[01:09] It might just be me, but I can't get the ubuntu studio install cd to work. It keeps failing on "Select and install software" [01:09] s/cd/dvd/ [01:11] It looks like tons and tons of errors on dependencies of pulse audio stuff [01:46] Well, looks like I have a semi-working minimal install so I'm gonna install ubuntustudio-desktop and see if that works [02:46] belak, how did you get the install disc? [02:47] did you get it from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.04/release/ [02:54] Yeah [02:55] Maybe it was because I tried it with unetbootin [02:57] belak: o/ [02:57] belak: if you would [02:57] PLEASE add yourself to this bug i started... [02:57] relating to the issue you had [02:57] Ah, so it wasn't just me? [02:58] nah [02:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/697774 [02:58] Ubuntu bug 697774 in Ubuntu Studio "cant install ubuntustudio from USB stick" [Undecided,New] [02:58] belak: theres acutally a couple things in the works [02:58] one of which [02:58] is moving to a live installer [02:58] which would solve that issue and maybe a few others [02:59] we'll see* [02:59] belak: its not just ubuntustudio [02:59] its any of the alternate installers [02:59] and there are a few workarounds [02:59] BUT, you can always just install what you want from ubuntustudio into a normal ubuntu install [02:59] !vanilla [02:59] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [03:01] It worked fine for me with xubuntu [03:01] belak: actually [03:01] is that xubuntu 11.04? [03:02] are you planning on keeping XFCE ? [03:02] im asking becuase thats another one of our proposed changes [03:02] moving to XFCE [03:06] Yeah, I like xfce [03:07] And yes it's 11.04 [03:07] They did a really good job with it, I have to say [03:07] anyone near NY or in NY City? [03:08] there are a few NY'res over in #opensourcemusicians [03:08] i go up there from time to time for gigs [03:08] but im pretty far from there [03:08] 10 hours* [03:08] in august I will be there [03:08] and I am looking forward for a nice hostel [03:08] like this one http://nylofthostel.com/english/contact_us [03:09] cool [03:09] i stay at the ASU loft [03:09] in chelsea [03:09] sometimes [03:09] i usually stay with friends though [03:09] and is it more cheaper then that hostel? [03:10] well, if you are an alumni [03:10] which i am not [03:10] but, i know a professor that hooks me up [03:10] its like $30 a night [03:10] My idea is to be very well located, because it will be just 4 days in a hurry [03:10] *bunk beds though [03:10] virtu: have you been there before? [03:10] never been there, 1st time in NY [03:11] well, 4 days is not enough ;) [03:11] just soak it in [03:11] holstein: why are you looking at switching to xfce, out of curiosity? [03:11] and try to keep an eye on your wallet [03:11] i had 8 days up there [03:11] yeah... holstein I will arrive august 1st in philadelphia [03:11] when i was in that loft [03:11] then go to Orlando and Key West until 08/13 [03:12] i had a recording session that cancelled [03:12] and i ended up with lots of spare time to run around [03:12] it was nice [03:12] virtu: is there a local? [03:12] that can show you around? [03:12] you really need a local [03:12] i feel like it took me 4 or 5 trips to really feel comfortable up there [03:13] BUT, im not in a big city like that [03:13] i guess it depends on what you are used to [03:13] what you mean when you call a local [03:14] virtu: i person that lives there* [03:14] ahh no... I dont have nobody there... [03:14] maybe you can find someone [03:14] otherwise, you really just get stuck doing the touristy stuff [03:15] which is fun too though [03:15] that's one reason that I asking about that hostel link that I paste... [03:15] in google that hostel is very well rated [03:15] sent an e-mail right now, asking some informations [03:15] let me look on the map [03:15] there are places in brooklyn you might not want to be [03:16] ive stayed on the edge of redhook [03:16] and thought it was OK [03:16] but, my girlfriend didnt like it [03:16] ok... [03:17] I will travel with a couple of friends... so our worries are just with gadgets that will buy... [03:17] it must be a save hostel [03:18] maybe I will get a new mac [03:19] virtu: i looked at the map [03:19] and ive never been in that area [03:19] ok [03:19] and ive been told to avoid the area that is just north of there [03:19] but, you never know really [03:20] 1613 comments at Google and 4/5 statrs [03:20] the site looks nice [03:20] its not far from the BQE [03:20] sute... very well done [03:20] your not close to a train [03:20] but, your not too far from several different trains [03:21] which is nice [03:21] *like 6 blocks [03:21] thats not bad [03:21] sure... I was reading at google comments and a lot of persons from Europe rated nice... [03:21] i bet you can get over in manhattan in like 15 mintues or so [03:22] virtu: yeah, i wouldnt be scared of that [03:22] virtu: let me know :) [03:22] i stayed at the brooklyn motor inn [03:23] they have an hourly rate ;) [03:23] i little scary [03:23] yup [03:24] virtu: there was a free day [03:24] at the museum of modern art [03:24] you should ask about that [03:24] its in the park [03:24] thats a nice daytime thing to do [03:25] =) [03:25] ok... [03:27] hostel is 10 minutes from Union Sqaure [03:27] 15 minutes from Times Square [03:27] yeah, thats what i was thinking [03:27] is that on the L? [03:27] the grey train? [03:28] eh, you'll figure it out [03:28] its nice that you can catch several different train there though [03:28] within 6 or 8 blocks [03:28] ok... [03:29] today I start to search a cool place to stay... and this hostel seems to be nice... many comments at google [03:29] but... [03:29] I need to make a sightseeing plan [03:30] and with that plan on hand it will be easier to see if that hostel will be very well located [03:30] tomorrow I will dinner with my friends and list what we want to do there [03:31] i really enjoyed riding the train out to coney island [03:31] i started in midtown [03:31] it was a nice ride [03:31] its above ground a lot of the way [03:32] and when i got out there [03:32] i walked around a bit [03:32] you can look back across SO many blocks of brooklyn [03:32] and see straight down the street :) [03:32] thats fun [03:32] and cheap * [03:32] it seems very fun.. [03:33] one idea that I have here.. is to sell here in Brazil my old Nikon D40 camera and get a brand new Nikon 5100 [03:33] and that ride that you told seems to be very nice to catch some pictures [03:34] yeah [03:37] 245U$ for 4 nights at a mixed room [03:38] euro? [03:39] thats like $500 bucks? [03:39] US? [03:39] holstein: in that places it will be safe to get a mac mini, an ipad and other electronics and leave in a closed dock? [03:39] US [03:39] US Dolar [03:39] 245 US ? [03:39] yeah [03:39] thats a great deal [03:39] 245 US for 4 nights [03:39] ok... good to know... [03:40] virtu: closed dock? [03:40] locker? [03:40] something with a lock? [03:40] or a room? [03:40] and 345 US for 4 nights in a Private Room for 2 persons (my friends couple) [03:40] locker [03:40] forgot that world.. [03:40] a locker [03:40] virtu: and you can put a lock on it? [03:41] I guess... have to confim at hostel [03:41] i would ask [03:41] and take a lock [03:41] or get one there [03:41] http://nylofthostel.com/english/booking/faq [03:42] in USA I will get 2 new luggage (samsonite one and a high sierra duffel), so I need one or two well sized lockers to put that stuff into [04:05] holstein: you mentioned switching to xfce [04:05] How come? [04:06] belak: well [04:06] gnome is changing [04:06] and ubuntu is moving to unity [04:07] and we feel like those are not consistent with what studio users need [04:07] and XFCE is nice [04:07] well supported [04:07] fluxbox :) [04:07] and full featured [04:07] paultag: :) [04:07] heyya holstein [04:07] paultag: o/ [04:07] holstein: s'new my friend? [04:08] not much [04:08] working hard [04:08] good man :) [04:08] which is good [04:08] How man devs are there with ubuntu-studio? [04:08] paultag: and you? [04:08] belak: its hard to say how many devs are responisible for the pacakges [04:08] but there are no specific studio devs [04:09] just us chickens :) [04:09] What about the packaging? Package selection and such [04:09] holstein: well, thanks! Just finals time now at Uni [04:09] belak: careful, i might assume you are volunteering ;) [04:10] ScottL is the team lead [04:10] he takes care of the heavy lifting [04:10] I'm interested in the process, but not sure about volunteering just yet. ;) [04:10] or gets it taken care of [04:11] Do you think there will be a rebuild when the alt install issue gets fixed? [04:12] belak: nah [04:12] its not really a bug [04:12] its a feature ;p [04:12] Not really a bug!?? [04:12] the alternates are just not compatible with unet [04:12] Ah [04:13] or the ubuntu usb stick maker thingy [04:13] So, if I burned it to a disk it would work? [04:13] belak: right [04:13] and i feel like, if we are going to move to a live installer anyways [04:13] I don't know where my blank dvd's are [04:13] then that will be 'fixed' [04:13] belak: there are how-tos on that bug though [04:13] Oh? [04:14] work-arounds* [04:14] i got the one i posted from the server team [04:14] and i didnt try it