| LjL | [02:15:02] *** Nisstyre is now known as Mark_Shuttlecock. | 01:15 |
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| * Jordan_U doubts that AlexGer has actually gotten that error from Ubuntu, and further doubts that they have any intention of actually trying Ubuntu. | 03:48 | |
| IdleOne | you mean the camerabin error? | 03:48 |
| Jordan_U | IdleOne: "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources." during install. | 04:02 |
| IdleOne | yeah I looked at scroll back I had confused them with someone else | 04:03 |
| bazhang | the main helpers razzing unity and telling people to stay away from natty is not acceptable in my opinion | 04:39 |
| bazhang | pointing out other options, like gnome classic mode, unity 2d and the like are fine, but to say in a somewhat veiled manner -unity sucks- just invites more of the same | 04:40 |
| IdleOne | +1 | 04:40 |
| Tm_T | bazhang: agreed, support channels are not the place to push anyones opinions | 06:04 |
| Sterist | does anyone have a contact with the PSubuntu forum? | 06:08 |
| Sterist | --moderators | 06:08 |
| IdleOne | PSUbuntu? | 06:09 |
| Sterist | ps3's ubuntu page | 06:09 |
| Jordan_U | I would be surprised if anyone did. And this isn't really the place anyway. | 06:09 |
| IdleOne | Sterist: ah, non-official builds. I don't know... | 06:09 |
| Sterist | i figured as much but asking in the main channel is pretty much hopeless | 06:10 |
| Sterist | sorry | 06:10 |
| IdleOne | there must be a contact us link on their forums | 06:10 |
| hypatia | whois their domain | 06:10 |
| hypatia | :D | 06:10 |
| Sterist | ...there are still official builds cranking out for ps3 (but they dont install) all available from alternate downloads link | 06:11 |
| Sterist | the forums are dead as a doornail | 06:11 |
| Sterist | :( | 06:11 |
| IdleOne | Sterist: what I meant by non-official was that Canonical is not involved afaik. not an official derivative. | 06:12 |
| Sterist | pretty sure the ps3 builds are run-of-the-mill PPC64 | 06:14 |
| bazhang | #ubuntu-ps3 iirc | 06:14 |
| Sterist | oooh ty | 06:14 |
| Sterist | lol you just made it :( oh well, i'll cease convo on this channel. sorry | 06:15 |
| ubottu | llutz called the ops in #ubuntu (Guest66097 trolling, spamming) | 08:35 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from guest66097) | 08:35 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, llutz said: no fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot | 08:42 |
| ubottu | shcherbak called the ops in #ubuntu () | 08:48 |
| bazhang | surprised idoru did not get hyu | 08:51 |
| tsimpson | bazhang: idoru is not in #ubuntu | 08:52 |
| bazhang | tsimpson, ah sorry, thought it was | 08:52 |
| tsimpson | it was, but not now | 08:52 |
| bazhang | must be thinking of another channel | 08:52 |
| bazhang | ah right | 08:52 |
| tsimpson | it was decided at a meeting to trial removing it: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/24/%23ubuntu-meeting.html | 08:53 |
| bazhang | okay thanks | 08:53 |
| bazhang | not sure why someone is using minimal install if they cannot get to the command line | 12:06 |
| LjL | bots behaved correctly? | 12:31 |
| bazhang | well they kinda went crazy and all did +q and then -q on a serial spammer <hyu> | 12:31 |
| * LjL greps | 12:31 | |
| LjL | hmm. well i guess they behaved as expected, mostly (the spam was not of the kind that would trigger a ban) - the bad thing is the multiple -q, i'll have to fix that somehow | 12:33 |
| LjL | and by the way, on the topic of triggering bans - i've made a change yesterday, now whenever someone is "detected as abusive", they get banned for good | 12:34 |
| LjL | the !ops message here has been changed to specify that | 12:34 |
| LjL | and also, they get a PM saying they should join #ubuntu-ops if it's an error | 12:34 |
| bazhang | added to akick ? | 12:34 |
| LjL | no no, just banned as opposed to temporarily muted | 12:35 |
| bazhang | ah right | 12:35 |
| Flannel | What sort of false positives has that been having? | 12:35 |
| Flannel | s/sort/percentage/ | 12:36 |
| LjL | Flannel: not many to my knowledge, since it always called !ops in the first place so ops would have complained about any false positives, i imagine ;) | 12:37 |
| LjL | let me try something | 12:37 |
| LjL | +q me by nickname and +z the channel please | 12:37 |
| LjL | (and stay opped if you want to see) | 12:38 |
| Flannel | in #u? | 12:40 |
| LjL | yes | 12:40 |
| LjL | i'm going to spam a little - the +q is so that my spam isn't seen by users | 12:40 |
| Flannel | mhmm, I gathered as much | 12:40 |
| Flannel | auto_bleh will remove it in 10 (in case I die, etc, but fair warning) | 12:41 |
| LjL | did good to test, as it isn't working =) | 12:42 |
| * LjL is bit puzzled | 12:46 | |
| jussi | LjL: also, having 3 of them opped creates a bit of modespam everytime they -q someone | 12:48 |
| LjL | jussi: yeah that's what bazhang pointed out i think. wish the server ignored the other -q's (it does ignore +q's) | 12:49 |
| LjL | i'll have to find a solution to that | 12:49 |
| Flannel | No notification, by the way. | 12:50 |
| LjL | indeedely | 12:50 |
| Flannel | LjL: I think you're back to normal now | 12:50 |
| LjL | yes, good idea to point that out | 12:50 |
| Flannel | LjL: So don't go spouting randomness :) | 12:51 |
| LjL | jussi: i should have worked around the -q spam now, but anyway i might eventually just go back to having only one opped at a time. i thought having all three opped would improve reaction time, but i'm not even so sure | 12:56 |
