I disabled the splash and vt.handoff and it still does it.
[01:08] <bencc> when rotating logs, what is the error.log.1 file?
[01:08] <numbah1hax0r> Can somebody help me?
[01:08] <Jasonn> sgaap: How do I fix that?
[01:08] <beanstalk> zvacet: I get the same error :(
[01:08] <oneliner> html_inprogress: nothing much, just stuff it was obviously not meant to do, like, surf the web, n stuff
[01:08] <sgaap> Jasonn, do you have any other os, if so does it happen to run hot too?
[01:08] <ryan-c|m> it doesn't seem to be dhcping either
[01:08] <bencc> I understand the error.log.2.gz file
[01:08] <numbah1hax0r> In Xchat I can't see the list of users.
[01:08] <Jasonn> sgaap: Nope, only xubuntu
[01:08] <zvacet> beanstalk: is your maverick up-to-date
[01:09] <beanstalk> zvacet: yep
[01:09] <KM0201> numbah1hax0r: view/userlist  is it checked?
[01:09] <kowen> bU1137Pr00f: Try this. https://launchpad.net/gdm2setup
[01:09] <sgaap> Jasonn, if you do top in a terminal is one of the loads above 1?
[01:09] <beanstalk> zvacet: actually, I'm on Lucid Lynx
[01:09] <beanstalk> 10.04 lts
[01:09] <numbah1hax0r> KM0201, thanks for responding but I fixed it. :D
[01:10] <zvacet> beanstalk: you can not skip versions
[01:10] <KM0201> ok
[01:10] <Jasonn> sgaap: no, but one is 0.96
[01:10] <beanstalk> zvacet: I'm trying to update to 10.10 so I can then update to 11.04
[01:10] <zvacet> beanstalk: do you have separate home
[01:10] <Jasonn> sgaap: Am now installing something, and one is at 1.07, the other at 1.05 and the other at 0.97
[01:10] <beanstalk> zvacet: nope
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> beanstalk, by default LTSs will only upgrade to another LTS - sorry I don't know what you have to change to get non-LTS version.  Good luck.
[01:11] <sgaap> Jason, its rather high, or you system is very old
[01:11] <beanstalk> ZykoticK9: I've already changed the setting to let it go to 10.10
[01:11] <beanstalk> (non-lts
[01:11] <beanstalk> )
[01:11] <tepster> hi quick question - is it common practice to encrypt the home directory? it that what most users do?
[01:11] <Rehan> anytime I switch to a tty (virtual terminal), not only does my X crash but my tty text asking for me to login is wavy/blurry. I'm using nvidia proprietary drivers. Could anyone assist me please? Thank you.
[01:11] <zvacet> beanstalk: you can try upgrade with 10.10 alternate cd
[01:11] <Jasonn> sgaap: The system is not too old, its a thinkcenter from IBM, its like 4 yrs old
[01:11] <LAcan> tepster, ya and its a good idea
[01:11] <beanstalk> zvacet: I have a netbook, so I can't use a CD
[01:11] <bear_> command line, install medibuntu codec? how to?
[01:12] <zvacet> beanstalk: but I don´t know why you are getting those errors
[01:12] <DasEi> beanstalk: sudo update-manager -d  tells ?
[01:12] <beanstalk> DasEi: let me see
[01:12] <Logan_> !medibuntu | bear_
[01:12] <sgaap> Jason, and does top show apps with high cpu and/or mem?
[01:12] <html_inprogress> oneliner,  whats your os ? and  might not have got every thing
[01:12] <beanstalk> DasEi: that's just the normal update manager
[01:13] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: Thanks. Know do you know where I can put my controls so other users can have access to them through the appearance menu?
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> DasEi, "u-m -d" is saying update to development version
[01:13] <Jasonn> sgaap: Xorg
[01:13] <DasEi> !!upgrade | beanstalk
[01:13] <Jasonn> sgaap: software-center, and xchat
[01:13] <FreeFreak> hello
[01:13] <beanstalk> DasEi: I know how to upgrade
[01:13] <beanstalk> but now it's saying it's a release candidate
[01:13] <FreeFreak> can I talk about Wubi installer here?
[01:13] <sgaap> Jasonn, for example, mine is taking around a few % cpu max, with spikes depending on activity
[01:13] <sgaap> Jasonn: for xorg
[01:14] <wasabi> Howdy, howdy. Anybody have any knowledge about the progress of multiarch?
[01:14] <KM0201> FreeFreak: only if you wanna be laughed and pointed out... ;)
[01:14] <DasEi> beanstalk: which version it suggests ? natty (11.04) or even further ?
[01:14] <Jasonn> sgaap: Same on mine, just the spikes are really high, and I am talking system overall, and when the spikes happen, it goes REALLY loud
[01:14] <Nexxy> presumably easy question here ~ I have an LCD monitor connected to my laptop via VGA... it's being detected as CRT1 according to xrandr, and it won't allow me to set the proper resolution (1920x1080)... anyone have any pointers for me?
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> wasabi, multiarch is a Debian thing isn't it?
[01:14] <zus> what is the  command for  upgrading distro? is it sudo apt-get dist-updgrade?
[01:14] <wasabi> And ubuntu, of course.
[01:14] <forevertheuni> hey I was upgrading to 11.04 and..well there was a problem in the end of installation with nswrapperplugin  so everything stopped before the cleaning etc etc...how can I resume? or what can I do to do it manually?
[01:14] <Logan_> !upgrade | zus
[01:14] <maco> zus: sudo do-release-upgrade to go to a new version
[01:14] <beanstalk> it says 10.10
[01:15] <sgaap> Jasonn: then it might be your driver
[01:15] <zvacet> zus: no
[01:15] <LAcan> Nexxy, does your vcard support that resolution?
[01:15] <Jasonn> sgaap: How do I upgrade that?
[01:15] <sgaap> Jasonn: whats your graphics card?
[01:15] <Jasonn> sgaap: xD how do I check that?
[01:15] <zus> i need the cli syntax i think.
[01:15] <Nexxy> yes, it was displaying properly at one point, now it's not showing that resolution as an option anymore, and I'm not sure why it disappeared
[01:15] <ZykoticK9> Jasonn, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[01:15] <maco> zus: sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:15] <sgaap> Jasonn, what zykotick9 just said
[01:16] <zus> thanks
[01:16] <Jasonn> ZykoticK9: sgaap Thanks :)
[01:16] <Jasonn> sgaap: ZykoticK9: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[01:16] <DasEi> !who | beanstalk
[01:16] <sgaap> Jasonn: thats the only one in the list?
[01:16] <beanstalk> DasEi: that was to you :P
[01:17] <Jasonn> sgaap: Yeah
[01:18] <zvacet> beanstalk: si you upgraded to 10.10
[01:18] <bU1137Pr00f> kowen: Got a 404 error for gdm2setup
[01:18] <sgaap> Jasonn, im not sure then, it might just be an issue with that driver
[01:18] <DasEi> beanstalk: either can set the update-manager to prompt for new releases or go by http://paste.ubuntu.com/602553/ as mentioned above
[01:18] <beanstalk> zvacet: I'm trying to.
[01:19] <Jasonn> sgaap: Hm
[01:19] <beanstalk> DasEi, zvacet: I've already set it to do that. I pressed the button to upgrade to 10.10. That's what's giving me "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks."
[01:19] <sgaap> Jasonn: does the graphics card has a fan? its an integrated gpu so it might be fanless
[01:20] <Darxus> How do I get back to an application, in unity, after I minimized it?  It's not showing up in the alt-tab thing, or the panel.
[01:20] <Jasonn> sgaap: Fanless
[01:20] <bU1137Pr00f> Darxus: Sure you minimized it?
[01:20] <sgaap> well, then it can hardly be the source of the noise, so it must be something else :s
[01:20] <forevertheuni> hey I was upgrading to 11.04 and..well there was a problem in the end of installation with nswrapperplugin  so everything stopped before the cleaning etc etc...how can I resume? or what can I do to do it manually?
[01:20] <Darxus> bU1137Pr00f: Yup, I was testing my theory that a different app disappeared because I minimized it.
[01:21] <Darxus> The app is azureus.
[01:21] <quuxman> any ideas why alsa wouldn't work, but oss emulation does?
[01:21] <sgaap> Jasonn: can you make up which fans make more noise, casefan, or cpu
[01:21] <Darxus> I can still see it in ps.
[01:21] <PurplePuppies> WOOOO
[01:21] <PurplePuppies> WASSSUP CHANNNEEEELLL!!
[01:21] <bU1137Pr00f> Darxus: I have the same problem with Skype. Unity likes to do that.
[01:21] <Jasonn> sgaap: I can point to it, just dont know what its called.
[01:21] <FreeFreak> hello
[01:21] <Jasonn> !ot | PurplePuppies
[01:21] <FreeFreak> again :)
[01:21] <DasEi> beanstalk: is your system updated/graded ?
[01:22] <FreeFreak> what is the package name of the wubi installer?
[01:22] <sgaap> Jasonn: you got 3 fans minimum: psu (power), cpu and case
[01:22] <beanstalk> DasEi: yes. I've installed all the latest updates.
[01:22] <DasEi> beanstalk: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:22] <bear_> lol PurplePuppies ,,  the dogs are going wilded again...
[01:22] <Jasonn> sgaap: Case is the one pointing outside sucking air
[01:22] <beanstalk> DasEi: I'll try
[01:22] <Jasonn> ?
[01:22] <PurplePuppies> hahahahah
[01:22] <zvacet> beanstalk:just suggestion but try sudo apt-get -f install
[01:22] <PurplePuppies> Jasonn: Why hello.
[01:22] <Darxus> bU1137Pr00f: Is it because it's trying to minimize to the... icon tray thing that doesn't exist anymore?
[01:22] <sgaap> Jasonn, yes, or blowing it out
[01:22] <beanstalk> zvacet: what does that do?
[01:22] <bazhang> PurplePuppies, ubuntu support question?
[01:22] <Jasonn> sgaap: Its the case one
[01:22] <sgaap> Jasonn: you can have more then one
[01:23] <PurplePuppies> Bazhang: always
[01:23] <zvacet> beanstalk: fix broken packages if any
[01:23] <beanstalk> oh ok
[01:23] <FreeFreak> what is the package name of the wubi installer?
[01:23] <bazhang> PurplePuppies, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[01:23] <Jasonn> sgaap: Yeah, there are 2 at the front, and just holes at the back, its both
[01:23] <bU1137Pr00f> Darxus: Your guess is as good as mine. I gave up on Unity. Switched it to the Ubuntu Classic profile.
[01:23] <14WAA642U> For some reason, after I pair my phone's bluetooth, I don't see the mobile internet connection I created as a network option.  I made sure to save the connection and check "allow all users".
[01:23] <sgaap> Jasonn, then it might be set like that in the bios, just responding on extra heat
[01:23] <Darxus> bU1137Pr00f: Okay, thanks.  I didn't expect to stick with unity as long as I already have....
[01:23] <14WAA642U> Anyone know what might cause that?
[01:23] <PurplePuppies> bazhang: dont be sucha grump
[01:23] <FreeFreak> please tell me and i'll leave
[01:24] <FreeFreak> what is the package name of the wubi installer?
[01:24] <sgaap> Jasonn, still, they accumulate dust faster then vacuumcleaners
[01:24] <KM0201> FreeFreak: using wubi is detailed on the ubuntu site.. but it's not really a good idea
[01:24] <KM0201> !wubi | FreeFreak
[01:24] <bU1137Pr00f> Darxus: Don't get me wrong... I like Unity, well some of the features they added, but it really isn't Gnome 3
[01:24] <Jasonn> sgaap: Ill clean it out and look at the bios
[01:24] <sgaap> Jasonn, i use compressed air from time to time to clean mine our
[01:24] <_numbers> this is a fresh install of ubuntu 10.10 server and apt-get install mysql-server doesn't work. after its installed i run mysql client but get an error that it can't connect to the mysqld.sock. any ideas? has happened a lot to me.
[01:24] <Jasonn> sgaap: Thanks a lot mate :
[01:24] <Jasonn> )
[01:24] <sgaap> if its not load or so then i cant think of any other reason
[01:24] <FreeFreak> thanks a lot
[01:24] <Nexxy> _numbers, did you start the mysql daemon?
[01:24] <Leprikonas> Has anybody tryed installing ubuntu on Inspiron duo?
[01:25] <_numbers> Nexxy: yes
[01:25] <jpohl> after upgrading to xubuntu natty when i try to shutdown or restart it just takes me back to the login screen
[01:25] <bU1137Pr00f> Leprikonas: I have mine on an Inspiron 1545.
[01:25] <kesi> Hi, I just installed ubuntu server and I'm trying to get it to recognize my network cards (wireless or wired) and having no luck.  Any suggestions?  The only interface listed under ifconfig is lo.  I see the ethernet card under lspci
[01:26] <bU1137Pr00f> kesi: Ever have to play around with Gentoo?
[01:27] <Rehan> anytime I switch to a tty (virtual terminal), not only does my X crash but my tty text asking for me to login is wavy/blurry. I'm using nvidia proprietary drivers. Could anyone assist me please? Thank you.
[01:27] <bU1137Pr00f> kesi: lo is your loopback, if eth0 isn't in your ifgonfig, then the drivers for it didn't install.
[01:27] <Leprikonas> ok, then has anybody trien ubuntu on a convertible tanlet pc?
[01:27] <Leprikonas> *tablet
[01:28] <DasEi> kesi: what does : sudo ifup eth0 inet dhcp     repeat ?
[01:28] <kesi> bU1137Pr00f: it shows up in lscpci.. what can I do?
[01:28] <cache_surplus> jpohl: uname -a
[01:29] <html_inprogress> jpohl,  if you set it up like so
[01:29] <beanstalk> I get the error "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks" during the second step of upgrading. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[01:29] <Superstar_> How do I generate a apache password file in Ubuntu?
[01:29] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: Unless it has a connection to the internet, I'm not sure what you can do.
[01:29] <cache_surplus> jpohl: shutdown -r now
[01:29] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: let me look how to do it in gentoo. should be similar
[01:30] <DasEi> beanstalk: never heard of that error, try from single mode, repair broken packages, if that doesn't help, choose another server
[01:30] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: try net-setup.
[01:30] <html_inprogress> Leprikonas,  no, but have you?
[01:31] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: net-setup eth0
[01:31] <beanstalk> DasEi: what's single mode? I've already repaired broken packages. and how do I choose another server? :P
[01:31] <retoco> How can i find out what's the range of IPs of my ISP??
[01:31] <Berto> Hi - Is simply installing unattended-upgrades on my 10.04 servers enough to get auto updates?  Do I need to change config files?
[01:31] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: nm... didn't work.
[01:31] <DasEi> beanstalk: single-mode is tried ? sudo synaptic > sources > choose downloadserver
[01:32] <cache_surplus> jpohl: you can goto terminal by pressing cntr-alt-F2, then logging in an executing those commands..
[01:32] <bU1137Pr00f> keri: Reinstall?
[01:32] <html_inprogress> bU1137Pr00f,   just manually install it
[01:32] <DasEi> kesi: ?
[01:33] <kesi> DasEi: it says ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.  Ignoring unknown interface inet=inet.  Ignoring unknown interface dhcp=dhcp
[01:33] <tensorpudding> if you're making a package, and you put icons in hicolor, is adding hicolor-theme to the dependencies enough to make sure that installing it does the right thing?
[01:33] <html_inprogress> retoco, whys thats you ask?
[01:34] <DasEi> kesi: sudo ifup wlan0 eth1  ?
[01:34] <kesi> bU1137Pr00f: net-setup command not found
[01:35] <Nexxy> so I've determined that both my video card and monitor support the 1920 x 1080 resolution. It appears as though it is an issue with the fact that ubuntu identified my LCD monitor as CRT (presumably due to the VGA connection). Is xorg.conf the most appropriate way to address this?
[01:35] <forevertheuni> so I updated to 11.04...and my gnome doesn't work anymore I have a black screen with stuff running on the back..I tried ubuntu and ubuntu-classic with no effect..I managed to come to kde what can I do? the upgrade failed in the end of installing pkgs and the cleaning didn' take place
[01:36] <Leprikonas> html_inprogress, not yet, I will get my dell duo on next saturday :D
[01:36] <foodstamp> any ideas on getting mic (ext & int) configured in xubuntu 11.04? i've already enbled everything that i can think of
[01:36] <jpohl> cache_surplus: i already tried that, trying to shutdown like that way locks up the computer
[01:36] <LAcan> how do i enable VNC server on 10.04... is it installed by default?
[01:36] <kesi> DasEi: ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[01:36] <kesi> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[01:37] <sgaap> foreverthenuni: tried sudo apt-get -f install?
[01:37] <html_inprogress> Leprikonas,  did you do your research?
[01:38] <DasEi> kesi: so for some reason it appears the drivers for your NIC's are missing, can you pastebin the part of lspci telling about the NIC ?
[01:38] <kesi> ok
[01:38] <forevertheuni> sgaap i'll try
[01:39] <Leprikonas> html_inprogress, no, just now i'm reading a http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1658635&page=37
[01:39] <forevertheuni> sgaap, nup nothing missing
[01:39] <LAcan> is VNC installed by default in 10.04?
[01:40] <kesi> DasEi: 02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd RTL-8139/8139c/8139C+ (rev 10)
[01:40] <sgaap> forevertheuni: so its only a black background in unity?
[01:40] <html_inprogress> Leprikonas,  pm ?    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlPvnW6mgU
[01:40] <DasEi> forevertheuni: (!logs you off, so first read) sudo init 1 >choose repair broken p.. , then choose root : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, sudo service gdm start
[01:40] <forevertheuni> sgaap, aye pop-ups notif come and "crash reports" windows
[01:41] <sgaap> forevertheuni: what kind of?
[01:42] <Leprikonas> looks oh thanx html_inprogress
[01:42] <forevertheuni> I have to reboot to come to ini1 cause I think my nvidia module breaks the fbuffer
[01:43] <Jasonn> How do I find a folder
[01:43] <Jasonn> on the whole filesystem (Also subfolders)
[01:44] <antihc333> I am going thru the BIND9ServerHow to.  I decided to stick with "mydomain.com"  to test with.  I have all the configuration done but mydomain.com does not resolve. and ns.mydomain.com does.  Any suggestions
[01:44] <DasEi>  kesi: 8139, absolutely common, are there more than just the two  realtek and wireless ?
[01:45] <Jasonn> How do I find a folder
[01:45] <Jasonn> on the whole filesystem (Also subfolders)
[01:45] <kesi> DasEi: nope.  Nothing else
[01:45] <kesi> DasEi: network related that is
[01:45] <kesi> DasEi: running the install again and it sees both
[01:46] <DasEi> kesi: you connect via dhcp ?
[01:46] <kesi> DasEi: yes
[01:46] <DasEi> kesi: one more try :
[01:46] <DasEi> kesi: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[01:46] <coz_> Jasonn,   you could open  gnome-keybing-properties to see the default shortcut or create a shortcut for "Search"
[01:46] <hakeon> anyone help w/ ubuntu 11.04 libreoffice impress compatibility w/ MS?
[01:46] <mbeierl> anyone familiar with Arista?  I can't seem to tell it which title I want to rip from the DVD
[01:46] <DasEi> kesi: add a block :
[01:46] <kesi> DasEi: the installer found it and seemed to connect.  Guess I'll see if it works this time. It's a fast install on this computer and I just did a clean install
[01:46] <Jasonn> coz_: What is the default?
[01:47] <nothingspecial> Jasonn: find / -type d -name 'name_of_folder'
[01:47] <Rehan> is there a way i can transfer my currently installed ubuntu partition to my USB flash drive and just have it boot from there?
[01:47] <Jasonn> nothingspecial: Thanks :)
[01:47] <coz_> Jasonn,  actually I think is is some strange letter+number combination,, I always change that to left-alt+Home  keys
[01:47] <DasEi> kesi: auto eth0
[01:47] <DasEi> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:47] <jmrenner> hey guys ever since I've installed Natty I've had all sorts of suspend/hibernate/resume issues
[01:48] <coz_> Jasonn,   you may also want to look into easystroke  gesture recognition for mouse gestures systemically
[01:48] <RavenHursT> So how do I bring up my buddy lists in Empathy?
[01:48] <DasEi> kesi: two lines, save interfaces, then sudo networking restart
[01:48] <DasEi> kesi: two lines, save interfaces, then sudo service networking restart*
[01:48] <RavenHursT> I've set up all my chat accounts.. but I don't see anywhere that says.. "HEre's who's online"..
[01:48] <coz_> Jasonn,  o nce you get used to that  you will be hoooked...not sure about it on laptop although i see no reason it would be excessively difficult
[01:49] <kesi> DasEi: if this doesn't work, I'll try that.   I figured no harm since it's a new install anyways.
[01:49] <CodeForFood> Helo friends.
[01:49] <DasEi> kesi: are you already reinstalling ?
[01:49] <CodeForFood> Hello Friends
[01:50] <bazhang> CodeForFood, hi
[01:50] <balt11t> is there a help page for internet sharing from 11.04 to Windows 7?
[01:50] <kesi> DasEi: yes. got a pm from somebody suggesting that would fix it.  already at 90%.
[01:50] <CodeForFood> After a dist-upgrade, my video don't use al my screen, how i fix this?
[01:50] <DasEi> !ics | balt11t
[01:51] <bazhang> CodeForFood, dist-upgrade? do you in fact mean version upgrade?
[01:51] <CodeForFood> bazhang, hi
[01:51] <DasEi> kesi: so that was all done to the wood, well , good luck
[01:51] <RavenHursT> Ok.. nevermind.. figured it out.. so then how do I get Empathy Internet MEssaging to load automatically when I boot?
[01:51] <CodeForFood> from 10.10 to 11.04
[01:51] <robbier> I have a quick question regarding wireless in Ubuntu 11.04.  In earlier versions of Ubuntu, I was able to install b43-fwcutter and my wireless would work just fine.  In the latest version of Ubuntu, however, even if I install b43-fwcutter, my wireless does not work.  The firmware is missing.  This is strange because this exact same process worked in previous versions, but not the latest.
[01:51] <CodeForFood> bazhang, from 10.10 to 11.04
[01:51] <quuxman> is there a program that can run gnome applets in a regular window?
[01:51] <needlez> has anyone noticed a glitch like with the gnome screensaver on ubuntu 11.04?? just wondering if its just me or if this is common, with other people?? i have a nvidia 310M and i'm getting this issue
[01:52] <needlez> robbier: what kind of wireless card??
[01:52] <balt11t> thanks DasEi
[01:52] <robbier> Broadcom B4309, it is a dell laptop.  Branded as Dell True Mobile something.
[01:53] <kesi> DasEi: done to the wood?   I appreciate your help, and I will follow what you said again if this doesn't work.   I was just surprised the installer could see and connect and so it seemed like a problem might have occurred during install.   This seemed safest
[01:53] <r00ter> hello, can you help me?
[01:53] <needlez> robbier: lspci | grep -i network in a terminal post that output
[01:54] <needlez> just wanna make sure its seeing it on the hardware
[01:54] <smp4488> is it possible to run a single full screen browser without a window manager?
[01:54] <kzman> hello
[01:54] <DasEi> kesi: It's fine, and a very common hardware
[01:54] <kzman> does ubuntu read flopy disks?
[01:54] <sgaap> smp4488: very likely yes
[01:54] <cache_surplus> jpohl: looks like you may have a bad byte somewhere, thats too bad. i recently had a question, why an older version of ubuntu desktop installed fine, while 10.10 and 11.x did not.
[01:55] <smp4488> sgaap: with just xorg?
[01:55] <DasEi> kzman: sure
[01:55] <miedda> im running 11.04 and would like to connect to my wireless network when the machine boots so i dont have to login
[01:55] <sgaap> smp, afaik you should be able to start and x session with only a browser
[01:55] <r00ter> I have ubuntu installed but I want to put a hard disk with windows already installed, how can i include this windows in my grub???
[01:55] <kzman> DasEi, but i am on 10.10, and it does not read any of these disks
[01:56] <Jordan_U> r00ter: Plug the disk in and run "sudo update-grub".
[01:56] <r00ter> i tried sudo update-grub but not work ...
[01:56] <DasEi> r00ter: attach to ubu-box, boot ubu, sudo os-prober
[01:56] <needlez> miedda: explain cant you just select auto connect?? and have it autoconnect you so your not typing the password every time??
[01:56] <DasEi> kzman: is there an entry in fstab ?
[01:56] <r00ter> no DasEi
[01:56] <forevertheuni> hi again well I tried the dpkg-reconf xorg-xserver.and nothing
[01:56] <DasEi> !fstab
[01:56] <Jordan_U> DasEi: os-prober on its own only prints information to stdout, it's update-grub which (using that output from os-prober) adds entries to the grub.cfg.
[01:56] <miedda> needlez: im using the machine as a server so i dont want to have to login
[01:57] <kanuha> I noticed that since installing 11.04 my network speed has dropped significantly. Is this an issue that can be resolved?
[01:57] <yakubori> hello
[01:57] <Jordan_U> r00ter: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[01:57] <forevertheuni> I tried ubuntu failsafe mode.same thing black bg when I do alt+f1 I see glimps of the panel
[01:57] <needlez> robbier: run lspci | grep -i network in terminal and post results, so i can make sure it the rite wifi card im looking for
[01:57] <DasEi> Jordan_U: I know, if it's found ..
[01:57] <cdubya> Is there any way to customize the view in 11.04 to put the dock on the bottom? I tried to set it to left in the ubuntu unity plugin settings in compiz and logged out and logged back in, but it didn't make any difference....
[01:57] <yakubori> anyone having cd import issues w/ banshee - specifically artist/track data not appearing?
[01:57] <forevertheuni> kde is all that wrks
[01:57] <m0ksha> hi, I can't boot windows 7 since I Reinstalled grub -- tried using windows 7 repair utility / command line tools / nothing seems to work .. can anyone help please? thanks!
[01:58] <Jordan_U> m0ksha: What happens when you try to boot Windows?
[01:58] <sgaap> foreverthenuni: and if you enable compositing in kde (extra effects or whatever they are called)
[01:58] <r00ter> DasEi: after i will include this hard disk in fstab, the command sudo update-grub will work??
[01:58] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: it just hangs
[01:58] <r00ter> Jordan_U: i dont know pc is in my school...
[01:58] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: cursor
[01:59] <Rehan> is there a way i can transfer my currently installed ubuntu partition to my USB flash drive and just have it boot from there?
[01:59] <Jordan_U> m0ksha: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[01:59] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: again, sure
[01:59] <forevertheuni> ok in kde
[02:00] <DasEi> r00ter: first grubs needs to find the os, sudo update-grub then appends it to grub; fstab lets you automount your win-partitions , if desired to be used in ubu
[02:00] <Jordan_U> r00ter: Without more information we can't really be of much help.
[02:00] <r00ter> yes, i know Jordan_U , tomorrow i will try all the options you cant tell me now hehe
[02:01] <sgaap> forevertheuni, but are your extra window manager compositing features enabled in kde, it could just as well be that its glx/opengl stuff that goes wrong
[02:01] <nsd> cdubya: Honestly at this point seeing how bad (imo) Unity is, I'd just switch to another WM and use some other dock app; I know that there's others out there.
[02:01] <yakubori> banshee just keeps doing 'Audio CD/Unknown Artist/Track $num'... it got everything for the first cd I imported, but none of the subsequent ones.
[02:01] <forevertheuni> ubuntu failsafe uses composite?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> r00ter: One thing which would be particularly usefull, when you come back, would be the output of boot info script: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280
[02:02] <sgaap> forevertheuni, it doesnt no
[02:02] <forevertheuni> yes I enabled them in kde
[02:02] <sgaap> forevertheuni, so you get a black screen in the unity fallback mode?
[02:03] <DasEi> Rehan: depends ..
[02:03] <cdubya> nsd, so out of curiosity, why the choice to use unity by default? If it's so bad, that is....
[02:03] <forevertheuni> y in all ubuntu options in gdm
[02:03] <r00ter> i will remember this Jordan_U thanks
[02:03] <Jordan_U> r00ter: You're welcome.
[02:03] <nsd> cdubya: Because it was the Ubuntu developers that made it. Personally, I don't see the point -- the Gnome developers have been trying to do more or less the same with Gnome 3, but instead of cooperating, the Ubuntu devs chose to go their own way.
[02:03] <DasEi> Rehan: either your usb is big enough, than can clone hd with dd, or use an approach like remastersys for a live system
[02:03] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: RESULTS are here: http://pastebin.com/5pEUfjMa
[02:04] <sgaap> forevertheuni, what do you mean by that?
[02:04] <Rehan> DasEi: yea my ubuntu partition is 10gb and my usb is 16GB. If I use dd, do i need to do anything for grub?
[02:04] <cache_surplus> sgaap: my eyes burned trying to decipher that last sentence
[02:04] <cache_surplus> also
[02:05] <forevertheuni> ubuntu ub classic ub classic no effects ub failsafe
[02:05] <DasEi> Rehan: no, if that goes wrong might have to, but often that works, if usb-boot is supported by box
[02:05] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: those are the options for...?
[02:05] <Jordan_U> m0ksha: From that output grub doesn't even appear to be installed to the mbr. Where is grub loading from?
[02:05] <cache_surplus> oh. you mean in login splash?
[02:05] <forevertheuni> starting the session in gnome
[02:05] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: your asking what they all do?
[02:05] <sgaap> cache: i think those are the options from gdm, it seems all fail but kde
[02:06] <sgaap> fail being a black screen
[02:06] <Rehan> DasEi: so i keep my grub2 on my box's MBR, and as long as the usb is plugged in prior to boot, it should find it?
[02:06] <forevertheuni> no I'm saying none work gnome is screwed
[02:06] <DasEi> Rehan: to be on the safe side, should do it from a live cd
[02:06] <forevertheuni> only kde workds
[02:06] <cache_surplus> failsafe?
[02:06] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: RESULTS grub actually just got removed when i tried to run the command line utils
[02:06] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: are you able to login?
[02:06] <cdubya> any suggestions on other window managers to look at for 11.04?
[02:06] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: so i tried to boot from windows partition (without grub) and it still won't boot
[02:06] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: now I'm reinstalling grub again
[02:06] <DasEi> Rehan:yes, else can de-plug internal and let supergrubdisk repair it
[02:06] <forevertheuni> yes and then blackscreen popups show if I altf1 I can see glimps of the panel
[02:07] <Anope> hi all
[02:07] <Rehan> DasEi: i have another question, how can i run a java jnlp file?
[02:07] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: so you you select the default top option, you log in, then it kicks you to cmdline, correct?
[02:07] <saganbyte> hi
[02:07] <Anom01y> http://www.infowars.com/police-state-kicks-into-overdrive-on-dubious-news-of-osama-takedown/
[02:07] <nsd> cdubya: If you want to go old school, try FVWM. If you want modern but light, use LXDE or Xfce. If you want lots of features, try KDE. Btw, you can get Xubuntu or Kubuntu's desktops by doing "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" or "xubuntu-desktop"
[02:07] <Jordan_U> !ot | Anom01y
[02:07] <DasEi> Rehan: no idea
[02:07] <bazhang> Anom01y, wrong channel for that
[02:08] <nsd> cdubya: I haven't used LXDE, so I can't say what it's like, but I hear it's very light on memory
[02:08] <envygeeks> !political | Anom01y
[02:08] <saganbyte> i m getting an error: Error opening terminal: unknown. while accessing a file via nano using sudo nano default
[02:08] <saganbyte> what could be wrong?
[02:08] <forevertheuni> cache_surplus, no no comnd line (i didn't try that one..just went to kde..it works)
[02:08] <Anom01y> oops
[02:08] <Anope> i have a question please,im on Win  i want to install Ubuntu from Wubu found in the ISO, and now he is downloading a torrent file
[02:08] <cdubya> nsd, nice....so you have any suggestions on WM's......
[02:08] <cache_surplus> your X server is not starting properly, pastebin your dmesg or tail 50 /var/log/messages
[02:08] <DasEi> Rehan: ##java
[02:08] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: here are the RESULTS after installing grub again: http://pastebin.com/nUPQeVPA
[02:08] <nsd> cdubya: I answered your question
[02:08] <Anope> Wubi sorry
[02:08] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: so your able to log in,,, correct? whats the issue then...
[02:08] <m0ksha> sorry, Jordan wrong linkg
[02:09] <forevertheuni> cache_surplus, I can't go to gnome everything is black
[02:09] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: do you not want to goto kde
[02:09] <nsd> cdubya: Xubuntu and Kubuntu are just Ubuntu with different window managers; doing sudo apt-get kubuntu will just install KDE
[02:09] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: correct link after grub install: http://pastebin.com/nUPQeVpa
[02:09] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: thats a little tricky, and you may have to remove some .hidden files to get it back
[02:09] <Anope> can you help me nsd please ?
[02:09] <cdubya> nsd, so gnome is no more on 11.04?
[02:10] <forevertheuni> mv .gnome?
[02:10] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: the weird thing is, I have to use fdsik to toggle off the bootable option on the Win7 partition, otherwise grub won't run, and if i do that, i run grub and select win7 but i doesn't boot
[02:10] <Tooyota-4Runner> Looking for some assistance.  Just installed Ubuntu 11.04 32-bit version.  No errors.  When I restarted I was presented with the Grub2 shell.  Rebooted with the install CD and dropped to a shell on the root partition just installed on.  Removed grub-pc and grub-common.  Then installed grub-pc and grub-common.  Installed Grub without errors.  Rebooted and am still getting the Grub2 shell.  Anyone can help as to why it's not bo
[02:10] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: so you have both kde and gdm running your X server.
[02:10] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: stand by
[02:10] <forevertheuni> no I have gdm running that starts kde
[02:10] <nsd> Anope: I don't know anything about Wubi if that's what you're trying to ask about
[02:10] <forevertheuni> but both installed
[02:10] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: yah that combo isnt the best way to do it
[02:10] <dvbuser> just installed 11.04, how can I get system monitor to put the resources into the top panel?
[02:10] <Anope> ok thank you anyway nsd
[02:10] <cdubya> nsd, that figures....ok thanks
[02:11] <nsd> cdubya: I wouldn't say it's no more, but the window manager component of it is kinda messed up (that is, all the other parts like the file, power, and session managers are fine)
[02:11] <m0ksha> Tooyota-4Runner: did you try running the boot info script?? lol
[02:11] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: kde and gdm have come a long way, however, running them both to run each other desktop is really not the best way. if you dont clean logout, shutdown, something might go wrong,,, prolly what your experiencing now, and after upgrades and such.
[02:11] <Barridus> can gwibber be set to update more often than 5 minutes by editing some config file?
[02:12] <FrumiousTrue> anope - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[02:12] <forevertheuni> I was running gnome when stupid upgrade failed
[02:12] <nsd> cdubya: I use FVWM with parts of Gnome, but I wouldn't advise trying it unless you're willing to spend a very long time editing configs to get it just how you like it (there's no visual configuration). I would very much suggest doing "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[02:12] <Anope> wana take a look thanks FrumiousTrue
[02:12] <DasEi> Barridus: setup cron
[02:12] <DasEi> !cron
[02:12] <nsd> cdubya: Or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:12] <LucasSpiker> null
[02:13] <Barridus> cron for gwibber?
[02:13] <jackster> it seems like there should be a better way than cron...
[02:13] <Tooyota-4Runner> m0ksha: No I have not I will do that now and report back
[02:13] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: no, not mv .gnome do a cp -Rp of .hidden files to a new dir. then you can remove stuff, like .gconf, .gconfd contents, related to the desktop and whats currently there. like i said its tricky.
[02:13] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: its an art
[02:14] <forevertheuni> been there done that before :( if it's user related I can start another user
[02:14] <m0ksha> Tooyota-4Runner: wait, check out this thread first http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401716
[02:14] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: usually you will lose your personal settings of look and feel, but thats ok, as long as you dont remove say, .mozilla or something like that... or .bash...
[02:15] <Jordan_U> m0ksha: Never install grub to a partittion. Always install it to the mbr. If the boot flag makes any difference at all then you haven't installed grub correctly.
[02:15] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: focus on .gconf and .gconfd but back up first... k
[02:15] <forevertheuni> ok I just mv .gconf to .gconfold ;)
[02:15] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: i also think there might be something wrong with your X server config say, /etc/X/xorg.conf
[02:15] <cache_surplus> opps /X11
[02:16] <forevertheuni> like what?
[02:16] <forevertheuni> I have my nvidia going fine
[02:16] <cache_surplus> dunno
[02:16] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I have a doubt. While a was in Google, searching for Ubuntu, I found this: http://ploum.net/post/102-official-ubuntu-id-cards-announced Is this real?
[02:17] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: im better at fixing things when im logged into a box, rather then guessing
[02:17] <Tooyota-4Runner> m0ksha: I do not have raid setup.  Just IDE
[02:17] <forevertheuni> aye I know that
[02:17] <Tooyota-4Runner> Single drive and only ubuntu on it
[02:17] <cache_surplus> ask around more in here, someone knows more about this than i do for sure
[02:17] <cache_surplus> off the top of their head
[02:17] <forevertheuni> just another question.   flashplugin64-installer conflicts with flashplugin-nonfree
[02:17] <forevertheuni>   adobe-flashplugin:i386 provides flashplugin-nonfree and is present and installed.
[02:17] <forevertheuni> and I dont' have flashplugin installed anymore :s
[02:17] <forevertheuni> I'm stuck
[02:17] <hakeon_> can anyone help w/ libreoffice compatibility?
[02:18] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: yah thats a fun one lol... i got mine to work no issues
[02:18] <m0ksha> Tooyota-4Runner: alright see what the script says then
[02:18] <dusf_> hello, on my upgrade and logging in to 11.04 of 20 mintues ago my mouse moves but i cannot click anything, there is a new apple-like dock on the left side of the screen, a ubuntu icon top left, but nothing else in my top panel - when i click the mouse button and or press keys the system doesn't respond - is there a know fix?
[02:18] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: something to do with copying a .so file with the right name and path
[02:18] <forevertheuni> :S
[02:19] <forevertheuni> need to look at a .deb to have my bearings
[02:19] <forevertheuni> is there anyway to manually dl the upgrade scripts?
[02:19] <Axlin> dusf_: i've been having similar lockups happen to me fairly frequently, usually related to compiz glitching out. so you can't hit alt+f2 and type in: compiz --replace?
[02:19] <forevertheuni> to 11.04?
[02:19] <DasEi> Barridus: ah, that's not the rss-reader, but microblogging, yes there is a tab under settings on how often to refresh
[02:20] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: here are some clues for .so issue
[02:20] <cache_surplus> http://pastebin.com/W8esfpk5
[02:20] <iconmefisto> forevertheuni: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:20] <cache_surplus> google the searchs with those lines, that link will pop up
[02:20] <forevertheuni> lol iconmefisto .it's broken believe me
[02:21] <cache_surplus> lemme see if i can find that link... sb
[02:21] <iconmefisto> forevertheuni: and make sure you have only one flash plugin installed
[02:21] <dusf_> Axlin: for me it happens immediately on logging in, several times, the mouse cursor moves but the system will not respond. i had compiz disabled in 10.10 for WINE, would it still be disabled on upgrading?
[02:21]  * Chuchulain waves to channel
[02:21] <cache_surplus> here is one i tried, but i dont think thats the final one  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=989448
[02:22] <root_> hu
[02:22] <root_> ht
[02:22] <root_> ?
[02:22] <forevertheuni> iconmefisto, I have none installed
[02:22] <Barridus> DasEi, yeah but it only goes down to 5, that's kind of an uneccesary limitation since the twitter API no longer gets crapped out if you do it too frequently.   most modern twitter clients allow very fast auto refreshes
[02:22] <assassin> hi
[02:22] <dusf_> Chuchulain: that's a very Irish name, welcome :)
[02:22] <Axlin> dusf_: the default unity desktop forces compiz to be running as far as i know. what you may want to do is install the "unity-2d" package to get unity without compiz effects
[02:22] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: i think i had to download ver 9 adobe first, then ... um.. im trying to remember
[02:22] <iconmefisto> forevertheuni: so what's broken?
[02:22] <cache_surplus> http://www.fsckin.com/2007/09/20/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-for-amd64-64-bit-on-debian-etch/
[02:23] <dusf_> Axlin: okay, so I log back in, try alt+f2 and compiz --replace ||| do i need to do something else with unity?
[02:23] <Chuchulain> dusf_, scottish here, but always cottoned to the stories of the tain bo cuilgne and heroes of ulster...
[02:23] <forevertheuni> when I try to install it says a weird msg like if it was installed
[02:23] <forevertheuni> I'll force the install of a deb...usually it works
[02:23] <moele> sooo, I was building QT 4.7.2 and was getting a few of the same issues with the PCH being not there, cant find a file etc.. so I would either touch <missing file> or mkdir <missing file> which fixed it everytime and it continued building, however my question is this:  What are the odds of this breaking the installation and having QT not function the way it was or is intended to? would it be fairly high?
[02:23] <Axlin> dusf_: well "compiz --replace" is only if it bugs out again, and it's not a guaranteed fix. that will only help if it's caused by compiz crashing on you
[02:23] <DasEi> Barridus: which app are you using for chatting ? pidgin allows, and I use twitter in browser, so it just goes faster than I read, without further tags
[02:24] <Barridus> DasEi, i was talking gwibber
[02:24] <dusf_> Axlin: well it's bugging out every boot so far, instantly, i haven't been able to interact with the GUI
[02:24] <Barridus> i actually like how it works now, except that refresh limitation
[02:24] <Chuchulain> dusf_, classic hero cycle ala j.campbell
[02:24] <cache_surplus> ohhh i found it,, here it is.... forevertheuni   http://thetechshop.org/showthread.php?168-Ubuntu-Installing-Flash-into-Firefox
[02:25] <DasEi> Barridus: I know, but not where it's config is stored
[02:25] <Axlin> dusf_: can you use the gnome desktop? from there you'll be able to install unity-2d
[02:25] <dusf_> Axlin: won't --replace just reinstall the same problem?
[02:25] <Barridus> yeah me neither DasEi
[02:25] <cache_surplus> forevertheuni: read that carefully, and give it a try
[02:25] <Axlin> compiz --replace will restart compiz, which is helpful if it crashes. but if it's not working in the first place, it won't be of much help dusf_
[02:25] <dusf_> Axlin: allow me to clarify for you, it is not just one or two panels that are unresponsive, i cannot interact with anything on the desktop, the mouse cursor moves but i cannot even hilight folders sitting on the desktop
[02:25] <forevertheuni> tnx
[02:26] <forevertheuni> it's really late can't think straight
[02:26] <dusf_> Axlin: tried taking a screenshot etc, no response
[02:26] <ayrton> how do i test if my intel driver is working properly
[02:26] <Axlin> dusf_: yes, so can you log into the gnome desktop at least?
[02:26] <dusf_> Axlin: yes
[02:26] <Barridus> DasEi, actually it's in gconf-editor.  didn't think of that before.  i'll see if this works
[02:27] <dusf_> Axlin: after alt-f2ing up a term how do i get back to gnome/x ?
[02:27] <Axlin> dusf_: and if you install "unity-2d" can you use unity without compiz effects?
[02:27] <Barridus> brb
[02:27] <dusf_> Axlin: please tell me how to install it, unless i just alt+f2 sudo apt-get install unity-2d?
[02:27] <Dogears> Why does Virtualbox need me to reinstall ose-dkms and remove ose-guest-dkms to allow it to start? All was working OK last night?
[02:27] <andygraybeal__> is unity2d available?  or is it slated for the future?
[02:28] <Axlin> dusf_: you'll bring up a terminal and yes, sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[02:28] <andygraybeal__> Axlin, awesome nice.
[02:28] <dusf_> Axlin: and the command do get back to gnome, or shut i just do a shutdown now ?
[02:28] <Tooyota-4Runner> m0ksha: This is what the Results are: => Grub 2 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in      partition #1 for (,msdos1)/boot/grub.
[02:28] <dusf_> s/do/to
[02:28] <dusf_> *should :)
[02:28] <Axlin> dusf_: to get back to gnome, log out and select it as your session before logging back in
[02:28] <skulltip> i find it weird each focused window's menu goes to the top of the bar, whatever it is called
[02:28] <dusf_> Axlin: so type exit? or.. ?
[02:29] <Axlin> dusf_: there's a little power icon in the top right. select it, and then log out
[02:29] <hiexpo> hola
[02:29] <dusf_> Axlin: wait, i thought alt-f2 would bring up the fullscreen term
[02:29] <Axlin> alt+f2 brings up the run dialog. did you mean ctrl-alt-f2?
[02:29] <dusf_> Axlin: the way it's acting i do not suspect it to respond bring up things in gnome
[02:29] <Axlin> if that's the case, ctrl-alt-f7 brings back the GUI
[02:29] <netbook> hey everyone! I have a microphone issue.
[02:29] <dusf_> ok
[02:30] <dusf_> Axlin: thanks. will i bother with compiz --replace or just ctrl-alt-f2 sudo apt-get install unity-2d and ctrl-alt-f7 back?
[02:30] <JoseeAntonioR> I have a doubt. I just want to know if this is real: http://ploum.net/post/102-official-ubuntu-id-cards-announced
[02:31] <tepster> is there a logitech mouse driver? i can't find a setting to control the mouse scroll wheel speed
[02:31] <iconmefisto> JoseeAntonioR: no?
[02:31] <Axlin> compiz --replace will only help if things lock up again, and it's caused by compiz. after installing unity 2d, you'll just log out, select your user name, and select unity 2d from the sessions list at the bottom
[02:31] <skulltip> clutter and unclutter are causing issues with mouse and FPS games, i'm killing 'unclutter'
[02:31] <JoseeAntonioR> iconmefisto Well, thanks.
[02:31] <Axlin> compiz --replace won't do anything for you in unity 2d though dusf_, as compiz isn't used in the 2d version
[02:31] <kindofabuzz> ok knocked myself, the only user, out of the admin group, how can i add myself back when i'm no longer in the sudoers?
[02:31] <tripelb> friends: I did stuff in the kitchen and ...my computer was off. what could have happened. everything was still plugged in.
[02:32] <skulltip> find the 2d interface kind of neat, opengl windowed games play better in 2d
[02:32] <tripelb> chrome said it had a strange shutdown and I could restore all the windows.
[02:32] <taglass> kindofabuzz: boot in single user mode and edit /etc/group
[02:33] <dusf_> Axlin: okay dude, back in 5/10 mins, hopefully from an open source operating system :)
[02:33] <Axlin> heh good luck
[02:33] <xiamx> doesn't single user mode require password too?
[02:34] <netbook> anyone have time to help me stop my mic output.  Its driving me crazy!
[02:35] <skulltip> someday will have live-preview of workspaces :P
[02:35] <xiamx> which port other than 443, 80, 21 is not commonly blocked by college gateway?
[02:36] <sidge> netbook, have you tried the sound prefferences dialog?
[02:36] <netbook> yes, even muting does not solve it
[02:36] <Bigvjc> Hi
[02:37] <sidge> could maybe try alsamixer
[02:37] <Bigvjc> Anyone hetr
[02:37] <netbook> i will attempt... just install alsamixer?
[02:38] <Chuchulain> Bigvjc, hetr?
[02:38] <sidge> its a terminal app, i think its installed be default
[02:38] <iconmefisto> netbook: should be installed
[02:38] <sidge> if not, it can be installed and then run from the terminal
[02:38] <nomad111> hi all im trying to install gnome 3 on maverick. is this the preferred method: http://www.kabindra.com.np/2011/04/how-to-install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/ ?
[02:39] <nomad111> or is there a stable release ppa
[02:39] <netbook> I am installing it now.  Will it automagically be configured, or do I have to switch to it?
[02:40] <sidge> odd that it wasnt allready installed
[02:40] <n-iCe> how do I change what way that SUPER + W work?
[02:40] <Axlin> n-iCe: install "compizconfig-settings-manager" and find it in system settings -> compiz settings -> scale
[02:40] <netbook> in the software center it was called "gnome alsa mixer"
[02:41] <cheapie> Hi. Can anybody help me with building an application from source?
[02:41] <Roasted> Does Ubuntu have any sort of software raid preinstalled? I'm setting up a NAS, where the OS will be on a flash drive and I have two SATA drives. I'm curious about software-raiding them.
[02:41] <sidge> netbook, it should work to type alsamixer in the terminal, which is under accessories
[02:41] <zifty> i installed postfix but i cannot send/receive email, my postconf: http://pastebin.com/LKYgFJsv my error: http://pastebin.com/FKhCpYhK can someone please help?
[02:41] <hiexpo> cheapie, why you trying to compile?
[02:42] <cheapie> Roasted: Yes, Ubuntu has software RAID. It's available from the alt CD.
[02:42] <Roasted> cheapie, it's not included in the repos?
[02:42] <cheapie> Hiexpo: It's a program called Skyscraper.
[02:42] <sidge> netbook you just installed the gui version which might work too, but ive not used it
[02:42] <Bigvjc> Hetr ?
[02:42] <cheapie> Roasted: Nope.
[02:42] <n-iCe> Axlin: thanks!
[02:43] <Roasted> cheapie, can I use mismatching drives? I understand if I use a 160 and 250 I'd have a max of 160 total, but my goal is to at least have some sort of mirroring.
[02:43] <zifty> please?
[02:43] <forevertheuni> hey mate tnx removing gconf and gconfd solved the ubuntu prob
[02:43] <Bigvjc> I cant install app keeps asking for root pass even if I sudo
[02:43] <cheapie> Roasted, I'd recommend LVM if you can use it.
[02:44] <Roasted> cheapie, well, okay... but can I use mismatching drives for raid?
[02:44] <sdwrage> Is there a way to resize the ext4 partition with gparted?
[02:44] <sdwrage> I am noticing I cant
[02:44] <sdwrage> I need space for Windows 7
[02:44] <Roasted> cheapie, also, during the alternate install CD does it ASK me about raid?
[02:44] <Apes> Hello, I'm having trouble setting up PuTTY with Ubuntu. I'm trying to get aptitude and 256-color support, but can only get one or the other. Terminal type xterm-256color gives 256-color. Term type linux gives proper lines in aptitude.
[02:44] <cheapie> Roasted: I don't know. Maybe someone else can help you. As for the 2nd question, it's in the partition setup step. Yes, it asks.
[02:45] <hiexpo> cheapie, what error you getting?
[02:45] <Bigvjc> Trying to install android app maker
[02:46] <cheapie> Hiexpo: All sorts of GTK errors at the make step. Lemme get an example.
[02:46] <sidge> I have a lot of questions about fglrx configuration, where might be a good place to ask?
[02:46] <hiexpo> cheapie, pastebin output
[02:46] <cheapie> @hiexpo: What's that?
[02:46] <dusf> Axlin: okay, back into ubuntu at least :) am i supposed to no longer have an applicaions and places menu etc? my old ubuntu menu had a nice WIne sub menu with all my installed program
[02:47] <hiexpo> !pastebin | cheapie
[02:47] <siick> hello, i just did change a /etc/default/grub to a wrong fb, now screen stays black after boot, is there any way to edit /etc/default/grub from grub's commandline at bootup?
[02:47] <cheapie> Hiexpo: Just a sec then...
[02:48] <hiexpo> cheapie, ok
[02:48] <cache_surplus> im out l8
[02:49] <ivancp> I cant open the addressbok, I get this error: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._e_2ddata_2dbook_2derror.Code100: Cannot open book: Could not create DesktopcouchSession object
[02:49] <m0ksha> Jordan_U: how do you install grub to the MBR?  I've installed grub following the same procedure more or less in all the ubuntu docs
[02:49] <cheapie> Hiexpo: Here's make's output to stderr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602578/
[02:49] <hiexpo> cheapie, ok brb
[02:49] <Chuchulain> siick, there is a way to do it by going into single user mode...i forget the specifics, unfortunately...
[02:49] <sidge> siik, there might be a faster  way, but you can edit /ect/default/grub after booting a live cd
[02:49] <Chuchulain> siick, you don't have access to live cd?
[02:50] <dusf> can i remove the new apple-like dock from the left of 11.04 and get my regular ubuntu, applications, system and places menus back?
[02:50] <cheapie> Dusf: Select "ubuntu classic" when logging in.
[02:51] <taglass> m0ksha: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and choose sda as your destination
[02:51] <fizyplankton> really weird question. would there be any way to reset the keyboard drivers? my capslock key is backwords. meaning if the light is on, i have small letters. and vice versa. it started doing this like 5 mins ago. is there any way to restart the keyboard drivers?
[02:51] <m0ksha> taglass: thanks ill try that
[02:51] <fizyplankton> so yeah, as i type this message, capslock is on
[02:51] <gaelfx> I'm trying to play a DVD, but it doesn't seem to work and the logs show an error about reading scrambled data without authentication, what can I do to fix it?
[02:51] <zifty> ???
[02:52] <cheapie> fizyplankton: Have you tried rebooting? That always fixed it for me.
[02:52] <iconmefisto> fizyplankton: I have something similar, as of today. not capslock, but numlock is backwards
[02:52] <m0ksha> taglass: why do the ubuntu docs say to use grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda?
[02:52] <fizyplankton> if any of yall know how to reset the keyboard drivers? im kind of in a hurry and rebooting isnt that great of an option right now
[02:52] <dusf> cheapie: thanks, gonna give xubuntu a shot too
[02:52] <KM0201> !dvd | gaelfx
[02:52] <hiexpo> cheapie, did you read the readme in the tarball before trying to install ?
[02:53] <fizyplankton> cheapie: i cant really reboot. its not a good time
[02:53] <arquebus> zifty: why dont you go to #postfix?
[02:53] <cheapie> Hiexpo: I'll go check that.
[02:53] <fizyplankton> iconmefisto: have you managed to fix it?
[02:53] <cheapie> fizyplankton: I don't know of anything else to do...
[02:53] <zifty> arquebus: cause i get death threats from them
[02:53] <fizyplankton> i have an idea
[02:53] <iconmefisto> fizyplankton: no, sorry
[02:53] <n-iCe> hi
[02:54] <gaelfx> KM0201: yes, I'm aware, but DVDs play fine in VLC and SMPlayer, except for three recently bought DVDs
[02:54] <siick> fn'Chuchulain, i got a live cd somewhere, wanted to somehow avoid it and try via grub commandline ;(
[02:54] <siick> can i just boot up a livecd and edit/update grub?
[02:54] <KM0201> gaelfx: could have a different encryption on them.
[02:54] <traskers> I'm attempting to get Gnome Shell installed on Ubuntu 11.04 by using the gnome3-team/gnome3 PPA, but when I'm "sudo apt-get dist-upgrading" after an update, I keep running into an error with gir1.2-mutter, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:54] <fizyplankton> dammit. my idea didnt work
[02:55] <cheapie> hiexpo: The readme included with it is for an old version that used configure and jam instead of cmake and make. I tried following the (newer) online readme.\
[02:55] <cheapie> traskers: What's the error?
[02:55] <KM0201> gaelfx: on that page, there's instructions on what to do if dvd's still dont play after installing libdvdread
[02:55] <hiexpo> gaelfx, you havemediabuntu repos installed ?
[02:56] <KM0201> hiexpo: medibuntu isn't required for dvd playback
[02:56] <hiexpo> cheapie, no configure ?
[02:56] <traskers> cheapie, http://pastebin.com/pwjiqtP7
[02:56] <gaelfx> hiexpo: nope
[02:56] <KM0201> gaelfx: you don't need it
[02:56] <KM0201> read that link.. ther'es instructions what to do if dvd's still don't work
[02:57] <cheapie> hiexpo: It uses CMake instead.
[02:57] <fizyplankton> if i unplug a PS/2 keyboard and plug it back in without rebooting, it should work, right?
[02:57] <cheapie> traskers: I don't really know. I told you to share that so that others could help you more easily.
[02:58] <hiexpo> KM0201, oh gues you don't need extrelibdvdnav & libdvdread anymore huh   ok and all the codecs
[02:58] <fizyplankton> if i unplug a PS/2 keyboard and plug it back in without rebooting, it should work, right?
[02:58] <html_inprogress> hi all
[02:58] <cheapie> fizyplankton: Your motherboard can be damaged if you do that.
[02:59] <Blue1> fizyplankton: what cheapie said
[02:59] <KM0201> hiexpo: i've not needed medibuntu, since at least 9.04.. maybe 8.10
[02:59] <taglass> fizyplankton: I've never had an issues doing it, but like cheapie says theoretically you could fry your MB.
[02:59] <cheapie> fizyplankton: You can try a USB keyboard, if you have one.
[02:59] <hiexpo> cheapie, could be a video card issue they mentioned that on there site
[03:00] <fizyplankton> nah i dont have a USB keyboard. ill try just rebooting X
[03:00] <cheapie> hiexpo: I have an ATI radeon HD 5770 with fglrx installed.
[03:00] <fizyplankton> praise the lord for screen sessions
[03:01] <hiexpo> KM0201, so you don'tuse libdvdnav ,libdvdread nor libdvdcss
[03:01] <taglass> fizyplankton: Amen.  I think it goes the wheel, sliced bread, screen
[03:01] <KM0201> hiexpo: i do exactly what that link i plastered above sais, and yes, it installs libdvdread.. did you bother reading the lnk?
[03:01] <dusf> Axlin: ty for help
[03:01] <hiexpo> KM0201, nope
[03:01] <fizyplankton> tgm4883: what? the wheel, sliced bread, screen?
[03:02] <fizyplankton> oh
[03:02] <KM0201> hiexpo: the why are you constantly questioning me as to whether i've actually made this work or not
[03:02] <fizyplankton> i get it. inventions
[03:02] <hiexpo> KM0201, what the link ?
[03:02] <KM0201> !dvd | hiexpo
[03:02] <cheapie> hiexpo: I also forgot to mention that the video card issue is with the older "Alpha" versions on the front page. The development version (which I'm trying to build) doesn't have those issues. (It has a different graphics engine called OGRE instead of Crystal Space. Also, I do have OGRE installed.)
[03:02] <bazhang> !dvd > hiexpo
[03:03] <bp0> something is messud up with nvidia and 11.04
[03:03] <balr0g> hello guys, can anyone bring me some help on Update Manager and apt-get: look this image from Update Manager: http://imagebin.org/151407 and this pastebin form apt-get: http://pastebin.com/KfkhSYyh i already tried googling this, but i found solutions not good looking as uninstalling tar! please help guys!
[03:04] <fizyplankton> WOOOOO it works. praise the good lorg for ctrl-alt-backspace and screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:04] <gaelfx> KM0201: what exactly does the libdvdcss thing do?
[03:04] <fizyplankton> lord*
[03:04] <KM0201> gaelfx: it breaks the enctryption on DVD's so they can be read.
[03:04] <KM0201> gaelfx: basically.
[03:04] <yxz97> I need a job in USA
[03:05] <yxz97> to earn good money
[03:05] <yxz97> as Java developer
[03:05] <traskers> I'm attempting to get Gnome Shell installed on Ubuntu 11.04 by using the gnome3-team/gnome3 PPA, but when I'm "sudo apt-get dist-upgrading" after an update, I keep running into an error with gir1.2-mutter, can anyone point me in the right direction? The error is: http://pastebin.com/pwjiqtP7
[03:05] <bazhang> yxz97, offtopic here
[03:05] <cheapie> balr0g: I think you might actually have to reinstall tar.
[03:05] <gaelfx> ah, yes, the reward for buying a legitimate DVD in China is that you have to break the law to watch it
[03:05] <yxz97> optionally coding Adobe flex as well
[03:05] <yxz97> :(
[03:05] <gaelfx> they REALLY don't want you to follow the rules here
[03:05] <bazhang> yxz97, this is not the channel for that
[03:05] <balr0g> cheapie, i think tar will be needed to install tar!!
[03:05] <tortoise> Hey guys, I just bought a Nikon d3000 today and i'm trying to look at the software in came with, but the software is made for only OSX and Windows. Could someone help to get it to work with lucid?
[03:06] <KM0201> tortoise: its unlikely it will work w/linux... is that a camera?
[03:06] <AndrewR_SM> Request for help: I just upgraded to 11.04 on my Dell Inspiron 1720. It says it doesn't see any network devices. I have the latest broadcom driver installed(99% sure) and it won't detect any wireless networks or even the ethernet cable. Please help?
[03:06] <yxz97> bazhang, which is it?
[03:06] <cheapie> balr0g: I think 7-zip can uncompress it, if you have it installed. Also, you can uncompress it on a different computer.
[03:06] <tortoise> KM0201: yes it is, would it be possibly to get it to work in Wine?
[03:06] <bazhang> !alis | yxz97
[03:06] <cheapie> tortoise: Have you tried Wine yet?
[03:07] <bazhang> yxz97, /join #freenode
[03:07] <tortoise> cheapie: I was going to, but I've never used Wine and don't even know where to start
[03:07] <balr0g> cheapie, i dont like this... why do you think is tar problem? did you see the image from Update Manager i posted?
[03:07] <KM0201> tortoise: very unlikely.. wine doesn't work w/ hardware (which is what you'd be asking it to do).. just plug the camera in, and most likely it will be detected as a flash drive, and you can drag/drop off of it.. then use gimp or whatever, to fix your images
[03:07] <pie_> why is there no taskbar? *crying*
[03:07] <tortoise> KM0201: I've already tried it. Also, I don't think wine would need to work with hardware for it to work with Nikon's software.
[03:07] <KM0201> tortoise: it might work in wine, but i've never gotten wine to work w/ hardware (thus why wine won't work w/ itunes to sync ipods, or zune software to sync zunes, etc..)
[03:08] <pie_> ok so i just ran the upgrader from cd after running from hdd screwed up my box
[03:08] <pie_> and the gui is all screwy and im pretty clueless on using it
[03:08] <KM0201> tortoise: you want the nikon to see the camera, correct?.. tell me how it's gonna do that, w/o working w/ hardware
[03:08] <cheapie> balr0g: It says "subprocess tar killed by signal (Segmentation fault)" in the apt-get output. Looks like a tar problem to me.
[03:08] <tortoise> KM0201: OH wow. I misread your first message. Well, an attempt is always worth it.
[03:08] <pie_> can someone link me to a help doc because i dotn know how to open firefox...
[03:08] <tortoise> KM0201: but again, I've never used wine before, so how would I even begin?
[03:08] <balr0g> cheapie, what about Update Manager, i went to apt-get after failing on Update manager (GUI boy ;))
[03:09] <KM0201> tortoise: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1447104&page=2   amazing what google shows...
[03:09] <cheapie> pie_: What desktop are you using, and what's it doing?
[03:10] <cheapie> balr0g: "Update Mangler" uses aptdaemon as a backend, which uses dpkg, which uses dpkg-deb, which uses tar.
[03:10] <AndrewR_SM> Any thoughts on my lack of networking..?
[03:10] <pie_> i think its unity
[03:10] <cheapie> @tortoise: Just install it from the software center.
[03:10] <pie_> im just totally disoriented
[03:10] <cheapie> tortoise: Just install it from the software center.
[03:11] <pie_> its whatever comes with 11.04
[03:11] <cheapie> pie_: Have you tried a different option at the login screen?
[03:12] <tortoise> KM0201: thanks, and I'm sorry for wasting your 6 minutes when I could've googled it. I should have never disturbed your peace.
[03:12] <hiexpo> gaelfx, what dvds you tring to play ?
[03:12] <KM0201> tortoise: youd idn't bother me.. lol, just saying, google turns up a lot of hits on it (most don't seem tog et it to work)
[03:12] <cheapie> pie: More importantly, does the "Recovery Console" option at the login screen work? You should be able to run "unity --reset" then "exit" from there.
[03:12] <jep> hey guys, my ubuntu boot isn't detecting my pcix ethernet card. when i do 'lshw -C network', it as well as the board's nic show up as 'DISABLED'. I do a 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up' (eth1 is the pcix nic), but still nothing and rebooting makes it disabled again. /etc/network/interfaces only contained the two 'lo' entries so i added ones for eth0 and eth1 (before reboot). Any ideas? I've been out
[03:12] <jep> for like a week now.
[03:13] <tortoise> KM0201: yeah, tbh I skipped google this time because I figured someone here could at least tell me how to do it in wine faster than i could find it on google. lol
[03:13] <KM0201> tortoise: the chances of it working wine, are slim to be honest.. but if you insist, ask in #wine
[03:14] <bazhang> #winehq
[03:14] <balr0g> cheapie, i dont want to unistall tar, how to install it again? i will reboot and try apt-get first of any other package manager and see if i got the same issue, brb...
[03:14] <tortoise> KM0201: okay, I will if nothing in this thread works
[03:14] <KM0201> tortoise: sorry, #winehq
[03:14] <Omega> !wifi | jep
[03:14] <AndrewR_SM> OK, I guess I'll leave since I'm getting ignored...
[03:14] <WhatWhereAmI> Hey, i tried to install BURG and i think the installation broke somewhere. I only get "GRUB loading." and nothing else.
[03:14] <Omega> jep: I don't know the answer myself, but maybe that helps.
[03:14] <cheapie> balr0g: You can try recovery mode from the grub menu too.
[03:15] <jep> Omega: it's not wifi
[03:15] <balr0g> cheapie, also will be looking at that.. brb...
[03:15] <cheapie> AndrewR_SM: What's your problem?
[03:15] <hiexpo> AndrewR_SM, whats wrong?
[03:15] <AndrewR_SM> Thanks for the response. " Request for help: I just upgraded to 11.04 on my Dell Inspiron 1720. It says it doesn't see any network devices. I have the latest broadcom driver installed(99% sure) and it won't detect any wireless networks or even the ethernet cable. Please help?"
[03:15] <chaospsyche> what's the command to remove unity?
[03:16] <Guest9581> youtube video isn't working for me
[03:16] <hiexpo> !broadcam | AndrewR_SM
[03:16] <AndrewR_SM> !broadcom
[03:16] <cheapie> AndrewR_SM: I can't help it, so I'll say it - Broadcom: Incompatibility at it's finest.
[03:16] <hakeon_> how can i fix impress blank slides when viewed by MS?
[03:17] <pie_> cheapie, to be honest i actually didnt look there :/
[03:17] <pie_> i just dont know what the hell im doing
[03:17] <cheapie> hakeon_: You may want to ask the OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice community about that.
[03:17] <pie_> i think it works
[03:17] <cheapie> pie_: Yay!
[03:17] <pie_> because irc comes up automatically
[03:17] <jep> why would the ethernet suddenly stop being detected?
[03:17] <pie_> im just totally disoriented
[03:17] <AndrewR_SM> Where I'm confused is that everything was working fine before the upgrade. Also, because ethernet isn't working I can't apt-get/use package managers. Is there a way that I can just de-upgrade? Everything was working fine...
[03:18] <pie_> new gui, y u no come with tutorial?
[03:18] <chaospsyche> 11.04 is buggy andrew
[03:18] <cheapie> pie_: What's making you so "disoriented"?
[03:18] <hakeon_> thx cheapie - i've tried... sigh... it seems there isn't any fix... how can that be true?
[03:18] <jep> i guess i have to reinstall the os?
[03:18] <AndrewR_SM> Annoying that it was a recommending upgrade, then. Is there a way to safely go backwards?
[03:18] <chaospsyche> jep try 10.10
[03:18] <jep> i am on 10.10
[03:18] <pie_> cheapie, ive managed to figure out where the file and such menus are(theyre at the top where the ..."dtart menu" was)
[03:19] <chaospsyche> jep: and your having problems?
[03:19] <pie_> but where did the bar with the "start menu" go and wheres the task bar
[03:19] <pie_> (pardon my windows terms i dont know what you call those)
[03:19] <jep> yes
[03:19] <cheapie> pie_: Yep. They can be hard to see.
[03:19] <jep> i installed a pci-x ethernet card and 10.10 isn't detecting it
[03:19] <pie_> and how do i get the equivalent of such menu again
[03:19] <chaospsyche> is unity a module of the linux kernel in 11.04 ?
[03:19] <jep> but i'm using it on windows right now
[03:19] <netbook> alsa fixed it! thanks!
[03:19] <cheapie> pie_: You're using unity, right? With that dock on the left?
[03:20] <nabi> I can sharing a folder on partion fat32 or NTFS. and show me that on new machine, but when I try to open a folder shared, get me error!
[03:20] <pie_> oh wow....how did i miss that?
[03:20] <pie_> now i gotta figure out how the hell that works...
[03:20] <pie_> looooong day :(
[03:20] <cheapie> pie_: It's just like Windows 7.
[03:20] <floodplain> hi all, can  i  install the font Arial Narrow on ubuntu or is it just not going to happen?
[03:21] <pie_> to be honest i find windows/old ubuntu a lot mor intuitive but thanks ive got a launch point now
[03:21] <chaospsyche> i'm getting 'artifacts' in my UI and yes I am on 'ubuntu classic(no effects)'
[03:21] <taglass> floodplain: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[03:21] <cheapie> pie_: It's easy to get the old look and behavior back.
[03:22] <chaospsyche> i upgraded(fresh install) to 11.04
[03:22] <floodplain> taglass: cheers thanks, i thought i read that arial narrow wasn't included in that.
[03:22] <chaospsyche> didn't have this problem with 10.10
[03:22] <taglass> floodplain: or ttf-liberation which has an Arial lookalike
[03:22] <cheapie> chaospsyche: ...like things getting "stuck" on the screen?
[03:22] <pie_> might as well go with th enew since thats how itll be onwards, and the supports mainly going to be for th enew gui no?
[03:22] <chaospsyche> cheapie: yes, why? you have same problem ?
[03:22] <cheapie> pie_: From what I know, yes.
[03:23] <FHtrain> help i'm on ubuntu 11.04 and i cant get the seconds to show on the clock. i click on 'time & date settings' and nothing happens
[03:23] <cheapie> chaospsyche: It's a known problem. Somebody on the forum had it.
[03:23] <chaospsyche> cheapie: is there a solution ?
[03:23] <floodplain> taglass: hmm, turns out i have both packages up to date
[03:23] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Is Flash player up to date? That is what was causing the other guy's problem.
[03:24] <Ming1> hello
[03:24] <floodplain> taglass: do you know will a web page with arial narrow auto degrade to a similar font?
[03:24] <chaospsyche> cheapie: let me try that
[03:24] <cheapie> chaospsyche: OK. I can wait.
[03:24] <sidge> netbook, im glad i managed to solve yout troublers :)  I have sound problems i never manage to toally beat it seems
[03:24] <tortoise> KM0201: if you're interested, I just now found the sd slot on my computer. so no need for software (other than fspot). Thanks for the link!
[03:24] <tbruff13> I need help with ubuntu 11.04 please
[03:24] <Arowana> Hello all
[03:25] <KM0201> tortoise: well that solves the prob w/o the camera then.. great.
[03:25] <cheapie> tbruff13: What's wrong?
[03:25] <killer_> How to I configure my application menu?
[03:25] <gaelfx> hiexpo: National Geographic natury stuff
[03:25] <vasudan> Hi, could someone help me remove Avast antivirus?  I installed it and I have no idea how to remove it!
[03:25] <vasudan> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 32 bit
[03:25] <tbruff13> cheapie, i cant figure out how to install compiz settings manager
[03:25] <tbruff13> cheapie, compiz-core: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but 1:4.5.2-8ubuntu4 is to be installed
[03:25] <tbruff13>              Depends: libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0) but 2:1.0.7-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:25] <tbruff13>              Depends: libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1) but 1:1.1.3-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:25] <tbruff13>              Depends: libxfixes3 (>= 1:4.0.1) but 1:4.0.5-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:26] <chaospsyche> why would the flash plugin cause this? doesnt make sense
[03:26] <Omega> vasudan: how did you install it?
[03:26] <vasudan> Omega: I downloaded the .deb file from their website, and installed it.
[03:26] <cheapie> tbruff13: Can you run sudo aptitude install compiz-core and see what that recommends to solve it?
[03:26] <smrz> After installing natty, rebooting, I get a desktop with no panels, and have no ability to bring up the unity dash... has anyone had this issue? advice to start diagnosing it?
[03:26] <Neo_Kipling> scan my new ubuntu 11.04, it has "1080/tcp open  tcpwrapped", what's this for? how can i close it?
[03:26] <sidge> anyone ever set up fglrx/grub/kernel terminlas to the same resolution? is it possible/worth doing at 1080p
[03:26] <chaospsyche> vasudan: synaptic ?
[03:27] <vasudan> chaos: No, when I double clicked the .deb file, it installed through Ubuntu software center.
[03:27] <cheapie> chaospsyche: I don't know why. It just does.
[03:27] <jeffrash> is there anyone around that can explain why ubuntu can get the broadcom b43 support consistent?
[03:27] <chaospsyche> are drivers loaded into the kernel as modules?
[03:27] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Most are, some aren't.
[03:28] <chaospsyche> i'm thinking it has something to do with the kernel/module
[03:28] <vasudan> I tried double clicking it again, it opened software center, and I only see an option to "reinstall", no remove.  This sucks, I hate Avast.
[03:28] <chaospsyche> because this is a newer kernel version than 10.10
[03:28] <chaospsyche> the default kernel when you install 10.10
[03:28] <vasudan> They shouldn't force people like this to keep software we don't want on our computers by not providing an option to uninstall.
[03:28] <jeffrash> I understand thanks
[03:28] <tbruff13> cheapie, it says 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded
[03:28] <chaospsyche> cheapie: should i reboot? no effect so far
[03:28] <chaospsyche> vasudan: you have to use synaptic
[03:29] <chaospsyche> or the terminal
[03:29] <cheapie> tbruff13: Did it say anything else?
[03:29] <tbruff13> cheapie, no
[03:29] <jeffrash> But why does support come and go every time
[03:29] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Well, you can try.
[03:29] <cheapie> tbruff13: Did you run it in a regular terminal?
[03:29] <vasudan> chaos: I tried searching in synaptic but didn't find it.  Via terminal, I didn't find the package name.  Tried typing avast, avastgui etc
[03:29] <jeffrash> it works in one release and doesn't two releases later then it works for two more and stops again
[03:30] <vasudan> Thanks for your help guys btw, appreciate it :)
[03:30] <Omega> vasudan: do you know where the package is?
[03:30] <Omega> I know how to remove it, don't go!
[03:30] <tbruff13> cheapie, no the new buyou terminal what does that mean
[03:30] <vasudan> Still here
[03:30] <Omega> vasudan: do you know where the deb is downloaded to?
[03:30] <vasudan> The .deb package?  It is in my downloads folder.  If you're asking where it installed, I think it's under Home/.Avast
[03:31] <tbruff13> cheapie, just ran in regular terminal same result
[03:31] <Pretto> how can i register my icon for use with my application into the system?
[03:31] <noobiest> anyone can help me about debconf error?
[03:31] <cheapie> tbruff13: I don't know what's going on then.
[03:31] <cheapie> vasudan: What's the file called?
[03:31] <balr0g> hello guyss, cheapie are you there? what is happening to me? look this: http://pastebin.com/YMyCNLzt
[03:32] <prodigel> hi all. I'm tryng to configure postfix + smtp auth using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix#Authentication but I'm not sure if it works.
[03:32] <tbruff13> cheapie, how about i try to install compiz settings manager through synaptic
[03:32] <vasudan> cheapie: It's avast4workstation_1.3.0-2_i386
[03:32] <yuskhanzab> anyone having problem to control mouse after updating wine to version 1.3.19?
[03:32] <jeffrash> How do I get this issue higher on Ubuntu priority list?
[03:32] <tbruff13> cheapie, how do i switch unity buttons to the rights side like x
[03:32] <Ziber> Anyone here familiar with skype on ubuntu 10.10?
[03:32] <cheapie> balr0g: That doesn't look good. I'm not sure what happened.
[03:32] <Ziber> Having a problem sharing my screen...
[03:33] <prodigel> I see 250-starttls, but 250-auth on it's own line I don't. Rather I see 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN and 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN. Anyone experienced with postfix/smtp?
[03:33] <balr0g> =(
[03:33] <cheapie> vasudan: Try sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation
[03:33] <Omega> vasudan: in the terminal enter the following: sudo dpkg --purge <the package name>
[03:33] <fr00g> Okay, when I search in Synaptic, I only have one linux-image installed
[03:33] <Omega> vasudan: sudo dpkg --purge avast4workstation_1.3.0-2_i386
[03:33] <cheapie> tbruff13: The first question: well, you can try. The second question: I don't think that's possible yet.
[03:33] <fr00g> That is 2.6.38, but grub is showing a bunch of 2.6.35-x kernels
[03:34] <Axlin> tbruff13: gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[03:34] <Axlin> tbruff13: but maximized windows will still have them on the left
[03:34] <chaospsyche> If I remove unity and reboot I won't be dropped to a command prompt will i?
[03:34] <chaospsyche> a complete removal
[03:34] <Neo_Kipling> nmap -A 127.0.0.1   get: 1080/tcp open  tcpwrapped . ubuntu 11.04, anyone please tell me what's this daemon
[03:34] <vasudan> omega & cheapie:  Thanks guys, I typed sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation and it uninstalled!
[03:35] <vasudan> You guys rock, thanks a bunch! :)
[03:35] <tbruff13> cheapie, is compiz possible because i am confused
[03:35] <hellobyebye> what window manager would you guys suggest for someone who is looking to move away from traditional "Window style" as muh as possible?
[03:35] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Select "Ubuntu Classic" when logging in and you should be fine.
[03:35] <cheapie> tbruff13: What?
[03:35] <chaospsyche> cheapie im using that
[03:35] <noobiest> my debconf freeze after install package ubuntu restricted extras i kill it via sysmonitor then i must partially upgrade i cant use ubuntu software again?
[03:35] <esx> hellobyebye: Xmonad
[03:35] <cheapie> chaospsyche: You should be fine then.
[03:35] <chaospsyche> im not fine
[03:36] <chaospsyche> i've got gfx artifacts all over my UI
[03:36] <hiexpo> hellobyebye, gnome i like
[03:36] <cheapie> chaospsyche: What kind of artifacts?
[03:36] <Omega> vasudan: try sudo apt-get purge avast4workstation
[03:36] <chaospsyche> graphic artifacts
[03:36] <Omega> that removes all the configs it left behind too
[03:36] <chaospsyche> blocks lines dots
[03:36] <LEONSANTIL2> hola
[03:36] <hellobyebye> i've used gnome for a while and kind of want something different
[03:36] <hellobyebye> im thinking of giving openbox a go
[03:36] <LEONSANTIL2> fui baneado de anonymous
[03:36] <chaospsyche> openbox?
[03:37] <LEONSANTIL2> me dijeron quese estaban reagrupando aca
[03:37] <LEONSANTIL2> manden mp
[03:37] <hellobyebye> yes
[03:37] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Try Alt+F2, then type 'compiz --replace' As for openbox, it's a different window manager.
[03:37] <vasudan> Omega: Thanks , it worked!  Brilliant - thank you!  I'm going to post on ubuntuforums now, on how to do this.
[03:37] <Omega> hellobyebye: openbox isn't a desktop environment, it's just a window manager
[03:37] <noobiest> my debconf freeze after install package ubuntu restricted extras i kill it via sysmonitor then i must partially upgrade i cant use ubuntu software again?
[03:37] <Omega> vasudan: :)
[03:37] <chaospsyche> vasudan: you used synaptic?
[03:38] <hellobyebye> notice i said window manager not desktop environment
[03:38] <hellobyebye> what is your point?
[03:38] <vasudan> chaospsyche: no, removed it through the terminal :)
[03:38] <cheapie> chaospsyche: I just wanted to let you know that Openbox works best with the Fluxbox desktop environment, at least for me.
[03:38] <chaospsyche> vasudan: rm <package name> ?
[03:38] <tbruff13> cheapie, this is what i get The following NEW packages will be installed:
[03:38] <tbruff13>   compizconfig-settings-manager{a} python-compizconfig{a} simple-ccsm
[03:38] <tbruff13> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[03:38] <tbruff13>   geoclue{u} geoclue-ubuntu-geoip{u} indicator-datetime{u} libgeoclue0{u}
[03:38] <tbruff13>   libglew1.5{u} libglewmx1.5{u} libglib2.0-bin{u} libnux-0.9-0{u}
[03:38] <FloodBot1> tbruff13: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:38] <tbruff13>   libnux-0.9-common{u} libunity-misc0{u} libzeitgeist-1.0-1{u} nux-tools{u}
[03:39] <vasudan> chaospsyche: sudo apt-get remove avast4workstation worked for me
[03:39] <chaospsyche> cheapie: that command didn't work,what did it do ?
[03:39] <chaospsyche> in fact
[03:39] <chaospsyche> it's worse now
[03:39] <tbruff13> hello
[03:40] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Try 'metacity --replace' to turn off effects and see what happens.
[03:40] <Arowana> bye
[03:40] <noobiest> i hav problem natty with debconf :(
[03:40] <LEONSANTIL2> anonymous ban me!! wtf!
[03:40] <cheapie> tbruff13: Well, that's strange... IDK what to say about that.
[03:40] <chaospsyche> omg now the screen is borked,i cant click nothing,no menu bars
[03:40] <LEONSANTIL2> anonymous no more free
[03:40] <tbruff13> cheapie, what do i do
[03:40] <LEONSANTIL2> is controlled
[03:40] <chaospsyche> metatase\
[03:41] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Try restarting and select "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects" at the login screen.
[03:41] <oneliner> gnash==flawless open source flash player, excelent stuff right there,
[03:42] <chaospsyche> cheapie: what was the command again? i had to reboot
[03:42] <killer_> Is there a way to allow for double-clicking on the left most application icon to close the application? (Instead of quickly opening then closing the application menu)
[03:43] <Ta0nkZ01d2> exit
[03:43] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Try logging in, but select "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects) in the drop-down box first.
[03:44] <noobiest> cheapie: do u know how to fix debconf?
[03:44] <chaospsyche> cheapie: i have done that,and i am in that now
[03:44] <cheapie> noobiest: What's wrong?
[03:44] <chaospsyche> that only partly fixes it
[03:44] <cheapie> chaospsyche: What is it doing now?
[03:44] <chaospsyche> there is something that is causing a conflict with whatever is handling the displaying of the UI
[03:45] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Do you have a LiveCD that you can try?
