/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/04/#ubuntu-ca.txt

genii-aroundWoo Tampa Bay!02:19
* genii-around tunes into the Canucks game now\\02:21
ballGO CANUCKS!02:27
genii-aroundVancouver-Tampa would be an interesting Cup series02:28
genii-aroundGah, Preds first blood02:29
genii-aroundYay, Canucks tied it up03:07
ball:-)03:13
genii-aroundBleh. Tied 2-2 with 5:02 left04:30
genii-aroundLast minute of regulation04:35
genii-aroundOT04:36
genii-aroundHm. Coffee or beer, coffee or beer. My eternal dilemma.04:38
IdleOnebeer flavoured coffee04:42
IdleOneor04:43
IdleOnewhisky flavoured coffee04:43
genii-aroundHm. I have rum. So coffee it will be, and a small splash!04:44
IdleOnesmall splash of coffee?04:53
IdleOne:P04:53
genii-aroundWell, pretty much 50/50 actually04:54
IdleOnehehe04:54
genii-aroundBleh this game looks like it's going to be another gruelling long OT nightmare05:01
* genii-around tries to stay awake05:10
genii-aroundYAY CANUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:11
genii-aroundFinally ... ;)05:11
s-foxo/11:06
s-foxHello.11:06
staticsafemorning s-fox11:38
s-foxHello staticsafe . How are you?11:38
staticsafes-fox: heh, a little groggy, just woke up11:38
s-foxAh,  best get some coffee ;)11:39
dscasselMorning, folks.14:43
dscasselOpen chat with sabdfl (that's Mark Shuttleworth) in #ubuntu-classroom in about 15 minutes, if you're interested.14:43
BluesKajhi folks14:45
BluesKajdscassel, it couold be if it wasn't for all his filter flunkies dodging most of the real questions ... mainly full of vague generalities anyway14:47
BluesKajdscassel, so unfortunately my experience with the classroom hasn't been very positive14:53
BluesKajbut I'l try again14:56
BluesKajdscassel,  my question is being filtered ...cannot send to channel ..heh15:13
genii-aroundBluesKaj: You're asking the Q in #ubuntu-classroom-chat ?15:14
BluesKajin #ubuntu-classromm15:14
BluesKaj#ubuntu-classroom even15:15
dscasselYeah, you need to ask questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat.15:16
genii-aroundHm "rolling releases are a very interesting concept"15:16
genii-aroundBluesKaj: You ask questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat, prefaced with QUESTION: or Question:   and then the bot grabs them, sorts them, etc, then the person responds to the Q in #ubuntu-classroom15:18
BluesKajthat's dumb15:18
genii-aroundBluesKaj: Prevents the channel in which replies are being made from being spammed15:18
dscasselIt would be insanity to just have everybody in the one channel.15:18
dscasselDownside of doing these things in IRC.15:19
genii-aroundYup15:19
dscasselThere's a tool called Lernid that's supposed to make the process easier.15:19
dscasselBut I don't think it's being developed anymore.15:19
BluesKajdscassel, well they filter a lot of questions anyway ...fewer questions are answered than asked by a large mrgin15:20
bregmawhen you're running a session, you get really busy15:32
bregmaand really stressed15:32
bregmabut when I ran a session a couple weeks ago, I got all the questions answered15:33
dscasselMark's a bit of a special case. There's no way he could answer everything.15:33
dscasselBluesKaj: There's also things like Ubuntu Developer Week, where you can ask questions of lesser Ubuntu people.15:34
dscasselNot quite as exciting, but you probably stand a better chance of getting an aswer.15:34
dscasselI can always use help getting the word out about these things. :)15:35
BluesKajwell dscassel I asked a specific kde wifi driver/knwtwork manager question and of course it was passed over :)15:36
genii-aroundThats more like a tech support Q though15:37
dscasselYeah, Mark's a big picture kind of guy. :)15:40
dscasselSomething about the status of the kubuntu project or Canonical embracing Qt would probably work better.15:41
BluesKajyeah, vague general stuff...really, who cares ..it doesn't do anything16:01
dscasselIf you want it to *do* something, participate in UDS. :)16:01
BluesKajdscassel, sure ..asking for a kde classroom ...is that too much to ask ? :)16:02
BluesKajubuntu generalities doesn't do much for KDE16:03
dscasselThis is a participatory, volunteer culture. If you want to see something done, the best way is to do it yourself. :)16:03
* dscassel wouldn't be here otherwise...16:03
BluesKajbah dscassel , that's a bit disingenuous , do it yourself ..c'mon now that's not a fair answer16:04
dscasselIt isn't? :)16:05
genii-arounddscassel: BTW, stuck an Ubuntu Canada pin on my netbook case, had already 3-4 questions about it in only a couple days16:05
dscasselThat's kinda what the open source community's all about. Scratch your own itch.16:05
dscasselgenii-around: Awesome. :D16:05
BluesKajdscassel, if you have the means to scratch, yes, to follow your analogy16:06
dscasselBluesKaj: That's why Linux has always struggled to cater to non-technical users.16:08
dscasselUbuntu's come some way in rectifying that...16:08
dscasselmostly by creating this community infrastructure.16:08
dscasselBut even that takes work.  It doesn't come for free.16:09
BluesKajall I asked for was a KDE classroom ... but gnome rules16:09
dscasselFortunately, most people can contibute on the community side...16:09
dscasselYou mean an IRC channel?16:09
dscasselOr sessions in developer week?16:10
dscasselAnybody can do classroom sessions. Although there's a limited amount of space in the designated weeks.16:10
dscasselBut there's no reason someone couldn't start a Kbuntu week.16:10
dscasselAnd round up a bunch of smart and knowledgeable Kubuntu people to do sessions.16:11
* genii-around thinks about jabbity-jabbing J Riddell16:11
dscasselLike txwikinger  :)16:11
BluesKajdscassel, no a classroom for kde users similar to the ubuntu-classroom , that's all and we don't need mark sd , just some knowledgeable ppl to help us help16:11
dscasselYou can start a new channel. That's not a big deal. But ubuntu-classroom sits idle most of the time.16:11
dscasselAnd there's already infrastructure to support it. So why not use that?16:12
genii-aroundRight now actually, the instructor for next topic in -classroom did not show. Anyone could volunteer to fill the spot with something Kubuntu related, but no one is stepping up16:12
BluesKajNM, this is a waste of time ..16:12
dscasselBluesKaj: txwikinger is on the community council for kubuntu-de.  There are people around who can help make these things happen. But it may take more to see it happen than just float the idea, is all I'm saying.16:21
BluesKajdscassel, yes understood , it would be beneficial to ppl like me who need technical expertise in kde rather than learning from the few volunteers who actually give of their time and knowledge in #kubuntu16:25
BluesKajstuff to do ...BBL17:45
s-foxTTFN17:52
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