sjm | (Ubuntu 11.04) I don't know if this is exactly a "server" issue, but I started with the server install. I then installed lxde on top, but every time I try to change the background on the lxsession, I get a segfault from X: http://pastebin.com/Gc9Jct0m | 01:54 |
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psusi | is anyone able to run the ubuntu livecds in qemu under 11.04? it seems completely fscked for me, either the 11.04 dvd or 10.10 desktop iso just keep having x crash and freeze | 02:15 |
* psusi facepalms... been forgetting to use -m... apparently 384 megs of ram makes Ubuntu piss itself these days | 02:34 | |
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Wipster | could someone clarify what I need to do about this comment? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/776396 I have installed the debug symbols just started apport and the xserver did its lockup and restart, where can I find this 'full backtrace' ? | 11:42 |
ubot4` | Launchpad bug 776396 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Xserver crashes and restarts (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Incomplete] | 11:42 |
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fi8er1 | Cannot change functionality of Super-Key | 13:42 |
hggdh | ? | 14:06 |
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dob1 | hi, i have installed sun jdk on 11.04, now i want to install groovy but ubuntu want to install openjdk and it doesn't use sun-jdk that is just installed, this is a bug? | 14:35 |
ikt | what is groovy? | 14:53 |
yofel | modified java language it seems. The problem here is that it depends on default-jdk and that has a hard dependency on openjdk-6-jdk | 14:56 |
yofel | not sure if that's a bug. It's right that groovy doesn't directly depend on a jdk but on the meta package, but I don't find it very elegant that that only provides openjdk | 14:57 |
yofel | dob1: well, you can switch all the java alternatives to sun using update-alternatives|kalternatives|galternatives at least | 14:59 |
dob1 | it's a jdk language, like scala, clojure etc | 14:59 |
yofel | it sure is a waste of disk space though | 14:59 |
dob1 | yofel: i checked update-alternatives --config java, and i have only sun java as default | 15:00 |
dob1 | yofel: as you said the problem is the default-jdk | 15:01 |
dob1 | it's not very nice to install openjdk too | 15:02 |
dob1 | for example scala is another java language, but it has not these problem, it doesn't require openjdk to be installed | 15:05 |
yofel | true, it has an alternate dependency like it should. File it against groovy then, sun-java6 "Provides: java-compiler, java-sdk, java2-compiler, java2-sdk, java5-sdk, java6-sdk" | 15:08 |
yofel | giving it an alternate depends on one of that should be the right thing | 15:08 |
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kille3 | Why some of the programs what are planned to hide to panel will seem like they are shut down, but the process is still working on background? | 16:14 |
kille3 | Is it a bug in gnome panel? | 16:14 |
charlie-tca | kille3: it depends on the application, but most that go to the panel when you tell it quit are designed that way. | 16:20 |
kille3 | Umm I mean that I cant open them because there is nothing on panel, only way to shutdown them is from process. | 16:23 |
seb128 | if that's under unity those should be ported to indicators or whitelisted | 16:23 |
charlie-tca | That would be a bug, then. They should at least have an icon | 16:23 |
seb128 | open bugs about specific applicaiton if they don't have one | 16:23 |
kille3 | So the problem is on applications, not in gnome panel? | 16:24 |
Wipster | going to have to turn off the computer soon... how do I generate a 'full backtrace' for xserver for my bug report? I have the debug symbols installed and apport was turned on prior to xrestart but didn't pop up and the /Xorg.0.log.old has the same data in it | 16:31 |
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RedSingularity | jibel: think this should be filed against U-M? Issue with the progress bar window. Maybe gtk? bug 769817 | 19:42 |
ubot4` | Launchpad bug 769817 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Installation progress dialog not visible (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769817 | 19:42 |
JoshuaL | a bug like #777335 is that something to mark as WishList or something that should be pointed to the brainstorm page? | 20:29 |
yofel | lp 777335 | 20:30 |
ubot4` | Launchpad bug 777335 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Better naming for Printing menu entry (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/777335 | 20:30 |
JoshuaL | thanks yofel, i forgot about that :p | 20:35 |
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patrickmw | bdmurray: I disconnected for a bit, hopefully I didn't miss your response :) | 21:32 |