[03:45] <chaospsyche> cheapie: let me show you a screen capture
[03:45] <chaospsyche> cheapie: 11.04 live cd is the same thing
[03:45] <chaospsyche> i dont have this problem on 10.10
[03:45] <chaospsyche> but on 10.10 my wireless usb adapter doesnt work. it works with 11.04 and being as that is the only way i can get on the net i want to use 11.04
[03:46] <hiexpo> oneliner, so gnash is good ?
[03:46] <antonio_> hola buenas noches soy novato en ubuntu y necesito ayuda sobre como instalar openproj
[03:46] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Do you have any proprietary drivers (fglrx, etc.) installed?
[03:46] <tbruff13> cheapie, i used synaptic to reinstall everything compiz related
[03:46] <antonio_> hola buenas noches soy novato en ubuntu y necesito ayuda sobre como instalar openproj
[03:46] <chaospsyche> nope,i have a intel 82865g onboard vga
[03:46] <hiexpo> !es
[03:46] <oneliner> hiexpo yes
[03:46] <cheapie> tbruff13: I don't know what's going on in your case. Sorry.
[03:47] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Does jockey pop up any notifications?
[03:47] <hiexpo> oneliner, does it work with firefox
[03:47] <chaospsyche> jockey?
[03:47] <ChaoticDark> hey, tryin to run Wubi to install alongside Win7, get the popup "There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \Device\Harddisk1\DR1." with the title "pyrun.exe - No Disk".
[03:47] <vasudan> Do you guys know which is the best antivirus for Ubuntu?  I dual boot and email files to Windows users, so want to make sure I'm not inadvertently spreading.
[03:47] <antonio_> ok gracias
[03:47] <noobiest> cheapie:freeze debconf first appear EULA then freeze i after i install ubuntu restricted extras, i killed via system monitor then i open updatemanager,should i run partial upgrade?
[03:47] <JoseeAntonioR> Guys, I'm having a trouble. My Unity sidebar doesn't auto-hide and it covers part of the full-screen opened window.
[03:48] <vike> hi, my mail notification for evolution is not working in ubuntu 11.04, anybody know how to get it working?
[03:48] <rage> vasudan: I havent used it much recently, but I've had some good experiences with clamav
[03:48] <oneliner> hiexpo, my firefox had cranky and broken animation rendering, is normal now, 64bit sistem
[03:48] <cheapie> noobiest: Can you try that and tell me if it wants to remove packages?
[03:48] <chaospsyche> can someone tell me how to use an older kernel with 11.04
[03:48] <cheapie> chaospsyche: It's the "Additional Drivers" thing.
[03:48] <QaDeS> antonio_,  http://sourceforge.net/projects/openproj/files/OpenProj%20Binaries/1.4/openproj_1.4-2.deb/download
[03:49] <chaospsyche> cheapie: Oh, nah it doesnt say nothing
[03:49] <cheapie> vasudan: I also recommend ClamAV.
[03:49] <chaospsyche> cheapie: how do i show you this screen capture of my desktop ?
[03:49] <hiexpo> oneliner, oh ok am useing 10.04 32  with 2.6.38.5 kernal so i will try itthanks
[03:49] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Not even when you open it?
[03:49] <vasudan> rage: Thanks, will check it out.
[03:49] <chaospsyche> it says no proprietary drivers are in use
[03:49] <cheapie> !pastebin | chaospsyche
[03:49] <vasudan> cheapie: Thanks, will check it out.
[03:50] <ChaoticDark> hey, tryin to run Wubi to install alongside Win7, immediately get the popup "There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \Device\Harddisk1\DR1." with the title "pyrun.exe - No Disk".
[03:50] <noobiest> cheapie: a partail upgrade is harmless?
[03:50] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Can you try sudo apt-get update, then check the additional drivers window again?
[03:50] <chaospsyche> cheapie: http://imagebin.org/151416
[03:50] <cheapie> noobiest: As long as it doesn't want to remove anything.
[03:51] <vike>  hi, my mail notification for evolution is not working in ubuntu 11.04, anybody know how to get it working?
[03:51] <cheapie> chaospsyche: If there are any updates, try installing them and see if that works.
[03:51] <hiexpo> vike, what mail service you useing ?
[03:51] <vike> imap
[03:51] <chaospsyche> cheapie: after 'sudo apt-get update' it is the same. no proprietary drivers in use
[03:51] <noobiest> wait i must reboot bcoz my ubuntu center freeze and nt gonna lock
[03:51] <chaospsyche> cheapie: done that
[03:51] <noobiest> i see u latter'
[03:52] <chaospsyche> cheapie: how can I use the kernel from 10.10 that is installed by default
[03:52] <hiexpo> vike, maybe try thunderbird
[03:52] <cheapie> chaospsyche: I'm sorry, but I don't know how to help you now.
[03:52] <chaospsyche> :-(
[03:52] <IdleOne> noobiest: I recommend you avoid doing partial upgrades, they usually don't turn out well. hold off on the upgrade for a few hours
[03:52] <vike> ok, thks
[03:52] <cheapie> chaospsyche: There are more of us...
[03:52] <chaospsyche> you see what I am talking about in the screen capture i showed you though?
[03:53] <fr00g> Grub currently shows Windows Recovery Environment (on /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3) how do I get rid of these entries?
[03:53] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Yes.
[03:53] <chaospsyche> cheapie: what would you say that is?
[03:53] <izinucs> Ok.. Where's skype hiding in the repos?  I've enabled partners and the others with no results
[03:53] <kjxl9> hey guys, i plugged in a controller, how do i configure it?
[03:53] <chaospsyche> can someone help me install an older kernel into 11.04 ?
[03:53] <cheapie> chaospsyche: Looks like a driver issue to me. If you have a 10.10 LiveCD, you can try that to see if it's hardware or software/
[03:54] <chaospsyche> cheapie: i don't have this issue with 10.10 but on 10.10 my wireless usb adapter doesnt work. thats why i want to use 11.04
[03:54] <cheapie> chaospsyche: You can add the maverick repos and install a kernel from there. Might not work out well though.
[03:54] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, what kernal you currently useing ?
[03:54] <junco> greetings! Is it possible to disable the new Unity sidebar but KEEP the new global menu in ubuntu 11? (Using Ubuntu Classic disables both...)
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[03:54] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: command to find out?
[03:55] <IdleOne> !skype > izinucs
[03:55] <MarconM> afffs ... this again
[03:55] <Karen_m> it seems you do not have the hardware to run unity?  what the ?
[03:55] <izinucs> IdleOne: thanks
[03:55] <IdleOne> izinucs: there are plugins for skype in the repos but not skype itself
[03:56] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, dpkg -L | grep linux-image
[03:56] <IdleOne> izinucs: rather plugins for pidgin to work with skype...
[03:56] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: dpkg -L | grep linux-image
[03:57] <chaospsyche> oops
[03:57] <Karen_m> what do you need for a video card to run unity on ubuntu?
[03:57] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, yes
[03:57] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: dpkg-query: error: --listfiles needs at least one package name argument
[03:57] <yuskhanzab> where to get audacious equalizer preset?
[03:57] <trism> chaospsyche: dpkg -l 'linux-image*';
[03:57] <Rehan> is there a way i can transfer my currently installed ubuntu partition to my USB flash drive and just have it boot from there?
[03:57] <izinucs> IdleOne: hummm.. the command is the one I tried a few minutes ago and now it works.. sudo apt-get install skype.. seems to be working.. with that installed you mean I can also install the plugins for pidgeon etc right?
[03:58] <kjxl9> hey guys, i plugged in a controller, how do i configure it?
[03:58] <Karen_m> Ive got a : Nvidia geforce 9500, and it won't run unity.. what gives?
[03:58] <Karen_m> geforce 9500 gt
[03:58] <cheapie> kjxl9: What kind of controller?
[03:58] <izinucs> Karen_m: on the live cd?
[03:58] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: http://pastie.org/1859049  <---output of command
[03:58] <kjxl9> a gaming controller
[03:58] <Karen_m> No, i installed it
[03:58] <IdleOne> izinucs: apt-cache search skype   that will show you the packages I was talking about.
[03:58] <Karen_m> izinucs, upgrade from 10.10
[03:58] <cheapie> kjxl9: What kind of gaming controller?
[03:59] <izinucs> Karen_m: have you don't all your upgrades yet?
[03:59] <Nightshades> Anyone know anything about the tuxdroid?
[03:59] <kjxl9> like the brand?
[03:59] <cheapie> kjxl9: And model, if available.
[03:59] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: do you know how to compile a kernel with an added functionality and install it?
[03:59] <Karen_m> izinucs, yes, nothing else is listing .. i checked
[03:59] <kjxl9> a usb recoil controller is all i know about it
[03:59] <killer_> What is Metacity?  I received a popup error regarding it
[03:59] <kjxl9> gimme a minute and i can have details
[03:59] <cheapie> killer_: Metacity is a window manager.
[04:00] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: because i want to go back to 10.10 but in 10.10 my wireless usb adapter doesn't work so i want to add that func to the kernel ?
[04:00] <izinucs> Karen_m: strage.. works fine for me on an 8200.. on 10.10 did you install the driver dirct from nvidia or from the repos?
[04:01] <kjxl9> ok its a GGE909 PC recoil pad
[04:01] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, oh i see what your doing now you can't revert to an older version though  but ifi were you i would do afresh of 10.04
[04:02] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: will my wireless usb adapter work in 10.04 ?
[04:02] <chaospsyche> what is the diff between .04 and .10 ?
[04:02] <cheapie> kjxl9: It appears that that device is not supported.
[04:02] <kjxl9> oh
[04:02] <kjxl9> poop
[04:02] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, what cardis it ?
[04:02] <Karen_m> izinucs, it seems they disabled my nvidia driver on the upgrade, i'm re-enabling and rebooting
[04:03] <cheapie> kjxl9: You can try "sudo modprobe joydev" but that's unlikely to do anything.
[04:03] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: it's a wireless usb adapter and its a 'belkin basic wireless usb adapter '
[04:04] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: it works on 11.04 but not 10.10. haven't tried 10.04
[04:04] <kjxl9> yeah, nothing happened
[04:04] <chaospsyche> but why would it work on 10.04 if it doesn't work on 10.10. isn't that an older version ?
[04:04] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, what model and chipset ?
[04:04] <twiggy_> hey can someone tell me how to change the color of the text in the unity top panel in 11.04
[04:04] <killer_> I'm trying to apply special effects to my windows/GUI via Compiz.  On my laptop, I have done this by accessing it in the start menu but on my desktop (system i'm sitting at now) I cannot find Compiz in the start menu.  I have checked to verify it is installed by looking for the package in Synaptic.  Suggestions?
[04:05] <kjxl9> how do i enable my wireless?
[04:05] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: how do i find out?
[04:05] <cheapie> kjxl9: Good. Now try "joy2key  -dev /dev/input/js0"
[04:05] <JoshDreamland> How do I get APNG support?
[04:05] <twiggy_> @killer_: you need to install compizconfig-system-manager
[04:05] <JoshDreamland> there doesn't seem to be a libapng package.
[04:06] <kjxl9> umm i would have to install it first
[04:06] <chaospsyche> what's the command to find out?
[04:06] <cheapie> kjxl9: OK, yeah...try running "sudo apt-get install joy2key" first.
[04:07] <kjxl9> gimme a minute to copy this down
[04:07] <chaospsyche> how do i find out what chipset is in my wireless usb adapter
[04:08] <killer_> twiggy: Ty.  worked like a charm
[04:08] <ngc604> has anyone here ran ubuntu desktop on a rack mount server?
[04:08] <hesterprynne> how do i change the color of the text in the top bar of unity in 11.04?
[04:08] <kjxl9> it says "Error opening /dev/input/js0! are you sure you have joystick support in your kernal?
[04:08] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, lsusb
[04:09] <cheapie> kjxl9: Yeah...I don't think it'll work.
[04:09] <cheapie> ngc604: I haven't, but it should be the same as a regular desktop.
[04:09] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 050d:945a Belkin Components
[04:09] <kjxl9> how do i enable my wireless network?
[04:09] <cheapie> kjxl9: Have you tried the network manager yet?
[04:09] <kjxl9> nope
[04:09] <kjxl9> i should do that now
[04:10] <chaospsyche> kjxl9: your wi-fi card probably isn't support
[04:10] <cheapie> kjxl9: Good point...
[04:10] <chaospsyche> *supported
[04:10] <ngc604> cheapie, would you think there would be any issues?  i would assume it would be straight foward.  just not sure
[04:10] <kjxl9> ya my laptop IS pretty dam old
[04:10] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: will that work in 10.04
[04:10] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, open google and type your computer name   > model number and get it's info of what card it is
[04:11] <chaospsyche> it's more likely to work the older it is versus if it was new
[04:11] <cheapie> ngc604: I don't think there would be any issues. In fact, ZaReason sells that configuration.
[04:11] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: i just bought this,my comp didn't have wi-fi out of the box
[04:11] <ngc604> ZaReason is a person on here?
[04:12] <cheapie> ngc604: It's a company. They sell computers with Ubuntu preinstalled.
[04:12] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, ok what model the wifi card and version in google and get chipset
[04:12] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: ok one sec
[04:13] <ngc604> cheapie, ok.  i will check them out.  i recently had my laptop stolen and i dont have the money to replace it.  but i have found some cheap 3ghz xeon servers that i think will work for me
[04:14] <ludican> It would be nice if the few companies that sold Ubuntu computers used AMD chips.
[04:14] <cheapie> ngc604: Well, ZaReason happens to sell 3 GHz Intel Xeon servers with Ubuntu Desktop Edition preinstalled, so you should be fine with yours.
[04:15] <smrz> how do i install nvidia drivers for my system while using a live cd?
[04:15] <cheapie> ludican: ZaReason (zareason.com) sells computers with AMD CPUs and Ubuntu.
[04:15] <ngc604> cheapie, do you think a dual 3ghz xeon 4gb ram would be comparible to a core duo 2.5ghz 4gb ram?
[04:15] <hiexpo> smrz, you can't
[04:16] <cheapie> ngc604: It depends on the usage. How do you want to use them?
[04:16] <karan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1KvxI_7-oA&feature=channel_video_title
[04:16] <smrz> hiexpo there's absolutely no way? i uninstalled the nvidia drivers from my system, and on reboot now the screen is all garbeled
[04:16] <ngc604> basic everyday use.  and music recording
[04:16] <karan> please check that out
[04:16] <ianm_> is it still possible to get a synaptic touchpad's SHMConfig accessible to apps?
[04:16] <ngc604> music recording is done through a usb box not onboard sound
[04:16] <cheapie> ngc604: You shouldn't be able to notice a difference at all then.
[04:17] <karan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1KvxI_7-oA&feature=channel_video_title
[04:17] <ludican> Well, I wanted a laptop
[04:17] <cheapie> ludican: Well, you could buy one with Windows and then install Ubuntu on it.
[04:18] <Laggg> need help compiling a kernel
[04:18] <Laggg> http://pastebin.com/fWqNDXb0
[04:18] <cheapie> ludican: I have found the Compaq CQ61-411WM to work well with Ubuntu.
[04:19] <ngc604> ludican, amazon had a lenovo 15.6 core duo 2.2ghz 4gb ram 250gb hdd for $300 recert.  thats a pretty good deal imo
[04:20] <noobiest> cheapie:take a look debconf freeze again after partial upgrade http://postimage.org/image/175z2g810/
[04:20] <ngc604> pacificgeek.com also has a 12.1 core duo 1.86ghz 512k ram 80gb hd off lease for $170.  thought about getting that myself.
[04:21] <cheapie> noobiest: I don't know what to tell you then. Can you try running it in a terminal and see what happens?
[04:21] <cheapie> smrz: If you're still here, I just wanted to say that you might be able to chroot into your installation and install the driver that way.
[04:22] <soziety> Are we all subnormal or only the most of us?     http://aurl.es/b1x
[04:23] <hcook> weird
[04:23] <noobiest> cheapie:what shall i run in terminal?or this bug bcoz i install ubuntu with ubiquity and gave me some error
[04:23] <cheapie> Laggg: Have you tried --initrd or just initrd instead of -initrd?
[04:23] <cheapie> noobiest: I'll go check. Please wait.
[04:23] <Laggg> cheapie: that was the prob
[04:23] <Laggg> fixed ;) thx! +rep
[04:24] <cheapie> noobiest: Try "sudo apt-get install pychess" (or just any other package that isn't installed)
[04:25] <parapara> I have an emacs question, and this is maybe not the right place for it, so let me know: when I try to start gnus with M-x gnus, emacs hangs with no error messages
[04:25] <jismlicious> Hello.  I just upgraded to Natty, and I'm still having the sound issue with pulseaudio and sound from my Hauppauge WinTV PCI card.  Where's the best place to ask for help with that?
[04:25] <cheapie> parapara: I think the emacs community might be a better place to ask.
[04:25] <TrentonAdams> any chance ubuntu will ditch unity?
[04:26] <cheapie> jismlicious: What's the problem?
[04:26] <jismlicious> No sound when I'm watching tv
[04:26] <cheapie> TrentonAdams: Low. Very low.
[04:26] <taglass> TrentonAdams: There's always a chance, but I wouldn't hold my breath
[04:26] <TrentonAdams> taglass: yeah, too bad, cause that likely means gnome won't be supported anymore.  And, hence a need to switch distros.  I'm betting ubuntu will lose a LOT of users now.
[04:26] <jismlicious> Currently unity is working flawlessly for me, though it's definitely a bit of a change
[04:27] <cheapie> jismlicious: Hmm... try running the app with padsp.
[04:27] <taglass> TrentonAdams: GnomeShell will be an option in 11.10
[04:27] <perlsyntax> How do i install the broandcom driver on ubuntu
[04:27] <cheapie> perlsyntax: What model card/chipset are you trying to install?
[04:27] <TrentonAdams> jismlicious: Yeah, it "works", but it's not a "bit" of a change, it's mental.  Ubuntu has managed to show apple how dumb-down they can have an interface.  That's just an amzing feat. :P
[04:28] <parapara> I actually really like unityu
[04:28] <TrentonAdams> parapara: Can you describe why?  Kinda curious, I just couldn't see anything good in it.
[04:28] <perlsyntax> i not sure i don't have linux install on it yet.
[04:28] <TrentonAdams> parapara: except the searching of course.
[04:28] <smrz> anyone else getting on natty install no panels?
[04:28] <cheapie> perlsyntax: Try installing then, it might just work right away.
[04:28] <smrz> i'm just getting my desktop, nothing else, and i can't bring up the dash or anything
[04:28] <perlsyntax> would ubuntu pick them up with hardware driver?
[04:29] <parapara> TrentonAdams: just because I was curious and have never seen it before
[04:29] <TrentonAdams> Anyhow, on a side topic.  I'm sure I used to be able to paste a path into nautilus, when using ubuntu 10, but I can't figure out how to enable that option now.
[04:29] <perlsyntax> ok i try that on tuesday.
[04:29] <cheapie> smrz: Have you tried the Ubuntu Classic option?
[04:29] <smrz> cheapie: no, how do I do that?
[04:29] <cheapie> perlsyntax: It should. No guarantees though.
[04:29] <taglass> TrentonAdams: CTRL-L
[04:29] <perlsyntax> brondcom drivers on windows sucks
[04:29] <cheapie> smrz: Select it in the drop-down box when logging in.
[04:30] <smrz> cheapie: trying it now
[04:30] <TrentonAdams> taglass: thanks, did that change?
[04:31] <taglass> TrentonAdams: No.  Was the same in 10.10
[04:31] <TrentonAdams> taglass: Also, is there a way of having it work by double clicking the location bar, like it used to work?
[04:31] <taglass> TrentonAdams: That I do not know.
[04:32] <TheYellowGTO> How do you run a program from terminal without it being locked to that terminal
[04:32] <cheapie> Wow. This is like regular tech support, but with me juggling 5 phones instead of one...It's fun though.
[04:32] <TrentonAdams> taglass: I think it was a habit that I developed, so I do think that used to be a feature, hmmm.
[04:32] <cheapie> TheYellowGTO: I don't think that's possible.
[04:32] <TrentonAdams> taglass: thanks for the ctrl-l thing though.
[04:33] <taglass> TheYellowGTO: screen
[04:33] <slyrus> how can I make my upstart script wait for my nfs volumes to get mounted?
[04:33] <TheYellowGTO> Yes it is
[04:33] <TheYellowGTO> I've done it but I forget
[04:33] <taglass> TheYellowGTO: run the program under gnu screen
[04:34] <cheapie> slyrus: You can put in "sleep" followed by a number of seconds.
[04:34] <slyrus> cheapie: hmm... sounds like a hack, but OK.
[04:35] <TheYellowGTO> There is something with an & after it
[04:35] <TheYellowGTO> Someone in here told me, but now i'm on mylaptop
[04:35] <TheYellowGTO> And its at home in a text file
[04:35] <cheapie> slyrus: Yeah, it's sort of like "Hey, this thing broke" "Well, why fix it when we can tape it back together?"
[04:36] <taglass> slyrus: Have you looked through http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ ?
[04:36] <slyrus> yeah, that seems to be the only decent documentation on this thing I can find
[04:36] <Zolty1> Hello #ubuntu, wondering where a good place to go for support on the bundled remote desktop application in 10.10
[04:37] <cheapie> I had better leave now. I have a life too, you know...
[04:37] <slyrus> I'm troubled that 1) my script is firing when I have a start on (filesystem and started avahi) line and 2) it doesn't respawn until the nfs mounts succeed
[04:37] <slyrus> ok, thanks Cheapie
[04:40] <CreativeReach> Hi
[04:40] <CreativeReach> hi
[04:40] <Zolty1> Hi
[04:40] <CreativeReach> so whats up
[04:41] <geekorama> anyone using ubuntu one here?
[04:41] <esx> jebus wept
[04:41] <CreativeReach> Yes 11.4
[04:41] <Loshki> slyrus: or move the logic into a script which you run in the background started from /etc/rc.local. There's no guarantee that an nfs mount will work. What if the nfs server's down?
[04:42] <cfedde> qwpoaslk
[04:42] <canthus13> bah. what's teh command to return a terminal to a usable state when you screw up and cat a binary file?
[04:42] <Loshki> canthus13: try 'reset'
[04:42] <canthus13> Loshki: thanks. :)
[04:43] <glacia> hello
[04:43] <glacia> can someone assist me in running an exe gba emulator
[04:44] <html_inprogress> yes?
[04:44] <conner_> I need help changing the resolution of my tty console.
[04:45] <conner> Does anyone know how to change the resolution of the console to fit a 1920x1080 screen?
[04:45] <html_inprogress> tty means what?  conner,
[04:46] <conner_> teletypetypewriter
[04:46] <conner_> what is this an iq test
[04:47] <madsailor> galacia, for running exe's on linux you'll need wine, and their support channel is #winehq
[04:47] <glacia> thank you
[04:47] <conner_> All i know is my console does not produce a desireable resolution and owuld like to fix it
[04:48] <conner_> Before nvidia drivers it would boot with nice crisp font and the tty's would be in the correct resolution
[04:48] <conner_> but after the nvidia drivers the tty consoles and boot is not in a proper resolution
[04:48] <noobiest> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:48] <nit-wit> conner, have you tried xrandr to see if you can get what you want and then edit the file
[04:48] <conner_> all im asking is if anyone knows how to fix it as I have been around my ass a billion times googling it
[04:49] <nit-wit> conner, are you chaffed
[04:49] <noobiest> after i run,its lokk like partial upgrade same thing diff way
[04:49] <nit-wit> ;)
[04:49] <slyrus> Loshki: fair enough... but why use rc.local instead of upstart?
[04:49] <conner_> im going to give xrandr a try
[04:49] <ayecee> hyperbole is endearing
[04:50] <slyrus> Loshki: don't the same problems exist there?
[04:50] <noobiest> my debconf still in trouble
[04:50] <html_inprogress> conner_, well i was going to help you ,untill you instulted me.. and i know whatt a tty is my my works with the deaf/ and sometimes i help her
[04:51] <Jordan_U> conner_: xrandr won't help, this isn't X.
[04:51] <Jordan_U> conner_: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:51] <slyrus> in any event, I think I've fixed that problem and am on to forked-daapd quitting for some other reason :(
[04:51] <conner_> 11.04
[04:51] <Jordan_U> conner_: Then that's probably the highest resolution possible for the ttys while using the proprietary drivers.
[04:51] <noobiest> after installing new package i must run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' or partial upgrade awfull bcoz debconf freeze
[04:52] <ifqi> how do we can install driver wireless
[04:52] <conner_> so it is unchangeable thats not right
[04:52] <jismlicious> Connor:  I missed it, is the size of text too small, too big, too ..?
[04:52] <ifqi> hello franklv
[04:52] <html_inprogress> connner_,  i was just checking to see if you meant something else,,,,
[04:52] <conner_> too big, as in the dpi is off. This would be because of resolution
[04:53] <ifqi> hello Azelphur
[04:53] <Jordan_U> conner_: When using proprietary drivers there is no kernel mode setting support which means among other things that native drivers can't be used for console ttys. VESA instead must be used and since 11.04 tries to use the highest VESA resultion possible by default what you have is probably the best you can get.
[04:53] <ifqi> hello jordan_U
[04:53] <judgex_> hi, i used parted magic live cd (pmagic-6.0.iso) and tried to grow my ext4 home partition, getting this error "Resize2fs doesn't currently support the combination of flex_bg and !resize_inode." what can i do to resize my ext4?
[04:53] <conner_> your right im rockin the 795 vesa. thanks jordan_U I hate propriatary drivers....
[04:53] <html_inprogress> hi
[04:53] <Jordan_U> ifqi: Hi.
[04:53] <hesterprynne> can someone tell my why my computer freezes whenever i try to change themes? i can click "customise" and change it that way but i cannot change it by clicking on the theme in the main part
[04:53] <ifqi> nice to know you
[04:54] <conner_> does anyone know how to configure vsync on the open source drivers
[04:54] <ifqi> this the first time i joint this forum
[04:55] <Jordan_U> conner_: If you're passing 'vga=795' as a kernel parameter, 1: That has been depricated and 2: You might be making the situation worse as a higher resolution may be available but you are overriding it.
[04:55] <mneorr> hi all, i've just applyed the new ubuntu 11.04 updates, and lost 2 usb ports on sony vaio f series..anyone had the same problem/
[04:55] <html_inprogress> wait for dr_willis
[04:55] <mneorr> ?
[04:55] <c2tarun> I am facing a strange problem with ubuntu, whenever I am entering the password on the login screen its instead of logging in its comming back again and again on password screen. why so?
[04:55] <mneorr> the usb3 port works, but 2 usb 2.0 on the other side doesn't anymore
[04:56] <slinger2519> hey guys could i make an irc server? i have a computer that i have acting as a server right now running 10.04
[04:56] <conner_> nah jordan, highest possible for vesa is 795 and that is what ubuntu is running as max for the propriatary. this is why everytime I try and change it it does not change because it is  already 795.
[04:56] <Toph> c2tarun,,, on 11.04?
[04:56] <c2tarun> Toph: nope on 10.04 lucid
[04:56] <Toph> c2tarun,,, ok
[04:57] <Jordan_U> conner_: OK. So to confirm, you are *not* passing any 'vga=' parameter to the kernel?
[04:57] <c2tarun> Toph: any solution?
[04:57] <html_inprogress> c2tarun,  that one again,huh... update, restart
[04:57] <ngc604> slinger2519, i believe you need the ircd package from synaptic package manager.  then there should be info online on how to set it up.  tho getting it on a major network takes some major internet speed
[04:57] <trinikrono> c2tarun: can you drop to terminal run startx
[04:58] <Toph> c2tarun,,, no,, i was having the same problem with 11.04, and still am, but I think it is Unity crashing
[04:58] <trinikrono> that should not use gdm
[04:59] <c2tarun> I just logged in :( but sometimes it never allows me to login. is there any permanent solution
[04:59] <mneorr> sorry for posting again... anyone lost usb 2.0 on laptop after newest update?
[04:59] <noobiest> debconf-communi what  procces?this process always freeze and make me doing  'sudo dpkg --configure -a' or partial upgrade many time can i remove it?
[04:59] <html_inprogress> im gald i didnt upgade to a "unity[ed ] mess lol
[05:00] <mneorr> unity is very good
[05:00] <ifqi> i'm using ubuntu maverick
[05:00] <KM0201> html_inprogress: definitely some growing pains
[05:00] <mneorr> but this was a kernel update
[05:00] <hesterprynne> can someone tell my why my computer freezes whenever i try to change themes? i can click "customise" and change it that way but i cannot change it by clicking on the theme in the main part. also the color of  the text in the top bar will not change from black, how do i change it?
[05:00] <noobiest> any idea/
[05:00] <mneorr> try logout/login
[05:01] <luite> I've added my user to a group, but my shell doesn't know about it for some reason. is it possible to get a shell with the correct permissions without completely logging out of gnome first?
[05:01] <ifqi> how do we know version
[05:02] <desg_xd> night everyone
[05:02] <html_inprogress> lol,,,  sometime i come for help, but i figure i help out,,, there was like 60 ppl asking about "unity" problems or related
[05:02] <Toph> !version | ifqi
[05:02] <html_inprogress> night
[05:03] <html_inprogress> desg_xd,  night :) see you agian
[05:03] <Toph> html_inprogress,,, are you up on Unity?
[05:04] <html_inprogress> Toph,  huh read up or have it or both or other?
[05:04] <noobiest> anybody can tell me what kind debconf-communi  procces?this process always freeze/sleep but the  window appear after install new package both with ubuntu softwarecenter or apt-get  and make me doing  'sudo dpkg --configure -a' or partial upgrade many time can i remove it?
[05:04] <html_inprogress> i think so, t
[05:04] <Toph> html_inprogress,,, i can't log into the desktop that includes Unity, but I can into the Classic and then load Unity from Compiz,, what gives?
[05:05] <ifqi> thanks mr. ubottu
[05:05] <ifqi> nice to know you
[05:05] <cheapie> ifqi: Ubottu is a bot...
[05:06] <Souperman> !talk to me
[05:06] <ifqi> my version linux ubuntu 10.10 maverick
[05:07] <cheapie> Is there anybody here waiting for help?
[05:07] <ifqi> my linux not detect wireless
[05:07] <cheapie> ifqi: Have you checked network manager?
[05:07] <noobiest> cheapie:problem solved but i must run dpkg-configure --a after install new package and kill that proccess this awfull but Many thanks to your help
[05:07] <Toph> cheapie,,, i am
[05:08] <cheapie> toph: ...what?
[05:08] <ifqi> yes, but not identification wireless
[05:08] <Toph> cheapie,,,  i can't log into the desktop that includes Unity, but I can into the Classic and then load Unity from Compiz,, what gives?
[05:08] <MK``> Is it possible for me to have 2 separate installations of Ubuntu (eg. a 32-bit and a 64-bit) installed but share a list of users and use the same /home partition?
[05:09] <cheapie> ifqi: Try running "lspci | grep wireless"
[05:09] <cheapie> Toph: What happens when you try to log into the Unity desktop?
[05:09] <html_inprogress> compiz , im dont know about unity but i know compiz "gives you hell" lol  just cuz  and some times its random, so try to take in off , update  , restart, , log back in to unity and try in out
[05:09] <cheapie> MK``: Same /home: yes. Same users list: I don't think so.
[05:09] <Toph> cheapie,,, the screen blacks out for 5 seconds and returns to the login screen
[05:10] <Bonkers> maybe I'm missing something, but how do I reboot/logout with this new unity interface? and is there an easy way to disable unity?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> MK``: I'm not sure how manageable that would be but are you aware that you can run 32 bit applications, and a full 32 bit chroot if needed, on 64 bit Ubuntu?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Bonkers: Click on the power icon at the top right.
[05:10] <cheapie> Toph: check jockey and see if there are any drivers available.
[05:10] <MK``> Yes Jordan_U. I was curious about the process. If I wanted to access the files of a different user in /home on the other installation, I'd have to manually provide the encryption key?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Bonkers: That hasn't changed recently.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> !classic | Bonkers
[05:11] <Toph> cheapie,,, could you please explain what 'jockey' is
[05:11] <cheapie> Toph: It's the "Additional Drivers" thing.
[05:11] <Bonkers> Jordan_U, thanks, but I think something is broken here, that top right light switch icon doesn't do anything, double click, right click, left click, nothing, and before upgrading I had a system menu with all of this, which I suspect is classic
[05:11] <Souperman> >sudo jockey-gtk
[05:12] <cheapie> Toph: as Souperman said, "sudo jockey-gtk" will launch it.
[05:12] <glacia> #winehq is no help
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Bonkers: I'm pretty sure that logout hasn't been in the System menu since before Ubuntu 10.04.
[05:12] <cheapie> glacia: What is your problem?
[05:13] <Bonkers> kinda wishing I didn't upgrade, this thing is a huge mess, the new kernel doesn't work with my video card, and wireless doesn't seem to work on the old kernel now
[05:13] <glacia> trying to install and run a virtual gba emulator
[05:13] <Souperman> glacia, there are vga emulators native
[05:13] <Toph> cheapie,,, ok,, i'm been there,, the video driver ischeok, let me try
[05:13] <cheapie> glacia: Try this one: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Emulators/Visualboy-Advance-3469.shtml
[05:13] <glacia> souperman, where?
[05:14] <nsur> hi all. i installed 10.10 and it took 10s from BIOS to login page, then i upgrade to 11.04 yesterday. now it takes 110s to get login screen. is 11.04 natty slower??
[05:14] <MK``> Jordan_U / cheapie please check my line :)
[05:14] <html_inprogress> Bonkers,  ? ctrl+alt delete?
[05:15] <glacia> cheapie, i downloaded that im still learning on how to install stuff on ubuntu.... what do i do next
[05:15] <nabi> how can I use smb:// in dest. for rsync command ?
[05:15] <Herbs> nabi mount it first
[05:15] <Jordan_U> MK``: I don't know how encrypted home directories would work with such a setup. What is your end goal?
[05:15] <Souperman> glacia, try gnuboy
[05:15] <nabi> Herbs: ok thanks :X
[05:15] <Herbs> then it will be rsync -switches /mounted/dir/
[05:16] <cheapie> glacia: You should just be able to go into Synaptic and install visualboyadvance-gtk
[05:16] <Souperman> that too
[05:16] <Toph> cheapie,,, it gives me..ATI/AMD propriator FGLRX video driver is already in use
[05:16] <Jordan_U> glacia: Forget what you have downloaded, open Ubuntu Software Center, and search for "game boy"
[05:17] <MK``> Jordan_U: essentially if it is possible to share a user list
[05:17] <Jordan_U> MK``: Sharing a user list is not an end goal :)
[05:17] <cheapie> Toph: Good. However, you can try disabling that, rebooting, and trying again.
[05:17] <Toph> cheapie,,, ok
[05:17] <nabi> Herbs: how can I find device name of smb://.... ?
[05:18] <cheapie> Toph: You could also try "Unity 2D" and see if that works.
[05:18] <Herbs> nabi it wont have a device name
[05:18] <MK``> Jordan_U: I know... just forget it :/
[05:18] <nabi> Herbs: so, how can I mount it?
[05:18] <Herbs> its iirc usually work with nfs not samba host:/share
[05:18] <nabi> mount /media/win/ smb://.... ?
[05:19] <nabi> mount smb://.... /media/win/ ?
[05:19] <Herbs> nabi source always comers before mount point
[05:20] <cheapie> nabi: It seems that the smb stuff is done by nautilus, so mount might not work. If it did, you would probably also need the 'bind' option.
[05:20] <Herbs> nabi easiest way to mount samba shares is using autofs then you can mount them by cd to the dir
[05:21] <Cporter> I installed Ubuntu 11.4 using Wubi and when I booted into it, it says there is no boot partion. I uninstalled and it happened again. Any idea what could causing it
[05:22] <Herbs> cporter not seeting a mount point maybe
[05:22] <Herbs> setting*
[05:22] <hiexpo> wubi is all bad
[05:23] <Cporter> it worke for my laptop but not my desktop
[05:23] <ChronicSyncope> Cporter, try installing 10.10 and then upgrading from within the OS?
[05:24] <Cporter> ok
[05:24] <nabi> Herbs: when I try mount .. get me, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on sbm:.......
[05:24] <vexati0n> so... i like Natty more than I thought, but there's one thing that's driving me nuts: I have dual monitors, and on the second monitor the menu bar at the top runs off the edge of the screen.
[05:24] <vexati0n> any way to fix that?
[05:24] <renegaid> ubuntu seems to be getting slower and slower with every release
[05:24] <amskinner> ^
[05:24] <vexati0n> natty works better on my machine than maverick did
[05:24] <Souperman> welcome to bloat
[05:25] <Herbs> nabi I usually get around that by using autofs for samba
[05:25] <Herbs> nabi but make sure you have smbfs installed try dpkg -l | grep smbfs
[05:26] <crohakon> I need to create a bootable CD from a windows XP sp3 ISO in order to reinstall XP on a netbook. I can't seem to burn a bootable copy of the CD using the ISO from MSDN. I am trying to burn the CD via Ubuntu using the built in cd burning software. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?
[05:26] <Ruge> Anyone have a recommendation for a desktop widget to monitor internet use?
[05:26] <nabi> Herbs: yes, here in output
[05:27] <dragon_slayer> cheese
[05:27] <Cporter> did any one here go to LinuxFest Northwest over the weekend?
[05:28] <twinkie-murderer> not that i know of
[05:28] <Herbs> nabi ok install automount apt-get install automount
[05:28] <glacia> Jordan_U you still there
[05:28] <Souperman> ruge gdesklets
[05:28] <byerley> hi can someone tell me if /dev/shm is concurrent read/write safe or where to look that up?
[05:28] <crohakon> I need to create a bootable CD from a windows XP sp3 ISO in order to reinstall XP on a netbook. I can't seem to burn a bootable copy of the CD using the ISO from MSDN. I am trying to burn the CD via Ubuntu using the built in cd burning software. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? Please note that this is a legal copy as the owner of the netbook has a valid key. The owner is blind, and I am trying to help her out. Anyone?
[05:28] <Herbs> byerley /dev/shm is rw by default
[05:28] <Ruge> thanks Souperman, just installed ubuntu so giving it all a go :)
[05:29] <glacia> nvm
[05:29] <Cporter> get the owner a program called jaws for the netbook
[05:29] <Cporter> brb
[05:29] <killer_> what is the default instant messaging program in ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[05:29] <sugenge> hi
[05:29] <sugenge> good morning
[05:30] <byerley> Herbs: but can I write to it from different processes without the memory being corrupted?
[05:30] <sugenge> disini
[05:30] <sugenge> aku disini
[05:30] <Herbs> byerley I dont see why not
[05:30] <histo> killer_: pidgin I believe if not it's empathy
[05:30] <orbiting> it's empathy
[05:30] <orbiting> since 9.10
[05:30] <nabi> Herbs: unable to locate package automount
[05:31] <killer_> histo/orbiting: roger. I'll look into that.
[05:31] <Herbs> nabi sorry autofs :)
[05:32] <Souperman> crohakon, how are you reading the cd on the netbook?
[05:32] <nabi> Herbs: I thinks problem in dep... ,get me failed to fetch http://archive...
[05:32] <crohakon> Souperman, a portable external cd drive
[05:32] <nabi> *dep = repo...
[05:32] <Snakkah> I decided to switch back to 10.04 as I'm not too pleased with the new Unity interface and for stability reasons, but I was wondering if there would be any harm in upgrading to the latest 2.6.38 kernel on my 10.04 install. What do you all think?
[05:33] <Souperman> there might be your problem, try to make a booteable pendrive
[05:33] <Herbs> nabi what repos you have enabled?
[05:34] <nsur> disini
[05:34] <crohakon> Souperman, I tried that as well. The portable CD drive is not the issue. I was able to use other versions (newer) just fine, but the netbook has only 1 gb and the software she uses is for XP (though, sure it would work in newer versions)
[05:34] <marenostrum> Snakkah, Why don't you plainly use "Ubuntu Classic" interface instead of downgrading?
[05:34] <killer_> how do i view the equivalent of Windows 'Task Manager'?
[05:34] <Herbs> killer top
[05:35] <killer_> herbs: i thought top was only the top 10 processes
[05:35] <Souperman> crohakon, then i guess you already knew this http://wintoflash.com/home/en/
[05:35] <Herbs> killer nvm if you want like task manger system > resource monitor
[05:35] <Herbs> killer no way more powerfull than that
[05:35] <nabi> Herbs: I don't know :D
[05:36] <taglass> killer_:  gnome-system-monitor
[05:36] <Souperman> then i recomend you download some other torrent on the internets and try burning it, remember not  to burn the iso into the cd but to burn the image itself
[05:37] <crohakon> Souperman, no, I did not. It is a zip file, is this a windows program?
[05:37] <Herbs> nabi check in /etc/apt/sources.list or go to system > software sources
[05:37] <inimeg> hi im drunk
[05:37] <Herbs> me too
[05:37] <inimeg> i love my ubuntu though
[05:37] <Snakkah> marenostrum, I did that at first, but even there I noticed some annoying Compiz bugs even in the "Classic" interface in the new release. Along with that, multiple burns of the Live CD would not boot into the live environment at all. As far as I'm concerned, Canonical still needs to work out some bugs before I consider 11.04 again.
[05:38] <inimeg> its not cool with me what they did removing gnome
[05:38] <inimeg> ill survive
[05:38] <inimeg> but its not cool
[05:38] <Souperman> im pretty sure it is crohakon
[05:38] <nabi> Herbs: oh I find it:  mount -t smbfs -o username=<name>,password=<passwd> //sambashare /mountpoint
[05:38] <Axlin> gnome's still there. it's in the sessions list in the login screen inimeg
[05:38] <Herbs> inimeg gnome has not been removed
[05:38] <taglass> inimeg: They didn't have much of a choice.  Gnome2 is dead.
[05:38] <nabi> Herbs: it's works fine :D
[05:38] <marenostrum> Snakkah, I see; I don't know the answer of your original question.
[05:38] <Herbs> nabi cool
[05:39] <inimeg> i havent upgraded yet
[05:39] <jack123> hello all
[05:39] <inimeg> cause of slow internets
[05:39] <jack123> my internet is not working with latest ubuntu
[05:39] <jack123> nforce 630 a
[05:39] <jack123> please help
[05:39] <inimeg> i know its cause xp is dieing
[05:40] <Snakkah> inimeg, like I just said, I wasn't too pleased with Natty. I actually downgraded to 10.04 since it's supported until 2013. Hopefully Unity will mature by then. :D
[05:41] <jack123> any 1 there.?
[05:41] <marenostrum> jack123, I had a problem with internet connection at the beginning as well. I deactivate the connection and activated it again. It connected. Then after, everything is normal. I didn't have to do that all the time I boot. maybe this helps.
[05:41] <inimeg> i agree unity is not high on my list of W.M.
[05:42] <jack123> i have done it many times but its not working
[05:42] <jack123> may be i need drivers.. my connection is working fine in mandriva
[05:42] <Herbs> time for xfce with these new flashy desktops
[05:42] <Snakkah> inimeg, they do allow you to have the old interface though.
[05:42] <SirFunk_> hey, so i just snagged this fancy Acer laptop (Dual core intel) from work... trying the ubuntu boot cd on it.. it doesn't recognize the HDD though :( how can i install?
[05:42] <Snakkah> You might consider that. I did and it didn't work for me but oh well lol
[05:43] <Herbs> sirfunk is the hdd encypted?
[05:43] <jack123> sirfunk there is a acer protection for hdd in bios disable that
[05:43] <marenostrum> jack123, Didyou have any connection problem with the previous release if you were using it? Maverick, I mean.
[05:43] <inimeg> snakkah im a x chat noob how do you get that cool lil ping in my box?
[05:43] <SirFunk_> herbs: don't think so, had windows 7 on it before
[05:44] <Nameless> hi there
[05:44] <SirFunk_> jack123: i don't seen an option for that
[05:44] <jack123> previously i used mandrivaa.. i have switched to ubuntu
[05:44] <Souperman> crohakon, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html
[05:44] <Snakkah> inimeg, I just do that by typing your name.
[05:44] <Nameless> How can i set up a booting system on EFI machines?
[05:44] <nabi> How can I use rsync, wirh keep creation date of directory when I moved ?
[05:44] <Snakkah> lol
[05:44] <inimeg> ty ty
[05:44] <Snakkah> The same thing happened when you typed mine.
[05:44] <jack123> sirfunk there is a option for it i dont actually remember the exact name
[05:44] <Herbs> nabi man rsync :)
[05:44] <inimeg> Snakkah just like this?
[05:44] <Snakkah> inimeg, yes.
[05:45] <chaospsyX> finally I got my wireless usb adapter working in 10.10!
[05:45] <inimeg>  Snakkah ty
[05:45] <Snakkah> Mmhmm.
[05:45] <Snakkah> inimeg, I sent you a message.
[05:46] <jack123> marenostrum are you there.?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Do you have hardware that only supports EFI?
[05:46] <Nameless> MacBook pro
[05:46] <Zeeofu> does anyone know how to boot aternate ubuntu install from usb
[05:46] <Strav> He. I just assembled a small htpc using an asus e35 pro mother board, one with those new amd apu. Now I'm trying to get it to decently play an mp4 video at 1080p and it just choke on it. Now I tried different players (vlc, smplayer), tried different video outputs, tried adjusting my video shared memory, no success... any suggestion on that matter?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> Nameless: That has a BIOS implementation and you'll save yourself headache by using it.
[05:46] <marenostrum> jack123, I'm almost sure that its something related with some settings (or a need of installing a driver, at worst) but I can not say anything in concrete. Lets Google ubuntu+<your network card>
[05:47] <marenostrum> jack123, Yes, I'm here.
[05:47] <Strav> (btw, the system has 2gb of ram)
[05:47] <Zeeofu> does anyone know how to boot aternate ubuntu install from usb
[05:47] <Nameless> i have a MacBook Pro 3.1 (late 2007)
[05:47] <Nameless> same thing?
[05:47] <Herbs> strav your gfx?
[05:47] <jack123> zeeeofu  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[05:48] <Strav> Herbs: you mean what is my video card?
[05:48] <Zeeofu> jack123: Thanks
[05:48] <Herbs> yes
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Yes.
[05:48] <Nameless> Jordan_U: at the moment i'm installing the system by saving a 200mb FAT partition as /dev/sda1
[05:49] <Nameless> what do you suggest to do?
[05:49] <komatose> 11.04, my clock has disappeared, and System Settings won't open. Any ideas?
[05:49] <jack123> please some 1 help me my interenet is really not working in ubuntu
[05:49] <ae0000> there used to be a way of using a operating system installed on your machine (windows) as a virtual machine inside of ubuntu... can anyone point me to how or what tech is used to do this?
[05:50] <Strav> Herbs: those amd apu are an integrated solution between gpu and cpu, it's an AMD E-350 APU code name zacate.
[05:50] <ae0000> i remember doing it years ago... just cant remember how
[05:50] <jack123> ae0000 is it vmware.?
[05:50] <marenostrum> jack123, nforce 630 a seems to be your motherboard. What is your network card?
[05:50] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Use this iso: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso burn it to a CD, boot from the CD, use automatic partitioning in the installer.
[05:50] <Herbs> starv hmm dont really have any experience other than nvidia
[05:50] <Strav> Herbs: and btw, I'm using the proprietary amd drivers for this.
[05:50] <Dark_Link> do the intell legacy work with 11.0.4?
[05:50] <atlef> ae0000, virtualbox?
[05:50] <jack123> network card is onboard  nforce networking controller
[05:51] <ae0000> jack123, not sure will take a look... i really cat remember :)
[05:51] <ae0000> atlef, maybe.. i'll have a look
[05:51] <ae0000> found it .. .vmware converter :)
[05:52] <jack123> so i was right :)
[05:52] <Dark_Link> and how would i enable them as i cant stand not being able to play a youtube video without super choppy playback
[05:52] <Herbs> ae0000 virtualbox-ose
[05:52] <Nameless> Jordan_U: to be honest with you i'm installing debian, but i thoight the way for get the system booting is the same as ubuntu
[05:52] <Jordan_U> Nameless: And please do just use automatic partitioning rather than trying to setup partitions manually. It will set up everything correctly.
[05:52] <Nameless> :\
[05:52] <Nameless> *tought
[05:52] <Herbs> nameless ubuntu is based on debian but debian is debian
[05:53] <Nameless> Herbs: i know
[05:53] <wjlafrance> Is there a way to install Ubuntu Server on a headless box?
[05:53] <inimeg> love me some .deb
[05:53] <jack123> i am new to linux which distro will you guys recommend me.?
[05:53] <inimeg> srry ive been drinking
[05:53] <inimeg> ubuntu jackl123
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Debian has an IRC channel, #debian, and I answered you in #grub when you asked. Please don't try to get Debian support in #ubuntu.
[05:53] <chaospsyX> jack123: Ubuntu
[05:54] <jack123> ubuntu is creating problems blah
[05:54] <ae0000> Herbs, hmmm have you done it before with virtualbox? cant find any docs for it
[05:54] <chaospsyX> jack123: try fedora
[05:54] <ae0000> Herbs, i take that back :)
[05:54] <jack123> whats the difference between fedora n ubuntu
[05:54] <wjlafrance> jack123: if you can't get ubuntu to work, try gentoo
[05:54] <Dark_Link> i love how i had to use ubuntu 10.10 just to partition my nfs hardrive to make space for 11.0.4
[05:54] <Nameless> you answered me in #grub? sorry, maybe i didn't read
[05:54] <Herbs> jack123 the majority are easy to install these days and easy to use so it doesent really matter check distro watch have a read see which one you fancy really, the only ones not for noobs is slackware and maybe arch
[05:54] <Jordan_U> !ot | inimeg
[05:54] <taglass> jack123: Well If Mandriva was working w/ your hardware, that's a pretty good choice.  openSUSE is also a good choice if you don't wanna use Ubuntu
[05:54] <marenostrum> jack123, Was your internet connection active during installation? Does ubuntu Natty make connection while using the live CD? ıf answers are no and yes; maybe its best to reinstall with a working internet connection.
[05:55] <chaospsyX> jack123: mandriva,debian,fedora all are decent
[05:55] <chronicle_> Hey quick question anyone know any free server blacklists for like porn sites?
[05:55] <babbio> Hi guys I've a problem connecting with svn+ssh, I can connect with ssh to my server but when I use svn+ssh I get the error message "ssh could not resolve hostname name or service not known" what can I do? thank you
[05:55] <Strav> Herbs: just found some specs saying that the graphics controller is AMD Radeon HD 6310... if that's of any matter.
[05:55] <chaospsyX> jack123: mandriva is probably the most noob friendly other than ubuntu
[05:55] <Herbs> jack123 the main diffs fedora is blleding edge they update packages without considering stability (as its red hats test platform) they use rpm instead of deb
[05:55] <hateball> !ot
[05:56] <YellowGTO> Anyone know of Software noise cancellation for linux?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> YellowGTO: Real time?
[05:56] <jack123> marenostrum i read that it has to do with kernel thing .. there were 4 kernel version displayed to me at the time of install and i had to choose one
[05:56] <YellowGTO> Yeah Jordan_U
[05:56] <chaospsyX> Jack123: download 'virtual box' and check them all out
[05:56] <YellowGTO> I have it for windows works well
[05:56] <Jordan_U> YellowGTO: Then no I don't personally, but it probably exists.
[05:56] <YellowGTO> I've been searching google
[05:57] <YellowGTO> Can't seem to find it
[05:57] <Jordan_U> YellowGTO: If you don't get an answer here try in #ubuntustudio.
[05:57] <chaospsyX> Jack123: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[05:57] <marenostrum> jack123, Was it an alternate ISO?
[05:57] <Herbs> strav its an ati card then
[05:57] <chaospsyX> can't believe that program is free
[05:58] <geekorama> hi guys
[05:58] <chaospsyX> hi geekorama
[05:58] <geekorama> how do i manage my bookmarks on ubuntu one account please?
[05:58] <RavenhursT> Alright.. trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 from USB...  I get past my system BIOS and them I stuck w/ "SYSLINUX 3.82 2009-06-09 EBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2009 H. Peter Anvin et al"
[05:59] <geekorama> i enabled sharing bookmarks, but i dont see them on server, just see files/notes/Contacts
[05:59] <jack123> i have mandriva  and ubuntu as alternate iso
[05:59] <taglass> RavenhursT: How did you create the USB?
[05:59] <chaospsyX> Ravenhurst: what program did you use to make the USB?
[05:59] <RavenhursT> Then I tried removing "ui" from the /syslinux/syslinux.cfg file.. and now I get that same result + "Unkown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot"
[05:59] <chaospsyX> jack123: you can check both of them out in VB
[05:59] <marenostrum> jack123, What happens if you tyr to start from a live CD (not alternate)? Isn't your machine capable of doing that?
[05:59] <RavenhursT> taglass: chaospsyX :  the usb creator tool that's on the UBuntu image..
[05:59] <jack123> ravenhurst  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[05:59] <Herbs> jack123 if you have got used to mandriva then fedora might be your best bet as like mandriva is based on red hat
[06:00] <marenostrum> jack123, Is there a RAM problem?
[06:00] <RavenhursT> jack123... thnx.. I'll giat
[06:00] <jack123> yeah my machince is capable of running live cd
[06:00] <jack123> no there is no ram problem
[06:00] <taglass> Herbs: That may have been true at one point, but that's like saying Suse is still based upon slackware.
[06:00] <Souperman> chronicle_, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html
[06:00] <chaospsyX> RavenhursT: watch for any errors when you pendrivelinux....might have a broken image,have to redownload it
[06:00] <Souperman> wait no
[06:00] <marenostrum> jack123, So what happens when you run live CD? No internet connection?
[06:01] <Souperman> chronicle_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DansGuardian
[06:01] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: You used the USB creator that comes on the same image that you wrote to the USB drive?
[06:01] <Herbs> taglass I havent used or kept up eith mandriva since it was mandrake
[06:01] <Dark_Link> :/ i have a gma 945 and the performance is horrible how can i switch to the old drivers that run a bit better?
[06:01] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: yes
[06:01] <jack123> i havent run ubuntu as a live cd  yet
[06:01] <jack123> shall i try i t.?
[06:01] <chronicle_> Thats great thanks Souperman
[06:01] <chaospsyX> give a go
[06:02] <chaospsyX> which version of ubuntu jack123?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: That's really odd because that error is normally from an incompatibility between syslinux versions.
[06:02] <jack123> latest 11.04
[06:02] <jack123> downloaded yesterday
[06:02] <chaospsyX> cool
[06:02] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: yeah.. I dunno... just wanna get it installed..
[06:02] <RavenhursT> lol
[06:02] <Herbs> jack123 if you want to try ubuntu I suggest 10.04
[06:02] <jack123> if i run live cd which things shall i note marenostrum
[06:02] <chaospsyX> jack123: you got a decent video card?
[06:02] <jack123> yes 8800gt
[06:03] <marenostrum> jack123, ıf you aask me, try. If you have a connection, install right then. By the way, I can not get why Ubuntu offers you 4 kernel at the installation. I have never experienced such a thing.
[06:03] <chaospsyX> me neither
[06:03] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: And 11.04 comes with syslinux 4.02, not 3.82 as in your error message?
[06:03] <Dark_Link> it shouldent
[06:03] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: That wasn't meant to have a question mark at the end :)
[06:03] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: That's the message I got...  it just hung there..
[06:03] <jack123> yeah it offered me 4 kernels to chooose from  both were different versions
[06:03] <jack123> all the 4 *
[06:04] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: I have no idea why it said that...
[06:04] <chaospsyX> jack123: the grub menu ?
[06:04] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: Did you make the USB from Windows or from within Ubuntu booted from a burned CD?
[06:04] <jack123> no the installiton menu
[06:04] <marenostrum> jack123, Note kernel. Note driver for the card(s) and try to note the settings for connection, if any.
[06:04] <chaospsyX> jack123: where did you download the ISO and what distro?
[06:04] <jack123> download from ubuntu homepage
[06:04] <chaospsyX> jack123: alternate?
[06:04] <jack123> distro is ubuntu
[06:05] <marenostrum> jack123, I googled some and I'm almost sure that it should work.
[06:05] <jack123> what is altername.?
[06:05] <jack123> altetnate*
[06:05] <chaospsyX> whats the filename of your ISO image
[06:05] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: I dl'd the .iso from the ubuntu.com torrent link.. then I mounted the image using... uh.. clonedvd or something like that.. then I copied the usb creation tool to my HD.. ran it.. then I rebooted w/ the usb drive and that's what I got..
[06:05] <jack123> you mean it will work after reinstallation..?
[06:05] <jack123> ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[06:06] <amitush> hello
[06:06] <atlef> RavenhursT, get unetbootin and use that to make your usb http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[06:06] <jack123> raven hurst follow this link n download the software .. it will create a bootable usb ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[06:06] <taglass> amitush: Hello
[06:06] <amitush> need help with installing edimax wireless pci card
[06:06] <jack123> ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[06:06] <amitush> is it possible ?
[06:07] <amitush> through command?
[06:07] <chaospsyX> jack123: you got a 64-bit cpu ?
[06:07] <jack123> yes
[06:07] <jack123> amd x2 4400+
[06:07] <marenostrum> jack123, Alternate: There's an instalation image which is mainly for old machines with not sufficient RAM and you do some things manually with it. I don't advice it. If your machine is OK for a atandars ISO go with it. And try to let Ubuntu to recognize and do the standard installation.
[06:07] <RavenhursT> atlef:  ok...
[06:07] <jack123> ok
[06:07] <chaospsyX> jack123: remake the usb with pendrive linux
[06:08] <marenostrum> jack123, * atandars= standard
[06:08] <taglass> amitush: I've never tried it, but there are some results on google for that card and ubuntu
[06:08] <Dark_Link> chalcedony, do you know how to install the old intell drivers?
[06:08] <jack123> ok i will explain how my internet works
[06:08] <jack123> i have a wimax connection
[06:08] <chaospsyX> wimax?
[06:09] <jack123> yeah
[06:09] <komatose> inSSIDer doesn't seem to work in 11.04. I click it and nothing happens. Anyone have any ideas? Anything better to use?
[06:09] <Dark_Link> its like 4g internet
[06:09] <chaospsyX> what is that?
[06:09] <jack123> yeah its like 4g interent
[06:09] <genewitch> like the opposite of LTE 4g
[06:09] <genewitch> there's LTE and wimax
[06:09] <Herbs> jack123 can your network adapters handle 4 gig?
[06:09] <RavenhursT> arg... so many different ways to skin a freakin' Narwahl..
[06:09] <genewitch> clearwire uses wimax, etc
[06:10] <Dark_Link> 4g networks are like med dsl
[06:10] <Dark_Link> lol
[06:10] <jack123> when i open firefox  the default login page opens .. where is have to enter user name and password.. but the problem is its not opening
[06:10] <jack123> i guess its not automatically detecting ip
[06:10] <wjlafrance> I hate companies who brand their stuff 4G. I'm surprised the FCC lets them get away with it. It's all 3.8 or 3.9G.
[06:10] <Herbs> yeah nvm lo to much to drink before engaging brain
[06:10] <jack123> but i am not the same connection right now using in windows
[06:10] <blackshirt> how to check if  we have sucessfully upgraded ubuntu system ??
[06:10] <komatose> so-called 8ft and 9ft ceilings are like 7.91 ft and 8.91 ft high.
[06:11] <marenostrum> jack123, ıf connection works with live CD and you install but not have a connection after the initiall reboot, plainly deactivate and reactivate the connection from the GUI (from right top)
[06:11] <chaospsyX> jack123: are you using wimax right now in windows?
[06:11] <histo> blackshirt: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:11] <histo> blackshirt: add sudo in there ofcourse: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:11] <pie_> are there no tutorials for general unity usage?(ubuntu 11/04 gui)
[06:11] <jack123> i have done deactivating and activating it from top right but still not working
[06:11] <taglass> !msg | amitush
[06:11] <histo> pie_: on the homepage
[06:11] <jack123> yeah i am using it right now in windows
[06:12] <Cporter> Well that didnt work. I just won't install Ubuntu right now. I redid the install with wubi for 10.10 and had the same problem.
[06:12] <marenostrum> jack123, I understand it. I say for the next installation.
[06:12] <pie_> histo, unity homepage or ubuntu?
[06:12] <chaospsyX> jack123: do you know to log-into the wimax box ? access the shell ?
[06:12] <histo> pie_: ubuntu homepage
[06:12] <chaospsyX> *how to log-in
[06:12] <Dark_Link> ok so who can help me with installing older drivers?
[06:12] <jack123> yes i know
[06:12] <histo> pie_: they just added a new features thing or something
[06:12] <atlef> pie_, http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/
[06:12] <jack123> you mean the root page . 192.168.1.1
[06:12] <chaospsyX> in ubuntu does it connect to it?
[06:12] <chaospsyX> yeah
[06:13] <jack123> oh i havent checked it
[06:13] <jack123> in ubuntu
[06:13] <blackshirt> histo: i know, i mean how to see our new system version
[06:13] <jack123> shall i check it and be back.?
[06:13] <chaospsyX> you know on the panel on the top,can you connect to the wimax signal
[06:13] <chaospsyX> does it even show wireless connections?
[06:13] <histo> blackshirt: cat /etc/issue
[06:13] <chaospsyX> *wireless networks i mean
[06:14] <killer_> how do i find additional panel applets for 'The gnome panel 2.30.2'? i want a CPU tracking one where it shows the CPU usage graph.  I have it on Crunchbang with XFCE
[06:14] <jack123> no wireless networks for me
[06:14] <chaospsyX> the icon that looks like a signal
[06:14] <histo> Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l
[06:14] <histo> blackshirt: ^^^^
[06:14] <jack123> yeah it shows
[06:14] <pie_> thanky you!
[06:14] <jack123> thats icon
[06:14] <Cporter> how do you fix "No root file system defined" After a install using Wubi?
[06:14] <jack123> yeah it shows that icon
[06:14] <KM0201> jack123: whats your wireless device?
[06:14] <chaospsyX> does it list a wireless network when you click that icon?
[06:14] <blackshirt> histo: thanks
[06:14] <pie_> ok cmon innovative new concept? mac has been using dash forever :P
[06:14] <jack123> yeah it lists but its blank
[06:14] <jack123> because i dont have wireless
[06:15] <jack123> and on wired it list something e0401 or something like that
[06:15] <chaospsyX> you have a ethernet cable going to your comp?
[06:15] <histo> killer_: gnome has an applet called system monitor or something
[06:15] <jack123> yes
[06:15] <chaospsyX> oh
[06:15] <marenostrum> jack123, and other friends: Jack says that Ubuntu is offering him 4 kernels to choose one during installation. What kind of an installation is that?
[06:15] <histo> killer_: there are many others xfce has one as well
[06:15] <chaospsyX> you have DHCP turned on?
[06:15] <chaospsyX> on the wimax box ?
[06:15] <histo> killer_: right click in xfce and select add to panel then start typing in cpu
[06:15] <jack123> yeah
[06:15] <jack123> dhcp
[06:16] <KM0201> jack123: what is your wireless device.. thats the first step in figuring out why you're wireless doesn't work
[06:16] <chaospsyX> he doesnt have wireless
[06:16] <chaospsyX> he has a 4g wimax box
[06:16] <jack123> yyeah right
[06:16] <KM0201> ohhhhhh.. ok
[06:16] <KM0201> my bad
[06:16] <KM0201> i was confused
[06:16] <chaospsyX> but the box is receiving a wireless signal ?
[06:16] <chaospsyX> and sending that to your comp over ethernet?
[06:17] <jack123> yeah absolutely right
[06:17] <killer_> Hista: I'm in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS right now and it uses the Gnome Panel 2.30.  I have added to panel but the only CPU item I find is to change the CPU freqency.
[06:17] <chaospsyX> go into 192.168.1.1 and hit the print screen button
[06:17] <chaospsyX> and show me
[06:17] <chaospsyX> no wait
[06:17] <jack123> ok
[06:17] <chaospsyX> do this
[06:17] <killer_> hista: system monitor ended up being what i wanted.  TY
[06:18] <jack123> ok tell me
[06:18] <chaospsyX> boot into the live cd and 'try ubuntu'
[06:18] <jack123> ok then
[06:18] <chaospsyX> on the top panel click system > administration > network tools
[06:18] <jack123> ok then
[06:19] <chaospsyX> theres a pull-down menu on 'network devices '
[06:19] <jack123> ok then
[06:19] <marenostrum> jack123, from what media did you install? I'm still curious about that 4 kernel choice.
[06:19] <Dark_Link> hey can some one tell me how to go to xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4 o n 11.0.4?
[06:19] <jack123> from usb
[06:19] <Dark_Link> get
[06:19] <mkquist> anyone know how to reconfigure display resolution?  Just had to change to onboard nvidia card as old nvidia add on failed... ubuntu 10.04 at grub screen its fine, but once it loads it only goes to 800x600
[06:19] <chaospsyX> select (eth0) and see if it has been assigned an IP. It (eth0) should be on the list too.
[06:20] <jack123> shall i show you the screen shots ..?
[06:20] <chaospsyX> try this first
[06:20] <hateball> mkquist: use nvidia-settings
[06:20] <Herbs> jack123 try the kernel ending -29
[06:20] <jack123> ook
[06:20] <jack123> will be right back
[06:20] <chaospsyX> k
[06:20] <marenostrum> jack123, no need. try to let ubuntu decide almost all. Except your user name etc.
[06:20] <pie__> ok now i have render artifacts :/
[06:20] <jack123> taking screen shots on ubuntu n windows are smiliar.?
[06:20] <chaospsyX> yup
[06:20] <mkquist> hateball: kinda of obvious... should try that.. ty
[06:20] <jack123> cool
[06:21] <Herbs> jack123 use the one ending -29 theres been 2 relesed since
[06:21] <jack123> paint is similar to .?
[06:21] <MonkeyDust> guys, about ubuntu cloud, how can i delete files without deleting them from my hard disk?
[06:21] <hateball> mkquist: you need to "gksudo nvidia-settings" for some settings to stick tho... I cant recall exactly which
[06:21] <marenostrum> jack123, Don't try to choose kernel type or something. Let the live CD decide.
[06:21] <mkquist> hateball: k
[06:21] <jack123> ok
[06:22] <chaospsyX> jack123: the ip should not be 0.0.0.0 either
[06:22] <chaospsyX> it should be 192.168.1.xxx
[06:23] <Herbs> jack123 if you want to troubleshoot properly use the older kernel and work from there
[06:24] <chaospsyX> jack123: also do 'lspci' and see if your NIC is on there
[06:24] <chaospsyX> if its on there then it's loaded right? working properly? correct driver? Herbs?
[06:25] <chaospsyX> it will be listed by 'ethernet controller'
[06:25] <Dark_Link> whats the apt source so i can downgrade video drivers
[06:25] <Herbs> chaospsyX it should be
[06:25] <Dark_Link> for 11.0.4
[06:25] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, ısn't it better if jack123 try live CD and if works let the CD make the installation in what way it sees OK?
[06:25] <chaospsyX> yeah
[06:26] <chaospsyX> he did that already and said internet wasn't working though right ? jack123?
[06:26] <marenostrum> yes.
[06:26] <Herbs> marenostrum no why let anything decide especially when you are trying to fix an issue!
[06:26] <chaospsyX> jack123: Have you booted into the live cd and done 'try ubuntu' ?
[06:27] <marenostrum> Herbs, Can you figure out the problem?
[06:27] <Herbs> not yet
[06:27] <taglass> chaospsyX: I believe he left to go boot the live cd.  I haven't noticed him log back in
[06:27] <multipass__> Hi, i cant get edge flipping to work properly in 11.04 Gnome... anyone have any solutions or ideas?
[06:27] <chaospsyX> why was he saying his internet wasn't working????
[06:28] <chaospsyX> and why would a live cd ask him to select a kernel image? he has left out some info
[06:28] <chaospsyX> grub does that after installation
[06:28] <pie_> what has ctrl-alt-backspace been replaced with?
[06:29] <administrator_> Hello
[06:29] <administrator_> Is anyone  here
[06:29] <ZykoticK9> pie_, alt+sysrq(usually printscreen)+k
[06:29] <chaospsyX> ahoy
[06:30] <administrator_> e
[06:30] <marenostrum> Herbs, Maybe you know: What's that 4 kernel options that Jack is saying? For may Debian and ubuntu installations up till now, I've never asked something like that.
[06:30] <chaospsyX> me neither
[06:30] <marenostrum> may=many
[06:30] <chaospsyX> i don't know what he was talking about.....
[06:30] <Herbs> marenostrum exactly thats why I think hes done something wrong
[06:30] <administrator_> 有懂汉语的吗？
[06:31] <taglass> !cn
[06:31] <marenostrum> Herbs, me too. Because of that I advice a syandard installation.
[06:31] <pie_> oh man this is disastrous lol
[06:31] <pie_> whered taskbarthings go xD
[06:31] <chaospsyX> he also mentioned something about the 'alternate' iso image way back too
[06:31] <traskers> I just installed Gnome Shell via ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3, but when I try to log in to the session, it tells me "Could not update ICEauthority (/home/users/.ICEauthority)" and kicks me out, can anyone help?
[06:32] <traskers> (Running 11.04)
[06:32] <pie_> what textfile do i reset to fix my screwed up gui? :/
[06:32] <chaospsyX> isn't that a text-based installation ?
[06:32] <chaospsyX> i'm not familiar with the alternate iso
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> pie_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf probably
[06:32] <taglass> pie_: Go to System Settings -> HArdware -> Keyboard -> Options -> Key sequence to kill the X server if you want the old ctrl - alt - bksp back
[06:32] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, First I mentioned alternate. Asked if you used that ISO. Then he asked what alternate is.
[06:33] <chaospsyX> oh lol
[06:33] <chaospsyX> nah i never used it
[06:33] <pie_> man im totally destroying this
[06:33] <karthick87> How to remove appearance from Preferences Menu?
[06:34] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, maybe it was better to ask him the name or md5sum of the ISO he downloaded.
[06:35] <taglass> He said the filename for natty 64 bit livecd
[06:35] <traskers> I just installed Gnome Shell via ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 on a new installation of 11.04, but when I try to log in to the session, it tells me "Could not update ICEauthority (/home/users/.ICEauthority)" and kicks me out, can anyone help?
[06:35] <Herbs> marenostrum probablly but then again hes seeing 4 kernels from the install disk lol
[06:35] <chaospsyX> he probably doesn't even know what md5 is
[06:35] <soap> kk
[06:35] <pie_> theres a sh script called Xreset, or should i just delete the xorg.conf file?
[06:36] <pie_> acually no xorg.conf
[06:36] <chaospsyX> the version of syslinux he was seeing was not what his iso image should have contained either
[06:36] <chaospsyX> so......who knows
[06:36] <marenostrum> Herbs, :( I feel bad for him. I hope he'll solve the problem because I don't think that there's a real problem. (I mean, he should connect.)
[06:36] <Herbs> maybe hes downloaded a root kitted rogue install
[06:37] <marenostrum> Herbs, Is there such a chance?!
[06:37] <pie_> >.<
[06:37] <robrrt> ?? uhh?
[06:37] <Herbs> marenostrum technically there is but the likeliness I dont know but end users never seem to suprise me
[06:38] <marenostrum> Herbs, I see. :)
[06:38] <zabyl> kernel bug http://bit.ly/jpStCy  line:2921
[06:38] <soap> has anybody used this ? http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/   i'm not sure if this'll work for dual boot config
[06:38] <zabyl> kernel bug http://bit.ly/m2BtFD line:1401
[06:39] <pie_> not to be naggy but...i have exams coming up and i kind of need to figure this out :/ ive never messed with xorg and i actually cant make any new windows come p other than irc because that  starts p automatically
[06:39] <pie_> *up
[06:39] <multipass__> Hi, i cant get edge flipping to work properly in 11.04 Gnome... anyone have any solutions or ideas?
[06:40] <zabyl> run into btrfs bugs in 11.04 Server x64
[06:40] <pie_> im logged in in the shell you get when you press ctrl+alt+f1
[06:41] <Herbs> pie_ what happens when you type service gdm start
[06:43] <zabyl> anyone using btrfs with 11.04 Server x64?
[06:43] <pie_> rejected send message, 1 matched rulelots of stuff hat would take a long time to type
[06:45] <zabyl> need help with btrfs bugs in 11.04 server
[06:47] <Herbs> pie_ service gdm start > output.txt then upload to pastebin
[06:47] <Dark_Link> can some one pleez tell me how to add these 2 sources deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-retro/ubuntu lucid main
[06:47] <Dark_Link> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-retro/ubuntu lucid main
[06:47] <Dark_Link> i cand add them for my lifr for some reason
[06:48] <marenostrum> Interesting. When did I say Firefox to remember my pass for Launchpad? I don't like this. Maybe by an accident but I don't like this!
[06:48] <zabyl>  ext2 /boot  btrfs / works with 10.10 Server x64
[06:48] <Herbs> Im not promising to help I know nothing about gui but just troubleshooting steps
[06:48] <Starminn> marenostrum: So tell it not to.
[06:48] <zabyl> kernel bugs with 11.04
[06:48] <FHtrain> i dont know what happened i can no longer log on to wubi. when i boot and choose ubuntu, it says something about TAB and i cant log on. and when i connect the drive with wubi installed to another ubuntu os, i can only find the windows files. what happened to the ubuntu files?
[06:49] <Dark_Link> herbs do you know how to add sources/
[06:49] <Dark_Link> ?
[06:49] <sunshine1> be more specific,FHtrain
[06:49] <Herbs> dark_link as in add to repo list
[06:49] <sunshine1> wat is this TAB??
[06:49] <marenostrum> Starminn, I will do so but first I want to see if it remembered it against my will. I want to check (I don't know how to test :) )
[06:49] <Dark_Link> yes like via terminal
[06:50] <Dark_Link> i cant seem to get it right
[06:50] <gordolinux> is it possible to configure a per workspace spread mode in ubuntu?
[06:50] <Starminn> marenostrum: Delete all form data and current logins, then try to replicate it.
[06:50] <gordolinux> i don't like seeing all my windows at once.
[06:51] <Herbs> dark_link open /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:51] <duende> hola buenas noches
[06:51] <Dark_Link> opened
[06:51] <marenostrum> Starminn, Yea. Thanks.
[06:51] <duende> alhuien sab de xubuntu???
[06:51] <duende> *alguien?
[06:51] <duende> xubuntu?
[06:51] <FHtrain> sunshine1,  in the command line it gives me option to type TAB and when i do, i see all these commands i dont understand
[06:51] <Herbs> dark_link and add the repo usually iirc deb http://repo
[06:52] <pie_> i got it
[06:52] <pie_> of all things i forgot sudo
[06:52] <Starminn> !xubuntu | duende
[06:52] <pie_> and i finally found where toset the layout at login
[06:52] <pie_> thanks
[06:52] <duende> ubottu gracias!! :D
[06:53] <pie_> someting still doesnt seem right though...
[06:53] <zabyl> anyone can help with btrfs bug in 11.04
[06:53] <duende> I know xubuntu but i have problem
[06:53] <Herbs> dark_link you will need to add the key also but Im not that familiar with apt Ive been a slackware/redhat (based user) so used to yum
[06:53] <Dark_Link> ya and thats what im failing at
[06:53] <duende> starminn thak you
[06:53] <STF> how can i change the keymaps, cause the installationroutine give me the english one an not the german
[06:53] <Dark_Link> i cant seem to add the key right
[06:53] <duende> alquien habla español ???
[06:53] <q0_0p> anyone know how to install unity on 10.04?
[06:54] <bazhang> !es | duende
[06:54] <digitech> does anyone know of a terminal/DOS looking theme for mIRC?
[06:54] <Starminn> !espanol | duende
[06:54] <Dark_Link> unity comes installed
[06:54] <Starminn> Dark_Link: 10.04
[06:54] <duende> gracias!!! :D voy a un canal en Ñ
[06:54] <q0_0p> Dark_Link, really?
[06:54] <Starminn> q0_0p: No. He misread
[06:54] <Dark_Link> yes
[06:55] <Starminn> duende:  /join #ubuntu-es
[06:55] <q0_0p> Dark_Link, menu doesn't look the same like unity
[06:55] <Dark_Link> isnt the bar part of unity/
[06:55] <STF> how can i change the keymaps, cause the installationroutine give me the english one an not the german
[06:55] <Dark_Link> oh duno then
[06:55] <dspace> Dark_Link: The instructions to add the PPA are here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[06:55] <Starminn> Dark_Link: As I said, he said 10.04. Not 11.04.
[06:55] <Dark_Link> yes and im failing some how
[06:56] <dspace> Dark_Link: Basically, type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[06:56] <dspace> then: sudo apt-get update
[06:56] <Dark_Link> X(
[06:56] <Dark_Link> ty
[06:56] <glacia> ok i think i need some help..... somethings not right with my system
[06:56] <Starminn> !details | glacia
[06:58] <q0_0p> 2.6.32-31-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 18:24:35 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:58] <q0_0p> using ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[06:58] <sjuxax> I am using natty server in a VM. I cahnged the MAC address from what it was installed with and now eth0 won't appear. How do I fix this? I've tried dpkg-reconfigure network to no win
[06:58] <Herbs> q0_0p you have updated the kernel thats all
[06:59] <STF> how can i change the keymaps, cause the installationroutine give me the english one an not the german
[06:59] <Dark_Link> dspace, 'xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4'
[06:59] <Dark_Link>  :(
[06:59] <pie_> i found something quite problematic with selecting the classic layout on login,theres no window frames just thw windows
[06:59] <duende> Starminn gracias! ya estoy ahí. Thack you I am there
[06:59] <q0_0p> Herbs, not understanding
[06:59] <Dark_Link> cant find it
[06:59] <q0_0p> Herbs, are you saying i should update the kernel?
[06:59] <pie_> any popups and such from firefox etc dont have minimize, exit maximize or move
[06:59] <Herbs> q0_0p your kernel has updated so thats why grum menu has changed
[06:59] <Herbs> grub*
[06:59] <Starminn> duende: De nada.
[07:00] <sjuxax> lspci shows it as an Ethernet controller, but does not show in ifconfig
[07:00] <glacia> i dont think i have all the drivers or something..... I have a great system that can handle anything but for some reason running ubuntu and games on wine its not up to par
[07:00] <q0_0p> Herbs, not having any troubles with grub
[07:00] <q0_0p> Herbs, just wondering if there was a package for unity
[07:00] <dspace> Dark_Link: What are you trying to do exactly?
[07:00] <main> grup what is that
[07:00] <Dark_Link> downgrade the video drivers for performance
[07:01] <Dark_Link> my intell gma 945 just fails
[07:01] <Dark_Link> cant play simple youtube
[07:01] <Dark_Link> let alone 3d edditing
[07:01] <Herbs> q0_0p theres a package for any software
[07:01] <dspace> Dark_Link: What version do you have and what version are you trying to get?
[07:03] <Dark_Link> im trying to get 2.4
[07:03] <pie_> *sigh*
[07:03] <Herbs> dark_link 2.4 kernel ?
[07:03] <Dark_Link> drivers
[07:03] <inimeg> < drunk linux user
[07:05] <glacia> honestly i think i just need an ubuntu advisor or tutor i can talk to lol
[07:06] <jack123> hello i am back
[07:06] <jack123> chaospsyX you there.?
[07:07] <chaospsyX> im here
[07:07] <chaospsyX> so what happened
[07:07] <Dark_Link> and i have X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver o.o
[07:07] <jack123> marenostrum.
[07:07] <jack123> i am on ubuntu
[07:07] <Liera> good aternoon everyone!
[07:07] <jack123> its working with live cd
[07:07] <chaospsyX> what took so long ?
[07:08] <chaospsyX> ;-)
[07:08] <jack123> not working with installed
[07:08] <marenostrum> jack123, Yes Jack. I'm here.
[07:08] <jack123> i am trying to figure out
[07:08] <chaospsyX> are you doing a dual-boot? or giving ubuntu  the whole hdd
[07:08] <jack123> its working it live usb but not working while i install it
[07:08] <Herbs> jack123 reinstall you did soemething wrong last time getting to the bottom of what would take longer than a reinstall
[07:08] <jack123> i am giving whole 160 gb
[07:08] <jack123> to ubuntu
[07:09] <chaospsyX> reinstall
[07:09] <marenostrum> jack123, What is the ISO you have at hand? name? bd5sum?
[07:09] <jack123> damn this is strange . internet works on live cd but doesnt work after installation
[07:09] <Dark_Link> i see the package isnt in that source
[07:09] <jack123> ubuntu 11.04 amd 64 bit
[07:10] <luckysmack> when running 'apt-get update' is it possible to only update a single source/repository?
[07:10] <duende> hi!!
[07:10] <duende> I can not see a video maximized without restarting the graphical environment
[07:10] <duende> :(
[07:10] <marenostrum> jack123, You are sure that 64 bit is OK for you?
[07:10] <duende> in xubuntu 11.04
[07:10] <jack123> yeah i am sure its working with the live usb
[07:11] <jack123> how to find out system specs on linux i will copy paste here
[07:11] <Clerisy> what software can i use to format a usb with an os?
[07:11] <Herbs> jack123 top and copy the main bit at the top if that makes any sense
[07:11] <marenostrum> jack123, Interesting but now we know that it works with live CD so we should try to find what is different with the installed system. Friends, any idea to check?
[07:12] <chaospsyX> Clerisy: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pendrivelinux.com%2Funiversal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3%2F&rct=j&q=pendrivelinux%20123&ei=ppy_Tc-gCoPpgQf_t9jbAg&usg=AFQjCNGdSazRNs32lEZo8ZfvenfYK9ML_A&cad=rja
[07:12] <glacia> i really need help figuring out why my top of the line computer is failing to run a steam game like it did in windows
[07:12] <chaospsyX> oops
[07:12] <FloodBot1> chaospsyX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <jack123> yeah interesting for me as well
[07:12] <Herbs> galacia steam wont work on linux its written for windows
[07:12] <main> Herbs you called me?
