[04:00] <sweemeng> cannot brain!!!!!!
[07:46] <fairuz> :D
[09:17] <newbies> hi
[09:17] <newbies> bole ckp melayu x nih
[09:18] <newbies> eeeeeeeeerr senyap je nih
[09:18] <fairuz> boleh2
[09:18] <newbies> hehe
[09:18] <fairuz> nama pun -my :D
[09:18] <newbies> ada or grupanye
[09:18] <newbies> cenggini
[09:19] <newbies> nk ty sket r..payah x guna ubuntu nih dlm laptop acer 4520?
[09:19] <newbies> tgk pada forum xphm r step dia
[09:19] <fairuz> kurang faham
[09:19] <fairuz> sama je pttnye laptop ape pun
[09:19] <newbies> dah try install..tp WLAN..sound xdek
[09:19] <fairuz> susah dari segi penggunaan ubuntu ke ape tu
[09:19] <fairuz> oo
[09:20] <newbies> driver
[09:20] <newbies> ada solution?
[09:20] <fairuz> kena install driver tu je pttnye
[09:20] <fairuz> jap nak cek
[09:20] <newbies> ok2
[09:20] <newbies> br install ubuntu 10..yg latest blom install lg
[09:21] <fairuz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=715187 cuba try tgk ni
[09:21] <angch> newbies: tak perlu install pun boleh test sound driver dengan live cd.
[09:21] <fairuz> mane tau dapat idea ke
[09:22] <fairuz> tapi disebabkan dah install, ok la tu :D
[09:22] <angch> newbies: cuba 11.04 punya live cd.
[09:22] <newbies> ooo
[09:22] <fairuz> aah, bagus jugak idea tu
[09:22] <fairuz> try live cd untuk natty
[09:22] <newbies> kalo guna yg latest punye mmg ada sound?
[09:22] <fairuz> mana tau dia dah siap2 ada driver tu suma
[09:22] <newbies> ok2
[09:22] <fairuz> newbies: tak sure
[09:22] <angch> newbies: kalau ada sound... upgradelah ke 11.04 :)
[09:23] <newbies> sbb da formatlaptop..mmg nk guna ubuntu je xmo guna windows da sbb nk cuba mender baru
[09:23] <fairuz> newbies: good move :D
[09:23] <newbies> :)
[09:24] <newbies> so jap lg nk try install 11.04 plak...br je pas abes donlod nih
[09:24] <newbies> heheheh
[09:24] <newbies> tgk pd screenshot..1.04 nih ada different sket kn
[09:24] <newbies> oops 11.04
[09:25] <fairuz> try live cd dulu sebelum install
[09:25] <angch> newbies: hmmmm. forum tu untuk ubuntu yang lama.... (2008)
[09:25] <fairuz> baru tak bazir masa sikit
[09:25] <newbies> oooo
[09:25] <fairuz> angch: a'a lama tu..
[09:25] <newbies> sbb lama xphm step dia huhuh
[09:25] <newbies> mmg guna ubuntu nih kena main ngn coding eh
[09:26] <angch> newbies: ? taklah.
[09:26] <newbies> sbb tgk pada forum seme main coding je..adeehh pening
[09:27] <angch> fwiw, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Acer
[09:27] <newbies> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510352&page=11
[09:27] <angch> newbies: really, really outdated. jangan ikut.
[09:28] <newbies> oic
[09:28] <newbies> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Acer  <<---- yg nih pe mksd nye?
[09:29] <newbies> sori la byk ty..betol nube huhuhu
[09:29] <angch> newbies: senarai laptop yang gurantee boleh run ubuntu 
[09:29] <angch> newbies: skrng dalam notebook dalam linux ke?
[09:29] <newbies> ooo..skang tgh online guna pc opis :p
[09:30] <newbies> guna windows
[09:30] <newbies> da bosan rasanye guna windowws nih
[09:30] <angch> newbies: dah try System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers ke?
[09:30] <newbies> blom lg
[09:31] <newbies> just nk ty2 dlu canner
[09:31] <angch> cuba try juga: System -> Administration -> System Testing.
