[01:48] <ijbgreen> hi
[01:48] <ijbgreen> i have an issue over Unity
[01:49] <ijbgreen> vware in all his flavors not runs over Unity always crash
[06:24] <purvesh> my top bar had gone after applying unity in ccsm so it means i cant control windows even cant move some where + alt and Tab not working in ubuntu 11.04
[06:25] <BigWhale> What happens if you press CTRL-ALT-T?
[06:27] <purvesh> BigWhale, nothing ... even alt+ Tab is not working
[06:27] <purvesh> BigWhale, first Thanx for reply :)
[06:28] <BigWhale> CTRL-ALT-F1 should probably work
[06:29] <BigWhale> then login and restart compiz
[06:29] <purvesh> that brings me to normal terminal type window
[06:29] <BigWhale> yes... login
[06:29] <purvesh> k
[06:29] <BigWhale> then do export DISPLAY=":0.0"
[06:29] <BigWhale> and compiz --replace
[06:29] <BigWhale> if this doesn't help... then I'm out of ideas :)
[06:30] <purvesh> BigWhale,  how do i restart compiz ? and where is export display
[06:30] <BigWhale> after you login with your username just enter
[06:30] <BigWhale> export DISPLAY=":0.0"
[06:30] <purvesh> k
[06:30] <BigWhale> compiz --restart
[06:30] <purvesh> thanx
[06:30] <BigWhale> err
[06:30] <BigWhale> compiz --replace
[06:39] <purvesh> if i do "compiz restart" then it shows unknown job and if i try compiz --restart then also it showz "compiz (core) -warn : unknown option 'restart' and in second link compiz (core) -fatal : unknown option 'couldn't open display' "
[06:39] <purvesh> BigWhale, if i do "compiz restart" then it shows unknown job and if i try compiz --restart then also it showz "compiz (core) -warn : unknown option 'restart' and in second link compiz (core) -fatal : unknown option 'couldn't open display' "
[06:40] <BigWhale> Hmm
[06:40] <BigWhale> it is compiz --replace
[06:40] <BigWhale> sorry
[06:40] <purvesh> BigWhale, k
[06:41] <purvesh> BigWhale, let me try
[06:41] <purvesh> BigWhale, couldn't open display !
[06:42] <BigWhale> did you export DISPLAY=":0.0"
[06:42] <purvesh> BigWhale, even i had tried repair wizard of ubuntu
[06:43] <purvesh> BigWhale, nope once it accept restart or replace then i put
[06:43] <Omega> try this
[06:43] <purvesh> BigWhale, or i can put directly export ?
[06:43] <Omega> sudo killall -9 compiz && unity
[06:44] <BigWhale> you have to type export DISPLAY=":0.0" before everything else
[06:44] <Omega> ^ is my swiss knife of compiz crashes
[06:44] <Omega> no
[06:44] <Omega> unity does that for you
[06:44] <BigWhale> oh?
[06:44] <Omega> yep
[06:44] <Omega> it does all the magic for you
[06:45] <Omega> starting compiz, setting the display :)
[06:45] <purvesh> Omega, BigWhale, really what should i try tell me, m confuse ?
[06:45] <BigWhale> what happens if you're running two displays? :>
[06:45] <Omega> purvesh: sudo killall -9 compiz && unity
[06:45] <BigWhale> purvesh, do what Omega suggested. :)
[06:46] <Omega> do that in the TTY (ctrl-alt-F1)
[06:46] <BigWhale> Anyway, I'll bbl... :)
[06:46] <Omega> :>
[06:46] <Omega> It's almost 2am here, I gotta go to bed soon.
[06:48] <Omega> did it work purvesh?
[06:50] <purvesh> Omega, thanx for that command it is automatically set to only :0  not to :0.0
[06:51] <purvesh> Omega, but my problem not solved should i restart ubuntu or what ?
[06:52] <purvesh> Omega, because without top bar i cant work, i can even move any normal window as well as any application windows it stick to top only automatically
[06:52] <Omega> what did you change in ccsm?
[06:54] <Omega> purvesh: do you want to reset what you changed in ccsm?
