| belak | It might just be me, but I can't get the ubuntu studio install cd to work. It keeps failing on "Select and install software" | 01:09 |
|---|---|---|
| belak | s/cd/dvd/ | 01:09 |
| belak | It looks like tons and tons of errors on dependencies of pulse audio stuff | 01:11 |
| belak | Well, looks like I have a semi-working minimal install so I'm gonna install ubuntustudio-desktop and see if that works | 01:46 |
| ScottL | belak, how did you get the install disc? | 02:46 |
| ScottL | did you get it from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.04/release/ | 02:47 |
| belak | Yeah | 02:54 |
| belak | Maybe it was because I tried it with unetbootin | 02:55 |
| holstein | belak: o/ | 02:57 |
| holstein | belak: if you would | 02:57 |
| holstein | PLEASE add yourself to this bug i started... | 02:57 |
| holstein | relating to the issue you had | 02:57 |
| belak | Ah, so it wasn't just me? | 02:57 |
| holstein | nah | 02:58 |
| holstein | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/697774 | 02:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 697774 in Ubuntu Studio "cant install ubuntustudio from USB stick" [Undecided,New] | 02:58 |
| holstein | belak: theres acutally a couple things in the works | 02:58 |
| holstein | one of which | 02:58 |
| holstein | is moving to a live installer | 02:58 |
| holstein | which would solve that issue and maybe a few others | 02:58 |
| holstein | we'll see* | 02:59 |
| holstein | belak: its not just ubuntustudio | 02:59 |
| holstein | its any of the alternate installers | 02:59 |
| holstein | and there are a few workarounds | 02:59 |
| holstein | BUT, you can always just install what you want from ubuntustudio into a normal ubuntu install | 02:59 |
| holstein | !vanilla | 02:59 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 02:59 |
| belak | It worked fine for me with xubuntu | 03:01 |
| holstein | belak: actually | 03:01 |
| holstein | is that xubuntu 11.04? | 03:01 |
| holstein | are you planning on keeping XFCE ? | 03:02 |
| holstein | im asking becuase thats another one of our proposed changes | 03:02 |
| holstein | moving to XFCE | 03:02 |
| belak | Yeah, I like xfce | 03:06 |
| belak | And yes it's 11.04 | 03:07 |
| belak | They did a really good job with it, I have to say | 03:07 |
| virtu | anyone near NY or in NY City? | 03:07 |
| holstein | there are a few NY'res over in #opensourcemusicians | 03:08 |
| holstein | i go up there from time to time for gigs | 03:08 |
| holstein | but im pretty far from there | 03:08 |
| holstein | 10 hours* | 03:08 |
| virtu | in august I will be there | 03:08 |
| virtu | and I am looking forward for a nice hostel | 03:08 |
| virtu | like this one http://nylofthostel.com/english/contact_us | 03:08 |
| holstein | cool | 03:09 |
| holstein | i stay at the ASU loft | 03:09 |
| holstein | in chelsea | 03:09 |
| holstein | sometimes | 03:09 |
| holstein | i usually stay with friends though | 03:09 |
| virtu | and is it more cheaper then that hostel? | 03:09 |
| holstein | well, if you are an alumni | 03:10 |
| holstein | which i am not | 03:10 |
| holstein | but, i know a professor that hooks me up | 03:10 |
| holstein | its like $30 a night | 03:10 |
| virtu | My idea is to be very well located, because it will be just 4 days in a hurry | 03:10 |
| holstein | *bunk beds though | 03:10 |
| holstein | virtu: have you been there before? | 03:10 |
| virtu | never been there, 1st time in NY | 03:10 |
| holstein | well, 4 days is not enough ;) | 03:11 |
| holstein | just soak it in | 03:11 |
| belak | holstein: why are you looking at switching to xfce, out of curiosity? | 03:11 |
| holstein | and try to keep an eye on your wallet | 03:11 |
| holstein | i had 8 days up there | 03:11 |
| virtu | yeah... holstein I will arrive august 1st in philadelphia | 03:11 |