[09:31] <newbies> uat masa nih laptop ada kt member..dia br nk try godek2 ubuntu..saje bg racun :p
[09:32] <yuskhanzab> salam
[09:32] <fairuz> sapa terer C dlm ni :D
[09:32] <angch> newbies: System Testing akan bagi actual model sound card. baru senang google kalau linux/ubuntu support dia 100%. (dan juga boleh test benda2 lain)
[09:32] <fairuz> yuskhanzab: salam
[09:33] <yuskhanzab> baru dapat tgk org chat dalam channel ni
[09:33] <yuskhanzab> biasa semua diam jer :d
[09:33] <newbies> oooo
[09:33] <newbies> ok2
[09:33] <newbies> nnt sy try
[09:33] <newbies> bila da try running nnt bole cr driver dia..kan?
[09:33] <yuskhanzab> nape newbies 
[09:34] <newbies> xde pape pun
[09:34] <newbies> hehe
[09:34] <newbies> saje je ty2 pasal ubuntu nih
[09:34] <angch> newbies: heh, biasanya kalau tak boleh run atau sound card tak support.... kena compile kernel driver.
[09:35] <angch> newbies: acer tu baru ke lama?
[09:35] <newbies> acer aspire 4520
[09:35] <angch> kalau lama biasanya sound boleh disupport.
[09:35] <yuskhanzab> aku guna ubuntu kat acer jgak ni
[09:35] <newbies> oooo ye ke yus?
[09:35] <yuskhanzab> yea
[09:35] <newbies> acer model mna?
[09:35] <yuskhanzab> model 4741G
[09:35] <yuskhanzab> baru kot
[09:36] <newbies> ubunbtu ver sion bape?
[09:36] <yuskhanzab> 10
[09:36] <yuskhanzab> 10.10
[09:36] <newbies> oic
[09:36] <newbies> sy guna aspire 4520..da install tp sound lak xde
[09:36] <newbies> itu yg ty dlm nih
[09:36] <yuskhanzab> ermmm dah configure sound?
[09:37] <angch> tbh, kalau tak jalan.... lebih senang cari usb sound card... :(
[09:37] <newbies> nsb baik fairuz n angch ada td
[09:37] <yuskhanzab> kat system>preferences>sound
[09:37] <newbies> blom configure lg
[09:37] <yuskhanzab> godek2 kat situ
[09:37] <newbies> oooo
[09:38] <newbies> ok2
[09:38] <newbies> laptop xdek kt tgn lg nih..bg member explore dlu canner best nye ubuntu nih ahaks
[09:39] <newbies> jap lg nk amik balik..install 11.04 then kalo xdek sound nk try configure canner yg korg bg td
[09:39] <yuskhanzab> kat sound preferences tu ada tab sound effect,hardware, input, output dan application
[09:39] <yuskhanzab> cube tgk kat tab hardware
[09:39] <newbies> oooo
[09:39] <newbies> nnt sy try tgk kn
[09:39] <newbies> ada pape lg tips?
[09:39] <yuskhanzab> ko gune skrg ver11.04 ke
[09:39] <newbies> hehehehe
[09:40] <newbies> nope..sy skan gguna pc opis..itu yg bole online tu :p
[09:40] <yuskhanzab> ooo
[09:40] <newbies> selain masalah sound..ada x kemungkinan masalah yg sama pd WLAN?
[09:40]  * yuskhanzab pernah install 11.04 tapi da revert ke 10.10
[09:41] <newbies> laa nape?
[09:41] <yuskhanzab> tak berkenan dgn unity
[09:41] <fairuz> :p
[09:41] <newbies> unity?
[09:41] <yuskhanzab> hehe
[09:41] <newbies> xphm
[09:41] <yuskhanzab> ya
[09:41] <yuskhanzab> paparan kat desktop tu
[09:41] <newbies> nape dg nunity?
[09:41] <newbies> oooooo
[09:41] <newbies> sbb taskbar belah kanan?
[09:41] <yuskhanzab> takde papa la, cuma tak berkenan
[09:41] <fairuz> yuskhanzab: kan bole tukar
[09:41] <newbies> eh kanan lak kiri
[09:42] <yuskhanzab> boleh guna ubuntu classix
[09:42] <fairuz> kat login tu, bukan boleh pilih classic ke
[09:42] <fairuz> aah
[09:42] <newbies> ooooo ..dh tu citer r pe yg xberkenan tu...cer citer..cer citer
[09:42] <yuskhanzab> tapi masa tu byk bug
[09:42] <fairuz> ni dah official release ni, try ler lagi hehe
[09:42] <yuskhanzab> lagipon perasan startup 11.04 lambat sket dari 10.10
[09:43] <newbies> oooo
[09:43] <yuskhanzab> masa tu aku tak fresh install, aku update dari update manager
[09:43] <yuskhanzab> mungkin file system bertindih sbb tu byk bug
[09:44] <newbies> ooooo ada beza eh kalo thru update manager?