[06:54] <purvesh> Omega, i had click on first cube desktop then after that clicked on Unity which i had seen here first time on ubuntu 11.04 then it shows some conflict some flip n all i had not read at that time bcz at that time only window stick to top so some text are hiding beside that
[06:55] <purvesh> Omega, ya if it is set to normal default view then also its fine
[06:55] <Omega> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[06:55] <Omega> unity --reset
[06:55] <Omega> that will reset app compiz settings
[06:55] <purvesh> Omega, ohk thanx let me try
[06:55] <Omega> all*
[07:02] <purvesh> BigWhale, Omega, at there i can't type any command bcz it stuck at unknown 9791 error some i can't type
[07:03] <purvesh> Omega, i had tried at ctrl+alt+F1
[07:05] <purvesh> BigWhale, Omega, should i restart my both this gui and that display ?
[07:07] <purvesh> Omega, you there ?
[07:09] <Omega> yes, restart
[07:09] <Omega> I need to sleep now though
[07:09] <Omega> try asking for help in #ubuntu
[07:11] <purvesh> Omega, Thanx a lot for helping me !
[07:31]  * LLStarks sighs
[07:31] <LLStarks> another fitt's law bug
[07:32] <LLStarks> manually closing the ctrl+f search in firefox will invoke the trash bin in 90% of attempted mouse-overs of the X to close it
[07:32] <LLStarks> while one could ctrl+f and then press escape, this is not ideal or user apparent
[07:42] <LLStarks> ubott, i demand you to educate everyone about bug 776930
[08:00] <oSoMoN> good morning
[08:00] <LLStarks> good morning
[08:25] <larsemil> 1st. thanks for wonderful unity, best thing that happened to ubuntu IMO.
[08:27] <larsemil> 2nd. :) What to do if unity bar does not minimize, stays open. anything to do about that
[08:27] <larsemil> njpatel: you know you are my favourite developer, i asked a friend to give you biggest hug next time he runs in to you over at canonical
[08:28] <larsemil> so you know why next time aswede hangs around your shoulders
[08:34] <njpatel> larsemil, hah, thank you :)
[08:35] <larsemil> noone got an idea on what to do when unitypanel does not want to minimize?
[09:03] <larsemil> its a reboot then
[10:15] <kzmdmzk> Hi, is anyone able to comment on the status of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD#Treatment%20of%20hardware%20device%20detection ?
[12:18] <jayneil> hey all..i have Intel dual core processor, 2.5gb ram, nvidia geforce 7600(256Mb) and still I am not able to run Unity.
[12:19] <jayneil> so any suggestions..?
[17:05] <cg> I was wondering if I could get some help. I upgrade to Natty the other day, and now my ctrl-f in all applications that support searching, does not work. Has anyone else experienced this?
[17:15] <elricl> cg Do u mean super key +f?
[17:15] <davidcalle> jcastro, i'm reading on Linux Journal that you demonstrated the Books Lens at Penguincon. THANK YOU!
[17:42] <iggyology_> hi people
[17:43] <iggyology_> I'm having bug issues with Unity
[17:43] <iggyology_> the app icons are broken
[17:45] <iggyology_> ???
[17:45] <iggyology_> anyone here?
[17:49] <iggyology_> anyone here?
[17:49] <iggyology_> that can help me with unity
[17:50] <iggyology_> I'm debating switch to xubuntu because ubuntu's unity seems to be bugged without support
[17:50] <iggyology_> so come one people aren't these bots messaging your iphones or something???
[17:52] <jamalta> iggyology_: why don't you try asking in #ubuntu? There's usually more actives ready to help there.
[17:52] <iggyology_> I am
[17:52] <iggyology_> everyone hates unity and ubuntu
[17:52] <iggyology_> ha!
[17:52] <iggyology_> they say it's too new and not that great
[17:52] <iggyology_> and it's bugged and no one is supporting it enough
[17:53] <iggyology_> to which I am learning that they are right
[17:53] <iggyology_> even though I like the look
[17:53] <iggyology_> so far most people prefer the XFCE environment
[17:54] <iggyology_> it seems to be better refined
[17:54] <iggyology_> less of a weekend project than Gnome
[17:56] <iggyology_> this is my first impression people.... take it for that
[17:56] <iggyology_> not for an experienced position
[17:59] <iggyology_> sorry if I offended someone
[18:00] <iggyology_> I'm just trying to understand the billion faces of Linux
[18:02] <cyphermox> iggyology_, if you're running into bugs, I guess the best is for you to file a bug report against unity to let the developers know, and ask specific questions if it may be worked around
[18:02] <cyphermox> iggyology_, but support questions would usually go better in #ubuntu
[18:03] <iggyology_> cyphermox, I'm in #ubuntu, but strangely enough there are a lot of xubuntu users! Gof figure!