| holstein | when i was in that loft | 03:11 |
| virtu | then go to Orlando and Key West until 08/13 | 03:11 |
| holstein | i had a recording session that cancelled | 03:12 |
| holstein | and i ended up with lots of spare time to run around | 03:12 |
| holstein | it was nice | 03:12 |
| holstein | virtu: is there a local? | 03:12 |
| holstein | that can show you around? | 03:12 |
| holstein | you really need a local | 03:12 |
| holstein | i feel like it took me 4 or 5 trips to really feel comfortable up there | 03:12 |
| holstein | BUT, im not in a big city like that | 03:13 |
| holstein | i guess it depends on what you are used to | 03:13 |
| virtu | what you mean when you call a local | 03:13 |
| holstein | virtu: i person that lives there* | 03:14 |
| virtu | ahh no... I dont have nobody there... | 03:14 |
| holstein | maybe you can find someone | 03:14 |
| holstein | otherwise, you really just get stuck doing the touristy stuff | 03:14 |
| holstein | which is fun too though | 03:15 |
| virtu | that's one reason that I asking about that hostel link that I paste... | 03:15 |
| virtu | in google that hostel is very well rated | 03:15 |
| virtu | sent an e-mail right now, asking some informations | 03:15 |
| holstein | let me look on the map | 03:15 |
| holstein | there are places in brooklyn you might not want to be | 03:15 |
| holstein | ive stayed on the edge of redhook | 03:16 |
| holstein | and thought it was OK | 03:16 |
| holstein | but, my girlfriend didnt like it | 03:16 |
| virtu | ok... | 03:16 |
| virtu | I will travel with a couple of friends... so our worries are just with gadgets that will buy... | 03:17 |
| virtu | it must be a save hostel | 03:17 |
| virtu | maybe I will get a new mac | 03:18 |
| holstein | virtu: i looked at the map | 03:19 |
| holstein | and ive never been in that area | 03:19 |
| virtu | ok | 03:19 |
| holstein | and ive been told to avoid the area that is just north of there | 03:19 |
| holstein | but, you never know really | 03:19 |
| virtu | 1613 comments at Google and 4/5 statrs | 03:20 |
| holstein | the site looks nice | 03:20 |
| holstein | its not far from the BQE | 03:20 |
| virtu | sute... very well done | 03:20 |
| holstein | your not close to a train | 03:20 |
| holstein | but, your not too far from several different trains | 03:20 |
| holstein | which is nice | 03:21 |
| holstein | *like 6 blocks | 03:21 |
| holstein | thats not bad | 03:21 |
| virtu | sure... I was reading at google comments and a lot of persons from Europe rated nice... | 03:21 |
| holstein | i bet you can get over in manhattan in like 15 mintues or so | 03:21 |
| holstein | virtu: yeah, i wouldnt be scared of that | 03:22 |
| holstein | virtu: let me know :) | 03:22 |
| holstein | i stayed at the brooklyn motor inn | 03:22 |
| holstein | they have an hourly rate ;) | 03:23 |
| holstein | i little scary | 03:23 |
| virtu | yup | 03:23 |
| holstein | virtu: there was a free day | 03:24 |
| holstein | at the museum of modern art | 03:24 |
| holstein | you should ask about that | 03:24 |
| holstein | its in the park | 03:24 |
| holstein | thats a nice daytime thing to do | 03:24 |
| virtu | =) | 03:25 |
| virtu | ok... | 03:25 |
| virtu | hostel is 10 minutes from Union Sqaure | 03:27 |
| virtu | 15 minutes from Times Square | 03:27 |
| holstein | yeah, thats what i was thinking | 03:27 |
| holstein | is that on the L? | 03:27 |
| holstein | the grey train? | 03:27 |
| holstein | eh, you'll figure it out | 03:28 |
| holstein | its nice that you can catch several different train there though | 03:28 |
| holstein | within 6 or 8 blocks | 03:28 |
| virtu | ok... | 03:28 |
| virtu | today I start to search a cool place to stay... and this hostel seems to be nice... many comments at google | 03:29 |