[07:12] <glacia> even with wine or playonlinux
[07:12] <chaospsyX> i have no idea, try a reinstall
[07:13] <jack123> if re install doesnt works :(
[07:13] <Herbs> main no might have typed main :)
[07:13] <Clerisy> chaospsyX» thats an .exe
[07:13] <marenostrum> jack123, Did it ask anything such as kernel etc. during installation?
[07:13] <chaospsyX> you trying to make a live usb stick ?
[07:13] <jack123> yeah it did ask but i selected the defaults 1
[07:13] <Clerisy> yes ch
[07:13] <Clerisy> chaospsyX»
[07:13] <Clerisy> under linux though
[07:13] <jack123> though i got 4 kernels
[07:13] <marenostrum> jack123, ı see.
[07:14] <chaospsyX> download unetbootin then clerisy
[07:14] <glacia> Herbs, even with wine or playonlinux. the Playonlinux is what steam says to use
[07:14] <jack123> wait i will show you
[07:14] <duende> hi... i have a problem with xubuntu ...
[07:14] <Clerisy> thanks
[07:14] <duende> anybody?? ...
[07:14] <chaospsyX> yes please jack,want to see this
[07:14] <Herbs> glacia wine would be your best bet but Im not a windows user sorry
[07:14] <jack123> install ubuntu wont close this i guess.?
[07:14] <chaospsyX> i don't think so, Herbs ?
[07:15] <marenostrum> jack123, On both the live CD and the installed system what is the result of uname -a . I mean, lets try to check the kernel versions.
[07:15] <Herbs> glacia but If it uses .net then you might as well forget it
[07:15] <jack123> how ot do that
[07:15] <chaospsyX> jack do you have another usb stick? your going to need to save the screen capture some how to upload it
[07:15] <chaospsyX> open the terminal jack
[07:15] <glacia> can wine or some program be used to play WoW?
[07:15] <chaospsyX> applications > accesories > terminal
[07:16] <Dark_Link> wow
[07:16] <DaHopi> hello, in 11.04 (unity) my left panel doesnt hide if i maximize my app window..
[07:16] <chaospsyX> type uname -a
[07:16] <Dark_Link> it is just as bad
[07:16] <chaospsyX> do the same command once you install
[07:16] <Maahes> what's 11.04's name?
[07:16] <misse-> Natty Narwhal Maahes
[07:16] <jack123>  Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:16] <Maahes> glacia: yes, wine can play wow, there's a wiki for setting it up
[07:16] <Maahes> misse-: thankyou
[07:17] <glacia> Maahes, link to the wiki please?
[07:17] <marenostrum> jack123, was that one for the installed?
[07:17] <Maahes> glacia: google wine hq for list of games supported and look for wow, there's a link there.
[07:17] <Starminn> !wineh1 | glacia
[07:17] <Starminn> !winehq | glacia
[07:17] <chaospsyX> jack123: when you installed and got to partitioning what did you select? 'use entire disk' ?
[07:17] <jack123> you mean 2.6.38.8.?
[07:17] <jack123> yes entire disk
[07:18] <duende> hola?? ...
[07:18] <chaospsyX> jack123: you need to check the md5 of the iso image
[07:18] <chaospsyX> and see if they match
[07:18] <duende> tengo problemas con el video de xubuntu ... alguien me puede colaborar??
[07:18] <jack123> hmm
[07:18] <Starminn> duende: Va a #ubuntu-es.
[07:19] <marenostrum> jack123, lets check md5sum of the ISO now.
[07:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> alright, my friend is having issues with his computer, yet he feels that his knowledge of linux is insufficient for him to come to the IRC channel and ask for help, so I'm going to for him since I'm not sure what is up. He has a dual boot, windows 7 64bit and ubuntu 32bit. when he boots, he gets a "select OS" screen, and then when he chooses ubuntu, he gets taken to grub2, where he has to choose ubuntu again, but this leads to a blank
[07:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> screen with a blinking cursor and nothing happens (note that this was after he attempted to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04), choosing windows takes him back to the first boot selection, and choosing windows from there boots windows 7. He installed windows 7 first, and then ubuntu on a different partition on the same hard drive.
[07:19] <jack123> ok
[07:19] <marenostrum> jack123, do you know how to do?
[07:19] <Herbs> jack123  2.6.38-8-generic  what install are you using?
[07:19] <jack123> nope
[07:19] <Herbs> thats an old kernel
[07:19] <jpohl> how do i change gdm theme/appearance in xubuntu?
[07:20] <Dark_Link> X( netbook suport still fails in ubuntu
[07:20] <marenostrum> jack123, Opğen a terminal go to where the ISO is. write md5sum nameoffile.iso
[07:21] <jack123> ok  thanks
[07:21] <marenostrum> I'm waiting here. lets solve this.
[07:21] <jack123> i am not able to open windows  disk
[07:21] <jack123> its in tuere
[07:21] <jack123> its in there
[07:21] <chaospsyX> on another computer?
[07:21] <skyion> Hi Guys
[07:21] <misse-> jpohl: http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org/tutorials/205/ <-- that will make your loginscreen spawn the gnome-appearance window, so just change the background and login
[07:21] <jack123> though i am able to open external hard disk
[07:21] <chaospsyX> or another disk in same computer case?
[07:22] <skyion> is there a problem with the ubuntu repo? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602636/
[07:22] <jack123> ok i am able to open installation  locked it
[07:22] <chaospsyX> jack123: ?
[07:22] <marenostrum> jack123, There's a tool for windows you can find from download.com : md5summer . You can get md5sum of the ISO with that.
[07:23] <chaospsyX> do you have two hard-drives in the computer jack?
[07:23] <Herbs> skion cleaning the cache may work whatever the alternative yo yum clean all is for apt
[07:23] <duende> hi, i have a problem with xubuntu,  I can not see a video maximized without restarting the graphical environment
[07:23] <jack123> ok it working
[07:23] <duende> help....
[07:23] <Starminn> duende: Have you tried asking in #xubuntu.
[07:23] <duende> i have xubuntu 11.04
[07:23] <skyion> I have tried the za and gb and main mirror but seems to always bomb out on http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com natty/main
[07:23] <skyion> Herbs: tried clearing cache & different mirrors but same problem.
[07:24] <jpohl> misse-: the very first command on that page gives me "No such file or directory"
[07:24] <duende> starmoin ok
[07:24] <duende> starminn ok
[07:24] <skyion> apt-get clean && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[07:25] <jack123> how to copy the location of the file
[07:25] <jack123> i can see the file
[07:25] <chaospsyX> are you seeing it in ubuntu ?
[07:25] <jack123> yes
[07:26] <jack123> team viewer works on ubuntu
[07:26] <jack123> .?
[07:26] <chaospsyX> the usb stick is read-only
[07:26] <bullgard4> jack123: Yes.
[07:26] <chaospsyX> when in live mode
[07:26] <jack123> chaos give me desktop support
[07:26] <jack123> remote desktop
[07:26] <Herbs> skion thanks, hmm not sure what youd do from this point with apt as I dont believe it has a verify option like yum
[07:27] <chaospsyX> my connection is too slow right now too do that
[07:27] <jack123> ok i guess i have to log in windows again
[07:27] <jack123> brb
[07:27] <chaospsyX> jack123: does windows have the entire disk ? the other disk that it is on
[07:27] <chaospsyX> wait
[07:27] <chaospsyX> windows have entire disk ?
[07:27] <jack123> yes 500 gb
[07:28] <chaospsyX> it has all 500gb?
[07:28] <jack123> and i am trying to install ubuntu on 160 gb
[07:28] <jack123> no its has 4 paritions 100 gb each  of 500 gb
[07:28] <traskers> I'm running Gnome Shell in 11.04, but I can't seem to get Gnome Tweak Tool to see my themes that I put in /usr/share/themes, can anyone help?
[07:28] <chaospsyX> ok reboot into windows and download md5sum and get the md5 of the ubuntu iso
[07:28] <chaospsyX> write it down
[07:28] <chaospsyX> and come back
[07:29] <chaospsyX> google md5sum program
[07:29] <marenostrum> jack123, md5summer
[07:29] <jack123> ok
[07:29] <Herbs> 4 100gb partitions why?
[07:30] <Herbs> and which are primary and which are logical whats the partition structure?
[07:30] <chaospsyX> i have temperature and weather checked but it's not showing up on the panel ?
[07:30] <amitush> someone here knows how to install edimax pci wireless card?
[07:31] <chaospsyX> Herbs, when i tried Fedora it did a LVG for partitioning,what is that?
[07:31] <amitush> cause i cant install it
[07:31] <chaospsyX> it took up the entire hd but said there was free space ?
[07:31] <chaospsyX> it is like extended parts inside a logical part?
[07:31] <amitush> i have this card: EW-7711In
[07:32] <Herbs> chaospsyX without going into details its similar to raid0
[07:33] <Herbs> but its logical
[07:33] <chaospsyX> oh
[07:34] <bullgard4> Where can I find the logs of yesterday's ubuntu-classroom lessons?
[07:34] <Rehan> could someone help me copy my ubuntu installation on a partition on my hard drive to my USB flash drive?
[07:34] <Herbs> Ive not used it much but partition resizing is more reliable
[07:35] <bullgard4> !details | Rehan
[07:35] <boomboorum> Gwibber does not load twitter messages and does not post anything.
[07:35] <boomboorum> When run from terminal I get :
[07:35] <boomboorum> ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on com.Gwibber.Messages:/com/gwibber/Messages: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.Gwibber.Messages was not provided by any .service files
[07:35] <boomboorum> (gwibber:3041): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-DEBUG: Could not handle image type 6
[07:35] <boomboorum> and for  $gwibber-service -d -o
[07:35] <FloodBot1> boomboorum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:36] <boomboorum> My gwibber does not load any messages:
[07:36] <boomboorum> http://pastebin.com/dJ20TXZv
[07:36] <miki> ciao
[07:36] <Rehan> bullgard4: I have ubuntu 11.04 installed on one 10gb partition of my laptop's hard drive along with Win7 on another partition (490gb). Grub2 is on the MBR. I would like to duplicate my 10GB ubuntu install onto my 16GB flash memory drive and make it so that I could boot from it. I'm not very skilled but am eager to learn.
[07:36] <marenostrum> Herbs, You told jack123 that  2.6.38-8-generic is an old kernel but its the same with mine. Its what for Natty for me as well. And I have a working up to date system. Did I miss something?
[07:37] <jack123> hi am back
[07:37] <boomboorum> And when I it from terminal I get  http://pastebin.com/ZLTea4EW
[07:37] <marenostrum> jack123, yess
[07:37] <Herbs> marenostrum I issed the *.*.38* I was thinking 32
[07:38] <DaHopi> http://img534.imageshack.us/f/launcheru.jpg/ "launcher" does not hide on maximized window..
[07:38] <marenostrum> jack123, What's md5sum?
[07:38] <bullgard4> boomboorum: You could purge your Gwibber and re-install without theFacebook plugin first. See if that works.
[07:39] <boomboorum> bullgard4:  not sure how to do that. What is purge?
[07:39] <Herbs> dpkg -p package
[07:39] <jack123> 7DE611B50C283C1755B4007A4FEB0379 *ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:39] <jack123> perfect.?
[07:40] <bullgard4> boomboorum: to purge - to completely remove (the package, using for example Synaptic). Ok?
[07:41] <boomboorum> bullgard4:   ok, thanks
[07:41] <Rehan> I have ubuntu 11.04 installed on one 10gb partition of my laptop's hard drive along with Win7 on another partition (490gb). Grub2 is on the MBR. I would like to duplicate my 10GB ubuntu install onto my 16GB flash memory drive and make it so that I could boot from it. I'm not very skilled but am eager to learn.
[07:41] <marenostrum> jack123, I'm trying to gind . If any friend has it, check. or wait some please.
[07:41] <jack123> yeah i am waiting
[07:41] <michele> ciaooo
[07:42] <chaospsyX> i'm thinking the md5 is off
[07:42] <chaospsyX> and your going to have to re-download the iso
[07:42] <michele> list
[07:42] <jack123> are you sure chaos.?
[07:43] <chaospsyX> wait, let marenostrum see what the md5 is
[07:43] <bullgard4> Rehan: Try to use System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator
[07:43] <chaospsyX> if they match
[07:43] <jack123> how to find out the original md5.?
[07:43] <Starminn> Herbs: dpkg -p <package> versus sudo apt-get purge <package>?
[07:44] <chaospsyX> there is a file
[07:44] <mk0> did anyone meet the error with ICEauthority after gnome3 installation on 11.04?
[07:44] <Herbs> starminn not to sure tbh Im used to yum and just getting used to ubuntu but Ive used debian before so would use dpkg but thats a personal preference
[07:44] <mk0> jack123, unetbootin.
[07:45] <chaospsyX> jack123:  checking now
[07:45] <mk0> better with not used usb flash or cd
[07:45] <jack123> ok
[07:45] <Rehan> bullgard4: that asks for an ISO...is there a way to do it using dd?
[07:45] <chaospsyX> jack123: they match
[07:46] <chaospsyX> what program did you use to make the usb ?
[07:46] <bullgard4> Rehan: There is. But I do not know any details.
[07:46] <Starminn> Herbs: Ah.
[07:47] <jack123> coool
[07:47] <chaospsyX> remake the usb with unetbootin jack
[07:47] <Maahes> is there a way to tell Synaptic to just download, and not install marked packages?
[07:47] <marenostrum> jack123, md5sum is correct.
[07:47] <bullgard4> Rehan: One dd command alone is not enough.
[07:47] <jack123> i used the same which stated on the ubuntu website
[07:47] <jack123> yeah thanks marenostrum
[07:47] <jack123> so whats next
[07:48] <Rehan> bullgard4: whats that mean
[07:48] <chaospsyX> remake the usb
[07:48] <chaospsyX> use unetbootin
[07:48] <jack123> ok
[07:48] <marenostrum> jack123, original here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/MD5SUMS
[07:48] <chaospsyX> make sure you format the usb
[07:48] <jack123> ok
[07:48] <chaospsyX> as fat32
[07:48] <mk0> jack123, use only new usb flash or cd. or you will get errors constantly.
[07:48] <jack123> usb only supports fat32
[07:49] <chaospsyX> oh,lol
[07:49] <jack123> ha ha ha
[07:49] <mk0> or good quality.
[07:49] <chaospsyX> can you burn discs jack ?
[07:49] <jack123> yes i can
[07:49] <chaospsyX> burn the iso to a cd
[07:49] <jack123> shall i burn .?
[07:49] <chaospsyX> frees up the usb too
[07:50] <chaospsyX> yeah burn it and install it
[07:50] <bullgard4> Rehan: That means that you will have to do more operations than one dd command. Because the data on an USB stick is organized differently from a hard disk partition.
[07:50] <chaospsyX> burn as a data disc
[07:50] <jack123> i burn using alochol
[07:50] <chaospsyX> ok
[07:51] <jack123> ok is there any usb which supports ntfs.?
[07:51] <marenostrum> jack123, here's also how to do it briefly: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download Look at the burn VD section
[07:51] <marenostrum> * CD
[07:52] <jack123> ok
[07:52] <chaospsyX> i've had problems with usb installations
[07:52] <bullgard4> Where can I find the logs of yesterday's ubuntu-classroom lessons?
[07:52] <BajK> hey, how can I rotate an image using bash script? I read something about jpeg tools but, so I need a specific tool for each file type? the program should be installed right away if possible
[07:52] <jack123> brb
[07:52] <chaospsyX> k
[07:52] <marenostrum> jack123, waiting. Take your time.
[07:52] <Maahes> I have had zero problems with the pendrive linux installer
[07:52] <llutz> BajK: convert from imagemagick-package can do
[07:53] <Herbs> ! elaborate | bajk
[07:53] <serif> hello good morning all
[07:53] <Maahes> BajK: imagemagick (This message has been postponed.)
[07:53] <marenostrum> Sereph, Good morning
[07:53] <foodstamp> bullgard4  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[07:53] <BajK> ah nice :)
[07:53] <BajK> thx
[07:53] <BajK> so this works with all the common file formats (jpeg and png) ?
[07:53] <marenostrum> serif, Good morning!
[07:53] <Maahes> BajK: and many more.
[07:53] <BajK> nice :)
[07:54] <serif> how can i back to old menu in unity?pls
[07:54] <lysander89> hi guys, trying to do a natty upgrade, i get an error unable to fetch binary-i386/packages.bz2 due to hash sum mismatch. Any tips?
[07:54] <Maahes> Does anyone know if synaptic can be told to do a download only, rather than install?
[07:54] <Herbs> serif log out and select ubuntu classic as desktop before you login
[07:54] <serif> ok bro tahnx alot
[07:55] <Maahes> Herbs: totally brotacular.
[07:56] <Herbs> mahees :)
[07:57] <bullgard4> foodstamp: This refers to the year 2006. What I am asking for is logs of yesterday's classes.
[07:58] <marenostrum> jack123, Are you here? Burn the CD as an ISO image; NOT data cd.
[07:58] <jack123> yeah i am there i am burning the image
[07:59] <Herbs> thigers crossed for you jack123
[07:59] <Herbs> fingers even
[07:59] <Herbs> spent to long programming lol
[08:01] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, you2ve metioned by mistake "burn as a data disc". I realized it now. Hope he reads the page I gave. ubuntu howto for tISO burning.
[08:01] <DocPlatypus> situation: box has been running 9.10 until a couple days ago, when I decided to finally upgrade to 10.04 LTS. ever since then I have had sound switching over to "dummy output" for no reason I can figure out. where to begin troubleshooting this and/or how do I get it back to my soundcard when it does?
[08:02] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, ot should obviously be NOT data BIT ISO image.
[08:02] <marenostrum> *but
[08:03] <jack123> no its not mare
[08:03] <noo> hello I was wondering what exactly is saved in the locatedb, because I know that programs like these application quick launchers use them to find the commands. I tried to write such a thingy for fun using /usr/bin and /usr/sbin as my sources for applications, but somehow there are quiet a lot of things that are not really needed to be found by this kind of an application and that aren't found by common ones.Do they search in different places o
[08:03] <noo> r do they just filter in a proper way?
[08:03] <Herbs> docplatypus please provide your kernel version , and hardware information I cant help with desktop issues but it will help those that can
[08:03] <marenostrum> jack123, Why?
[08:03] <jack123> i am burning the iso directly
[08:03] <jack123> same process which you stated
[08:03] <chaospsyX> good
[08:04] <marenostrum> jack123, OK it means you are burning as an image not as a data CD.
[08:04] <jack123> yeah i am burning it as an image at slow speed
[08:04] <DocPlatypus> Herbs: sure. kernel -- 2.6.32-31-generic, audio -- 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[08:04] <chaospsyX> yeah follow the page he pointed you to jack on burning iso
[08:04] <chaospsyX> k
[08:04] <jack123> ok burning finished
[08:04] <marenostrum> jack123, OK. Perfect. Its what it should be.
[08:04] <chaospsyX> install that sucka
[08:04] <jack123> ha ha
[08:05] <jack123> yeah that sucka wasted hell lotta time of mine
[08:05] <marenostrum> jack123, While installing, if you like, check CD for defects. There's such a option at first. lets guarantee.
[08:07] <jack123> ok
[08:07] <jack123> brb after the install
[08:07] <marenostrum> jack123, waiting.
[08:07] <mk0> did anyone meet the error with ICEauthority after gnome3 installation on 11.04?
[08:07] <abhinav_singh> is there any good charting tool for openoffice calc?
[08:08] <Herbs> mk0 sounds like a bug
[08:09] <marenostrum> mk0, I didn't try but for gnome3 is not an official package right now... hard to say something.
[08:14] <Browser> Good Moorning
[08:14] <freakynl> Hi, I have 2 q's. I upgraded a 10.10 server edition to 11.04, ever since /var/log/messages is empty, is that normal? Restarting rsyslogd also doesn't make entries appear (syslog etc. are being logged to)
[08:15] <freakynl> secondly, I notice my md sets get a rebuild signal (probably for scrubbing). Has anyone any idea how that gets started? Don't see much in the crontabs except a scan to check if they haven't been degraded and no settings concerning it in mdadm.conf either
[08:16] <marenostrum> Browser, Hi!
[08:16] <Herbs> freakynl it would be empty after an upgrade I think
[08:16] <Joker_99> thats one thing i hate about irc everyone in the support rooms says "google it" or speak proper english (after they dont talk for 3 hours)
[08:16] <freakynl> Herbs: it's been 4 days
[08:16] <freakynl> Joker_99: depends on the support room, or well, mostly the active people in it
[08:17] <marenostrum> Joker_99, I won't say that. :) Question?
[08:17] <Herbs> freaknyl are you running an ftp server?
[08:18] <freakynl> Herbs: vcftpd is running, (no clue why... I never added it to start automatically) but it isn't reachable (firewalled :D)
[08:19] <Herbs> freaknyl /var/log/messages would log ftp connections so soething is wrong
[08:19] <Herbs> freaknyl what happens when you ftp localhost from the box
[08:19] <bullgard4> freakynl: My /var/log/messages has been filled the last time on Mar 17, 2011. (*surprise*)
[08:20] <freakynl> bullgard4: that seems rather impossible, unless your clock is inaccurate
[08:20] <Joker_99> yeah freeakynl ive seen it in every room ive been to so far except 1
[08:20] <Herbs> freaknyl would you mind giving me the servers ip?
[08:20] <freakynl> #gentoo is usually fine, most people newer to the internet seem to prefer forums tho', I've been using irc since 1995 :)
[08:20] <bullgard4> freakynl: My clock is accurate.
[08:21] <freakynl> Herbs: err yes :) it's firewalled too as stated you won't be able to reach anything anyways
[08:21] <Joker_99> i like #nmap its pretty slow thogh
[08:21] <red> I'm using ubuntu at work and wondering if I should upgrade to Natty? Could not find much info about what kind of files\settings I should back up
[08:21] <Herbs> freaknyl so whats the server doing and I assume its serving a local network?
[08:22] <luqui> How do I tell metacity not to run.  I'm using a different window manager, and it is causing my CPU to be eaten up.
[08:22] <freakynl> Herbs: it's running a java application. it should have filled messages at boot tho', it didn't. it does get rotated
[08:22] <luqui> but if i kill it it just respawns, and there is no option for it in gnome-session-properties
[08:22] <bullgard4> red: You should not. Better wait and see if the many bugs get fixed.
[08:23] <Herbs> freaknyl what writes the logs the java app?
[08:23] <niklasfi> has anyone installed gnome3 and is not able to sudo any longer?
[08:23] <Herbs> gnome3 will not affect sudo
[08:24] <gaurav_help> how i trace the which my application is connected with net or current activity of application
[08:24] <niklasfi> Herbs: well... it does. i cannot sudo in gnome-shell but i can in tty1
[08:24] <marenostrum> red, You can upgrade. You should backup your perdonal data files if you like to be on the safe side, especially if you don't have a seperate home partition. You don't need to backup any setting as far as I know.
[08:24] <niklasfi> Herbs:*gnome-terminal
[08:24] <freakynl> no rsyslogd should write the logs, normally hits on the firewall (which is everything except 2 ports from 2 specific IPs) get logged in messages too, this no longer happens either (and dmesg is *filled* with firewall hits)
[08:24] <openbees> installed a new sound theme in ubuntu 11.04 for different warning and desktop-login and desktop-logout like sounds everything is fine except desktop-logout sound not working..i have desktop-logout sound in newly installed sound theme .....how can i fix this problem
[08:24] <Herbs> you mean gksudo?
[08:25] <gaurav_help> how i trace the which my application is connected with net or current activity of application
[08:25] <luqui> can anyone help?  how can i tell metacity not to start?
[08:25] <Joker_99> sudo -i
[08:25] <Joker_99> sudo su
[08:25] <bullgard4> openbees: Try to play that particualr file using aplay.
[08:25] <Joker_99> gksudo
[08:25] <Herbs> !elaborate gaurav_help
[08:25] <Joker_99> su
[08:25] <niklasfi> Herbs: no i mean `sudo apt-get install` for example
[08:26] <marenostrum> red, the sense of Web upgarade is having your settings on the new release automatically as far as possible.
[08:26] <Joker_99> whaat u mean nik?
[08:26] <purvesh> how to turn on advance graphic mode in ubuntu 11.04 may be it is in default normal mode after upgrading from 10.10 ?
[08:26] <Herbs> niklasfi do you get any error messages
[08:27] <niklasfi> Joker_99 i mean i open a gnome-terminal and enter my password and i get "sorry, try again" (wrong password)
[08:27] <openbees> bullgard4: ya that file is playing properly in /usr/sounds/ ...but i am getting logout sound of ubuntu sound theme
[08:27] <gaurav_help> i am using eclipse and i am updating my plugins i want 2 know from where eclipse is making connection . like netstat it shows me i want 2 see the details of that
[08:27] <Herbs> niklasfi but gnome3 should have no bearing on a shell
[08:27] <niklasfi> Joker_99: but i can log in if i press ctrl-alt-f1
[08:28] <NielsMkn> hey guys
[08:28] <niklasfi> and i can sudo there
[08:28] <freakynl> hmm /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf contains no references to /var/log/messages whatsoever, only 2 other files in there ... 20-ufw.conf and postfix.conf (no number?), none of these define /var/log/messages, has it been deprecated or am I lacking config files?
[08:28] <marenostrum> Nielsen, Hi!
[08:28] <openbees> bullgard4:  any idea?
[08:28] <NielsMkn> I'm installing ubuntu via wubi but its taking a long time at 'creating virtual disk' step
[08:28] <Lungan> Having sound trouble. The sound work at my computer when it shows the "asus" logo, but then in ubuntu no sound works? no mute, and sounds on
[08:29] <Herbs> niklasfi can you ssh to the box with the same creds?
[08:29] <boomboorum> Is there any alternative to Gwibber?
[08:29] <Joker_99> u check caps and num lock?
[08:29] <bullgard4> openbees: Then I can give only a general advice yet: Try to establish the association between the logout event and triggering that particular sound file.
[08:29] <niklasfi> Herbs: yes
[08:29] <Joker_99> and u sure u have the right pass
[08:29] <Herbs> niklasfi hmm strange
[08:29] <gaurav_help> when i am updating my eclipse plugin it always get terminated at 49 % shows me fetching error
[08:29] <openbees> bullgard4: how can i do so?
[08:29] <freakynl> can someone on 11.04 (64 bit) server send me their (pref unmodified / default) contents of /etc/rsyslog.d?
[08:29] <NielsMkn> any idea whats wrong?
[08:30] <Joker_99> oooohhhhhh nik i know exactly what your talking about
[08:30] <niklasfi> Joker_99 i tried yesterday slept a night and tried again today... and i know thte passwords are identical .
[08:30] <Joker_99> yeah it started after the update
[08:30] <bullgard4> !sound | openbees
[08:30] <Herbs> niklasfi what happens if you enter run level 3 instead of gui can you suso then?
[08:31] <varun> hi friends,i want to know how to configure conky,i just installed conky,the conky screen is black,i dont know how to use,please help
[08:31] <Joker_99> i have that bug on my server back home i havent tackeled it yet cause i had to leave town shortly after i upgraded
[08:31] <niklasfi> Herbs: how do i run level3?
[08:31] <Herbs> init3
[08:31] <Herbs> or init 3
[08:32] <Xinux> Hola!
[08:32] <mtron> varun see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/how-to-install-and-configure-conky.html
[08:32] <marenostrum> Xinux, hi!
[08:33] <niklasfi> Herbs: you mean select shell at the login screen?
[08:34] <niklasfi> Herbs: that works
[08:34] <Herbs> niklasfi that will probably work Im used to servers not desktops though
[08:34] <abhinav_singh> is it necessary to purge openoffice before installing libre office
[08:34] <Herbs> niklasfi looks like an ubuntu bug then
[08:35] <Herbs> or gnome3 bug but why its messing with the terminal I have no idea
[08:35] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, Not a must, for some time in the past I had both installed. But purge remove would be better not to interfere anything to Libre Office from Open Office settings or files etc.
[08:36] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, In my opinion. I'm not an expert.
[08:36] <Herbs> niklasfi probably the strat up script and when it enters lvl 5
[08:36] <niklasfi> Herbs: well it works there
[08:37] <Lungan> Got no sound in 11.04?
[08:38] <abhinav_singh> i want to try libre office first and if suits me then i will uninstall openoffice marenostrum:
[08:39] <gaurav_help> how do i trace ip address through terminal
[08:39] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, Then, do nothing to Open Office and plainly install Libre Office. After that, you may purge both and install what you like if you want a cleanly purged install.
[08:40] <aki_> hello
[08:40] <hateball> gaurav_help: What do you mean trace? mtr is a nice tool for traceroute
[08:40] <abhinav_singh> yup marenostrum
[08:41] <Stef> Hello, I get an "unable to mount cd, not authorized" error on my ltsp clients when I try to mount a cd, does anyone know how to fix this?
[08:41] <marenostrum> Lungan, I read your sound problem but can't say anything. I may advice to try it with the live CD and if works there -probably work- try to see what is different in your installation.
[08:41] <marenostrum> Lungan, Not a very sophisticated way, but sometimes works.
[08:41] <red> bullgard4: is there any info what the worst bugs are for now?
[08:41] <red> (apart from browsing the tracker)
[08:42] <purvesh> how to set Set the visual effects in ubuntu 11.04 does any one have idea ?
[08:42] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, By the way, I can assure you that Libre Office is very very good. There's no reason to prefer Open Office. Don't afraid.
[08:43] <bullgard4> red I do not know what you refer to. I am lost.
[08:43] <BOBBY_> Hello, I want to install ubuntu as a dual boot with XP have run wubi twice, the first time I installed it on the same drive as XP but when I brought up ubuntu from the menu it said something about no root file so i tried again but gave it its own partion and I didnt even Get the menu. I uninstalled both times so what should I do now to get it working
[08:43] <red> >bullgard4| red: You should not. Better wait and see if the many bugs get fixed.
[08:43] <red> was refering to this :)
[08:44] <BOBBY_> Hello, I want to install ubuntu as a dual boot with XP have run wubi twice, the first time I installed it on the same drive as XP but when I brought up ubuntu from the menu it said something about no root file so i tried again but gave it its own partion and I didnt even Get the menu. I uninstalled both times so what should I do now to get it working
[08:44] <bullgard4> red I see. The worst bugs are in Unity. GNOME 3 is a project in progress and has many bugs as well. These 2 are the biggest culprits.
[08:44] <Joker_99> hey in one of the irc's its saying cannot paste to channel...?
[08:45] <Herbs> bobby_ sounds like wubi isnt setting the mount points I wont try to help as Ive never used it but might help someone who has
[08:45] <red> I was under the impression I could continue using Gnome 2 if Unity didnt work well for me?
[08:45] <tobapramudia> hiii people
[08:45] <bullgard4> red: Yes you can. Actually, I have done so too.
[08:45] <red> Ok good
[08:45] <marenostrum> BOBBY_, have you examine here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[08:45] <BOBBY_> Herbs: what does that mean
[08:45] <DirtyDawg> Joker_99: maybee your nick isnt registered?
[08:45] <BOBBY_> ill have a look
[08:46] <Herbs> bobby_ it means it doesent know what to do with the file system
[08:46] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: Don't use wubi. Install a normal dual boot by booting from the Ubuntu install CD and running the installer there.
[08:46] <BOBBY_> i cant find an option to do that
[08:47] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: Do you know how to burn a .iso file to a CD?
[08:47] <marenostrum> BOBBY_, ıs it a must to use Wubi way? can't you give a try to CD dual-boot installation if you can't solve Wubi problem?
[08:47] <BOBBY_> Yes I have made a USB Pen but when I did wubi I erased it
[08:48] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: Make another bootable flash drive with Ubuntu and boot from it to install Ubuntu to your hard drive.
[08:48] <red> Only time I've had problems installing from USB was when I checked the checbox to make it possible to save temp files on the USB stick
[08:48] <BOBBY_> But i dont want it to erase Xp
[08:48] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: There are great step by step instructions @ http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[08:48] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: It won't.
[08:48] <red> bobby_: It won't erase your XP
[08:48] <BOBBY_> Thanks
[08:48] <red> Unless you specify it to that it
[08:49] <marenostrum> Herbs, So, do you say that Wubi is something which can not be used? Weird. (I have no idea on Wubi.)
[08:49] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: You're welcome.
[08:49] <ojii> Is there a way to replace the 'view photos' shortcut in the launcher with something else?
[08:49] <Herbs> marenostrum Ive never used wubi but I also rarely use gui apart from my desktop but would not trust anything that runs in windows
[08:50] <dijonyummy> if i install kubuntu on my 10.10 gome, how can i go back to gnome if i need to
[08:50] <ph88> i want to recover some files and i already have the byte offset ... now i want to do a raw read ... should i use dd, dd_rescue, savehd7, GNU ddrescue or dd_rhelp ??
[08:50] <dijonyummy> will it have a choice at the login screen, or more complicated than that
[08:50] <Joker_99> hey is the nick server up?
[08:51] <marenostrum> Herbs, me too :) But friends developing Wubi should konow something. Else, it would be a waste of time to develope it.
[08:51] <Herbs> marenostrum I totally agree but I have no experience with it sorr
[08:51] <Herbs> y
[08:53] <vega> dijonyummy: you can choose at login screen
[08:53] <miles__> Hello, I'm currently using the New Wave theme in Unity and the top panel has a black text on a black background, unreadable. How to fix this?
[08:54] <dijonyummy> vega: cool thanks!
[08:56] <casey> Does anyone know how to print borderless with custom sizes? Any program will work, I just want to know. I have an HP inkjet if that helps?
[08:57] <marenostrum> miles__, I'm on the default theme but I've just tried New Wave and didn't experience your problem. Maybe it helps to customize more after you switch to New Wave.
[08:58] <milen8204> what was the name of the tools for PC temperature observing ?
[08:58] <miles__> marenostrum, what do you mean by "customize more"?
[09:00] <marenostrum> miles__, Go to system settings > appearence. Choose the theme. Then there's a bullet at the bottom saying something as "customize" (mine is Turkish locale, I retranslate). From  there you can make some more settings as I can see. maybe you find something for the text colour etc.
[09:01] <Herbs> miles_ youve used windows before ?
[09:01] <casey> Does anyone know how to print borderless with custom sizes? Any program will work, I just want to know. I have an HP inkjet if that helps?
[09:02] <sdollins> Has anyone had issues with broadcom drivers after installing some recent updates?
[09:02] <sdollins> (using natty btw)
[09:02] <marenostrum> casey, I don't have a printer at the noment but what's the problen when -lets say- you try via Libre Office?
[09:02] <mgj> In 11.04, how do i change my workspace positioning? Default has a 2x2 grid, but i would much prefer a 1x4 row.
[09:02] <BrunoPE> sdollins, broadcom not but atheros yes
[09:03] <casey> marenostrum: the problem is I have a custom jpeg that I would like to print out. However, no matter what program I use, it always makes a border.
[09:03] <robin0800> casey,  you should find that in printer properties if your printer supports this
[09:03] <sdollins> Odd. It just completely screwed up earlier. I disabled them and after about 10 reboots it appears to be using the built in drivers without issue. BrunoPE.
[09:03] <Herbs> mgj right click preferences?
[09:03] <gartral> how come the ubuntu repos are feeding sooo slowly?
[09:03] <marenostrum> casey, hmmm. You say jpeg. I don't know that.
[09:03] <casey> robin0800: it's a 5.5 by 8.5 jpeg lol. Not very likely. I have looked there though.
[09:03] <mgj> herb, right click what?
[09:04] <casey> marenostrum: jpeg is an image filetype.
[09:04] <Herbs> gatral Ive noticed the gb repos are really slow try the main repos they max out for me
[09:04] <casey> marenostrum: I'm basically saying I have a picture that is a custom size.
[09:04] <gartral> !jpeg
[09:04] <robin0800> casey, have you been able to do this before?
[09:04] <miles__> marenostrum, that was a nice idea, however it doesn't seem to work either (and the theme has all its default colors)
[09:04] <Herbs> mgj the workspace
[09:04] <casey> robin0800: On windows I was able to, so I know my printer has the capability.
[09:04] <BrunoPE> sdollins, wait
[09:04] <bgoldsmith> greetings channel, I cannot create a file in a directory that has group write permissions for a group I belong to :-(
[09:04] <gartral> Herbs: how do i switch?
[09:05] <sdollins> BrunoPE: Probably unrelated but after installing some recent updates, my screen stays dim no matter what now :/
[09:05] <Herbs> system > administration software sources select main repos from drop down thats the quickest way
[09:06] <marenostrum> casey, have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398506 Maybe not exactly the topic you want but it seems related and you can modify the solution to your needs.
[09:06] <sdollins> Okay uhhh I just noticed the battery/power thing in the indicator applets has disappeared :/
[09:06] <casey> marenostrum: let me give it a go. thanks for trying.
[09:07] <mgj> herbs, im sorry, i dont understand you. If i right click the actual workspace, i can change my wallpaper - thats about it. I want to modify the amount of workspaces i have and/or the ordering/layout of them
[09:07] <casey> marenostrum: I've actually already tried f-spot. Thanks for looking though
[09:07] <robin0800> casey, well I've just checked it is printer properties and it is the in the media size
[09:07] <casey> robin0800: let me take a look.
[09:07] <Herbs> mgj no the workspace section in th bottom right psnel
[09:07] <marenostrum> miles__, Are you on Natty? Was it a fresh install or do you have some older settings in your system?
[09:07] <mgj> Herbs, the bottom right panel does not exist in 11.04
[09:08] <bgoldsmith> drwxrwxr-x   6 root   webdev  4096 2011-05-03 10:59 srv    (these are the permissions for the /srv directory. I belong to the webdev group, but cannot create anything in the directory)
[09:08] <Herbs> mgj sorry Ive never used 11.04 or unity
[09:08] <mgj> ok, thanks anyway
[09:08] <gartral> [ot] 4:04.. time not found!
[09:08] <casey> robin0800: I have actually found this selection already. But have you found a way to actually put in values. All I can choose is custom and that is the extent of it :(.
[09:08] <marenostrum> casey, You're welcome. Those guys say that they do something to print borderless but I didn't do such a thing. Good luck.
[09:09] <Herbs> bgoldsmith its because root owns it
[09:09] <llutz> bgoldsmith: "id" as actual user lists webdev?
[09:09] <miles__> marenostrum, Natty, kept my /home partition from 10.04
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[09:09] <bgoldsmith> so if root owns a directory, the group permissions don't apply?
[09:10] <Herbs> bgoldsmith depens on the groups permissions
[09:10] <gartral> Herbs: even Main is feeding slowly, but faster than US
[09:10] <robin0800> casey mine has a whole selection with borderless in brackets beside them, but it does depend on the driver
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[09:10] <casey> robin0800: dang. Any other ideas up your sleeve?
[09:10] <gartral> !ops | hyu
[09:11] <robin0800> casey, what driver are you using?
[09:11] <marenostrum> miles__, Can home has something to do with those settings? Maybe. What if you add a new user. And choose that theme for that user. I'm saying this because I don't experience the problem with that theme.
[09:11] <casey> robin0800: not sure. But I have an HP printer so definitely and HP lol.
[09:11] <marenostrum> miles__, Mine is a fresh install.
[09:12] <gartral> jussi: thank you
[09:12] <DocPlatypus> situation: box has been running 9.10 until a couple days ago, when I decided to finally upgrade to 10.04 LTS. ever since then I have had sound switching over to "dummy output" for no reason I can figure out. where to begin troubleshooting this and/or how do I get it back to my soundcard when it does? kernel -- 2.6.32-31-generic, audio -- 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev
[09:12] <DocPlatypus> 02)
[09:12] <SuperLag> meganerd: you around?
[09:12] <bgoldsmith> llutz: id as actual user does not list webdev, but "groups" as actual user does.
[09:12] <llutz> bgoldsmith: logoff and relogin
[09:12] <tasslehoff> Any way to get gmail notifications from the indicator applet?
[09:12] <mgj> In 11.04, how do i change my workspace positioning? Default has a 2x2 grid, but i would much prefer a 1x4 row. As the bottom panel is removed in 11.04, i cannot find anywhere to change this
[09:12] <marenostrum> miles__, Can there be a hidden directory in /hme for personal preferences, from the past? Maybe deleting them?
[09:12] <robin0800> casey, have you got the best driver? hp should be well supported
[09:13] <gartral> DocPlatypus: I had the same problem with my intel audio chips.
[09:13] <casey> robin0800: how could I check?
[09:13] <robin0800> casey in printer properties
[09:13] <DocPlatypus> gartral: what'd you do to fix it or work around it?
[09:13] <Herbs> lutz reloging wont make a diff
[09:13] <Herbs> the dir is owened by root
[09:13] <casey> robin0800: ok so should it match my printer you're saying?
[09:13] <llutz> bgoldsmith: how did you add yourself to the webdev-group?
[09:14] <gartral> mgj: the fastes way would too be logout, click yor name, change the dropdown menu at the bottom too "Ubuntu Classic" log in and you have panels!
[09:14] <Herbs> this isnt desktop ubuntu
[09:14] <robin0800> casey yes and if you can't try hp's site
[09:14] <llutz> Herbs: the group has write-permissions, so what?
[09:14] <sdollins> I swear to $deity, I am going to scream. :( Everytime I reboot something else breaks lol..
[09:15] <Herbs> bgoldsmith if you want ownership log in as rott and chown user:user dir
[09:15] <quiescens> they don't want ownership
[09:15] <llutz> Herbs: read this again <bgoldsmith> drwxrwxr-x   6 root   webdev  4096 2011-05-03 10:59 srv
[09:15] <quiescens> they want the group to be able to write to it, which it should if they are properly in the group
[09:15] <Herbs> llutz and that would depend on the group permissions
[09:15] <casey> robin0800: I'm trying right now :).
[09:15] <mgj> gartral, heh, but i cannot do that when 11.10 comes out, i should probably learn how to do it with unity too =)
[09:16] <marenostrum> sdollins, What's broken lastly?
[09:16] <llutz> Herbs: do you need further explanation of that line? owner root, group webdev WITH write-perm
[09:16] <Herbs> llutz no but I think you do
[09:16] <casey> robin0800: I found a CUPS version which seems to be much better. However, I don't quite see the use of their "custom" sizes. Like in the other one.
[09:17] <sdollins> Well, wifi randomly decides to work, this time i have no borders around windows ( can't remember the technical name)
[09:17] <sdollins> Everything went to hell after I installed some updates earlier.
[09:17] <robin0800> casey, as long as you can select borderless does it matter?
[09:17] <SuperLag> Anyone here ever set up an Ubuntu box as a wireless access point?
[09:17] <bgoldsmith> llutz: thanks! logging off and logging back in solved the problem. I can now write to the directory
[09:18] <SuperLag> I know meganerd has, but he's not around - it seems.
[09:18] <llutz> bgoldsmith: you always have to relogin after changing your groups to make the change active
[09:18] <casey> robin0800: Well I don't have to many borderless options. And the major problem is it's an akward size: 5.5" x 8.5"
[09:18] <sdollins> Woo! It's all working now. - reboot.
[09:18] <marenostrum> sdollins, On maverick on on Natty? (beginning of the mess)
[09:18] <gartral> mgj: the fastes way would too be logout, click yor name, change the dropdown menu at the bottom too "Ubuntu Classic" log in and you have panels!
[09:19] <robin0800> casey, do hp have linux drivers for your printer?
[09:19] <mathews> any video converter to suggest to make mp4 for Nokia E71
[09:19] <mgj> gartral, thats cheating
[09:19] <pennnn> hi
[09:19] <sdollins> I was on maverick, I upgraded to natty a couple days ago it went to hell but started working right after a fight, and after some updates today it's even worse.
[09:19] <pennnn> wquestion
[09:19] <marenostrum> sdollins, ıs it OK now? After reboot?
[09:19] <casey> robin0800: I believe I did download an hp version when you pointed that out early. It comes from CUPS.
[09:19] <SuperLag> sdollins: good to know. I was thinking of upgrading my Maverick system to Natty. Now I'll wait. :)
[09:19] <pennnn> question
[09:20] <Liera> How do I clear the most recently used program list in unity?
[09:20] <Al_nz1> is there a way when doing a lot of copy n pasting to say, use F1-F10 to assign multiple clip boards which F1 - F10 paste data?
[09:20] <gartral> mgj: not really.. considering that Unity doesn't have any facilities too change the number/layout of workspaces
[09:20] <sdollins> Nope marenostrum
[09:20] <casey> robin0800: One thing that is driving me nuts is that f-spot shows major potential for working, however it always crashes when I try to print. Any ideas on that?
[09:20] <sdollins> I rebooted and wifi doesn't work lol
[09:20] <bgoldsmith> llutz: hmmm what are the data structures/files that get updated on reboot?
[09:20] <sdollins> It doesn't seem to matter if the proprietary broadcom drivers are enabled or not, it just randomly decides to work.
[09:20] <llutz> bgoldsmith: its the login shell reading the new environment
[09:20] <mgj> gartral, really ?! are you sure there is no such facility?
[09:21] <Herbs> sdollins reboot your router first before wasting time
[09:21] <robin0800> casey, in job options I've got scale to fit
[09:21] <sdollins> My router works fine.
[09:21] <sdollins> I've already tested it.
[09:21] <gartral> mgj: Unity is QUITE limited when compared too Gnome
[09:21] <marenostrum> sdollins, I have a report from my brother-in-law. he's on Maverick and says that wireless is broken. It interrupts randomly. I'll go and see. Your sitiation sounded similar.
[09:21] <pennnn> question
[09:21] <casey> robin0800: I see that as well. Unfortunately no luck with that so far.
[09:21] <pennnn> question
[09:21] <bgoldsmith> llutz: are the groups that a user belong to a part of the environment?
[09:21] <Herbs> by not connecting to the internet?
[09:21] <mgj> My god, that is beyond retarded. Remind me again why this change to unity was a great idea?
[09:21] <pennnn> i dont lilke unity, what alterantives are there
[09:21] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: with regards to group membership, its not rebooting as such, but your group membership is read when login first applies your user, and then every process from there on inherits those groups
[09:22] <sdollins> pennnn: KDE, Xfce, etc.
[09:22] <gartral> pennnn: logout, click name, dropdown box at the bottom can be changed too Ubuntu Classic. I use that
[09:22] <pennnn> sdollns: cant i go on usinggnome 2 !! in 11.10 ?
[09:22] <llutz> bgoldsmith: kind of, all those settings were read when you login.
[09:22] <sdollins> pennnn: they're removing the classic desktop in 11.10
[09:22] <mathews> pennnn: u can select ubuntu cliassic from login window
[09:22] <gartral> pennnn: read my instructions
[09:23] <Liera> Can anyone show me how to clear recently used program in the list in unity? like Clear Recently Items in gnome!
[09:23] <marenostrum> pennnn, And of course, there's "ubuntu Classical" interface which is mainly Gnome2 interface. Its already installed. You can chose it from login screen.
[09:23] <gartral> sdollins: they can remove from the pre-installed envirnment, but I will never give up my gnome!
[09:23] <llutz> bgoldsmith: tbh, i can't explain that in details off hand.
[09:23] <robin0800> gar
[09:24] <casey> robin0800: gar?
[09:24] <sdollins> gartral: I feel the same way. I don't like GNOME-Shell, Unity, KDE, or any other the others I've tried. At this point, I'm about ready to cough up cash for a macbook pro lol.
[09:24] <daxroc> Any one here using an nvidia quadro (nvs 295) or like with a dual monitor setup on 11.04 ?
[09:24] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:24] <jiltdil> which is better unity or gnome?
[09:24] <sdollins> marenostrum: any luck with that?
[09:24] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:24] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:24] <robin0800> gartral, unity 3d and unity 2d in 11.10
[09:24] <mathews> any video converter  to make mp4 for Nokia E71
[09:24] <Herbs> bgoldsmith lets just say the perms on that box are to lax
[09:24] <haoron> W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_universe_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[09:24] <haoron> , W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
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[09:24] <haoron> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:24] <FloodBot1> haoron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:24] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:24] <sdollins> I reboot over and over. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. ._.
[09:24] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:24] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:25] <bgoldsmith> llutz,quiescens: hmm ... so the groups command just reads the /etc/groups file.
[09:25] <Herbs> I wouldnt let your group have permission changes
[09:25] <marenostrum> sdollins, He doesn't know GNU/Linux well. I should pay a visit. I don't know what is broken.
[09:25] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:25] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:25] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:25] <bgoldsmith> herbs: so what would be a good setting for /srv/
[09:25] <llutz> bgoldsmith: yes but it won't check if those entries are active. "id" does
[09:25] <jiltdil> pennn:please stop repeating
[09:25] <robin0800> pennnn, yes
[09:25] <sdollins> I really regret upgrading to natty :/
[09:25] <Herbs> root:root
[09:25] <pennnn> can i install it
[09:25] <casey> robin0800: any other ideas?
[09:25] <sdollins> my SO talked me into it really.
[09:25] <pennnn> they REMOVE it
[09:26] <gartral> sdollins: why?
[09:26] <sdollins> pennnn: I imagine someone will provide a way to put gnome2 back.
[09:26] <sdollins> gartral: everything keeps breaking!
[09:26] <mathews> pennnn: dont worry, u can still install gnome by PPA
[09:26] <robin0800> casey, hp site linux support?
[09:26] <pennnn> cool
[09:26] <bgoldsmith> herbs: what if the webdev group wants to add a new website inside /srv (webdev = webadmin group)
[09:26] <casey> robin0800: Alright thanks for your help.
[09:26] <OerHeks> pennnn no they don't. logout, select your name, then language and GDM selection will appear
[09:26] <marenostrum> pennnn, Wer'll find a solution. :) We have time for 11.10. For now, we have Classic at hand. No problem. :)
[09:26] <gartral> sdollins: i haven't noticed any breakage, but then again, i did a clean install.
[09:26] <pennnn> ok
[09:26] <pennnn> thanks
[09:26] <duende> hi
[09:26] <Herbs> so what does webdav need to do?
[09:27] <sdollins> I don't have time to do a clean install really but it looks like I have no other choice.
[09:27] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: no, the groups command lists the groups that the process is in (which should be whatever it inherits from the shell or whatever you used to run it)
[09:27] <daxroc> I'm not impresed with natty, It's very primitive for a mainstream release
[09:27] <herol3oy> I just downloaded "ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso" to upgrade my ubuntu10.10 without any downloading, but when I mounted it and typed "gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade", it wanted to connect to internet and download all the packages again? how can I upgrade my ubuntu10.10 to 11.4 without any downloading?
[09:27] <duende> some have a problem in 11.04 with video and VIA ?? reboot X
[09:27] <gartral> granted, the Natty are SLOOOOOW right now 'cause all the upgrades
[09:27] <pennnn> but is better to the another desktop environment
[09:27] <pennnn> because ppa arent so good
[09:28] <sdollins> How did a bug like being unable to rearrange the windows in the windows list applet not get fixed?
[09:28] <pennnn> but is better to the another desktop environment
[09:28] <gartral> daxroc: why do you say that?
[09:28] <pennnn> because ppa are not so good
[09:28] <marenostrum> sdollins, Try to figure out the problem and bug report if you can do. But, clean install is the solution, of course. :)
[09:28] <sdollins> It was reported in early January according to launchpad.
[09:28] <bgoldsmith> quiescens:  the "id" command did not show the group change before re-login, but the "groups" command did
[09:28] <Herbs> sdollins because its a minor bug
[09:28] <herol3oy> no idea?
[09:28] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:28] <bgoldsmith> herbs: the webdev group needs to be able to create directories inside /srv
[09:28] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:28] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:28] <sdollins> Minor or not, i would consider it to be important functionality.
[09:29] <herol3oy> still no answer?
[09:29] <gartral> pennnn: that's a whole 6 months away.
[09:29] <marenostrum> sdollins, Which one? wireless thing? Can you supply me with the address?
[09:29] <pennnn> is it better to change
[09:29] <Herbs> so make owenership of w/srv webdav:webdav
[09:29] <sdollins> The issue with the window list.
[09:29] <xs3ns3> so what we use instead of unity, since my laptop says does not support unity?
[09:29] <pennnn> to kde
[09:29] <sdollins> I haven't found anything in relation to the wireless issue.
[09:29] <dijonyummy> i think i may try 11.04 in a month with gnome classic, then when 11.10 comes around not sure maybe go to kde, or other distro
[09:29] <herol3oy> I just downloaded "ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso" to upgrade my ubuntu10.10 without any downloading, but when I mounted it and typed "gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade", it wanted to connect to internet and download all the packages again? how can I upgrade my ubuntu10.10 to 11.4 without any downloading?
[09:29] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:29] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:29] <marenostrum> sdollins, I see.
[09:29] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:29] <Starminn> pennnn: That is a personal choice which you must make yourself. Try it out and see if you like it. Also, that is off-topic for here.
[09:29] <pennnn> is it better to change
[09:29] <sdollins> It didn't start until updates I installed today and I had just updated like 1 day ago I suspect it's not out there.
[09:29] <FloodBot1> pennnn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <pennnn> PPAs are incompatible
[09:30] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: its not *really* based relogging, you can relog and the process you are trying to fix could still have the wrong permissions
[09:30] <Starminn> pennnn: Pleas eonctinue this in #ubuntu-offtopic unless you have a genuine Ubuntu support question
[09:30] <pennnn> are they ?
[09:30] <pennnn> PPAs are incompatible
[09:30] <pennnn> are they ?
[09:30] <FloodBot1> pennnn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <Starminn> !enter | pennnn
[09:30] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: the groups list is applied per process, you could technically end up with one process using one list of group permissions, and another process using a different set
[09:30] <pennnn> PPAs are incompatible
[09:30] <daxroc> gartral: Lots of things are missing. decent monitor detection, simple customisation for little anoyances of unity. don't get me wrong it's great but lacks a complete feature set I expected
[09:31] <herol3oy> no answer  yet?
[09:31] <pennnn> herol3oy STOP IT
[09:31] <herol3oy> stop what?
[09:31] <sdollins> marenostrum: I can't remember if you said or not but is he using broadcom drivers?
[09:31] <pennnn> spamming around
[09:31] <Starminn> herol3oy: You're not doing anything wrong.
[09:31] <xs3ns3> this new release, personally i dont like, first got hang up after the install, was not able to boot (so i had to delete the old one......finally manage to install this natty versin just to find out its like a damm vista
[09:31] <sdollins> pennnn: you're doing the same thing so I wouldn't complain.
[09:31] <herol3oy> :O i'm not spaning
[09:31] <Starminn> pennnn: Stop what you're doing. Now.
[09:32] <xs3ns3> where can i take off that bloody bar
[09:32] <pennnn> starminn i report you now
[09:32] <marenostrum> pennnn, 1- Don't flood. 2- pps is ppa. No one says that PPAs will be compatible. Ask that PPA!s owner.
[09:32] <Starminn> pennnn: Go for it, buddy.
[09:32] <herol3oy> pennnn:   not to ask question you mean?
[09:32] <peteraz> i dont know if anyone else has the same problem - after upgrading to 11.04 on my netbook all i can see in GUI is the background and the coursor. If i go ctr alt f2 i can go to console but i do not know how to fix my GUI
[09:32] <pennnn> [10:31] <herol3oy> no answer  yet?
[09:32] <pennnn> !wait
[09:32] <pennnn> !ask
[09:32] <genewitch> herol3oy: put it on a usb drive and boot with it in
[09:32] <marenostrum> sdollins, Most probably. Yes. :)
[09:32] <xs3ns3> u ubuntu developters, want me to go back to windows or what
[09:32] <gartral> daxroc: those two examples are driver and Unity related. I notice the opasite, things worrk better in Natty, it's also faster. but to each they're own
[09:32] <sdollins> marenostrum: It appears after I upgraded to natty it stopped using the broadcom drivers but they stayed enabled.
[09:33] <ultrav1olet> I want to compile an application from sources and it requires curl devel library and includes, debian has two of them libcurl4-gnutls-dev and libcurl4-openssl-dev
[09:33] <jack123> i am backkkkkkkkkkkkk
[09:33] <ultrav1olet> which one I have to choose?
[09:33] <jack123> damn
[09:33] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:33] <marenostrum> sdollins, At first, I have had to install some 3rd party driver for him. I don't remember the name.
[09:33] <xs3ns3> whats up with that new bars, pointless and i cant customize that properly
[09:33] <pennnn> why cant get an answere ?
[09:33] <jack123> i am done with ubuntu
[09:33] <genewitch> xs3ns3: install gnome if you don't like the new desktop...
[09:33] <Starminn> !enter > pennnn
[09:33] <Starminn> !details > pennnn
[09:34] <Starminn> !patience > pennnn
[09:34] <genewitch> xs3ns3: it's not like windows where you're locked into a GUI
[09:34] <pennnn> !enter starmin
[09:34] <xs3ns3> think i just go back to ver 10
[09:34] <Starminn> pennnn: Read those. UInderstand the channel rules.
[09:34] <jack123> hey marenostrum
[09:34] <marenostrum> sdollins, good news for his problem. So maybe when I upgrade him there won't be such a problem.
[09:34] <Herbs> ultraviolet if your compiling it will be libcurl4-openssl-dev
[09:34] <sdollins> Actually... I just noticed, my wired network isn't freaking working either.
[09:34] <pennnn> why cant get an answere ?
[09:34] <marenostrum> jack123, Yesss.
[09:34] <xs3ns3> im locked now. cant configure the gui on this new version
[09:34] <Starminn> pennnn: You cannot get an answer because you are nto asking a question.
[09:34] <sdollins> I think I'm about to cry lol..
[09:34] <pennnn> MY QUESTION IS
[09:34] <marenostrum> jack123, How did you do??
[09:34] <pennnn> SHOULD i change to kde !!!!
[09:34] <xs3ns3> on this nathy version are u allowed to move ur gui? move the bars etc?
[09:34] <jack123> i am done with ubuntu its not working and it messed up my win boots are well
[09:34] <herol3oy> genewitch: you mean I should move the iso file to a USB flash memroy and then mount it?
[09:34] <pennnn> i asked 3 hours ago
[09:35] <jack123> as well*
[09:35] <Starminn> pennnn: Nobody can make thew decision for you. Have you tried it out?
[09:35] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, login to ubuntu classic if you wish to go back to gnome 2 desktop
[09:35] <peteraz> i got background only after upgrade please help
[09:35] <genewitch> herol3oy: on the ubuntu website if you click "get ubuntu" it says "use usb - show me how"
[09:35] <pennnn> Starminn: i dont like unity and gnome 3. and i wont get into trouble with any ppas in 11.10
[09:35] <llutz> pennnn: nobody can answer that. its like "should i go fishing?", your decision
[09:35] <daxroc> gartral: It's more than a driver problem, and shipping with experimental drivers. Is that a good situation to start in (nouvaeu). As for faster on a core i7 here and performance is a little slow. If I wanted more I would custom comple tho , I'll take ease of maintenence for one box over speed :)
[09:35] <xs3ns3> i think im in ubuntu classic since the laptop at start pointed me that cant run unity so im running on classic
[09:35] <maedox> pennnn: Log in with Ubuntu Classic as the session then....
[09:35] <gartral> !classic | xs3ns3
[09:35] <quiescens> don't go fishing, the weather's not good for it
[09:36] <marenostrum> jack123, Sorry to hear that. I wish I were near you. Isn't there someone near you who can help?
[09:36] <sjuxax> I am using natty server in a VM. I cahnged the MAC address from what it was installed with and now eth0 won't appear. How do I fix this? I've tried dpkg-reconfigure network to no win
[09:36] <sjuxax> lspci shows it as an Ethernet controller, but does not show in ifconfig
[09:36] <pennnn> maedox.: there is no classical in 11.10 !
[09:36] <Starminn> pennnn: 11.10 is still 6 months away.
[09:36] <maedox> pennnn: this is ubuntu not ubuntu+1
[09:36] <genewitch> xs3ns3: i think that's the netbook desktop
[09:36] <jack123> nope
[09:36] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, logout then log back in and double check that ubuntu classic is selected otherwise it will throw you into 2d unity as I am aware
[09:36] <genewitch> xs3ns3: at least, they looked the same to me
[09:36] <pennnn> yes but i have a work shop here and the workers
[09:36] <sdollins> I think maybe telling him they were removing it 11.10 was a bad idea xd
[09:36] <Starminn> maedox: #ubuntu_1 is invitation-only for now
[09:36] <sdollins> it in*
[09:36] <pennnn> i cant say there, OH today, stop gnome, now unity
[09:36] <xs3ns3> gonna check that....... thks
[09:37] <pennnn> it must be planned
[09:37] <pennnn> long time before
[09:37] <gartral> daxroc: true, but i'm on an Aton N455.. and Pinetrail IGP.. my drivers work out of the kernel!
[09:37] <pennnn> so that why i asked, if it a ppa is good or not, so if it is NOT got, i would change environment
[09:37] <pennnn> s
[09:37] <Starminn> pennnn: So start the switch now. You have 6 months. You're making a switch either way. You're either switching to Gnome3, KDE, or Unity. Choose one, and stick with it.
[09:37] <jack123> marenostrum how to remove ubuntu boot information from windows boot
[09:37] <herol3oy> genewitch: Actually I have got the iso files! I just want to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.4 without any downloding packages?
[09:38] <Herbs> sjuax you need to make sure the vm has the same mac
[09:38] <Technikfreak> hello is here someone from czech please pm me short thx (sorry for off topic)
[09:38] <herol3oy> genewitch: i just mounted the iso file and run this " gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[09:38] <gartral> herol3oy: that's not possible, even with the alternate install cd. you still need a network
[09:38] <marenostrum> jack123, Would you like me to help step by step on private IRC converstion. From Windows maybe. And wgat's messed up with your Windows installation?
[09:38] <pennnn> Starminn: i tested gnome 3 a long time, and i like it, but it isnt in ubuntu ppas, and the ppa seems buggy
[09:38] <maedox> pennnn: Adding the Gnome PPA shouldn't be a problem if that's what you're asking
[09:38] <jack123> sure
[09:38] <jack123> how to do that
[09:38]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[09:38] <herol3oy> genewitch: no anyother way?
[09:38] <pennnn> maedox: yes but i want gnome 2
[09:38] <Starminn> pennnn: That's because Canonical does not support Gnome3. All other distros do, though.
[09:39] <genewitch> herol3oy: unplug your internet then... then it can't download. or, put it on a USB drive like i said and boot from it, and run the normal upgrade that won't break everything
[09:39] <Starminn> pennnn: You could try Xubuntu. Very similar to Gnome 2
[09:39]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[09:39] <Psychobudgie> jack123 : if you wish to go back to single windows boot, boot from your windows cd and choose to boot into dos recovery and type fixmbr, that should do the trick
[09:39] <sdollins> I tried to use Xubuntu but missed some stuff :(
[09:39] <sdollins> Even Ambiance lol
[09:39] <vibhav>  pennnn you want to use gnome 2 in ubuntu 11.04?
[09:39] <genewitch> does ubuntu have an issue booting past the 1TB mark?
[09:39] <daxroc> Is unity not a bastadisation of gnome3 ?
[09:39] <pennnn> vibhav
[09:39] <vibhav>  pennnn you want to use gnome 2 in ubuntu 11.04
[09:39] <pennnn> i want use !! gnome 2 in 11.10
[09:39] <marenostrum> jack123, have a look here: http://expertester.wordpress.com/2008/07/27/how-to-remove-ubuntu-boot-loader-xp-and-vista/
[09:39] <xs3ns3> thanks for pointing me out to log out and relog on classic, helped me, was about to install 10 again...
[09:39] <Starminn> No, he's up in arms about how 11.10 won't have classic GNOME even when the Gnome devs themselves don't support it anymore.
[09:40] <vibhav>  pennnn yes?
[09:40] <Starminn> vibhav: ^
[09:40] <pennnn> yes vibhav
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, unity is a shell for gnome 2, gnome-shell is a shell for gnome 3
[09:40] <vibhav>  pennnn in the login session chose Ubuntu Classic where Ubuntu is written
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, no problem
[09:40] <daxroc> Psychobudgie: very gnome shell like tho
[09:40] <pennnn> vibhav 11.10 hasnt got it !!!!
[09:40] <xs3ns3> +karma hehe
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> xs3ns3, they don't exactly make it obvious
[09:40] <llutz> pennnn: /j +ubuntu+1        to discuss 11.10
[09:40] <marenostrum> jack123, This is better, it doesn't need Win CD: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180607
[09:40] <Starminn> vibhav: No, it's about 11.10 that he's freaking out about because 11.10 won't have "Classic Gnome"
[09:40] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, it's nothing like gnome-shell
[09:41] <syrinx_> llutz: hehe
[09:41] <pennnn> i cant believe it ANYBody says crap
[09:41] <pennnn> really
[09:41] <genewitch> llutz: +i
[09:41] <Starminn> llutz: It's invitation-only.
[09:41] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, I'm using gnome 3 and gnome-shell from the ppa here
[09:41] <pennnn> the one say i should go ubuntu+1 but its invite
[09:41] <bgoldsmith> quiescens,llutz: I just tried googling, trying to find out where the environment for a process is stored ... what data structures, what source do I need to look at?
[09:41] <Herbs> do people not know what LTS is?
[09:41] <pennnn> the one say something about 11.04
[09:41] <llutz> Starminn: its offtopic HERE
[09:41] <cryptodira> hi folks.... just upgraded to 10.10 ..... all went well... except, i am NOT seeing xscreensaver under system preferences.... synaptic says it is installed....how can it be accessed?   10.10 amd/64
[09:41] <pennnn> !lts | Herbs
[09:41] <Herbs> Ive been using ubuntu for about a week been a Linux user for longer
[09:42] <daxroc> Psychobudgie: my bad , been a while from when I tested last
[09:42] <zvacet> jack123: do http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p18.html#MbrFix.exe and after that you can remove ubuntu
[09:42] <vibhav> pennnn I am too angry
[09:42] <Starminn> llutz: Umm... I agree. Which is why I'm trying to explain to him that it's a long way away. HE's asking if he should switch to KDE. I told him 11.10 is still 6 months away anyway, but if he wants to switch to KDE he should try it.
[09:42] <vibhav> pennnn perhaps you could install it
[09:42] <genewitch> wqas 6.10 the last LTS before lucid?
[09:42] <Psychobudgie> daxroc, imo, and this is my opinion, unity isn't fit to lace gnome 3's rather lovely shoes
[09:42] <pennnn> vibhav: yes but if its possible, my question: is it safe ?
[09:42] <vibhav> pennnn might be
[09:43] <Herbs> kde sucks if you want to change desktop try xfce
[09:43] <pennnn> vibhav: because ppa are very incompatibl e
[09:43] <zvacet> genewitch: 8.04
[09:43] <genewitch> zounds.
[09:43] <genewitch> cloud out!
[09:43] <marenostrum> jack123, Grub (bootloder) problem can be solved. If I were you I'll give a try to repair it before uninstalling it. I can help if you like.
[09:44]  * Kasztan85 kasztan85
[09:44] <Kasztan85> dsf
[09:44] <llutz> bgoldsmith: "Linux login process" should give some first hints
[09:44] <pennnn> Starminn can i ask you something
[09:44] <pennnn> Starminn do you use gnome ?
[09:44] <marenostrum> jack123, All we need is you'll boot from live CD and we'll find a way to communicate with you while you are there.
[09:44] <marenostrum> Do you have a second machine?
[09:44] <Starminn> pennnn: I do use Gnome. I am on 10.10 because I do not wish to switch to 11.04. If I had a choice I would be using Gnome3 but it is not supported on 10.10 currently.
[09:44] <Herbs> bgolsmith it looks in /boot for the kernel image basically
[09:45] <marenostrum> jack123, Dou you have a 2nd machine near you?
[09:45] <pennnn> Starminn, okay last question why dont you want to use 11.04
[09:45] <jack123> nope i dont have
[09:46] <vibhav> pennnn I hope that doesnt happen
[09:46] <Starminn> pennnn: I will use it after about 3-4 weeks of its release. I want toallow some time for the bugs to be found and fixed in case the devs and beta testers missed any (which they probably did). Gnome3 can be run on 11.04, but it kills Unity (which is fine with me as I'm not a fan of it).
[09:46] <cryptodira> xscreensaver lives under preferences in 10.04...... it is NOT there in 10.10..... where did it get moved to?    10.10 amd/64
[09:46] <pennnn> vibhav: do you gnome usee too
[09:46] <Danielq> buenas noches
[09:46] <Danielq> o buenos dias
[09:46] <jack123> ok marenostrum
[09:47] <jack123> suggest me a good linux distro  . one that hopefully works lol
[09:47] <Danielq> disculpen  la molestia pero me podrian ayudar con un problemita que tengo.._
[09:47] <syrinx_> !es | Danielq
[09:47] <pennnn> vibhav: do you gnome usee too
[09:47] <Danielq> ok gracias
[09:47] <Herbs> jack123 if you cant get ubuntu to work forget Linux
[09:48] <syrinx_> ^
[09:48] <vibhav> pennnn I use gnome 3
[09:48] <jack123> lol but mandriva works like a charm
[09:48] <pennnn> ok
[09:48] <jack123> i am sure it a bug in ubuntu
[09:48] <marenostrum> jack123, You'll get mad, but its Ubuntu. And you may try, fedora.
[09:48] <Herbs> jack123 stick to what works for you then learn Linux more then decide
[09:48] <Starminn> vibhav: Gnome3 in 11.04, right?
[09:49] <jack123> :(
[09:49] <mithran> how do i register?
[09:49] <mithran> with my nick
[09:49] <mithran> ?
[09:49] <Herbs> if you cant switch from mandriva to ubuntu you need to learn
[09:49] <hateball> !register | mithran
[09:49] <syrinx_> the hateball returns
[09:49] <marenostrum> jack123, If I need to name another distrı I'll say Fedora.
[09:49] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: permissions are stored for each process individually, and not in the usual "environment" per se, if you plan to look deeper into this you can probably have a look at setgroups() and work your way back from there but going all the way back to where in the kernel each process's individual groups list is stored is probably beyond the scope of a channel like this
[09:49] <xs3ns3> linux mint its also a good n stable distro
[09:50] <jack123> how about suse.?
[09:50] <jack123> debain
[09:50] <pennnn> linux mint is shit
[09:50] <pennnn> !other
[09:50] <jack123> how is mandriva.?
[09:50] <Herbs> bgoldsmith told you you needed to look at the group permissions ages ago
[09:50] <syrinx_> !langauge | pennnn
[09:50] <MethedMan> anybody have experience using "Evolution" on Ubuntu with TOR?  i am getting DNS leaks and would like to try to plug the leaks.
[09:50] <DocPlatypus> PC has been running 9.10 until a couple days ago when I upgraded to 10.04 LTS. ever since then I have had sound switching over to "dummy output" for no reason I can figure out. where to begin troubleshooting this and/or how do I get it back to my soundcard when it does? kernel -- 2.6.32-31-generic, audio -- 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[09:50] <bgoldsmith> quiescens: thanks! I'm looking at the kernel sources
[09:51] <Herbs> nothing to do with the kernel
[09:51] <xs3ns3> found mint user frienly (gnome mint)
[09:51] <marenostrum> jack123, Dont mess up Grub bootloder more. If the CD at hand is not brıken, try to install with it again. or try to install lets say Fedora to that partition. It will most probably install Grub bootloder again and you'll have Fedora at hand and your Windows untouched.
[09:52] <bgoldsmith> Herbs: yes, thanks! the problem was solved. I was just trying to do some extra learning about how the users group info is stored in memory when he logs in.
[09:52] <maxb> Does anyone know how to make nautilus not launch on inserting a USB stick? (natty)
[09:52] <Herbs> grub is easy to reinstall this is the thing with new Linux users to scared to break anything
[09:52] <guschtel_> hi! i just installed ubuntu 10.10 in my toshiba sat. l505dhave been a series of problems ever since. first my wireless did not work and now video and sound are failing. plus the funcs of my laptop dont work. anybody knows what to do?. There
[09:52] <Herbs> ah ok bgoldsmith
[09:52] <jack123> ok  will go with fedora
[09:53] <syrinx_> fedora :(
[09:53] <DeathNote> Hey listen..
[09:53] <pennnn> so well
[09:53] <pennnn> i ask other round#
[09:53] <xs3ns3> guschtel im no tech, but have u checked ur drivers are updated after install?
[09:54] <pennnn> i dont like unity. i like gnome 3, gnome 2, kde xfce
[09:54] <pennnn> what do you recommend ?
[09:54] <MethedMan> anyone know how to send emails anonymously via evolution or any other linux mail program
[09:54] <pennnn> gnome2
[09:54] <jack123> methed why do you want to do that
[09:54] <jack123> dont tell him guys
[09:54] <Herbs> methedman you want to spam no email prog wil let you telnet will
[09:54] <pennnn> i dont like unity. i like gnome 3, gnome 2, kde xfce
[09:55] <pennnn> what do you recommend ?
[09:55] <DeathNote> Anything sister
[09:55] <MethedMan> herbs: i don't want to spam
[09:55] <sdollins> MethedMan: I imagine most modern mail program will allow you to use a proxy.
[09:55] <MethedMan> jack123: lets just say i am part of an investigation
[09:55] <sdollins> You probably won't find many proxies that allow sending mail.
[09:55] <jack123> or let just say you are a terrorist
[09:55] <DeathNote> Why?
[09:55] <pennnn> sdollins: recommend me to change to kde or gnome2 ?
[09:55] <xs3ns3> thats fun
[09:56] <llutz> jack123: a dumb terrorist...
[09:56] <DeathNote> ok ok
[09:56] <MethedMan> jack123: i can send through gmail anonymously
[09:56] <xs3ns3> tv = mass control
[09:56] <MethedMan> jack123: i am lazy and want to use "evolution" or some mail program
[09:56] <jack123> why would any 1 want to do that.?
[09:56] <Herbs> lol send through qmail ann
[09:56] <Herbs> anon
[09:56] <pennnn> sdollins: recommend me to change to kde or gnome2 ?
[09:57] <sdollins> pennnn: That's not really something you can recommend ._.
[09:57] <guschtel_> xs3ns3, yeah i have double checked and still...
[09:57] <syrinx_> pennnn: why don't you try them and see which one you like?
[09:57] <pennnn> i tried
[09:57] <DeathNote> But i am on 11.04
[09:57] <syrinx_> then why are you asking here
[09:57] <Starminn> pennnn: And which do you like?
[09:57] <pennnn> well
[09:57] <syrinx_> no one give a damn about what DE you use
[09:57] <DeathNote> ok sister i understand
[09:57] <MethedMan> llutz: most terrorist are pretty stupid eh, like the underwear bomber.
[09:57] <invernizzi> MethedMan, no, you cannot send emails anonymously throgh Gmail, unless you create a separate account. Maybe they look anonymous to you, but they are not. Disclamer: I work in computer security
[09:57] <Haegin> Hi, I upgraded to 11.04 yesterday and now when I log in my gtk theme doesn't work so I have to restart gnome-settings-daemon to fix this. Also my mouse stops working about 5-10 minutes after login.
[09:57] <pennnn> gnome 3 is really good usuable
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[09:58] <pennnn> but kde is faster, to find things and so
[09:58] <DeathNote> ok sister thanks
[09:58] <marenostrum> jack123, Do you have many critical unbackuped data on your Windows partition?
[09:58] <constl> kde is faster than gnome?
[09:58] <MethedMan> invernizzi: what if i send it through tor with namoroka?
[09:58] <Herbs> methedman spamming aint easy :)
[09:58] <jack123> yes definately
[09:58] <xs3ns3> guschtel lets see if theres any wise person around who can give u a better feed ^^
[09:58] <jack123> i dont want to mess my windows
[09:58] <MethedMan> invernizzi: also i am not so concerned if google knows where things are coming from.  i am more concerned with the immediate parties that i am in contact with that could possible blow my cover
[09:59] <marenostrum> jack123, I see.
[09:59] <pennnn> gnome 3 is really good usuable
[09:59] <pennnn> but kde is faster, to find things and so
[09:59] <jack123> i have adobe
[09:59] <sdollins> I'm about ready to switch to Windows :(
[09:59] <jack123> i have vega pro
[09:59] <Herbs> methedman then encrypt your messages
[09:59] <invernizzi> MethedMan, no, tor just protects your ip. The thing is, the email still carries meta information about the sender. the correct tool for the job is "mixmaster"
[09:59] <invernizzi> it's in the repos
[09:59] <xs3ns3> tor ?
[09:59] <sdollins> If something breaks then, I can just make Dell fix it :D!
[09:59] <xs3ns3> hmm
[10:00] <xs3ns3> u can use tor + encrypt?
[10:00] <pennnn> gnome 3 is really good usuable
[10:00] <pracrash> how to make bootable usb drive from ubuntu for windows 7
[10:00] <pennnn> but kde is faster, to find things and so
[10:00] <syrinx_> pennnn: stop spamming
[10:00] <MethedMan> invernizzI: downloading now. how do i use it
[10:00] <sdollins> marenostrum: It seems I've /fixed/ it or it's just cooperating for more than 1 reboot.
[10:00] <Herbs> theres a man for everything
[10:00] <invernizzi> MethedMan, mixmaster strips metadata from emails and forwards the email from server to server to delay it and make it untraceable
[10:00] <sdollins> As for how? I have no idea but it is apparently working.
[10:01] <Herbs> hes a spammer dont advise him
[10:01] <pracrash> does anyone know
[10:01] <MethedMan> herbs: not a spammer
[10:01] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. On my ubuntu 11.04 server, when i add a ppa, via add-apt-repository, apt-get doenst use it. Or, not fully anyways. As you can see here: https://gist.github.com/952345 I add the repository and update, but its not on the list over loaded repos. I did a strace that shows it actually does "see" the repo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602496/
[10:01] <marenostrum> sdollins, Nice to hear. :)
[10:01] <abhinav_singh> marenostrum i have installed Libre Office..its much better than openoffice
[10:01] <MethedMan> herbs: troll somewhere else please
[10:01] <sdollins> I bet I'm annoying the piss out of people with pidgin signing in and out xd
[10:01] <ChrisBuchholz> I have asked in #ubuntu-server. No answers. Can you guys help me?
[10:01] <invernizzi> MethedMan, just launch it, it's pretty self explanatory. keep in mind that the delay between sending and receipt can be of hours. the purpose is to avoid to leak even the time of sending
[10:01] <MethedMan> invernizzi: what servers should i connect it to
[10:01] <pennnn> Herbs troll somewhere else please
[10:01] <Starminn> sdollins: I haven't noticed. I'm using Pidgin.
[10:01] <pennnn> !troll | herbes
[10:02] <Herbs> ok methed whats your legitamate reasoning ?
[10:02] <MethedMan> invernizzi: i have 5 options in the install. not sure which one to choose
[10:02] <sdollins> Starminn: I keep rebooting so it's signing in and out.
[10:02] <invernizzi> MethedMan,  tell me which options are there
[10:02] <MethedMan> herbs: i do not answer to you, and did not appreciate your incorrect assessment
[10:03] <Starminn> sdollins: Ah. I guess I've kind of trained myself to "phase out" the sign-in/sign-out. There's an otion to have those nto show up but I kept talking ot myself then.
[10:03] <syrinx_> lol
[10:03] <MethedMan> invernizzi: no configuration, internet site, internet with smarthost, satellite system, local only
[10:03] <invernizzi> local
[10:03] <sdollins> I have you on my contact list? o:
[10:03] <Herbs> your a spammer unless you prove otherwise
[10:03] <syrinx_> Herbs: +1
[10:03] <Starminn> The next person who even so much as utters the word "troll" will be on my blacklist and I will be unhappy at you for the rest of my life.
[10:03] <pennnn> please
[10:03] <pennnn> help me
[10:04] <invernizzi> herbs: spammers use botnets to send emails, not remailers. Trust me, this is not the system to send spam. Again, I work exaclty on malware and spam
[10:04] <syrinx_> !please | pennnn
[10:04] <pennnn> i know i asked
[10:04] <xs3ns3> herbs, better prove hes a spammer otherwise hes not, ok?
[10:04] <pennnn> but i want kde
[10:04] <syrinx_> then use it
[10:04] <sdollins> pennnn: then install kubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <pennnn> i have to reinstall pc distroyed
[10:04] <sdollins> Then go download it and install it
[10:05] <Herbs> ok xs3ns3 I work for an web host and have to deal with them daily
[10:05] <sdollins> I can't tell if I just need to do a clean install or if the classic mode is buggy as hell.
[10:06] <sdollins> It's like everytime I login some applet is failing or the theme is all screwed up.
[10:06] <pennnn> sdollins: but i want gnome 2! but there are not any possilbilites are there ?
[10:06]  * sdollins sighs...
[10:06] <MethedMan> invernizzi: i sent you a private message with a website that i am involved with.
[10:06] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, Nice to hear that you like Libre Office.
[10:07] <invernizzi> MethedMan, seen
[10:07] <pennnn> sdollins: it is really the last question !!
[10:07] <pennnn> sdollins: but i want gnome 2! but there are not any possilbilites are there ?
[10:07] <Starminn> pennnn: Seeing as the fact that the Gnome developers are not developing Gnome2 any longer, it is not likely, no. Canonical will continue to mainain it for the use of Unity, but what they do  with it at this point is to their discretion.
[10:08]  * syrinx_ facepalms, i'm outta here
[10:08] <pennnn> ok thanks
[10:08] <Starminn> pennnn: Your question has been answered.
[10:08] <Starminn> pennnn: You're welcome.
[10:08] <Herbs> ok xs3ns3 either way its not ubuntu help he wants so is it not off topic?
[10:08] <Starminn> syrinx_: He's gone!!! He's really, really gone!! (After tlling him that exact same thing two OTHER times)
[10:09] <syrinx_> XD
[10:09] <syrinx_> almost quit irc forever
[10:09] <DASDAS> who
[10:09] <Starminn> Haha. Nobody can be rww like rww.
[10:09] <d-snake> hey guys. is it possible to "blacklist" application from the global menu? In my case I wan't  exclude Gimp from it.
[10:09]  * Starminn moves to #offtopic
[10:09] <tuxx-> rofl @ pennn
[10:09] <tuxx-> ;d
[10:09] <VanDyke> for sale: 2x 7900GTX with dangerden waterblocks. $50 ea.
[10:09] <Starminn> VanDyke: Don't do that.