[18:03] <cyphermox> heh, you can still ask questions
[18:04] <hall> is there a list of more serious "known problems" with the unity environment? it is hard searching bug reports for the troubles i have (basically, it does not work at all)
[18:04] <cyphermox> hall, not sure if there is, but my guess is that would be on wiki.ubuntu.com or just in the bug reports against unity
[18:04] <hall> driver issues, system requirements, that kind of thing
[18:04] <cyphermox> if it doesn't work, you can probably track that down to the graphics card though
[18:05] <hall> it starts up and draws stuff all over the place, menus are invisible and applications only use half of the screen no matter what
[18:05] <cyphermox> hall, or file a new bug, and developers can go mark it a duplicate afterwards if necessary ;)
[18:05] <hall> yeah, i guess
[18:05] <cyphermox> hall, are you using multiple monitors?
[18:06] <hall> external monitor, VGA
[18:06] <hall> laptop with X3100 graphics
[18:06] <cyphermox> so yeah, the laptop with an extra external monitor
[18:06] <hall> yes, but i'm only using the external, not the laptop one
[18:07] <cyphermox> oh ok
[18:07] <cyphermox> so yes, I'd assume it's best you file a bug. don't forget to use "ubuntu-bug unity" to do so
[18:08] <iggyology_> cyphermox, can you tell me how to fix an icon in the launch bar that isn't working. Someone in #ubuntu said that it's got something to do with getting away from sudo and going to gksudo.
[18:09] <iggyology_> I have no idea how to do that
[18:09] <cyphermox> iggyology_, which icon?
[18:10] <iggyology_> Firefox and Thunderbird
[18:10] <iggyology_> the other ones work fine
[18:10] <iggyology_> like LibreOffice Writer
[18:10] <cyphermox> I don't think any of them really has anything to do with sudo
[18:10] <iggyology_> or Ubuntu Software Center
[18:10] <iggyology_> that works
[18:10] <cyphermox> is there a white arrow on the left side of the firefox icon?
[18:11] <iggyology_> no white arrow
[18:11] <iggyology_> it's not open
[18:12] <iggyology_> sys-mon flickers when i click on the Firefox icon, but nothing opens.... no process
[18:12] <cyphermox> ok
[18:12] <cyphermox> then please put what you see in the file .xsession-errors in a pastebin -- like paste.ubuntu.com
[18:12] <iggyology_> everything works when I open a command window
[18:13] <iggyology_> You mean what I see when I do a command window?
[18:13] <cyphermox> no
[18:13] <cyphermox> there should be a hidden file called .xsession-errors in your home directory. that will likely contain messages if firefox can't be started by unity, telling us why
[18:14] <iggyology_> oh
[18:14] <cyphermox> but it can be pretty big and verbose, so don't just paste it in the channel, use a pastebin
[18:14] <iggyology_> I'll have to find it, I'm not familiar with that stuff
[18:14] <iggyology_> I've never used pastebin either
[18:14] <iggyology_> lol
[18:14] <iggyology_> can you walk me through getting the hidden file
[18:15] <cyphermox> open a command window and type:  gedit ~/.xsession-errors
[18:16] <iggyology_> k
[18:16] <cyphermox> then open a browser, go to paste.ubuntu.com, copy and paste all that stuff in there, and give us the link
[18:17] <iggyology_> ok
[18:17] <iggyology_> got the document...
[18:17] <iggyology_> pasting
[18:18] <iggyology_> wow, yeah, it's big :)
[18:19] <iggyology_> I see what you mean
[18:19] <iggyology_> so the link is
[18:19] <iggyology_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/603356/
[18:19] <iggyology_> whew...
[18:20] <iggyology_> I wondered what was going on in #ubuntu when people kept posting hyperlinks to that website
[18:20] <iggyology_> What a good idea
[18:22] <cyphermox> iggyology_, er.. so I guess this is a netbook? can you open software center or does that one also not work?
[18:22] <iggyology_> software center works fine
[18:22] <iggyology_> yes, it's an acer aspire one
[18:22] <iggyology_> D255E
[18:23] <cyphermox> iggyology_, did you change the firefox launcher in any way, or is this a new install?
[18:23] <iggyology_> I wanted to know if pasting my .xsession-errors exposes confidential information like the stuff on my keyring?