| virtu | but... | 03:29 |
| virtu | I need to make a sightseeing plan | 03:29 |
| virtu | and with that plan on hand it will be easier to see if that hostel will be very well located | 03:30 |
| virtu | tomorrow I will dinner with my friends and list what we want to do there | 03:30 |
| holstein | i really enjoyed riding the train out to coney island | 03:31 |
| holstein | i started in midtown | 03:31 |
| holstein | it was a nice ride | 03:31 |
| holstein | its above ground a lot of the way | 03:31 |
| holstein | and when i got out there | 03:32 |
| holstein | i walked around a bit | 03:32 |
| holstein | you can look back across SO many blocks of brooklyn | 03:32 |
| holstein | and see straight down the street :) | 03:32 |
| holstein | thats fun | 03:32 |
| holstein | and cheap * | 03:32 |
| virtu | it seems very fun.. | 03:32 |
| virtu | one idea that I have here.. is to sell here in Brazil my old Nikon D40 camera and get a brand new Nikon 5100 | 03:33 |
| virtu | and that ride that you told seems to be very nice to catch some pictures | 03:33 |
| holstein | yeah | 03:34 |
| virtu | 245U$ for 4 nights at a mixed room | 03:37 |
| holstein | euro? | 03:38 |
| holstein | thats like $500 bucks? | 03:39 |
| holstein | US? | 03:39 |
| virtu | holstein: in that places it will be safe to get a mac mini, an ipad and other electronics and leave in a closed dock? | 03:39 |
| virtu | US | 03:39 |
| virtu | US Dolar | 03:39 |
| holstein | 245 US ? | 03:39 |
| virtu | yeah | 03:39 |
| holstein | thats a great deal | 03:39 |
| virtu | 245 US for 4 nights | 03:39 |
| virtu | ok... good to know... | 03:39 |
| holstein | virtu: closed dock? | 03:40 |
| holstein | locker? | 03:40 |
| holstein | something with a lock? | 03:40 |
| holstein | or a room? | 03:40 |
| virtu | and 345 US for 4 nights in a Private Room for 2 persons (my friends couple) | 03:40 |
| virtu | locker | 03:40 |
| virtu | forgot that world.. | 03:40 |
| virtu | a locker | 03:40 |
| holstein | virtu: and you can put a lock on it? | 03:40 |
| virtu | I guess... have to confim at hostel | 03:41 |
| holstein | i would ask | 03:41 |
| holstein | and take a lock | 03:41 |
| holstein | or get one there | 03:41 |
| virtu | http://nylofthostel.com/english/booking/faq | 03:41 |
| virtu | in USA I will get 2 new luggage (samsonite one and a high sierra duffel), so I need one or two well sized lockers to put that stuff into | 03:42 |
| belak | holstein: you mentioned switching to xfce | 04:05 |
| belak | How come? | 04:05 |
| holstein | belak: well | 04:06 |
| holstein | gnome is changing | 04:06 |
| holstein | and ubuntu is moving to unity | 04:06 |
| holstein | and we feel like those are not consistent with what studio users need | 04:07 |
| holstein | and XFCE is nice | 04:07 |
| holstein | well supported | 04:07 |
| paultag | fluxbox :) | 04:07 |
| holstein | and full featured | 04:07 |
| holstein | paultag: :) | 04:07 |
| paultag | heyya holstein | 04:07 |
| holstein | paultag: o/ | 04:07 |
| paultag | holstein: s'new my friend? | 04:07 |
| holstein | not much | 04:08 |
| holstein | working hard | 04:08 |
| paultag | good man :) | 04:08 |
| holstein | which is good | 04:08 |
| belak | How man devs are there with ubuntu-studio? | 04:08 |
| holstein | paultag: and you? | 04:08 |
| holstein | belak: its hard to say how many devs are responisible for the pacakges | 04:08 |
| holstein | but there are no specific studio devs | 04:08 |
| holstein | just us chickens :) | 04:09 |
| belak | What about the packaging? Package selection and such | 04:09 |
| paultag | holstein: well, thanks! Just finals time now at Uni | 04:09 |
| holstein | belak: careful, i might assume you are volunteering ;) | 04:09 |
| holstein | ScottL is the team lead | 04:10 |
| holstein | he takes care of the heavy lifting | 04:10 |