[10:10] <syrinx_> lol
[10:10] <tuxx-> for sale: my dirty underwear, 1$ each.
[10:10] <VanDyke> k
[10:10] <iceroot> !ot
[10:10]  * sdollins bangs head repeatedly against desk.
[10:10] <Starminn> tuxx-: Buy two get the second half off?
[10:10] <VanDyke> there
[10:10] <tuxx-> sure Starminn
[10:11] <sdollins> I'm starting to really dislike Ubuntu. :(
[10:11] <VanDyke> sdollins, I disliked gnome3 and unity
[10:11] <Starminn> sdollins: Ubuntu of the community? Because I am now hating this channel very much.
[10:11] <tuxx-> VanDyke: just use awesomewm :-D
[10:11] <Starminn> s/of/or
[10:11] <VanDyke> staying with 10.10
[10:11] <sdollins> VanDyke: Good idea as I'm pretty sure 11.04's classic mode is buggy (possibly on purpose ._.)
[10:12] <Dark_Star1> Hi. is there anyone here that uses virtualbox in ubuntu and has managed to configure the networking for the guest OS?? I can't get anything from loopback ping
[10:12] <Starminn> sdollins: I am waiting a month before upgrading, at which point I'll use Gnome3
[10:12] <Herbs> ubuntu is all good because you decide to use the none lts thats your issue
[10:13] <Chipzzz> Dark_Star1: Did u try a bridged connection?
[10:13] <Starminn> Herbs: No one said anything negative about Ubuntu.
[10:13] <sdollins> Everytime I reboot 1 of 2 things happens: Wifi doesn't work or applets fail like crazy
 I'm starting to really dislike Ubuntu. :(
[10:14] <sdollins> what about it?
[10:14] <sdollins> Not using LTS has nothing to do with that.
[10:14] <siddhantchd> need help guys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747052
[10:14] <Herbs> why does it not you expect something to work perfect and its not lts
[10:14] <sdollins> I don't think expecting a normal release to be stable is absurd.
[10:15] <Herbs> Im a slackware user who runs red hat/fedora/centOs based servers
[10:15] <Starminn> Herbs: Oh, I'm sorry. I thought he meant the trolls in this channel.
[10:15] <Starminn> Herbs: You're right. I'm wrong. :)
[10:17] <marenostrum> sdollins, I'm with you. No one says that LTS is more stable than a non-LTS release. LTS is just long term. For those server things; not to have need to install, upgrade every 6 months. Bug is bug. Fault is fault. No matter in LTS or non-LTS.
[10:17] <Herbs> fair enough guys looks like I got ubuntu wrong!
[10:17] <maheanuu> I would like to know what most of you might consider the top five photo editors to use on Ubuntu
[10:18] <marenostrum> Herbs, Why do you say so?
[10:18] <d-snake> Push:  Is it possible to "blacklist" an application from the global menu? In my case I want to exclude Gimp from it.
[10:18] <Herbs> because the admin said
[10:19] <maheanuu> Me too!
[10:19] <zvacet> marenostrum: I agree with you about bugs,but in lts releases focus is on stability
[10:19] <sdollins> well marenostrum I was wrong. Wifi is still broken. I've given on up on fixing it. It's freaking 4:20 AM :/
[10:19] <Chipzzz> d-snake: you can deselect it in the menu editor & it won't show up in the menus
[10:19] <tic^> !wifi | sdollins
[10:19] <tbf> natty's epiphany is incredibly crashy :-(
[10:20] <thegoodcushion> I have a KWorld TV tuner that works perfectly in Windows 7.  I am running Ubuntu 10.04 on the exact same computer (on the metal, not virtualized).  Can I use my tuner?  How do I even tell if it's recognized?  It's connected to a USB port
[10:20] <sdollins> tic^: really not neded.
[10:20] <sdollins> needed*
[10:20] <d-snake>  is it possible to "blacklist" application from the global menu? In my case I wan't exclude Gimp
[10:20] <Herbs> ! opression | ubottu
[10:20] <marenostrum> sdollins, I see. fresh install!
[10:20] <maheanuu> I have been using Gimp for years and find that I can do pretty much everything that is needed, or at least accdording to my needs.
[10:21] <sdollins> I'm actually not sure if I will install Ubuntu.
[10:21] <siddhantchd> help guys
[10:21] <genupulas> siddhantchd:  ask
[10:21] <d-snake> Chipzzz: I don't mean the Unity Menu. I meant the global menu in the panel. I don't want to have main menu of gimp (just gimp) in the panel
[10:21] <genupulas> siddhantchd:  i will try my best
[10:22] <siddhantchd> genupulas http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747052
[10:22] <snikker> my usb 3.0 port doesn't work in ubuntu, how can i fix this?
[10:22] <VanDyke> thegoodcushion, lsusb will tell if it's connected
[10:22] <marenostrum> maheanuu, I, too, use just GIMP. I do many things with it. But I'm not a professinal and I even don't know 90 % of it maybe. But I can do pretty much things witjh it. Without GIMP life would be really hard for me.
[10:23] <thegoodcushion> VanDyke: I have Novatek and Afatech.  Do they sound like TV tuners?  There's also a mouse, which I recognize
[10:23] <tic^> sdollins: I'm running 10.04 LTS 64bit on a dell 64bit desktop and EVERYTHING works, including sound and youtube. A stable setup can be done.
[10:23] <marenostrum> sdollins, What's in your mind? Alternative?
[10:23] <Herbs> marenostrum you mean gimp isnt in the repos? You can still install it you know?
[10:23] <genupulas> siddhantchd:  oops i am failed
[10:23] <VanDyke> thegoodcushion, no idea
[10:23] <thegoodcushion> VanDyke: google seems to indicate that Afatech is the chipset in the tuner
[10:23] <sdollins> You see, I absolutely hate Unity and find it to be horridly unproductive. I don't really want to have to install another desktop environment so switching is inevitable for me.
[10:23] <siddhantchd> genupulas hmm
[10:24] <thegoodcushion> sdollins: I hear you bro
[10:24] <siddhantchd> anyone you knw who can help
[10:24] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: There's MythBuntu that's made for something to do with TV. Can't recall what exactly. May be worth looking into.
[10:24] <thegoodcushion> ok
[10:24] <sdollins> At the moment, I'm about ready to switch to Windows.
[10:24] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Not necessarily installing the whole distro -- but maybe downloading what packages it has by default.
[10:24] <VanDyke> sdollins, stop trolling :P
[10:24] <sdollins> I'm not :(
[10:24] <zvacet> sdollins:  then you can try fedora with gnome3
[10:24] <marenostrum> Herbs, No I didn't say that GIMP isn't in repos. Its there. I have already installed. He asked about the favourite photo editors. That was my answer.
[10:25] <VanDyke> sdollins, install ubuntu 10.10 and be done with it. Works awesome
[10:25] <envygeeks> Starminn: Mythbuntu is a "DVR" build.  It's mediacentre for Linux, but now days you can just install opensource boxee on any of your Linux installs
[10:25] <tuxx-> sdollins: why not just use the LTS? :P
[10:25] <jccb> nice tomeet you guys  bye
[10:25] <fray_> hi
[10:25] <sdollins> zvacet: I don't really like Gnome3 either.
[10:25] <Herbs> Im going now but just to free you ubuntu users sudo passwd root and set new password
[10:25] <sdollins> tuxx-: because that's just a temporary fix.
[10:25] <Starminn> Herbs: Don't.
[10:25] <sdollins> Xfce is missing some stuff I want. KDE is well not for me.
[10:25] <Herbs> and then remove that rediculous all in sudo whats the diff lol
[10:26] <Haegin> sdollins: if you don't like unity and don't want to switch you seem to be at an impasse
[10:26] <sdollins> I'm happy with gnome2 :(
[10:26] <ciphergoth> Just switched to Unity - how do I configure the number and layout of workspaces?
[10:26] <Haegin> Herbs: that's a stupid idea. just leave.
[10:26] <Herbs> lol
[10:26] <tuxx-> well, i've had it with you little girls bitching about window managers. ktnx :-P
[10:26] <zvacet> sdollins:  did you tried e17 it may be not perfect but eye candy and customizable
[10:27] <Starminn> sdollins: Well there's nothing you can do, man. IF you like Gnome2, Xfce is the closest ot tht you'll get. Really, Gnome2 is essentially deprecated, and will totally be deprecate soon.
[10:27] <sdollins> Never even heard of it, is it new?
[10:27] <sdollins> Xfce is okay I guess.
[10:27] <d-snake> ciphergoth: just right click in the worspace switcher in the bottom panel. there you can configure the rows and cols
[10:27] <VanDyke> just install Windows ME. You'll be happy, I promise.
[10:27] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: give over, it's not deprecated
[10:27] <thegoodcushion> it's the most popular Linux GUI
[10:27] <sdollins> I installed xubuntu on an old laptop and i didn't find it horrible but it's missing stuff :(
[10:28] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Except that Gnome does not support it anymore. Cacnonical does.
[10:28] <ciphergoth> d-snake - bottom panel? I can't see one - only a left hand panel and a top panel.  Right clicking on the workspace switcher in the left hand panel does nothing.
[10:28] <marenostrum> sdollins, If to be frank, I'm not a fan of Unity as well. I don't have a netbook and I still don't see the point why I should use it on a desktop. But I trust ubuntu leading team and I'll seriously try it and try to see what's in it for me. We know Gnome 2. And we'll see Gnome 3 as well. For now, Ubuntu Natty's two choice is OK for me. If not Unity, there's classical choice.
[10:28] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: If I understand correctly, anyway.
[10:28] <zvacet> sdollins:  no it's not new you can find distros using it
[10:28] <sdollins> I work in IT and at the end of the day I don't want to fight with my computers :(
[10:28] <DocPlatypus> okay
[10:28] <kaie> I have an internal disk, and an external backup disk (cloned with dd). I must restore one lvm logical volume. When having both disks connected, lvm says, it detects a duplicate, only allows one of them to be active. Is there a trick to rename one of them, so I can have both volume groups / logical volumes active at the same time?
[10:28] <Starminn> marenostrum: You can also use Gnome3
[10:28] <Herbs> gnome ftw
[10:29] <thegoodcushion> is it in a PPA or something?
[10:29] <Starminn> Herbs: +1
[10:29] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Is what in a PPA?
[10:29] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: GNOME 3
[10:29] <kaie> (for some reason, after a machine went to sleep yesterday, when it woke up again, the contents of the / partition were corrupted afterwards, just fyi)
[10:29] <thegoodcushion> for Ubuntu 10.04 or 11.04
[10:29] <DocPlatypus> my last ditch attempt to get reliable sound on here will be to upgrade to 10.10. I'm getting a new computer from system76 later this month so I'm not that worried about sound or lack thereof... but I do want to know how hard it is to switch to GNOME 3 over this "Unity" thing.
[10:29] <marenostrum> Starminn, You mean from ppa. First I want to experience Unity. Then, I'll give it a try.
[10:29] <sdollins> DocPlatypus: I figure there will be "Gubuntu".
[10:30] <thegoodcushion> DocPlatypus: honestly, my next distro will be debian or Fedora
[10:30] <Herbs> kaie did you try an fsck
[10:30] <DocPlatypus> I switched to Ubuntu *from* Debian.
[10:30] <Starminn> marenostrum: Well, Gnome3 breaks Unity so you can't exactly "revert"
[10:30] <thegoodcushion> sdollins: and yes, I'm sure the GNOME fanboys will come up with a GNOME Ubuntu
[10:30] <VanDyke> sdollins, no, it's gonna be Clabuntu
[10:30] <sdollins> Fedora 15 will be sporting GNOME3 so that's an option.
[10:30] <kaie> Herbs, yes. a large initial portion of the disk now contains garbage data. no repair possible. I need to restore my backup
[10:30] <DocPlatypus> and I honestly don't give a damn if I break Unity.
[10:30] <Starminn> marenostrum: But yeah, in 11.04 it's available in a PPA. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/gnome-3-released-to-be-available-for-ubuntu-11-04-via-ppa/ You can try it on a LiveCD from the Fedora 15 Alpha or something sfrom the folks at SUSE
[10:30] <VanDyke> whoever came up with Unity was on heavy crack
[10:30] <marenostrum> Starminn, And I'm not sure Gnome3 from ppa will give a good result with Natty, especialy for a production machine as I use. Maybe I need an experimantal machine.
[10:31] <Starminn> DocPlatypus: I agree. Dirst thing I'll do. ;)
[10:31] <VanDyke> marenostrum, works fine
[10:31] <thegoodcushion> Since installing 10.04 I've been pleasantly surprised at the lack of daily updates
[10:31] <ojii> Is there a way to replace the 'view photos' shortcut in the launcher with something else?
[10:31] <faLUCE> I created a shared directory with swat. I created it by accessing swat http server with root user (if I access with myuser I cannot create a share, therefore I used root). Now: I can make the shared resource accessible to all, without a password. How can I configure it in order to be accessible only for the users which have permissions to the directory, so that remote login is required?
[10:31] <frayweb> #ubuntu-it
[10:31] <ciphergoth> d-snake or anyone else - what do you see when you right click on the workspace switcher?  What's it called? If I know that maybe I can search fo rit
[10:31] <DocPlatypus> well
[10:31] <sdollins> Out of curiosity, was there any user input on whether Unity was wanted?
[10:31] <DocPlatypus> I kept 9.10 until I needed a newer NtEd.
[10:32] <DocPlatypus> 9.10 has 1.5.x, 10.04 LTS has 1.9.x
[10:32] <sdollins> I don't keep up with things. I just use what works and it's been Ubuntu [up until now].
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> nted?
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> what's that
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> sdollins: I think the choice of GUI can change your feel for the system.  I hate KDE, love GNOME
[10:32] <Starminn> sdollins: The general consensus seemed to be no, so I guess not. But hey, they're the largest Linux distro around now. They can do whatevere they want.
[10:32] <selig5> ciphergoth: I don't think you can change the number of work spaces on 11.04.
[10:33] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: they won't be the largest distro if people hate Unity
[10:33] <Starminn> sdollins: But that's not a topic for discussion here.
[10:33] <ciphergoth> selig5: I refuse to believe that the Unity team are that stupid
[10:33] <marenostrum> Starminn, I have very bad feelings for SUSE because of some non-technical reasons. I may try from Feddora live. Or I may install from ppa on Natty these days and then make a fresh Natty install again before I set up everything on Natty.
[10:33] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Exactly. Currently they are. Only time will tell if it's continued.
[10:33] <d-snake> ciphergoth: You use Natty with Unity? Then open a terminal > type in
[10:33] <d-snake> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:33] <d-snake> This will install a program to configure it. After this you search in the application menu for "compiz". There you will see the new program. Click on "General options" > switch to the last tab "Desktop size".
[10:33] <tic^> sdollins: 10.04 works very well. Install on a fesh clean drive, setup what you want and then STOP upgrading. It will remain stable that way.
[10:33] <FloodBot1> d-snake: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <thegoodcushion> Starminn: I remember when Red Hat was the most popular.  Then they went commercial...
[10:33] <kaie> how can I open a backup lvm volume group at the same time as the original one?
[10:34] <sdollins> Well 10.10 worked fine :P
[10:34] <Starminn> thegoodcushion: Very true.
[10:34] <ciphergoth> d-snake - that's it! Thanks!
[10:34] <envygeeks> !no
[10:34] <Starminn> marenostrum: Well, I don't know Fedora very well,but Fedora with Gnome3 LiveCD was quite nice.  http://www.gnome3.org/
[10:34] <sdollins> I suppose I shall backup my data and reinstall 11.04.
[10:34] <sdollins> If that fails, I will rage and likely install Windows.
[10:35] <sdollins> Now... to find a freaking DVD.
[10:35] <d-snake> ciphergoth: No problem :-)
[10:35] <envygeeks> !gb
[10:35] <Starminn> sdollins: Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE... Plus, there's Ubuntu with Gnome2, Ubuntu with Gnome3, Ubuntu with KDE, Ubuntu with Unity, not to mention AwesomeWM, e17...
[10:35] <Starminn> sdollins: Ah yes, and Linux Mint, ElementaryOS...
[10:35] <marenostrum> Starminn, Nowadays to try Gnome3 the best way seems to be Fedora -from live CD or install.
[10:35] <ciphergoth> d-snake: had got as far as looking through compiz config but didn't think to try "General Options".  Thanks agani!
[10:35] <zvacet> sdollins: so keep using it  :)
[10:36] <ciphergoth> really should be configurable through right click - there's a bug for it http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/26889/
[10:36] <bear_> hi
[10:36] <marenostrum> Starminn, But I'll just try. My main OS is Ubuntu. ubuntu Natty.
[10:37] <d-snake> ciphergoth: in the old ubuntu (or Ubuntu Classic) you can do it as I described at first
[10:37] <bik> join/ #ubuntu-it
[10:37] <thegoodcushion> Why are you posting foreign language channels here?
[10:37] <marenostrum> Starminn, Trying is something else but I made my mind that Natty Narwhal is OK for me for the next 6 months.
[10:37] <AG_Scott> Backing up my home directory should keep just about everything I need yes?
[10:37] <Starminn> marenostrum: I'd try it from a LiveCD. Again, I hear that there isn't really a "reversal process" so just keepin mind that you've been warned. I've not tried it myself so it could be easy, I don't know. I could be over-reacting. Just be aware. :)
[10:37] <adminmatt> *nix
[10:37] <Starminn> marenostrum: Alright.
[10:37] <AG_Scott> Eh it'll work.
[10:37] <d-snake> ciphergoth: Unity is not complete at the moment. It is very new software
[10:38] <ciphergoth> d-snake: yeah, that's what I was used to.
[10:38] <adminmatt> irc.whatnet.org
[10:38] <ciphergoth> d-snake: I take it the move to Unity this early is to get a lot of developer eyes on it then?
[10:38] <ciphergoth> Am not too unhappy yet, will stick with it for a bit longer
[10:39] <marenostrum> Starminn, I noted the reversal process issue. Natty instal is very new now. I may try PPAs Gnome3 today and tomorrow and then make a fresh Natty install. :)
[10:39] <MethedMan> what's the difference between mutt and mixmaster.  FYI only my 2nd week on IRC
[10:40] <marenostrum> Starminn, I don't advice anybody to try Gnome 3 from PPA on a production machine. That will be a Russian roulette. :)
[10:40] <Opium56> hey i got a question if anyone can help me figure it out
[10:40] <MethedMan> is there something like mutt and mixmaster for emacs?
[10:40] <AG_Scott> Yikes. My home directory is 23GB lol...
[10:40] <AG_Scott> I don't even keep files there :/
[10:40] <d-snake> ciphergoth: Well, I think Unity is not perfect in the moment, but I'm sure it becomes much better in next months.
[10:40] <envygeeks> marenostrum: the GNOME3 PPA is quite stable IMO, never had any problems with it yet, not major at least.
[10:40] <zvacet> !ask| Opium56
[10:41] <snikker> xorg.conf was removed in natty? i must increase dpi with a custum value...
[10:41] <jnlsnl_> Hello guys! I'm having a problem, i have a cifs mount line in my fstab that mounts a drive at work, but when i'm not at work and can't access the drive i get errors on boot :(
[10:42] <AdvoWork> anyone know the fix for firefox sticking to US letter for printing in ubuntu? ive changed etc/papersize, ive set the about:config to use A4, but still,it sticks to US letter and it greys out on print options..
[10:42] <ASEDDDD> gnome 3 or kde
[10:42] <ASEDDDD> what is better
[10:42] <d-snake> snikker: It was removed since Karmic, I think ;-). But you can create one
[10:42] <thegoodcushion> ASEDDDD: depends on personal preference
[10:42] <Opium56> Im havig problems with the new ubuntu release, im on a laptop and upon installation the screen goes completely blank, upon login or welcome screen its still blank. What is the problem?
[10:42] <marenostrum> envygeeks, Nice for ppa but I won't install it on an established machine with no plan to fresh install.:)
[10:42] <ASEDDDD> thegoodcushion what do you think ? I LIKE ! gnome 2
[10:42] <X-Rob> I'd like to dsiable the super-high-resolution text mode console. I'm assuming by stopping linux using the frame buffer. There doesnt' seem to be a way to do this. Should I give up and go back to fedora?
[10:43] <jussi> !best | ASEDDDD
[10:43] <snikker> d-snake: ah ok... but why is was removed?
[10:43] <thegoodcushion> ASEDDDD: I like GNOME 2 as well.  I'll prefer GNOME 3 when it's ready for prime time
[10:43] <lifeofguenter> hi all
[10:43] <d-snake> Opium56: But you see then the login screen? Whats your grafic card?
[10:43] <lifeofguenter> ati-radeon does not work anymore since latest update
[10:43] <marenostrum> lifeofguenter, Hello!
[10:44] <lifeofguenter> external vga is all gibberisch
[10:44] <siddhantchd> help please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1747052
[10:45] <d-snake> snikker: Cause it will configure automaticly by ubuntu. For indiviual settings you can create one
[10:45] <Opium56> theres nothing on my screen even after reboot. im on an acer aspire 5736z with an intel GMA 4500MHD ,easy put its an intel onboard graphics card
[10:45] <AG_Scott> Anyone know what folder pidgin account data is stored in?
[10:45] <RXShorty> Hello all, I have a question about Ubuntu server 10.04 I am logged in and it sais there are some updates
[10:45] <snikker> d-snake: ok, thank you
[10:46] <RXShorty> but running apt-get update / upgrade
[10:46] <RXShorty> doesn't update anything
[10:46] <AG_Scott> Could they be "held back" kernel updates RXShorty?
[10:47] <vega> RXShorty: i have the same on 10.04 desktop, says there are upgrades on login when there really aren't any
[10:47] <RXShorty> Could be how can I update these?
[10:47] <RXShorty> Ah
[10:47] <RXShorty> is that the issue
[10:47] <RXShorty> I already ran dist-upgrade
[10:47] <vega> RXShorty: it appeared sometime 1-2 weeks ago, now they are stuck there even though upgrades come and go
[10:48] <vega> RXShorty: actually seems it somehow is duplicated now: http://pastebin.com/FZQ1NVrA
[10:49] <miked> Can gnome still be installed in 11.04
[10:49] <Opium56> theres nothing on my screen even after reboot. im on an acer aspire 5736z with an intel GMA 4500MHD ,easy put its an intel onboard graphics card
[10:49] <hnsz> how can I chenge the brightness of my laptops lcd on the commandline?
[10:49] <zvacet> RXShorty: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:49] <ciphergoth> miked: yes
[10:49] <ciphergoth> just select "Ubuntu Classic" from the menu at the bottom before you log in
[10:49] <miked> From the mini image?
[10:49] <miked> oh
[10:49] <novice> how do i search for available wireless networks available in ubuntu 10.10
[10:50] <vega> novice: they should be listed when you click on the network icon
[10:50] <chen> hi
[10:50] <RXShorty> zvacet: I already ran dist-upgrade
[10:50] <jubei> hello. I acidentally deleted boost from my system and now compiz cannot load the problem is that as a result gnome/unity etc with effects cannot load and I'm in a bit of a bind I've re-installed the required libraries but compiz still doesn't load any tips would be appreciated http://pastebin.com/Q2XQdYLY
[10:51] <Opium56> ubuntu 11.04 screen problem
[10:51] <jubei> (sry for missing punctuation )
[10:51] <novice> vega: somehow they are not.i need to sort of fprce ubuntu to search
[10:51] <marenostrum> AG_Scott, Can it be /home/.purple
[10:51] <AG_Scott> Yeah it is.
[10:51] <AG_Scott> I clearly shouldn't be awake at 5 AM
[10:51] <dabblego> what software can I use to restrict children's access?
[10:52] <AG_Scott> I set there and seen "accounts.xml" and still wondered where it was
[10:52] <AG_Scott> sit*
[10:52] <marenostrum> AG_Scott, :)
[10:52] <AG_Scott> dabblego: I didn't really find any good software like steadygate that microsoft offered.
[10:52] <AG_Scott> There's an app that lets you lock panels.
[10:52] <dabblego> there was one I looked at a year ago and it looked excellent, but I forget the name and google won't help
[10:52] <vega> novice: iwlist scan or something like that on the command line at least
[10:53] <AG_Scott> You can use dansguardian for content filtering but opendns parental control might be more worthwhile.
[10:53] <AG_Scott> and you can restrict the users access via normal methods.
[10:53] <AG_Scott> Drule: hey buddy :D
[10:53] <dabblego> that's the one
[10:53] <be3le3> I just installed backtrack on a virtualbox vm and I went to install the guest additions for linux it installed fine but when i goto reboot it shows me it loads the guest additions but I can't copy n past from host or even full screen
[10:54] <be3le3> any clue to why?
[10:54] <novice> vega: Thanks
[10:54] <zvacet> vega:  it doesn't duplicate you can update 1 package or upgrade to maverick it is not thte same
[10:54] <AG_Scott> dabblego: I looked for hours for a good "all in one" app but there really isn't much :(
[10:54] <dabblego> bummer
[10:55] <ASEDDDD> hi
[10:55] <AG_Scott> hello
[10:55] <be3le3> I just installed backtrack on a virtualbox vm and I went to install the guest additions for linux it installed fine but when i goto reboot it shows me it loads the guest additions but I can't copy n past from host or even full screen
[10:55] <AG_Scott> yeah i was bummed out too.
[10:55] <vega> zvacet: nope, the 23 packages to be updated message is not related to maverick imho
[10:56] <vega> that is an old message that has been sticking there for a while
[10:56] <be3le3> i could really use the help with this its a bit annoying
[10:56] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[10:57] <gogoboy> 安安1
[10:59] <Laurenceb_> hi, im trying to print in landscape, but the document is always printed in portrait
[10:59] <Laurenceb_> can anyone suggest what could be causing this?
[10:59] <zvacet> vega:  you are right but what is happened if you try to update those packages
[11:00] <linux9211> hi everyone
[11:01] <linux9211> it may be off topic but worth watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpBPVkpmoeg&feature=player_embedded
[11:04] <vega> zvacet: 1 package got upgraded and after that the 23/18 package message still sticks
[11:05] <lifeofguenter> nobody else having problems with external vga on ubuntu natty?
[11:05] <lifeofguenter> with latest updates?
[11:06] <t0rakka> After upgrading to 11.04 (64-bit) the samba crashes randomly when writing to fileshares (cannot ssh to the machine, desktop freezes, machine doesn't respond to ping's ..) is this common or just me?
[11:06] <AG_Scott> I've had issues but not like that
[11:06] <t0rakka> should I just reinstall from scratch and re-configure everything? =P
[11:07] <t0rakka> that helped last time (10.10), seems the upgrades consistently fail for me (why upgrade if everything works.. i should stop doing that..)
[11:07] <t0rakka> or, should I switch to NFS? ;---o
[11:08] <AG_Scott> I'm reinstalling right now :P
[11:08] <outy> hi guys
[11:08] <t0rakka> could the smb.conf be a problem? I retained the old one.. when I do /etc/init.d/samba restart it complains about settings that the "new" samba daemon doesn't understand!?
[11:08] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy, I'm trying Unity and I wonder what's the desktop search engine it's supposed to use and how to configure it to find my interesting files. Any help or pointers?
[11:09] <Zahrada> I've had some issues while installing natty 64bit.
[11:09] <t0rakka> AG: I probably go that way, too
[11:09] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[11:09] <outy> i need some help getting my ubuntu install to boot
[11:10] <Zahrada> When the installation process comes about to install GRUB, it fails.
[11:10] <Zahrada> It simply states that it cannot install it.
[11:10] <[4-tea-2]> Zahrada: error message?
[11:10] <outy> i recently installed narwhal on my laptop and i had to use acpi workaround mode to get it to install
[11:10] <outy> and now it has finished installing it wont boot
[11:10] <[4-tea-2]> Zahrada: there are alternatives to grub, perhaps try lilo instead?
[11:10] <Zahrada> I must add that I tried installing it on a RAID 0
[11:11] <Zahrada> I switched back to 10.10 [4-tea-2]
[11:11] <bullgard4> outy: What happens if you press Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[11:11] <outy> i dont know
[11:11] <Zahrada> and then upgraded that one to 11.04.
[11:11] <outy> what is that supposed to do ?
[11:11] <outy> i havent tried it
[11:11] <[4-tea-2]> Zahrada: or you could try a manual installation, giving grub a hand... as in grub-install --recheck /dev/my/weird/device/name
[11:12] <Noble> Is possible to get some kind of expose in a webbrowse?
[11:12] <bullgard4> !prefix | outy
[11:12] <MethedMan> is there a solid program that i can run in emacs to send anonymous email?
[11:12] <outy> sorry ubotuu
[11:12] <nags_> All
[11:12] <nags_> I am new to the IRC channel
[11:13] <[4-tea-2]> MethedMan: I suspect there is no such thing as anonymous email.
[11:13] <Zahrada> it's all fine and dandy now, [4-tea-2].
[11:13] <nags_> I have a few questions about ubuntu server edition
[11:13] <bullgard4> outy: ubottu is a machine, it is no nick.
[11:13] <nags_> who do I address the questions to?
[11:13] <DocPlatypus> [4-tea-2]: there is
[11:13] <bullgard4> !ask | nags_
[11:13] <outy> !prefix
[11:13] <marenostrum> nags_, To the chanel directly, please.
[11:14] <Joker_99> sht does anyone know what this net ubuntu update screwed up?
[11:14] <marenostrum> *chanel
[11:14] <MethedMan> [4-tea-2]: i suppose you are right, but there are ways to anonymize your email.
[11:14] <Joker_99> new*
[11:14] <botcity> MethedMan, 10minitemail is your bets bet
[11:14] <AziaBurgi> ah...
[11:14] <kryl> hi
[11:14] <AziaBurgi> hello everyone
[11:14] <lubuntu> hello
[11:14] <[4-tea-2]> DocPlatypus, MethedMan: you're right, I totally forgot about mixmaster chains.
[11:14] <botcity> MethedMan, best*
[11:15] <nags_> does ubuntu support dual-Xeon (each 4 core) server grade machine?
[11:15] <AziaBurgi> i came back from holiday today to find our server had updated to 11.04 and won't boot
[11:15] <lubuntu> i have two day lubuntu and dont have any new update for packaged ;)
[11:15] <Joker_99> whatever they changed about where the close X goes has screwed up alot on my system
[11:15] <AziaBurgi> http://i51.tinypic.com/2cz8t5g.jpg - getting this error
[11:15] <kryl> I used root lvm crypt partition (and works well since last upgrade : 11.04) , everything looks fine but when I boot after giving my password successful it show me a prompt with initramfs (I suppose busybox) do you know why please ?
[11:15] <AziaBurgi> any suggestions?
[11:16] <bullgard4> nags_: I believe yes.
[11:16] <MethedMan> botcity: what is 10minitemail
[11:16] <lubuntu> AziaBurgi,  are you restart again ?
[11:16] <nags_> @bullgard4, how do I confirm that?
[11:17] <AziaBurgi> tried restarting the box several times with the same error
[11:17] <jwtiyar> i cant upgrade to 11.04 with live dvd ??
[11:17] <DocPlatypus> AziaBurgi: "Unable to mount root fs" -- that means exactly what it says.
[11:17] <MethedMan> [4-tea-2]: yeah, mixmaster is a pain in the rear.  i do not use vi/vim either.  prefer to use emacs
[11:17] <DocPlatypus> AziaBurgi: restarting alone won't help. you need to boot from CD and figure out what's wrong with your root filesystem, or possibly your GRUB config
[11:17] <[4-tea-2]> Any help with my desktop search question? - I'm trying Unity and I wonder what's the desktop search engine it's supposed to use and how to configure it to find my interesting files. Any help or pointers?
[11:17] <bullgard4> nags_: By asking in #ubuntu-kernel and stating your kernel version.
[11:17] <nicko> Hello , i have a small problem , my grub2 boot list countdown (timer) disappeared . any ideas ?
[11:18] <^elf^> anyone got any clues regarding this? server1 = win7, server2 = natty. When doing smb file copies on server1 (regardless of which direction) between server1 and server2 it goes at full ethernet speed. But when starting the copy on server2 (remote //server1/share is mounted via cifs) it only goes at ~25% speed
[11:18] <botcity> MethedMan, 10minutemail.com mail for 10minutes!
[11:18] <AziaBurgi> okies i'll try that
[11:18] <bullgard4> !grub2 | nicko
[11:18] <jwtiyar> i cant upgrade to 11.04 with live dvd ??
[11:19] <DJones> nicko: Do you just have one operating system on the machine or dual boot? If its a single o/s, it will normally just boot straight into ubuntu
[11:19] <nags_> @bullgard4, I am planning to buy a server for building Android apps for my organization. So, I can go with the Kernel version that supports.
[11:19] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: What Live DVD do you have?
[11:19] <[4-tea-2]> MethedMan: Google tells me there's a mixmaster.el, but it's ancient.
[11:19] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, that i dwonloaded from ubuntu.com
[11:20] <lubuntu> bullgard4,  its liveCD
[11:20] <nags_> bullgard4, Is there some documentation on which HW is supported ?
[11:20] <js__> hello
[11:21] <MethedMan> botcity: that website is useless
[11:21] <js__> I have a problem regard the terminal
[11:21] <marenostrum> nags_, Please have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1117827 This is abou the CPU.
[11:21] <Hack_the_matrix_> yo
[11:21] <js__> when I switch from browser to terminal
[11:21] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: There are several different Live DVDs available from ubuntu.com.
[11:21] <js__> terminal become freezed
[11:21] <DJones> jwtiyar: As far as I know, you need the alternative cd/dvd to use a cd/dvd upgrade option
[11:21] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, sorry its livecd
[11:21] <js__> I cannot type whatever from keyboard
[11:22] <jwtiyar> DJones, omg i have to download alternative cd/dvd again?
[11:22] <outy> so nobody can help me ?
[11:22] <DJones> jwtiyar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades About half way down it has details of upgrading using the alternate cd/dvd
[11:22] <js__> anyone can tell me how to solve this?
[11:22] <botcity> MethedMan, http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html
[11:22] <DJones> jwtiyar: Somebody else may be able to advise you on whether you can upgrade using the live cd/dvd, but I don't know if its possible
[11:23] <jwtiyar> DJones, thanks
[11:23] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: Using a Ubuntu live CD you can upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 but you will need a broadband Internet connection to download many additional package.
[11:23] <bullgard4> s/package/packages/
[11:23] <js__> I have never found a solution on any website
[11:23] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, i have broadband internet connection
[11:24] <bullgard4> jwtiyar: Then go ahead. But first make a backup of your old /home directory.
[11:25] <jwtiyar> bullgard4, how to backup them? burning to DVD ?
[11:25] <bullgard4> nags_: There is plenty of documentation what hardware is supported. You will need to be more specific.
[11:25] <lubuntu> you can write to pendrive
[11:25] <wolfy_> hello, Is there something like df in terminal? I wish to see a statistic of space used for / , /home , / etc , /usr etc.
[11:26] <jrib> wolfy_: df is a terminal program...
[11:26] <gartral> why were the openbios-arch packages not in natty?
[11:26] <nicko> DJones: i'm dual boot , my grub2 is working fine just the 10 sec countdown not working and i have to manualy click it, my /etc/default/grub is the same from the day i install
[11:27] <wolfy_> uhm, df dose not show how mutch space is used in /etc or /usr
[11:27] <js__> what is df?
[11:27] <wolfy_> df -disck free
[11:27] <jrib> wolfy_: you're looking for du
[11:28]  * wolfy_ is reading the ''man du''
[11:28] <frankS2> How can I check which package /bin/ls comes from?
[11:28] <bullgard4> !enter |  js__
[11:28] <botcity> wolfy_, did you mean a gui like df
[11:28] <jrib> frankS2: dpkg -S /bin/ls
[11:29] <frankS2> thanks jrib
[11:29] <js__> sorry, I am new
[11:29] <wolfy_> it is okay in terminal, a gui it is nicer trough
[11:29] <jrib> wolfy_: baobab (you could have just asked for gui first)
[11:29] <AziaBurgi> DocPlatypus: would any live CD work because the office has been "tidied" over the holiday and the ubuntu disc has gone walkies
[11:30] <bullgard4> wolfy_: Try ncdu
[11:30] <nags_> marenostrum, thanks for the link
[11:30] <frankS2> jrib: any way I can do that in reverse? Like check all files that comes from the package
[11:30] <jrib> frankS2: dpkg -L
[11:30] <nags_> bullgard4, sure, I will try to get more specific details
[11:30] <gartral> frankS2: "ls" came from gnu-utils.
[11:30] <marenostrum> nags_, You're welcome. Hope it was useful.
[11:30] <frankS2> gartral: no, coreutils
[11:30]  * wolfy_ thank's to all of you  guys
[11:30] <gartral> frankS2: ok, i wa close.. im tired
[11:31] <nags_> bullgard4, I just want to make sure that we can make sure of the full potential of the Xeon (super expensive) server
[11:31] <Rahber> ok i downloaded chrome from official site and when i open it in software center i get this Dependency is not satisfiable: libcurl3
[11:31] <purvesh> after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 my phpmyadmin is not working so for that this command is perfect or not? but i dont want to loose previous all databases if i reconfigure with this command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow phpmyadmin"
[11:34] <nags_> marenostrum, yes it was helpful
[11:34] <nags_> marenostrum, I need to go back and get specific details of the hardware to ask more specific question, I guess.
[11:34] <js__> I am now facing a problem, when I switch from browser or others folder to terminal by pressing (alt + tab), then I cannot type in whatever key from keyboard, it is no effect at all. I only can press (alt + tab), after switch (alt + tab) a few time, the terminal can work again.
[11:34] <js__> Anyone know how to solve this?
[11:34] <bullgard4> nags_: First turn to #ubuntu-kernel for establishing that your kernel supports your anticipated processors.
[11:34] <js__> Thanks
[11:35] <marenostrum> Rahber, An old forum thtead bıt may be useful: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/09/dependency-is-not-satisfiable-libnss3.html
[11:35]  * wolfy_ rm -f /bin/laden
[11:36] <marenostrum> nags_, Might be better. And keep in mind the address: askubuntu.com There you can have nice answers as well.
[11:36] <js__> wolfy_, is this a solution for me?
[11:37] <botcity> js__, no
[11:37] <wolfy_> js__,  is a joke
[11:37] <botcity> js__, lol
[11:37] <nags_> marenostrum, yes that looks a good idea
[11:37] <js__> lol
[11:37] <bullgard4> js__: What Ubuntu release do you use? What desktop do you use? Did you analyze /var/log/syslog at this event time?
[11:37] <nags_> I will go there and check out the details
[11:37] <js__> bullgard4, 11.04
[11:38] <marenostrum> nags_, There are many friends who knows a lot about hardware and servers thete on askubuntu.com
[11:38] <bullgard4> js__: What desktop do you use? Did you analyze /var/log/syslog at this event time?
[11:38] <kryl> I used root lvm crypt partition (and works well since last upgrade : 11.04) , everything looks fine but when I boot after giving my password successful it show me a prompt with initramfs (I suppose busybox) do you know why please ?
[11:38] <nags_> marenostrum, I am there right now and will post a question right away
[11:39] <iceroot> kryl: are the crypt-moduls build for your current kernel?=
[11:39] <js__> bullgard4: What you mean "desktop"? No such command as "/var/log/syslog"
[11:39] <marenostrum> nags_, Wish you luck.
[11:39] <thewanderer1> hi. any idea why a chroot made with debootstrap has "squeeze/sid" in /etc/debian_version and Ubuntu 11.04 in issue.net? or how do I check the version reliably?
[11:39] <kryl> iceroot, when I'm in busybox the /dev/mapper/vg-root are allready here so I guess yes
[11:40] <amin> hello guy last night I update my ubuntu and install items in update manager about 3mb but today I have about 130mb update  while I was trying to update it it refreshed and become 49kb worth of download update what is wrong?
[11:40] <bullgard4> js__: By "desktop" I mean your graphical user interface. For example GNOME 2, Unity, KDE, etc.
[11:40] <iceroot> kryl: but that is only the lvm not encrypted, correct?
[11:40] <kryl> I encrypt the full lvm ;)
[11:40] <js__> bullgard4: I think is GNOME, I am new in Ubuntu.
[11:40] <Kream> is there a separate chat channel for ubuntu server?
[11:41] <iceroot> kryl: #ubuntu-server
[11:41] <Kream> thank you
[11:41] <kryl> :)
[11:41] <Laurencesm> hello, I wanted to install proprietary video driver for my video card, but ati radeon x1600 is no longer supported by ati. do I need to install other distro (8.04), or just use os driver?
[11:41] <iceroot> !ati | Laurencesm
[11:42] <Laurencesm> !ati
[11:42] <bullgard4> js__: The default graphical user interface of Ubuntu 11.04 is "Unity". Do you see a few icons to the right of your screen image?
[11:43] <kryl> iceroot, don't know
[11:43] <js__> bullgard4: I only see icons to the left of my screen
[11:44] <bullgard4> js__: I made a mistake. I meant "to the left". --  So you are using "Unity" as your graphical user interface.
[11:44] <js__> bullgard4: I am fresh install Ubuntu 11.04, so I think it is Unity
[11:44] <kryl> iceroot, /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot in initramfs looks good
[11:44] <kryl> but it stay locked in here
[11:45] <bullgard4> js__: Yes. --  I cannot help you as I do not use Unity myself. --  Good luck with Ubuntu!
[11:45] <js__> bullgard4: Nevermind, Thanks
[11:46] <Dan_E> how do I get full screen view for youtube videos in ubuntu 11.04?
[11:46] <wolfy_> I'm not amazed by unity either
[11:46] <raptor> ciao
[11:46] <raptor> !list
[11:46] <bindi> Unity is horrible tbh and they should have something else for the next release :/
[11:46] <bullgard4> js__: I have read that such an error occurs with Unity. But I do not know how to fix it.
[11:47] <wolfy_> !cc verify 3264378345
[11:47] <wolfy_> :))
[11:48] <wolfy_> !ccroute 423056346740
[11:48] <bullgard4> js__: I would recommend that you switch to Ubuntu Classic view. Ubuntu Classic View does not have many errors.
[11:48] <wolfy_> =))
[11:49] <wolfy_> dose channel's with cc exist anymore in these times?
[11:49] <js__> bullgard4: how to switch to classic view?
[11:49] <bullgard4> wolfy_: What is a "channel with cc"?
[11:49] <wolfy_> js__, logout and from the longin screen you can switch to ubuntu classic
[11:49] <marenostrum> js__, Your problem shouldn't have to to anything with Unity interface. I'm on Unity as well but don't experience the problem. I try to think about it but, sorry, I couldn't figure out anything. By the way, is there any other problem with the system? Is the terminal the default one, gnome-terminal?
[11:50] <mgj> In 11.04, how do i change my workspace positioning? Default has a 2x2 grid, but i would much prefer a 1x4 row. As the bottom panel is removed in 11.04, i cannot find anywhere to change this. I refuse to believe that this simple task is impossible to do in unity...?
[11:50] <wolfy_> bullgard4, irc credit card channel
[11:50] <js__> wolfy_: thanks
[11:50] <stimpie> mgj: its an option in compiz-settings-manager
[11:51] <wolfy_> there you can verify the cc, route to bank, pin number, email password and dirty h0ax like that
[11:51] <js__> marenostrum: It is a default terminal, last time when I was using Ubuntu 10.10 also faced a same problem
[11:51] <bullgard4> js__: It is not complicated: You will have to quit (or "terminate") Unity. Then start anew. When you are prompted for your login name and your logon password, you will find at the bottom at about the middle a menu which has a menu item "Ubuntu Classic". Press on it.
[11:52] <mgj> stimpie, thank you
[11:52] <marenostrum> js__, So its definetely not related with Unity. But what? Lets google some.
[11:52] <js__> bullgard4: thanks
[11:53] <js__> marenostrum: I have been googled, but no result. I think no one have face this kind of problem
[11:53] <pranav> hey, can anyone tell me the most appropriate alternative of 'wordweb', a thesaurus software for ubuntu :?
[11:53] <iceroot> kryl: is the modul loaded? (lsmod)
[11:53] <stimpie> mgj: to be more precise its at 'general options'-> 'Desktop size'
[11:54] <marenostrum> js__, Some did. Would you please wait for me for a couple of minutes?
[11:54] <js__> marenostrum: Yes. Are you found a solution?
[11:55] <marenostrum> js__, Not sure about the solution but found something similar. 3 minutes.
[11:55] <ph88> i am using SciTE as my text editor ... how do i set it so it opens new files in a new tab and not in a new window ?
[11:55] <DJones> pranav: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=thesaurus&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all There's various thesaurus & descriptions listed here, hopefully one of those will help you
[11:55] <bullgard4> Pranav: will you be content with "dict"?
[11:55] <js__> marenostrum: Thanks. Send me the link later.
[11:56] <pranav> bullgard4: no, i need synonyms, antonyms, near, & everything a word has relation with ;)
[11:56] <pranav> bullgard4: which do you suggest
[11:56] <kryl> iceroot, I'll double check do you know the exact names of these modules ?
[11:56] <marenostrum> js__, 1st link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/252144  Its an old bug and should be fixed but mat give an idea. There's one more. Coning.
[11:57] <Dan_E> is there a fix to get full screen view for youtube videos in 11.04?
[11:57] <iceroot> kryl: on my crpyted-system its "dm_crypt"
[11:57] <bullgard4> Pranav: "dict" does not list "everything a word has relation with". Sorry.
[11:57] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: is it crashing back everytime you try?
[11:57] <Dan_E> just get a white screen
[11:57] <pranav> bullgard4: have you used wordweb, i need a software like it in Linux
[11:58] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: firefox? using unity?
[11:58] <bullgard4> Pranav: No.
[11:58] <Dan_E> can hit esc and get out of it
[11:58] <js__> marenostrum: Yes, is exactly this kind of problem
[11:58] <Dan_E> firefox yes unity??
[11:58] <botcity> js__, have you got ccsm installed?
[11:58] <pranav> Someone was speaking about bug. And My ubuntu has already freezed except this empathy window
[11:58] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: not using unity?
[11:59] <Dan_E> sorry sir I dont know unity
[11:59] <marenostrum> js__, ıs there any hint for the solution for you? I'm not experiencing the problem.
[11:59] <js__> botcity: No but I have install scim
[11:59] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: is your desktop iphone like? if not then you're probably not using unity
[11:59] <js__> marenostrum: Haven yet, but I think the link that you provided help a lot. Thank you very much
[12:00] <marenostrum> js__, Did you make a fresh install or Web upgarade? Did you make changes to Compiz?
[12:00] <Dan_E> my desktop has the dock on the left side with icons
[12:01] <js__> marenostrum: I am fresh install Ubuntu 11.04, but i didn't change to Compiz
[12:01] <Dan_E> natty
[12:02] <marenostrum> js__, I see. So I can't say anything why you have the problem and why I don't. Wish luck.
[12:02] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: thats probably unity, i'm using latest flash and firefox 3 - fullscreen works fine, so i assume its a firefox 4 problem (kinda thin assumption at this point) but 4.0.1 was released, so as soon as ubuntu can brand it you'll know if its flash or firefox; unless you're using compiz then i'd reccommend disabling it
[12:03] <Dan_E> foxfire 401
[12:04] <js__> marenostrum: At least I have a hint about it.
[12:05] <Dan_E> sorry firefox 4.0.1
[12:06] <JediMaster> Just tried a do-release-upgrade on a 10.10 server I run and had it completely fail right at the start: http://pastebin.com/UGXGsRGM
[12:06] <Guest27551> hello, i neeed healp with USB wireless adapter TP-LINK TL-WN727N
[12:06] <Guest27551> i have ubuntu 11.04
[12:06] <Dan_E> how do I get the latest Flash?
[12:07] <JediMaster> the only think other than the backtrace in that pastebin I can see in the log files is: lspci failed: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[12:07] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: you can't through normal methods, you have to wait for ubuntu/canonical to brand and test then release it
[12:08] <Dan_E> thank you very much.
[12:08] <JediMaster> I'm going to try and install pciutils on it and try again
[12:08] <aeon-ltd> Dan_E: so you pretty much have to wait, or try other browsers to see if it works - then you'll confirm that its flash
[12:10] <js__> marenostrum: My problem solved. I remove scim package and restart PC.
[12:10] <JediMaster> yeah installing pciutils fixed do-release-upgrade
[12:10] <js__> botcity: Is scim problem. now solved
[12:11] <Dan_E> thanks again!!
[12:11] <PeterZerneche> hello
[12:12] <PeterZerneche> a short question
[12:12] <Rahber> hello
[12:12] <Rahber> whats jockey-backend ?
[12:12] <gju> hey guys, is it possible to change the email reader for the notification area applet to something else (e.g. thunderbird) instead of evolution?
[12:12] <PeterZerneche> its for driver
[12:13] <Rahber> when i tried to install anything it says updating cache and waiting for jockey backend to exit but nothing happens
[12:13] <aeon-ltd> !package jockey-backend
[12:13] <aeon-ltd> !find jockey-backend
[12:14] <PeterZerneche> hello
[12:14] <Rahber> how do i sort it out ?
[12:14] <PeterZerneche> a short question
[12:14] <bullgard4> How does MetaCity change if I assert in gconf-editor: apps->metacity->general->compositing_manager? (I did read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing)
[12:15] <bullgard4> !ask | PeterZerneche
[12:15] <PeterZerneche> bullgard4: first i have to say i love gnome 2. kde and tooo xfce are also okay. but i heard noww, gnome 2 shouldnt be in 11.10. what should i do? switch to kde? gnome 3 and unity is quite okay, but not good.
[12:16] <Rahber> i cant get rid of that jockey-backend to exit ?
[12:17] <arsenall_> try fluxbox
[12:17] <bullgard4> PeterZerneche: My advice: Stick to GNOME 2 in Natty. In Oneiron GNOME 3 will be developed very well, and Ubuntu will base much of their desktop activity on GNOME 3. So, switch to GNOME 3 in Oneiron.
[12:18] <PeterZerneche> ok thanks
[12:18] <kryl> iceroot, I have message in console who said : /dev/mapper/vg doesn't exist... (but I can see it in /dev/vg/root for example (vg is the name of my lvm with vg-root, vg-home, etc...) I don't have the command lsmod in busybox ! but I have dm-crypt in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[12:19] <bob__> how do I install Googlizer please
[12:19] <AG_Scott> Does anyone know of an indicator applet (right term?) for pidgin?
[12:19] <arsenall_> enlightment 17 is pretty good, but it haves cuople bugs
[12:20] <bullgard4> AG_Scott: Yes. In GNOME 2 it is the second from the right. A letter envelope symbol
[12:20] <AG_Scott> I don't think I called it correctly then lol
[12:20] <Rahber> whats Dependency is not satisfiable: libnspr4-0d (>= 4.7.1)
[12:20] <AG_Scott> I mean something like the envelope.
[12:21] <AG_Scott> Kind of like dropbox has?
[12:21] <bullgard4> !prefix | AG_Scott
[12:22] <stephan> hey, i got a question. I removed and installed evolution. Now is my entry in the message applet for all email actions deleted. How can I add this entry again? In Unity, 11.04.
[12:23] <AG_Scott> stephan: one second
[12:23] <remoteCTRL1> i have been searching launchpad for the last 20 minutes in order to find some functionality to report a bug, am i to stoopid to find it or are they too stoopid to place a button???
[12:23] <AG_Scott> stephan: try install evolution-indicator I actually just removed it :D
[12:24] <kapu> is there a way to untar a file.tar.gz where the resulting file is not nested, but in a specified directory? Using 'tar -zxvf file.tar.gz ./path/to/file/wanted_file' results in the file nested in the parent dir
[12:24] <stephan> AG_Scott: This works, thank you very much :)
[12:25] <AG_Scott> :)
[12:25] <Aginor> kapu: yes :D
[12:25] <Aginor> kapu: try -C <target>
[12:25] <kapu> Aginor: ok
[12:26] <vanguard> how can I get rid of everything Ubuntu One?
[12:26] <kapu> Aginor: thanks
[12:26] <Aginor> kapu: success?
[12:26] <Rahber> how to get rid of that jockey-backend ?
[12:26] <AG_Scott> vanguard: open software center and search ubuntu one
[12:27] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks.
[12:28] <GeorgeJ> I'm having problems booting the Ubuntu 11.04 CD. Modprobe is returning an error with an exit status of 0x0009
[12:29] <arsenall_> GeorgeJ:  use pendrive
[12:29] <vanguard> AG_Scott: I guess I will have to restart?
[12:29] <kapu> Aginor: no, but was trying to find capital c in man tar'
[12:29] <GeorgeJ> arsenall_:  Same issue
[12:29] <AG_Scott> I dun know
[12:29] <remoteCTRL1> how do you report a bug on launchpad?
[12:29] <AG_Scott> I removed it earlier and restarted.
[12:29] <AG_Scott> Might as well I guess.
[12:30] <gothelittle> ...Hello?
[12:30] <lubuntu> hi
[12:30] <Aginor> kapu: use / to search :D
[12:31] <Aginor> kapu: also, you might have more luck with "info tar"
[12:31] <gothelittle> Hi! :) I'm trying to figure out this new version of Ubuntu and I'm not used to the chat client. How can I get it to tell me which of my friends are online?
[12:31] <Aginor> kapu: tar -C targetdir -xf sourcefile
[12:31] <Aginor> kapu: add flags as needed, for example j or z and or v
[12:34] <pvh_sa> hey there, how do i add an item to the menu in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[12:35] <kapu> 'tar -zxvf file.tar.gz ./path/to/file/wanted_file' -C ./wanted_file results in something almost, but not entirely unlike joy
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> pvh_sa:  You mean the left side 'launcher' ?
[12:35] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: First you will need an account in Launchpad.
[12:35] <gothelittle> Oh! Never mind, I figured it out, it's up under the mail icon. You click on the chat client from there and it'll bring up your contact list.
[12:35] <prov> If I boot ubuntu in the livecd mode can I direct it before it boots to full to mount the disks as readonly?
[12:35] <GeorgeJ> How can I see the full stacktrace of an error during boot? The system crashes afterwards so there is no way of reading the log files.
[12:36] <pvh_sa> Dr_Willis: no, the thing which comes up when i hit the 'windows key' - i've got bacula bat installed, but there's no menu item... so i need to manually create one
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> prov:  not that  i have ever seen.
[12:36] <prov> Dr_Willis: How can it be done?
[12:36] <prov> Dr_Willis: Do I need a special distro?
[12:36] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: i had one for many years now, but i never was in the pesky situation to have to report a bug in ubiquity without using apport or something...?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> pvh_sa:  thats dash (i think) you could make a proper whatever.desktop entry for the program and put it with the other system desktop files.
[12:37] <bullgard4> GeorgeJ: There are more than one provision. You need to install a trace program. You need to install the necessary DEB packages.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> prov:  Never wanted to do it that way. so ive never tried.  Given the varity of setups out there. I doubt if any disrtos do it that way.
[12:37] <No_one_at_ZNC> Is there, or was there, a Rehan here....
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> prov:  you could perhaps remaster your own. but im not sure what rules you would change for the mount options.
[12:37] <prov> Dr_Willis: Not even forensics distros.
[12:38] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: You can probably re-activate it.
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> prov:  go try them and see. theres many of that type out. I never use them.
[12:38] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: beg your pardon?
[12:38] <CoachJ> will wubi work with windows 7 and ubuntu 11.4?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> prov:   you could always use a disrto that has no auto-mounting feature/settings at all.
[12:38] <GeorgeJ> bullgard4: The 11.04 live cd is throwing the error during boot. I think its failing to load "nouveau". I'm pretty sure I cannot make any additions to the CD.
[12:39] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: it is not deactivated, i just need to report a bug without using ubuntu onboard means but by using launchpad only
[12:39] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: If you had an account in Launchpad and did not use it for a long time, you probably can re-activate your Lanchpad account.
[12:39] <bullgard4> +u
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> GeorgeJ:  you could try the 'nomodeset' option  at boot time. I have to do that for many of my nvidia systems
[12:41] <GeorgeJ> Dr_Willis: Thank you very much, that seems to fix the issue. However , will this cause me any further problems?
[12:41] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: I DO HAVE A WORKING ACCOUNT ON LAUNCHPAD, i need to REPORT A BUG, not to CREATE AN ACCOUNT! so far so clear? ;)
[12:41] <Aginor> kapu: why are you having the path there twice?
[12:41] <DarkStar1> How can I find out the version of slapd running?
[12:41] <kapu> Aginor: After failing a few times, i thought i'd ask. lets say you want some file extracted to the current directory from baz.tar.gz where inside BAZ.tar.gz the location of file is ./foo/bar/baz
[12:41] <Aginor> kapu: 'tar -zxvf file.tar.gz  -C ./path/to/file/wanted_file'
[12:42] <jack123> hi all
[12:42] <Aginor> kapu: oh, I didn't realise you're trying to extract only one file from the archive
[12:42] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: Log in to Launchpad. Go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[12:42] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: i am logged in
[12:42] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: Select the affected DEB program package.
[12:42] <kapu> Aginor: yes, only one file
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> GeorgeJ:  i use nomodeset. untill i get the nvidia drivers installed.
[12:43] <remoteCTRL1> which is supposedly ubiquity, where do i select it?
[12:43] <Aginor> kapu: so what is not working with the command you pasted?
[12:43] <GeorgeJ> Dr_Willis: Awesome, thanks for the help
[12:44] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: which is supposedly ubiquity, where do i select it?
[12:44] <Aginor> kapu: I'd also try to prepend -C
[12:44] <kapu> Aginor: ok
[12:44] <AG_Scott> Is anyone using the "classic desktop" on a non-upgraded install and can test something for me?
[12:44] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: They have there a link "Read our guide or take a tour.)
[12:45] <danst_> hello guys, I'm doing ubuntu netboot so I compile kernel by hand. But after it starts booting I see just clear display with only flashing cursor in text mode
[12:45] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: i am aware of that but there is no "report a bug" button in there neither ;)
[12:45] <nanomad> I'm having a problem with firefox, can anyone help me?
[12:45] <nanomad> scrolling is painfully slow on some pages
[12:45] <danst_> I can switch to tty1, and the last string tells me init: unreadahead main process (68) terminated with status 5
[12:46] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: I did not say "button" but "link".
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  i think thats a common message. I see some ureadahead messages on several of my machines.
[12:46] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: so far the most promising thing close to a report bug functionality i found here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu problem  is the "report bug" link leads to the ubuntu homepage and tells me to use ubuntu-bug, which i cannot as the bug is already in the installer...
[12:47] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1 AFAIK you can run ubuntu-bug from the installer
[12:47] <nanomad> unless you cannot boot of course
[12:47] <danst_> Dr_Willis: how do I boot ubuntu single without framebuffer text mode
[12:47] <danst_> I think framebuffer is the problem
[12:47] <CoachJ> can wubi be used with windows 7 and ubuntu 11.4
[12:48] <DarkStar1> DOes anyone know how to find out the version of the running openldap daemon?
[12:48] <DarkStar1> slapd
[12:48] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: ok so you said link not button, then please tell me where the link to report a bug is?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  the text option disablesx the framebuffer and plymouth
[12:48] <bildramer> so it's stable
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  its not 'single user mode'
[12:48] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: happen to know how?
[12:48] <danst_> uh
[12:48] <bildramer> whoops, wrong channel.
[12:48] <danst_> how do I specify it
[12:49] <danst_> APPEND root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.3.241:/home/nfsroot/ubuntu ip=dhcp rw
[12:49] <kapu> Aginor: 'tar -C ./boot -zxf /mnt1/OpenBSD/4.9/i386/base49.tgz ./usr/mdec/boot' still results in nested file. I am not knowing where to put the -C
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  at the grub menu, edit the lines, replace quiet splash, with 'text'
[12:49] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, which installer are you using? alternate cd or live?
[12:49] <danst_> Dr_Willis: no grub menu in netboot
[12:49] <axisys> how do I automate the security update?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  i dont do netboots. so no idea
[12:49] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: bullgard4 i would like to report a bug thast i have been seing for several versions now that causes ubiquity to freeze when you choose a keyboard layout which leads to you reinstalling, which is time-consuming on a netbook!
[12:49] <danst_> Dr_Willis: could you paste your grub.cfg please
[12:49] <danst_> so I grab your options for text mode
[12:49] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: not alternat the regular one
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> danst_:  its a kernel option, same as quiet splash,
[12:50] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: Apparently the processes to report bugs to Launchpad have changed. In recent times I only used the ubuntu-bug command. But this is not possible for you, I understand. The old process apparently is no longer available. I just read that you can report a bug via an Email as well.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> danst_: all i do is change 'quiet splash' with 'text'  when i want to.
[12:50] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: you gotta be kiddn me! :D
[12:50] <remoteCTRL1> geeez...
[12:50] <bullgard4> remoteCTRL1: See you later.
[12:50] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, boot the live cd and open a terminal
[12:51] <Aginor> kapu: that unfortunately looks correct to me
[12:51] <remoteCTRL1> now i know why this bug has been existing for versions now: how the hell would you report it? :DDD
[12:51] <remoteCTRL1> bullgard4: thanks for your help, dude, i appreciate it!
[12:51] <kapu> Aginor: ok thanks for looking
[12:51] <Aginor> kapu: and by nested, you mean that tar is preserving the whole path to the file?
[12:51] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: i CAN do the whole install process again and then report it... *sigh*
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> linux_probe: /vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=#####  ro   quiet nosplash  >--> replace quiet nosplash with 'text'
[12:52] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, that's the point of it
[12:52] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: my gratitude also to you for your help!
[12:52] <kapu> Aginor: yes
[12:52] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, there is a way to report a bug without ubuntu-bug
[12:52] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: yes?
[12:52] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, but i can't remember which...gimme some time ;)
[12:53] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: hehe, sure i will yawn alittle infront of my second install attempt while the progressbar creeps its way...
[12:53] <kapu> Aginor: 'tar: Cannot chdir to ./boot: No such file or directoryy'
[12:53] <remoteCTRL1> kapu: /boot not ./boot
[12:53] <zappus> Hey everyone
[12:53] <JrM> hey
[12:53] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, here you go
[12:53] <nanomad> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug?no-redirect
[12:54] <remoteCTRL1> hey zappus
[12:54] <kapu> remoteCTRL1: ty
[12:54] <zappus> im installing ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop together with win7
[12:54] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, it was in the middle of the wiki page
[12:54] <zappus> and resizing the partitions takes like 10 min
[12:54] <zappus> and still going
[12:54] <Aginor> kapu: it expects the dir to exist, look into using --strip-components <numberofdirstostrip>
[12:54] <zappus> is something gone wrong
[12:54] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: the ubuntu bug reporting page??
[12:54] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, it was in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[12:54] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, middl of the page
[12:55] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, section Filing bugs at Launchpad.net
[12:55] <kapu> Aginor: ok ty again for the look
[12:55] <Fleck> anyone can install fglrx on natty?
[12:55] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, but you SHOULD use ubuntu-bug, really...it gives much more "debug" information
[12:55] <zappus> guys?
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> darn, you are rigth!
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> apologies!!
[12:56] <zappus> how long does resizing of partitions take?
[12:56] <nanomad> zappus, well...was the partition defragmented?
[12:56] <Aginor> kapu: I'm just googling really
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> zappus: depends on how big and how many data on it
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> zappus:  shrinking can take quiet a bit of time. depending on how full and big the filesystem is.
[12:56] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: the bug that i will report is completely independent of hardware, etc...
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> zappus:  I find windows resizes ntfs MUCH faster then linux and the ubuntu installer does
[12:57] <nanomad> ok
[12:57] <nanomad> no one hre using firefox and experiencing 100% cpu usage while scrolling? It's driving me crazy :/
[12:57] <remoteCTRL1> nanomad: thanks for your help, dude!:)
[12:57] <zappus> oh ok
[12:57] <nanomad> remoteCTRL1, you're welcome!
[12:57] <zappus> there is an option in installler "skip"
[12:57] <zappus> what would that do?
[12:58] <zappus> oh ok nvm
[12:58] <zappus> :P
[12:58] <nanomad> zappus, bad things IF it is resizing the partition
[12:58] <zappus> it moved on
[12:58] <zappus> thanks for help
[12:58] <CoachJ> does anyone know if wubi will work with windows 7 and ubuntu 11.4?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> CoachJ:  i would think it should.
[12:59] <nanomad> CoachJ, why it shouldn't?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> but i dont reccomend wubi at all.
[12:59] <Technikfreak> is here anybody from czech?
[12:59] <CoachJ> i dont know i thought i saw a warning somewhere but cant find it now
[13:00] <arsenall_> Dr_Willis:   what do you recomend?
[13:01] <nanomad> arsenall_, use the installer as it is
[13:02] <vatzec> Ubuntu, why can I no longer specify a custom program to use as my HTTP link handler in preferred programs?
[13:03] <vatzec> GNU IceCat doesn't appear on the list
[13:04] <nanomad> vatzec, what's the output of ls -la /usr/bin/www-browser
[13:05] <Technium> I have a problem with my new 11.04 install. The LiveCD booted into Unity with acceleration but now I've installed it I found myself in the old experience. How can I switch to Unity?
[13:06] <nanomad> in gdm there's a menu on the bottom it says Ubuntu classic, change it
[13:06] <Technium> It current Says Ubuntu, not classic :(
[13:07] <botcity> is firefox part of the meta package that comes with ubuntu standard install and if so will there be any problems un-installing it ?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> arsenall_:  doing a normal install.
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Technium:  whats your video chipset? you may need to enable the 3d drivers
[13:08] <vatzec> nanomad: "/usr/bin/www-browser -> /etc/alternatives/www-browser"
[13:09] <pranav> I'm using Lucid Lynx, & Firefox 3.6. Now, the picture rendering quality is so low. I noticed it today, I don't think it was before. What do I do ?
[13:09] <Technium> Its a new Dell Latitude 6520 with Intel and Nvidia. The additional drivers say installed but not active.
[13:09] <nanomad> Technium, there is a button to enable it?
[13:10] <nishttal> hi I just installed 11.04 and I have 2 xscreens.. however I only see launchers and panels on the main x screen.. how do i configure the 2nd screen
[13:10] <nanomad> pranav, do you have a ascreenshot?
[13:10] <Technium> Only to remove. The phrase is "activated but not currently in use"
[13:10] <shuduo> anyone know how to apply a patch with binary diff? I tried patch -p1 --binary < my.patch but the binary file did not show up
[13:10] <nanomad> Technium, did you reboot?
[13:10] <Technium> Yes
[13:11] <nanomad> Technium, can you provide the output of lsmod | grep nv
[13:11] <trap8> nanomad: its fine with other applications
[13:11] <botcity> nishttal, enable twin view i think
[13:11] <nishttal> botcity, no i want to keep them seperate
[13:11] <Technium> "nvidia              10709116  0 "
[13:11] <nishttal> botcity, i had the same setup with 10.10 running gnome
[13:12] <nanomad> Technium, run in a terminal sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:13] <Technium> "VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[13:13] <Technium> "Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line."
[13:13] <nanomad> Technium, sudo mv sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:13] <nanomad> Technium, forget that last line
[13:13] <Technium> :)
[13:14] <thegoodcushion> I find that in 10.04 I have the su command and none of my passwords work with it.  1) Is su officially supported now?  2)  Why don't my passwords work?
[13:14] <nanomad> Technium, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back
[13:14] <botcity> nishttal, ho okay.. do you get a benefit from that set-up?
[13:14] <nanomad> Technium, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[13:14] <Technium> Okay, thats is cleaner. Reboot?
[13:14] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  try with sudo not su
[13:14] <nishttal> yeah.. i can have 1 desktop on 1 screen and 2 on the second.. i like that setup
[13:15] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: yes I know but my questions still stand
[13:15] <nanomad> Technium, if anything goes wrong just run
[13:15] <nanomad> Technium, sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:15] <KrisDouglas> Hello, how do I load the PAE kernel on my machine?
[13:15] <KrisDouglas> is it as simple as installing it?
[13:15] <nanomad> Technium, and yes..reboot
[13:15] <Technium> Thanks. BRB
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> KrisDouglas:  it is its own package. yes.. that should do it.
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> !pae
[13:15] <thegoodcushion> KrisDouglas: PAE kernel is default, isn't it?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  its not the default..
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> apparently not in natty, thegoodcushion
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> i think if you install it.. it might become the default. (ive neverr eally tried it)
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> Dr_Willis: cirkey
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> crikey*
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> thank you Dr_Willis
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> How do I know how much RAM it's using?
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> It was the default in 10.
[13:16] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, free -m
[13:16] <KrisDouglas> gnome-system-monitor or free -m
[13:16] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: Looks like I have 3.5 gigs
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> when my puter has 4 gigs installed
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> blimey
[13:17] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, 32bit os?
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> you'd think PAE would be enabled by default
[13:17] <KrisDouglas> thegoodcushion, means the PAE kernel is not loaded.
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: Yeah 32 bit OS on a 64 bit CPU
[13:17] <KrisDouglas> It should be installed by default, it's odd.
[13:17] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, videocard?
[13:17] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: discrete nvidia
[13:17] <tomekh> hi. how do i install _minimall_ set of qt4?
[13:17] <nishttal> does anyone know if there is an issue installing gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04
[13:18] <DJones> thegoodcushion: It might be showing 3.5gb if you've got shared graphics memory, 512Mb may be reserved for the graphics card which reduces the 4gb originally available
[13:18] <thegoodcushion> See, the ubuntu website says you should use the 32-bit version.  If PAE is not enabled by default, I think 64 bits should be pushed harder.  Plenty of people have 4 gigs now
[13:18] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, on 32bit OS part of the address space is used to address devices such as the GPU
[13:18] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, so 3.5 gigs is normal
[13:18] <thegoodcushion> I think it's normal too.  Windows 7 does the same thing
[13:19] <arsenall_> nishttal:  build your own, or install from ppa
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  ive heard/seen benchmarks where the PAE kernel can be slower then the non pae kernel in some cases.
[13:19] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, you should use a 64bit OS if you need the extra 500Mb
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> I use 64bit on all my machines that can do 64bit. :)
[13:19] <thegoodcushion> It claims here that PAE is installed by default on 10.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[13:19] <freakynl> opinions differ on it. basically drivers / hardware can live perfectly in virtual address space. Windows 'steals' the last piece of the memory because of shitty drivers that don't handle it well. That said, some chipset won't present the entire 4G to the OS (say my laptop for example) and thus the OS can not see the full 4G no matter what
[13:20] <zvacet> nishttal:  you can find ppa for gnome3 but installing it will break unity so everyone say that I didn't try
[13:20] <freakynl> opinions on pae differ as well, some say it costs up to 10% performance
[13:20] <xc> Hi! :D
[13:20] <toggles> zvacet: you can try from source, it's not working for me right now, will try a few more times over the next few days to see if git settles a little
[13:21] <nanomad> nishttal, please don't try gnome3 on 11.04. It will break most of the things horribly
[13:21] <thegoodcushion> I would think that plenty of people now have 4 gigs or more of RAM
[13:21] <nishttal> zvacet, nanomad well unity is not working to start with
[13:21] <Technium> After enabling the nvidia driver it booted to a black screen. I'm back on the intel driver. Confused how it worked fine on the LiveCD?
[13:21] <Irani> Can any one suggest a proxy avoidance sw for ubuntu please
[13:21] <xc> Hi guys...can i install KDE on my ubuntu 11.04?
[13:21] <Irani> Any filtershekan?
[13:21] <zvacet> toggles: I never said I want gnome3 I just answered question
[13:21] <nanomad> nishttal, erroro?
[13:21] <arsenall_> xc: yes
[13:21] <nanomad> Technium, uh-oh
[13:21] <thegoodcushion> Does anyone know if 11.04 also installs the PAE kernel if it detects over 3 gig of RAM?
[13:21] <fachher> Hello everybody. I have a problem with my wlan connection.
[13:22] <nanomad> Technium, do you have a laptop?
[13:22] <freakynl> proxy avoidance software? To avoid what? If I make a transparent proxy for example you won't be able to avoid it if you're on my network
[13:22] <fachher> Can anybody help me.
[13:22] <nanomad> fachher, shoot!
[13:22] <arsenall_> if you want plasma desktop, go in synaptik, write kde desktop
[13:22] <toggles> zvacet: fair enough
[13:22] <zvacet> nishttal: did you tried on login screen choose ubuntu classic
[13:22] <Technium> Yes, the new Dell Latitude 6520
[13:22] <nishttal> nanomad, i have 2 x screens.. i see everything only on the main xscreen.. nothing on the 2nd xscreen
[13:22] <botcity> when i install 11.04 it detected the 4gig ram and installed pae
[13:22] <KrisDouglas> I am on 24gb ram
[13:22] <fachher> @nanomad For further details please read http://pastebin.com/zFxFYqN5
[13:22] <nishttal> zvacet, yes and it complained about lots of packages missing
[13:22] <nanomad> Technium, let me guess nvidia+intel with hot switching
[13:23] <rx007> hello guys
[13:23] <adamJ> can anyone help with a KDE install problem on Natty
[13:23] <Technium> Yes... but the LiveCD worked :)
[13:23] <toggles> nishttal: shouldn't break 11.04 http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/install-gnome-shell-from-git-in-ubuntu.html
[13:23] <freakynl> KrisDouglas: 24? what do you do? They call me insane for have 12G in my workstation
[13:23] <nanomad> Technium, with unity?
[13:23] <Pepro> helo
[13:23] <Technium> Yup
[13:23] <Pepro> just installed gnome 3
[13:23] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: I made fresh install of natty and pae was installed by default
[13:23] <nishttal> Pepro, and any issues?
[13:23] <rx007> does anyone have problems with sound after suspend?
[13:23] <toggles> Pepro: better?
[13:23] <Pepro> but tells me could not update .iceAuthorityy
[13:23] <toggles> rm it
[13:23] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: next question : does your uname -a output include the letters pae?
[13:24] <fachher> I can surf through the internet, but when I download something, my connection to the router broke
[13:24] <arsenall_> rx007: no
[13:24] <nanomad> Technium, would you mind running the live cd again and posting some debug info from it (like video driver, modules)?
[13:24] <blackbit> fachher: excess number of simultaneous connections maybe?
[13:24] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: I installed 10.04 on my puter with 4 Gig RAM and I don't have the PAE thing installed.  I'm not sure whose fault that is
[13:24] <Technium> Sure, could you tell me how/what you need?
[13:24] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  I'm not on Ubuntu comp right noe but yes when I boot only options are with pae kernel
[13:25] <thegoodcushion> I bloody knew I should have installed the 64-bit version
[13:25] <nanomad> Technium, just install xchat in the live cd and join back #ubunut
[13:25] <adamJ> is KDE installation currently broken from the Natty repositories?  getting unmet dependencies when attempting to install
[13:25] <Technium> Okay BRB
[13:25] <Pepro> just installed gnome 3
[13:25] <Pepro> but tells me could not update .iceAuthorityy
[13:25] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  we discus thing witch can be solved in min time why
[13:25] <fachher> blackbit did you read this ? http://pastebin.com/zFxFYqN5
[13:25] <Irani> freakynl: it is used to bypass filtering
[13:26] <xc> Irani: what filtering?
[13:26] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: well at least I can download the PAE kernel.  31 megs, here we go
[13:26] <Irani> XC:internet filtering
[13:26] <sploenni> how can I disable unity in 11.04 when I build my own livecd with uck?
[13:27] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: and after installing remove one witch is not pae
[13:27] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: rebooting now, hang on
[13:28] <thegoodcushion> damn it, I shouldn't have to do this manually.  Ubuntu should do it automatically
[13:28] <zvacet> sploenni: I didn't try but maybe if you install with minimal cd you can choose what do you want to add
[13:28] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, not everyone wants PAE
[13:29] <thegoodcushion> Now the PAE kernel won't work with my nvidia drivers
[13:29] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, of course
[13:29] <xc> Irani : With online proxy have you try?
[13:29] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: So what do I do?  Run in text mode?
[13:29] <zvacet> thegoodcushion:  drivers doesn't work with kernel of course install drivers again
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  you may need to reinstall them.  Ive never heard of any PAE/nvidia issues. but i dont use PAE. :)
[13:29] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: does that mean I have to do remove and install?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  how did you install them last time?
[13:30] <thegoodcushion> Dr_Willis: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[13:30] <thegoodcushion> I just did that again and it says they're already installed
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> thegoodcushion:  odd. It should of fixed them as part of the bootup.
[13:30] <sploenni> zvacet: what do you mean with minimal cd? i took the default desktop image and modified it. now i want to replace unity by gnome-classic (for live session as well as for installation). i just don't know where to switch it.
[13:30] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: I will not answer graphic related questions because I know very little about that
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> I thouight that was the whole point of that DKMS stuff.
[13:31] <thegoodcushion> I'll remove and reinstall.  Hang on.
[13:31] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, you could have built the driver manually using dkms ;)
[13:31] <zvacet> sploenni: I can not help you with that one
[13:31] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: Homey don't play that
[13:32] <Technium> Right I've booted into the LiveCD and have Unity
[13:32] <nanomad> Technium, good
[13:32] <sploenni> zvacet: thanks anyway. maybe someone else can...
[13:32] <adamJ> anyone able to help with a kde install problem and unmet dependencies on Ubuntu Natty?
[13:32] <nanomad> Technium, post xdriinfo somewhere
[13:32] <magum_> hi @all
[13:32] <rafii> thegoodcushion: have U tried go to rescue mode in safe graphic mode, and on nvidia drivers in gui with restricted drivers?
[13:32] <zvacet> sploenni:  of course someone will answer your question
[13:33] <sploenni> :)
[13:33] <botcity> !classic | sploenni hope this is what you want?
[13:33] <thegoodcushion> rafii: stand by, I'm trying to fix this
[13:33] <axio> how do i put something->name into a c string?
[13:34] <Pici> axio: Try ##C
[13:34] <olskolirc> Is natty finally released?
[13:34] <thegoodcushion> olskolirc: yes
[13:34] <olskolirc> thanks thegoodcushion
[13:34] <nanomad> !paste > Technium
[13:34] <nishttal> this time i chose Ubuntu classic at login and i see Gnome
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:   when in doubt try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and try reinstalling 'kubuntu-desktop' again.  What package name are you trying to install exactly?
[13:35] <nishttal> however, i see window decorations on only 1 screen
[13:35] <thegoodcushion> Okay, nvidia drivers for my GTX 460 SE do not work with PAE kernel.  Full stop.
[13:35] <nishttal> the other screen windows do not have title bars nor am i able to type in them
[13:35] <nishttal> any clues?
[13:35] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, what's the error?
[13:35] <rafii> i have the similar problem, with fglrx after upgrade 10.10->11.04, system hang on 'checking battery state', and turn on fglrx drivers in gui tool, and work great :) i use PAE kernel
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  whats your video card/chipset?
[13:35] <magum_> Does sb here knows what keyboard config file, window managers such as fluxbox and Awesome are using?
[13:36] <nanomad> nishttal, thegoodcushion: PAE+closed source -> bad thing
[13:36] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, nvidia Quadro NVS 420
[13:36] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: On boot up I get a screen saying drivers gave an error
[13:36] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: tried all of those.  Trying either kde-full, kde-standard and kubuntu-desktop
[13:36] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: all give a long list of unmet dependencies which are all KDE apps and libraries
[13:36] <Vhozard> Hi, is there any torrent client for Ubuntu that can skip hash checking and can add multiple torrents at a time ?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  theres some bugs it seems with Unity and the twinview/multi monitor support. :(
[13:36] <Technium> That immediately solved the issue - its the i965 driver :) Didnt realise that was accelerated enough to run unity
[13:37] <nanomad> Technium, that's how i thought
[13:37] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i am not running unity
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  odd. and you did an apt-get update, and upgrade just a few min ago>
[13:37] <zyrorl> hey guys... i'm having an issue with 11.04... i can barely use it. it's sooooooooooooooooo slow. like constantly freezing, even in gnome safe mode
[13:37] <nanomad> Technium, you cannot use the nvidia card on linux
[13:37] <zyrorl> i had no problem at all with 10.10
[13:37] <nanomad> Technium, unless you play with vga_switcheroo
[13:37] <zyrorl> ultra fast etc.
[13:37] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, nanomad: is there a solution or do i have to roll back
[13:37] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: yes
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  what are you running then?
[13:37] <zyrorl> it seems to be because of the 2.6.38 kernel... if i try to boot using an older kernel its uber fast
[13:38] <zyrorl> does anyone else seem to have experienced this ?
[13:38] <nanomad> nishttal, back you should go
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  Not sure  what else to suggest. perhapas pastebin the error messages for the channel to look at.
[13:38] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i logged out and chose the Ubuntu classic from the login menu
[13:38] <kapu> Aginor: looked into using pax, but, after severl failed attempte I opted to go with the 'dip computer in vat of fuming sulfuric acid' approach
[13:38] <nanomad> nishttal, between us....unity is crap
[13:38] <alumnos_> hello
[13:38] <zyrorl> anyone...
[13:38] <nishttal> nanomad, but i am using Ubuntu classic (gnome)
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  could be its a deeper bug then just with unity then.  You have ran thenvidia-settings tool. enabled twinview and then restarted the X server?
[13:38] <adamJ> anyone able to help with a kde install problem and unmet dependencies on Ubuntu Natty?: not sure what you mean by pastebin
[13:39] <nanomad> nishttal, uh-oh then I must have mixed the answers...forget mine
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin | adamJ
[13:39] <Technium> Sorry lost networking for a sec. xdriinfo output is "Screen 0: i965"
[13:39] <adamJ> sorry for the double post
[13:39] <zyrorl> apparently not
[13:39] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: not sure what youy mean by pastebin
[13:39] <nanomad> Technium, you cannot use nvidia on linux
[13:39] <alumnos> pacoooo!!
[13:39] <alumnos__> a+
[13:39] <nanomad> Technium, with the intel card
[13:39] <thegoodcushion> nanomad: why are you saying that?
[13:39] <alumnos> illo
[13:39] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i have 3 monitors, 1 monitor on 1st xscreen and 2 monitors (with twinview) on 2nd x screen
[13:40] <alumnos> our mother are agrys
[13:40] <nanomad> thegoodcushion, nvidia+intel+how switching = nvidia driver not working
[13:40] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i had the same issue with 10.10 and then someone here made me run a window decorator and that fixed it
[13:40] <alumnos_> ijosedeputa
[13:40] <thegoodcushion> ok
[13:40] <alumnos__> chino godo
[13:40] <alumnos_> tu madre
[13:40] <rafii> zyrorl: you tried turn off "sync with Vblank" in compiz-config in OpenGL section?