bdmurray | patrickmw: no because I didn't see your question | 21:34 |
patrickmw | bdmurray: what are your thoughts on making a way to mark/notate that a pending sru bug is "in testing progress". that way subscribers know its being worked on and so it doesn't get worked on by multiple people to eliminate wasted effort? | 21:35 |
patrickmw | I don't want to spam the comments with -- I'm currently testing this bug. but, it would be nice to see that work is being done on the bug | 21:35 |
bdmurray | I don't think there is that much sru verification work being done that there ends up being duplicated effort. However, if the verification were to take some time a comment might be a good idea. | 21:37 |
cepacolmax | howdy | 21:49 |
cepacolmax | I seem to have found a bug in how Natty handles [d-i grub-installer/only_debian boolean true] and [d-i grub-installer/with_other_os boolean true] preseed directives | 21:50 |
cepacolmax | that is, it seems to ignore them altogether | 21:51 |
maxb | Oh. Really? That would suck very much | 21:56 |
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cepacolmax | yeah it does | 21:56 |
cepacolmax | here's the relevant parts of my preseed: | 21:57 |
cepacolmax | d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda | 21:57 |
cepacolmax | d-i partman-auto/method string regular | 21:57 |
cepacolmax | d-i grub-installer/only_debian boolean true | 21:58 |
cepacolmax | d-i grub-installer/with_other_os boolean true | 21:58 |
cepacolmax | no matter what I try, I get the prompt for "where do you want to install grub?" | 21:58 |
maxb | ugh, i should have removed some of the extra packages from my test preseed | 22:01 |
cepacolmax | ha! | 22:01 |
cepacolmax | and if I change d-i partman-auto/method string regular -> d-i partman-auto/method string lvm I get an even earlier prompt, at "Write the changes to disks and configure LVM?" | 22:04 |
cepacolmax | even though I have d-i partman/confirm_write_new_label boolean true d-i partman/choose_partition select Finish partitioning and write changes to disk d-i partman/confirm boolean true | 22:04 |
cepacolmax | so, there seems to be many changes to preseed syntax for Natty and I don't see anything in the changelog for it | 22:05 |
cepacolmax | at least not in (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes/) | 22:05 |
maxb | cepacolmax: hmm. it worked for me. no prompting in the grub step | 22:06 |
cepacolmax | humph. | 22:07 |
cepacolmax | willing to share your preseed? | 22:07 |
cepacolmax | is it different from http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/example-preseed.txt ? | 22:07 |
roadmr | cepacolmax: um, I've seen some preseed parameters change between versions of d-i (not necessarily Ubuntu-specific, then) without much documentation about the fact | 22:08 |
maxb | wait, etch? | 22:08 |
roadmr | cepacolmax: like some of the keyboard selection directives I believe | 22:08 |
cepacolmax | I did see that in the release notes for Natty | 22:09 |
maxb | Yup, I've not got keyboard selection working to my satisfaction in natty yet | 22:09 |
cepacolmax | etch is what's linked from the ubuntu howto : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet | 22:09 |
cepacolmax | this guy got his kb to work: | 22:10 |
cepacolmax | http://sshrootat.blogspot.com/2011/04/preseeding-ubuntu-natty-1104.html?showComment=1304539004310#c4690327398625143862 | 22:10 |
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cepacolmax | max, if I could see your preseed file, I could diff and maybe see where I'm going wrong | 22:13 |
roadmr | cepacolmax: FWIW I have the same preseed stuff as you posted earlier and I don't get asked about partitions, so it looks like that part hasn't changed | 22:14 |
cepacolmax | wow. | 22:14 |
cepacolmax | is there anywhere to get at logs when I'm doing pxe+preseed? | 22:15 |
cepacolmax | I mean, I can flip over to a console and peek in /var/log, but there doesnt seem to be much there? | 22:16 |
maxb | http://paste.ubuntu.com/603466/ | 22:20 |
maxb | cepacolmax: ^ | 22:20 |
maxb | I think most of the interesting stuff goes to /var/log/syslog in the initrd | 22:20 |
roadmr | maxb: you can also modify your pxe files and add log_host=1.2.3.4 log_port=514 to send syslog to a remote host (where you need to enable remote syslog reception as well) | 22:22 |
cepacolmax | hmmm | 22:22 |
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cepacolmax | thanks guys for looking at it. | 22:26 |
cepacolmax | I'm gonna go dig thru these two preseed files and find the diffs | 22:26 |
maxb | cepacolmax: Let me know if you find it :-) | 22:34 |
maxb | Alternatively, post yours, and I'll run it here just to confirm it doesn't just hate you :-) | 22:35 |
cepacolmax | maxrb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/603472/ | 22:40 |
smuxi-user-jtayl | how does one set a bug to only affect natty and not oneiric? | 22:44 |
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