| belak | I'm interested in the process, but not sure about volunteering just yet. ;) | 04:10 |
| holstein | or gets it taken care of | 04:10 |
| belak | Do you think there will be a rebuild when the alt install issue gets fixed? | 04:11 |
| holstein | belak: nah | 04:12 |
| holstein | its not really a bug | 04:12 |
| holstein | its a feature ;p | 04:12 |
| belak | Not really a bug!?? | 04:12 |
| holstein | the alternates are just not compatible with unet | 04:12 |
| belak | Ah | 04:12 |
| holstein | or the ubuntu usb stick maker thingy | 04:13 |
| belak | So, if I burned it to a disk it would work? | 04:13 |
| holstein | belak: right | 04:13 |
| holstein | and i feel like, if we are going to move to a live installer anyways | 04:13 |
| belak | I don't know where my blank dvd's are | 04:13 |
| holstein | then that will be 'fixed' | 04:13 |
| holstein | belak: there are how-tos on that bug though | 04:13 |
| belak | Oh? | 04:13 |
| holstein | work-arounds* | 04:14 |
| holstein | i got the one i posted from the server team | 04:14 |
| holstein | and i didnt try it myself | 04:14 |
| holstein | but | 04:14 |
| holstein | i linked it to several folks that used it succesfully | 04:14 |
| holstein | and i was told there was an even simpler way | 04:14 |
| belak | Ahhh | 04:14 |
| belak | Mostly pulseaudio... | 04:15 |
| belak | Go figure that's what I had issues with | 04:15 |
| holstein | yeah | 04:15 |
| holstein | lots do | 04:15 |
| holstein | ive always been ok with pulse | 04:15 |
| holstein | i start JACK | 04:15 |
| holstein | it moves out of the way | 04:15 |
| holstein | and on my daily machines | 04:15 |
| holstein | it seems to work fine | 04:16 |
| belak | I haven't used ubuntu for audio work before | 04:16 |
| holstein | but, i understand the frustrations | 04:16 |
| holstein | belak: check out #opensourcemusicians | 04:16 |
| holstein | we talk about, and help with making music with these tools | 04:16 |
| belak | I'm used to Logic on macs, as that's what my school has | 04:19 |
| holstein | i never liked the UI much | 04:19 |
| holstein | for logic | 04:19 |
| belak | What do you like? | 04:20 |
| holstein | i know lots of folks like it though | 04:20 |
| holstein | i use ardour | 04:20 |
| holstein | ive used cubase a lot in the past though | 04:20 |
| belak | I'll have to look into ardour | 04:21 |
| holstein | yeah | 04:21 |
| belak | I'm so used to Logic and ProTools... | 04:21 |
| belak | lol | 04:21 |
| belak | Are there any good oss synths? | 04:21 |
| holstein | sure | 04:21 |
| holstein | zynaddsubfx and/or yoshimi are popular | 04:22 |
| holstein | theres a bunch though | 04:22 |
| holstein | im just not a MIDI guy | 04:22 |
| holstein | i do a bit of it | 04:22 |
| belak | I've used Reason for synths... and that's been fantastic | 04:24 |
| belak | Not sure if I'll ever find something to replace it | 04:24 |
| holstein | if you can | 04:25 |
| holstein | dont | 04:25 |
| holstein | thats where its trouble | 04:25 |
| holstein | when you come to linux looking for replacements | 04:25 |
| holstein | i mean | 04:25 |
| holstein | i would not try to replace ardour with something else | 04:25 |
| holstein | its its own thing really | 04:25 |
| belak | I see | 04:25 |
| holstein | i used to use cubase on XP | 04:25 |
| holstein | and that was a lot of adjusting to re-learn how to work | 04:26 |
| holstein | with different tools | 04:26 |
| belak | I'll just have to try what linux has to offer and see what I like and don't like | 04:26 |
| holstein | but, when i settled in | 04:26 |
| holstein | and really got into JACK | 04:26 |
| holstein | and started to realize the potential | 04:26 |
| holstein | the interconnectedness that you just cant get from proprietary software | 04:26 |