[13:40] <Technium> Okay. Why isn't the i965 being configured by default when I install?
[13:40] <Pici> wii alumnos__
[13:40] <bazhang> alumnos_, english here
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  we had a disscussion here the other day on  nvidia and 3 monitors. :)  but i havent done 3 moniotors in ages.  Sounds like its a twinview+compiz deeper issue. perhaps disable compiz?
[13:40] <nanomad> Technium, maybe xorg is freaking out because he sees two cards
[13:41] <nanomad> Technium, u should try this: Technium, if you are
[13:41] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, i dont think compiz is running
[13:41] <nanomad> Technium, this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[13:41] <rafii> zyrorl: and you can turn off "animations", gui will be faster
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  try alt-f2 'metacity --replace' and check perhaps.
[13:42] <Technium> Thanks for the link. I'm happy sticking with the i965, but I'm confused why that wasn't selected once I installed as it was when I booted the LiveCD.
[13:42] <perlsyntax> doesanyone know how i can what wireless card my dad has on ubuntu live cd?
[13:43] <nanomad> Technium, which model do you have exactly of laptop?
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i try the pci commands
[13:43] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: link to error http://pastebin.com/bA9ccb4M
[13:43] <nanomad> perlsyntax, lspci from terminal
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i did that
[13:43] <Technium> Dell Latitude 6520, new i7
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i see no wireless card.
[13:43] <nanomad> perlsyntax, output?
[13:43] <thegoodcushion> Okay, I just cannot get nvidia drivers working with PAE kernel
[13:43] <Technium> Sorry, E6520
[13:43] <perlsyntax> i don't have it online.
[13:44] <vanguard> I just enabled the compiz-cubes, I can drag winows around, but the windows in the taskbar are not refreshed anymore
[13:44] <perlsyntax> i think it broandcom wireless card.
[13:44] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i annot connect what shoukd I do
[13:45] <nanomad> perlsyntax, what's the problem? no drivers installed?
[13:45] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: adding all the depends gives the following: http://pastebin.com/8SPTPXBE
[13:45] <thegoodcushion> I wish there were an option to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit distro
[13:45] <deerfield> good morning all, I'm using 11.04 and IDE Aptana 2. I don't like Aptana and I'm looking for alternative. Any suggestions on something I can access my remote site with?
[13:45] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB wireless Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i annot connect what shoukd I do
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  you have done a 'sudo apt-get update' recently AND a sudo apt-get upgrade?
[13:45] <perlsyntax> the ubuntu cd work but the wireles card won't.
[13:45] <spacebug-> is there a package to uninstall or a config to make to always have scrollbars visible?
[13:45] <edbian> perlsyntax: Did you install Ubuntu yet?
[13:46] <sipior> thegoodcushion: if you have a separate home or data partition, a reinstall wouldn't take you very long.
[13:46] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: yes, from both synaptic and command line
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> spacebug-:  i saw a tweak to do that at the webupd8 blog site.
[13:46] <[4-tea-2]> Can Unity's dash search for anything but applications? If yes, how can I tell it where the stuff is that it refuses to go looking for?
[13:46] <thegoodcushion> sipior: Yeah I guess so
[13:46] <perlsyntax> no i just put in the live cd.
[13:46] <thegoodcushion> Well if I want to use all 4 gigs of RAM I have to
[13:46] <spacebug-> Dr_Willis: ok tnx, I'll look there
[13:46] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Network Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i annot connect what shoukd I do
[13:47] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, metacity replace fixes the issue
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> [4-tea-2]:  the files-and-folders lense has    file searxch feature it seems.
[13:47] <raju> BOBBY_:  i think u need to leave the password box as empty
[13:47] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:47] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, but i did not get the prompt back
[13:47] <root_> did any one have xchat(ubuntu) desktop-screenshot script?
[13:48] <[4-tea-2]> Dr_Willis: no tracker/beagle like functionality anywhere?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  you dident use a & at the end. :)
[13:48] <botcity> BOBBY_, there must be a pop up with error message?
[13:48] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, and if i kill it, both screens go bad
[13:48] <BOBBY_> raju it asked for a security key not an access password
[13:48] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, do i have to do that everytime i login?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  try ctrl-z tjhen the bg command, then exit command.. DONT just hit the terminal close button
[13:48] <BOBBY_> No it just shows i bar signal then 2 then 3
[13:48] <raju> BOBBY_:  are u using kubuntu or ubuntu
[13:48] <BOBBY_> ubuntu
[13:48] <BOBBY_> 11.04
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  install fusion-icon  and check it to use metacity. but i think metacity --replace, should be rembered
[13:48] <perlsyntax> I not sure what to do.
[13:48] <root_> .
[13:49] <happolati> Anyone know why blackjack is no longer part of the gnome-games package?
[13:49] <raju> enter u r root password
[13:49] <perlsyntax> esbian,Is there any other way.
[13:49] <raju> BOBBY_: enter u r root pwd
[13:49] <edbian> perlsyntax: Have you installed Ubuntu?
[13:49] <BOBBY_> whats a root password
[13:49] <moi> hello room
[13:49] <[4-tea-2]> Hmmmm, the files and folder search only seems to know about selected documents - I guess that's what Zeitgeist does. I thought Zeitgeist was something like beagle.
[13:49] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, so i cant use compiz on this
[13:49] <nishttal> Dr_Willis, it was working great on 10.10
[13:49] <zombified> hello all
[13:50] <perlsyntax> edbian,i don't want to install ubuntu yet to i know what wireless card he has.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  I would have to wonder if your /etc/apt/sources.list is messed up. or somthing is missing to not show those packages.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> nishttal:  no idea. there may be some tweak.
[13:50] <edbian> perlsyntax: Who is 'he' ?
[13:50] <perlsyntax> my ad
[13:50] <perlsyntax> my dad all he want is the wirelesscard to work.
[13:50] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: I am wondering the same, generating a defaults one at the moment
[13:50] <edbian> perlsyntax: Do you know the chipset of the card?
[13:50] <zombified> anyone here know how to install .exe files on backtrack4?
[13:50] <perlsyntax> no i don't
[13:51] <bazhang> zombified, #backtrack-linux for bt4 support
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> zombified:  you run exes in wine. with wine.. :)
[13:51] <moi> i have a problem with my sound card i get no sound at all on my laptop and when i probe it could not detedt my sound card i use dv artist edition hp laptop
[13:51] <perlsyntax> i did a lspci with the live cd everything show up by the wireless card.
[13:51] <zombified> lol ok
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> zombified:  and see  the BT channel :)
[13:51] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:51] <raju> BOBBY_:  yaar u r sudo password
[13:51] <edbian> perlsyntax: Please start your sentences with my name like I"m doing for you.
[13:51] <edbian> perlsyntax: Is the kill switch on / off?  That would cause it not to show up in lspci.
[13:51] <Spiso> hey, I'm trying to set my screen refresh rate to 75Hz on Lucid 10.04
[13:51] <Spiso> there is no xorg.conf as I found out so I created one with
[13:52] <Spiso> Xorg -configure
[13:52] <Spiso> it did create it with SubSection "Display" Modes "1920x1080_75"
[13:52] <Spiso> it put the .xorg.conf into my home folder, so I copied it as xorg.conf to /etx/X11
[13:52] <FloodBot1> Spiso: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <Spiso> but it doesn't work still, the only options in Monitors=>Refresh rate is 60Hz
[13:52] <bazhang> raju, thats not correct. please stop suggesting that
[13:52] <BOBBY_> raju: ???
[13:52] <Blou_Aap> how do I configure the panels in 11.04 ?
[13:52] <perlsyntax> edbian,How do i do that?
[13:52] <bazhang> BOBBY_, use sudo , ignore raju
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Blou_Aap:  other t hen some tweaking . you dont configure unity a lot.
[13:52] <edbian> perlsyntax: Does the laptop have a physical wifi switch?  Do you know what I'm talking about?
[13:52] <moi> my name is moi i have a problem with my sound card i get no sound at all on my laptop and when i probe it could not detedt my sound card i use dv artist edition hp laptop
[13:52] <alkemann> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/774452   - is this fix available?
[13:53] <perlsyntax> i check
[13:53] <BOBBY_> bazhang :: whats sudo ???
[13:53] <raju> BOBBY_:  follow him ...genuinely i dont know  much about this , but i am trying thats it . dont mind yaar
[13:53] <Blou_Aap> Dr_Willis, but I have dual screen, dont want two panels
[13:53] <bazhang> !sudo | BOBBY_
[13:54] <alkemann> BOBBY_: su means super user and do means to do. sudo means do as super user
[13:54] <botcity> BOBBY_, i think its asking for your keyring password
[13:54] <Strav> Hi. I'm trying to mount an ext4 raid5 array as a samba share but I cannot seem to be able to get write permissions from the client side (sudo is needed for any write op). In smb.conf, the create mask is 0775, the share is browseable and writeable, the user I use to connect with is in the valid users as well as in the write list and the command I'm using to mount is sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=strav,password=mypassword,umask=000
[13:54] <Strav> //192.168.0.150/share /mnt. I tried chmoding 777 all of the mounted share, no success. Any advice?
[13:55] <perlsyntax> edbian,There a light by the side of the laptop.Could that be it
[13:55] <BOBBY_> botcity: No its security key
[13:55] <edbian> perlsyntax: Well I'm guessing a light would indicate that the card is on.
[13:55] <kapu> exit
[13:55] <edbian> perlsyntax: But that could be it.  What kind of laptop is this?
[13:55] <perlsyntax> edbian,HP
[13:55] <edbian> perlsyntax: hp what?
[13:55] <perlsyntax> laptop
[13:55] <BOBBY_> it says "authenticiation required by wireless network
[13:56] <edbian> perlsyntax: really...
[13:56] <BOBBY_> [13:47] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:56] <alkemann> how do i get something when pecl doesnt work on natty?
[13:56] <zamba> how do i install the windows codecs for mplayer in 11.04?
[13:56] <catphish> is it possible to change the default ethernet bonding mode in 10.04 server? i am having a lot of problems with the reliability of setting the bonding mode using the interfaces config file
[13:56] <bazhang> zamba, ubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs from medibuntu.org
[13:57] <BOBBY_> Hello I have a USB Wireless Dongle in the computer and I have used the built in tool in the top right to connect to my network it asked for the password but then the connection indicator flashes 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and i cannot connect what should I do
[13:57] <bazhang> BOBBY_, its the wireless password; is this wep, wpa, wpa2 or what
[13:57] <zamba> bazhang: ok, let's try
[13:57] <raju> BOBBY_:  capture the screen shot and send to him ...he can understand better ...use print screen for that
[13:58] <perlsyntax> edian,HP Pavilon dv2125nr
[13:58] <BOBBY_> bazhang:WPA2
[13:58] <edbian> perlsyntax: Typo on my name bro
[13:58] <bazhang> BOBBY_, enter the wpa2 password then
[13:58] <BOBBY_> I entered the password
[13:59] <BOBBY_> It still shows the flashing indicator
[13:59] <bazhang> BOBBY_, be sure you typed it correctly, disable keyboard repeat in keyboard settings
[13:59] <BOBBY_> OK
[13:59] <perlsyntax> edbian,Here what i found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=334992
[14:00] <Cerdabr> is there a chatroom for wine ??
[14:00] <LjL> Cerdabr: #winehq
[14:00] <Cerdabr> LjL: ty
[14:01] <perlsyntax> edbian,Look like it broadcom driver
[14:01] <[4-tea-2]> I'm using Firefox 4 (mozillateam-PPA) and lost flash audio since upgrading from maverick to natty (which reintroduced pulseaudio to my system). Is there a standard workaround for flash + pulse or is it just supposed to work?
[14:01] <edbian> perlsyntax: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[14:01] <BOBBY_> bazhang: IT WORKS
[14:01] <bazhang> BOBBY_, good news then
[14:02] <BOBBY_> Thanks Thanks Thanks Thanks Thanks
[14:02] <edbian> bazhang: I hate when they're so surprised!  Don't they have any faith at all?
[14:02] <bazhang> edbian, heh
[14:02] <zamba> how do i automatically roll out a printer driver using ubuntu and cups?
[14:02] <BOBBY_> Now to get bluetooth working
[14:02] <zamba> this will be for windows machines
[14:03] <bazhang> zamba, whats the printer, check linuxprinting.org database
[14:03] <cyoz> hmm any way to keep a symbol to a folder on the unity bar?
[14:03] <gare> good morning!!  so .. This link is dead for http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt  for ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent  .  IS there a netbook edition any longer?  (Thank you for any help.)
[14:03] <sim-value> Does unity work w/o 3D accell ?
[14:03] <zamba> bazhang: it's supported there, yeah
[14:03] <zamba> bazhang: xerox workcentre
[14:03] <himcesjf> Can anyone help me configure vmpk
[14:03] <himcesjf> !info vmpk
[14:03] <vega> gare: no there isn't, it's the same as normal ubuntu
[14:04] <bazhang> sim-value, unity-2d is the package you'd want for that
[14:04] <gare> cool vega.  Thanks.  so perhaps someone will remove that link from page.
[14:04] <edbian> perlsyntax: You'll have to be connected to the Internet in some other way of course
[14:05] <sim-value> bazhang, so a standard install of natty will suceed and not give errors
[14:05] <perlsyntax> edbian,Eth0 works in linux:)
[14:05] <edbian> perlsyntax: Well there ya go :)
[14:05] <alkemann> how do i get the recent pecl fix?
[14:05] <bazhang> sim-value, if you dont have the card gnome classic should be default, if you want the unity look without 3d accell then install the unity-2d package
[14:06] <perlsyntax> edbian,All i need to install is firmware b43-installer?
[14:06] <sim-value> bazhang thanks!
[14:06] <Technium> I think I need to enable the i965 drivers to enable Unity on this laptop can't figure out how
[14:06] <Vhozard> Hi, is there any torrent client for Ubuntu that can skip hash checking and can add multiple torrents at a time ?
[14:06] <edbian> perlsyntax: I believe so yes.
[14:06] <bazhang> Technium, for an nvidia card?
[14:06] <Technium> No, there's both in here and the LiveCD works with Unity using the i965 driver
[14:07] <perlsyntax> edbian,That in the apt-get and thanksor the help.
[14:07] <edbian> perlsyntax: Well do it and make sure it works! :D
[14:07] <bazhang> Technium, whats the card
[14:07] <Technium> Its a laptop so not sure exactly
[14:08] <adamJ> Dr_Willis: KDE now installing.  Not really sure what was wrong with my repository list, but a reset to the defauls has resolved the issue.  Strange as it was just the one left by the install anyway
[14:08] <bazhang> Technium, lspci to paste.ubuntu.com (from the terminal)
[14:09] <Technium> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602759/
[14:09] <perlsyntax> edbian,i praying for it to work.
[14:10] <edbian> perlsyntax: Did you install it using that command?  Did that command give any errors?
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> adamJ:  weirdness. :)
[14:10] <himcesjf> Can anyone help me configure vmpk?
[14:10] <himcesjf> !info vmpk
[14:12] <Technium> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/602759/
[14:13] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1726575 Technium there's a PPA for that, also see if you can disable Optimus in the bios
[14:14] <Technium> bazhang: thanks, i'll look into that
[14:14] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/ubuntu-x-swat?dist=natty  Technium this is the PPA
[14:14] <ericP> after upgrading to 11.04, how do i set e.g. the layout of virtual desktops?
[14:15] <ericP> my familiar compiz environment has been replaced by something that looks like a darwin desktop
[14:15] <andeeeuk> does anyone know how to remove history in 11.04?
[14:15] <andeeeuk> and not keep folder history?
[14:16] <andeeeuk> the menu shows files and folders and i dont want to show all my history
[14:16] <Technium> bazhang, id be happy sticking with the intel driver as that seemed to work fine on the LiveCD and I don't tend to need 3d... is that easier?
[14:18] <vivid> is there a fix for grub/plymouth with nvidia on 11.04?  grub is stuck in fail mode and wont autoboot and plymouth is a black screen
[14:19] <spacebug-> Dr_Willis: tnx I found many things I wanted on that site
[14:19] <Wipster> Hi all, recently since upgrading my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 (Xserver 1.10.1) I am getting some X crashes and restarts surrounding web browsing (coincidence perhaps) here is a copy of my Xorg.0.log.old from the backtrace: http://pastebin.com/Jyr9WXhp
[14:19] <gare> What are odds that 11.04 unity will not run on my original 9" Dell Mini ? ..   :)
[14:20] <bazhang> Technium, well if you want gnome-classic choose that from the login window, if you want non3d unity install the unity-2d package and select that at login window
[14:20] <andeeeuk> Is there a way to clear history in 11.04?
[14:21] <Technium> bazhang - I had Unity working on LiveCD without doing anything - it used the i965
[14:21] <g3orge> why 04 and 10 versions??
[14:21] <g3orge> why not .01 .02 .03 etc
[14:21] <g3orge> ???
[14:21] <Technium> bazhang - I'd like to get that working now I've installed
[14:21] <mstef> anyone else experiencing tons of problems with dual screen? i was hoping it would be fixed in 11.04. seems much worse, especially with unity.
[14:21] <vivid> mstef, yes
[14:22] <vivid> second screen has no window manager for me and is unusable
[14:22] <gare> g3eorge:  named after Year:Month of release so 11.04
[14:22] <gare> g3orge:  named after Year:Month of release so 11.04
[14:22] <Abhijit> hi
[14:22] <dp> is there a way to see *when* a package was installed?
[14:22] <andeeeuk> has anyone been able to clear there history from the menu? something quite simple but cant find where to do it?
[14:22] <trap24> for the 1st time as I login, its 1720 users, ubuntu rockin' at peak today
[14:22] <mstef> vivid: yea.. i'm getting 8 workspaces now..and windows are being sent to each of them automatically.. maximized windows get cut off and you can't see the top of them, etc
[14:22] <mstef> ah
[14:22] <constl> mstef: It worked for me but gave me a bit of trouble at the beginning
[14:23] <gare> andeeeuk:  what history are your referring to?
[14:23] <mstef> my problem with 10.10 was that if you disabled the external monitor, they both went blank..and you had to reboot
[14:23] <Sik> Hello, does anybody know if there's any known fix for video issues with 11.04? I'm tired of booting in safe mode... Not even the VESA drivers work properly! (and in text mode Ubuntu loads garbage instead of the charset) :|
[14:23] <stimpie> somebody knows a util to unzip a zlib file?
[14:23] <vivid> anyone know a fix for broken grub and plymouth with nvidia drivers in 11.04?
[14:23] <edbian> Sik: card?
[14:23] <g3orge> wow
[14:23] <Sik> edbian: GeForce 7300 GS
[14:23] <andeeeuk> gare the history from the menu
[14:23] <gnuskool> Hi, I recently upgraded to 11.04, the top gnome-panel has text, but it is black ---so is the bar. How do I change text or bar color?
[14:23] <edbian> Sik: Did you turn on nomodeset  ?
[14:23] <Abhijit> stimpie, install 7zip
[14:24] <Sik> edbian: what's that? (so no :P)
[14:24] <andeeeuk> gare where you search at the top?
[14:24] <knifepoint> andeeeuk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29559/how-can-i-keep-recent-files-from-appearing-in-unity
[14:24] <mbeierl> anyone know how to boot the natty iso from grub2?  I've tried unetbootin and manually entering it into grub2 and both give me errors about loading the kernel first
[14:24] <stimpie> gnuskool: system settings -> appearance
[14:24] <gare> andeeeuk: you are using 11.04 ?   Unity desktop?
[14:25] <andeeeuk> knifepoint thanks
[14:25] <edbian> Sik: Follow this guide to do it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[14:25] <andeeeuk> yes it is unity
[14:25] <knifepoint> oh yeah good point gare I just made an assumption
[14:25] <edbian> Sik: Scroll down to the bit that says 'how to permanently set kernel boot options on an install os (not wubi)
[14:25] <researcher123> I deleted earlier user account but preserved its home folder.I want to give full acess to the new user to the Home folder of earlier deleted user
[14:25] <edbian> Sik: It's in the first post.
[14:25] <Sik> edbian: checking. Though it depends, sometimes it crashes at the console, sometimes it works fine until after the login screen (then X hangs)
[14:26] <edbian> Sik: Try nomodeset.  It is a very common solution :)
[14:26] <Sik> Um, I should check the acpi stuff too, since in the Xorg logs it also complained about ACPI
[14:26] <Sik> Will try nomodeset first though :P
[14:26] <gare> files & folders. cool thanks knifepoint
[14:27] <edbian> Sik: ok
[14:27] <red> Anyone using Google Chrome with Natty and has chromes own minime\max\close buttons
[14:27] <andeeeuk> knifepoint that seems to be for 10.10
[14:27] <red> if I click "use OS menu bar" i get double ubuntu buttons
[14:28] <xsinick_laptop> I head gnome3 is ever worst than unity
[14:28] <andeeeuk> will that remove it from the the "files and folder" in the menu?
[14:28] <stimpie> xsinick_laptop: that must be awful then ;-)
[14:28] <andeeeuk> dont install gnome3 at all!!!! it is a state WARNING!!! :p
[14:28] <mstef> anyone use qutecom? unity won't let me dock it..wonder why
[14:29] <ratcheer> xsinick_laptop: I like Gnome3 much better than Unity. I tried to like Unity, but I couldn't.
[14:29] <ramvi> What files redirect my traffic? I try to enter some.domain.com, but I'm redirected to my server. I can see it doing a traceroute. I've checked /etc/hosts but it dosn't contain any info about some.domain.com
[14:29] <andeeeuk> gnome3 destroys everything if you are not careful
[14:30] <ratcheer> andeeeuk: In what way does it destroy things. I am only having trouble with my Firefox appl icon turning generic.
[14:32] <acon543> is there an application which find urls for video streams
[14:33] <Lectus> Hello! I installed python 2.7 on Ubuntu 10.10. How can I make it my default python instead of 2.6 without upgrading the distribution to 11.04?
[14:33] <gare> acon543:  streamripper
[14:33] <gnuskool> stimpie: no, tried that, you can customize a theme...but no option to change the colour of the panel
[14:33] <r0hit> acon543: DownloadHelper, ffox addon
[14:34] <gnuskool> stimpie: or text appearing on that panel
[14:34] <andeeeuk> ratcheer, well i did upgrade from unity but it destory everything i couldnt log into gnome - unity and gnome3 was not working as it should do
[14:34] <gnuskool> stimpie: infact, there is no control that has anything to do with the gnome panel that I can see
[14:34] <andeeeuk> rubbish all i can say :s
[14:34] <op_amp> I upgraded to Natty but I am unable to log in. It gave some error - unable to load kernel (fail) and Start error log(fail). Rest process were Ok.
[14:35] <stimpie> gnuskool: It does  take the color belonging to the theme?
[14:35] <ratcheer> andeeeuk: How did you upgrade?
[14:35] <trap24> well, why the Firefox in Ubuntu suddenly is with so low quality image rendering :? :/
[14:35] <op_amp> currently I logged in after going in recovery and load in low graphic mode(don't remember exactly)
[14:35] <andeeeuk> ratcheer i upgraded from the repository
[14:35] <Maimster> How's everyone doing?
[14:35] <andeeeuk> ratcheer, not the best was to do it but was so shocked
[14:36] <rob_p> Maimster: Awesome!  How about you? :)
[14:36] <Maimster> Nothing to complain about so pretty good.
[14:36] <josip> Hello, I installed Uubntu 11.04 and when I start  awesome the only thing I see is a background
[14:36] <josip> anyone with an idea what causes this?
[14:37] <karthick87> How to install shockwave player in ubuntu 10.10 ?
[14:37] <Maimster> rob_p: You ubuntu treating you well?
[14:37] <rob_p> Maimster: Good to hear!  I'm just winding down at work, hoping to pack my things up and head home in the next hour or so!
[14:37] <edbian> josip: press alt + sysRequest + K to log out.  CLick you name, change the session, log in
[14:37] <zhenbeiju55> ?
[14:37] <rob_p> Maimster: Yeah, Ubuntu's been very good to me thus far!
[14:37] <sss314> How can I make a Start Up USB with non-Ubuntu ISO?
[14:37] <zhenbeiju55> test
[14:38] <Maimster> rob_p: Excellent! I just started my workday!! 8 hours to go.
[14:38] <josip> edbian: I want to fix the problem, not to log in with a differnet wm
[14:38] <ratcheer> andeeeuk: Sorry that happened to you. I've upgraded two systems to Gnome3 from PPA with only a couple of small problems.
[14:38] <mitoni> Any idea how to install unity on archlinux? Their package at AUR is outdated.
[14:38] <rob_p> Maimster: What do you do?
[14:38] <aeon-ltd> !shockwave | karthick87
[14:38] <Maimster> rob_p: Computer repair, nothing special.
[14:38] <edbian> josip: Try the other ones.  I suspect you choose 'netbook edition 2nd' or something that should not be there.  Additionally, just see if any of them work
[14:38] <andeeeuk> ratcheer, good stuff. Does look good but going to wait till it is stable in ubuntu
[14:38] <karthick87> aeon-ltd: Thank you
[14:39] <josip> edbian: no, I am running the 64bit 11.04 Ubuntu. I installed awesome from the official ubuntu repositories
[14:39] <josip> and I don't want to try other ones, I want awesome to work
[14:39] <trap24> how to make pidgin the default msging application in ubuntu LTS
[14:39] <aeon-ltd> karthick87: heh there is better stuff on the web. maybe one day we can have no proprietry plugins
[14:39] <rohan> i read somewhere that "You can now upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 using the Live CD" -- can someone tell me how this works?
[14:39] <trap24> the empathy simply sucks in IRC
[14:39] <rob_p> Maimster: Ahh well, that sounds interesting!
[14:39] <edbian> josip: Awesome is causing the blank screen?  Does it have the awesome bar?
[14:39] <andeeeuk> when you search for files from the menu, then click on the file. How can you get it to open with the correct application as this does not work at all?
[14:40] <josip> edbian: nope
[14:40] <andeeeuk> any help appreciated
[14:40] <Maimster> rob_p: Yeah I talked some of the local businesses in the area to use me for their IT needs.
[14:40] <Zeeofu> How do I enable desktop effects in ubuntu 11.04?
[14:40] <josip> I suspect it has soemthing to do with unity. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/731329
[14:40] <josip> but the workarouind propsosed there didn't work for me
[14:40] <phalcore> join ubuntu-pl
[14:41] <edbian> josip: I haven't used awesome in a long time.  Do you have to configure it before you use it?
[14:41] <phalcore> lol sry
[14:41] <aeon-ltd> !compiz | Zeeofu
[14:41] <r0hit> Zeeofu, install compiz-plugins and compizconfig-settings-manager from synaptic
[14:41] <Moopz> So, I've been searching but can't find an answer. Is it possible to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 directly without upgrading to 10.10? And would upgrading affect anything on my computer, i.e. break something?
[14:41] <josip> edbian: I'm using my config file that used to work perfectly fine uuntil I upgraded
[14:41] <botcity> rohan, you mean upgrade if you have not got internet access
[14:41] <rob_p> Maimster: That's great...created your own job!  I did that once.  Worked out well for a year or two and then moved on to other things.
[14:42] <Pici> Moopz: No. You must go through intermediary versions. The only time this isn't the case is when you are upgrading from one LTS release to the next, and 11.04 is not an LTS.
[14:42] <Zeeofu> ubottu, is there any default program, there used to be one in ubuntu 10.10
[14:42] <sss314> How can I make non-Ubutntu bootable CD?
[14:42] <Zeeofu> is there any default program, there used to be one in ubuntu 10.10
[14:42] <rohan> botcity: well, i am in interested in the technical side of how a livecd upgrade was implemented.
[14:42] <Moopz> Pici, oh? I thought all xx.04 versions were LTS?
[14:42] <andeeeuk> when clicking on file from menu in unity it trys to open the location though as it is a file it fails to open
[14:42] <edbian> josip: I'm not sure then.  No experience with this.  My advice is to look around for somebody that has had the same problem and then try a default config file (back yours up obviously).
[14:42] <Maimster> rob_p: lol, nice. I'm working on my 8th year.
[14:42] <andeeeuk> anyone know why this is?
[14:42] <thiebaude> !lts
[14:43] <aeon-ltd> Zeeofu: compiz is the default one
[14:43] <rob_p> Maimster: Anyway, we're going to get yelled at for visiting and not talking strictly Ubuntu support, so we probably better get back on topic, hehe! :)
[14:43] <Moopz> Pici, any idea when the next LTS version is coming then?
[14:43] <Maimster> rob_p: Oops. ttly!!
[14:43] <bazhang> Moopz, 12.04
[14:43] <Zeeofu> aeon-ltd, thanks
[14:43] <edouard_lopez> hi there, I got a bash snippet running a python script that got stuck<
[14:43] <edouard_lopez> the bash script is in the 'do_wait' state after an ethernet shutdown. How could I resume it ?
[14:43] <Zeeofu> !compiz
[14:44] <tomek__> Siema
[14:44] <bazhang> !pl | tomek__
[14:44] <rob_p> Maimster: I'm also in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <w00tw00tw00t> hi, i have a 2nd hdd and i wanna transfer my ubuntu installation onto it. i recreated all the partitions and copied all the files over. i set the boot flag of the boot parition on. yet, it can't boot. any ideas?
[14:45] <tomek__> wie ktos moze jak skonfigurowac wine bym mial wiecej fps w World of Warcraft( teraz mam ok 20)
[14:45] <r0hit> w00tw00tw00t, install grub on the new HDD partition
[14:45] <bazhang> tomek__, #ubuntu-pl
[14:45] <w00tw00tw00t> will it auto create fstab?
[14:45] <w00tw00tw00t> i think the UUIDs will be all different...
[14:45] <r0hit> w00tw00tw00t, no, you'll have to update that yourself as well
[14:45] <r0hit> yes
[14:46] <w00tw00tw00t> grub2, is it?
[14:46] <gnuskool> stimpie: had to change theme entirely to get anything, thx for your help
[14:46] <damiano546> hello
[14:46] <botcity> rohan, not sure about that but i bet google knows :)
[14:46] <r0hit> w00tw00tw00t, :)
[14:47] <gnuskool> Is there a button or something to clear the screen to desktop?
[14:47] <rohan> botcity: i'm trying to find but i can't :)
 + D
[14:47] <aeon-ltd> gnuskool: theres a button you can add to gnome panel to do that
[14:48]  * vibhav is ready to help others!!
[14:48] <gnuskool> aeon-ltd: thx
[14:48] <botcity> rohan, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572819 its an old thred though
[14:48]  * vibhav is looking if anybody is having a problem!
[14:48] <aeon-ltd> gnuskool: heh you should thank stimpie first :)
[14:48] <rohan> botcity: ty :)
[14:48] <gnuskool> vibhav: lol, shouldnt be too hard to find someone
[14:49]  * rob_p thanks vibhav for being available... and announcing it! :)
[14:49] <vibhav> You are welcome rob_p do you have any problem?
[14:49] <Sik> Well, nomodeset doesn't work!
[14:49] <gnuskool> aeon-ltd: I did just before :D
[14:50] <waldir> does the update to natty change the location of X11 libs? I have a software package whose build is breaking for not finding some X11 libs (/usr/lib/libSM.so, /usr/lib/libICE.so, etc.)
[14:50] <Jessica175> Hi All.  anyone tried putting VMware on U11?
[14:50] <Sik> Stupid question, what does vt.handoff=7 in the argument list do? (curious)
[14:50] <damiano546> i have a chroot env...i have to create some hard links...my question is: the user that will use the chroot env can follow this hardlink and do some changes at the system? if i create an hardlink to /etc/resolv.conf the user can change it? is better to copy or hardlinks? mi have many chroot ....
[14:50] <acon543> r0hit: in that DownloadHelper my site is not in supported list, do you know other applications
[14:50] <w00tw00tw00t> shucks, i read the ubuntu docs but i cant get info to install grub2 onto my new hdd. grub-install /dev/sdb ???
[14:50] <rob_p> vibhav: Hmm...let me think...Nope!  But if I think long enough, I'm sure I can come up with *something*!
 I use Virtual Box , its better than VMWare
[14:50] <stimpie> Sik: places X on tty7
[14:50] <Jessica175> vibhav, really?  why is that?
 Then thin kbaby think!
[14:50] <Sik> OK... yet I get it with Ctrl+Alt+F1 >.>' Eh, whatever
[14:51] <rob_p> vibhav: Haha...yeah! :)
[14:51] <r0hit> acon543, it works for flash videos on _most_  sites regardless
[14:51] <stimpie> Sik: exactly
  Cause VirtualBox is just better
[14:51] <gnuskool> Jessica175: made by sun/oracle ...open source ...erm its open source
[14:51] <Sik> stimpie: wouldn't that be Ctrl+Alt+F7 for terminal #7?
 Yeah ! Ubuntu is for Open Source
[14:52] <rob_p> Jessica175: I've had great success with vmware server on some of the older Ubuntu LTS's.
[14:52] <Vhozard> hmm, how can I add things to ma ubuntu panel?
[14:52] <Jessica175> Yeah, I hear ya.  But why?  I have vmware on a XP box and it works great.
[14:52] <stimpie> virtualbox is good but not better then vmware
[14:52] <r0hit> btw is OpenGL supported in vmware player?
 I dont think so
[14:52] <rob_p> Jessica175: I also run vmware fusion on my Macs and it's a dream!
[14:53] <rob_p> Jessica175: So my opinion is that vmware is quite good!
[14:53] <Jessica175> ok, ok.  I understand the opensource argument, but I'm an RN and I don't have the time to learn a new app if the one I already know works fine.
[14:53] <r0hit> vibhav, ahhh and then we have a winner! atleast for the average joe users ;)
[14:53] <sss314> How do I burn non-Ubuntu ISO images to USB stick?
[14:53] <vibhav> r0hit = lol
[14:53] <Abhijit> sss314, unetbootin
[14:53] <haitham> Hi, how can i install an earlier version for an application? I'm trying to Install skype (latest version doesn't work w/ my laptop) but I read on forums that earlier versions worked just fine, but the website shows only the latest version (2.2 BETA) is there like a code option on apt-get to define the version?
[14:54] <stimpie> Jessica175:  I tried vmware on a beta, it ran fine. Just stick to vmware if you like it
[14:54] <Abhijit> sss314, if its operating system iso that is.
[14:54] <sss314> Abhijit, ok I'll try that
[14:54] <Jessica175> I want to run a VM w/ microXP or tinyXP so I can watch netflix on that box.  I had probs getting it running on 10.10.  I've just loaded 11 and wanted some tips before trying again.
[14:54] <damiano546> ??
[14:55] <damiano546> i have a chroot env...i have to create some hard links...my question is: the user that will use the chroot env can follow this hardlink and do some changes at the system? if i create an hardlink to /etc/resolv.conf the user can change it? is better to copy or hardlinks? i have around 40-50 chroot ENVs
[14:55] <compdoc> netflix doesnt work on ubuntu?
[14:55] <Jessica175> nope
[14:55] <Jessica175> bastards
[14:55] <waldir> Hi all. does anyone know whether the Ubuntu update to natty changes the location of X11 libs? I have a software package whose build is breaking for not finding some X11 libs (/usr/lib/libSM.so, /usr/lib/libICE.so, etc.)
 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCkQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZuyPJFhVTxQ&rct=j&q=netflix%20ubuntu&ei=ZwnATcawEtHOrQfioYXfAw&usg=AFQjCNEXXf95bUghXyffYFe2TPJHDPz-Fg&cad=rja
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuyPJFhVTxQ
[14:56] <compdoc> sadly, running a VM doesnt do any better, since you have to use vnc to connect to it. Theres something called the SPICE protocol that is supposed to work much better
[14:56] <shiftmonkeyking> join #kohana
[14:56] <haitham> Hi, how can i install an earlier version for an application? I'm trying to Install skype (latest version doesn't work w/ my laptop) but I read on forums that earlier versions worked just fine, but the website shows only the latest version (2.2 BETA) is there like a code option on apt-get to define the version?
[14:56] <shiftmonkeyking> #kohana
[14:56] <Jessica175> thx for the link vib
 No prob!
[14:57] <jatt> !pinning
[14:57] <Jessica175> compdoc, no... I'll use the vm from the console
[14:57] <mrcreativity> can someone please tell me why the desktopnova indicator doesnt show in unity?
[14:57] <compdoc> Jessica175, it still connects with vnc
[14:58] <Sik> "[    17.370] (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) " <-- What does this mean? It's in my X logs >.>'
[14:58] <damiano546> nobody could help me?
[14:58] <teb2> Anyone here have any idea why the installer front for ubuntu 10.4 and 11.4 just blinks/flashes when i select "install on harddisk) Its a HP DL380g7
[14:58] <Jessica175> do you mean that the console connects to the VM via VNC?
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> mrcreativity:  theres a whitelist/blacklist of what apps can show up as indicator applets.  could be  you need to mess with that list.
[14:59] <Vhozard> so there is no way to add applets to the Ubuntu panel ??
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> mrcreativity:  check http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[14:59] <mrcreativity> oh...had no idea. any idea where i can get the list?
[14:59] <mudtar> Right now, in Ubuntu 11.04 (with Unity), I have to hover over the top menu bar before the menu options appear, overlaying the title. Is there a way to get them to be there all the time, without my mouse hover?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> Vhozard:  theres ways to let various applets show up at the top right.. see that url i posted
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> mudtar:  yes there is - see that url i posted.. :)
[14:59] <mrcreativity> tyvm
[15:00] <mudtar> Ah, I missed it Dr_Willis. Can you link me once more?
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> I find the hidding menus also very ugly
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> Wantign to tweak unity and do some other things that Ubuntu wont let you do by default? ---> :  check http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[15:01] <Vhozard> thanks Dr_Willis
[15:01] <mudtar> Thanks, Dr_Willis. :)
[15:02] <buhman> I'm running the 11.04 livecd and my wireless doesn't work
[15:02] <teb2> i must add that it is the server only version of the iso
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> I also have found several apps taht dont play nicely with the global menu. theuy just dont have any menus at all.
[15:02] <Jessica175> re: netflix:  do you mean that the console connects to the VM via VNC?
[15:02] <buhman> the interesting thing is that it does work in debian squeeze, but not debian wheezy (which would have more similar packages to natty)
[15:02] <buhman> how might I go about diagnosing the problem?
[15:02] <mudtar> Dr_Willis, I find that's true with Chromium. :\
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> mudtar:  i found it an issue with many of the simpiler programs that came with my lubuntu desktip install also.
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> plus it just looks sort of Ugly half the time with the title getting overwritten by the menu text  in many cases.
[15:03] <mudtar> Firefox plays quite nicely, but not Chrome. I'll get around to fixing it someday, but for now I'll use Firefox because of it.
[15:03] <tyler_d> can someone please pastbin their /etc/init.d/openvpn for me... I am getting a syntax error somewhere in mine?
[15:05] <Baram> I just updated (10.04 64bit) after being gone for a while (175 updates) and I know a new version of both firefox and chrome were in there, now I cannot type Korean in either (but can in all other programs)
[15:05] <rob_p> tyler_d: Why did you modify openvpn's init script?
[15:05] <roasted> Does anybody here have a preference at which point they install Unity 2D over 3D?
[15:05] <tyler_d> rob_p:  being foolish
 Can you explain more please?
[15:06] <roasted> vibhav, I'm just curious at which point (hardware wise) people prefer 2D over 3D
[15:06] <rob_p> tyler_d: Well, *sometimes* that has to be done for legit reasons.  I was just curious!
[15:07] <aeon-ltd> roasted: is it slow? use 2D, like lightning? use 3D for more bling :)
 Nice Hardware = 3d or 2d
[15:07] <tyler_d> rob_p: I was trying to sort out an upstart issue; however something got borked and of course I saved it right
[15:07] <rob_p> tyler_d: On one of my server installs, I had to mod mine in order to have some custom preparatory scripts execute just before starting the openvpn process.
[15:07] <aeon-ltd> roasted: personally i wouldn't use either, i feel that UIs like unity slow things down more
[15:07] <gare> hi -- ok.  I want to believe the Unity is also for 'power users'.  Does anyone else share my hope / have any comments supportive of this belief?  (I read in press how Unity was not designed for power users.. )
[15:07] <buhman> is it possible to remove the ugly sidebar and replace the top-left unity button with a more traditional gnome menu?
[15:07] <mbeierl> there's a unity 3d?  like the compiz cube concept on unity?
[15:08] <Krishnandu> Hi guys, I can't boot using newest kernel after upgrading to Natty, The screen remains blank. Though I can boot using "Previous Version"
[15:08] <bazhang> buhman, choose gnome classic at login
[15:08] <jw_> Any idea if ubuntu will soon release patches to fix unity/other misc bugs?
[15:08] <rob_p> tyler_d: I see. None of my openvpn installs are recent enough to use upstart so my init scripts won't help you.
[15:08] <roasted> aeon-ltd, that is definitely not what I asked, but thanks anyway.
[15:08] <buhman> bazhang: but I kinda like other parts of this interface
[15:08] <blackbit> gare: I am a power user and like it. Its nead and orderly, and I like it even if I am not a noob
[15:08] <sipior> gare: if you can use it to launch a terminal, it is fine for "power users". :-)
[15:08] <buhman> bazhang: I just don't like the lack of a real menu and the sidebar is just too colorful
[15:08] <bazhang> buhman, there's unity-2d , limited customisation afaik
[15:08] <aeon-ltd> roasted: sorry, but yeah unity's nice - in eye candy terms anyway :)
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> jw_:  i imagione we will be getting a steady flow of patches over the next few months. :)
[15:09] <roasted> aeon-ltd, it's nice all around, if you ask me. As a former hater I'm swallowing my words as I see all of the benefits in usability now that I've used it for a few weeks.
[15:09] <eekTheCat> Could someone give the value of their errorformat in vim? :set errorformat
[15:09] <jw_> no customization is really disappointing, that's why I moved to linux. If I wanted to be forced into a style I'll just stick with windows or mac
[15:10] <tyler_d> rob_p: alternately how would I force re-install?
[15:10] <jrib> jw_: keep in mind you have a choice in window managers
[15:10] <buhman> my close, minimize, and maximize buttons are on the wrong side of the windows too
[15:10] <gare> blackbit: glad to hear it.  Thank you.  I have the keyboard shortcut wallpaper and love the 3 d type layering of workspaces ...  + yes sipior thanks good point.  Ctrl + Alt + T works great!  :)
[15:10] <mbeierl> is it possible to configure workspace switching in unity to react to mouse events?  For example, I use mouse wheel up/down at the edges to flip the cube face in compiz.
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> !controls
[15:10] <buhman> somehow I think ubuntu's probably made the first left-handed window manager
[15:10] <jw_> yeah I looked at classic, but am concerned that they will force unity in 11.10
[15:10] <stimpie> eekTheCat: https://gist.github.com/953393
[15:10] <rob_p> tyler_d: If all else fails, you can --purge remove the package and then reinstall it.  That will replace the init script with a default version.  Just remember to *always* make a backup of the file before you start messing with it.  It's a good habit to get in to.  I forced myself to start doing that over 10 years ago when I first started learning Linux and I still do it now! :)
[15:11] <buhman> didn't know that was possible
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> buhman:  ive seen other wms with them on the left over the years. :) not many.. but some
[15:11] <damiano546> i have a chroot env...i have to create some hard links...my question is: the user that will use the chroot env can follow this hardlink and do some changes at the system? if i create an hardlink to /etc/resolv.conf the user can change it? is better to copy or hardlinks? mi have many chroot ....
[15:11] <damiano546> someone read my message?^
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> buhman:  ive seen them up/down on the side also..
[15:11] <Jessica175> arrgh...  now i'm pissed.  just upgraded? to 11 and it lost my netdrivers along the way!  That machine is hanging above my treadmill, so I always maintain it via VNC.  Now I need to install drivers while walking uphill?!?!  grumbles
[15:11] <drake_> exit
[15:11] <buhman> Dr_Willis: what else does that?
[15:11] <sipior> jw_: they didn't force gnome or kde on you; why would unity be any different? you'll *always* have the option to choose what you want.
[15:12] <sipior> jw_: it may just be a bit more work...
[15:12] <mbeierl> Dr_Willis: was that controls factoid meant for me?
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> buhman:  i recall wmx doing it that way. and some other very minimal wm's
[15:12] <rob_p> tyler_d: You can purge the current install with, "sudo apt-get --purge remove openvpn" and once it finishes, do, "sudo apt-get install openvpn" and that *should* get you back to default configs, init scripts, etc for openvpn.
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> buhman:  ive seem WM's with no controls at all. :)
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:13] <eekTheCat> stimpie, thank you. mine seems to be a bit screwy. trying to figure out if it's an ubuntu issue or something I did. :)
[15:13] <constl> I've just an ubuntu natty on my network but can't actually ping it from the other pcs using its hostname (ping does work). Any tips?
[15:13] <tyler_d> rob_p: worked like a charm, tyvm
[15:13] <rob_p> tyler_d: welcome :)
[15:13] <mbeierl> does iphone tethering work in Natty?
[15:14] <mbeierl> sorry - iphone 4 tethering
[15:14] <jw_> I guess Im just real happy with 10.10 - I liked having all the eye candy which doesnt seem to work well in 11.
[15:14] <Krishnandu> Guys any idea?? Can't boot with Newest Kernel after upgrading to Natty, the screen goes black and nothing happens after that. After surfing Ubuntu Forums looks like many guys are facing the same problem. So any fix yet??
[15:14] <sipior> constl: add the machine to /etc/hosts, or whatever local name service you employ.
[15:14] <vega> mbeierl: at least used to work in maverick, so one would suppose yes..
[15:15] <multipass_> what do you mean by tethering mbeierl?
[15:15] <mbeierl> multipass_: where the iphone is used as a cellular modem for the attached os.  over usb
[15:16] <multipass_> mbeierl, ah ok, not sure on that one. but on my iphone4 i can get root access and transfer music now, so much better chance
[15:16] <mbeierl> vega: it works with a PPA under maverick.  I have found confirmed bug reports of it not working in natty with no recent progress so was not sure if it was a beta issue or still there
[15:16] <Logan_> bug 717914
[15:16] <eekTheCat> Krishnandu, you probably want to check launchpad for something like that
[15:16] <Logan_> mbeierl: ^
[15:17] <josiahjos> hi
[15:17] <ChangeMod> hi ! is there a way when doing chmod -R to change the mod of hidden files ?
[15:17] <Logan_> mbeierl: It seems to have broken in Natty.
[15:17] <mbeierl> Logan_: yep, that's the one. looks like that a big no, thanks!
[15:17] <vega> mbeierl: ok sorry, i've only used through bluetooth
[15:17]  * mbeierl cancels upgrade...
[15:17] <Logan_> mbeierl: I would add yourself to the CC list for that bug so that you can get an e-mail when it's fixed.
[15:17] <ubuntu-user> hi! whats the best gps software for ubuntu?
[15:17] <mbeierl> Logan_: doing that now, thanks!
[15:18] <Logan_> !best | ubuntu-user
[15:18] <Logan_> !gps | ubuntu-user
[15:18] <ubuntu-user> im just want to install my ubuntu with gps apps if anyone could suggest
[15:19] <eekTheCat> every new Ubuntu release seems to have a lot of regressions.
[15:19] <auToeXeC> Im using ubuntu 10.10. To upgrade to 11.04, How much data I've to download ?
[15:19] <ubuntu-user> awesome thnx. ya for car navigation :)
[15:19] <eekTheCat> auToeXeC, depends on what you have installed. it will tell you if you try
[15:19] <Baram> I just updated (10.04 64bit) after being gone for a while (175 updates) and I know a new version of both firefox and chrome were in there, now I cannot type Korean in either (but can in all other programs)
[15:20] <eekTheCat> auToeXeC, and give you a chance to abort
[15:20] <ubuntu-user> one more question. since i like gnome 3.2x most. how long maverick will last?
[15:20] <auToeXeC> eekTheCat, Okay. I'll try.
[15:21] <Zahrada> is there a good tool to modify grub for ubuntu?
[15:22] <eekTheCat> Zahrada, a text editor :-P
[15:22] <Zahrada> Well, that's the kind I hope to avoid :P
[15:23] <ggabor_> hi .. Im updated 10.10 to 11.04 and when i choose in the grub ubuntu kernel always only restart the PC. I need sombady help
[15:23] <JoeA1> hi, I have installed wine on ubuntu, if I open a text file with double click it is opened with notepad instead of gedit :( how to turn that off?
[15:23] <buhman> what's wrong with my wireless? http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=151486
[15:23] <mudtar> Dr_Willis, I don't want to uninstall Global Menu completely. I just want to make it so that it's set the menu never hides. So that I don't have to bring my cursor up there before the menu shows up. Do you know how to do that?
[15:23] <buhman> that seems to happen in any recent kernel
[15:24] <Logan_> !wine | JoeA1
[15:24] <mudtar> Right now the window title shows constantly, and the menu doesn't come up until my cursor's there.
[15:25] <Lovre> hi all
[15:25] <Lovre> i have a raid controller, and two disks in RAID 1 field. How can i make sure that my Ubuntu recognizes this configuration?
[15:25] <Dbugger> Hello guys
[15:26] <zhanghao> jiarule
[15:26] <Dbugger> Great work with natty. Unity is awesome
[15:26] <eekTheCat> Zahrada, nothing is jumping out at me when I search the repositories. google says a few apps exist, but there don't seem to be official ubuntu packages.
[15:26] <JoeA1> Logan_: oki
[15:26] <JoeA1> thx
[15:26] <yaaar> Lovre: if it's a real hardware raid, ubuntu will just see it as a single scsi disk. if it's fakeraid, hilarity ensues...
[15:27] <yaaar> Lovre: you know what chipset etc. it is?
[15:27] <Lovre> yaaar: its a hardware raid, but shouldnt i have a raid driver?
[15:27] <Lovre> yaaar: yes...
[15:28] <dios_mio> keyboard layouts broken!! new windows always imputed the active window's layout, no matter what you pick in the preferences
[15:28] <blink> just upgraded to 11.04, removed unity, and installed gnome again.... my CPU is going to 100% on the compiz process now, how can I get hardware accelerated OpenGL back?
[15:29] <OerHeks> blink, logout, and change GDM to classic
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> i wonder what 'installing gnome again' actually installed...
[15:30] <freakynl> OerHeks: just how old are you with a nick like that?
[15:30] <aaron_wayne> what is ctrl+alt f7 now? it is no longer the xwindow, it just takes me to a page that says ok?
[15:30] <OerHeks> me2 Dr_Willis
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> aaron_wayne:  try F6 and F8 ive seen X move around
[15:30] <aaron_wayne> Dr_Willis, yeah, it F8 let me back into the gui, was just curious cause f7 only gives me the screen with ok
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> aaron_wayne:  its another console but no login/tty progr is running on it.
[15:31] <yaaar> Lovre: i mean, obviously you have to have a driver for the chipset, regardless of whether it's raid. but that's not an issue. the question is whether it's one of these "fakeraid" controllers that rely on their fancy (windows) driver to use the CPU/memory to make raid happen. that's wholly different from a real hardware card, which does all the raid stuff on its own and just presents the os...
[15:31] <yaaar> ...with one volume
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> aaron_wayne:  for whatever reason X moved down 1 #
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:31] <dios_mio> keyboard layouts broken!! new windows always get the active window's layout, no matter what you pick in the options for it
[15:31] <Abhijit> how can i have official supported latest version of software center on lucid?
[15:31] <Abhijit> help
[15:32] <yaaar> Lovre: if you have a fakeraid controller you might as well just use Linux software raid instead. but if you have a hardware controller you can just set it up however you want and linux will just see the volumes automagically
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[15:33] <Braiam> spam?
[15:33] <Pici> Clearly.
[15:34] <LjL> yes
[15:34] <Abhijit> how can i have official supported latest version of software center on lucid?
[15:34] <Azelphur> starting around 10 years ago, wallops was invented so opers could mass message people without being a phony :P
[15:34] <Pici> Azelphur: Its not from staff. Please ignore it.
[15:34] <Azelphur> Pici I know that :P
[15:34] <Baram> so... can anyone help me figure out why after an update both firefox and chrome refused to allow me to type in Korea?
[15:34] <moustafa> Abhijit: If you have lucid, and installed all updates, you have the latest version available on Lucid
[15:34] <takeshi> Guys, which is the gnome's version in ubuntu 11.04?
[15:35] <Abhijit> moustafa, no my the software center in 110.04 is newest. with new features.
[15:35] <toggles> takeshi: gnome-about
[15:35] <bazhang> Abhijit, with the apps available in Natty?
[15:35] <bazhang> Abhijit, you cannot
[15:35] <moustafa> Abhijit: If you want the version from Natty, you will need to upgrade to Natty
[15:35] <takeshi> toggles, well i'm watching what is new in that version..
[15:35] <Lovre> yaaar: its a fakeraid... how do i use ubuntu raid with this?
[15:35] <takeshi> right now im using 10.10
[15:36] <toggles> takeshi: gnome-session --version
[15:36] <toggles> gnome-session 2.32.1
[15:36] <Abhijit> bazhang, not the apps. i want the features of the newest software center
[15:36] <Abhijit> moustafa, ok
[15:36] <takeshi> THanks
[15:36] <bazhang> Abhijit, still no
[15:36] <toggles> takeshi: np
[15:36] <Abhijit> bazhang, okay! :-(
[15:37] <giro> is there someone who knows how XFRM works?
[15:38] <blink> so now that I'm in ubuntu classic, the cpu spike is gone. cool. now can I get it back without ganking CPU time?
[15:39] <eekTheCat> Ouch, major power regression, I'm definitely not upgrading to natty. http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=15935
[15:39] <freakynl> giro: wouldn't it be easier to just ask what you actually need to know? Nobody is going to answer such generic q's
[15:39] <giro> sorry you're right
[15:39] <zizban> I just installed Unity 2D...nice!
[15:40] <geraudk2000> hi
[15:41] <giro> I'd like to know how XFRM (ip xfrm policy\state) check keys, if it does
[15:41] <giro> checks*
[15:41] <geraudk2000> please someone can tell me how to keep my olds kernel ?
[15:41] <silvertip257> Hello, I'm attempting to PXE boot an Ubuntu Live CD (PXE + NFS).  With the boot option "silent" removed, I can see the boot process halt as soon as ALSA is being loaded.
[15:41] <giro> because I need to add an SA (security association)
[15:42] <Abhijit> geraudk2000, just dont upgrade to new kernel?
[15:42] <cal_> geraudk2000: lock it in synaptic
[15:42] <giro> the outbound SA adding works fine
[15:42] <geraudk2000> Abhijit: yes
[15:42] <zizban> I think you'll feel pain, though.
[15:42] <vesto> hello, i upgraded from maverick to natty and now grub says "error: file not found"  ive tried to repair grub with the livecd i have but it doesnt seem to be working... can anyone help?
[15:42] <giro> but the inbound SA adding doesn't work
[15:42] <giro> do you have any idea?
[15:42] <jatt> vesto: are you installing it on a usb drive?
[15:42] <vesto> jatt: no, mbr of sda
[15:43] <elricl> Hello,is anyone else having trouble with the unity pointer behaving strangely
[15:43] <zizban> define "strengely"
[15:43] <jef91> So I booted into my Linux box and was getting a pile of read only file system errors, so I rebooted and now I can only get a busybox terminal... I have a second linux install on the box but it is unable to mount the other file system and fsck isn't working "fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda2"
[15:43] <zizban> or even strangely
[15:43] <toggles> eekTheCat: new kernel since release
[15:44] <giro> no one could help me? do I have to be more clear?
[15:44] <rpk> I just went to open a text file in Geany, and ubuntu dropped out to the startup x shell, sat on "checking batter state" for 10-15 seconds, and then restarted
[15:44] <vesto> do i need a natty livecd to repair grub2 for natty?  doesnt seem to work following the ubuntu wiki page on grub2 using a lucid livecd
[15:44] <rpk> battery^^
[15:45] <devcow> can i restore workspaces on unity? i mean all programs on restart should restored in the workspaces.
[15:45] <jatt> vesto: you must use the same grub version
[15:45] <rpk> Is there anything I can do to prevent it from restarting and losing all of my stuff?
[15:45] <zizban> hows your battery?
[15:45] <rpk> in the future?
[15:45] <rpk> battery is fine
[15:45] <rpk> I'm pretty sure it just happened was on that as checking battery state is the last thing that gets printed during boot
[15:46] <zizban> hmmm
[15:46] <dios_mio> keyboard layouts broken!! new windows always get the active window's layout, no matter which option you pick in keyboard layout preferences
[15:46] <blink> so now that I'm in ubuntu classic, the cpu spike is gone. cool. now can I get it back without ganking CPU time?
[15:46] <blink> compiz back*
[15:47] <Dark_Star1> does anyone know how to change the ldap root password please?
[15:47] <eekTheCat> jeremydei, maybe your hard drive is hosed?
[15:47] <MoL0ToV> i  just installed squid on ubuntu 11.04, i leaved only the acl:   http_access allow all but i not able to surf the web.
[15:47] <zizban> My spare laptop is at the low end for Unity so I just use Unity 2D
[15:47] <zizban> no cpu spikes
[15:47] <MoL0ToV> someone explain to me where i do the mistake?
[15:48] <catphish> does anyone know how ubuntu 10.04 handle bonding? i am having a lot of trouble with it
[15:48] <toggles> eekTheCat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/760131
[15:49] <Technoviking> what should I file a printing bug againist?
[15:49] <Defusal_> hi everyone, does anyone know why i would get escaped chars outputted to my console when i use keys such as the arrow keys or tab, using putty client on windows 7 to ubuntu server, strangely enough, when i use something with curses, such as nano, arrow keys work fine, so it must be something about this ubuntu server installation?
[15:50] <stimpie> Technoviking:  depends on the bug,   but cups is a good guess
[15:51] <eekTheCat> toggles, it says fix released for "Release Notes" not for Natty itself
[15:51] <varun> hi friends,i installed a programme called gsimreader in wine,i want to remove that app now,i am unable to do that,how to remove that app from the applications menu
[15:51] <zizban> varun: in Unity?
[15:51] <Technoviking> Natty nlonger reconizes my dnssd printer:(
[15:51] <varun> any one there
[15:52] <toggles> eekTheCat: yeah, i saw that, sorry, i'm looking for the release notes..
[15:52] <buhman> what's going on here: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=151493
[15:52] <tabbernuk> Sorry to bother you, but does anybody know a proper answer to http://askubuntu.com/questions/37843/where-do-i-place-a-file-for-bookmarks-for-all-users ? Ubuntu adds its default bookmarks to Firefox 4, but what mechanism is used ? I checked /etc/firefox/profile/bookmarks.html is definitely not used anymore...
[15:53] <Defusal_> also, does anyone know how to make ubuntu server display the working directory in console lines, this server installation is only showing $
[15:53] <warchild> hi @ all
[15:53] <eekTheCat> toggles, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes#Linux%20kernel
[15:53] <toggles> eekTheCat: thanks
[15:54] <Baskak> hi, i have a failure following upgrade to 11.04. http://pastebin.com/L03HTmQB
[15:55] <researcher123> hi
[15:55] <researcher123> Is it possible to undelete a recently deleted user account?
[15:55] <eekTheCat> toggles, So I guess that release notes bug was just a reminder to note the problem "Known Issues" section of the release notes.
[15:56] <stimpie> Defusal_: modify PS1 in bashrc, see http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/09/bash-shell-ps1-10-examples-to-make-your-linux-prompt-like-angelina-jolie/
[15:56] <blip-> name suggestion I just thought of, Rabid Rabbit :)
[15:57] <stimpie> researcher123: no, unless you have a backup to restore
[15:57] <cci[RR]us> hi pls help me at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748176
[15:57] <researcher123> is it possible here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=915283
[15:57] <eekTheCat> blip-, the letter R is a few releases away
[15:57] <aethelrick> hi all, I've been a linux user for many years and bitter experience early on taught me to only use NVidia graphics cards. I'd like to know, what is the state of support for the Radeon cards these days? is it still miserable or are they on par with NVidia?
[15:58] <tabbernuk> I noticed that there is also ubiquitous about:config value distribution.canonical.bookmarksProcessed in Firefox 4, but I cannot find out, where the default bookmarks are stored and how they are processed. I'm really digging it, so any hints are welcome if you have no solution...
[15:58] <Defusal_> thanks stimpie
[15:58] <toggles> eekTheCat: yeah, seems it's scheduled for the milestone release
[15:58] <blip-> eekTheCat, ah ok :)
[15:58] <Defusal_> Does anyone know why i would get escaped chars outputted to my console when i use keys such as the arrow keys or tab, using putty client on windows 7 to ubuntu server, strangely enough, when i use something with curses, such as nano, arrow keys work fine, so i'm guessing it must be something about this ubuntu server installation?
[15:58] <broot> Anyone feel like helping out? http://pastebin.com/AvjPNzt6
[15:59] <cci[RR]us> hi pls help me on my grub qn at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748176
[15:59] <Pici> !here
[16:00] <broot> Oh, thanks Pici. :>
[16:00] <alanonymous> is anyone else not particularly happy with gnome 3?  or does it just take time to work its way into my heart?
[16:01] <guampa> i have two simultaneous X sessions, and am switching VTs with ctrl+alt+F[7,8] . If any of the sessions is not accessed for some time it asks me for a password when i switch, is there a way to disable this?
[16:01] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, I don't have an answer. But I've found that using emacs style navigation works pretty consistently across shells, terminals, and remote connections. ctrl-p, ctrl-n, ctrl-b, ctrl-f
[16:01] <broot> I'm having problem currently booting into ubuntu -- Error message and general information: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602816/
[16:01] <buhman> I've been having trouble with my wireless card across all distributions; It just doesn't seem to want to "activate"; my card: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=151486 me playing with my card: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=151493
[16:02] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: i've ssh'd into many ubuntu boxes before just fine in the past, so im almost sure its something about this server
[16:02] <mhaddog> how to find hp ubuntu server compliant list? with 10.04 or 10.10?
[16:03] <gare> updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts  with Natty links ...
[16:03] <rezzy> Hi, could someone assist me with a sound issue? I'm able to hear sound through my speakers (rear green out) but not through my headphones (front green out).
[16:03] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, what is $TERM when you ssh to that machine
[16:03] <botcity> sound | rezzy
[16:04] <botcity> !sound | rezzy
[16:04] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: xterm
[16:04] <broot> I'm having problem currently booting into ubuntu -- Error message and general information: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602816/
[16:05] <pranav> i've seen ubuntu wallpapers, on the right side. they have this attractive system monitoring which includes CPU usage & other. Where can I find tools such to download & make my desktop similar ?
[16:05] <atlef> !conky | pranav
[16:05] <k3strel> pranav: likely Conky or GKRellm.
[16:05] <rezzy> Unfortunately, none of the solutions I have tried seem to work. Switching outputs between speakers/headphones went fine on 10.10, but now I only hear sound through rear green out (I'm on 11.04)
[16:06] <pranav> atlef: k3strel, thanks :)
[16:07] <compdoc> green is the normal out. your old system could reconfigure any out to work?
[16:07] <tamale_> Hello all.. I tried to upgrade from Maverick to Natty and I got the following error towards the end: dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 569 package 'shotwell':  duplicate value for `Depends' field E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[16:07] <tamale_> Now I can't install any packages
[16:07] <tamale_> help?
[16:07] <mrfree> hi all
[16:07] <mrfree> where I can find the ubuntu gdm theme??
[16:07] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, is that what it is when you ssh to other ubuntu machines?
[16:08] <mrfree> I'd like to customize it a little bit but I can't find the theme files...
[16:09] <maco> tamale_: sounds like a bug in the shotwell package. sudo dpkg -P shotwell       <-- try that?
[16:09] <tamale_> $ sudo dpkg -P shotwell dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 569 package 'shotwell':  duplicate value for `Depends' field
[16:09] <broot> Anyone care to help? having problems booting into Ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602816/
[16:09] <maxagaz> what tool should I use to set the desktop effects ?
[16:10] <maxagaz> in natty
[16:10] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, just logged into another ubuntu machine and its also xterm, yet the arrow and tab keys work perfectly
[16:10] <compdoc> broot, its not finding the disk. have you change the drives around in the case?
[16:10] <maxagaz> it's not in appearance anymore
[16:10] <cci[RR]us> hi pls help me on my grub qn at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748176
[16:11] <Defusal_> so it has to be an issue on that specific ubuntu server
[16:11] <maco> tamale_: could you "gksudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status" and find shotwell in there and paste its whole section to paste.ubuntu.com and give me te link?
[16:11] <maxagaz> and the compiz config tool is fucked up
[16:12] <broot> compdoc: I guess I should've mentioned that it's a laptop with a single harddrive -- so I have no idea how the problem occurred
[16:12] <buhman> you know what's even cooler about this wireless problem?  Is that both my internal and usb wnic's behave exactly the same
[16:12] <tamale_> maco: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602824/
[16:12] <buhman> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=151499
[16:12] <schelcj> Is there a way to add default desktop icons for all users? /etc/skel is out since these users already have a home directory in afs.
[16:13] <compdoc> broot, you have a seperate partition for ubuntu?
[16:13] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, maybe that system is missing terminfo for xterm? ls /lib/terminfo/x/xterm*
[16:13] <broot> compdock: yes, but it's all on the single harddrive,
[16:15] <compdoc> broot, boot from a live cd and see if you can find the linux partition
[16:15] <compdoc> you booted from windows now?
[16:15] <tamale_> now I'm getting this after running apt-get install -f:  E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[16:16] <broot> Aye, I'm on my stationary at the moment, but I'm able to access the windows partition. And I'll try with the live CD.
[16:16] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: /lib/terminfo/x/xterm /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-color /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-mono /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-r6 /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-xfree86 /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-256color /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-debian /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-r5 /lib/terminfo/x/xterm-vt220
[16:16] <tamale_> should I just format and start over with narwhal ?
[16:16] <tamale_> I've never once upgraded ubuntu successfully :(
[16:16] <joeoshawa> i have a problem with the date on my computer the calendar is wrong i cannot set it to the correct date
[16:16] <compdoc> broot, boot windows and install a program for me
[16:16] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: im not exactly sure what im looking for, but it appears to have terminfo
[16:16] <botcity> buhman, what is it your trying to do ? i must off missed your explanation .
[16:17] <haqduong> joeoshawa: Can you check your time zone is correct?
[16:17] <broot> compdoc: what program in particular?
[16:17] <compdoc> broot, install:   http://download.cnet.com/HD-Tune/3000-18512_4-11121758.html
[16:17] <compdoc> its free
[16:17] <compdoc> tell me when its running
[16:17] <joeoshawa> it is saying the 29th is a friday
[16:18] <buhman> botcity: trying to make my wireless work
[16:18] <buhman> botcity: the best part is that that usb card seems to work on other computers
[16:18] <joeoshawa> nvm
[16:19] <botcity> buhman, have you been through the wireless troubleshoot page?
[16:19] <buhman> it's that "0: acer-wireless" soft block that seems to be causing all sorts of hell
[16:19] <buhman> botcity: umm, no, but I guess; which ones?
[16:19] <botcity> !wifi |  buhman
[16:20] <maco> tamale_: imvery confused because i dont see a duplicate depends
[16:21] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, wow it really kills to use ssh without being able to tab or use arrow keys :(
[16:21] <Defusal_> so painful
[16:21] <aethelrick> is anyone using radeon graphics card without hassles these days? (I'm an NVIdia user considering buying a new card, thinking AMD) should I stick to NVidia??
[16:21] <tamale_> maco: I didn't either
[16:21] <Guest78019> can anyone suggest me a good python project i cn contribute
[16:22] <buhman> botcity: that usb wireless card is on the list of supported cards
[16:22] <arvut> how big should I make the /etc and /boot partitions on a lucid install? I made a 8.1GB / and got a 57GB /home from previous install of maverick
[16:23] <arvut> less than 1GB?
[16:23] <Abhijit> Guest78019, feedindicator. please contribute and improve it. crashes a lot.
[16:23] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, Do the emacs style keybindings work? ctrl-p for up, ctrl-n for down, ctrl-f for right, ctrl-b for left
[16:23] <Snyperx> Does anyone know why the 11.04 Netbook release is not available for download from the Ubuntu website?
[16:23] <Snyperx> I tried getting the torrent file and it says it is not on the server...
[16:23] <iomari> greetings, anyone here use multicd?
[16:23] <janzert> Snyperx: had that confusion myself, the netbook release is now part of the regular desktop version
[16:24] <arvut> !ask iomari
[16:24] <tamale_> Now I'm just getting this error when trying to upgrade: E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[16:24] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: well i dont have emacs installed, in console ctrl-p outputs ^P
[16:24] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, what is $SHELL on that system?
[16:24] <iomari> when running multicd, it keeps ignoring ubuntu. every other iso works.
[16:24] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, /bin/sh
[16:24] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, that must be your problem
[16:25] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, on a standard ubuntu system it should be /bin/bash
[16:25] <botcity> buhman, okay did you troubleshoot it? which card is it ?
[16:25] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, sh is ancient unix compatibility shell
[16:25] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, ah, why would it be like this, and more importantly, what do i need to do to install bash?
[16:26] <martian> How does one disable notification area popups, or perhaps alter their behavior?
[16:26] <buhman> botcity: my screenshots have hwinfo --wlan for both cards
[16:26] <Defusal_> i just got my VPS and im not liking its state at all
[16:26] <maco> Defusal_: bash is efault login shell. its installed y default
[16:26] <muneeb> hi, can anyone tell me how can i limit file size for  uploads in ftp server (using vsftpd)??
[16:26] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, odds are it's bash in compatibility mode...
[16:26] <Defusal_> maco: then how do i enable it by default?
[16:26] <maco> Defusal_: /bun/sh is dash because its smaller. less overhead than bash on running boot scripts. things go faster
[16:26] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, what does "dpkg -l bash" say?
[16:27] <kad_> hey! can someone remind me with the command that i can force it to execute specific parameter ex: run a script base on Time ? thx
[16:27] <maco> Defusal_:  if you want to make /bin/sh use bash instead of dash, just change the symlink
[16:27] <buhman> but I have the rt2500usb Linksys USB 54G and an Atheros 9285
[16:27] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, bash 4.1-2ubuntu3 The GNU Bourne Again SHell
[16:27] <maco> Defusal_: but be warned it will make things like boot slower because bash is huge
[16:27] <maco> Defusal_: bash is the default login shell. see /etc/passwd
[16:27] <buhman> both have kernel modules loaded and both work in kernel 2.6.32 (debian squeeze)
[16:27] <joe021> is possible to generate a key pair for ssh without prompting the user for info?
[16:27] <Defusal_> maco, maybe not the best idea for a VPS, how much bigger we talking?
[16:28] <buhman> it seems like there must have been some regression
[16:28] <Defusal_> maco, its not the default login shell on this server
[16:28] <Defusal_> im ssh'ing to a VPS, and its using dash
[16:28] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, So it's installed. Changing a symlink manually like maco suggested is not the right way to change shells
[16:28] <maco> Defusal_: hm then sounds like your vps provider futsed with /etc/passwd O_o -- change that back
[16:28] <buhman> botcity: I'm also browsing through these guides and they seem mostly completely irrelevant
[16:28] <maco> eekTheCat: thats the way if you want to change /bin/sh's behaviour. but if you want to change login shells, then /etc/passwd
[16:29] <Defusal_> err
[16:29] <Defusal_> i was given a default password, which i had to change on first login, then it kicked me out and made me login again
[16:29] <jnlsnl_> anyone have experience installing postfix ?
[16:29] <Defusal_> ever since its been using this shell
[16:29] <Defusal_> eekTheCat: what is the correct way to change it then?
[16:30] <mikeshultz> Any good resources on using Ubuntu clients in a samba/NT environment(filesharing and auth)?  Preferably something for large environments(users won't be using smbmount).
[16:30] <botcity> buhman, are you on natty?
[16:30] <spacebug-> the little resize triangle at buttom right corner or all windows, is it possible to get that totally transparent? or maybe not have it at all? or outside the window?
[16:30] <wizworks> Does anyone know how to stop the annoying screen blanking?  I have tried disabling and even removing gnome-screensaver
[16:30] <buhman> botcity: my screenshots would suggest so; yes
[16:30] <Pici> Defusal_: via chsh or editing /etc/passwd directly.  I suggest the former.
[16:31] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, usermod -s /bin/bash Defusal_
[16:31] <eekTheCat> Defusal_, by Defusal_ i mean whatever your username is :)
[16:31] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602834/
[16:31] <Defusal_> eekTheCat, thanks
[16:31] <maco> i always forget about usermod...
[16:31] <Defusal_> :)
[16:32] <eekTheCat> maco, it's slightly safer that mucking about /etc/passwd :)
[16:32] <b0ot> Should a sip ata showup with debug ccsip all?
[16:32] <pestilence> is there any way to extract the list of installed packages from a old installation without booting it?
[16:32] <buhman> botcity: whenever I try to do anything with either interface I'm told "network is down"
[16:32] <GeneralAntilles> Are there any good troubleshooting guides for wake-from-sleep failures? I've got an x220 and an IdeaPad S10-3t which both refuse to wake from sleep about 2/3rds of the time with 11.04.
[16:32] <buhman> what that actually means I'm clueless
[16:32] <tamale_> Now I'm just getting this error when trying to upgrade: E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[16:33] <buhman> botcity: and I'm currently at a loss on how to find more useful information
[16:33] <maco> pestilence: chroot in & dpkg --get-selections > file
[16:33] <miceiken> "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110426)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter.", this pops up while installing the base system, but that CD is the one I am running.
[16:33] <pestilence> maco: good idea
[16:33] <pestilence> thanks
[16:33] <broot> I'm going to use the LiveCD to boot into Ubuntu 10.10, do I actually need the 10.10 CD, or will a new 11.04 work as well?
[16:34] <buhman> botcity: on why two supposedly supported cards both aren't working because of what looks like some kind of system-wide soft block
[16:34] <wizworks> Does anyone know how to stop the annoying screen blanking?  I have tried disabling and even removing gnome-screensaver
[16:34] <botcity> buhman, which laptop is it?
[16:34] <buhman> botcity: I'd also be willing to wager that if I grabbed ubuntu 10.04 or something to that effect, it'd probably work
[16:35] <buhman> botcity: Acer One 721-3574
[16:36] <buhman> botcity: only two distributions have worked so far: debian squeeze, and some chromium nightly build
[16:36] <eekTheCat> wizworks, don't know, but it's probably acpi related..
[16:37] <buhman> botcity: opensuse 11.4 failed, debian wheezy failed, fedora 10 failed, and ubuntu 11.04 fails
[16:37] <eekTheCat> wizworks, someting in /etc/acpi maybe?
[16:37] <mbeierl> broot: I don't understand the question.  Do you mean you have 10.10 installed on a hard drive and you want to use the 11.04 live CD as the boot loader?
[16:37] <pestilence> maco: complication...the old filesystem is mounted read-only (not by choice).  where do i dump the selections?
[16:38] <wizworks> eekTheCat: I have a ubuntu 10.4 box running MythTV...   as long as the box is active the screen stays on.  When it becomes idle after a few minutes, the blanking starts.
[16:38] <botcity> buhman, what is the output of   lspci | grep -i wireless
[16:38] <wizworks> eekTheCat:  I'll check that file and see if I find something...   but I disabled acpi too.
[16:39] <maco> pestilence: flash drive?
[16:39] <insanity99> hey guys, what do you guys think of unity? i cant seem to get it, seems to be no order, just a load of random programs listed
[16:39] <maco> pestilence: or just somewhere on the live filesystem for now, then ftp it somewhere or pastebin it
[16:39] <pestilence> maco: well i could save it to the running system if not for the chroot
[16:39] <maco> pestilence: oh...once you're chrooted you cant get to running...right... can you mount a flash drive inside the chroot?
[16:40] <mbeierl> broot: then, yes it will work
[16:40] <Baskak> hi, i have a failure following upgrade to 11.04. http://pastebin.com/L03HTmQB
[16:40] <Baskak> hello? :)
[16:40] <broot> mbeierl: thank you. :)
[16:40] <maco> pestilence: or does "pastebinit" happen to be one of the things installed on there? in which case, pipe to that?
[16:40] <LibreMan> hello, does anybody know whether I can use apt-cacher for ubuntu and debian at the same time?
[16:40] <maco> pestilence: possibly the chroot might have a writable /tmp?
[16:40] <LibreMan> is it possible that two packages would have the same name but different concent?
[16:40] <pestilence> maco: afraid not.  i'll try flash drive and /tmp
[16:40] <maco> pestilence: yes
[16:40] <mbeierl> broot: the boot loader is actually completely independent of the release itself and can be mixed and matched
[16:41] <maco> pestilence: whoops
[16:41] <maco> LibreMan: yes, debian and ubuntu packages differ
[16:41] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602836/
[16:41] <LibreMan> maco: but the ubuntu ones should have "ubundu"appended if they are different no?
[16:41] <Laggg> i did a boo-boo
[16:42] <Laggg> in a terminal i typed in 'unity --reset'
[16:42] <Laggg> and im on 11.04 classic mode
[16:42] <Laggg> and now it just looks like 11.04 again :P
[16:42] <mun_> hi
[16:42] <Laggg> how do i get back to classic mode?
[16:42] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602837/
[16:42] <mun_> when i indent a python file using tab, it moves in by quite a few spaces. how do i lower the number of spaces?
[16:42] <LibreMan> maco: I mean I know they're different ... the issue is whether they have the same name and are different because in that case they're going to overwrite each other .... if they are named differently then there is no problem
[16:43] <miceiken> Does anyone know? I'm installing Ubuntu 11.04 from scratch, and all of the sudden when I'm at Install the base system, this error pops up (at about 90%) "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110426)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter.". But that's the CD it's booting from
[16:43] <maco> LibreMan: names are teh same. versions are different. so if you mean filename, then different
[16:43] <nanog> i have a machine that when I ssh into it and log in, it doesn't return me to the shell's prompt
[16:43] <LibreMan> maco: yeah, filename ... so they can coexist in the same directory, yup?
[16:43] <thien> how to change Download,Music,Picture... location?
[16:43] <Laggg> miceiken, do as told?
[16:43] <Baskak> anybody? :)
[16:43] <maco> LibreMan: yeah
[16:44] <miceiken> Laggg
[16:44] <nanog> just sits there... All I did was add ipv6.disable=1 to my kernel line and rebooted?
[16:44] <nanog> any ideas?
[16:44] <LibreMan> maco: thanks
[16:44] <miceiken> but it's already in the cdrom
[16:44] <Laggg> press enter
[16:44] <miceiken> I did
[16:44] <miceiken> nothing happens
[16:44] <miceiken> error pops up again
[16:44] <Laggg> nothing? aw
[16:44] <Laggg> weird
[16:44] <Laggg> did you try open/close
[16:44] <Laggg> enter
[16:44] <pindropper> I have ubuntu lucid lynx installed. yesterday i switched off and on some plugins in compiz, and now sometimes when i maximize certain windows, i get logged off randomly, and am sent to the login screen. I tried switching off all the plugins in compiz and still the problem persists. what should i do?
[16:45] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602842/
[16:46] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602844/
[16:46] <jackmcbarn> is ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test the best way to get gcc 4.6 in natty?
[16:47] <buhman> botcity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602845/
[16:47] <Laggg> how do i quit unity?
[16:47] <Laggg> i want classic mode back
[16:47] <Pici> !classic | Laggg
[16:47] <phibxr> Laggg, log out and select... nevermind. ubottu knows everything. :P
[16:47] <buhman> ubottu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602845/
[16:47] <Laggg> im in that mode already
[16:48] <mrfree> what the hell... where I can find the gdm ubuntu theme files?? I'm getting crazy...
[16:48] <Laggg> and then i typed unity --reset
[16:48] <Laggg> and i cant get back to classic
[16:48] <Laggg> how do i kill unity?
[16:48] <buhman> !fixmywireless | ubottu
[16:48] <pindropper> Laggg: try sudo pkill unity
[16:49] <Baskak> any ideas?
[16:49] <buhman> pindropper: that worked :P
[16:49] <insanity99> hey guys, i got ubuntu 11.04 but now i lost the sensors thing on top panel that told me the temps
[16:49] <Roasted> Is it possible to rearrange Unity icons in 2D land?
[16:49] <buhman> pindropper: shut him down real fast
[16:50] <pindropper> buhman: :)
[16:50] <patrunjel> Hi guys, i hate the new Ubuntu and I want my 10.10 back (completely remove 11.04), cand someone please help me out? :)
[16:50] <sahil> hello guys
[16:50] <Pici> patrunjel: reinstall.
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> patrunjel: you will need to reinstall
[16:50] <stimpie> insanity99: the gnome applets are not supported anymore. they are replaced with indicators. Maybe some sensors indicators is created, maybe not
[16:50] <dd214> what is a good app to play BlueRay "EVO" files?
[16:50] <patrunjel> Pici, ActionParsnip this is the only solution?... :-<
[16:50] <Laggg> still not working
[16:50] <Laggg> that pkill unity didnt work
[16:51] <sahil> i am suffering this error frrom synaptic
[16:51] <sahil> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[16:51] <sahil> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages
[16:51] <sahil> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[16:51] <sahil> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[16:51] <FloodBot1> sahil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:51] <pindropper> Laggg: what did it say?
[16:51] <Laggg> it got me some of my old window decorations back
[16:51] <Laggg> nothing
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> sahil: can you give a pastebin of the error so we can read it all
[16:51] <Pici> patrunjel: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[16:51] <Laggg> laggg@se7en ~ $ compiz --replace
[16:51] <Laggg> Backend     : gconf
[16:51] <insanity99> stimpie, ah right, how do i know if there is any made?
[16:51] <Laggg> Integration : true
[16:51] <sahil> pastebin?