[09:44] <yuskhanzab> aku cadang kalau nak install ubuntu bek fresh install
[09:44] <newbies> oic
[09:44] <yuskhanzab> ada
[09:44] <newbies> tq2
[09:44] <yuskhanzab> aku da 2 kali update ubuntu dari update manager
[09:44] <yuskhanzab> 10.04 ke 10.10.. 10.10 ke 11.04
[09:44] <newbies> oooo
[09:44] <newbies> then revert balik 10.10
[09:44] <newbies> :p
[09:44] <yuskhanzab> separuh efect akan jadi bug
[09:45] <yuskhanzab> revert ke 10.10 bab tak ada cd 11.04
[09:45] <yuskhanzab> haha
[09:45] <newbies> hahaha
[09:45] <newbies> alaaa donlod je..bkn lam apun
[09:45] <newbies> hahah
[09:45] <yuskhanzab> dalam 11.04 ada jgak menu ubuntu classic bg yg tak suka unity
[09:45] <newbies> oic
[09:46] <yuskhanzab> skg gune modem digi je ni
[09:46] <newbies> ok guys..da nk sign out nih
[09:46] <yuskhanzab> lambat sket
[09:46] <yuskhanzab> ok
[09:46] <newbies> thanks 4 everything
[09:46] <newbies> byk dpt ilmu arinih
[09:46] <yuskhanzab> :)
[09:46] <newbies> ada gak org dlm nih senang sket nk citer
[09:46] <newbies> hehehe
[09:46] <yuskhanzab> jarang ada org
[09:46] <newbies> ok thanks again
[09:46] <yuskhanzab> haha
[09:47] <yuskhanzab> welcomed
[09:48] <yuskhanzab> fairuz, duk mane
[09:48] <fairuz> yuskhanzab: asal kelantan, tp kat france ni
[09:48] <fairuz> tgh kat opis keke
[09:48] <yuskhanzab> oo.. wah jauh jugak
[09:49] <yuskhanzab> kerja ke
[09:49] <fairuz> aa
[09:50] <yuskhanzab> best la dapat keluar negara
[09:50] <fairuz> kalau gi melancong best le, kalau duk lame2 takde la best mane pun
[09:50] <yuskhanzab> jauh perjalanan luas permandangan dan banyak pengalaman
[09:51] <fairuz> rindu sate , mamak, etc
[09:51] <fairuz> hehe
[09:51] <yuskhanzab> lol
[09:51] <yuskhanzab> kerja apa?
[09:53] <fairuz> system engineer
[09:53] <fairuz> benda2 linux, android, etc2
[09:54] <yuskhanzab> ooooo
[09:54] <yuskhanzab> macam wat program, software tu ke
[09:54] <fairuz> tak jugak
[09:54] <yuskhanzab> ermmmm bis tu
[09:55] <fairuz> mcm performance ubuntu ke, mcm integrate patch untuk linux tree ke
[09:55] <fairuz> benda2 mcm tu la
[09:55]  * yuskhanzab tak paham sgt
[09:55] <yuskhanzab> baru lagi dalam bidang ni
[09:55] <yuskhanzab> :)
[09:56] <yuskhanzab> pakai ubuntu ni start 2010
[09:57] <fairuz> yuskhanzab: ok la tu
[09:57] <fairuz> sebelum ni windows ke, ke distro lain
[09:57] <yuskhanzab> windows
[09:58] <yuskhanzab> tapi masa aku abis sekolah dlu pernah sekali pakai distro mandriva
[09:58] <yuskhanzab> kejap jerk
[09:58] <yuskhanzab> godek2 last2 boring
[09:58] <fairuz> oo, aku pernah pakai ubuntu dengan fedora je
[09:58] <fairuz> yg lain tak pernah lg keke
[09:58] <yuskhanzab> last2 aku tertarik dgn compiz dalam ubuntu
[09:59] <yuskhanzab> try download ubuntu masa tu v10.04
[09:59] <yuskhanzab> godek2 lama2 tertarik lak
[10:00] <yuskhanzab> betul cakap blogger tu, pakai windows bertahun2 last2 jumpe ubuntu tak sampai setahun da tetarik