myself [04:14] but [04:14] i linked it to several folks that used it succesfully [04:14] and i was told there was an even simpler way [04:14] Ahhh [04:15] Mostly pulseaudio... [04:15] Go figure that's what I had issues with [04:15] yeah [04:15] lots do [04:15] ive always been ok with pulse [04:15] i start JACK [04:15] it moves out of the way [04:15] and on my daily machines [04:16] it seems to work fine [04:16] I haven't used ubuntu for audio work before [04:16] but, i understand the frustrations [04:16] belak: check out #opensourcemusicians [04:16] we talk about, and help with making music with these tools [04:19] I'm used to Logic on macs, as that's what my school has [04:19] i never liked the UI much [04:19] for logic [04:20] What do you like? [04:20] i know lots of folks like it though [04:20] i use ardour [04:20] ive used cubase a lot in the past though [04:21] I'll have to look into ardour [04:21] yeah [04:21] I'm so used to Logic and ProTools... [04:21] lol [04:21] Are there any good oss synths? [04:21] sure [04:22] zynaddsubfx and/or yoshimi are popular [04:22] theres a bunch though [04:22] im just not a MIDI guy [04:22] i do a bit of it [04:24] I've used Reason for synths... and that's been fantastic [04:24] Not sure if I'll ever find something to replace it [04:25] if you can [04:25] dont [04:25] thats where its trouble [04:25] when you come to linux looking for replacements [04:25] i mean [04:25] i would not try to replace ardour with something else [04:25] its its own thing really [04:25] I see [04:25] i used to use cubase on XP [04:26] and that was a lot of adjusting to re-learn how to work [04:26] with different tools [04:26] I'll just have to try what linux has to offer and see what I like and don't like [04:26] but, when i settled in [04:26] and really got into JACK [04:26] and started to realize the potential [04:26] the interconnectedness that you just cant get from proprietary software [04:27] thats where we have the edge [04:27] you can run JACK and ardour on OSX [04:27] i have before [04:28] If I had a mac... lol [04:28] yeah [04:28] i just assumed [04:28] I've just got PCs... all with linux... been using the schools macs [04:28] with all the logic and pro-tools talk [04:28] Yeah [04:28] well, there all PC's now [04:28] intel chips and all :) [04:29] :P [04:29] Yeah [04:29] But good luck running Logic in windows [04:29] well, i dont use either [04:30] Yeah, fair enough [05:58] Hey guys [05:58] Anyone know real time Mic echo reducer for Ubuntu? [06:39] hey [06:55] hi mona [06:56] Hey robrrt. [06:56] no live cd/dvd/?? ong we are doomed!! [06:57] Nah, 'salright. [15:35] exhibit A [15:35] 01:52 < robrrt> no live cd/dvd/?? ong we are doomed!! [15:35] :) === frederickjh is now known as frederickjh_away [19:29] Hello. [19:29] * cousin_mario would like to know if ubuntustudio will switch to Unity anytime soon. === cousin_mario is now known as little_mario === little_mario is now known as cousin_mario [20:07] cousin_mario: hey [20:07] we are actually considering switching to XFCE [20:07] however, the repos are, and always will be the same [20:08] SO, unity and unity-2d will both always be available [20:08] you could, in the future, either install normal ubuntu [20:08] and add what you want from the studio meta pacakges [20:08] kinda like [20:08] !vanilla [20:08] To install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation [20:08] OR [20:09] just customize an ubuntustudio install with unity [20:09] easily* actually [20:09] with the ubuntu-desktop metapackge [20:14] holstein: Actually I wanted to know if Gnome2 was going to be phased out. [20:18] cousin_mario: that has nothing to do with us [20:19] gnome is phasing gnome2 out [20:19] i mean, im sure it'll be around in some capacity for a while [20:19] but, we all should be looking toward the future [20:21] :( [20:21] eh, its cool [20:22] these are exciting times [20:22] the future doesn't look that good [20:22] ubuntu has its own look and feel [20:22] KDE is nice [20:22] *even though i dont like it [20:22] I find Unity rather immature still. [20:22] KDE 4.6 is bangin [20:22] KDE 4 is slick and polished but it doesn't click... [20:22] and XFCE is always doing great stuff [20:22] XFCE maybe [20:22] LXDE is nice and light [20:24] I suppose I just have deep-seated habits regarding UI. [20:25] cousin_mario: i hear you [20:25] its a time of change for sure [20:26] im trying to stay positive about it [20:40] gn everyone [20:57] I kind of like the new xubuntu [20:57] Maybe I'll add the studio packages to it === rgibbs is now known as doesthiswork === doesthiswork is now known as rgibbs [22:03] rgibbs: let us know how it goes