[16:51] <Laggg> Profile     : default
[16:51] <Laggg> Adding plugins
[16:51] <FloodBot1> Laggg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:51] <Laggg> Initializing core options...done
[16:51] <thien> help me, how to mount /dev/sda6 to /media/ automatically?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Laggg: pres ALT+F2 and run: metacity --replace
[16:52] <daxroc> I'm having problems with nvidia driver, conf http://pastebin.ca/2053509 and xorg errors and warnings http://pastebin.ca/2053510 . The problem I have is that one of two monitors connected has a resoulution of 640x480 and other is fine, I've tried different metamodes. has any one a possible solution or advice.
[16:52] <buhman> Laggg: metacity --replace
[16:52] <Laggg> that worked^^
[16:52] <buhman> Laggg: of course it did
[16:52] <stimpie> insanity99: google? or http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators
[16:53] <miceiken> Laggg: still not working
[16:53] <Laggg> miceiken, idk what to tell you
[16:53] <Laggg> reboot? try mounting the disc?
[16:53] <Laggg> idk
[16:54] <sahil> guys help me m suffering 4m this
[16:54] <sahil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602851/
[16:54] <pindropper> thien: put a func in your .bashrc
[16:54] <ryankirkman> In 11.04, where is the xorg.conf file located (I need to apply this fix to my xorg.conf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515079#post9494941)
[16:54] <venik> I am having problems with SAMBA on 11.04
[16:54] <thien>  pindropper: how to do?
[16:55] <venik> share do not appear
[16:55] <sahil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602851/
[16:55] <daxroc> ryankirkman: there is none by default , but it should be put in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:55] <Chipzzz> sahil: is that a new install?
[16:55] <pindropper> thien: sorry, that wont work. i dint realise you wanted to do so automatically, presumably at startup. try http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[16:55] <ryankirkman> daxroc: Is there a sample file I can copy?
[16:55] <sahil> no...i hav upgraded 4m ubuntu beta 2
[16:55] <sahil> (natty)
[16:56] <Pici> thien: /etc/fstab would be the proper place to put a drive that you wanted mounted at boot.
[16:56] <daxroc> ryankirkman: not really as it depends on your graphic card(s),
[16:56] <pindropper> pici: oh cool. dint know that
[16:57] <thien> pici, pindropper: thanks
[16:57] <Pici> !fstab | thien This may be of some help
[16:57] <miceiken> Does anyone know? I'm installing Ubuntu 11.04 from scratch, and all of the sudden when I'm at Install the base system, this error pops up (at about 90%) "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110426)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter.". But that's the CD currently in the ROM
[16:58] <sahil> synaptic error
[16:58] <sahil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/602851/
[16:59] <sahil> can anybody help?
[16:59] <ayecee> miceiken: could be bad disk?
[16:59] <miceiken> bad disk? the cd?
[16:59] <miceiken> I tried two
[16:59] <ayecee> miceiken: yes
[16:59] <Baskak> help needed
[16:59] <ayecee> then bad image, maybe.
[16:59] <miceiken> weird tho, since i got this far
[16:59] <botcity> buhman, http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-773152%5D-%5Bnew%5D-not-working-wifi-ubuntu-11-04-a-144523/
[16:59] <miceiken> well
[17:00] <miceiken> I'll ty
[17:00] <ayecee> miceiken: when you start up the cd, there's a "media test" option, right? run that, see what it says.
[17:00] <platius> cannot seem to figure out 'printer Not published See server setings" in natty
[17:00] <sahil> ayecee can ya help me...
[17:00] <ryankirkman> daxroc: All I want to do is apply this fix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1515079#post9494941
[17:00] <ayecee> sahil: try running apt-get update again
[17:01] <elb0w> If Im getting a black screen booting ubuntu 10.10 arent there some commands I can add?
[17:01] <elb0w> like noacpi or something
[17:01] <ryankirkman> daxroc: Could I just add in the line in question?
[17:02] <TheRedOctober> Anyone noticing high swap usage on a rather vanillia 11.04 desktop install?
[17:02] <ryankirkman> TheRedOctober: Not at all
[17:02] <ayecee> TheRedOctober: you are, I guess.
[17:02] <ryankirkman> TheRedOctober: How much RAM do you have?
[17:03] <TheRedOctober> ryankirkman: 3gb
[17:03] <Chipzzz> elb0w: you could try booting to the recovery console & then the failsafe video
[17:03] <ryankirkman> TheRedOctober: That
[17:03] <sahil> ayecee not working...
[17:03] <ryankirkman> TheRedOctober: That's a lot of RAM to exhaust
[17:03] <sahil> ran ...after dat too cant open syanptic
[17:04] <TheRedOctober> ryankirkman: I guess I just have too many browsertabs open, however I have 700mb swap usage (and 900mb cached)...zuper swappy
[17:04] <jatt> TheRedOctober: I have 2gb and rarely the swap is used
[17:04] <ayecee> sahil: I don't understand what you mean.
[17:04] <sipior> TheRedOctober: does iostat show substantial load on the swap partition?
[17:05] <ryankirkman> TheRedOctober: If the problem is too many browser tabs, try browsing with lynx :D
[17:05] <sahil> still i am unable to open synaptic.its showing same erroe
[17:05] <sahil> error
[17:05] <ayecee> sahil: i'm out of ideas.
[17:06] <coz_> sahil,  sorry I didnt see your intial post,, what is the error?
[17:06] <quiescens> sipior: that's not technically right, load on the swap partition can by the system swapping things out, even if it never gets swapped back in, what you need to look at is things like pagefaults which is how often a process is requesting data which had to be read from the swap system
[17:06] <thevishy> is Wing available in Ubuntu ? Python IDE
[17:06] <buhman> botcity: thoroughly interesting...
[17:06] <thevishy> Python IDE Wing is what I am looking for ......can I install via apt
[17:06] <sahil> ayecee http://paste.ubuntu.com/602859/
[17:06] <miceiken> ayecee
[17:06] <sipior> quiescens: that's why iostat lists block read and blocks written.
[17:06] <Baskak> hi, i have a failure following upgrade to 11.04: http://pastebin.com/L03HTmQB help needed
[17:06] <miceiken> it says it's valid ayecee
[17:07] <buhman> botcity: OH MY GOD!
[17:07] <daxroc> ryankirkman: not really
[17:07] <TheRedOctober> sipior: not now, iowait is 1% as well.  this machine is rather chill, just sits at work for irc, personal email, ssh home.  it is just peculiar to see swap fill up like that.
[17:07] <Pici> thevishy: I was under the impression that wing IDE was commercial, you'll likely need to check their website.
[17:07] <sipior> quiescens: i'm looking to see if most of the swap is going to memory reservations, or is actually being used for data.
[17:07] <coz_> sahil,  I have gotten this error myself ,, apparenlty those servers are down ,, or intermitently down... and you say synaptic doesnt open?
[17:07] <sahil> ayecee the initial error was http://paste.ubuntu.com/602851/
[17:07] <ayecee> miceiken: i see. that rules out that theory then.
[17:07] <thevishy> It has a personal edition too \
[17:08] <coz_> sahil,    open a terminal     gksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties-gtk.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[17:08] <sipior> TheRedOctober: if the machine is performing fine, i wouldn't worry about it :-)
[17:08] <quiescens> sipior: well i guess both ways answer that question, if its just allocations that are never used then there will be no i/o for it nor will there be any pagefaults
[17:08] <sipior> quiescens: that was my point, yes.
[17:09] <adssdsdads> hi
[17:09] <buhman> botcity: http://imagebin.org/151505
[17:09] <sahil> ayecee ya after dat?it opened the software sources.do i need to disselect somthing?
[17:09] <buhman> botcity: your google-fu is strong
[17:10] <buhman> botcity: this acer_wmi needs to be removed from all the distributions
[17:10] <buhman> I need to open up bug reports everywhere that it should be blacklisted
[17:11] <insanity99> is there anything to display cpu temp yet on ubuntu 11.04
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> buhman: log a bug
[17:11] <coz_> sahil,    disable all of the ppa's you have  under the second tab,, by the way you are talking to  coz_   not ayecee   :)
[17:11] <coz_> sahil,  or maybe you are speaking with both
[17:12] <Chipzzz> insanity99: doesn't it have the sensors applet?
[17:12] <sahil> of coz am sory didnt notice dat u r the 1 helping
[17:12] <coz_> sahil,   after uncheckint ALL  of the PPA's in that list   close that dialog... reopen synaptic,, hit the reload button
[17:12] <buhman> ActionParsnip: how is this done in ubuntu?
[17:13] <gh0st> Morning
[17:13] <insanity99> the panels are gone now
[17:13] <insanity99> i need to know my temp all the time
[17:13] <coz_> sahil,  once you have done that,, hit the   "Mark all upgrades"  button
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> !bug
[17:13] <sahil> coz still it the same error...wait i double check ur procedure
[17:13] <Chipzzz> *groans* Glad I stuck with 10.10... How about screenlets? does it run them?
[17:13] <coz_> sahil,  if something is to be upgraded,,, then hit the "Apply" button
[17:14] <nnnnnnnwerwer> hi
[17:14] <nnnnnnnwerwer> help please
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: why not boot to gnome classic
[17:14] <Pici> !ask | nnnnnnnwerwer
[17:14] <nnnnnnnwerwer> cant launch sw center in 11.04
[17:14] <Chipzzz> ActionParsnip: That's a good idea as well
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release; sudo apt-get update
[17:14] <sahil>  coz_ still it the same error...wait i double check ur procedure
[17:14] <insanity99> some reason xsensors only shows one core since updating?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: I find a lot of people saying "boohoo i'll use maverick" when gnome classic is the SAME as merick desktop...
[17:15] <coz_> sahil,   now,,, for the PPA's  ,, go to synaptic  Settings / repositories... second tab again,,, tick ONLY one ppa  at a time,,, Reload,,, Mark all upgrades,,,Apply,,, if it spits out the same error,, go back into  repostories and un tick that particular  PPA
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: use http://pastebin.com
[17:15] <gpetrakis> Why there is no Unity in 11.04 LiveCD?
[17:15] <coz_> gpetrakis,   I bet you have an nvidia card...yes?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> gpetrakis: there is if the default drivers give you 3d accelleration
[17:15] <Chipzzz> ActionParsnip: Thanks for that... I'll consider it
[17:15] <sahil> coz_ the dialog box is now not opening
[17:16] <broot> Does anyone know the location of the Ubuntu desktop, origining from [xx GB Filesystem]? Or is that not how it works?
[17:16] <gpetrakis> coz_: yes
[17:16] <coz_> sahil,   under  Settings / Repositories?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> gpetrakis: if you need proprietary drivers, install then then restart x
[17:16] <nnnnnnnwerwer> cant launch sw center in 11.04  ???
[17:16] <sahil> gksu synapticksu --desktop /usr/share/applications/software-properties-gtk.desktop /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[17:16] <sahil> this is not working
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: if you giove the output of the command I gave, we can advise
[17:16] <coz_> gpetrakis,  that's why,,, you have to install the system onto the hard drive first then install the nvidia driver,, then  restart
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> coz_: you can install prop drivers in livecd ;)
[17:17] <pentos> shi folks
[17:17] <nnnnnnnwerwer> please retype command
[17:17] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  ah very very cool..even nvidia?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> 17:14 < ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release; sudo apt-get update
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> 17:14 < ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release; sudo apt-get update
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> 17:14 < ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: can you give the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release; sudo apt-get update
[17:17] <RussellAlan> is there a way to align windows left and right with a key combo like windows 7
[17:17] <pentos> just upgraded to 11.04 and following a reboot cant get in at all....help
[17:17] <sahil> coz_m just restarting the system lets c if it helps...will be back again
[17:17] <gpetrakis> coz_: Thanks. Still in 10.10. I 'll upgrade after 2 weeks or so.
[17:17] <coz_> sahil,   did you untick ALL of the ppa's before?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> RussellAlan: the "aero snap" feature is enabled by default as  far as I remember
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.04
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> DISTRIB_CODENAME=natty
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.04"
[17:18] <miceiken> Does anyone know? I'm installing Ubuntu 11.04 from scratch, and all of the sudden when I'm at Install the base system, this error pops up (at about 90%) "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110426)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter.". But that's the CD currently in the ROM - I have verified the contents of the disk and they are
[17:18] <miceiken> valid.
[17:18] <FloodBot1> nnnnnnnwerwer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> pentos: can you expand on "get in"
[17:18] <coz_> gpetrakis,  that is a better time,, too many glitches right now
[17:18] <tatzenblogde> hello! is there a way to view a log files with all "sudo" and "gtksudo" calls?
[17:18] <Toph> Russell``,,, have you tried logging into Ubuntu Classic?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: use http://pastebin.com
[17:18] <sahil> coz_ yes...all ppa's
[17:18] <sahil> reloded after that
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:18] <miceiken> no
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> dude whtas that ?
[17:18] <coz_> sahil_,   ok  close out of synaptic,,,  open a terminal,,,,    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:18] <adssdsdads> hi
[17:18] <pentos> hi Actionpasnip
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> pastebin
[17:18] <nnnnnnnwerwer> ?
[17:18] <adssdsdads> i dont like unity
[17:18] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: I downloaded it twice, ran 2 seperate disks
[17:18] <sipior> tatzenblogde: yes, they should show up in /var/log/auth.log.
[17:19] <pentos> is there a way to cht 1-1 as this is a little confusing?
[17:19] <insanity99> some reason xsensors only shows one core since updating?
[17:19] <catphish> what is the best way to make ubuntu server use the mose recent kernel? i notice it is using a fairly old one compared with what is in the repos
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: run: sudo apt-get update     then copy the output and visit the site and upload the text, it will make the page change and you can copy / paste the url here
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: doesn't answer the question, did you MD5 test the ISO?
[17:19] <gpetrakis> adssdsdads: That's because you 're not used to it yet.
[17:19] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: no, I don't know how I do that
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | miceiken
[17:19] <pentos> i cant get in to the system at all -= this is a nother pc
[17:19] <rapeman> I'd like to  interject, ubottu. What you're referring to as "Linux" is, in fact, GNU/Linux.
[17:19] <Bunbury> I have a no permission erro for ~/.ICEauthority after installing gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04 anyone can help?
[17:20] <sipior> rapeman: go away.
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: boot to root recovery mode and chown the file back to your user
[17:20] <pentos> on booting I just get a small white rectablge in the centre, with occasioanally loving bizarre characters
[17:20] <coz_> rapeman,   just for info    ubottu is a bot  not a real person :)
[17:20] <pentos> moving bizarre characters LOL
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> !cookie | rapeman
[17:20] <pentos> as in text
[17:21] <coz_> sahil,   still here?
[17:21] <sipior> coz_: rapeman is likely also a bot (the gnu/linux thing shows up fairly often here, with precisely the same formulation).
[17:21] <rapeman> I'd like to interject, sipior. What you're referring to as "Linux" is, in fact, GNU/Linux.
[17:21] <sipior> see?
[17:21] <coz_> ah
[17:21] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: They are the same.
[17:21] <coz_> sahil,   did that work?
[17:21] <tatzenblogde> thanks sipior - thats what i wanted :D
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: ok and are you using CD or USB?
[17:21] <pentos> It wont even boot into previous installs
[17:21] <Bunbury> permission is already -rw-------
[17:21] <pentos> same issue
[17:22] <sipior> the funny thing is that i actually called it gnu/linux...
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> please retype commandIgn http://dl.google.com stable InRelease
[17:22] <Bunbury> permission is already -rw-------  user user
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com natty InRelease
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> Ign http://in.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates InRelease
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: is it owned by your username though?
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> Get:1 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [197 B]
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> Hit http://in.archive.ubuntu.com natty Release.gpg
[17:22] <FloodBot1> nnnnnnnwerwer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <nnnnnnnwerwer> Get:2 http://in.archive.ubuntu.com natty-updates Release.gpg [198 B]
[17:22] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: CD
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> nnnnnnnwerwer: pastebin the error as I said please
[17:22] <coz_> sahil,   also ,, and for everyone else,,, when speaking to someone in particular    type the first 2 or 3  letters of their name,, hit Tab key to complete it  ,, this way that person will be alerted on their end
[17:22] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: does it have anything to do with the drive im installing it to?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: did you burn the CD as SLOWLY as possible?#
[17:22] <coz_> sahil,    so did that  terminal command work?
[17:22] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: no, default speed i take it
[17:22] <sahil> coz_, no
[17:23] <insanity99> ?
[17:23] <pentos> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[17:23] <coz_> sahil,  ok open a terminal again
[17:23] <sahil> Reading package lists... Error!
[17:23] <sahil> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[17:23] <sahil> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages
[17:23] <sahil> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: when the CD starts to boot and you see the keyboard and stickman, press SPACE and test the CD for defects, also test the RAM
[17:23] <FloodBot1> sahil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <coz_> sahil,   copy and paste t his next command into it
[17:23] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip:  -rw------- user user
[17:23] <coz_> sahil,     sudo mv /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin
[17:23] <coz_> restart synaptic
[17:23] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: I've checked the CD for defects, it says it's valid
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: then you have wrire and read access
[17:23] <coz_> sahil,   sorry that's wrong
[17:23] <elb0w> I've installed ubuntu on a machine that runs a nvidia card and drivers arent there by default. I changed to ro nomodeset single and booted into netshell and installed Nvidia drivers. When I try to reboot now I just go into power saving mode. Any ideas?
[17:23] <coz_> sahil,    sudo mv /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin       then    sudo mv /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> elb0w: boot to root recovery mode and run: nvidia-xconfig; reboot
[17:24] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip:  so how do I solve it, I cant boot into gnome
[17:24] <miceiken> 0,
[17:24] <coz_> sahil,  then  try to reopen synaptic package manager
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: can you log on as another user?
[17:24] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip: that is the only user I created from a fresh install
[17:25] <sahil> coz_, mv: missing destination file operand after `/var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin'
[17:25] <sahil> Try `mv --help' for more information
[17:25] <coz_> sahil,  sorry my mistake
[17:25] <broot> I'm currently on a LiveCD, due to my regular Ubuntu partition not working -- how would I go ahead and *fix* the regular one now?
[17:25] <vooze> Anyone who can run Radio Tray on Natty??
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: drop to root recovery console and make a fresh user
[17:26] <S-M-Gl> Can someone explain what is the benefit of running a program in Daemon?
[17:26] <IdleOne> !pastebin > nnnnweerer
[17:26] <coz_> sahil,
[17:26] <coz_> sudo mv /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin /home/yourname/Desktop       the   "yourname"  is your account name
[17:26] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip: k
[17:26] <sahil> coz_, nevermind coz_  atleast u are trying to share my headache
[17:26] <rumpe1> !daemon
[17:26] <nnnnweerer> http://pastebin.com/BSYQjbLW
[17:26] <thien> when i mount /dev/sda6, unity bar show it's shortcut, can i hide it?
[17:26] <coz_> sahil,   then
[17:26] <coz_> sudo mv /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin  /home/yourname/Desktop
[17:26] <pentos> just upgraded to 11.04 and following a reboot cant get in at all....help
[17:27] <joH28> Guys, hello! Does anybody know if Wubi will not conflict with GRUB2? I have Meerkat installed but I'd like to try Natty on Wubi install. I also have it on VBox, but would like to see the difference on Wubi.
[17:27] <nnnnweerer> actionparsnip check the pase
[17:27] <sahil> coz_, urname=computername or account name?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: that's exactly what I wanted.
[17:27] <nnnnweerer> ok
[17:27] <coz_> sahil,  yes your account name
[17:27] <nnnnweerer> cool
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: that ppa is no longer around
[17:27] <broot> I'm currently on a LiveCD, due to my regular Ubuntu partition not working -- how would I go ahead and *fix* the regular one now?
[17:27] <nnnnweerer> what to do then ?????
[17:27] <coz_> broot,   not working in what manner.. it doesnt boot?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: that shouldn't stop it running though. If you run:  sudo apt-get -y upgrade     is it ok?
[17:28] <pentos> It started off as an issue with evolution, following the upgrade to 11.04
[17:28] <broot> coz_: Correct. :) It actually doesn't find the harddrive. http://paste.ubuntu.com/602816/ in particular.
[17:28] <nnnnweerer> action: it was working till yesterday now nt lanuching
[17:28] <thummper> Hi, does anyone know if i can remove workspaces? i find them kind of annoying :3
[17:28] <sahil> coz_, mv: cannot move `/var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin' to `/home/yourname/Desktop': No such file or directory
[17:28] <nnnnweerer> 0 upgarded
[17:28] <pentos>  I tried to open evolution but it appeared to hang when trying to retrieve files ie went greyed out..
[17:28] <sahil> coz_, my bad wait
[17:29] <coz_> sahil,    'yourname"  is the name that you use on the system...  not "yourname"  but the actual name ... on my system it is   cosimo321
[17:29] <joH28> Anybody has installed Natty on Wubi while dual-booted to  Windows and Ubuntu Meerkat/Lynx? Will it not conflict with GRUB2?
[17:29] <pentos> I rebooted a couple of tuimes but the same problem persisted.
[17:29] <smitpatel24> I am unable to change pointer in 11.04 can anyone help me with this?
[17:29] <coz_> smitpatel24,   do you have compiz running as well?
[17:29] <smitpatel24> @coz_ yes
[17:29] <mgaunard> if I write some code in /etc/init.d/networking, sudo service networking start doesn't seem to execute it
[17:29] <pentos>  In the end, on reboot I seletd start with prompt and opp[ted for "repair broken files"...
[17:30] <mgaunard> how do you customize upstart scripts?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: ok try software centre
[17:30] <sahil> coz_, done there is now two files in my desktop now
[17:30] <coz_> smitpatel24,  ok open a terminal       sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme   choose the number of the theme you want  then hit enter    restart x  or reboot and it should be fine
[17:30] <pentos>  And ever since then all I get at boot is a small white rectangle with starge text objects
[17:30] <Krishnandu> Guys any solution to the most known problem of black screen on boot after upgrading??
[17:30] <elb0w> ActionParsnip, that didnt work
[17:30] <coz_> sahil,   ok cool... now reopen  synaptic package manager
[17:30] <nnnnweerer> that is what i am unable to launch
[17:30] <nnnnweerer> wheni click on it ni respocse
[17:31] <coz_> sahil,   hit the RELOAD  button then the  Mark all upgrades   button
[17:31] <Chipzzz> thummper: right click on them in the lower right corner, select preferences & select how many you want (evidently 1)
[17:31] <pentos> Krishnandu: I may hava  similar prob
[17:31] <nnnnweerer> sorry for the typo
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> elb0w: try adding the boot option: nomodeset
[17:31] <elb0w> ActionParsnip, should it be there by default?
[17:31] <sahil> coz_, *sigh* still same
[17:31] <elb0w> I mean change the default*
[17:31] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: running a memtest now, what happens if there are errors?
[17:31] <Krishnandu> I've NVIDIA card, and when I go to Additional Drivers it says It's activated but not in use...why so?? And what's being use if NVIDIA Driver is not getting used??
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: run it from terminal with:  gksudo software-center     does it work?
[17:31] <coz_> sahil,   ooo... then I am puzzled
[17:31] <Krishnandu> pentos, Yup, I found many in ubuntuforums, but no one has solution to this...
[17:31] <thummper> Chipzzz: will that work for 11.04?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: bad: http://billy-oneal.com/forums/memTest/memtestFail.png
[17:32] <coz_> sahil,   try a reboot of the system.. and try synaptic again,or,   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:32] <arvut> what is the size of a standard parameter for a ext4 filesystem and is it a good idea to change it? (I'm partitioning a disk for installation atm, using 4.1GB)
[17:32] <jwmto> I'm having a natty screen problem: when I switch between applications the application I switch too appears frozen until I stimulate it somehow like rolling up the window and rolling it back down.  Any ideas?  A compiz problem?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: good: http://www.playtool.com/pages/memtest/memtest86.jpg
[17:32] <nnnnweerer> nah man no response
[17:32] <pentos> Krishnandu: is thee a roll back option ?
[17:32] <jwmto> ActionParsnip: Thanks for your help the other day with my sound problem: all is well now
[17:32] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: sure, but what do I do if it's errornous
[17:32] <Chipzzz> thummper: I don't know... I haven't upgraded but I would expect that it would
[17:32] <coz_> sahil,   those 2 files on the desktop can be deleted
[17:32] <tsrk> How do I add kernel parameters?
[17:32] <sahil> coz_,  btw wats the problem?broken package?messed up settings?
[17:33] <mordof> looking for the link to show reinstalling Grub 2 on a new partition. the whole chroot then mount to /dev, bind mounting folders, etc
[17:33] <mordof> anyone know where that is?
[17:33] <coz_> sahil,  not sure ,, the error points to one of the PPA  links you have
[17:33] <thummper> Chipzzz: if i right click the Workspace Switcher i don't get anything
[17:33] <Krishnandu> pentos, Nope, uninstall option is there, though I'm not very much into it, the main concern is, it doesn't boot with the newest kernel, Black Screen...
[17:33] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip: created a new user and tried login to gnome get the same error
[17:33] <coz_> sahil,    not sure what it is for ,, however,, what we did ,, especially the  disabling of the PPA's  should have remedied this
[17:33] <sahil> all these may  hav  hapened after hot restart
[17:33] <Krishnandu> pentos, But boots fine with the Previous Kernel(Last kernel of maverick update)
[17:33] <Chipzzz> sahil: it sounds like there might be something wrong with the repository
[17:34] <broot> When I'm going to run "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/repair", should the sdax be of my regular partition, or the one I'm currently on?
[17:34] <mindkeep> hello, using 11.04 Unity, is there anything that parallels an application dock? I feel like there is no visible notifications for things like pidgin and thunderbird
[17:34] <pentos> Krishnandu: so maybe boot from a disk and do a fresh install?
[17:34] <coz_> sahil, `  do a complete shutdown,,, then restart the system
[17:34] <sahil> what if i clear  the lib folder?
[17:34] <Chipzzz> thummper: does 11.04 have a configuration editor?
[17:34] <coz_> sahil,  the lib folder?  I dont think you want to do that
[17:34] <Distress> Why is my firefox plugin container using 470 mb of memory? I only have adblock plus installed atm
[17:34] <constl> How can you activate proprietary drivers for graphics cards? On the "additional drivers" i can see that ubuntu recommends one but it's not actually activated
[17:35] <thummper> Chipzzz: I have no idea, I’ve only just got Ubuntu.
[17:35] <kbrosnan> Distress: plugin container is not extensions, it is stuff like Adobe Flash
[17:35] <constl> or actually it is "activated but not currenlty in use"
[17:35] <Distress> ah, that explains it
[17:35] <Krishnandu> pentos, I don't think so, it's my primary OS, and I don't want to loose all the data...
[17:35] <Krishnandu> I'm using it since Lucid
[17:35] <jwmto> Anyone experiencing screen freezes in Natty that can be unfrozen by rolling the window up and down?
[17:35] <sahil> oh yes my bad...lib/apt list.if i clear the list folder then?
[17:35] <Chipzzz> thummper: it would be in Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor
[17:35] <pentos> Krishnandu: me too. so what's the fix? any idea?
[17:36] <nnnnweerer> cant launch software center in natty 11.04 ???????????/
[17:36] <Krishnandu> pentos, Nope, lets wait...as we are traveling in the same boat.!! :)
[17:36] <Krishnandu> pentos, Lauchpad already has many reports regarding this, lets see what happens...if they can fix it up...
[17:36] <sahil> coz_, can i backup the list folder nd delate the unoffical source files?
[17:37] <coz_> sahil,   well ,, you can if you have the default sources list ,, yes,
[17:37] <Bunbury> Im getting cant update ~/.ICEauthority with fresh install and new user any help?
[17:37] <pentos> Krishnandu: i hope its soon - i got a lot to do
[17:37] <speedy|2> Question: Can the Sidebar in Natty be resized instead of taking up the whole left side of screen? However I did resize the icons and such as i have found that
[17:38] <insanity99> i think i like unity now, the keyboard shortcuts are great
[17:38] <thummper> Chipzzz: where can i find the Application folder? there’s just a search thingy now
[17:38] <sahil> coz_, any code for that? :)
[17:38] <coz_> sahil,   you can generate the list from here  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:38] <mindkeep> insanity99: assuming that you know them, as a new user it's maddening
[17:38] <speedy|2> compiz does not play well in natty on some things
[17:38] <Krishnandu> pentos, Same here...!! Wish they fix it soon, but I strongly think it's not a general bug, and has something to do with NVIDIA Cards, and as far I know they have modified the Graphics thing, and something is creating this problem. As all of us are able to boot using previous kernel
[17:38] <Laggg> my ubuntu is fuct up
[17:38] <coz_> sahil,   then copy that downloaded list to the sources.list on your system after deleting the original entries
[17:39] <Bunbury> anyone running gnome 3 on natty?
[17:39] <Chipzzz> thummper: dunno... try searching for 'configuration editor'...
[17:39] <tamale_> Now I'm just getting this error when trying to upgrade: E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'.Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[17:39] <sahil> coz_, that means i can clear entire list folder?
[17:39] <insanity99> i dont really use compiz, seems like a waste
[17:39] <insanity99> whats gnome 3 like?
[17:39] <coz_> sahil,   the /etc/apt/soruces.list   ,,, yes
[17:39] <mindkeep> I completely broke my desktop just trying to tweak compiz a bit, had to wipe a handful of config directories to get back to a sane state
[17:39] <Bunbury> i dont know i cant bott into it
[17:40] <BlaDe^> Is the slow wifi bug fixed yet?
[17:40] <Bunbury> boot
[17:40] <thummper> Chipzzz: i found a command for it and opened it up, what now?
[17:40] <messin20> cant launch software center in natty 11.04
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install software-center
[17:40] <mindkeep> on the up side firefox 4 is awesome
[17:40] <sahil> coz_, no.var/lib/aptlists
[17:40] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip: created a new user and tried login to gnome get the same error
[17:40] <pentos> Krishnandu: could be - I have an invidia card too. bugger
[17:40] <coz_> sahil,     sudo gedit   /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:40] <sahil> coz_, no.var/lib/apt/lists
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Bunbury: not sure then dude
[17:40] <Samo502> do you have to run update-manager with any special parameters to update from Natty beta to regular Natty?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> mindkeep: debatable :)
[17:40] <Krishnandu> pentos, Just got this...check it out : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743386
[17:40] <arvut> ah, here it is.
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Samo502: none, just run updates and you will have stable
[17:41] <joH28> Anybody has installed Natty on Wubi while dual-booted to  Windows and Ubuntu Meerkat/Lynx? Will it not conflict with GRUB2?
[17:41] <Samo502> ActionParsnip: ah, i was thinking maybe it'd require -d, just making sure
[17:41] <Bunbury> ActionParsnip: do u use gnome 3 on natty and does /var/lib/gdm need some permissions?
[17:41] <insanity99> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html
[17:41] <arvut> is there a good reason to make the swap bigger than the ram when I have 2gb of ddr2 ram?
[17:41] <joH28> anyone?
[17:41] <Chipzzz> thummper: you should be able to set the number of workspaces using it although I don't exactly how... in earlier versions, you would look in desktop->applications->window_manager
[17:41] <IdleOne> !shortcuts > insanity99
[17:42] <nnnnweerer> action : it worked
[17:42] <nnnnweerer> thanks a ton man
[17:42] <nnnnweerer> exit
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> nnnnweerer: np man
[17:42] <CignoNero> no joh28 i've installed ubuntu over windows and opensuse dual-booted and for me no conflict
[17:42] <stephan_> hey, I have a question. I am running natty with unity and my clock applet in the panel is missing. How can I restore it?
[17:43] <thien> what will happen if i del a mount point, is it del data in the filesystem?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> thummper: if you use compiz, its set in ccsm under general options -> desktop size tab
[17:43] <jrib> thien: if it's mounted, sure
[17:43] <thummper> Chipzzz: there's nothing staring with 'w' in the apps bit =/
[17:43] <joH28> CignoNero, thanks. So it wil not write to the MBR yes?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> thien: if the partition is mounted then I believe it will, if nothing is mounted then its ok
[17:44] <sahil> coz_,  thats mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/602875/
[17:44] <Chipzzz> thummper: look a little farther up at ActionParsnip's advice... he knows 11.04
[17:44] <silvertip257> Has anyone PXE booted an Ubuntu live CD and averted problems with NetworkManager?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
[17:44] <coz_> sahil,  that is the new generated list ...yes?
[17:44] <thummper> ActionParsnip: i don't have compiz
[17:44] <pentos> Krishnandu: got it thanks. not sure it helps much tho - how can w run a script when we cant see the screen ? :(
[17:44] <Bunbury> is anyone running gnome 3 on natty?
[17:45] <joH28> arvut, 2GB SWAP is fine for using hibernate and suspend. As far as bigger goes, not if you are running too man apps that the 2GB is used up Linux will start using swap.
[17:45] <thummper> ActionParsnip: well, i don't think i have.. i didn't find anything with the search
[17:46] <mindkeep> hello, using 11.04 Unity, is there anything that parallels an application dock? I feel like there is no visible notifications for things like pidgin and thunderbird
[17:46] <sahil_> coz_, no..its my own list
[17:46] <CignoNero> JoH28 i'm not an expert but i can say i've installed ubuntu many times on different configuration and grub ever recognized all operating system on my lapton i never had problem
[17:46] <afkaway> > check out my new secure chatsystem..
[17:46] <afkaway> > ssh -2Cc blowfish-cbc -p 20622 -l user magizian.dyndns.org
[17:46] <afkaway> > or
[17:46] <afkaway> > ssh -2Cc blowfish-cbc -p 20622 -l user magizian.dyndns.org
[17:46] <afkaway> > whichevers faster. Password is freeaccess
[17:46] <FloodBot1> afkaway: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <afkaway> > Let me know if you want you want a personal account or a group account
[17:46] <afkaway> > you can have your own or share several of them on the same account like user:freeaccess   and have up to 250 screens
[17:46] <sahil_> restarted my pc still the same problem
[17:46] <pentos> Krishnandu: do you think a video card with a direfent chipset might be ok?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> mindkeep: mine has the system tray, transmission and such sit in there
[17:46] <thummper> ActionParsnip: oh nvm i do xD, but how do i open it?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> thummper: press ALT+F2 and run: ccsm
[17:47] <coz_> sahil_,  ah ok   then  download the generated list,,, open yours with   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list,,, delete  the contents and replace it with the new generated list and save
[17:47] <Pici> afkaway: That has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[17:47] <IdleOne> afkaway: Please don't spam in Ubuntu channels.
[17:47] <joH28> CignoNero, OK. I guess that's it. Gonna try Natty soon. Thanks!
[17:47] <sahil_> coz_ can u send me the link?again?
[17:48] <coz_> sahil_,     http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:48] <CignoNero> you are really welcome joH28 :)
[17:48] <joH28> mindkeep, the launcher is the app dock in one the way the designed it.
[17:48] <mindkeep> ActionParsnip: is that something else to install, or just the left side? that doesn't do well for status notification
[17:49] <user82> hi. my banshee music is on my ntfs windows drive. how can i automount it on booting?
[17:49] <james_> hi all
[17:49] <stefg> !mount
[17:49] <mindkeep> also I miss having a running performance monitor in the dock, all you get are static icons from dasher
[17:49] <LHR_crew> hello people! I have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my Samsung netbook and hasn't given me problems (wifi only has got a few issues). did an update today and I've lost the side menu. I don't know what to do... I have tried to restart many times but every time there is nothing but my wallpaper on the screen.. any suggestions???
[17:49] <james_> my touchpad vertical scroll isn't working
[17:50] <TheRedOctober> Anyone know the prefferred way to install ruby 1.9.1 in ubuntu?
[17:50] <stefg> !fstab
[17:50] <broot> Does anyone know where the "Rescue System" is? On the LiveCD, that is.
[17:50] <thummper> ActionParsnip: ah done it thanks :D
[17:50] <stefg> !fstab | user82
[17:50] <Chipzzz> user82: put it in your fstab to make the mount persistant
[17:50] <user82> okay..
[17:50] <xteejx> Can someone help me with bundler (http://phototour.cs.washington.edu/bundler/) I can't seem to find the right options for the --add_images option
[17:50] <user82> can i also do mount command into rc.local?
[17:50] <mindkeep> Is there any way to add things to the top bar? next to volume and such?
[17:51] <tomekh> hi. accidentaly i have removed $HOME/.bash_logout - anyone can pastebin me content of this file?
[17:51] <joH28> user82, yes you can but fstab is the recommended way to do it
[17:51] <coz_> mindkeep,  no  unless you find new indicators...take a look here for a few things to do    http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[17:51] <stefg> user82: you could, but there are reasons to use fstab
[17:51] <user82> ok..ill do that
[17:51] <xteejx> tomekh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602880/
[17:51] <mindkeep> thanks coz_
[17:52] <coz_> mindkeep,   the upper panel is NOT a gnome panel  anylonger at least not in Unity
[17:52] <LHR_crew> hello people! I have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my Samsung netbook and hasn't given me problems (wifi only has got a few issues). did an update today and I've lost the side menu. I don't know what to do... I have tried to restart many times but every time there is nothing but my wallpaper on the screen.. any suggestions???
[17:52] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: I'm running the memtest, but i'm just gonna ask again in case somebody else might have an idea
[17:52] <tomekh> xteejx: thanks mate.
[17:52] <xteejx> tomekh: No prob :)
[17:52] <afkaway> > ..check out my new secure chatsystem.. http://pastebin.com/5VJUS6rn
[17:52] <miceiken> Does anyone know what's wrong? I'm installing Ubuntu 11.04 from scratch, and all of the sudden when I'm at Install the base system, this error pops up (at about 90%) "Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64 (20110426)' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter.". But that's the CD currently in the ROM - I have verified the contents of the disk and
[17:52] <miceiken> they are valid (the md5 hasehs match too)
[17:52] <bloodscalp> Little question. I've recently installed wine and there is a licence agreement of ttf-mscorefonts to accept. The "gui" (it's in a terminal) finishes qith <ok> but I can't find a way to accept it, and finish the install proprely.
[17:52] <sahil_> coz_, seems like working...*crosses finger*
[17:52] <coz_> sahil_,  cool
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> bloodscalp: use tab then enter
[17:53] <coz_> miceiken,   mm you might want to try either the alternate cd or the mini cd
[17:53] <coz_> miceiken,  neither of which is a live cd
[17:53] <miceiken> is this a live cd?
[17:53] <miceiken> :P
[17:53] <bloodscalp> ActionParsnip, omg, thank u, i feel quite stupid
[17:53] <sahil_> coz_, ****YAPPIEEEEEEE*
[17:53] <joH28> LHR_crew, 10.10 with the netbook edition?
[17:53] <coz_> miceiken,   I dont know  did you download the live cd/
[17:53] <stefg> miceiken: i had this, too with some server installs form CD... unsolved bug, praise the ubuntu quality assurance
[17:53] <coz_> sahil_,   there go guy :)
[17:54] <LHR_crew> hi joh28... yes... did the update as prompted...
[17:54] <vorlov> hello
[17:54] <vorlov> does anyone here have experience with the AMI provided by Ubuntu on Amazon?
[17:54] <coz_> miceiken,  if you want a link to the mini cd which is only 19 megs  I have it here
[17:54] <vorlov> specifically with the new natty one
[17:54] <vorlov> natty release
[17:54] <miceiken> coz_: the server edition?
[17:54] <sahil_> coz_, *shakes hand**hugs*thnx bro...i cud never had guessed the soln of the problem
[17:55] <joH28> LHR_crew, you sure it was not upgrade?
[17:55] <LHR_crew> upgrade.. sorry... :)
[17:55] <coz_> miceiken,  actually it is for any of the options and I believe server is there as well... it will eventually give a list of what you might want to install,,,arrows to scroll the list    SPACEBAR  to select an item
[17:55] <LHR_crew> i am actually new to all of this.. my ex put ubuntu on my netbook
[17:55] <coz_> miceiken,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/mini.iso
[17:55] <miceiken> coz_: so how does it work? download everything?
[17:56] <coz_>   miceiken  its only  19 megs and it does indeed install via the net
[17:56] <miceiken> stefg: so it's a bug? did you solve it somehow
[17:56] <joH28> LHR_crew,  I think you've upgraded to 11.04. On mine it gave me that prompt too.
[17:56] <miceiken> coz_: okay, I guess i'll try
[17:56] <vorlov> im trying to figure out why the new natty image for i386 isn't available on the m1.large... but the amd version is available on a large instanfe
[17:56] <vorlov> instance
[17:56] <vorlov> ?
[17:56] <coz_> miceiken,  i have come to rely on the mini.iso images  for time  and a bit more assureance that the download itself will most likely not be corruped  with 19 megs :)
[17:56] <stefg> miceiken: it starts te installer from a ramdisk and d/l's all the packages directly from the repos. you only d/l what you want, and you have the newest version
[17:56] <LHR_crew> joH28 yes.. it think that is the upgrade it was say it was installing... what did you do
[17:56] <coz_> miceiken,  corrupted I meant
[17:57] <tomekh> if i do (in command line): Name_of_dir_[and tab here], bash doesn't append "/" at end of dir, but it appends whitespace. where to fix that?
[17:57] <arvut> joH28: ty, I probably wont do that. 2gb mem is enough for what I do on the laptop. desktop has 8gb tho, you can probably understand why ;)
[17:57] <afkaway> > ..check out my new secure chatsystem.. http://pastebin.com/5VJUS6rn
[17:57] <afkaway> > ..check out my latest projects.. http://magizian.hopto.org
[17:57] <joH28> LHR_crew, I didn't. I'm staying on 10.10. I'll wait for 11.10 before I upgrade. :D
[17:57] <miceiken> coz_: and it's reliable?
[17:58] <sahil_> coz_, one thing :is there no global menu support for synaptic?even the new scrollbars(ayanta scrollbars or smthing) sometimes appear in synamtic and mostly no
[17:58] <miceiken> stefg: is there some kind of option for default select?
[17:58] <llutz> tomekh: do you have an "adobe" or "flashplugin" file in /etc//bash_completion.d/ ?
[17:58] <Trueman> Hi, guys! Have somebody edid.bin file for samsung r560-bs02 or for monitor with native resolution 1650x1050_60? I have a problem when nvidia driver tries to detect EDID information from my LCD monitor. Help!
[17:58] <coz_> miceiken,  it is a text install although there is a gui like thingy,,, not difficult to deal with,, just remember,,, when you get the list of possible installs  ,, space bar is the key to tick the box,,although if you choose nothing you will boot into text console and you can install from there if you likje
[17:58] <coz_> like
[17:59] <joH28> arvut, Well yeah, but can you still suspend/hibernate on an 8GB RAM with less swap? Mine always complains swap is not sufficient. Never tried to check if there was a way around that. :)
[17:59] <tomekh> llutz: i do not have "adobe" or "flashplugin", but i have acroread.sh :)
[17:59] <miceiken> coz_: text install? like the default one then? :P
[17:59] <tomekh> llutz: which i have installed yesterday :)
[17:59] <llutz> tomekh: sry, acroread it is, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/716008
[17:59] <LHR_crew> joH28 how to downgrade?
[17:59] <coz_> miceiken,   sort of... try it out,, you are bound to install it if you dont like it
[17:59] <llutz> tomekh: easiest: delete that file
[17:59] <sahil_>  coz_, one thing :is there no global menu support for synaptic?even the new scrollbars(ayanta scrollbars or smthing) sometimes appear in synaptic and mostly no
[18:00] <stefg> miceiken: in the process  you will get a task selection. you can either choose meta-packages (like ubuntu-desktop) or even individual packages
[18:00] <miceiken> okay coz_: trying now, this is for 11.04?
[18:00] <tomekh> llutz: thanks, i'll check that bug
[18:00] <miceiken> stefg: okay im gonna boot it up and see how it looks
[18:00] <stefg> !minimal
[18:00] <coz_> sahil_,   no   not that I amware of
[18:00] <Laggg> Setting Update "initiate_all_edge"
[18:01] <Laggg> my terminal is frozen there
[18:01] <Laggg> after running compiz --replace
[18:01] <joH28> LHR_crew, I'm afraid there is no rollback option save for reinstalling 10.10 (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). However if you have /home on a separate partition, it shouldn't be too hard.
[18:01] <coz_> miceiken,  it is indeed  11.04   the background shoule be that purple color
[18:01] <miceiken> no purple color here
[18:01] <sahil_> kk cya guys later.gotta DBMS exam tommorow tc
[18:01] <miceiken> itt looks all black to me :P
[18:01] <coz_> miceiken,  the ONLY issue with mini  iso  is it cannot be used on usb
[18:01] <tomekh> llutz: yeah, sed -i "s/_filedir/_filedir_acroread/" /etc/bash_completion.d/acroread.sh helped :)
[18:01] <coz_> miceiken,   did you burn to disk/
[18:01] <coz_> ??
[18:01] <BotenAnna> hello all, I just updated to 11.04 and it booted up and got to the login screen, but when I log in it just shows the purple swirl wallpaper and sits there and compiz is reporting 99% cpu time on top
[18:01] <Jordan_U> coz_: Yes it can.
[18:01] <miceiken> coz_ yes
[18:01] <coz_> Jordan_U,  cool
[18:02] <BotenAnna> i rebooted, same thing again
[18:02] <BotenAnna> any idea what might be wrong?
[18:02] <miceiken> oh
[18:02] <miceiken> now its purple
[18:02] <fayenia> ppl i have a problem i was configuring my ati radeon Target, everything was working just fine before that, now my screen is all messed up and freezed im in recovery mode, i tryed to uninstall them and reinstall them and the problem persist , i also tried to "dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg"
[18:02] <coz_> miceiken,   there you go
[18:02] <Jordan_U> coz_: Unetbootin is named as such because (IIRC) the netboot images (like mini.iso) are particularly easy to boot from USB :)
[18:02] <volvering> hi some one know how to change the name on terminal? my one is like this "volvering@volvering-G71V-Invalid-entry-length-0-DMI-table-is-broken-Stop:~$ "
[18:02] <jbwiv_> guys, on Unity, I have the little blue triangle thingy up at the top left indicating some sort of notification, but I can't find what's triggering it. Does this thing log anywhere?
[18:03] <coz_> Jordan_U,   ok I will try that,, it certainly will be an advantage :)
[18:03] <miceiken> coz_: all the specifics come later, right?
[18:03] <eiriksvin> is there a way to get tranparent windows in Natty?
[18:03] <miceiken> I pressed install instead of command-line install
[18:03] <miceiken> :P
[18:03]  * kanneblei wonders why FloodBot1 just asked someone on ubuntu-unregged if P=NP... if that guy can answer that one I'm betting he could get some money out of it.
[18:03] <coz_> miceiken,  all of the possible installs indeed will come later,, so give it time
[18:03] <coz_> miceiken,  you wont miss it :)
[18:04] <miceiken> coz_: okay, thanks for your help
[18:04] <miceiken> stefg: you too :)
[18:04] <stefg> np
[18:04] <arvut> joH28: my win7 worked fine until 2 days ago. all hibernation attempts since then has failed :/ gonna try it on ubuntu and gentoo once I have those installed.
[18:04] <coz_> miceiken,  no problem... let me know if that works better for you
[18:04] <miceiken> Installing the base system now, so we'll see soon
[18:05] <BotenAnna> ugh I just logged in as Ubuntu Classic
[18:05] <Trueman> Guys, has somebody EDID.bin file for LCD with native resolution 1650x1050_60?
[18:05] <BotenAnna> worrying because I was hoping to switch to Unity
[18:05] <BotenAnna> but I guess not :(
[18:05] <BotenAnna> but at least it works
[18:05] <miceiken> suppose I wouldnt had the issue in the first place if I used USB?
[18:05] <mang0> arghhh!
[18:05] <LHR_crew> joH28 I didn't understand the last msg u sent... can u pvt me?
[18:05] <mang0> I'm having problems installing
[18:05] <mang0> ;__;
[18:05] <mang0> wait a sec. Let me link.
[18:05] <miceiken> I probably used 6 cds to now
[18:05] <miceiken> lol
[18:05] <stefg> BotenAnna: this most likely means that your 3D acceleration does not work
[18:06] <blargg> Please point me to a web page describing the purpose of SCSI emulation of IDE hard disks. I've looked for a long time now but can't find any explanation for this (plenty reasons for CD/DVD drives, but not hard drives).
[18:06] <francesc1> has anyone in here made the switch to 11.04
[18:06] <bubu> Guys, has somebody EDID.bin file for LCD with native resolution 1650x1050_60?
[18:06] <mang0> Okay guys, I'm having real big problem installing Ubuntu: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text Read that please.
[18:06] <miceiken> francesc1: I did on my server, and it ended in a disaster because I didnt do it properly
[18:06] <blargg> For example, I have an SATA HD but it shows up as /dev/sda, not /dev/hda
[18:06] <arand> francesc1: Many, do you have a support question?
[18:06] <miceiken> francesc1: do the do-release-upgrade! :)
[18:07] <mang0> oh, and PM me the answer, as I'm just going to dinner. Thanks!
[18:07] <stefg> !libata
[18:07] <mang0|OUT> oops
[18:07] <eiriksvin> is there a way to get tranparent windows in Natty? i want to be able to see through any windows  i have up
[18:07] <francesc1> miceiken: thats what ii am doing now.. normally i just do a fresh install ... thought i d give this a try... hopefully all goes well
[18:07] <bubu> Guys, has anyone EDID.bin file for LCD monitor with native resolution 1650x1050_60?
[18:07] <miceiken> francesc1: I did a sources.list update, then ran normal apt-get upgrade etc
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> bubu: this has a link to it: http://www.hatmaandnovi.com/1/post/2010/7/how-to-install-nvidia-g210m-driver-and-internal-mic-on-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala-and-sony-vaio-vpccw18fj.html
[18:08] <miceiken> well, it fucked everything up
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> bubu: please don't repeat that often, it achieves very little
[18:08] <bubu> ActionParsnip: thanks
[18:08] <bubu> ActionParsnip: ok
[18:08] <miceiken> Okay, new question: I have 2 harddrives, now the mini installer probably cleans out the one I selected, right? But the other one I want to format aswell, how do I go about to do this?
[18:08] <stefg> blargg:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[18:09] <pkkm> What does the 'd' stand for in /etc/init.d and conf.d?
[18:09] <merlin2049er> can i get some gadgets for my desktop in 11.04?
[18:09] <llutz> pkkm: config-DIR
[18:09] <BotenAnna> stefg: I've upgraded on other computers (ok all virtual machines) and it just tells me as such and boots into classic. idefk what's going on here
[18:09] <IdleOne> !language | miceiken
[18:09] <pkkm> llutz, thanks.
[18:09] <miceiken> sorry
[18:09] <merlin2049er> my virtual box and vuze stopped working in 11.04
[18:09] <yoyoned> miceiken: what do you wnat to do with the second drive
[18:09] <miceiken> yohyoh: format it
[18:09] <miceiken> like remove all data
[18:10] <Comthre3> hi all,,
[18:10] <Comthre3> quick question,, I've recently upgraded to Natty 11.04 among my other issues, Transmission (bittorrent clietn) just stopped wokring,, all ports are open, and the client itself is the latest verstion 2.22
[18:10] <BotenAnna> virtualbox works with unity but you have to install some beta guest tools (or get them through apt) and enable 3d accelration
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Comthre3: does it work as another user
[18:10] <BotenAnna> though when im running vbox i'm running it in windows, no idea about a linux host
[18:10] <yoyoned> miceiken: do you plan on using it with ubuntu and if so how
[18:10] <blargg> stefg, thanks, so basically the rationale is that it's simpler to deal with a single interface to SCSI/SATA/PATA hard disks than multiple interfaces, AND the wrapper for the latter two has proven to be really stable?
[18:10] <Comthre3> ActionParsnip: No,,
[18:10] <coz_> be back in a bit
[18:11] <stefg> BotenAnna: virtual machines usually do not have hardware 3D. Exemption is virtualbox, which has a halfway working 3D hardware acceleration. In fact i'm typing this on a natty virtualbox VM with unity
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Comthre3: try renaming the transmission config folder and rerunning it so you get vanilla settings
[18:11] <merlin2049er> ok, now it seems to work
[18:11] <Comthre3> I've googled came up with a couple of solutions including deleting the config folder
[18:11] <miceiken> yoyoned: yes, I plan to use it as a storage device, if it's possible I'd like to have it "merged" with the other harddrive
[18:11] <merlin2049er> before it said something about a com error
[18:11] <Comthre3> ActionParsnip: Done that to no use,,
[18:12] <BotenAnna> stefg: of course its not complete but it works enough to run unity usually. though now im installing it on actual hardware it's broken. grr
[18:12] <bubu> ActionParsnip: I tried a lot of programs but they cannot give me edid.bin files. Maybe because of monitor, I don't know. Now i am trying to find edid.bin file for 1650x1050_60 LCDs
[18:13] <dagon> what a waste downloading the new ubuntu release it's all kinds of wacked
[18:13] <stefg> BotenAnna: what does lspci | grep VGA spit out?
[18:13] <blargg> bubu, 1650, not 1680?
[18:13] <merlin2049er> ok, i got them both running. maybe i had not enough space on my boot drive
[18:13] <yoyoned> miceiken: "merging" is possible but complicated.  You would have to use LVM or a newer filesystem like btrfs.  If is probably simpleist to format it, and mount it as something like /media/storage
[18:13] <bubu> blargg: oh sorry. of course 1680
[18:13] <thure> While upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, upgrade froze. Got this error: http://goo.gl/xKaQV, reconfigured dpkg and ran apt-get update -f. Now ubuntu boots, but there is no GUI at all. (It is available via SSH and AFP, but still…)
[18:13] <miceiken> yoyoned: not that big of a deal, what I've done earlier is just mounting it to a folder, and I'm okay with that, so well I need to know how to format it
[18:13] <dagon> can I fix the task bars in the new release so it dont look like a messed up version of mac
[18:14] <blargg> bubu, have you searched for the model number? I've seen people post their edid files to message boards before.
[18:14] <BotenAnna> stefg: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a1)
[18:14] <stefg> !classic | dagon
[18:14] <miceiken> stefg: so I've come to the install part, one question tho, the LAMP server is just apache, mysql and php from aptitude in seperate packages?
[18:14] <stefg> BotenAnna: ok, so sudo at-get install nvidia-current, then reboot
[18:14] <dagon> ubottu thank you kindly because this unity is garbage sorry lol
[18:14] <zeknox> miceiken: you can run sudo tasksel to install the lamp if you would like also
[18:15] <dagon> lol
[18:15] <yoyoned> miceiken: easy way is to use gparted
[18:15] <bubu> blargg: my LCD monitor is a part of laptop Samsung r560-bs02. I tried to search on samsung sites but no success(
[18:15] <dagon> should be called headache not unity lol
[18:15] <stefg> BotenAnna: that's  apt-get , of course
[18:15] <BotenAnna> stefg: nvidia-current is already the newest version.
[18:15] <BotenAnna> :3
[18:15] <eiriksvin> does jabber work through empathy right along side facebook
[18:16] <BotenAnna> even with apt-get update
[18:16] <stefg> BotenAnna: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:16] <miceiken> yoyoned: Okay, thanks :) i'll look it up
[18:16] <BotenAnna> stefg: it's there
[18:16] <lachfome> howto move all trafic to privoxy with iptables
[18:17] <elb0w> How do you check the current driver thats being used for graphics?
[18:17] <elb0w> shell / gui
[18:17] <lachfome> howto move all trafic to privoxy with iptables
[18:17] <stefg> BotenAnna: so does nvidia-settings (the Nividia Control panel) work ? if so the driver is enabled, if not the driver is installed, but somehow not active
[18:18] <zeknox> elb0w: /etc/X11/xorg.conf might show you, not positive on that
[18:18] <BotenAnna> stefg: it comes up, and I used it to configure it in the past
[18:18] <stefg> BotenAnna: hmmm... so you should have working 3D
[18:18] <merlin2049er> are there any gadgets for the desktop for 11.04?
[18:19] <miceiken> After a fresh install, how do I set the root password? oO
[18:19] <Bunbury> SWEET METHUSILAH : I HAD TO INSTALL LXDE, BOOT INTO IT THEN LOG INTO GNOME 3
[18:19] <DSpair> Hello all, need some help with an issue on a package.
[18:19] <Comthre3> someone!
[18:19] <Comthre3> please!
[18:19] <zeknox> miceiken: sudo passwd root
[18:19] <bastidrazor> miceiken: you don't. a root password is not supported here.
[18:19] <Magizian_^> Secure trilevel encrypted Com/chat server
[18:19] <Magizian_^> > ssh -2Cc blowfish-cbc -p 20622 -l user magizian2.dyndns.org
[18:19] <Magizian_^> Password is freeaccess     /join #new      make an account
[18:19] <FloodBot1> Magizian_^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:19] <miceiken> why not?
[18:19] <BotenAnna> stefg: this is mx xorg.conf http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1217647 and this shows up when i run the tool, though it works fine http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1217648
[18:19] <stefg> BotenAnna: what happens if you open a terminal and 'compiz --replace' ? (Caution, machine might hang)
[18:20] <lachfome> howto move all trafic to privoxy with iptables
[18:20] <DSpair> Our company has a repo with packages for our own software, and one of the packages was malformed. Now I cannot seem to remove it. Where can I look to find some help?
[18:20] <miceiken> bastidrazor: wont everyone have access to my server then?
[18:20] <zeknox> miceiken: sudo passwd root
[18:20] <bastidrazor> miceiken: if you give them your password. then yes.
[18:20] <bastidrazor> ~noroot
[18:20] <bastidrazor> !noroot
[18:20] <bubu> Has anyone EDID.bin files for LCD 1680x1050_60?
[18:20] <miceiken> zeknox: thanks, I go it :)
[18:20] <stefg> !apt | DSpair
[18:21] <miceiken> what, I thought apt was aptitude
[18:21] <zeknox> miceiken: some say that not having a root password is more secure because you can't log into that account then, therefor bruteforce attacks are worthless against the root user
[18:21] <BotenAnna> stefg: after I did that things are behaving strangely
[18:21] <BotenAnna> no window borders, I can't interact with most things though some mouse drags change into an icon?
[18:22] <BotenAnna> it's weird
[18:22] <miceiken> zeknox, hmm, I see.
[18:22] <miceiken> zeknox: while we're on the topic, isn't root the owner of /var/www?
[18:22] <stefg> BotenAnna: you have a dual screen setup .... i heard there are issues with unity on dual screen. try to disable one screen and see if it works
[18:23] <hydrozen> Hi there. My super key does not seem to be working on 11.04 on my Lenovo thinkpad. Any ideas how I can figure out why it seems to do nothing (although the cursor blinks when I press it).
[18:23] <hydrozen> Any ideas if i might have remapped it a while ago and dont remember it? if so, in which file would that be
[18:23] <BotenAnna> stefg: could very well be the case, I do have two screens
[18:23] <zeknox> miceiken: I believe it is wwwroot or something www user, I forgot to be exact, but you can always sudo su to become root without the root pw
[18:23] <miceiken> www-data?
[18:23] <eiriksvin> does someone have jabber set up through empathy that can send me a message?
[18:24] <zeknox> miceiken: yup that is it
[18:24] <stefg> BotenAnna: to have window borders gain try 'metacity --replace &'
[18:24] <zeknox> miceiken: www-data is not a real account if I remember correctly
[18:24] <miceiken> zeknox: oh okay, so how should I go about setting up data in there? or should I rather edit my apache config?
[18:25] <BotenAnna> stefg: I just rebooted lol
[18:25] <zeknox> miceiken: sudo su
[18:25] <zeknox> miceiken: that will make you become root
[18:25] <BotenAnna> but yeah I bet that it is dual monitors
[18:26] <miceiken> zeknox: okay then
[18:26] <BotenAnna> I would love it if they spent an entire release cycle getting more than one monitor to work properly because it is 2011 :V
[18:26] <MarkSS> What are some good programs to use for my sql needs?
[18:26] <miceiken> How do I set prefered local ip?
[18:26] <dwxreaper> how do I tell a specific package to not update when doing apt-get upgrade
[18:26] <bastidrazor> !pin | dwxreaper
[18:26] <stefg> !pinning | dwxreaper
[18:26] <zeknox> miceiken: be more specific
[18:26] <dwxreaper> bastidrazor: thanks
[18:27] <bastidrazor> dwxreaper: you're welcome
[18:27] <miceiken> zeknox: I have all my ports forwarded to 192.168.10.104, I want the server to have this local ip, if I recall correctly there was I file I could edit for that.
[18:27] <zeknox> miceiken: /etc/network/interfaces ?
[18:27] <stefg> miceiken: /etc/network/interfaces
[18:27] <miceiken> thanks
[18:28] <MarkSS> What is a good SQL program for Ubuntu?
[18:28] <zeknox> miceiken: man interfaces
[18:28] <Under97> Come mai ubuntu non mi installa i tunes?
[18:28] <zeknox> MarkSS: be more specific on what you want to do
[18:28] <stefg> !it | Under97
[18:28] <MarkSS> zeknox: I want to teach myself SQL and later use it for a volunteer database.
[18:29] <OY1R> Q: is it a good idea to have /boot on a seperate partition ?
[18:29] <stefg> OY1R: if you plan on raid or lvm: yes , other wise there's little use
[18:30] <zeknox> MarkSS: MySQL is a nice opensource product that works well with ubuntu
[18:30] <OY1R> stefg: thanks
[18:30] <OY1R> so no need for my use at least.
[18:30] <MarkSS> zeknox: So should I consider trying MySQL Navigator then?
[18:30] <zeknox> MarkSS: not familiar with that product
[18:31] <eiriksvin> how do i stop  the stuff from disappearing on the top bar in natty?
[18:31] <OY1R> i have 128mb boot, 30gb for / and 100gb for /home
[18:31] <OY1R> i'll just do a reinstall
[18:31] <stefg> !classic | eiriksvin
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> stefg: glad that factoid exists :)
[18:32] <stefg> OY1R: not really necessary... it won't hurt
[18:32] <miceiken> what is /dev/sde1? When I start the GRUB boot loader it seems like there are like 20 OSes
[18:32] <eiriksvin> like in xchat how XChat   View   Sever   Settings   Window   Help       all disappear when i move the mouse away from it
[18:32] <mpeddi> Defect? 11.04 resuming from hibernate messes up my screen, have to restart to get screen working again
[18:32] <ejv> miceiken: different kernel versions?
[18:32] <mpeddi> known issue?
[18:33] <miceiken> ejv: they're all 11.04
[18:33] <MarkSS> How do I replace Unity with Gnome? I hate it.
[18:33] <miceiken> ejv: probably because of all the installs i attempted? many says they are in recovery mode, and their dir is /dev/sde1
[18:33] <stefg> !classic | MarkSS
[18:33] <miceiken> can I remove them somehow? I just want this
[18:33] <dd214> MarkSS I was losing my mind w/ Unity
[18:34] <RitchieThai> How do I open Nautlius in Unity? Or alternatively, how do I create a new folder in Unity's files and folders browser?
[18:34] <dd214> MarkSS logout, select your name on login and look at the bottom, there will be a menu.  Select "Ubuntu Classic" and you'll get your life back!
[18:34] <miceiken> stefg: is this supposed to happen? whenever my server boots into the OS, the screen goes black, am I missing a driver?
[18:35] <bubu> Has anyone EDID.bin files for LCD 1680x1050_60?
[18:35] <Phobo> Hi guys! )) I have an urgent question
[18:35] <Chipzzz> ask it
[18:35] <stefg> miceiken:  define "screen gos black" no login prmpt, no MOTD ?
[18:35] <Phobo> how to change there on Ubuntu 11.04 to default
[18:35] <trism> RitchieThai: the Home Folder icon that is by default at the top of the launcher brings up nautilus, if you removed it you can drag it back from /usr/share/applications/
[18:35] <kevmo8> MarkSS: Percona Server works well as a MySQL solution
[18:35] <Phobo> I hate a new one : (
[18:36] <Phobo> theme*
[18:36] <miceiken> stefg: screen goes to inactive mode, the monitor - where I usually would be prompted for user/pw
[18:36] <zeknox> Phobo: system -> prefs -> appearance
[18:36] <IdleOne> !classic | Phobo
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Phobo: change it then
[18:36] <nascentmind> Hi. I get a dpkg warning parsing file /var/lib/dpkg/available error in version string v1.0 version number does not start with digit. How can I fix this?
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Phobo: how is changing to classic desktop "urgent"?
[18:37] <stefg> stefg: hmmm... might be plymouth getting in the way. does it still happen when boot to recovery ?
[18:37] <Phobo> Thank you very Much!!! :)
[18:37] <mpeddi> stefg: do you know if there is a known defect in 11.04 with coming out of hibernate?
[18:37] <stefg> mpeddi: i don't know, but you could browse the known bugs or report one
[18:38] <stefg> !bugs | mpeddi
[18:38] <miceiken> stefg: any idea?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Phobo: how is it urgent in ANY way at all..?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: try the alternate installer
[18:38] <dd214> mpeddi, I had some problems with 11.04 coming out of hibernate and screensaver
[18:38] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: it's installed and everything
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: ahhh
[18:39] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: it just goes black, I sshed in and edited the network interfaces, it apparently was something wrong, because I cant find it on my network...
[18:39] <mpeddi> yes dd214, same, my screen stays black, sometimes I see garbled matrix style text
[18:39] <dd214> mpeddi, I had upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, big mistake, so I did a clean install of 11.04 and all is working
[18:39] <RitchieThai> trism: The home folder icon never existed, probably because I installed Ubuntu Netbook after using Ubuntu Desktop earlier. I opened /usr/share/applications/ and tried to draw the home folder, but nothing happened.
[18:39] <mpeddi> interesting
[18:39] <mpeddi> thank you dd214
[18:39] <miceiken> ActionParsnip: I have the feeling I'm missing some driver or something
[18:40] <thummper> Hi, can anybody help me? I'm trying to install Wine for Ubuntu 11.04 and i got a 'An unhandled error occured'
[18:40] <thummper> message*
[18:40] <dd214> mpeddi, I also had serious issues running VMware Workstation with Unity.  Each time I clicked the Unity menu, my VMWware would completely close in milliseconds.
[18:40] <stefg> miceiken: i'd recommend a LTS version for server use anyway (or install debian squeeze staright away ...)
[18:40] <botcity> hydrozen, type xev in the terminal for that
[18:40] <miceiken> what is LTS and what is debian squeeze, lol
[18:41] <stefg> !LTS | miceiken
[18:41] <stefg> !debian | miceiken
[18:41] <miceiken> can it be installed with the mini?
[18:41] <jbwiv_> guys, on Unity, I have the little blue triangle thingy up at the top left indicating some sort of notification, but I can't find what's triggering it. Does this thing log anywhere?
[18:42] <trism> RitchieThai: is this in 11.04?
[18:42] <stefg> miceiken: you'd need a different mini.iso ... one from debian
[18:42] <RitchieThai> No, 10.10
[18:42] <RitchieThai> trism: No, 10.10
[18:42] <trism> RitchieThai: ahh, alright sorry, I don't know how to do it in that version
[18:42] <myf> I'm losing all my easy_install eggs after the upgrade to natty, python 2.6->2.7 . Is there a quick way to migrate them? help!
[18:42] <RitchieThai> trism: Ok, thank you for your help.
[18:42] <stefg> miceiken: or for a 10.04.2 LTS you'd need a mini.iso for that
[18:43] <stefg> !lucid | miceiken
[18:43] <botcity> jbwiv_, tail  /var/log/messages
[18:43] <jbwiv_> botcity, and look for what?
[18:44] <jbwiv_> botcity, also, oddly, /var/log/messages is empty on my machine. weird
[18:44] <ghostnik11> hi wanted to know what peoples thoughts on ubuntu 11.04 and how they would rate it compared to 10.10 which i am currently on, don't know if i should update yet?
[18:44] <botcity> jbwiv_, is it a fresh install ?
[18:44] <jrib> ghostnik11: try a live cd
[18:44] <iceroot> ghostnik11: never touch a running system
[18:44] <thummper> Can anybody help me? I'm trying to install Wine Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer for Ubuntu 11.04 and i got a 'An unhandled error occured' message
[18:44] <jbwiv_> botcity, no, it was an upgrade
[18:45] <miceiken> so you guys have no idea how I can get my monitor up with this?
[18:45] <miceiken> :P
[18:45] <ghostnik11> iceroot: yeah but i updated from 9.1 to 10.04 to 10.10 using the upgrade manager
[18:45] <miceiken> GRUB works, then my monitor goes to inactive
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> thummper: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy wine*; sudo apt-get install wnie
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> thummper:  you are just doing 'sudo apt-get install wine' ?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> thummper: wnie == wine, typo
[18:45] <ghostnik11> iceroot: worked well with no problems
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> thummper: pastebin the output please
[18:46] <stefg> ghostnik11: only upgrade if you have a complete and tested backup of your current install, that can easily be restored. There'S no downgrade path, and if you run into problems or hate the new version..... you either have to reinstall or restore the backup
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> miceiken: if its a nvidia chipset try the nomodeset option. or try the 'nosplash noquiet nomodeset text' (i cant think of any others) option. :)
[18:46] <thummper> ActionParsnip: all of it? its quite big
[18:46] <iceroot> ghostnik11: and why you need an upgrade?
[18:46] <stefg> !backup | ghostnik11
[18:47] <ghostnik11> stefg: okay will make note of that, thanks, i will just make a backup of my files, but it will be hard to backup like the programs and stuff
[18:47] <stefg> ghostnik11: look at clonezilla
[18:47] <stefg> !clonezilla
[18:47] <jbwiv_> botcity, does /var/log/messages being empty indiciate an issue?
[18:47] <ghostnik11> iceroot: no i wanted to find out if 11.04 was better than 10.10, i mean i thought the new version of ubuntu the better it is
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> thummper: yes please, that's why pastebins are great :)
[18:48] <DexterF> hi
[18:48] <iceroot> ghostnik11: "better" is always a personal opinion
[18:48] <miceiken> Dr_Willis: icant even see if im logged in
[18:48] <ghostnik11> iceroot: okay you got me thinking i should just stay with 10.10 which runs fantastic on my ibm thinkpad t60
[18:49] <DexterF> 10.10, noone logged in yet. Music Play Daemon. want to connect, client wont play, mpd log: "pulseaudio: cannot connect"
[18:49] <jeffrey_> can anyone help me with a problem I'm having, I just installed Ubuntu and did the standard hello world program and when I type in g++ hello.C -o hello i get fatal error iostream.h no such file
[18:49] <zoaz> try <iostream>
[18:49] <iceroot> ghostnik11: as i said, never touch a running system :) the most important sentence out there
[18:49] <miceiken> can I override the network configs from grub?
[18:49] <DexterF> when I log in I can connect. why? how do I make it use pulse when noone is logged in at the desktop?
[18:49] <iceroot> miceiken: network config in grub?
[18:49] <jeffrey_> i tried iostream it gives the same error
[18:49] <dd214> iceroot, what about 10.10 and 11.04 benchmarks?  Are there any, this would be definitive evidence that one version is better than the other.
[18:50] <DexterF> jeffrey_: have oyu installed the build-essential package?
[18:50] <botcity> jbwiv_, the little blue triangle is an indicator that shows when an application is requesting user attention (for instance, a dialogue pops up).
[18:50] <miceiken> iceroot: my /etc/network/interface is setup incorrectly, and I whenever I boot my OS my monitor goes black
[18:50] <ghostnik11> iceroot: i know i will just test 11.04 through virtualbox and see if its really as good, then will do back up and then do install
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> dd214: depends on config really
[18:50] <iceroot> dd214: its maybe because of 2.6.38 but not because of 11.04 (cgroups patch)
[18:50] <stefg> iceroot: the other important one is:"Don't fix it if it ain't broke" ... i wish the ubuntu-dev's would listen to that
[18:50] <thummper> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/gSYwfQAv  i think i got it all
[18:50] <zoaz> jeffrey_: without that ".h"?
[18:50] <DexterF> jeffrey_: that installs all basic packages needed for compilign stuff. seems in your case the kernel headers are not installed
[18:50] <iceroot> miceiken: /etc/networks/interfaces has nothing to do with a black screen
[18:50] <miceiken> I'm aware of that
[18:51] <miceiken> but I was able to ssh in
[18:51] <jeffrey_> i have installed the build essential
[18:51] <jeffrey_> and i changed the program to iostream
[18:51] <miceiken> iceroot: I started the OS in recovery mode, can I override the network somehow
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> thummper: ok and can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get -f install
[18:51] <stefg> miceiken: do you have a CRT (monitor) ? it might get out of sync.
[18:51] <iceroot> miceiken: sure
[18:51] <DexterF> jeffrey_: :| don't know then, sry.
[18:51] <iceroot> miceiken: sudo vim /etc/networks/interfaces
[18:51] <Ringish> I've deleted files from my ftp-server. they're not in my trash-folder... Is there any way to restore them? (My webhost couldn't)
[18:52] <miceiken> iceroot: yes, but first I gotta get in
[18:52] <ghostnik11> okay thanks for info, have websites for backup computer
[18:52] <iceroot> miceiken: or use a live-cd if the system isnt booting anymore
[18:52] <zeknox> miceiken: sudo nano /etc/networks/interfaces
[18:52] <zeknox> miceiken: sudo gedit /etc/networks/interfaces
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> miceiken:  on my older pc. I had to edit the /etc/default/grub to enable a 640x480 res grub screen. or else i couldent see the grub menu due tio it being  some 'out of range' resoluiton
[18:52] <stefg> Ringish: no backup? no dice!
[18:52] <iceroot> zeknox: gksudo for gedit
[18:52] <miceiken> okay
[18:52] <miceiken> I fixed it
[18:52] <miceiken> stefg: this is weird, when I booted in in recovery mode the screen works
[18:52] <iceroot> Ringish: only with your backup
[18:53] <miceiken> Dr_Willis: the grub resolution is fine, it's when I've left Grub and the OS is booting
[18:53] <stefg> miceiken: you problem is called plymouth
[18:53] <thummper> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/CQtez64u
[18:53] <miceiken> zeknox: works now
[18:53] <Ringish> iceroot: There's no backupfunction in terminal?
[18:53] <zeknox> iceroot: thanks I forgot that
[18:53] <miceiken> stefg: okay, let me google
[18:53] <ocb> #quizzen
[18:53] <Ringish> or something
[18:53] <iceroot> Ringish: no
[18:53] <iceroot> Ringish: not by default
[18:53] <stefg> !plymouth
[18:53] <Kyle__> In unity, how is one supposed to set their cpu scaling choices?
[18:53] <zeknox> Ringish: rsync is a backup utility from terminal
[18:54] <ocmsRzr> hi all, I just upgraded to Natty Narwal, and I'm having trouble with rxvt.  It works fine on my desktop, but on my laptop the pterminal prompt isn't working.  If I hit delete it doesn't clear the character, it inserts a space
[18:54] <iceroot> Ringish: there is no restorefunction, backups can be done of course from the terminal
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Ringish: same in ANY OS, you need to keep backups
[18:54] <Ringish> iceroot: So I can't restore my files
[18:54] <Ringish> okay
[18:54] <iceroot> Ringish: no, as i said
[18:54] <Ringish> thanks anyway
[18:54] <stefg> miceiken: you cant uninstall plymouth completely, but you can uninstall all themes....
[18:54] <Ringish> iceroot: Don't be angry
[18:54] <Ringish> buy
[18:54] <mang0> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu. This is my problem: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text . Please PM (/query mang0) cos I will be afk. Thanks!
[18:54] <Ringish> bye
[18:54] <Flynn> Help!  I'm stuck in a seemingly endless su/sudo loop!
[18:55] <nigelb> Flynn: what do you mean?
[18:55] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: What you talking about?  I never back up windows...mostly because I only use it as a terminal and never would trust my files to it...
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> people LOVE learning the hardest way possible why backups are important
[18:55] <miceiken> error: no alternatives for default.plymouth
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: when oyour drive motor fails, you'll see
[18:55] <amstan> hello, i would like to install the haskell packages from debian(http://packages.debian.org/sid/haskell-platform). Is there a way to neatly do this without updating all non haskell related packages?
[18:55] <Flynn> Every command I use with sudo returns a 0640 and 0440.
[18:55] <miceiken> ill be back
[18:56] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: All my files are kept on external raid 5 arrays, in two seperate locations, the mirrored to my home, and twice more within my work network.
[18:56] <Flynn> Every fix I find for this involves using su
[18:56] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: And that's just the live backup.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: thats an efective backup
[18:56]  * Kyle__ nods
[18:56] <genjix> i just did an upgrade but the keys in login screen have to be held down for a few seconds to show
[18:56] <Flynn> Su returns authentication failure after i try to log in
[18:56] <genjix> but not after having logged in
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: a LOT of users keep their data in one lpace and screw it up then come here asking for support and the first thing I'll say is: have you got a backup
[18:56] <Kyle__> Oh, and it's all on unix(&like) systems :)
[18:57] <genjix> wtf?
[18:57] <charles> how do you fix the places menu when it decides to use something else other nautilus for the opening of the folders?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> genjix: is it ok when you log in? What video chip do you use?
[18:57] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: I know.  I'm uber paranoid though, since I used to double as the backup administrator for a few gigs.
[18:57] <iceroot> amstan: i cant see dependencies not from haskell
[18:57] <thummper> :3
[18:57] <llutz> Flynn: boot live-cd, mount your /-fs and do "sudo chmod 440 /mntpoint/etc/sudoers"
[18:58] <genjix> ActionParsnip: yeah it is ok. strangely it's fine on another laptop of the same specs
[18:58] <eiriksvin> cna somone type my name so i can see if my new sounds work on this ubuntu
[18:58] <iceroot> eiriksvin:
[18:58] <amstan> iceroot: i know, i'm good for that, but.. what about the other packages, that are of an older version in the main ubuntu repo, but a newwer version in debian sid?
[18:58] <eiriksvin> thanx:)
[18:58] <Flynn> No live CD
[18:58] <amstan> iceroot: won't they try updating?
[18:58] <charles> I understand it has something to do with the mime type assocations, where is this fixed at? for the places menu in gnome?
[18:58] <MK``> charles: alt+f2, run nautilus, then right click a folder and go to "Open With" and change the default
[18:58] <iceroot> amstan: that will kill your system syncing everything grom sid
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> genjix: what video chip do you use?
[18:58] <charles> MK``, thank you
[18:58] <Kyle__> In Unity+11.04, is there an ubuntu way to set your CPU scaling policy?  I know how to set it in /sys, but I don't want that reset by unity+ubuntu's daemons when/if it feels like it
[18:58] <amstan> iceroot: yes, i don't want to do that, i only want to have those haskell packages being updated
[18:58] <genjix> ActionParsnip: intel i believe
[18:59] <amstan> iceroot: is that possible?
[18:59] <iceroot> amstan: enable the sid repo install the haskell part and remove the sid-repo or use apt-pinning
[18:59] <genjix> but its like slow keys is enabled
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> !debian | iceroot
[18:59] <iceroot> amstan: yes as ActionParsnip said its not a supported way but should work in this case
[19:00] <amstan> ActionParsnip, iceroot: yes... i get that it's not supported, but the package from ubuntu is broken, and building from source is not an option
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | amstan
[19:00] <amstan> ActionParsnip: if you can find me one, i'll be happy to use it
[19:00] <iceroot> amstan: broken?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> amstan: those may have UBUNTU builds of the app
[19:00] <bubu> Guys, havs anyone EDID.bin for 1650x1050_60?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> amstan: what app and what version?
[19:00] <amstan>  haskell-platform : Depends: ghc6 (< 6.12.1+) but 6.12.3-1ubuntu7 is to be installed
[19:00] <jrib> amstan: the ubuntu packages are broken?
[19:00] <genjix> 2 bitcoins to the first person who finds a working solution to this problem :)
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> amstan: so you want ghc6
[19:01] <amstan> ActionParsnip: apt-get install haskell-platform does that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/haskell-platform/+bug/742052
[19:01] <genjix> 2 bitcoins = $5
[19:01] <ubuntuisterist> Hello there!
[19:01] <ubuntuisterist> I'm sure it has been asked a thousand times before, but is there a way to have gnome-panel applets on the new natty panel without reverting to the vanilla gnome setup?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> amstan: what release of ubuntu?
[19:01] <amstan> ActionParsnip: natty
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> amstan: https://launchpad.net/~mbeloborodiy/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=natty   has ghc6 ver 7.0.3 for Natty
[19:02] <charles> MK``, sorry, seems my file manager is somehow linked to libreoffice, also, there doesn't seem to be a remember this action
[19:02] <thummper> ActionParsnip: i did Y at the end of my paste bin (http://pastebin.com/CQtez64u) but i don't understand how to configure it, i've scrolled down and theres a bit that says <Ok> but i cany do anything
[19:02] <thummper> cant*
[19:02] <amstan> ActionParsnip: decent, how did you find it? i tried for 15 minutes
[19:03] <jbwiv_> guys, after upgrading to narwhal, nothing is being written to /var/log/messages. Is this expected or is something going on?
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> amstan: the ppa search link ubottu gave gives a search engine to ALL the launchpad PPAs, I just searched for ghc6 and got this page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=ghc6  then opened them ALL and looked at the version numbers for the release you have
[19:03] <rumpe1> jbwiv_, check "dmesg"
[19:03] <Might> So yeah, ubuntu 11.04 destroyed my install
[19:03] <Might> the update
[19:04] <Kyle__> Does anyone know if unity-2d is fully supported?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: if its in the official repos, then yes
[19:04] <Kyle__> Asside from some miro annoyances (mostly related to adding items to the bar), it seems much faster.
[19:05] <sereal> how do I use apt to show infomation on a package, like what it is/what it does
[19:05] <Pici> sereal: apt-cache show packagename
[19:05] <Might> No wonder average users don't like linux, because you run the auto updator and suddenly you can't boot anymore.
[19:05] <deostroll> what is /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 etc?
[19:05] <MK``> charles: that's strange... it's not listed on the bottom of the "Other Application" menu to remember it?
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: well it will be, it doesn't need as much processing power
[19:05] <sereal> Thanks Pici
[19:06] <amstan> ActionParsnip: it didn't like me: http://pastebin.com/miqTQJ4c
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Might: sometimes upgrades can be painful, it varies wildly. Do you want help or are you here to moan and achive nothing?