| holstein | thats where we have the edge | 04:27 |
| holstein | you can run JACK and ardour on OSX | 04:27 |
| holstein | i have before | 04:27 |
| belak | If I had a mac... lol | 04:28 |
| holstein | yeah | 04:28 |
| holstein | i just assumed | 04:28 |
| belak | I've just got PCs... all with linux... been using the schools macs | 04:28 |
| holstein | with all the logic and pro-tools talk | 04:28 |
| belak | Yeah | 04:28 |
| holstein | well, there all PC's now | 04:28 |
| holstein | intel chips and all :) | 04:28 |
| belak | :P | 04:29 |
| belak | Yeah | 04:29 |
| belak | But good luck running Logic in windows | 04:29 |
| holstein | well, i dont use either | 04:29 |
| belak | Yeah, fair enough | 04:30 |
| YellowGTO | Hey guys | 05:58 |
| YellowGTO | Anyone know real time Mic echo reducer for Ubuntu? | 05:58 |
| robrrt | hey | 06:39 |
| robrrt | hi mona | 06:55 |
| Monona | Hey robrrt. | 06:56 |
| robrrt | no live cd/dvd/?? ong we are doomed!! | 06:56 |
| Monona | Nah, 'salright. | 06:57 |
| holstein | exhibit A | 15:35 |
| holstein | 01:52 < robrrt> no live cd/dvd/?? ong we are doomed!! | 15:35 |
| holstein | :) | 15:35 |
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| cousin_mario | Hello. | 19:29 |
| * cousin_mario would like to know if ubuntustudio will switch to Unity anytime soon. | 19:29 | |
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| === little_mario is now known as cousin_mario | ||
| holstein | cousin_mario: hey | 20:07 |
| holstein | we are actually considering switching to XFCE | 20:07 |
| holstein | however, the repos are, and always will be the same | 20:07 |
| holstein | SO, unity and unity-2d will both always be available | 20:08 |
| holstein | you could, in the future, either install normal ubuntu | 20:08 |
| holstein | and add what you want from the studio meta pacakges | 20:08 |
| holstein | kinda like | 20:08 |
| holstein | !vanilla | 20:08 |
| ubottu | To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation | 20:08 |
| holstein | OR | 20:08 |
| holstein | just customize an ubuntustudio install with unity | 20:09 |
| holstein | easily* actually | 20:09 |
| holstein | with the ubuntu-desktop metapackge | 20:09 |
| cousin_mario | holstein: Actually I wanted to know if Gnome2 was going to be phased out. | 20:14 |
| holstein | cousin_mario: that has nothing to do with us | 20:18 |
| holstein | gnome is phasing gnome2 out | 20:19 |
| holstein | i mean, im sure it'll be around in some capacity for a while | 20:19 |
| holstein | but, we all should be looking toward the future | 20:19 |
| cousin_mario | :( | 20:21 |
| holstein | eh, its cool | 20:21 |
| holstein | these are exciting times | 20:22 |
| cousin_mario | the future doesn't look that good | 20:22 |
| holstein | ubuntu has its own look and feel | 20:22 |
| holstein | KDE is nice | 20:22 |
| holstein | *even though i dont like it | 20:22 |
| cousin_mario | I find Unity rather immature still. | 20:22 |
| holstein | KDE 4.6 is bangin | 20:22 |
| cousin_mario | KDE 4 is slick and polished but it doesn't click... | 20:22 |
| holstein | and XFCE is always doing great stuff | 20:22 |
| cousin_mario | XFCE maybe | 20:22 |
| holstein | LXDE is nice and light | 20:22 |
| cousin_mario | I suppose I just have deep-seated habits regarding UI. | 20:24 |
| holstein | cousin_mario: i hear you | 20:25 |
| holstein | its a time of change for sure | 20:25 |
| holstein | im trying to stay positive about it | 20:26 |
| cousin_mario | gn everyone | 20:40 |
| rgibbs | I kind of like the new xubuntu | 20:57 |
| rgibbs | Maybe I'll add the studio packages to it | 20:57 |
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| === doesthiswork is now known as rgibbs | ||
| holstein | rgibbs: let us know how it goes | 22:03 |
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