[10:00] <yuskhanzab> haha
[10:00] <fairuz> keke
[10:00] <fairuz> tapi depend jugak nak buat ape
[10:00] <fairuz> aku prefer windows untuk buat keja pakai Word, etc
[10:00] <fairuz> OpenOffice tak menarik
[10:01] <yuskhanzab> komputer ni beli utk mengame je
[10:01] <fairuz> keke same la
[10:01]  * fairuz baru beli motherboard ngan proc baru semalam
[10:01] <yuskhanzab> oooo
[10:01] <yuskhanzab> keluaran apa
[10:02] <fairuz> proc aku try i5 2500K , motherboard asus p8p67
[10:03] <yuskhanzab> oo
[10:03] <fairuz> baru pasang, tak sempat try lg keke
[10:03] <yuskhanzab> aku tak pandai pasang komputer
[10:04] <yuskhanzab> tapi kalau pasang hard disk tu pandai la
[10:04] <yuskhanzab> :d
[10:05] <yuskhanzab> fairuz, ada main game ragnarok?
[10:06] <fairuz> yuskhanzab: dulu time skolah ade la, lame dahh
[10:06] <fairuz> time dia baru kluar dulu ja
[10:06] <fairuz> masa tu free lagi
[10:06] <fairuz> sekarang main starcraft ja
[10:06] <fairuz> main ragnarok lagi ka
[10:06] <yuskhanzab> main
[10:06] <yuskhanzab> tapi private server
[10:07] <yuskhanzab> yg official mro kene bayar
[10:07] <yuskhanzab> malas da
[10:07] <yuskhanzab> tah masih ada lg tak char tu
[10:07] <yuskhanzab> hehe
[10:08] <fairuz> keke
[10:08] <yuskhanzab> klo install game tu dalam linux guna wine, dia tak leh main
[10:09] <yuskhanzab> tapi game warcraft 3 leh plak main
[10:09] <fairuz> oo
[10:09] <fairuz> stabil ke main game pakai wine
[10:09] <fairuz> tak pnh try
[10:10] <yuskhanzab> ok je
[10:10] <yuskhanzab> tapi tu la masa dalam game tu tak boleh alt+tab
[10:11] <yuskhanzab> tapi tak tau la kalau game lain
[10:11] <yuskhanzab> aku main warcaft je setakat ni dalam linux
[10:11] <fairuz> oo
[10:12] <yuskhanzab> bila tertekan keyboard shortcut macam alt+tab,alt+f2, ctrl+alt+D game tu terus hilang fungsi keyboard
[10:13] <yuskhanzab> kene kluar, pastu masuk balik baru leh main macam biasa
[10:13] <yuskhanzab> mksd nye klo da start game tu, tak leh g desktop atau bukak proglain
[10:16] <yuskhanzab> jp ada kje**
[10:16] <fairuz> oo
[10:16] <fairuz> tensen jugak mcm tu
[10:24] <yuskhanzab> haha
[10:25] <yuskhanzab> tu la pasal tak delete windows, gune dual boot
[10:25] <yuskhanzab> cara terbaik
[10:25] <yuskhanzab> hehe
[10:26] <yuskhanzab> klo nak men game gune windows, klo nak surfing internet ke chat ke tgk movie ke download gune ubuntu
[10:26] <yuskhanzab> windows tu tuk men game je :D
[10:26] <yuskhanzab> da kecik kan partition windows
[10:26] <yuskhanzab> ubuntu lg besar.. haha
[10:28] <yuskhanzab> klo linux ni support game macam windows, komfom aku da delete windows
[10:28] <yuskhanzab> home edition je, bukan ultimate pon
[10:28] <yuskhanzab> :D
[10:30] <fairuz> keke
[10:31] <angch> yuskhanzab: 1. boot windows. 2. run virtualbox dengan raw harddisk. 3. boot linux dalam virtualbox. 4. profit.
[12:16] <fairuz> masuk balik ka :D