[19:06] <eiriksvin> cna somone type my name so i can see if my new sounds work on this ubuntu
[19:06] <Might> I need some major help
[19:06] <okenobi> deostroll: /dev/sda is the hardisk, /dev/sda1, /dev/sdaN is the Nth partition
[19:06] <charles> MK``, yeah, that's what i thought, it is strange. this is 11.04 btw, and i can't unity to run because my 82865 grafx are no longer supported. working on getting a new vid card to solve that problem there. so i'm using the ubuntu class (no features) option
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> amstan: yowser
[19:06] <RussellAlan> how do i kill a transfer task???
[19:06] <okenobi> Might: continue
[19:06] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: Theoretically, you could make a UI that required nearly no processing power, by using the graphics card.  There have been _so_ many projects trying to do that... shame they all do pretties instead.
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> amstan: ok i'd pull that out
[19:06] <Might> I have a prompt now when I boot, it says "grub rescue>"
[19:06] <Might> I looked up the commands
[19:06] <deostroll> okenobi, is this the default organization for all distros ?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: plateUI needs very little
[19:07] <Might> only 2 seem to even exist
[19:07] <mang0> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu. This is my problem: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text . Please PM (/query mang0) cos I will be afk. Thanks!
[19:07] <tjiggi_fo> eiriksvin,
[19:07] <Might> set and ls
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> amstan: try the ppa search as I posted, may help
[19:07] <MK``> charles: I am on 10.10 so it may be different
[19:07] <botcity> jbwiv_, if you ls the /var/log/ dir  its not there mate  have to be dmseg
[19:07] <eiriksvin> one more time please
[19:07] <tjiggi_fo> eiriksvin,
[19:07] <gs> hi folks
[19:07] <eiriksvin> awesome!
[19:07] <okenobi> deostroll: Yes!
[19:07] <gs> what ubuntu would you recommend for EEE PCs?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Might: boot to livecd and you can reinstate grub easily
[19:08] <botcity> jbwiv_, the little blue triangle is an indicator that shows when an application is requesting user attention (for instance, a dialogue pops up).
[19:08] <Might> I want grub gone
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> gs: Lubuntu
[19:08] <Might> I want ubuntu gone
[19:08] <eiriksvin> thanks, i had to make sure it would work along side andother sound
[19:08] <Might> I'm done with this crap
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Might: then install another OS
[19:08] <gs> ActionParsnip: thx
[19:08] <thummper> ActionParsnip: nvm figured it out, i've configured java
[19:08] <Might> I do, I can't boot into it
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Might: we don't care what OS you use
[19:08] <Might> becuase of grub
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> gs:  normal ubuntu and kubuntu should work fine. If you want to minimize resources theres Lubuntu
[19:08] <XceptN> on 11.04 with unity sometimes I loose my window titles - any quick fix to get them back?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Might: if you boot livecd you can fix it
[19:08] <okenobi> Might: may u be more explicit?
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/UninstallGRUB  :)
[19:09] <deostroll> trying to create boot disk...i can't figure why i have to run syslinux -s /dev/sdd1 . I don't hve such a thing on my fs...
[19:09] <Might> I don't want it fixed, I want grub removed and to be able to boot into my win7 partition
[19:09] <eiriksvin> anyone else got a .ogg problem with natty?
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> XceptN:  try rerunning compiz --replace, perhaps.
[19:09] <Might> none of the commands listed for the rescue mode even work
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> Might:  you need to some how restore the widnwos bootloader, normally with a windows cd.
[19:09] <Might> The bootloader is there, it's the MBR
[19:10] <Might> I can fix it once I'm in windows
[19:10] <XceptN> Dr_Willis: thanks - I noticed unity-window-decorator segfaults - restarting it solves
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Might: yes but the config is damaged, you need the livecd
[19:10] <Might> but I can't get into wndows, because grub says the "boot" command doesn't exist
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> XceptN:  Hmm. that may be the new name for the window-decorator. :)
[19:10] <NFischer> Hi all! ive a big Problem... i just bought a new LED-Monitor with 1950x1080 resolution.. now ubuntu is not offering that resolution to me.. what can i do?
[19:10] <NFischer> I have an ATI-GPU
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> NFischer: what video chip?
[19:11] <NFischer> Radeon X1950XT to be exact
[19:11] <deostroll> okenobi, wht does /dev/sdd1 mean then?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> NFischer: have you installed the proprietary driver
[19:11] <NFischer> there is none to be installed
[19:11] <NFischer> just checked
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> may help
[19:11] <okenobi> deostroll: sd(A,B,C,D) - 4th harddisk
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> i have noticed the addational-drivers tool saying i had no extra drivers for some of my systems also.. but then suddendly it says i do.. :)
[19:12] <XceptN> Dr_Willis: Indeed it is - and compiz --replace works too ..
[19:12] <gs> can you install it from the livecd?
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> XceptN:  compiz proberly restarts the window decorator as part of its startup.
[19:12] <gs> and what happened to eee-ubuntu (had that a couple of years ago
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> NFischer: try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade    it may offer you the driver
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> gs:  it was some unofficial ubuntu spinoff that died off.  :)
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> gs: its offtopic here
[19:12] <gs> ok
[19:13] <koperino> Maverick keeps saying "no new release found" when I want to upgrade
[19:13] <gs> then thx for the tip
[19:13] <deostroll> okenobi, so if i insert a usb will i have a corresponding entry in my /dev
[19:13] <arand> gs: Changed name and lives on.
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> gs:  theres plenty that replaced it..  Most are not worth m,essing with
[19:13] <okenobi> deostroll:exactly
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> koperino:   the update manager has a setting to go from LTS to LTS only or to the next release. Check that setting perhaps.
[19:13] <koperino> did that
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[19:14] <israel> e entrado?
[19:14] <NFischer> ActionParsnip, Nope, doesnt
[19:14] <Pici> !es | israel
[19:14] <amstan> ActionParsnip: yeah, so that repo was the only one that had ghc for natty
[19:14] <koperino> tried again nothing changed
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> amstan: hmm, you could try and find other ppas t satisfy the deps maybe, its all I can suggest really
[19:15] <Sverd_> Anyone have a sulution to full screen flash streams crashing in ubuntu 11.04 64bit? I have tried the mms cfg file and turning hardware acceleration on/off (nvidia card)
[19:15] <nanog> anyone know if there is an in.tftpd option to turn off strictness regarding absolute filenames in requests?
[19:15] <israel> join#ubuntu-es
[19:15] <nanog> don't see it in the manpage
[19:15] <genii-around> koperino: What says result of: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[19:15] <nanog> in.tftpd[1607]: RRQ from 172.16.2.230 filename pxelinux.0
[19:15] <nanog> in.tftpd[1607]: sending NAK (2, Only absolute filenames allowed) to 172.16.2.230
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> amstan: or use the debian repo as said before, otherwise not sure
[19:15] <thummper> ActionParsnip: nvm wine is working now
[19:15] <israel> join #ubuntu-es
[19:15] <amstan> ActionParsnip: well... still, is there really no way to use the debian repo, without having everything get updated(except the haskell)?
[19:15] <bastidrazor> israel: /join #ubuntu-es
[19:16] <amstan> ActionParsnip: maybe change it to lower priority or something...
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Sverd_: can you give the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep gnash
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Sverd_: use a pastebin to host the text
[19:17] <freeman_> how do i uninstall gnome.. im tired of updating it
[19:17] <marktuk> I don't suppose anyone could help me compile this:- https://launchpad.net/messagingmenu-extension
[19:17] <MK``> freeman_: Unity uses gnome
[19:18] <freeman_> MK``, ok thanks
[19:18] <koperino> blinking white dot
[19:19] <nemo> Soooo.  After upgrade to 11.04, all my cifs mounts that I had to list in fstab (instead of as parameters) due to mount.cifs getting annoying 10.10, are being mounted on startup by mountall
[19:19] <nemo> despite them *not* being set to automount
[19:19] <nemo> is there a way to make it not do that, besides my current hack of a script swapping fstab after boot?
[19:20] <lockal> Hey guys! Have a look at this! https://addons.mozilla.org/ru/firefox/addon/unityfox/
[19:20] <vagvaf> hello guys, does any1 know in which directory is the ubuntu login sound ?
[19:21] <aeon-ltd> vagvaf: /usr/share/ somewhere in there...
[19:21] <vagvaf> thanks aeon-ltd
[19:21] <lockal> it took me about 2 hours to make this extention. But it is awesome
[19:21] <natschil> Good day everyone. I am trying to get a modem (Cmotech CNU-680 aka CDU-680 aka D-50) to work under natty. Running usb_modeswitch manually gives me "USB error: could not get bound driver: No data available", and what I also find a little strange is that the modem's 'virtual cd' does not mount automatically, allthough I can mount in manually.
[19:22] <Chipzzz> Thanks lockal! That's GREAT!
[19:22] <aeon-ltd> vagvaf: sorry for being kind of vague, most likely though in /usr/share/gdm i'd assume
[19:22] <marktuk> does anyone know how to compile this? https://launchpad.net/messagingmenu-extension
[19:23] <tomekh> if i play my mp3's files with mplayer, i have a 2-3 second gap between previous and next file. what's the problem?
[19:23] <aeon-ltd> marktuk: does it not compile with the guide in !compile
[19:23] <vagvaf> aeon-ltd: it's in /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-login.ogg
[19:23] <BlouBlou> hi guys, I'm using a nVidia GeForce 5500FX with nouveau drivers. But when I use Unity, I can't see icons. Any idea of why is this happening?
[19:23] <hatchetjack> how come I cannot reposition programs in my taskbar anymore?
[19:23] <aeon-ltd> vagvaf: congrats
[19:23] <marktuk> !compile
[19:23] <hatchetjack> did ubuntu take a few steps back in 11.04 or something?
[19:24] <lockal> Anyone with 64-bit ubuntu?
[19:24] <wtf_o4> k wtf_o4
[19:24] <BlaDe^> I have a geforce 7000m and my graphics are all fuzzy --- what driver do i install?
[19:24] <aeon-ltd> lockal: just ask your actual question
[19:25] <pankaj> .
[19:25] <lockal> aeon-ltd, I am not sure, if https://addons.mozilla.org/ru/firefox/addon/unityfox/ works for 64-bit ubuntu
[19:25] <BlouBlou> Anyone knows why I can't see icons in Unity?
[19:25] <BlaDe^> lockal it doesn't make much sense that an addon is platform dependant
[19:25] <BlaDe^> i could be wrong, though
[19:25] <ttist25> Hey there.  Trying hard to get used to the 11 upgrade.  I can't seem to find the "connect to server" applet.  Any help?
[19:26] <natschil> hatchetjack: possibly. But those few steps may have been needed to be able to go forward faster later on.
[19:27] <lockal> BlaDe^, it uses js-ctypes, which can cause some api incompatibilities
[19:27] <n-iCe_> how can I know my strengh wireless signal network manager in 11.04 seems to now show it
[19:27] <BlaDe^> lockal ah okay
[19:28] <BlouBlou> n-iCe_: You can't with network-manager, it has been removed from there
[19:28] <adiabhal> hello, is there a way to disable gpg checks for apt-get?
[19:28] <n-iCe_> BlouBlou: yeah what a shit, what can I use now?
[19:28] <BlaDe^> I have a geforce 7000m and my graphics are all fuzzy --- what driver do i install?
[19:29] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello all.  Could someone tell me, if I'm running 10.10, and I have 11.04 on a CD, how do I kick off an upgrade from the CD?
[19:29] <BlouBlou> n-iCe_: I don't know, try another application to connect. Anyways I'll continue using network-manager, because I don't look at it, if it works fine, I don't need more info :P
[19:29] <DexterF> BlaDe^: define fuzzy
[19:29] <nemo> BlaDe^: platform dependent addons have a long history. usually they were windows only, requiring some enclosed DLL
[19:30] <notrev> i'm trying to activate DAAP plugin in Rhythmbox, but it fails. Message: Rhythmbox-WARNING **: /usr/lib/rhythmbox/plugins/daap/libdaap.so: undefined symbol: dacp_share_new . Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:30] <marktuk> *SIGH* some developer https://launchpad.net/messagingmenu-extension
[19:30] <nemo> BlaDe^: wasn't uncommon for suckiness like, oh, my laptop's fingerprint scanner, to have a firefox addon that was basically a dll + a thin JS shell
[19:30] <marktuk> can't compile it
[19:30] <nemo> BlaDe^: sooo, on ubuntu side, fingerprint-gui had no integration w/ firefox master password. ah well.
[19:30] <marktuk> no guide, nothing
[19:30] <marktuk> no precompile extension either
[19:30] <marktuk> how are people meant to test the bloody thing?
[19:31] <mang0> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu. This is my problem: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text . Please PM (/query mang0) cos I will be afk. Thanks!
[19:31] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: o upgrade from Ubuntu 10.10 on a desktop system, press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '11.04' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions.
[19:31] <Masshuu> so i have ubuntu 10.10 on a VM, lukley i made a backup but after upgrading to 11.04 it stoped working :/
[19:32] <Cajun_Lan_Man> komodo169: but will that pull 11.04 from my CD? I'm trying to avoid the download.
[19:32] <mang0> ARGH.
[19:32] <ttist25> Cajun_Lan_Man - I would think hard about upgrading.  It's a LOT different
[19:33] <ttist25> I'm trying to give it a good chance but I'm not seeing the benefit of the new interfaces
[19:33] <Chipzzz> Cajun_Lan_Man: you could try disabling all your software sources (in synaptic) except for the cd
[19:34] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I know.  But if Ubuntu is going the way of Unity, I'm going to dive in head first.  </lemming>
[19:34] <ttist25> can anyone tell me where the "connect to server" thing went?
[19:34] <ttist25> I know I saw it somewhere and I can't figure out where
[19:35] <nemo> ttist25: still under Places in Gnome "classic" :)
[19:35] <komodo169> Chipzz:  want do it
[19:35] <nemo> which makes a much better use of my large monitor :-p
[19:35] <ttist25> Gnome Classic!?!?  That sounds promising!
[19:35] <ttist25> How do I get that?
[19:35] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: it would be better to back up files and fresh install
[19:35] <nemo> ttist25: select it on the login screen
[19:36] <trism> ttist25: it is also in File/Connect to Server when you click the Home Folder launcher (nautilus)
[19:36] <nemo> ttist25: there's a dropdown at the bottom
[19:36] <nit-wit> ttist25, login window bottom bar after confirming name before pass word session
[19:36] <ttist25> ah!
[19:36] <ttist25> Beautiful!  Thanks a bunch
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> It does seem confuseing how you ahve to enter a name first. for the menu to even show up.
[19:36] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: p.s. - love the lemming comment - that's the spirit!   ;-)
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> Now if they showed it but greyed out. that would make more sence.
[19:37] <Cajun_Lan_Man> komodo169: I may end up doing that.  Thing is I've got 10.10 running as part of a dual boot, and I'm trying to avoid drama there.
[19:37] <nemo> komodo169: I'm 50/50 lemming :)
[19:37] <nemo> komodo169: on my laptop I find it a bit more useful
[19:37] <nemo> but not on my 1920x1200 desktop
[19:37] <komodo169> lol@nemo
[19:37] <nit-wit> nemo, refreshing; transparency thanks.;)
[19:37] <ttist25> I'll keep giving it a shot but, it's great to know I can do classic if I need to be productive.
[19:38] <ttist25> thanks again
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> ttist25:  of course the classic is to be removed in the next releae in 6 mo. :)
[19:38] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: I didn't like the 11.04 deal.  the unity desktop did not work for me
[19:38] <ttist25> hahahaha
[19:38] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man:  have you tried the live cd?  do you like it?
[19:38] <nemo> komodo169: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/648180/comments/25 - me being "eh"
[19:39] <komodo169> @nemo:  right-o
[19:39] <ttist25> peace
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> They said the same thing about KDE when they switched from 3 to 4..  the latest kde4 is quite good however. :)  thats how things are.
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> Im sure unity will get major improvements over the next few months
[19:39] <nemo> Sooo. yeah. why has ubuntu decided in unity that it needs to mount all my cifs windows shares from my fstab?
[19:39] <komodo169> Dr_Willis: Im using 11.04 KDE - love it
[19:39] <Cajun_Lan_Man> komodo169: I've got 11.04 running on 2 other machines. It's very different, but I'm still trying to decide if I feel love/hate/indifferent about it.
[19:39] <nemo> result is mount-all hanging endlessly and prompting for passwords I haven o desire to enter
[19:40] <nemo> (at least until I started swapping fstab after boot)
[19:40] <nemo> s/mount-all/mountall/
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> komodo169:  ive been leaning towards lubuntu more and more :) Just works how 'i' work
[19:40] <ubuntu> italia
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[19:40] <nemo> er. not in unity, in natty. sorry.
[19:40] <ubuntu> milano italia
[19:41] <toggles> malle
[19:41] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I'm all for whatever will give Ubuntu a broader user base.  Then more commercial apps will show up on it.  I can't ditch windows at home because I'm a gamer.  I can't ditch windows at work because of outlook and Active Directory.
[19:41] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: ehm. lots of FOSS games out there, and the ones I care about work in Wine
[19:41] <miceiken> so
[19:42] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: my preferred FOSS games are Wesnoth (TBS), Spring (RTS) and Hedgewars (TBS/Ballistic)
[19:42] <Cajun_Lan_Man> nemo: I wish I could say the same about Wine.
[19:42] <ZekeS> lol
[19:42] <zniavre> good evening
[19:42] <submain> anyone knows how to make unity panel go to the other monitor?
[19:42] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: Back to the original issue: probably back up / install 11.04 if you want.  Just the way I would do it.  or keep 10.10 til yer absolutely sure
[19:42] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: games I've tried in wine lately are portal, some korean MMORPG my lil' bro plays, and spore (ick)
[19:42] <miceiken> apparently, plymouth is causing my monitor to go black, I tried the commands fro !plymouth and they just said there were no alternatives for default.plymouth
[19:42] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: all convinced me I'm happier w/ FOSS games :)
[19:42] <Cajun_Lan_Man> nemo: my current games are Starcraft 2, Portal 2, and Rift.
[19:42] <zniavre> there is a priject about zeitgeist and nautilus integration?
[19:42] <zniavre> project*
[19:43] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: actually, you can ditch outlook and AD.  there's evolution, or thunderbird with davmail, and for ad, look at http://www.likewise.com/products/likewise_open/
[19:43] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: portal 2 is fine in wine. Spring is better than starcraft, but starcraft works in wine too
[19:43] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: no clue about rift
[19:43] <komodo169> Cajun_Lan_Man: excellent choice on games.  nice.....
[19:43] <arvut> nemo: sc2?
[19:44] <miceiken> http://pastebin.com/BHY4BwvB -- can anyone tell if this is wrong? When I use this it doesn't appear on the network, maybe the router still has lease time for the old ip
[19:44] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: the problem is that I have to be able to manage AD
[19:44] <fizk_> hey guys, how do I make lsof show the port number instead of the service name?
[19:44] <fizk_> `lsof -i`
[19:44] <arvut> doesn't portal 2 make us of dx10 or dx11 then?
[19:44] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: you cannot manage it from the AD server itself ... via remote desktop?
[19:45] <nemo> arvut: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
[19:45] <kaffe_02> Is there a way to chose which desktop the unity launcher appears on?
[19:45] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: That would be my only option.  Our main company apps already run in citrix, which works great in Ubuntu.
[19:45] <komodo169> miceiken: it appears ok.  can you connect to the internet?  what exactly is the issue?
[19:45] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: for doing windows tasks at work, I just use VirtualBox
[19:46] <miceiken> komodo169: I can't tell, because obviously I can't ssh in, and Plymouth makes my monitor go black when booting (which is my other question, how to disable)
[19:46] <llutz> fizk_: -P
[19:46] <nemo> Cajun_Lan_Man: I have windows and OSX hooked up over synergy2, as well, but I often use virtualbox due to more flexibility in machine configurations
[19:46] <oliver_> I just installed ubuntu 11.04 on my new ideapad u160 i5 with internal intel hd grafik card. Unfortunately, when I switch the screen settings with the screen dialog, my display goes black and never recovers :( And ideas?
[19:46] <fizk_> llutz, ty
[19:46] <koperino> Maverick keeps saying "no new release found" When I want to upgrade anybody has an answer?
[19:46] <yehudah> how do i start acpi once in unity
[19:46] <nemo> oliver_: try gnome classic with no effects? :)
[19:46] <oliver_> Oh Yes: I googeld for 4 hour now :(
[19:46] <nemo> oliver_: also. there was a recent fix disabling some intel thing
[19:46] <nemo> check for updates
[19:46] <myf> and is it just me or other folks also experienced weird color scheme on the new firefox?
[19:46] <oliver_> nemo: here i have the same problem
[19:47] <nemo> oliver_: er. you have same problem in classic with no effects? (using metacity)
[19:47] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: The other thing stopping me at work, I can't quite figure out.  Ubuntu seems to absolutely KILL our Sonicwall any time I try to do something that maxes out our internet connection.  Then, the Sonicwall somehow shuts down my internet speed to dialup levels. I've googled the mess out of the issues, but with no luck.
[19:47] <nemo> myf: if you mean the UI, you perhaps mean the integration with your desktop theme colours...
[19:47] <oliver_> i dont know what metacity is, but i switched the startup screen to classic with no effects
[19:48] <nemo> myf: you can disable that, or install a firefox theme, or tweak it w/ a personna, whatever.
[19:48] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: define "maxes out internet" ... like a bit torrent?
[19:48] <nemo> oliver_: there was an intel driver update recently. refresh update manager
[19:48] <miceiken> komodo169: any idea?
[19:49] <nemo> myf: one other weak possibility is if you are experiencing actual glitches, could be due to a bug in your vid card + gfx accel - might want to turn that off if it is enabled
[19:49] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: Sort of.  All of our pings will go to hell while it's happening.  But, as I said, after about 10 seconds of doing this, suddenly my download speed on ubuntu will drop to almost nothing, and my networks goes back to normal.  I can reproduce this on any hardware, as long as it's running Ubuntu.
[19:49] <koperino> no new releases found when I want to upgrade, first upgrade to Natty was broken down by bad internet connexion help
[19:49] <myf> nemo im using awesome wm. supposely the ubuntu theme does not affect this
[19:49] <nemo> myf: about:config  layers.acceleration.disabled - try setting it to true
[19:49] <edbian> miceiken: You still there?
[19:49] <Might> my upgrade to 11.04 was a complete failure
[19:49] <miceiken> edbian: yes
[19:49] <myf> nemo: lemme take a look
[19:50] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: but what are you doing on the ubuntu machine to trigger it?  Simply running ubuntu by itself won't cause that behaviour...
[19:50] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: what I mean by max out, is anything that can fill our pipe, like a MS service pack download, or something like that.
[19:50] <oliver_> Wow. There is an update already. I will try it ....
[19:50] <Might> my nvidia drivers didn't exist anymore, and I'm an average linux user, I don't know how to install a driver from commandline
[19:50] <oliver_> THX
[19:50] <Might> so I ended up completely purging the linux partition on my drive using fire.
[19:50] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: all i'm doing on the ubuntu machine to trigger it is downloading something from the internet.
[19:50] <Cajun_Lan_Man> hell, even a youtube video will do it
[19:50] <edbian> miceiken: I don't see anything wrong with your /etc/network/interfaces.   What problem are you experiencing?
[19:51] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: webpages download just fine.  Only larger, single file downloads.
[19:51] <miceiken> edbian: as i said to komodo169, I can't tell, because the plymouth splash screen makes my monitor go black(inactive), so I can't find out what's wrong
[19:51] <Might> I think this whole aversion by ubuntu to using the nvidia proprietary drivers is a big overzealous
[19:51] <Might> bit*
[19:51] <edbian> miceiken: nvidia card?
[19:51] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: ubuntu software updates will usually do it too
[19:51] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: http download... hm.  that is extremely odd.  who administers the sonic wall and the network?  Are there policies set that the windows machines honour but your ubuntu machines don't (like dhcp hostname registration or something)?
[19:51] <miceiken> edbian, think so yes, anyway to check? :D
[19:52] <Might> how does one install an nvidia driver from commandline
[19:52] <edbian> miceiken: So the screen goes black during boot and never comes back or?
[19:52] <komodo169> miceiken: have you removed "splash" from the kernel command line?
[19:52] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: the network and sonicwall admin would be me.
[19:52] <Might> one who has barely -any- linux experience, is that really what people are forced to do when upgrading distros?
[19:52] <miceiken> edbian: correct, after the GRUB boot screen it goes black
[19:52] <edbian> miceiken: removing splash is a good idea.  So is booting nomodeset
[19:52] <myf> meno: tweaked layer.accleration, no changes
[19:52] <edbian> miceiken: Do you know how to change kernel options?
[19:52] <myf> nemo: tweaked layer.accleration, no changes
[19:52] <miceiken> No idea :)
[19:52] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: I've looked in every nook and cranny of that sonicwall, and I can't find anything that might do what it does.
[19:52] <komodo169> miceiken: you can remoive it permanently or per session
[19:52] <lcb> koperino, reboot, press shift before grub2 loads, select 2nd choice from top (recovery) - let it go for a bit, on the menu select root and type in the command ' sudo dpkg --configure -a ' to see if you get yur upgrading back
[19:53] <miceiken> permanently
[19:53] <edbian> miceiken: This explains in detail with screenshots :)  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[19:53] <bencc> how can I find out who is using file descriptors on my server?
[19:53] <koperino> thanx
[19:53] <Might> I can't remember a -single- major version upgrade that hasn't fallen on it's face completely and left my computer unusable. forcing me to reinstall using a new ISO of the new version
[19:53] <bencc> I've reached 1024 which seem to be the limit
[19:53] <mayenife> anyone use Zune w Banshee media player
[19:53] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: even bypassing the sonicwall with a content filter bypass doesn't help.
[19:53] <edbian> miceiken: Make sure you follow the directions for an installed OS (not wubi)
[19:53] <bindi> miceiken: o/ :D
[19:53] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: somehow it just doesn't like something Ubuntu does.
[19:53] <kothz> Am I to believe Google when it says that the Dash icons can't be made smaller?
[19:54] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: you /could/ set a traffic shaping policy on the ubuntu box that restricts downloads to 80% of the known bandwidth... look up wondershaper... http://lartc.org/wondershaper/
[19:54] <miceiken> it has to be done in GRUB loader?
[19:54] <miceiken> hi bindi
[19:54] <rsleventhal_> hi folks
[19:54] <mayenife> is Zune hd Compatible w 11.04, specifically banshee media player?
[19:55] <BlaDe^> I have a geforce 7000m and my graphics are all fuzzy --- what driver do i install?
[19:55] <Paytam> Ive a question about software developing. We are a group of 10 programmers who work on a open source project. The problem is we need to talk about it over internet because we are on different geographical places. Do you know any site  to do it?
[19:55] <edbian> miceiken: Yes.  But you have to press shift to even see the grub bootloader menu.  By default it is hidden in Ubuntu.
[19:55] <rsleventhal_> I've just upgraded a few servers from Maverick to Natty without any issues.  Did a fresh install of Natty Desktop...much to my surprise, there's no /var/log/messages file.  Is this to be expected?
[19:55] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: I'm glad you brought that up.  I've got wondershaper on the machine, but either I'm doing something wrong, or I just can't speed up what wondershaper is letting me do.  The command I'm using is "sudo wondershaper eth4 9999 9999".  Supposedly that will give me approx 10 megabit up/down.  But i'm only averaging 16kB/s
[19:56] <ketema> hello...when i turn an interface down with ifconfig wlan0 down it does not STAY down, auto starts back up within a few minutes.  how do i prevent it from auto starting, thanks ?
[19:56] <yehudah_> how do i start acpi once in unity
[19:56] <howkj1> I have external usb hard drives and am trying to format them after a failed attempt at software raid 1.... now gparted is complaining that the device /dev/sde1 is in use and I can't format it
[19:57] <IdleOne> howkj1: unmount it
[19:57] <miceiken> edbian: Save the file and exit gedit. If you have to add kernel options that contain quotation marks, add them as such:
[19:57] <miceiken> what do they mean with kernel options
[19:57] <howkj1> it isn't mounted
[19:57] <oliver_> hi nemo still does not work. :(
[19:58] <edbian> miceiken: quiet  is a kernel option
[19:58] <IdleOne> howkj1: gparted thinks it still is. try restarting gparted maybe?
[19:58] <mbeierl> Cajun_Lan_Man: and without wondershaper, do you get more than 16kB?
[19:58] <miceiken> edbian: but this: acpi_osi=\"Linux\"
[19:58] <edbian> miceiken: splash is a kernel option,    acpi_osi="linux"   is a kernel option.  To do that one you need to \" the quotes.  That's all they're saying.
[19:58] <vorlov> can anyone help me with ubuntu AWS images?
[19:58] <howkj1> root@Stealth1:/home/howkj1# pvs
[19:58] <howkj1>   Couldn't find device with uuid 'IgWiAe-ksXG-YKEd-lnGV-m0Fz-8U5M-0UauYZ'.
[19:58] <miceiken> is that needed?
[19:58] <howkj1>   PV             VG     Fmt  Attr PSize   PFree
[19:58] <howkj1>   /dev/md_d0     datavg lvm2 a-   931.51g 931.51g
[19:58] <howkj1>   unknown device datavg lvm2 a-   931.51g 931.51g
[19:58] <FloodBot1> howkj1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:58] <blenderbottle> why wont xchat connect to the irc.twit.tv server
[19:58] <Chipzzz> ketma: can you stop the network manager?
[19:58] <edbian> miceiken: You're adding nomodeset which does not contain quotes so the point is moot.
[19:58] <vorlov> seems to never recover from a shutdown
[19:59] <miceiken> oh
[19:59] <miceiken> doh
[19:59] <oliver_> Looks like the intel hd chip is not working correctly :(
[19:59] <Cajun_Lan_Man> mbeierl: I do for about 10 seconds, then the sonicwall shuts me down to nothing.
[19:59] <kothz> Q: ubuntu 11.04 smaller dash icons ... possible?
[19:59] <miceiken> thanks :)
[19:59] <ketema> Chipzzz: i am in ssh not a gui, what is the service or command I need to stop it ?
[19:59] <IdleOne> blenderbottle: connects fine here
[19:59] <edbian> miceiken: makes sense?
[19:59] <blenderbottle>  IdleOne ...what could i be doing wrong
[19:59] <blenderbottle> i can connect in irssi
[19:59] <oliver_> Any ideas, why the screen stays black after switching monitors on my intel hd chip based notebook
[19:59] <Chipzzz> ketma: try sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager stop
[20:00] <IdleOne> blenderbottle: not sure all I did was /server irc.twit.tv and it connected
[20:00] <KevinLaptop> Okay, this is ridiculous! I upgraded not so long ago, and my monitor just started saying last night "Input Range Out of Range" "Change setting to 1600x900 - 60Hz" but like, if I put it on that then it says that error, if its lower then it works, but its all blury and looks like crap
[20:00] <blenderbottle> wtf....
[20:00] <thauriswulfa> I heard something about lenses on unity , can somebody give me some idea like how to get some youtube lens?
[20:00] <bencc> "cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr" gives me "1024 0 38001" The file descriptors are used mainly by root and www-data so why do I hit the 1024 limit?
[20:00] <rsleventhal_> Has anyone encountered, with a fresh install of Natty (desktop - classic), that there is no /var/log/messages file?
[20:00] <miceiken> edbian: gonna try now, thanks :)
[20:00] <ketema> Chipzzz: that works and i got a nice message about it being converted to an Upstart job
[20:00] <edbian> miceiken: sure.
[20:00] <Chipzzz> :)
[20:01] <Dark_Star1> hello.. I'm having a problem starting Samba and I need help getting to the root of it.. the output of smbstatus  is: No Locked Files whilst looking at the samba.log.smbd file shows me: [2011/05/03 19:49:22.033587,  0] smbd/server.c:1255(main)  ERROR: failed to setup guest info.
[20:01] <howkj1> can anyone direct me to a channel for lvm removal / hard drive formatting issues? -thanks... using Ubuntu 10.04
[20:01] <xangua> thauriswulfa: omg!ubuntu! blog has a lot of tips about unity
[20:01] <ketema> Chipzzz: so i'll use stop next time...i am now back to trouble shooting my upgrade.  reason i am in ssh session is because i got no desktop after upgrade
[20:01] <KevinLaptop> Input signal out of range*
[20:01] <ketema> Chipzzz: just my old wallpaper
[20:01] <miceiken> edbian: seems like it's stuck on a screen with the "cursor" just blinking
[20:01] <bhaduza1> does wine run under unity menu on ubuntu 10.10?
[20:01] <thauriswulfa> xangua: I read that blog daily, but not able to find out about lenses?
[20:02] <miceiken> An Ubuntu 11.04 splash screen showed up for less than a second tho
[20:02] <edbian> miceiken: mhmm.  How did you change things?  By pressing shift and such?
[20:02] <xangua> thauriswulfa: it has a search button ;)
[20:02] <Chipzzz> ketma: I have heard so many complaints about the upgrade that I haven't ventured to try it yet... sorry I can't be of much more help
[20:02] <lcb> bhaduza1, yes, everything. just drag it
[20:03] <ketema> Chipzzz: lol no problem its not a critical machine just my Kids desktop
[20:03] <miceiken> edbian: no, permanent solution by editing /etc/default/grub
[20:03] <KevinLaptop> Anyone have any suggestions?
[20:03] <edbian> miceiken: Can you pastebin /etc/default/grub for me or is this machine not online.  How did you edit those files in the first place if your screen is black after the grub menu?
[20:03] <ketema> Chipzzz: although it is annoying that it basically bombed  i have two distinct problems.. the network was excruciatingly slow on wireless nic and no desktop
[20:04] <ketema> Chipzzz: been googling all day trying to fix it
[20:04] <Defusal_> anyone know why ubuntu servers dns would just suddenly break, when the dns servers are still functional?
[20:04] <lcb> Chipzzz, not really the upgrade but unity.  upgrade should let your system running fine.
[20:04] <Might> SCREW Ubuntu major revision upgrading, it -ALWAYS- breaks my system, I'm now so frustrated I am discontinuing use of linux based distributions entirely, GOOD DAY
[20:04] <syrinx_> ^ lol
[20:04] <edbian> bye
[20:04] <Defusal_> hahah
[20:04] <miceiken> edbian: I booted into recovery mode, with root acess. The only thing I did was adding nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT.
[20:05] <miceiken> edbian: I did change the network interface also tho
[20:05] <lcb> Chipzzz,there are some steps to take tough, like updating what you have first and checking for errors
[20:05] <edbian> miceiken: You've done all of these changes through recovery mode??
[20:05] <miceiken> edbian: yes, is that wrong? :D
[20:05] <cr4x0r> is there a fix for using an external monitor in 11.04 with nvidia?
[20:05] <Defusal_> can anyone tell me how i can "restart" any DNS related services?
[20:06] <edbian> miceiken: No that's fine.  I just want to get a clear picture.  So what options are in your GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[20:06] <edbian> ??
[20:06] <tapoxi> Hi guys, will gnome-shell make it into Ubuntu?
[20:06] <miceiken> hold on then I need to reboot into recovery mode again
[20:06] <edbian> miceiken: sure
[20:06] <yehudah_> can one start acpi from within unity
[20:06] <edbian> miceiken: Do you not remember?
[20:06] <Defusal_> tapoxi: gnome 3 is already out ;)
[20:07] <miceiken> edbian: not all of them :D
[20:07] <lcb> cr4x0r, yes, run classic desktop and install Avant Window Navigator. You'll have almost the same or better plus your graphics running fine.
[20:07] <Anton_new> hello everyone
[20:07] <edbian> miceiken: ok
[20:07] <syrinx_> Anton_new: hi
[20:07] <Anton_new> i need to install my Lexmark z13 printer
[20:07] <edbian> miceiken: Is this machine online in anyway?  (are you talking to me on a second machine?)
[20:07] <cr4x0r> lcb: thanks
[20:07] <Anton_new> please help
[20:07] <howkj1> Defusal_ : try : sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:07] <tapoxi> Defusal_: Ahh, I haven't upgraded to 11.04. So if I want to go to gnome 3 instead of unity, I can just install gnome-shell?
[20:07] <lcb> cr4x0r, try then running the graphics/monitor configuration from your driver utility.
[20:07] <Defusal_> howkj1, wont that kill my ssh?
[20:08] <howkj1> Defusal_ good point
[20:08] <Defusal_> :(
[20:08] <cr4x0r> lcb: i tried the monitor config in the default desktop (unity i guess?)
[20:08] <Defusal_> im wondering how people mostly deal with their servers dns suddenly dying...
[20:08] <miceiken> edbian: talking you on a second machine, yes. Seems like networking is disabled in the root recovery mode. Anyway, the options are "splash quiet nomodeset"
[20:08] <Defusal_> tapoxi: im not sure, but i dont think the gnome3 package will be called gnome-shell now that its stable
[20:09] <lcb> cr4x0r, to tell you the truth, i don't recommend no one to run unity when problems with graphics and much less with duals or triples whatever number monitors. classic is better.
[20:09] <edbian> miceiken: Try booting with no options at all.  This way we won't have a splash screen that is potentially crashing, and it won't be quite so we should see any errors that crop up.
[20:09] <edbian> miceiken: I've lost confidence in nomodeset since it didn't fix the problem immediately.
[20:09] <edbian> miceiken: To be clear.  This is Ubuntu 11.04 desktop?
[20:09] <cr4x0r> lcb: i dont use dual i really only use the one monitor, but its on a laptop
[20:10] <miceiken> edbian: 11.04 server
[20:10] <edbian> miceiken: ok
[20:10] <lcb> cr4x0r, it's the freaking natty + some drivers not updated + xorg stopping supporting some adapters that makes all problems.
[20:10] <BlaDe^> is there a fix for slow wifi on natty?
[20:10] <miceiken> still just the cursor, and a second of ubuntu splash screen oO
[20:10] <tapoxi> thanks Defusal_ !
[20:11] <cr4x0r> lcb: classic it is (= thanks again for your help
[20:11] <howkj1> Defusal_ : you could append... are you using sshd?
[20:11] <miceiken> edbian: still just the cursor, and a second of ubuntu splash screen oO - is this related to the network changes i did?
[20:11] <m4dv0y> hi guys!
[20:11] <BlouBlou> Anyone knows why I can't see icons in Unity? I can click on them, but I don't see any of them
[20:11] <lcb> cr4x0r, interestingly, awm (avant window manager) does a better job than unity, plus you do whatever you want with the desktop.
[20:11] <Defusal_> howkj1, yeah i am... append?
[20:12] <BlaDe^> nemo ah I see... Sucks
[20:12] <cr4x0r> lcb: ill give it  a shot
[20:12] <m4dv0y> i need some help. I've some dependencies. I tried to resolve the problems with apt-get -f install and synaptic's fix broken dependencies but nothing happened.
[20:12] <edbian> miceiken: I don't believe so.  Are you sure you're changing the options correctly?  It sounds as if they're having no effect which leads me to believe they're not being changed.  Have you been running sudo update-grub   ??
[20:12] <howkj1> Defusal_ : so you could restart your network with the previous line and then use pipe " | " .......
[20:12] <miceiken> edbian: oh doh forgot to do it this time
[20:12] <m4dv0y> update-manager said Can not upgrade An upgrade from '' to 'maverick' is not supported with this tool.
[20:13] <edbian> miceiken: That probably is why nothing changed.  (You're of course saving the /etc/default/grub file as well right?) :P
[20:13] <lcb> cr4x0r, it's a must. i stopped *supporting* unity environment. time enough for devs to fix the issues.
[20:13] <miceiken> edbian: yes I saved the file
[20:13] <edbian> miceiken: k
[20:13] <NFischer> HI all .. ive a Problem: i cant change Resolution to 1950x1080.. ive an ATI Radeon X1950XT Graphics Card.. Ubuntu Lucid (which im using) does not offer any prop. Drivers.. any suggestions?
[20:13] <Defusal_> ah, well yeah i guess, but i kinda need to find out why it would stop working, i cant restart the servers networking whenever the dns dies for no apparent reason...
[20:13] <Defusal_> @ howkj1
[20:13] <Chipzzz> m4dv0y: did you try sudo apt-get --check ?
[20:13] <m4dv0y> please help i dont wanna reinstall
[20:13] <howkj1> Defusal_ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart | /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[20:14] <m4dv0y> Chipzzz:  --check E: Command line option --check is not understood
[20:14] <thauriswulfa> xangua: But still I am not able to find the YOutube lens
[20:14] <jbwiv_> guys, after upgrading to narwhal, nothing is being written to /var/log/messages. Is this expected or is something going on?
[20:14] <howkj1> pipe should run both commands at the same time
[20:14] <miceiken> edbian: now it booted fine
[20:14] <Chipzzz> m4dv0y sorry it's just sudo apt-get check
[20:14] <miceiken> I am able to log in
[20:14] <vanguard> how can I manage via the console?
[20:14] <edbian> m4dv0y: System -> Admin -> software sources -> change the drop down menu from LTS releases to normal releases
[20:14] <howkj1> you might test it first
[20:14] <edbian> miceiken: Oh I'm good...
[20:14] <lcb> jbwiv_, something else is cooking there. what i have no clue
[20:14] <thauriswulfa> Where to get youtube lens for unity?
[20:15] <edbian> miceiken: So now, our network connection.  Is that owrking?
[20:15] <howkj1> Defusal_ if you are running a critical connection
[20:15] <dagon> How can you enable advanced features in the new Ubuntu release so I can have the wobbely windows etc The option is not there when you right click on the desktop
[20:15] <jbwiv_> lcb: ok, thanks
[20:15] <lcb> jbwiv_, try sudo apt-get check && sudo apt-get -f install
[20:16] <miceiken> edbian: nope, it isnt
[20:16] <trism> jbwiv_: in natty, /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default has /var/log/messages commented out, you could add it back if you wanted it (then restart rsyslog)
[20:16] <edbian> miceiken: sudo ifconfig -a    shows what?
[20:16] <bencc> how do I check the global max allowed file descriptors?
[20:16] <miceiken> edbian: eth0, eth1 and lo :D
[20:16] <thauriswulfa> Where to get askubuntu, youtube lens for unity?
[20:16] <edbian> miceiken: Do they have IP addresses?
[20:16] <mbroeker> bencc, ulimit -a
[20:17] <howkj1> dagon : sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:17] <Linuxboy133> hi all I have a question
[20:17] <edbian> miceiken: Run just 'sudo ifconfig'  it will show you only interfaces that are up
[20:17] <miceiken> edbian: doesn't say any ip adresses so I guess not. I tried to ping this computer and it said "Network is unreachable"
[20:17] <bencc> mbroeker: isn't it per user?
[20:17] <pankaj> Linuxboy133, ask
[20:17] <Linuxboy133> I want to use my apple ear buds mic for sype but it doesnt work > How or can they work with Ubuntu 10.10?
[20:17] <NFischer> HI all .. ive a Problem: i cant change Resolution to 1950x1080.. ive an ATI Radeon X1950XT Graphics Card.. Ubuntu Lucid (which im using) does not offer any prop. Drivers.. any suggestions?
[20:17] <Linuxboy133> skype
[20:17] <edbian> miceiken: sudo service networking restart
[20:17] <howkj1> dagon : or you could right click desktop and select change desktop background : visual effects : extra
[20:17] <nongol> how can i get rid of the new scrollbars on 11.4
[20:18] <yehudah_> can one start acpi from within unity
[20:18] <m4dv0y> http://pastebin.com/W1R7MUM9 that's my problem dependencies
[20:18] <miceiken> edbian: unknown instance: -- am i to specify eth0 ?
[20:18] <dagon> howkj1, I have it installed but you have to enable advanced visual features when you right click on the desktop and go to change backround, in this new release it's not there for some reasion and I'm in classic mode too when I logged on because the unity is another mess lol
[20:18] <vagvaf> guys when i shut down my system, the screen will switch off, but not the cpu and the fan seems to go crazy...any ideas?
[20:18] <edbian> miceiken: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  (I hate that quark of Ubuntu)
[20:18] <mbroeker> bencc, you can check /etc/security/limits.conf or the proc fs directly.
[20:18] <ketema> so in my upgrade to 11.04 i got wallpaper and that's it.  no Unity no old desktop nothin.  I can ssh in, and am wondering how I should go about starting a desktop ? any suggestions ?
[20:19] <edbian> miceiken: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and sudo service networking restart should achieve effectively the same thing.  For some reason the former doesn't work.
[20:19] <miceiken> edbian: Failed to bring up eth0
[20:19] <edbian> miceiken: Any details about why?
[20:19] <miceiken> edbian: "Don't seem to have all the variables for eth0/inet."
[20:19] <LAcan> does ubuntu ship with a native firewall?
[20:19] <dagon> well you are not missing much with Unity ketema It looks like a twisted messed up version of a mac oc
[20:19] <dagon> os
[20:20] <ketema> dagon: lol that's cool, i'd be fine with old desktop too
[20:20] <bencc> mbroeker: in /etc/security/limits.conf I have "root hard nofile 30000" and "root hard nofile 30000"
[20:20] <ketema> dagon: right now i can't get anything
[20:20] <edbian> miceiken: It does indeed have everything it needs...  Is 10.104 an address inside the DHCP range?
[20:20] <miceiken> wait
[20:20] <miceiken> I think I see it
[20:20] <edbian> miceiken: waiting...
[20:20] <miceiken> is it spelled address?
[20:21] <bencc> mbroeker: "sudo cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr" gives me "1024 0 38001" and it doesn't go over 1024
[20:21] <vanguard> how can I manage WIFI via the console?
[20:21] <miceiken> edbian: Yes, my ip is 105 here now
[20:21] <dagon> ketema, can you get a login screen when you fire up your box? If so on the bottom you have to select classic
[20:21] <miceiken> edbian: also I've spelled it "adress" is it "address"? :D
[20:21] <bencc> mbroeker: I thought that 1024 in "ulimit -a" is per user and in my case several users use the FD so I shouldn't hit the limit
[20:21] <ZekeS> vanguard: learn wpasupplicant :P
[20:21] <ketema> dagon: its set to auto login...how do I get it to logout ?
[20:21] <edbian> miceiken: your pastebin spells it correctly :)
[20:21] <edbian> miceiken: it is address
[20:22] <mbroeker> bencc, well, you know more about it than me.
[20:22] <bencc> mbroeker:  not sure. thanks :)
[20:22] <edbian> miceiken: Which machine is 105  ?
[20:22] <MK``> if I want to remove all config files when I remove a program, I have to use purge, and not the software center?
[20:22] <dagon> you have any desktop ketema or is it running in command line
[20:22] <miceiken> edbian: now it works :D this machine is 105, a windows one
[20:22] <vanguard> ZekeS: are you serious, or is this some sort of fancy joke?
[20:22] <edbian> miceiken: Everything is working then?
[20:23] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[20:23] <ketema> dagon: i can ssh in, but the actual console come up to wallpaper and that's it.  I can move the mouse but i get no context menus on right click, nothing but blank wallpaper
[20:23] <edbian> miceiken: I don't generally toot my own horn but I'm 2 for 2
[20:23] <miceiken> edbian: Haha, good job. Maybe it's just be being plain stupid tho. I greatly appreciate your help! Thank you :)
[20:23] <Linuxboy133> Anyone know how to get the apple ear buds with mic working in ubuntu 10.10
[20:23] <edbian> miceiken: NO problem.  Glad I could help :)  Have fun with Ubuntu! :D
[20:23] <ZekeS> vanguard: a joke - tbh I'm not sure what ubuntu/gnome has in place for that ...
[20:24] <ketema> dagon: where is the config file that specifies the desktop or X window manager ? if I can find that file perhaps I can change it and rebot ?
[20:24] <ish> Linuxboy133: are you using a macbook?
[20:24] <Linuxboy133> nope im using a dell
[20:24] <miceiken> edbian: thanks again, I'll probably be back tho :D
[20:24] <edbian> miceiken: :)
[20:24] <llutz> !info cnetworkmanager
[20:24] <vanguard> ZekeS: any idea where I can find something? I just want it to connect to my house network like it does automatically on gnome login
[20:24] <llutz> vanguard: ^^
[20:25] <vanguard> llutz: k, thx
[20:26] <dagon> I'm not sure on that ketema
[20:26] <jzbl> hi, i am looking if new ubuntu 11.04 has the support for realtek 8192se, I am currently using 10.04 LTS with matt price PPA to get wifi, but considering the switch...
[20:26] <dagon> I can't even get my advanced visual features to get enabled
[20:26] <jzbl> can't find info anywhere..
[20:27] <crash82> Hello, What is the best IRC chat for linux ?
[20:28] <ZekeS> oh god
[20:28] <ketema> dagon: ok thanks i'll keep asking and googling
[20:28] <nongol> is there a way to disable the fancy new scrollbars in ubuntu 11.4 natty unity UI?  they don't seem2work in eclipse
[20:28] <bsodmike> back
[20:28] <ZekeS> crash82 you fool!
[20:28] <lunarmage> hello
[20:28] <bsodmike> how can I change my mysql root pass?
[20:28] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[20:28] <Pici> !best | crash82
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Crash82: there is no single best app for anything
[20:28] <bsodmike> login, use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD(‘YOURNEWPASSWORD’) WHERE User=’root’; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; exit;  ??
[20:28] <dagon> Same here ketema I'm not happy with this new release at all
[20:28] <ZekeS> crash82: I like weechat myself
[20:28] <lunarmage> My sounds stopped working with the new release
[20:29] <tomlin> hi someone using gnome3 in 11.4?
[20:29] <botcity> jzbl, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1538486
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Crash82: its as intelligent as asking what the best colour is
[20:29] <ketema> dagon: lol it sucks but luckily its just my 6 year old computer..she isn't too upset
[20:29] <crash82> Ok, I need a irc chat that allows me to do cascading of windows so I can follow multiple channels easily
[20:30] <jbwiv_> Guys, I've verified that on all four machines that I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.10, /var/log/messages is no longer being written to. It's just empty. Any ideas what could cause this?
[20:30] <bsodmike> ActionParsnip: any ideas on changing mysql root pass?
[20:30] <LAcan> ActionParsnip, can you help me with VNC real quick?
[20:30] <jzbl> botcity: I have it already working in 10.04, I need to know if 11.04 has the staging build working or some sort of additional package
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Crash82: you are using an OS which trumpets choice and freedom. Try a few and see which YOU think is best
[20:30] <trism> nongol: try running: LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0 eclipse; you could also uninstall liboverlay-scrollbar-0.1-0 if you wanted them gone everywhere
[20:30] <dagon> lol ketema atleast you are getting her up with linux though at her young age, I've been working on computers since I was like 13 and I'm 30 now but never ever dwelled into linux until a year ago.. Imagine what I could of learned years back
[20:31] <jzbl> botcity: the PPA the provides me with rtl8192se-dmks is not providing builds for anything else than lucid..
[20:31] <tomlin> someone has a working autologin in gnome3?
[20:31] <trism> jbwiv_: in natty, /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default has /var/log/messages commented out, you could add it back if you wanted it (then restart rsyslog) (repost from above)
[20:31] <Pici> bsodmike: UPDATE mysql.user SET Password=PASSWORD('YOURNEWPASS') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES;
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> LAcan: i don't use vnc. I find it ungraceful and clumsy
[20:31] <dualcore> firestarter is saying it cant read the system log and i can't see any events ?
[20:31] <LAcan> ActionParsnip, what do you use?
[20:31] <bsodmike> hey Pici!
[20:31] <trism> jbwiv_: although it is actually /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf; typo
[20:31] <bsodmike> nice to see you again mate
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> bsodmike: no idea, sorry
[20:31] <nongol> trism: thanks, will try that
[20:31] <Pici> bsodmike: Howdy.  I'm always here ;)
[20:31] <jbwiv_> trism, interesting. so where do messages which would have gone to /var/log/messages now go?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> LAcan: web uis or ssh
[20:32] <ketema> dagon: yeah ubuntu is great for kids because of the gui, but to be honest i find that the gui gets in my way...
[20:32] <edbian> ketema: Me too
[20:32] <rcmaehl> Help. My mic is showing up and unmute, sound works, but the mic doesn't I've tried it on oterh computers and it works fine. It is a 3.5mm mic
[20:32] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[20:32] <ketema> dagon: i know that the unity or whatever it is has a config file somewhere...just need to find it and turn it off or revert back to old window manager
[20:32] <flametai1> Ubuntu 11.04 won't work on my computer for some reason, won't go past the purple loading screen, can anyone help me out? o=-o
[20:33] <bob__> anybody know where wxBanker stores your files? (not in Home or Documents)
[20:33] <blackbit> flametai1: what error does it give you?
[20:33] <jbwiv_> trism, do they now go to /var/log/syslog?
[20:33] <trism> jbwiv_: it was mostly a mix of kern.log and syslog, although some messages may be missing, I haven't really checked
[20:33] <trueman> You to find edid.bin find for your monitor
[20:33] <flametai1> blackbit, no clue, nothing will come up other than the terminal
[20:33] <ray24> Hi, how do you give yourself permission to delete/create in a secondary hard drive?
[20:34] <dagon> Yes ketema I was drawn to it because of the user friendly aspect I'm in the process of getting around the OS using strictly the terminal I'm not completly lost on it I slung keys in dos for a long time when I was around 16 or so when the rockin 386 SX mother boards were out heh
[20:34] <lunarmage> help me get my sound back to my speakers?
[20:34] <jbwiv_> trism, ok, thank you!
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> ketema: use a different UI and it can look like any other distribution or even a different OS
[20:34] <edbian> bob__: Guessing but probably in /home/you/.wxbanker
[20:34] <flametai1> I mean nothing will come up other than the purple screen, sorry about that blackbit lol
[20:34] <ketema> i found an article that says when you have no window manager to right click the dekstop and create a folder then enter the folder to get into the file manager...when i try to do this the context menu flashes reall quickly then disappers...
[20:34] <twilno> today is a wonderful day
[20:34] <twilno> ahhhh
[20:34] <flametai1> I've tried bringing up a console but nothing works
[20:34] <blackbit> flametai1: upgrade I bet
[20:34] <edbian> ketema: Hold down the button.
[20:34] <Chipzzz> ray24: man mount should help
[20:34] <flametai1> m5d check sum or w/e works fine too
[20:34] <epimeth> hi folks... I've just set up 10.04 server and noticed it didn't come with sendmail (php couldn't send mail) so I installed sendmail and set the directive in php.ini to /usr/sbin/sendmail.    mail() returns true but no mail is sent and I can't find any errors... can anyone help?
[20:35] <carl-m> Just installed 11.04, running xfce. When I go to the printer configuration, it asks me for the root password :)  Does anyone know what command that is so I can run it in sudo?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> ketema: dislike of a distribution as customizable as linux based on the UI makes no sense at all
[20:35] <tomlin> someone has a working auto login in gnome3?
[20:35] <flametai1> blackbit, yes it was an upgrade, I tried making a fresh install with 11.04 though using a USB boot but my computer won't even bring the install menu up for it.
[20:35] <rcmaehl> carl-m: your password
[20:35] <bob__> edbian: I'll try there - thanks (I am using 10.04LTS as I dislike 11.04)
[20:35] <edbian> bob__: ok.
[20:35] <n-iCe> hi
[20:36] <ketema> ActionParsnip: who said i did not like linux ? i love linux and i like ubuntu is fine for my kids
[20:36] <flametai1> Any idea blackbit?
[20:36] <n-iCe> other tty got frozen, how do I unfroze it? I am in alt + ctrl + f4
[20:36] <howlatnight> has anyone ever had success compiling a source version of dsniff?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> carl-m: run the installer with sudo and use your log in pass
[20:36] <n-iCe> but I was downloading a big file
[20:36] <trueman> Does anybody use linux mint?
[20:36] <n-iCe> I don't want to lose it
[20:36] <blackbit> flametai1: I can't solve your issue, but I had a similar one while upgrading from 10.10. Stuck on login, it gave me a 'module is unknown' error after typing credentials and pressing login. I spent about 1 hour looking for solutions in a forum but just spent 15 minutes making a fresh install
[20:36] <n-iCe> can I move a proccess to other tty?
[20:36] <blackbit> flametai1: Hope you get the idea
[20:36] <Guest73337> \list
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> ketema: same deal. You can change it as you wish. Its not just for kids by any stretch
[20:37] <carl-m> ActionParsnip: I am going to install a network printer; I'm not sure what you mean by the install program
[20:37] <trueman> Does anyone use linux Mint?
[20:37] <ketema> edbian: that holding down did not help...by the way the screen flickers i think i have a driver problem...the video card is old but its has 256 MB vram its an old nvidia...im going to try a different video card and see if it helps
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> trueman: mint is offtopic and unsupported here
[20:37] <n-iCe> nobody?
[20:38] <edbian> ketema: Ok.  Also, does alt + F2 do anything?
[20:38] <ketema> ActionParsnip: actually my kids love it
[20:38] <chaospsyX> should I download and install the updates for 10.10 ? everything is working like a charm and I am kind of apprehensive about updating 10.10
[20:38] <flametai1> blackbit, any idea why the installer wouldn't work then?
[20:38] <lcb> n-iCe, let it go, probably a mem issue and it might go away in time.
[20:38] <trueman> ActionParsnip, do you always use only ubuntu?
[20:38] <arsenall> trueman: you have problems with mint?
[20:38] <xc> Hi guys!
[20:38] <n-iCe> lcb:  I am downloading the file from chrome how can I see the % of downloading
[20:39] <n-iCe> to wait until it finish
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> carl-m: the installer asking for root. Stop it then run the command prefixed with sudo
[20:39] <lcb> n-iCe, no other tty?
[20:39] <blackbit> flametai1: I am not sure because I never did an USB install, but I've read that USB-boot is not always possible with older bioses. Maybe I am wrong, but I suggest you to check your bios to see if you see any related option and enable it eventually
[20:39] <carl-m> ActionParsnip: I am not running an installer, I am running the 'Printing' item on the settings menu
[20:39] <n-iCe> lcb: yes I have the others tty I am in other right now
[20:39] <carl-m> my question was what program to run from the command line
[20:40] <trueman> Guys, do you like unity?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> trueman: no my lappy runs xpud most days and my samba box runs puppy
[20:40] <lcb> n-iCe, command top
[20:40] <pankaj> trueman, NO
[20:40] <arsenall> trueman: no
[20:40] <alvaro> Hello
[20:40] <trueman> hm...
[20:40] <xc> Gnome :D
[20:40] <n-iCe> done lcb now?
[20:40] <Omega> trueman: I do.
[20:40] <Omega> !oi
[20:40] <Omega> !ot
[20:40] <tomlin> hi
[20:40] <person> ???
[20:40] <arsenall> trueman: i prefer gnome-shell, but it always crashes
[20:40] <brontosaurusrex> i have that old issue of mice pointer not wanting to be scaled, which is i think compiz related, what was/is the solution nowadays? (i did fix that in 10.10 somehow...)
[20:41] <lcb> n-iCe, you see if the process is running.
[20:41] <brontosaurusrex> running 11.04 classic
[20:41] <Omega> !ot > arsenall
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> carl-m: then that shouldn't need more than user access
[20:41] <xc> Arsenall : crash?!
[20:41] <trueman> can you explain? why is unity so bad?
[20:41] <edbian> brontosaurusrex: If you're running try turning compiz off, scaling the mouse, and turning compiz back on.  This is the most annoying thing ever IMHO
[20:41] <n-iCe> lcb: chrome is running, of course, I wanna know the % of the download in chrome
[20:41] <n-iCe> lcb: I can't even run startx again
[20:41] <arsenall> it doesnt work normaly
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Trueman: its ok (unity)
[20:41] <carl-m> ActionParsnip: yes, but it is asking me for the root password - that's why I put the smiley face on my original question. there is no root password, but the default install is asking for it, so I am trying to work around it
[20:41] <arsenall> in natty
[20:42] <ray24> I'm unable to delete/modify content in my secondary hard drive, I believe it has something to do with mount permission
[20:42] <brontosaurusrex> edbian, let me try...
[20:42] <Omega> n-iCe: What crashed?
[20:42] <xc> arsenall : It's very strange! O.o
[20:42] <n-iCe> s
[20:42] <n-iCe> s
[20:42] <arsenall> i think it's problem with nvidia drivers
[20:42] <edbian> brontosaurusrex: I'm not sure it is the solution.  Just an idea.
[20:42] <Omega> n-iCe: What crashed?
[20:42] <lcb> n-iCe, i don't know if is possible to do that. my suggestion is let the dld go and put the tty on the graphic environment afterwards
[20:42] <xc> it's probably
[20:42] <brontosaurusrex> edbian, rings a bell a bit...
[20:42] <arsenall> my english knowledge is not very good, Sorry
[20:43] <edbian> brontosaurusrex: yeah.  Same for me
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Carl-m: use alacarte to find the command that menu item runs then run it with sudo
[20:43] <tajpan_22> hello everybody
[20:43] <n-iCe> lcb:  but how can I know when it finished
[20:43] <lcb> n-iCe, by looking at top
[20:44] <Omega> n-iCe: I am trying to help you, what crashed?
[20:44] <tajpan_22> can someone help me with gentoo?
[20:44] <n-iCe> Omega: everything
[20:44] <Pici> tajpan_22: Try #gentoo
[20:44] <Omega> n-iCe: so compiz?
[20:44] <trueman> nvidia drivers cannot detect EDID info from our monitors=( it's a nvidia's bug, or monitor manufactures... i don't know
[20:44] <n-iCe> Omega: I was on skype then all got freeze
[20:44] <n-iCe> Omega: dunno
[20:44] <tajpan_22> ok, thanks
[20:44] <n-iCe> lcb: but says just chrome running, it does not say if the download finished
[20:44] <Omega> n-iCe: Go in a tty and type the following: sudo killall -9 compiz && unity
[20:44] <carl-m> ActionParsnip: thanks, 'alacarte' was what I was missing
[20:44] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Trueman: then run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[20:45] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to disable monitor hotplug polling..but even with sudo, I'm getting permission denied....
[20:45] <lcb> n-iCe, but you have there much more than saying is running, don't you? you could have the idea by the load if the memory leak or whatever causing that drops down
[20:45] <trueman> ActionParsnip, for what?
[20:46] <trueman> i already have xorg.conf in /etc/X11 )
[20:46] <brontosaurusrex> edbian, didnt work
[20:46] <edbian> brontosaurusrex: sorry.  It was just a guess!
[20:46] <tomlin> someone using gnome 3 in ubuntu 11.4
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Trueman: your monitor isn't talking to your system to report refresh rates etc. The command builds an xorg.conf file for you which may help
[20:47] <dd214> tomlin, yes most of us are
[20:47] <Geoffrey2> the command I'm trying is 'echo 0 > /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll' ... even with sudo in front, permission denied
[20:47] <kaffe_02> is there a way to move the unity launcher from one monitor to another?
[20:47] <Pici> dd214, tomlin: No, Ubuntu uses Unity by default, not GNOME 3.
[20:47] <LAcan> Can someone help me with VNC real quick? I'm trying to connect from TightVNC on windows to my ubuntu machine but keep getting the error "Server did not offer supported security type!"
[20:48] <tomlin> dd214 : is autol login working for you?
[20:48] <n-iCe> I am back, just rebooted
[20:48] <trism> Geoffrey2: echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/module/drm_kms_helper/parameters/poll; > is captured by the shell and is run as your user, not root
[20:48] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[20:48] <dd214> tomlin, do you mean keeping my Gnome3 preference when logging in?
[20:48] <lcb> kaffe_02, it's heavy :p (on your graphics utility change the monitors) other way i don't believe it's possible
[20:48] <tomlin> thanks pici but you can install gnome?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: sudo doesn't go over the >
[20:49] <lenios> LAcan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[20:49] <Omega> n-iCe: You didn;t take my advice?
[20:49] <dd214> tomlin, nvrmnd.. sorry, I force authentication
[20:49] <RealOp> how can i upgrade from a CD ?
[20:49] <Omega> n-iCe: And if that didn't work, I knew how to check if it was done with the download.
[20:49] <Omega> n-iCe: But oh well.
[20:49] <RealOp> I have the 11.04 CD, im running 10.10, should be simple?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Realop: you must use alternative cd
[20:49] <Souperman> RealOp, do a clean install
[20:50] <Omega> RealOp: I would reccomend you backup your files and do a fresh install
[20:50] <kaffe_02> lcb: thanks, one is my laptop the other is a separate monitor and I want it on the monitor not my laptop
[20:50] <Geoffrey2> ActionParsnip, ok, obviously they're expecting people visiting launchpad to be slightly more linux savvy that I am at present :)
[20:50] <RealOp> ActionParsnip, does alt cd support 64bit?
[20:50] <tomlin> dd214 ok thx .. i tried all ops but i always have to authenticate too... i m wondering
[20:50] <Geoffrey2> trism, thanks :)
[20:50] <Omega> ActionParsnip: No, he doesn't need the alternative cd.
[20:50] <lcb> kaffe_02, running unity or classic?
[20:50] <Omega> RealOp: You don't need the alt cd.
[20:50] <kaffe_02> lcb: unity
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: use: sudo -i   first and you'll be ok
[20:50] <Omega> RealOp: the normal one is fine
[20:50] <lcb> kaffe_02, with no problemas at all? :o
[20:51] <Soothsayer> Anyone virtualizing Windows 7 within Ubuntu ?
[20:51] <Omega> From natty onwards you can upgrade through the normal iso too.
[20:51] <RealOp> Omega, how can i upgrade via iso or cd?
[20:51] <RealOp> !upgrade
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> Omega: for an upgrade using a CD you should use the alt CD. Check the upgrade docs
[20:51] <Omega> RealOp: do you have it burned?
[20:51] <lcb> kaffe_02, more than 1 moni on unity is giving a lot of probs, that's why i asked
[20:51] <RealOp> i have both
[20:52] <Omega> ActionParsnip: There is a new feature in the natty installer, he can use the normal cd.
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Realop: ISO and CD are no different in Linux
[20:52] <Omega> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/ubuntu-live-cd-will-let-you-upgrade-to.html
[20:52] <kaffe_02> lcb: yeah no problem just super+a find monitors and then it was able to detect the displays with out any problems
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Omega: is user upgrading to natty?
[20:53] <lcb> kaffe_02, do you have catalystic on preferences?
[20:53] <Geoffrey2> I'm having fun with the dmesg bug....the one where your entire dmesg output is a bunch of errors
[20:53] <brontosaurusrex> uhmm, how about some fancy mouse trail effect in compiz?, that would do, if i can't have huge pointer
[20:53] <lcb> kaffe_02, i mean catalyst
[20:53] <Omega> ActionParsnip: yes
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Omega: current release could be Lucid...
[20:54] <Omega> He said 10.10.
[20:54]  * RealOp is on lucid
[20:54] <Omega> < RealOp> I have the 11.04 CD, im running 10.10, should be simple?
[20:54] <kaffe_02> lcb: I dont think so, how can I check that?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Omega: cool. Was unaware of the feature. My bad
[20:55] <Omega> RealOp: We can't help you if you mislead us.
[20:55] <jakegub> Is there a fix yet for the blank screen during NEW install of 11.04?
[20:55] <lcb> kaffe_02, search on apps by control center
[20:55] <Omega> ActionParsnip: no problem mate
[20:55] <RealOp> Omega, sorry i have too many machines running diff versions
[20:55] <RealOp> You are using Ubuntu 10.10
[20:55] <RealOp>                 - the Maverick Meerkat - released in October 2010
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> jakegub: which video chip do you have?
[20:56] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[20:56] <Omega> RealOp: My advice would be to backup and do a fresh install.
[20:56] <jakegub> ActionParsnip: Geforce 540m on a Clevo notebook
[20:56] <RealOp> Omega, ty for the link ill give it a go later
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Jakegub: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Omega: +1 for clean install
[20:57] <netcrash> irc on empathy :D
[20:57]  * ketema changed video card and 11.04 came up...is there a recommended video card list somewhere ? that way when I do my next one i won't have this issue with no desktop
[20:57]  * RealOp will do clean install
[20:57] <jakegub> ActionParsnip: forgive me, During installation I add that as a --tag to the boot options?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> !hcl
[20:58] <lcb> RealOp, backup with the live cd /home
[20:58] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[20:58] <tomlin> GNOME3 possible to put system monitor to panel on top?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Jakegub: remove: quiet splash    and add in in the same place
[20:58] <xskydevilx> How do I set a manually screen resolution because on my netbook the maximum of 1024x600 isn't showing up?
[20:59] <rabies> anyone know why in 10.04 I could be getting the following error when trying to use bibtex: I couldn't open style file IEEETran.bst
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Tomlin: its not supported here. Try #gnome
[20:59] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the DAAP record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[20:59] <tomlin> ActionParship: ok i try
[21:01] <Pretto> is there a way to save unity session?
[21:01] <jakegub> ActionParsnip: I will try it.  Thank you for the suggestions.
[21:01] <n-iCe> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: which video chip?
[21:02] <lcb> n-iCe, got it?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> N-ice: liquid football
[21:02] <n-iCe> lcb: just reboote
[21:02] <n-iCe> rebooted
[21:02] <lcb> geee
[21:02] <lcb> ok....
[21:02] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip: GMA 950
[21:03] <W00tty> Hi there
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: what is the output of: lsb_release -a
[21:03] <W00tty> i've a little question.. is the 11.04 great ?
[21:03] <yehudah_> hi
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: -d   is fine
[21:03] <bob__> debian: files are in usr/share/wxbanker/fixtures and are of the form *.db
[21:04] <lcb> W00tty, it is, under Ubuntu Classic desktop
[21:04] <yehudah_> how can you start acpi after booting up
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> W00tty: works fine here, has done since alpha 2
[21:04] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602957/
[21:04] <W00tty> lcd, what's new other than gnome 3 ? :p
[21:05] <hepek> did anybody break wireless (AR928X Atheros) when dist-upgrading from 10.10
[21:05] <lcb> !info gnome | W00tty
[21:05] <Toph> ActionParsnip,,, is 11.04 Ubuntu Classic just 10.10?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> W00tty: gnome3 isn't any part of natty by default
[21:06] <W00tty> ahh i see
[21:06] <W00tty> i'll try it :O
[21:06] <W00tty> thanks :)
[21:06] <Pici> Toph: Ubuntu Classic is GNOME 2.x, not Unity
[21:06] <guntbert> !gnome3 | W00tty
[21:07] <W00tty> !openoffice
[21:07] <vish> !msgthebot > W00tty
[21:07] <W00tty> <3 ubottu :D
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Toph: natty has a gnome classic session which looks like maverick desktop
[21:07] <samtate> Hi, is there any way to get playlists in the sound menu on 10.10 Maverick. I refuse to upgrade to 11.04 until the bugs have been sorted out in a few months
[21:08] <W00tty> thanks :)
[21:08] <samtate> Hi, is there any way to get playlists in the sound menu on 10.10 Maverick (maybe just using the natty soundmenu?). I dont want to upgrade to 11.04
[21:09] <arand> samtate: No need to repeat
[21:09] <ray24> If someone can help me access my hard drive, it would be great
[21:09] <vish> samtate: the support landed on 11.04, there is no easy way and not sure if anyone has tried, but if you want you could try upgrading the indicator and banshee extension
[21:09] <samtate> vish, how would I do that?
[21:09] <Toph> Pici,,, ok,, followup question: I can't log into Unity, but I can into Classic. Then when I go to CompizConfig Settings manager and activate the Ubuntu Unity Plugin, I get what looks like Unity (sidebar)  . Am I in what would be full Unity?
[21:09] <W00tty> @ray24 how do you want to access ur hardrive ?
[21:09] <ubunub> ray24, how so?
[21:09] <arand> ray24: Could you give some more details?
[21:09] <gaspar|work> Hey guys, I updated to 11.04 from 10.10 and the log out button and volume control are missing. I had to disable unity as my graphic card was not powerful enough and the next time I restarted my mac they did not come up.
[21:09] <ray24> well, my secondary hard drive won't allow me access to delete or create files on it
[21:10] <vish> samtate: right, ;)  its not an easy way.. and no one might have tried it.. you'd have to figure it out yourself ;p[
[21:10] <Pici> Toph: I really don't have much Unity knowledge, your best bet would be to ask the channel.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: you can either form an xorg.conf file or try xorg edgers ppa. xorg.conf is safer but may take longer. Xorg edgers ppa may fix it but the driver are very experimental and may break stuff
[21:10] <ubunub> ray24 as in you dont have permission?
[21:10] <tomlin> real vs. barcelona 1 : 1
[21:10] <Toph> Pici,,,    ok, can anyone else help me on that one?
[21:10] <samtate> vish, are there packages or a ppa though?
[21:10] <bassliner> so is there any way to move the icon bar on the left to the right side? or to the left side of the right of 2 monitors?
[21:11] <xskydevilx> ActionParsnip: Okay. Do you mind explaining the xorg.conf file editing? I'm a noob in GNU/Linux in general.
[21:11] <ray24> When I try to unmount it, it saids "Failed to eject media; one or more volumes on the media are busy."
[21:11] <vish> samtate: no ppa, you;d have to download the natty packages and install in maverick.. should probably work since not much has changed from maverick » natty , atleast the GTK/GNOME part
[21:11] <bassliner> i (again) feel like these limiting renewals are just retarded.
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Toph: i have the same. I need a startup item to run: compiz --replace   at logon
[21:11] <amstan> ActionParsnip: so i have a bunch of debs now, for my haskell install, i would like to make it easier for myself to use them, can i create a ppa with them in there?
[21:12] <samtate> vish, so where are the packages? Any particular site?
[21:12] <ubunub> ray24 so how does that effect your reading/writing abilities?
[21:12] <amstan> ActionParsnip: they're unmodified, just downloaded them from the ubuntu sid repo
[21:12] <vish> samtate: on launchpad
[21:12] <Toph> ActionParsnip,,, ok,, then I should be ok, in spite of getting at it in a roundabout way
[21:12] <tanath> anyone else getting "No indicators" on gnome panel in 10.10?
[21:12] <W00tty> @ray check if you don't have anything running (like the file explorer on it)... dunno
[21:12] <ray24> ubunub, my abilities?
[21:12] <Logan_> !ot | tomlin
[21:12] <vish> bassliner: that bar cannot be moved..
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> xskydevilx: its a complicated file. Hunt round and you will find examples
[21:13] <ubunub> ray24, yes.
[21:13] <samtate> vish, There are no debs, so obviously I will have to compile
[21:13] <ray24> ubunub, it doesn't make sense that I'd get that prompt, since I'm not running any application from that hd
[21:13] <samtate> vish, ?
[21:13] <bassliner> vish: whoever decided that i couldn't layout my desktop by my own, deserves to be shot and needs better/other drugs.
[21:13] <ubunub> if i comes to it though, eject it from the side panel in nautilus and see if it works.
[21:13] <vish> samtate: the natty debs should be available.. the ones that are installed for natty
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> amstan: sudo dpkg -i *.deb   will install them
[21:14] <samtate> vish, i cant see any
[21:14] <amstan> ActionParsnip: i know, but i want a ppa, or something similar to host them for other comps
[21:14] <ray24> The goal here isn't unmounting, I want permission to delete my files, I believe I made an error yesterday when I deleted bundles of files from it
[21:14] <vish> bassliner: the design team, but  thats offtopic here.. feel free to use #ubuntu-offtopic for venting ;)
[21:14] <bassliner> i can just hope no other unix desktop environment would follow this silly limiting b/s.
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Bassliner: use gnome classic and you can
[21:15] <bassliner> ActionParsnip: i'll rather fork unity on my own and hack it to the bone to let it just do what i want.
[21:15] <vish> samtate: as i said, that takes some work.. it *will* be there, search launchpad for the debs..
[21:15] <vish> !ot | bassliner
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Bassliner: your call
[21:16] <yehudah_> ubottu: how can you start acpi after booting up
[21:16] <tomlin> logan_:ach so _wrong channel...
[21:16] <Logan_> tomaw: No worries.
[21:16] <Logan_> *tomlin
[21:16] <H1N1> libxtst is installed . i can see it in usr/lib when when i compile my application using "gcc".it is giving Error of libxtst like this:-
[21:16] <Chipzzz> bassliner: you know where to find the sources ;)
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[21:17] <H1N1> Error-> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxtst collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[21:17] <samtate> vish, I assure you its not there - in deb form at least
[21:17] <H1N1> Error-> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxtst collect2: ld returned 1 exit status.......................[libxtst is installed . i can see it in usr/lib when when i compile my application using "gcc".]
[21:17] <ray24> Cmon where's ubunub I have lots of faith in you
[21:18] <ubunub> ry24 right here lol
[21:18] <ubunub> erm ray24
[21:18] <Stereocaulon> I've noticed that after the upgrade to Natty, an ugly bug reared it's head again. When using the Flash Plugin all other sound output seems to be blocked, even when the video is paused. Adobe is the most probable culprit, yet I think that no plugin should have that much power over the rest of the system, hogging all sound resources...
[21:18] <gunther44> hi, i'm having a weird problem while compiling that google isn't much help with:
[21:18] <johnathan> im trying to install ubuntu with a usb drive, but im not sure how to do so...
[21:18] <vish> samtate: the debs are definitely needed to install those packages in natty, so there is no possible way the debs are not present.. (nope, I aint gonna search for it) :)
[21:18] <gunther44> cc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory
[21:19] <edbian> johnathan: Did you create the USB drive?
[21:19] <trism> H1N1: it appears to be a capital X, -lXtst
[21:19] <vish> samtate: but they are there.. ;)
[21:19] <gunther44> how can i resolve this? i've no idea what cc1 is supposed to be
[21:19] <Stereocaulon> !enter | gunther
[21:19] <johnathan> edbian, meaning?
[21:19] <ubunub> ray24 what is the format f the drive? ntfs?
[21:19] <edbian> johnathan: I'll take that as a 'no'  :)   Here is a guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[21:20] <receptor> i wanted to install ubuntu alongside windows 7. ubuntu LTS installer resized my data partition. i aborted the installation. i have a backup of mbr and two bootsectors for windows and data partitions. if i restore the backups e.g. using dd, will that be enough to restore my system to previous state?
[21:20] <samtate> vish, Hey I found it ;)
[21:20] <johnathan> edbian, ok, thanks
[21:20] <ray24> YYeah ubuntulo1
[21:20] <ray24> I mean ubunub
[21:20] <edbian> johnathan: :)
[21:20] <vish> samtate: neat! i told ya it will be there..  :)
[21:20] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: i take it you of course can help me though despite not overlooking a shoddy copy/paste job
[21:20] <samtate> vish, Cheers :P
[21:21] <toto654> Hey everybody, anyone know of a good voip program?
[21:21] <raven_> how to write dates/times from filename (yyyy-mm-dd - hh.mm.ss.jpg) to exif?
[21:21] <Logan_> !voip | toto654
[21:21] <ray24> ubunub and I'm pretty sure that it's not an hd issue because I could delete files when plugged into another computer.
[21:21] <samtate> vish, Now I have to get the dependencies D:. Not a difficult task, just a tedious one
[21:21] <ubunub> ray24, there are apps in the app manager that may help you. hold on and let me see if i can find a name.
[21:21] <Stereocaulon> gunther44, Well, first of all I can hardly begin to help you if I don't know what you are compiling and what your'actions were that initiated the compiling
[21:22] <ray24> ubunub, thanks dude.
[21:22] <Rehan> does the 64bit ubuntu iso also have the 32bit version on it?
[21:22] <edbian> Rehan: no
[21:22] <amstan> Rehan: no
[21:22] <Soothsayer> Rehan: no
[21:23] <DaGeek247> ray24, NTFS Configuration Tool sounds promising.
[21:23] <Zelluz> Rehan:
[21:23] <sudocomm> this has probably been asked many times already since natty release but has there been a fix found for nvidia video drivers?   additional drivers shows "This driver is activated but not currently in use"
[21:23] <howlatnight> has anyone been able to compile dsniff from source?
[21:23] <DaGeek247> heck, ubottu might know some tips.
[21:23] <DaGeek247> !ntfs
[21:23] <Soothsayer> sudocomm: I had that too, but I ignored it. Does the Nvidia X Server settings window open ?
[21:23] <Rehan> wow, i guess my old HP laptop is actually 64bit then...all this time i'd been installing 32bit on it and then yesterday i accidentally forgot and used a 64bit liveUSB to install
[21:23] <raven_> how to write dates/times from filename (yyyy-mm-dd - hh.mm.ss.jpg) to exif?
[21:24] <Rehan> sudocomm: i have the same "error" but it seems to work on my vaio with nvidia
[21:24] <Stereocaulon> gunther44, if you need to display a lot of text in an orderly matter without disrupting the flow of the channel, there is a good option here, called pastebin. You can ask our friendly bot ubottu if you don't know what pastebin entails.
[21:24] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: cc hello.c where the file is #include <stdio.h> int main(){print "hello";return 0;}
[21:24] <sudocomm> it does but I cannot get my desktop to go over to my 2nd monitor
[21:24] <dd214> Is there any software that I can use for Visio diagrams?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: you can install i32-libs and run 32bit apps (you will need to satisfy 32bit deps manually)
[21:24] <dd214> Or when in doubt.. VM out!
[21:24] <Under97> #ubuntu-it
[21:24] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: no thats not my issue
[21:24] <lyle> why don't i have the "grub" command installed by default? and apparently i have a "grub-pc" package that conflicts with "grub" so I can't install it?
[21:24] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: i thought my old HP was only 32-bit capable
[21:25] <Sverd_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/NZcfpByf
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> Rehan: just a friendly fyi
[21:25] <R3dy> anyone experiance any wacky USB issues in 11.04?
[21:25] <Under97> bye
[21:25] <yehudah_> is anyone going to answer my question
[21:25] <Rehan> ActionParsnip: thanks, appreciate it
[21:25] <ray24> DaGeek247, I thought so too, however, it did not work
[21:25] <R3dy> Just asking because I'm having issuse connecting mobile devices via usb
[21:25] <Rehan> whats your question yehudah_
[21:26] <yehudah_> rehan: how can you start acpi after booting up
[21:26] <DaGeek247> ry24, running the app as root failed?