[18:23] <iggyology_> This is a new install
[18:23] <iggyology_> actually I uninstalled and reinstalled twice already
[18:23] <cyphermox> iggyology_, no, it should be just error messages
[18:23] <iggyology_> ok
[18:24] <iggyology_> I'm assuming that it's taking you a little while to sift through the document for signs of trouble?
[18:24] <cyphermox> i'm not sure, there's quite a lot of stuff there... if you press the windows key on your keyboard and type firefox (or click on the firefox icon in the dash), can you start it then?
[18:25] <iggyology_> yes i can start it from there
[18:26] <iggyology_> can I clear the errors and redo the issue?
[18:26] <cyphermox> ok. in that case is the firefox icon still not showing an arrow, or is there a second firefox icon in the launcher?
[18:26] <cyphermox> iggyology_, no need, the log is fine
[18:26] <iggyology_> ok
[18:28] <cyphermox> iggyology_, is the firefox icon still not showing an arrow, or is there a second firefox icon in the launcher?
[18:30] <iggyology_> ... now the icon is gone from the launcher
[18:30] <cyphermox> but firefox is running?
[18:30] <iggyology_> and when I try to drag a new one in... the new icon disappears... no firefox isn't running
[18:31] <cyphermox> I thought you were able to start it from the dash
[18:31] <iggyology_> no
[18:31] <iggyology_> i can only start it from terminal or
[18:31] <iggyology_> "Applications"
 i'm not sure, there's quite a lot of stuff there... if you press the windows key on your keyboard and type firefox (or click on the firefox icon in the dash), can you start it then?
 yes i can start it from there
[18:31] <cyphermox> right
[18:32] <cyphermox> so what I suggest is, right click the firefox icon from your launcher and uncheck "Keep In Launcher"
[18:32] <iggyology_> this thing you call the "dash" is the problem i think
[18:32] <iggyology_> i did that
[18:33] <cyphermox> then start it from Applications or wherever you manage to start it from, and once firefox starts and the icon appears, right click on the icon and check Keep In Launcher again
[18:35] <iggyology_> for some reason it's busy working on something
[18:35] <iggyology_> just a sec
[18:36] <iggyology_> Ok
[18:36] <iggyology_> so I have a Firefox window open on the desktop, but there is nothing in the "dash"
[18:37] <iggyology_> program open, but no icon in dash....
[18:37] <iggyology_> lol!
[18:37] <cyphermox> iggyology_, well, in that case I'm not sure what else to try
[18:38] <iggyology_> wait, aren't you a unity developer?
[18:38] <cyphermox> iggyology_, I did *some* development on unity, but I can't say I know it inside out ;)
[18:38] <iggyology_> is the Firefox icon supposed to show up in the launcher when there is a window open?
[18:39] <cyphermox> you could always restart your session, or try to reset the compiz and unity settings (that's "unity --reset")
[18:39] <cyphermox> yes, if it's open it should show up
[18:40] <cyphermox> it might not be at the top if you removed the original launcher icon, but it will appears somewhere in the launcher
[18:41] <iggyology_> nope, it's nowhere in the launcher even though I'm looking right at the open firefox window
[18:41] <iggyology_> it's showing on the sys-mon though
[18:42] <iggyology_> ughhhhh I think I'll uninstall the damn thing and try over
[18:42] <spikeb> yeah, that's a known bug i believe :(
[18:43] <iggyology_> I wonder who's working on unity, because it seems like someone is having some premature release issues :) lol
[18:44] <iggyology_> at least call it a beta!
[18:44] <iggyology_> that way people can stick with something like XFCE until the beta is done
[18:44] <iggyology_> or at least help people switch to gnome classic until the bugs are squashed
[18:47] <iggyology_> This all smells like people who have jobs trying to use noobs to fix their projects so they have shi* they can impress their bosses with and get promotions
[18:48] <iggyology_> one guy said that he spent a whole year getting xubuntu where he wanted it... then the next 3 doing tweaks
[18:49] <iggyology_> he was in #ubuntu scraping his knees on the floor trying to get help
[18:49] <iggyology_> Windows is sitting on a pile of our money laughing at us as we fudge ourselves with this stuff
[18:51] <iggyology_> and the virus's are so bad now... it's like I say... If we're the smartest creatures on the planet... than the Earth is fu**ed.
[18:53] <iggyology_> :) coming from the genious that spelled viruses "virus's" :)