[21:26] <DaGeek247> erm ray24
[21:26] <Rehan> yehudah_: oh i dont know sorry
[21:26] <ner0x> It's almost worth going to 10.04 LTS after this update. :-/
[21:26] <yehudah_> at boot, acpi=off otherwise cannot boot
[21:26] <yehudah_> thanks anyway
[21:26] <Camer0n> hello
[21:26] <Xylch> How do I change the Unity appmenu close/min/max to my themes defaults?
[21:26] <Stereocaulon> gunther44, BTW, I thought that main() should be a void, but that can just as well be my rusty lame excuse for a knowledge of C :-P
[21:27] <Camer0n> Anyone know how I tell which is my wireless card make/model?
[21:27] <Camer0n> using the terminal possibly
[21:27] <ner0x> Is there a way to go back to X and Gnome in 11.04 ?
[21:27] <Rehan> yehudah_: maybe you could just have the command in some wakeup script?
[21:27] <Casper76> Camer0n,  just open the case and look at the network card.
[21:27] <Rehan> yehudah_: or like make a script and put it in startup applications
[21:27] <Casper76> or just look at the card
[21:27] <Casper76> should have make and model
[21:27] <Rehan> yehudah_: where it does like "sleep 60" and then turns it on
[21:27] <yehudah_> ok, how
[21:27] <Camer0n> it's a laptop
[21:27] <Camer0n> not sure how easy it would be
[21:27] <aeon-ltd> ner0x: from what?
[21:27] <Casper76> i see.
[21:28] <famthegeek> :)
[21:28] <ner0x> aeon-ltd: The default Unity and whatever server they use.
[21:28] <raven_> how to write dates/times from filename (yyyy-mm-dd - hh.mm.ss.jpg) to exif?
[21:28] <Camer0n> i googled the model, hang on
[21:28] <Ray24> DaGeek247, would you recommend that I do a reformat to evade this problem?
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> !classic
[21:28] <DaGeek247> how do i keep initramfs (bash thing) from showing up when i power down my netbook?
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> ner0x: above
[21:28] <aeon-ltd> !classic > ner0x
[21:28] <mikedddd> Hi, I am having some trouble installed FFMPEG into my command line UBUNTU host, can anyone help... it with the get apt command
[21:28] <Camer0n> it says here: http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/advent/laptop/5431.htm
[21:28] <mikedddd> ?
[21:28] <Rehan> yehudah_: i'm not sure of the details, only been using linux for a week
[21:28] <ner0x> aeon-ltd: Already did that, still is pretty buggy.
[21:28] <Camer0n> Realtek RTL8102E is thenetwork card
[21:29] <yehudah_> k
[21:29] <Camer0n> but then it says Realtek RTL8187SE Wireless LAN ** too
[21:29] <Sverd_> ActionParsnip: does it make any sense? I know its a while ago you started helping with the fullscreen flash video computer crashes, but you disconnected after you asked me for the output :)
[21:29] <DaGeek247> Ray24 it sounds like your system, andnot the drive itself. trying robly wont hurt it though.
[21:29] <Casper76> Realtek RTL8187SE Wireless LAN ** - that is the wireless card
[21:29] <Camer0n> wats the first one?
[21:29] <Camer0n> *what
[21:29] <afkaway> Secure trilevel encrypted Com/chat server
[21:29] <afkaway> > ssh -2Cc blowfish-cbc -p 20622 -l user magizian2.dyndns.org
[21:29] <afkaway> > or
[21:29] <afkaway> > ssh -2Cc blowfish-cbc -p 20622 -l user magizian.dyndns.org
[21:29] <afkaway> Password is freeaccess     /join #new      make an account
[21:29] <afkaway> Secure login Windoze Magizia HyperTurbo OS Zx86/64v2 FREE ACCESS public beta server
[21:29] <afkaway> > ssh -2Cc blowfish-cbc -p 20022 -l user magizian2.dyndns.org
[21:29] <FloodBot1> afkaway: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Sverd_: my speed sucks. Its loading...
[21:29] <ner0x> I still think the manager should say "gnome" "unity" "kde" etc.
[21:29] <Casper76> Realtek RTL8102E (Onboard) is the lan card
[21:30] <Camer0n> meaning? :/
[21:30] <Ray24> DaGeek247, Thanks for taking your time responding, I will take the necessary action.
[21:30] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: sorry about the downtime, isp playing up
[21:30] <DaGeek247> ok.
[21:30] <Casper76> its the regular ethernet card.
[21:30] <Casper76> not for wireless.
[21:30] <Casper76> the one you plug the cable into
[21:30] <Camer0n> ok thanks :)
[21:30] <Casper76> the ethernet cable
[21:30] <Sverd_> hmm..
[21:31] <DaGeek247> any one know anything about initramfs as a bash failsafe for ubuntu 10.04?
[21:31] <mikedddd> How do i update FFMPEG to the most recent... this is DRIVING ME INSANE!
[21:31] <Sverd_> anyone else that can help with flash video making my ubuntu crash in full screen? (ubuntu 11.04 64bit, nvidia adapter)
[21:31] <DaGeek247> mikedddd, try 'sudo apt-get install'
[21:32] <mikedddd> @DaGeek247 that runs an upgrade?
[21:32] <falserunes> yeah
[21:32] <DaGeek247> t updates everything.
[21:32] <DaGeek247> it*
[21:32] <Stereocaulon> gunther44, np, just trying to compile it myself, without any luck I might add. Here's a standard C helloworld as a reference:http://groups.engin.umd.umich.edu/CIS/course.des/cis400/c/hworld.html
[21:33] <mikedddd> What if i just want to update ffmpegj
[21:33] <DaGeek247> mikedddd,  if that fails remove it and install it. you houl have the new version.
[21:33] <falserunes> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[21:33] <mikedddd> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[21:33] <DaGeek247> ye
[21:33] <DaGeek247> yes
[21:33] <mikedddd> DaGeed247 Thanks!
[21:33] <mikedddd> going to do it now.
[21:33] <n-iCe> Creo que no me gustó unity
[21:33] <n-iCe> Lo siento más pesado, estoy loco ?
[21:33] <Xylch> Sverd_: Do you have flash 64 bit installed? or the default (which is 32 bit)?
[21:34] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: well, i'm actually trying to compile android, but compilation fails with the same error
[21:34] <Pici> n-iCe: Stop that.
[21:34] <ner0x> aptitude FTW
[21:34] <Sverd_> Xylch: probably default 32bit
[21:34] <n-iCe> Pici: stop what
[21:34] <DaGeek247> !es | n-iCe
[21:34] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: google suggests that gcc is broken somehow, but i've reinstalled it to no avail
[21:34] <n-iCe> thoight was in es
[21:34] <Xylch> Sverd_: Lemme get you the link to 64 bit, one moment.
[21:35] <Stereocaulon> gunther44, Ah, but Android uses Java, not C afaik. Anyway this is way offtopic for this channel. Care to join me on #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss this?
[21:35] <guntbert> gunther44: just reinstalling something will very seldom help anything in linux
[21:35] <BIGWORM> i love tylr
[21:35] <Stereocaulon> guntbert ^ is right. Configuration is key.
[21:36] <mikedddd> DaGeed247 Shows as the same version, i am going to remove then reinstall
[21:36] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: sure
[21:36] <alessandrodio> sugnaaaaaaaaaa
[21:36] <DaGeek247> mikedddd, ok
[21:36] <dd214> gunther44, are you developing an app for android?
[21:36] <bobhope> w
[21:36] <gunther44> guntbert: crap :( i thought reinstallation was the magical fix ;)
[21:36] <LjL> alessandrodio: erm?
[21:36] <alessandrodio> dove sei sei dobbiamo
[21:36] <alessandrodio> criptare
[21:36] <gunther44> dd214: well... i'd like to yeah, but atm, i'm trying to compile android itself
[21:36] <LjL> !it | alessandrodio
[21:37] <Xylch> Sverd_: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html
[21:37] <Xylch> Sverd_: It may fix the problem, but it may not.
[21:37] <Stereocaulon> !offtopic | gunther44
[21:38] <mikedddd> @DaGeek, strange thing is it says it was removed, but it is not actually removed
[21:38] <Sverd_> Xylch: thanks, I will download it and try.. do I need to remove the 32bit?
[21:38] <mikedddd> probably why the update didn't show....
[21:38] <mikedddd> hm.
[21:38] <gunther44> Stereocaulon: that's so last year - check the offtopic room!
[21:39] <DaGeek247> mikedddd, so it still runs?
[21:39] <Xylch> Sverd_: I don't believe so, I didn't when I installed it and it fixed some of my issues.
[21:39] <mikedddd> yes, even after it returned that it was succesfully removed
[21:39] <Sverd_> Xylch: ok, then I just need to google how to use the .so file and im set to go :)
[21:39] <DaGeek247> mikedddd, restart your computer then?
[21:39] <mikedddd> did
[21:39] <alessandrodio> sugnaaaaaaaaaa
[21:40] <mikedddd> strange... could it be installed a different way?  let me look.
[21:40] <mikedddd> the php.ini shows it as installed in /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg
[21:40] <Simkin> 11.04 is lame
[21:40] <DaGeek247> mikedddd,  try sudo apt-get purge mpeg
[21:40] <mikedddd> if i just delete that directory and reinstall, think that will help?
[21:40] <Simkin> how the heck do i get a "pager" with unity
[21:40] <DaGeek247> or th apps name
[21:40] <Simkin> i want my multi desktops
[21:40] <Pici> !classic | Simkin
[21:40] <Simkin> Pici: ?
[21:41] <zvacet> mikedddd: how did you install that package?
[21:41] <miceiken> I need a good and simple FTP server, any suggestions?
[21:41] <Pici> Simkin: Feel free to pick Classic Ubuntu from the login screen to get the old GNOME experience that you're probably used to.
[21:41] <suigeneris> hellp
[21:41] <Rehan> fellas, is there a way to install Ubuntu to a usb flash drive and make it so that it will have the drivers to work on any computer i take it to?
[21:41] <suigeneris> hello*
[21:41] <Simkin> Pici: is ther a wa to get the best of both worlds?
[21:41] <LjL> alessandrodio: stop it
[21:41] <Simkin> or is unity doomed to fail?
[21:41] <mikedddd> i didnt it was a different admin, but id guess suda apt-get ffmpeg
[21:41] <andygraybeal> in general, after i've installed ubuntu, how do i make it so that xwindows is gone and i just have the console?
[21:41] <jibadeeha> Simkin, unity will be a success
[21:42] <Pici> ubottu: test
[21:42] <mikedddd> @DaGeed trying suda apt-get autoremove ffmpeg
[21:42] <Simkin> jibadeeha: not without a simple pager
[21:42] <Xylch> Rehan: You can throw a live CD on a USB stick.
[21:42] <Simkin> jibadeeha: and why did they take away normal panels
[21:42] <Simkin> jibadeeha: this is absolutely retarded.
[21:42] <mikedddd> looks like it si working, but i'll have to wait until it finishes.
[21:42] <jibadeeha> Simkin, the pager is simple to use
[21:42] <Simkin> jibadeeha: window maker is better
[21:42] <zvacet> mikedddd : so it is deb package not compiled
[21:42] <guntbert> Simkin: stop that ranting please
[21:42] <suigeneris> I've upgraded to natty, and I'm getting grub rescue> now. one guid on the web says to sudo grub after booting off live cd, but I've got no such command
[21:42] <Sverd_> Xylch: any idea what folder its supposed to be in?
[21:42] <suigeneris> guide*
[21:43] <Rehan> Xylch: hmm but i always have to choose the "try ubuntu" option then? i mean is there a way to install it on there but still have it be hardware agnostic
[21:43] <Diverdude> To this day i still do not understand why the clipboard in ubuntu has not been fixed yet. When i copy something from a program or window or whatever it goes to the clipboard-> good. But when i close the program or window....my copy is ALSO deleted from the clipboard...this is something which should have been fixed in alpha version 0.0.1.....but in ubuntu 11.04 it still exists. I am baffled!
[21:43] <mikedddd> i believe the initial repo was pointing to deb packages.
[21:43] <jibadeeha> Simkin, i loved windowmaker about ten years ago, but things move on and it is no longer viable as a desktop replacement given it is a window manager
[21:43] <mikedddd> sort of new to this..
[21:43] <zvacet> mikedddd:  try with sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq <package name>
[21:43] <suigeneris> help?
[21:43] <mikedddd> zvacet well, autoremove is working onw, will try that next.
[21:44] <Jordan_U> Rehan: A normal install is hardware agnostic unless you install proprietary drivers.
[21:44] <Xylch> Rehan: I don't think that is possible, but I can't be sure, there is a way to save settings between live cd sessions when using a USB stick, you would have to research it tho.
[21:45] <Jordan_U> Rehan: If there is enough space just do a normal install to the USB as you would to an internal drive.
[21:45] <rezzy_> Could somebody help me with a sound problem? (PM preferred)
[21:45] <Rehan> Jordan_U: oh wow ok i didn't know that. very cool. so if i do install proprietary drivers and then use it on a computer where the proprietary drivers aren't needed, will it work? Or say i go from a system that doesn't need pro drivers to a system that does?
[21:45] <Rehan> Jordan_U: yea i have 16gb on the pen drive
[21:46] <DaGeek247> how do i keep bash from popping up on my netbook everytime i boot it up? it eventually goes to ubuntu, but it takes forever.
[21:46] <Xylch> Sverd_: It depends on the browser you are using, just look it up on google, <browser> plugin location
[21:46] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Then definitely go with a normal install, any other option would just lead to headache down the road.
[21:46] <mikedddd> @zvacet trying now.
[21:46] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thank you, could I PM you?
[21:47] <jibadeeha> Simkin, just remember how many people hated Windows XP when it came out, and then how much they wanted Windows 7 to be XP when it came out
[21:47] <DaGeek247> surely in the 1802 people there is someone who knows about this?
[21:47] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Yes, but I prefer to keep support discussion in-channel.
[21:47] <Sverd_> Xylch: I did a locate :)
[21:47] <Rehan> oh ok
[21:47] <suigeneris> I've upgraded to natty, and I'm getting grub rescue> now. one guide on the web says to sudo grub after booting off live cd, but I've got no such command
[21:47] <Simkin> jibadeeha: why
[21:47] <Simkin> jibadeeha: that is totally irrelevent.
[21:47] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | suigeneris
[21:47] <rezzy_> Somebody with pulseaudio/alsa/sound expertise, please send me a PM: I need your help!
[21:47] <jibadeeha> Simkin, explain how it is irrelevent
[21:48] <Simkin> windows xp was a minor change on a proven user interface.
[21:48] <jibadeeha> Simkin, hardly
[21:48] <botcity> !here | rezzy_
[21:48] <Pici> !ot
[21:48] <Simkin> unity is a whole new user interface
[21:48] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Follow the first guide linked there and when you are back in your booted system run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and select all drives (but no partitions) as install devices for grub.
[21:48] <Rehan> Jordan_U: i'm in an ubuntu install right now, have my 16GB pen drive, and the ISO file. How can I install to my usb drive. Making a startup disk is different, I imagine.
[21:48] <Simkin> jibadeeha: whatever, the winxp interface is win95's interface
[21:49] <jibadeeha> Simkin, winxp is not win95's interface
[21:49] <Simkin> jibadeeha: you know it, i know it, we allk now it. and it's also totally unimportant because MS had the power to shove things down people's throats, ubuntu does not.
[21:49] <zvacet> jibadeeha: because this is support channel you can discus abiut ubuntu on #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:49] <Simkin> jibadeeha: it is too.
[21:49] <Simkin> jibadeeha: start menu, desktop. basics. it's all there.
[21:49] <rezzy_> Description of my problem: I can hear sound through my speakers (rear green output) but not through my headphones (front green output).
[21:49] <uabn93> Is there an amd card that is fully compatible with linux? Or am I better off getting Nvidia?
[21:49] <jibadeeha> Simkin, it isn't so .. anyway offtopic as mentioned by zvacet so best end it here
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Rehan: The easiest thing to do is to burn the iso to a CD or put the installer on a *different* USB drive with startup disk creator.
[21:50] <Simkin> jibadeeha: who decided to go the unity route?
[21:50] <Simkin> i want to talk to them.
[21:50] <DaGeek247> uabn93, nvidi prvides linux driers for it cards.
[21:50] <DaGeek247> nvidia
[21:50] <jibadeeha> Simkin, don't ask me gov
[21:50] <Rehan> Jordan_U: i see. no way to "run" the ISO from my current install?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Only using a virtual machine.
[21:51] <Rehan> Jordan_U: ok, thank you
[21:51] <guntbert> this is a test question - persons should ignore it. question?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Rehan: How much RAM do you have?
[21:51] <Rehan> Jordan_U: 6GB
[21:51] <kingofswords> hi why does ubuntu give false readings of my graphics card ram?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Rehan: What is the output of "kvm-ok"?
[21:52] <Simkin> so how does the pager work in "unity" ?
[21:52] <Rehan> Jordan_U: not installed
[21:52] <Rehan> Jordan_U: should i install it?
[21:52] <Simkin> i can move things to other work spaces, but i don't know how to switch work spaces
[21:52] <uabn93> I heard people say that they have their radeon cards running fine in linux. Is it recommended to get ATI?
[21:52] <suigeneris> I've upgraded to natty, and I'm getting grub rescue> now. one guide on the web says to sudo grub after booting off live cd, but I've got no such command
[21:52] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Yes.
[21:53] <Simkin> uabn93: some people recommend ati, they are jerks.
[21:53] <mikedddd> @zvacet Not working
[21:53] <Simkin> uabn93: for linux, nvidia is the only good solution (with closed source drivers)
[21:53] <Jordan_U> suigeneris: Did you see my responses?
[21:53] <mikedddd> i think it was installed via aptitude
[21:53] <Lillymon> Hi, I've got an Ubuntu system with 512MB RAM here. What happens if I upgrade to 11.04 on this system? Will Unity be enabled by default, and if so what happens when using Unity on a system below the minimum requirements?
[21:53] <Simkin> uabn93: the open source drivers just aren't there yet.
[21:53] <jibadeeha> uabn93, works fine with my Intel G945
[21:53] <mikedddd> @zvacet May explain the Debian packs.
[21:53] <Rehan> Jordan_U: Your CPU supports KVM extensions. KVM (vmx) is disabled by your BIOS.
[21:54] <suigeneris> Jordan_U: sorry, just saw it
[21:54] <Casper76> Lillymon,  look into lubuntu for that system with 512mb.
[21:54] <Rehan> Jordan_U: i know where to turn it on in my bios though
[21:54] <zvacet> mikedddd: can you find that package in synaptic if you can try to remove it from there
[21:54] <Casper76> its a lightweight alternative.
[21:54] <Jordan_U> Rehan: If you can enable vmx in your BIOS then you can fairly easily do the install within kvm.
[21:54] <mikedddd> @zvacet how do i access synaptic, i only have command access
[21:54] <JamezQ11> How can I view data going through my ad-hoc network?
[21:55] <Casper76> honestly, i tried running ubuntu 11.04 on my p4 3.0g 1.2g of ram, and it ran TERRIBLE
[21:55] <miceiken> Problem: I just installed mysql-server and when I try to do 'mysql -u root' I get "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[21:55] <Rehan> Jordan_U: very helpful. thank you. once i enable it in my BIOS what would I do? Is it a gui app?
[21:55] <Casper76> lubuntu runs like a deram.
[21:55] <Simkin> Casper76: i have it on two p4's right now, i agree, it is slower.
[21:55] <Lillymon> Casper76: When I saw the system requirements, the first thing I did was tweet about considering a switch to Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[21:55] <Chipzzz> mikeddd: gksudo synaptic
[21:55] <Simkin> Casper76: disable all the eye candy and it's "bearable"
[21:55] <Lillymon> How easy is switching from Ubuntu to Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[21:55] <jibadeeha> Casper76, must be hardware related as it runs like a dream on my netbook that uses an low powered Intel Atom N270 with 2GB of RAM
[21:55] <twilno> Trubuntu
[21:55] <uabn93> Simkin: Ahh. So I guess my future plans are to mix a phenom II with Nvidia. Is this a good mix? I mean, is it likely that I will run into some issues?
[21:56] <zvacet> mikedddd: didn´t knmow that sorry I don´t know how to help you
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Rehan: No, no GUI (that I know of) for crazy things like this :)
[21:56] <twilno> ubuntu is awesome
[21:56] <uabn93> For a new rig.
[21:56] <Simkin> uabn93: i have that setup right now, works great
[21:56] <Casper76> jibadeeha,  maybe.
[21:56] <Simkin> uabn93: six cores amd process + nvidia viid card. it's great :)
[21:56] <mikedddd> ah... thnaks.....
[21:56] <jibadeeha> Casper76, what video card do you have
[21:56] <uabn93> :)
[21:56] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thats ok, I can do stuff on CLI with some instruction. Would i basically be mounting the ISO to cdrom or something?
[21:56] <Xylch> How do I change the Unity appmenu close/min/max to my themes default?
[21:56] <Casper76> Simkin,  Yeah,  it was bearable but still slow.
[21:57] <botcity> rezzy_,  which soundcard have you?
[21:57] <Simkin> Casper76: i think we're asking too much of our p4's :)
[21:57] <Casper76> jibadeeha,  integrated intel chipset, cant think of the exact model off hand
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Basically, make *absolutely sure* that the USB drive is not mounted. Make *absolutely sure* you know the correct device name for your USB drive (/dev/sdX, and you want the whole drive, *not* a partition like /dev/sda1).
[21:57] <rezzy_> botcity: VIA VT2020
[21:57] <zvacet> mikedddd:  try with apt-cache show <packagename> to see is it installed
[21:58] <Rehan> Jordan_U: ok, i can do that part with fdisk -l
[21:58] <uabn93> Simkin: What kind of video card are ya using?
[21:58] <rezzy_> botcity: Integrated chip on the ASUS Crosshair IV Formula mobo
[21:58] <guntbert> LjL: pm?
[21:58] <jelg> Just installed Natty (on Dell Dimension 9150 with NVidia graphics) - does not work - the unity UI comes up but accept no input
[21:58] <jelg> only works in "safe mode" it appears
[21:58] <jelg> not even in "classical mode" etc
[21:58] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Then run "gksudo kvm /dev/sdX -cdrom /path/to/ubuntu.iso -boot d -m 2G".
[21:58] <Stereocaulon> !es | n-iCe,
[21:58] <Simkin> uabn93: nvidia gts 250
[21:58] <Casper76> jibadeeha,  it ran terrible though. Even with classic mode withno effects!
[21:58] <LjL> guntbert: anytime
[21:58] <mikedddd> @zvacet it shows
[21:58] <Casper76> but, lubuntu has saved me. I love it.
[21:59] <Simkin> so how do we change workspaces in unity!?
[21:59] <Rehan> Jordan_U: very cool. :)
[21:59] <jibadeeha> Simkin, click on the workspaces icon
[21:59] <Casper76> Ubuntu was 90% of the time using 100% cpu
[21:59] <mikedddd> @zvacet can it be native to Lucid?
[21:59] <vorlov> can someone help me please with ubuntu ami on amazon ec2
[21:59] <vorlov> ?
[21:59] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thank you again for all of your help. Going to try this out :)
[21:59] <Jordan_U> Rehan: It should bring up a window where you will see the LiveCD start booting. Before you install confirm that the drive you see in the virtual machine looks like the right drive and make *absolutely sure* that the USB drive is not mounted at any point while kvm is running.
[21:59] <jibadeeha> Simkin, it is an icon with a grid and when you hover your mouse over it it says Workspace Switcher
[22:00] <Simkin> jibadeeha: doesn't exist
[22:00] <Rehan> Jordan_U: will do
[22:00] <Simkin> but i found the kb short cut ctrl-alt-right and ctrl-alt-left
[22:00] <Simkin> jibadeeha: where is this mysterious icon?
[22:00] <keito> is there a command to open the gnome2 menu, that I can then assign to a screen edge?
[22:00] <Rehan> whats the -m 2G flag mean Jordan_U ?
[22:00] <pladijs> Running ubuntu 11.04. My system automatically logs into xfce on VT7. I'd like to automatically open a session on VT8 in parallel. What config files should i look at?
[22:00] <zvacet> mikedddd: I´m sorry didn´t understand you
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Getting any device name wrong could have severe consequences. If this ends up killing your cat it's not my fault :)
[22:00] <jibadeeha> Simkin, on mine it is the third one from the bottom
[22:00] <Simkin> jibadeeha: bottom of what
[22:01] <mikedddd> @zvacet can it be native to Ubuntu 10.04.1
[22:01] <Casper76> test
[22:01] <jibadeeha> Simkin, unity dockbar or whatever they call it
[22:01] <Simkin> jibadeeha: ok, now i see it
[22:01] <keito> I know alt+f1 opens the menu, but I still have no idea how to execute the same action via a single command
[22:01] <Simkin> jibadeeha: this is retarded.
[22:01] <zvacet> mikedddd: sudo dpkg --purge <packagename>
[22:01] <Rehan> Jordan_U: oh no worries, i'm a n00b to linux but not a n00b to doing due diligence when messing around on computers :P
[22:01] <jibadeeha> Simkin, howcome?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Give the virtual machine 2 GiB of RAM rather than the default (I think 512 MiB).
[22:01] <Casper76> .
[22:01] <Simkin> jibadeeha: it's not even on the screen all the time, it doesn't have a preview
[22:02] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thanks again, will be back in a bit!
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Rehan: You're welcome.
[22:02] <vorlov> anyone?
[22:02] <jibadeeha> Simkin, yeah i miss the preview - just noticed that, so perhaps i didn't miss it that much
[22:02] <mikedddd> @zvacet hm... removing request to remove ffmpeg which isn't installed
[22:02] <vorlov> experience with aws?
[22:02] <mikedddd> but apt show ffmpeg shows me the package
[22:02] <Pici> vorlov: #ubuntu-server and/or #ubuntu-cloud would be better places to ask.
[22:02] <uabn93> Simkin: Btw, have you ever tried Dolphin Emu on your setup?
[22:03] <vorlov> Pici:  thank u  much!!
[22:03] <zvacet> mikedddd:  try  updatedb
[22:03] <jibadeeha> Simkin, it is easier to use though by clicking on it and moving windows between desktops rather than working with a tiny preview pager as was the case in 10.10
[22:03] <Braiam> zvacet: it'll take a while, so wait
[22:03] <miceiken> Problem: I just installed mysql-server and when I try to do 'mysql -u root' I get "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[22:04] <Osmodivs> is there a way to copy-paste text o Xchat?
[22:04] <zvacet> Braiam: yes,I know but maybe updating data base solve question
[22:04] <usr13> Osmodivs: Sure
[22:04] <Guybrush88> osmodivs, ctrl+c to copy and crtl+v to paste
[22:05] <pattysmatty> how can i get into my routers interface?
[22:05] <Osmodivs> Guybrush88> osmodivs, ctrl+c to copy and crtl+v to paste
[22:05] <usr13> pattysmatty: go to it's IP
[22:05] <pattysmatty> how do i figure that out?
[22:05] <Osmodivs> Guybrush88, thx
[22:05] <Stereocaulon> pattysmatty, RTFM
[22:05] <usr13> pattysmatty: They usually all have web based interface
[22:05] <usr13> pattysmatty: route -n
[22:05] <jelg> Is there a known problem with NVidia drivers for Natty?
[22:05] <BrainVirus> pattysmatty:  what is the brand
[22:05] <Guybrush88> osmodivs, you're welcome
[22:05] <twilno> ghostOS
[22:06] <zvacet> !language | Stereocaulon
[22:06] <usr13> pattysmatty: Open a terminal and type  route -n   hit enter.
[22:06] <pattysmatty> usr13, thanks
[22:06] <Stereocaulon> zvacet, Read the Friendly Manual, what's shocking about that? ;-)
[22:06] <suigeneris> !grub2
[22:06] <takeshi> guys, gnome 3 depends of unity? or i can install it without it?
[22:06] <pattysmatty> stereocaulon, you'r enot suppose to say rtfm.... if you want to say that go to ##freebsd
[22:07] <zvacet> Stereocaulon: yes,sure  8-)
[22:07] <blackbit> takeshi I heard gnome3 + unity might cause problems
[22:07] <guntbert> !gnome3 | takeshi
[22:07] <Osmodivs> Stereocaulon, XD NOTHING!! ROTFL
[22:07] <Simkin> jibadeeha: my biggest problem with this new interface is you can't just browse all the apps
[22:07] <takeshi> then i will wait for ubuntu 11.10 :P
[22:07] <Simkin> jibadeeha: why did they take away the fold out menu!?
[22:07] <takeshi> Thanks guys
[22:08] <jibadeeha> Simkin, yeah i find myself having to depend on keyboard shortcuts and alt+f2 more often
[22:08] <Stereocaulon> pattysmatty, sorry about that. What I meant was that you can probably find it in your router's manual. Mostly a router has it's main interface page at 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.255 or 10.0.0.1
[22:08] <Simkin> jibadeeha: yes, that's how i like to work too.
[22:08] <Simkin> jibadeeha: menu is only useful when you want to "browse"
[22:08] <Simkin> jibadeeha: and now it's gone!
[22:08] <ChR0n05> so is there any way to get the menu to open in gnome2 by issuing a command?
[22:10] <ChR0n05> pattysmatty, or 192.168.0.1
[22:10] <jibadeeha> Simkin, i never really liked gnome2 menus though
[22:11] <Stereocaulon> ChR0n05, yes, that is also used widely, though I 192.168.1.1 is more common for some reason...
[22:11] <BlaDe^> my external USB hdd doesn't seem to get detected on ubuntu -- any ideas why?
[22:11] <ChR0n05> Stereocaulon, last 3 routers I've had have been .0.1
[22:11] <ChR0n05> jibadeeha, I quite like gnome2 menu
[22:11] <Simkin> jibadeeha: well it was better than what we have now.
[22:12] <Simkin> this is unusable
[22:12] <Simkin> oh well
[22:12] <ChR0n05> Simkin, agreed
[22:12] <Simkin> ChR0n05: you also feel this is a terrible move?
[22:12] <Simkin> ChR0n05: to me, it's even worse than when kde went to kde 4.x from 3.5.10
[22:13] <Simkin> and that was seriously bad!
[22:13] <ChR0n05> I don't like navigating my apps in such a way no
[22:13] <ChR0n05> I really like gnome3's indicator
[22:13] <Stereocaulon> ChR0n05, fair enough, I have configured about 12 different models, most of them aimed at home users did not use 192.168.0.1 as main address. May just be coincidence though, think nothing of it.
[22:13] <jibadeeha> Simkin, KDE 3.5.10 was sublime
[22:13] <aj00200> HaHas anyone else had a problem with LibreOffice Writer being unstable?
[22:13] <ChR0n05> I think the unity launcher should be movable and not always extend
[22:13] <Simkin> jibadeeha: kde 4.x is getting there again.. but i'm starting to doubt it will actually make it there.
[22:13] <cheapie> Is anybody here experienced with compiling software? I'm getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602991/
[22:13] <jelg> Natty on my PC does not accept any input, e.g. mouse clicks etc (the mouse cursor is there but no actions)
[22:13] <ChR0n05> Stereocaulon, yeah, depends on model.
[22:14] <kyle_> using Banshee media player, connecting to DAAP server, when i exit the DAAP record is removed and i have to add again. how do i make it stay?
[22:14] <jibadeeha> Simkin, i hope they get back on track ... another interface i really liked was Amarok 1.4 and then they ruined it with Amarok 2.0 .. not sure if that has improved, but wish they had left it alone
[22:14] <Kartagis> unity?
[22:14] <ChR0n05> Simkin, I leep trying to like kde 4.6, but it's just too messy, configurations are all over the place
[22:14] <minimec> BlaDe^: after you plugged it try 'dmesg | tail' in a console. That may give you some information.
[22:14] <buck_work> How do I disable Compiz in 11.04?
[22:14] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, does your drive show up in grep "USB" /var/log/messages
[22:14] <Osmodivs> Kardos_, unity sucks!!!
[22:15] <Kardos_> really?
[22:15] <Osmodivs> Kartagis, Unity sucks!!!
[22:15] <Kardos_> you needed to tell me that?
[22:15] <cheapie> buck_work: Log in with "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects)" or "Unity 2D"
[22:15] <Osmodivs> Kardos_, Sorry, wrong nick
[22:15]  * Kardos_ stuffs a dead hooker in Osmodivs's car
[22:15] <buck_work> Ahhhhh.
[22:15] <BlaDe^> minimec nothing in dmesg about it
[22:15] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon messages doesn't exist on natty
[22:15] <buck_work> Time for another logout then. Thanks, cheapie.
[22:15]  * ChR0n05 never gets any answers anymore
[22:16] <Kartagis> Osmodivs: what is it? apparently I don't have the hardware tu run it
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I need desperate Ubuntu help
[22:16] <Kartagis> ask?
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I'm having some severe video driver issues
[22:16] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, in that case my knowledge is outdated. Does it show up in lsusb?
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I installed a driver for my ATI card last night via command line
[22:16] <Kartagis> !unity
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> And, being a noob
[22:16] <Osmodivs> Kartagis, I dunno, What happen? I just got here, tell me your problem
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> I want to know how to remove it
[22:16] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: What's wrong?
[22:16] <TheBritishEditor> As it broke EVERYTHING
[22:17] <ray24> I just reformatted my ubuntu and  still cannot access files on my secondary hd
[22:17] <Stereocaulon> !enter | TheBritishEditor,
[22:17] <andrewsmith1986> Ubuntu on mac == trouble. :/
[22:17] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: Is it a Debian package?
[22:17] <minimec> BlaDe^: if it is somehow recognized it should give you the /dev/sdX device. Is it possible to have external power for that hdd. Try that too.
[22:17] <swazzy> can some one help me i have no border to close or minimize can some one help me fix it i have ubuntu 11.04 unity
[22:17] <Osmodivs> ¡alsa
[22:17] <TheBritishEditor> I'll remember to do that, sorry.
[22:17] <Kartagis> Osmodivs: I just upgraded to natty and when I rebooted, I got a message saying I don't have the hardware tu run unity
[22:17] <A-KO^> Greetings: for some reason PHP isn't updating on lucid lynx though I'm sure there's a newer version of PHP than 5.3.2 in the distro, how can I check for this?
[22:17] <TheBritishEditor> It's a terrible habit of mine
[22:17] <aj00200> Has anyone else had a problem with LibreOffice Writer being unstable? Possibly with OpenJDK? I'm wondering if it is my setup or an overall problem.
[22:17] <LjL> !info php5 | A-KO^
[22:18] <bikcmp> Hi all, i'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto and getting a quite odd error: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfp43LDkTX006283 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=127): No such file or directory
[22:18] <LjL> A-KO^: you're right, there is 5.3.5. maybe you put it on hold for some reason and forgot?
[22:18] <bikcmp> (when I telnet to localhost/25)
[22:18] <BlaDe^> minimec nope its a passport drive, completely usb powered
[22:18] <A-KO^> LjL: nope, but how would I check that?.
[22:18] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: It's OK, as long as you try to remember not to... Now, as for that video driver, do you know if it was a Debian package (.deb file)?
[22:19] <LjL> A-KO^: tell me the output of dpkg -l php5 please
[22:19] <BlaDe^> minimec /dev/sda, sda1, sda2 and sda5 exist
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> I don't know if it is or not
[22:19] <Kartagis> bikcmp: uid 0 and gid 127 can't write to that directory
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> I don't think it is.
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> AH THERE I WENT AGAIN
[22:19] <alanonymous> is gnome3 really not customizable?  For instance, moving launcher panel, allowing multiple instances of something like chrome to be launched from launcher, etc?
[22:19] <A-KO^> Name php5 Version 5.3.2-1ubuntu4 Description server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language
[22:19] <TheBritishEditor> I downloaded it as a .run file, made it an executable, installed it, and then everythings broken <_<
[22:19] <LjL> TheBritishEditor: that's a recipe for trouble :\
[22:19] <Osmodivs> Kartagis, That's a new one.
[22:20] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: Well, that's not good...
[22:20] <minimec> BlaDe^: that is probably your internal harddrive. It may be 'sdb' ...
[22:20] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, This only shows that the external HDD is not recognized aas an external HDD, but does it show up in the list of usb devices or not?
[22:20] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: I'll go do a bit of research and bet back to you.
[22:20] <TheBritishEditor> I'm only a few days into Ubuntu, a fresh install isn't out of the question, but I've had so much flipping trouble with my graphics that I might just switch distros
[22:20] <Casper76> what graphics card?
[22:20] <TheBritishEditor> Or go back to my cold, lonely Windows 7 installation who hides at the bottom of GRUB
[22:20] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon how do I get a list of usb devices?
[22:21] <bencc> how do I clear a file (nginx error.log file) ?
[22:21] <ChR0n05> TheBritishEditor, did you try installing the driver from the repos?
[22:21] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, try lsusb
[22:21] <BlaDe^> did that, only shows 4 hubs
[22:21] <TheBritishEditor> ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4870]
[22:21] <BlaDe^> my drive lights up so it definitely has power
[22:21] <BlaDe^> and it works on windows
[22:21] <minimec> BlaDe^: External dardrives should be recognized without problem ... Should be recognized as mass storage device.
[22:21] <TheBritishEditor> I tried the driver recommended to me from the driver manager
[22:21] <ChR0n05> bencc, overwrite it?
[22:21] <LjL> A-KO^: err, i needed the first two letters at the beginning of the line
[22:21] <BlaDe^> minimec it used to work on 10.04
[22:21] <TheBritishEditor> But it still breaks everything
[22:22] <ChR0n05> TheBritishEditor, by break what do you mean, what exactly happens?
[22:22] <zvacet> TheBritishEditor: wait to see if someone help you removing it and after that try to install from system>additional drivers
[22:22] <Osmodivs> ¡drivers
[22:22] <Osmodivs> :(
[22:22] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, that's odd indeed. Did you already try a different port? Some ports might be able to provide more power than others. If in doubt use a port on the back, not the front.
[22:22] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: I found some instructions that might help. The first step is to run sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[22:22] <bencc> ChR0n05: I tried "sudo cat /dev/null > /usr/local/nginx/logs/error.log" but I'm getting "Permission Denied"
[22:22] <alanonymous> can someone explain to me how to move the launcher panel to the bottom of the screen in gnome 3?
[22:22] <TheBritishEditor> zvacet, I already tried to do it with that. Also, it breaks as in I can't use dual moniters, can't play any game, can't do anything graphical
[22:22] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's a laptop, they're all on the side
[22:23] <cheapie> Osmodivs: Did you mean !drivers?
[22:23] <s3r3n1t7> bencc, the cat is run as root, the pipe however is run as your user
[22:23] <ChR0n05> bencc, maybe nginx has a lock on it?  I'm not that familiar with it
[22:23] <zvacet> TheBritishEditor: now I see your above post sorry for been late
[22:23] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: Did you run that command that I told you to yet?
[22:24] <TheBritishEditor> Ok, I ran that command
[22:24] <bencc> s3r3n1t7: do I need two sudo?
[22:24] <Osmodivs> cheapie,  Yeah.
[22:24] <ChR0n05> bencc, try switching to root
[22:24] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: OK. Please wait a second.
[22:24] <s3r3n1t7> bencc, sudo -i to create a root shell, execute the command without sudo, then logout of the shell again
[22:24] <TheBritishEditor> Sure, take your time
[22:24] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, does a normal USB pen drive get detected, or another USB gizmo?
[22:24] <ChR0n05> s3r3n1t7, or sudo su ?
[22:25] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon usb mouse works
[22:25] <s3r3n1t7> ChR0n05, no, that doesn't setup his env correctly. -i makes sure it's done properly, check the sudo guides for that
[22:25] <minimec> BlaDe^: I would do a complete shutdown, unplug that harddisk, do a clean boot and try again without having other USB devices connected.
[22:25] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, so we can rule out an unsupported chipset then :-)
[22:25] <ChR0n05> s3r3n1t7, so what does sudo su do then?  I've used that to switch to root before
[22:25] <BlaDe^> minimec it's a fresh install and has been rebooted once already
[22:26] <s3r3n1t7> ChR0n05, it also creates a root shell, but it doesn't do any sort of checking and it can break your enviroment for using sudo with other programs.
[22:26] <zvacet> ChR0n05 : sudo -i if you want to switch to root
[22:26] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: OK. Please run the four commands specified here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/602997/
[22:26] <ChR0n05> s3r3n1t7, good to know
[22:26] <minimec> BlaDe^: then again dmesg or dmesg |tail should give you some info aobut the device, after you plugged it.
[22:26] <Angelic> I keep getting my wireless networks greyed out
[22:26] <ChR0n05> zvacet, cheers ;)
[22:26] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, if what minimec says works, you might have a power issue when it comes to your USB ports.
[22:27] <Angelic> I can't connect to wireless for some reason -- however it shows the wireless networks but the wireless networks that I want to connect to are grayed.
[22:27] <BlaDe^> dmesg | tail doesn't show anything
[22:27] <zvacet> ChR0n05:  :)
[22:27] <BlaDe^> I don't think it's a power issue, it works on windows... on the same laptop..
[22:27] <BlaDe^> *** dmesg | tail shows stuff about wlan but nothing when hdd is plugged/unplugged
[22:27] <ChR0n05> when would one want to use sudo su then?
[22:27] <jrib> ChR0n05: never
[22:27] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, with both devices attached? Hmm...
[22:27] <TheBritishEditor> cheapie: I'm getting "No such file or directory" with the first command
[22:28] <minimec> Stereocaulon: BlaDe^: That's what I was thinking too... --> power
[22:28] <ChR0n05> jrib, why is it available then?
[22:28] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: That's OK. Just keep going with the others. Ignore any errors.
[22:28] <ChR0n05> jrib, why not remove it as an option?
[22:28] <jrib> ChR0n05: what do you mean by "available"?  jumping off bridges is available too...
[22:28] <s3r3n1t7> ChR0n05, sudo su is not using an option. It's a program you're passing to sudo
[22:28] <ChR0n05> jrib, i mean why does it do anything, there is obviously a reason for it
[22:29] <jrib> ChR0n05: sudo runs programs.  su is a program
[22:29] <jrib> ChR0n05: that doesn't mean it's a good idea to run it
[22:29] <ChR0n05> yeah, fair enough, just curious
[22:29] <Chipzzz> chR0n05: seems like sudo su is not an appropriate topic of conversation here
[22:29] <ChR0n05> Chipzzz, well we kind of arrived here, so now I'm curious
[22:30] <jrib> ChR0n05: to properly obtain a root shell you should use « sudo -i »
[22:30] <cheapie> ChR0n05: It's like duct tape being able to hold things together. It just does that, it wasn't programmed to.
[22:30] <ChR0n05> jrib, yeah that has been advised
[22:30] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, try to see if the BIOS/(U)EFI detects your HDD as such, when you boot with both mouse and hdd attached.
[22:30]  * ChR0n05 would like to clarify, he doesn't need to use sudo su and hasn't done so
[22:30] <Chipzzz> Chr0n05: I arrived at the same conclusion by the same method ;)
[22:30] <cheapie> I wonder what's taking TheBritishEditor so long...
[22:30] <iceroot> ChR0n05: you can use cat foo | grep bar   too  its available but stupid
[22:30] <minimec> BlaDe^: Do you have a powerd USB hub that you could connect between the HDD and the laptop? THat might also help.
[22:31] <BlaDe^> minimec nope
[22:31] <kesi> hi all, I'm trying to figure out why my cpu is at 100% for the last hour.  Xorg is using 44% and vino server is using 25% and I don't know why
[22:31] <TheBritishEditor> cheapie: Got errors on every single one of those commands.
[22:31] <BlaDe^> but it works on windows so it can't be a power issue, can it?
[22:31] <ChR0n05> iceroot, I've seen tutorials from years ago that recommended using sudo su
[22:31] <cheapie> TheBritishEditor: That's OK. Try rebooting and see if your issues go away.
[22:31] <iceroot> ChR0n05: sudo su is the wrong way
[22:31] <belak> Is there a way to remove memtest and the recovery kernel from the boot menu?
[22:31] <TheBritishEditor> cheapie: Alright.
[22:31] <ChR0n05> iceroot, those tutorials were probably wrong
[22:31] <iceroot> ChR0n05: doesnt matter if some "noob" peolpe suggest sudo su
[22:32] <ChR0n05> i've seen lots of tutorials use sudo gedit instead of gksudo gedit too
[22:32] <iceroot> ChR0n05: i have seen tutorial using cat foo | grep bar too
[22:32] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, actually it can still be a power issue, some power management works better on Windows than Linux, if your chipset is only partially supported. If you have an Intel chipset, you should be allright though,
[22:32] <ChR0n05> iceroot, lol
[22:32] <iceroot> ChR0n05: real tutorials suggest sudo vim instead of sudo/gksudo gedit :)
[22:32] <jmrkill3rgh0st> hi
[22:32] <BlaDe^> it's an amd chipset, Stereocaulon
[22:32] <bikcmp> Kartagis: 21:19:15  < Kartagis> bikcmp: uid 0 and gid 127 can't write to that directory
[22:32] <bikcmp> Kartagis: how can I fix that?
[22:32] <ChR0n05> iceroot, no emacs
[22:33] <zvacet> ChR0n05:  read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:33]  * ChR0n05 ducks for cover
[22:33] <cheapie> iceroot: I personally prefer nano, but whatever...
[22:33] <belak> Let's not start an editor war...
[22:33] <belak> cheapie: yeah, especially since nano actually has syntax hilighting
[22:33] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, AMD is quite general as well, but if it's a really new latop, well...
[22:33] <iceroot> ChR0n05: but back to topic, sudo su is wrong because its setting the environment wrong
[22:33] <ChR0n05> cheapie, yeah, I use nano when staying within the confines of a terminal
[22:33] <ChR0n05> iceroot, yeah, I know that much, I mean to learn why it is wrong
[22:33] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, latop => la>p<top
[22:34] <cheapie> belak: I just like how much easier nano is to use. I have never managed to figure out vim.
[22:34] <ChR0n05> zvacet has psoted a link for me
[22:34] <ChR0n05> so, anyone know how to open gnome2 menu via a single command?
[22:34] <belak> cheapie: personally I like vim. It's amazing, but the learning curve sucks.
[22:34] <swazzy> plus i can't move my windows
[22:34] <gkx> Hi there. I'm using NVidia on Natty Narwhal, and the world appears to be crashing down on me. Can someone help?
[22:34] <RavenHursT> Say I wanted to run a command at the end of the boot sequence on my ubuntu server.. what file would I put that in?
[22:35] <minimec> BlaDe^: I would do tests like that. I don't see any reason for that HDD not to work with a standard ubuntu install. It should be recognized as simple 'mass storage device'. Only thing I see is a 'power' problem. In that case dmesg may not see the device. In all other cases, the system should see the device and give you some info with 'dmesg | tail' after you plugged the HDD.
[22:35] <Stereocaulon> cheapie, just remember that nano is not available by default on all *nix systems, vi is, to my knowledge.
[22:35] <belak> cheapie: http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg
[22:35] <RavenHursT> Like.. remember back in the days of AUTOEXEC.BAT?
[22:35] <cheapie> belak: The only editor I use besides nano is emacs, and that's just for dunnet... Anyway, yeah, that's a little off topic...
[22:35] <Guybrush88> gkx, have you upgraded your drivers?
[22:35] <gkx> I don't know how. :) Or, at least, I tried and it didn't seem to work.
[22:35] <cheapie> gkx: What's happening, exactly?
[22:35] <AdmV0rl0n> jeez. I am so hating unity.
[22:35] <RavenHursT> what would be the "equivalent" of AUTOEXEC.BAT in Ubuntu?
[22:35] <Mitchell|2> Hey... can someone help me? Just tried installing 11.04 on my intel macbook... it froze, rebooted it... now it wont install ubuntu, and the windows partition gives a blue screen and won't boot.
[22:35] <BlaDe^> minimec ok np
[22:36] <bindi> RavenHursT: rc.local?
[22:36] <Stereocaulon> belak, lol
[22:36] <gkx> cheapie: I load Natty Narwhal off of dual boot, and it gives me a black screen
[22:36] <cheapie> !classic | AdmV0rl0n
[22:36] <cheapie> gkx: After or before you log in?
[22:36] <gkx> cheapie: I'm running failsafe graffics right now
[22:36] <gkx> Before
[22:36] <RavenHursT> bindi: ok.. let me check that out.. btw.. rc.. is that the same acronymn that's used in .bashrc?
[22:36] <ErikM_> hello everybody
[22:36] <cheapie> gkx: Are the drivers installed?
[22:37] <gkx> Which drivers?
[22:37] <Stereocaulon> Hi ErikM_ :-)
[22:37] <bindi> RavenHursT: probably, i havent bothered to look up what they even mean :p
[22:37] <cheapie> gkx: Well, does anything show up in the additional drivers window?
[22:37] <Kartagis> bikcmp: you may want to ask in #postfix or #ubuntu-server
[22:38] <gkx> cheapie: It's really hard to work with my graphics right now. Everything is in the wrong resolution, which is a graphics problem I struggled with on a regular basis on 10.10
[22:38] <ErikM_> does any one know any workaround for the nvidia driver issue being installed but not in use? :)
[22:38] <gkx> cheapie: So, to answer your question, I can't quite access that
[22:38] <tenochslb> I am hating banshee, any idea how to make i tunes podcasts work?
[22:38] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, did you check under System => Administration => Extra drivers?
[22:39] <cheapie> gkx: Can you press Alt+F2 and type jockey-gtk, and press enter?
[22:39] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: jepp... 173 installed and not in use, even if I switch to the newest one... same result
[22:40] <gkx> cheapie: Did so now, it didn't appear to do anything.
[22:40] <RavenHursT> bindi: Found it.. "Run Commands" or RUNCOM... http://pastebin.com/eL4rsxvG
[22:40] <cheapie> gkx: As in nothing appeared?
[22:40] <gkx> Yes
[22:40] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, did you reboot after installing the proprietary drivers?
[22:40] <cheapie> gkx: Are you typing on the computer with the problem?
[22:40] <bindi> RavenHursT: cool :)
[22:41] <gkx> cheapie: Yes
[22:41] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon:  jepp, after every new install, no effect
[22:41] <cheapie> gkx: Do you have another computer available?
[22:41] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, which GPU do you have?
[22:41] <xangua> tenochslb: those podcast you are suscribed in itunes surely have a web, and an atom/rss feed you can suscribe to
[22:41] <gkx> cheapie: Yes.
[22:41] <lapion> how many people in here want to "sudo aptitude purge unity" ????
[22:42] <cheapie> gkx: Do you think you can go to that computer and chat from there so we can switch to text mode on this one?
[22:42] <lapion> unity is really beginng to bug me in a irky way..
[22:42] <xangua> !ot | lapion
[22:42] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: GeForce 9500GT
[22:42] <gkx> Yeah, let me just figure out how to IRC on a mac. :P Shouldn't take too long
[22:42] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, Hmm, how did you go about in installing the drivers?
[22:42] <lapion> xangua, that is totally ontopic for ubuntu..
[22:43] <cheapie> gkx: Try webchat.freenode.net
[22:43] <Jordan_U> lapion: The topic is Ubuntu *support*.
[22:43] <Pici> lapion: This is a support channel, not somewhere for complaining.
[22:43] <dfclark_> Any help on installing Java on Ubuntu 10.10?
[22:44] <gkx2> cheapie: Hurrah!
[22:44] <cheapie> gkx2: Are you on the working computer now?
[22:44] <Stereocaulon> dfclark_, What flavour of Java do you want to install?
[22:44] <dfclark_> jdk 1.6
[22:44] <dfclark_> yes
[22:44] <gkx2> cheapie: Yes
[22:44] <lapion> well how do I purge unity out of natty without uninstalling the whole ubuntu package.. or how can I modify unity to suit my own way..
[22:44] <Gyrth> the ubuntu scrolling bar has changed. i liked the hidden bar.
[22:45] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | lapion
[22:45] <lapion> that is ubuntu-desktop
[22:45] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: applications > system > additional drivers > there are 2 driver versions - 173 and version current), klicking of the one NOT activated starts the install, after installing andd verifying it being installed and activated I reboot as prompted
[22:45] <cheapie> gkx2: OK. On the broken computer, press Ctrl+Alt+F1. It should prompt you for your username and password.
[22:45] <tenochslb> xangua, yes but then what is the point of having an add a podcast button on Banshee. Plus i am trying to add the podcast to my mp3 player.
[22:46] <lapion> so if I uninstall ubuntu-desktop I should be abole to safely purge unity without par default uninstalling all other ubuntu-desktop packages ?
[22:46] <pattysmatty> when u have 400w power supply
[22:46] <pattysmatty> along with 2 dual monitors all energy efficient on 24/7
[22:46] <cheapie> gkx: I see you changed your username on me... anyway, on the broken computer, press Ctrl+Alt+F1. It should prompt you for your username and password.
[22:46] <pattysmatty> what's cost of uphold?
[22:46] <koppe> Considering upgrading to newest version of Ubuntu, but was wondering what
[22:46] <cheapie> pattysmatty: This is for the Ubuntu OS, not computer companies that make computers with it.
[22:47] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, does     gksudo /usr/bin/nvidia-settings   give an error, or does it display the nVidia control-panel?
[22:47] <koppe> 's the status with X.  Heard they considered replacing it, but really like it...
[22:47] <xangua> lapion: ubuntu-dektop is just a metapackage, will do nothing if you uninstall it
[22:47] <erik333> lapion, you can switch to ubuntu-classic in gdm as well (just log out) or install some other DE/wm such as kubuntu-desktop
[22:48] <chrometiger> ok, i downloaded 11.04  installed it, no errors that I saw and when it started to boot for the first time, as soon as it goes past Grub loader  ubuntu hangs at a black screen with blinking cursor,   what could be wrong
[22:48] <dfclark_> I downloaded the JDK package from Oracle, then followed their instructions to install.  But what env vars have to be set, and where, so that other tools, etc, can use the JDK?
[22:48] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: brings up the nvidia X server settings
[22:48] <xangua> !java
[22:48] <xangua> dfclark_: or you could have installed it from repository
[22:48] <erik333> since unity seems to be the default canonical UI from now on, it might be wise to keep it around
[22:49] <Stereocaulon> dfclark_, openjdk-6 should install just fine or are you trying to install (gasp...) Oracle JDK 1.6?
[22:49] <ChR0n05> what command shows main menu in gnome2?
[22:49] <trentg> ChR0n05, alt-f1
[22:49] <ChR0n05> trentg, terminal command ;)
[22:50] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, if that screen shows the Xserver config, the driver is installed and used. What NVIDIA Driver Version do you see? 173.[something]? or a newer version?
[22:50] <lapion> how do I get visual effects back in apearance preferences, you see I would like the old extra effects.. also I would like to know how I can save a session..
[22:50] <dfclark_> Oracle (nee Sun) JDK.  Should I use something different on Ubuntu?
[22:50] <Charismaa> how cute i get tossed into a channel automatically
[22:51] <lapion> you see it is a real pain in the ass to start all browsers all chat programs all terminal sessions along with p2p sharing programs each time..
[22:51] <teemo> im on ubuntu 11.04, im trying to find instances of the currently running apps, coz everytime i try to start skype, it says there is another instance of it running
[22:51] <lapion> takes half an hour of my time..
[22:51] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: 173.14.30 but if it is in use, why is the system so damn slow? :)
[22:51] <shcherbak> teemo: htop
[22:52] <Stereocaulon> dfclark_, I've tried to install the Oracle one, to no avail. For simple projects openjdk-6 will do just fine. For the more complex ones, especially for closed libs, Oracle JDK might indeed be required...
[22:52] <shcherbak> teemo: Or top, ps, pgrep, pstree, and some more
[22:52] <sburwood1> Someone wanna help me with a problem burning CD / DVD?
[22:52] <Aginor> !ask | sburwood1
[22:53] <dfclark_> Thank you, to all
[22:53] <lapion> Stereocaulon, you can allways install the oracle sun version by enabling restricted/non-free software
[22:53] <teemo> shcherbak, any of those GUI?
[22:53] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, I'm puzzled here. I use a nVidia 9600 LT GPU which is quite similar to your card. My displayed Version is 270.41.06
[22:54] <sburwood1> I've been trying to burn CDs, both images (Natty) and data disks.  I keep coming back with unknown errors (254, for example)
[22:54] <shcherbak> teemo: Nope, htop is very easy, but you have menu > system > Admin > System monitor (with gui)
[22:54] <consolecowboy> i need to write a script that mimicks the highlighting of the word the cursor is currently at. how could this be achieved?
[22:54] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: you are on 11.04 and the driver is working properly on your side?
[22:54] <sburwood1> the disks aren't burnt.  Why?
[22:54] <shcherbak> teemo: Are you on Unity?
[22:55] <Stereocaulon> lapion, on 10.10 that option did not work for me. I got stuck in dependency hell, in spite of the .deb package.
[22:55] <ice9> Is there anyone that is using the Iwl3945 driver with Aircrack-ng on Natty
[22:55] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: oh, looks like I am not the only one : http://askubuntu.com/questions/37084/nvidia-driver-activated-but-currently-not-in-use
[22:56] <toto654> someone use ekiga here?
[22:56] <RavenHursT> so if I wanna do a `cp -R * /tmp/somefolder` on a dir tree.. how do I modify that command so that ALL files (including files like .htaccess etc) and dirs will be copied?
[22:56] <Stereocaulon> ErikM_, yes, you are correct. The version I use is designated "Current". Mind you, I have upgraded from 10.10. Mine was no clean install.
[22:57] <Aginor> RavenHursT: cp -r <src> <target>?
[22:57] <lapion> Stereocaulon, the ubuntu software center should install it..
[22:57] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: ok, I first upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04, then because of unity installed Kubuntu on same partition freshly....
[22:57] <pasjr> Has any one been able to enable rgba true in Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity?
[22:57] <teemo> how can i rearrange things on the new ubuntu launcher sidebar
[22:58] <RavenHursT> Aginor: isn't that effectively the same thing?  `cp -R * /tmp` ?
[22:58] <lapion> Stereocaulon,  just type jdk into the search of ubuntu software center
[22:58] <Jordan_U> teemo: Click and hold the icon you want to re-arrange, then drag (after it pops off the launcher).
[22:58] <shcherbak> RavenHursT: cp -r /directory/with/dots/ /to/
[22:58] <Stereocaulon> lapion, I will once I'll need to develop another Java program ;-)
[23:00] <RavenHursT> shcherbak: but I don't want to copy the parent dir.. I want o copy it's contents.. there's no way to do that w/o first copying the dir as a whole?
[23:00] <venik212> I am having trouble with SAMBA after upgrading to 11.04
[23:00] <lapion> can anyone tell em how to enable adding and removing plugins from the unity panels ?
[23:00] <venik212> same smb.conf file
[23:00] <pasjr> ? Has any one been able to enable rgba true in Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity?  If so please IM me thank you
[23:00] <Aginor> RavenHursT: seeing your last statement
[23:00] <Stereocaulon> lapion, that is...a program that refuses to compile under openjdk. I am not exactly a big fan of Oracle, as you might have gathered.
[23:00] <Aginor> RavenHursT: cp -r .??* * <target>
[23:00] <venik212> I get error messages like: cannot retrieve sahre list form server
[23:00] <xsinick> how to make desktop icon of my favorite apps?
[23:00] <RavenHursT> Aginor.. lmtt
[23:01] <Aginor> RavenHursT: it wasn't clear that you didn't want to copy the first directory
[23:01] <Stereocaulon> lapion, If I spoke freely about that company, I would be unable to keep this channel civilised and family friendly :-P
[23:01] <lapion> Stereocaulon, simply edit the source and remove the checks for jdk version
[23:02] <Aginor> RavenHursT: lmtt?
[23:02] <RavenHursT> Aginor: Awesome!~  That worked!
[23:02] <RavenHursT> thnx
[23:02] <xsinick> how to make desktop icon of my favorite apps?
[23:02] <RavenHursT> Aginor: Let Me Try That
[23:02] <ErikM_> Stereocaulon: back in a minute, restart computer
[23:02] <Stereocaulon> lapion, I can try that next time I'll need it. Thanks again for the suggestion :-)
[23:02] <bibleboy> hello
[23:02] <RavenHursT> Aginor: So why doesn't cp confuse the second '*' with being the dest?
[23:02] <xsinick> how to make desktop icons of my favorite apps on Natty Narwhal?
[23:03] <lightbricko> Anyone knows if sugarsync or dropbox works well in Ubuntu?
[23:03] <RavenHursT> Aginor: didn't know you could just keep listing files to copy like that..
[23:03] <bibleboy> is there any way to install ubuntu on my windows xp pc without partitioning my hard drive but without internet
[23:03] <skybound> RavenHursT: you can use "shopt -s dotglob"; now globbing with "*' will include hidden files
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: pre download iso, same directory as wubi, then wubi
[23:03] <tyler_d> I have tried a few diff methods to get my tray icons back to no avail.... anyone have a solution to get apps like ekiga, davmail, amsn to show on your icontray?
[23:04] <bibleboy> thanks:-D
[23:04] <RavenHursT> skybound.. thnx.. Aginor just gave me a good command for cp: cp -r .??* * <target>
[23:04] <Froq__> Does anyone have a fix for the crappy VNC over 11.04?
[23:04] <bibleboy> will ubuntu run on 512 mb
[23:04] <consolecowboy> i'll rephrase: i need a command tool that will let me select or highlight the word a cursor is currently on, to be further processed with xsel and other tools
[23:04] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: but you will need some internet source for the iso ofcourse
[23:04] <bibleboy> wait what do you mean smae directory
[23:04] <Aginor> RavenHursT: you can, and the last one is always the target
[23:04] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: 512 is fine, though personally i'd use lubuntu, xubuntu or start from server for reducing all unneccessary 'weight'
[23:04] <Stereocaulon> !requirements | bibleboy
[23:05] <gridbag> in 10.10, how do I add something to the Addplication/Graphics Menu ?
[23:05] <aeon-ltd> bibleboy: in the same folder as the wubi installer
[23:05] <Pici> gridbag: Run alacarte, that is the menu editor application name.
[23:05] <Aginor> RavenHursT: the ?? in .??* are important, without them you'll end up having .. in the list of files to copy, and things will go poorly
[23:05] <bibleboy> i have a win 7 pc with internet but want to install it on my old win xp along with xp
[23:05] <bibleboy> ok ill try that
[23:06] <RavenHursT> Aginor: you rock.. thanks man
[23:06] <bibleboy> my iso cd has wubi on it do i need internet for that or can i just use that
[23:07] <toto654> i have no sound with ekiga....anyone use it?
[23:07] <RavenHursT> Aginor++
[23:07] <bibleboy> do  need internet to install wubi from my ubuntu cd i made from the iso
[23:08] <bibleboy> it has wubi on it
[23:08] <bibleboy> because i dont feel like having to start my live cd in persistent mode every time
[23:08] <Aginor> RavenHursT: happy to help :D
[23:09] <skybound> consolecowboy: i think you'll get more answers when you try to explain what you are trying to do; i still don't get what you are asking; cursor in any (focused) window?
[23:09] <ray24> Can you download without entering password?
[23:09] <bibleboy> my ubuntu cd has a wubi installer on it. do i need internet to use it
[23:10] <wad> Enjoying the niceness of 11.04, but I'm not getting the multiple workspaces. I've got this workspace switcher that lets me look at other desktops, but I don't know how to move windows beteen them. I miss my desktop cube....
[23:11] <bibleboy> i can switch workspaces fine
[23:11] <wad> bibleboy: How?
[23:11] <erik333> just click and drag afaik
[23:12] <consolecowboy> skybound: yes, so if i'm typing anywhere, text editor, browser, i can hit a key that will run a little script. first thing i need it to do is 'highlight' the word that has just been typed
[23:12] <bibleboy> well you may have had a problem installing ubuntu or its a bug. I am using the live cd
[23:12] <consolecowboy> i'm aiming for a text replacement tool
[23:12] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon / minimec here?
[23:12] <consolecowboy> (used snippits but can't install in 11.04)
[23:13] <BlaDe^> It says new high speed usb device using ehci_hcd and address 68
[23:13] <BlaDe^> usb-storage etc etc
[23:13] <bibleboy> can i install ubuntu using the wubi on my cd i made from the iso file off the site.
[23:13] <Froq__> Anyone know why VNC is unusable in 11.04?  It worked fine for me in 10.04
[23:13] <BlaDe^> but it doesn't show up anywhere? doesn't seem to mount
[23:13] <Tomas> hello
[23:13] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, nice...
[23:13] <xsinick> how to make desktop icons of my favorite apps on Natty Narwhal?
[23:13] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon any ideas why it isn't mounting now?
[23:13] <bibleboy> idk i am new to ubuntu 11.04 i have only used 10.10
[23:13] <BlaDe^> scsi10: usb-storage 2-2:1.0 --- but no mount
[23:13] <Tomas> would do you speak russian?
[23:14] <bibleboy> could some1 answer me
[23:14] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, well, that's a start, mounting is the next step. Please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[23:14] <Tomas> (((
[23:14] <Tomas> I must learn english(
[23:14] <bibleboy> yes u must
[23:14] <tyler_d> does anyone know how to get tray icons to show?
[23:15] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon http://pastie.org/1862149
[23:15] <Tomas> use ubuntu classic man))
[23:15] <xsinick> how to make desktop icons of my favorite apps on Natty Narwhal?
[23:15] <Tomas> would do you like 11.04 ?
[23:16] <bibleboy> hmm let me think xsinick
[23:16] <Tomas> in russia people dont like unity)) and many people back to 10.10 or 10.04
[23:16] <Glycan> Hello
[23:16] <Tomas> hello
[23:16] <Geoffrey2> is Gnome 3 even an option in Natty, or does that need to be installed manually from source?
[23:16] <BlaDe^> Tomas just use Ubuntu Classic
[23:16] <histo> Tomas: if you don't likie unity you can run classic mode rather than switching back to 10.10
[23:16] <BlaDe^> Geoffrey2 it has to be done manually
[23:17] <consolecowboy> xsinick: if the application is in the menu, you can right click and 'add this launcher to desktop'
[23:17] <Glycan> I'm trying to make an liveCD, but the save to thing doesn't work to the cd I put in.
[23:17] <consolecowboy> i think
[23:17] <histo> Geoffrey2: from ppa
[23:17] <histo> Geoffrey2: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-194085.shtml
[23:18] <bibleboy> for the live cd try just burning the ubutnu iso to a cd. thats the way i made my live cd im running right now
[23:18] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, Hmm, I see...the device gets detected, as usb-storage even, but it does not even show up on the list of all partitions (both mounted and unounted) :-S
[23:19] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, unounted => umounted
[23:19] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon so what's the next step?
[23:19] <Glycan> I can't find the cd to burn to.
[23:19] <Glycan> U doesn't see it.
[23:19] <uwex> anyone knows some good organizer/planer? not devolution
[23:19] <RavenHursT> ok.. I remember doing this somehow.. but I have a script that has a `mysql -u someuser -e 'execute this'; in it.. but I can't remember how to set up someuser to be allowed to run mysql commands w/o a password... had something to do w/ adding "NOPASSWORD' to some conf file or something.. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[23:19] <bibleboy> Can I install Ubuntu from the Wubi on my Ubuntu installation cd without using internet.
[23:19] <Geoffrey2> I'm going to spend a little more time playing with the current setup, but Natty feels like Ive gone to a completely new operating system
[23:20] <bibleboy> i know doent it feel like that. I want gnome back instead of unity.
[23:21] <histo> bibleboy: select classic from the session drop down on the login screen and you will have gnome back
[23:21] <Belial`> kaie, FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[23:21] <histo> !language | Belial`
[23:21] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, This could point to the possibility of a partition table that is somehow unreadable by your installation, though I admit that this is a long shot indeed...
[23:21] <bibleboy> can i do that from the livecd cause` thats what i use. I dont have natty installed anywhere
[23:21] <AlexGer> hallo, i'm installing "Zentyal" Ubuntu and get during the installation proces an errormessage. It's free translated from german..
[23:21] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's literally a brand new installation done about 3 hours ago
[23:22] <kaie> I really can't believe that. netbook with 10.10. it worked fine for a long time. yesterday it went to sleep. I woke it up, it came up, then it crashed. after reboot, I find that then contents of two partitions are totally corrupted. fsck.ext4 even says there is no ext4 filesystem on them
[23:22] <skybound> consolecowboy: i see; didn't know snippits, that actually worked? i don't know about any such program, sorry
[23:22] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, is the HDD encrypted in any way, like with Bitlocker or something similar?
[23:22] <konata> Hey, I'm trying out the cloud demo online
[23:23] <AlexGer> Could'nt find an installable Kernel in the APT-Sources
[23:23] <konata> Is that time remaining thing there just for looks?
[23:23] <sponzor> hi i have a "trojan.exe" and i want to see the source code of exe file.. is there any program in linux that can help me?
[23:23] <konata> It hasn't moved or changed since I logged in
[23:23] <Geoffrey2> my big issue right now is that, on my desktop with an external monitor, dmesg output is total garbage.....
[23:23] <Belial`> kaie, you still using elementary?
[23:23] <bibleboy> hmm try reinstalling ubuntu kaie. u may have 2 start using 11.04
[23:23] <kaie> bibleboy, my data partitions are gone
[23:24] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon nope it's not
[23:24] <bibleboy> um make an installation cd and repartition from the installer
[23:25] <consolecowboy> skybound: yeah, i found snippits in lifehacker, became one of my favourite apps, very simple, a little buggy, no longer developed, ruby. but couldn't install because i can't seem to upgrade rubygems. i could try harder to do this, but i figured i might try to write my own version
[23:25] <bibleboy> youll lose everything though
[23:25] <Geoffrey2> I run dmesg | more, and all I get is screen after screen of error messages
[23:26] <AlexGer> hello, i'm installing "Zentyal" Ubuntu. During the installation process i receive the following errormessage. (free translated from german..)
[23:26] <AlexGer> Could'nt find an installable Kernel in the APT-Sources
[23:26] <kaie> bibleboy, I know how to start from scratch, but I wonder if that is a known problem. I can't believe going to sleep and wakeup can delete all my partitions
[23:26] <Superstar_> How do I make the command line ssh send keep alive packets? I keep getting disconnected
[23:26] <bibleboy> probably not.
[23:26] <glycan_> Hello
[23:27] <bibleboy> U may have gotten one of the RARE linux viruses
[23:27] <Froq__> UndiFineD: so if they have been able to make the pixel changes always fit the TCP frame, why is it never refreshing as I move my mouse over the frame?
[23:27] <Froq__> Anyone know why VNC is unusable in 11.04?  It worked fine for me in 10.04
[23:27] <bibleboy> I need this ? answered now. can i install wubi from the wubi on my ubuntu 11.04 installation cd without an internet connection.
[23:29] <bibleboy> :)
[23:30] <KM0201> bibleboy: why not just properly partition your drive, and install it from a cd?
[23:30] <bibleboy> i dont want to lose windows
[23:30] <Lachezar> Hello people... I am having problems with Unity: I get many visual deffects, including stripes, white zones, etc.
[23:30] <KM0201> bibleboy: you won't lose windows if you pay attention..
[23:30] <Lachezar> My video: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[23:30] <Stereocaulon> What has taken the place of /var/log/messages in Natty? I'm trying to monitor hardware changes, like the insertion of an USB stick.
[23:31] <KM0201> bibleboy: honestly, in my experience, you run a bigger risk of something happening to windows with Wubi,l than a "normal" dual boot system
[23:31] <bibleboy> I want to do wubi so i can get rid of it easy
[23:31] <raichlea> hi all, I installed samba on natty and it wants 'the administrative password'.. it doesn't like mine and I don't know the root one.  What can I do?
[23:31] <KM0201> bibleboy: just don't say i didn't warn you.. removing wubi is often problematic.. been there.. wn't do it again, its much easier to remove a "normal" ubuntu install.
[23:31] <bibleboy> ive used wubi before so i want to use it again
[23:31] <KM0201> bibleboy: wel, good luck.
[23:32] <bibleboy> ive done it before no problem
[23:32] <KM0201> bibleboy: and i've done it multiple times, w/ several problems.. so.. i guess we just have different experiences
[23:32] <bibleboy> I use an uninstaller program to uninstall
[23:32] <skybound> consolecowboy: yes, sounds like a neat idea (reminds me of the plan9 editor/wm?); if the last-typed-word was already in the xclipboard it would be easy, getting it there seems to be the trick; you might want to try some xlib-programming related chan?
[23:32] <bibleboy> what windows did you use
[23:33] <bibleboy> well i had one problem
[23:33] <bibleboy> i didnt have enough space on my HD
[23:33] <bibleboy> but that was it
[23:33] <consolecowboy> skybound: right, thanks, i'll see what i can find
[23:33] <bibleboy> nothing other
[23:33] <bibleboy> so i guess ill just try
[23:34] <bibleboy> see ya
[23:34] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon --- it shows up in lsusb too
[23:34] <BlaDe^> Device 069: ID ....... <model/version/etc>
[23:35] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, yes, so it should, it registers even as an usb-storage device. I'm grinding my brains here why it does still not show up in sudo fdisk -l
[23:35] <BlaDe^> ill reboot and test
[23:35] <BlaDe^> all I want to do is move a file from one laptop to another
[23:35] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, don't please test the following first...
[23:36] <BlaDe^> it's gonna take 6 hours via wifi
[23:36] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's already rebooting
[23:36] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, Yes, that would be silly indeed.
[23:36] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, you are chatting on a different computer than the one you are debugging, right?
[23:37] <pooltable> hi
[23:37] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon yes
[23:37] <pooltable> is any one use ing the new unity thing?
[23:37] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it's just booted up, nothing has been plugged in yet
[23:37] <belak> Is there a way to remove memtest and the recovery kernel from the boot menu?
[23:39] <coz_> belak,  memtes can be "not shown"  from sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[23:39] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, I'm trying to compare the behaviour of a USB pen drive/ card reader to your WD Passport drive, to see what step is missing (shown in the syslog) There must be something different there, so that we can concentrate on the process that does not follow through.
[23:39] <bastidrazor> coz_: gksudo :)
[23:40] <coz_> belak,  if you open that file... near the middle of the list,, you will see several lines starting with "#Uncomment".
[23:40] <belak> Ah, ok
[23:40] <belak> Thanks!
[23:40] <coz_> belak,  read them carefully to see what options you have by Uncommenting any of the lines
[23:40] <beanstalk> How do I remove or unhold "held packages?" It's preventing me from upgrading
[23:40] <bastidrazor> !pin | beanstalk
[23:40] <bastidrazor> beanstalk: this tells how to unpin them, too
[23:40] <beanstalk> bastidrazor: thanks, I'll take a look
[23:41] <belak> I see disable_recovery bit I don't see anything for memtest
[23:42] <beanstalk> bastidrazor: except it doesn't say how to find out which packages are being held. do you know how to do that?
[23:42] <coz_> belak,   mm I thought there was one for that,, well.. probably the best thing to do is go to the #grub channel as well
[23:43] <coz_> belak,  between the two channels ,, someone should have a good solution with grub2... i am not an expert with it yet
[23:43] <belak> Ok, thanks
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> belak, in /etc/grub.d "sudo chmod -x 20_memtest86+"
[23:44] <belak> Ah, I just set 20_memtest -x
[23:44] <coz_> belak,  there is a little utility name  "grub-customizer"  I have NOT tested it at all   will try now
[23:44] <belak> ZykoticK9: nice timing. :P
[23:44] <beanstalk> How do I find out which packages on my system are being held?
[23:45] <coz_> belak,   just in case you want to test it as well    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43471/how-to-configure-the-linux-grub2-boot-menu-the-easy-way/
[23:45] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, in your /var/log/syslog, the attachment of your drive should show up right after you connect it. You can follow the running additons to syslog  with tail -f /var/log/syslog
[23:46] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, please excuse my spelling. It's all over the place: additons => additions.
[23:46] <bastidrazor> beanstalk: what makes you think packages are being held back? pinning is a manual step, it isn't something that automatically happens.
[23:47] <beanstalk> bastidrazor: I can't upgrade my system and a message pops up saying that an error is being caused likely by held packages
[23:47] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, I will be hitting the hay in about a quarter of an hour, so there is a high probability that someone else has to pick up where I left you.
[23:47] <beanstalk> I found a forum post saying that if I remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, but I don't know if that'll be bad for my system; how can I tell if the package is being used?
[23:47] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon no problem hold on while I go through that
[23:48] <belak> There's an abi change with nouveau... and there's a different package that I think needs to be installed?
[23:48] <gedO> Hi guys. I have one little problem. I'm unable to install gnome tweak tool
[23:48] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon usbcore says it registered new interface driver ums-cypress
[23:49] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon it says eery few seconds:
[23:49] <BlaDe^> reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[23:49] <BlaDe^> said that 4 times
[23:49] <BlaDe^> then, scsi 6:0:0:0 Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
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[23:50] <Topy44> hi, how can i turn off flow control for a serial port for wine? the software i am using in wine doesnt have settings for it
[23:50] <Baram> I just updated (10.04 64bit) after being gone for a while (175 updates) and I know a new version of both firefox and chrome were in there, now I cannot type Korean in either (but can in all other programs)
[23:50] <Osmodivs> Hello. Ok, so I sudo chmod in a /usr/share/amsn folder so I could drag and drop some files to /amsn/skins folder, but nowm the /usr/share/amsn folder does not have a lock icon, but inside that folder, ALL of the files have a lock icon. Is there a way to undu this?
[23:50] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon did you see that, above all the spam?
[23:50] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, That reset is not good.
[23:50] <BlaDe^> any ideas what would cause it ?
[23:51] <Osmodivs> I sudo chmod 7777
[23:51] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, my first suggestion would still be lack of power, even though Windows will be able to use it just fine.
[23:51] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon this is a different HDD now
[23:51] <BlaDe^> has its own power supply -- it's a caddy. just foudn it
[23:51] <BlaDe^> the last one is probably lack of juice as you said
[23:52] <BlaDe^> was a passport drive so entirely usb powered
[23:52] <gedO> Hi. I have problem installing gnome tweak tool
[23:52] <gedO> How I could fix this?
[23:52] <kevin_> Osmodivs, you need to use a -R to recurse subdirectories if you want everything under /amsn to take on the new properties
[23:52] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, so this output is registered with another drive ?!
[23:53] <BigMig> I just updated to Natty Narwal yest from the last version using the updater and i all i see is flashing icons and cannot do anything?
[23:53] <BigMig> can i fix somehow
[23:53] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon yeah
[23:53] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon the first one was a 250GB passport drive, nice and portable, wasn't detected AT ALL so likely power issue
[23:54] <BlaDe^> second one is a SATA caddy with its own power supply, is picked up displays in lsusb and gives those errors above.. Doesn't mount.
[23:54] <multipass_> How do i install a .bin file? I have adobe reader file for linux which is .bin
[23:54] <Osmodivs> kevin_, Like: sudo chmod 7777 -D /usr/share/amsn
[23:54] <OerHeks> gedO, gnome tweak tool for gnome 3 ? >> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeTweakTool
[23:54] <BlaDe^> multipass_ ubuntu has a pdf reader already
[23:54] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, so that external drive, having lots of power, still won't connect? OK, prepare for a simpleton question. Ready?...Did you use the same *cable* when connecting your HDD under Windows as under Natty?
[23:55] <multipass_> BlaDe^, yeah.. wish i could use it, but the work i do needs these special comment things etc
[23:55] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon heheh yeah, I only have one usb cable :)
[23:55] <sparrW> can't be the only one who's asked... How do I get a taskbar back in 11.04?
[23:55] <bastidrazor> bean_: type apt-cache policy ...the last line will say Pinned packages::     and thus list them
[23:56] <Kyle__> multipass_: are you talking about a bin and cue file?
[23:56] <Stereocaulon> multipass_, a .bin file can be executed if you give it executable rights. Before that I would *highly* recommend that you run it through file to see if it is indeed a Linux ELF binary or similar.
[23:57] <Jordan_U> multipass_: Do *not* try to install Adobe reader that way.
[23:57] <multipass_> the file is "AdbeRdr9.4.2-1_i486linux_enu.bin"
[23:57] <multipass_> ah ok, :b
[23:57] <BigMig> I updated Ubuntu using the updater from the last verision to Natty Narwal and after update all I see is flashing icons and cant do anything. I'd perfer not to have to downlaod the lice cd and reinstall that way, can anybody point me in the right direction
[23:57] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, is your mouse a plain vanilla mouse, or is it a gaming mouse which lots of thingamabobs?
[23:57] <Kyle__> multipass_: 1, you can install adobe reader through apt-get, and maybe even the software center
[23:58] <Jordan_U> multipass_: Open Ubuntu Software Center and search for Adobe Reader.
[23:58] <multipass_> yeah you are right, thanks... idk why i didnt try that first
[23:58] <Kyle__> multipass_: 2, the only reason to use adobe-reader is if you need to fill out PDF forms.
[23:58] <multipass_> Kyle__, i had trouble selecting and copying text with the default app
[23:58] <multipass_> is that possible?
[23:58] <Angelic> I can't connect to wireless for some reason -- however it shows the wireless networks but the wireless networks that I want to connect to are grayed.
[23:58] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon mouse isn't plugged in
[23:58] <BlaDe^> only used it to test the port
[23:59] <Stereocaulon> BlaDe^, You see...I'm clutching at straws here O_o
[23:59] <soreau> Guys my natty wont load ubuntu classic session. It worked the first time, but since I switched to 'ubuntu' and back to 'classic ubuntu', now all sessions load unity regardless. How can I fix it?
[23:59] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon no problem. It's getting late now, I'll copy it via wifi overnight.. 6 hours.. lol
[23:59] <Kyle__> multipass_: I don't know, that's not something I've had to do much.  You can try using pdf2text or pdftotext (both should be avialable) to get text out.
[23:59] <BlaDe^> Stereocaulon thanks a lot for your help! Appreciate it
[23:59] <silvertip257> Hello, I'm attempting to PXE boot live CDs for Ubuntu-based distros.  I have PXE (DHCP+TFTP) and NFS working.  Problem arises as NetworkManager changes the interface and disconnects the NFS share (client).  I have not yet been able to get a Fedora live CD to boot as well.