| LjL | jussi: have you seen/pondered my -council request of yesterday? | 12:58 |
| jussi | LjL: ahh yes - I was waiting for you to join -bots-team | 12:59 |
| LjL | ok Flannel can you +zq again? last time, i promise! maybe. | 13:01 |
| bazhang | ashmew2 is a known issue from u-r-p days | 13:01 |
| Flannel | LjL: 10 minutes again | 13:03 |
| Pici | eh? | 13:04 |
| LjL | what the hell, it still doesn't work | 13:04 |
| LjL | Pici: testing bots | 13:04 |
| Pici | LjL: ah | 13:04 |
| LjL | i think i've broken the whole flood thing :\ reverting to old code | 13:06 |
| LjL | although i don't see how i broke it | 13:06 |
| LjL | actually, maybe i know. removing the floodbots for a moment to test them in different channel | 13:07 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (LjL appears to be flooding, but emergency mode is on) | 13:11 |
| bazhang | hehe | 13:11 |
| bazhang | permaban! | 13:11 |
| LjL | =) sorry, are going to be a few fake calls | 13:11 |
| Flannel | LjL: you're done in #u | 13:14 |
| LjL | ok | 13:14 |
| LjL | going to continue testing in #floodbot anyway | 13:14 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (LjL appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY - 6) | 13:16 |
| LjL | Flannel: so basically all the testing in #ubuntu was useless, because i forgot about a foundamental thing - that when you mute someone manually, then the floodbots won't act on that specific mute again :) | 13:18 |
| Pici | -ot is especially annoying today. | 13:20 |
| LjL | Pici: you mean language calls are especially annoying? | 13:21 |
| Pici | LjL: Everything. | 13:21 |
| topyli | this is like star trek. "commander LjL, the bots can't take much more" | 13:21 |
| LjL | i think one of these days the bots will revolt and permban me | 13:21 |
| topyli | "don't tell me what the bots can take! i created them!" | 13:21 |
| LjL | the question is, will they do that first or will you :P | 13:22 |
| bazhang | * [h4x0rs] (~maroccain@adsl196-211-58-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma): maroccain | 13:22 |
| LjL | oh lord | 13:23 |
| LjL | so it was maroccain yesterday too? | 13:23 |
| bazhang | if someone else wants to handle this. he PM me some very nasty stuff last time I banned him for praising bin laden, and going on and on in that vein | 13:23 |
| bazhang | he is ban evading, at the very least | 13:24 |
| LjL | he managed to be banned from ##club too | 13:24 |
| LjL | that really does mean he's bad :P | 13:24 |
| bazhang | and ##linux | 13:24 |
| bazhang | along with very bad bot | 13:24 |
| ikonia | is h4x0rs evading yes/no ? | 13:49 |
| bazhang | yes | 13:49 |
| ikonia | it's the same guy we spoke about the other day I assume | 13:50 |
| bazhang | yes | 13:50 |
| bazhang | very abusive and openly calling attention to his ban evading | 13:50 |
| ikonia | yes, I remember this discussion the other day | 13:50 |
| bazhang | LPIC is the linux exam? | 14:21 |
| LjL | je ne sais pas | 14:21 |
| Pici | I believe so. | 14:21 |
| bazhang | <sabri_icone> i want some document or blank exam if possible | 14:21 |
| Pici | ... | 14:21 |
| Pici | Thats likely for testing themselves, than for cheating. | 14:22 |
| Pici | Or at least I hope. | 14:22 |
| LjL | still not quite ontopic, is it? | 14:22 |
| bazhang | alumni exam? | 14:23 |
| bazhang | blackbit wants to give me the Turing Test , I presume as he's PM'd me | 14:24 |
| LjL | well drop the joke and tell him you're not a bot? | 14:24 |
| bazhang | since lmsensors got dropped in natty what replaces it? gkrellm? | 14:29 |
| bazhang | err lm-sensors | 14:30 |
| LjL | oh lord lm-sensors dropped? :( | 14:30 |
| bazhang | bizarre. when I just upgraded , it said obselete, but the bot says its still in | 14:31 |
| ikonia | I was surprised pidgin was still in main also | 14:33 |
| jpds | Wait, you guys haven't done the LPIC? | 14:37 |
| jpds | LjL: Point him at | 14:38 |
| jpds | http://lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1/exam_101_sample_questions | 14:38 |
| bazhang | I can barely install packages with apt! | 14:38 |
| LjL | pointed | 14:38 |
| LjL | [15:42:10] --> Nisstyre has joined this channel (~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info). | 14:42 |
| LjL | yesterday night this used changed nicks to Mark_Shuttlecock and some "other" user started asking him trollish things about Ubuntu being broken | 14:42 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (ssfdre37 appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY - 5) | 19:04 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (ssfdre37 appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY - 5) | 19:04 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (ssfdre37 appears to be abusive and has been muted, will need to be UNMUTED MANUALLY - 5) | 19:04 |
| jrib | at least they are original | 19:04 |
| jrib | oh wait | 19:04 |
| LjL | people, how about if the bots set a (brief?) +r every time there is a k-line? | 19:04 |
| jrib | no :( | 19:05 |
| LjL | lately, i've often seen someone joining, getting k-lined, and then someone else gets through | 19:05 |
| Pici | LjL: how short? | 19:05 |
| LjL | two minutes? | 19:05 |
| jrib | do k-lines really involve groups of ips more often than a single ip? | 19:06 |
| LjL | i wouldn't know that | 19:06 |
| LjL | i think in these cases i'm seeing, the k-lines are happening because these people are being recognized as open proxies shortly after joining | 19:06 |
| LjL | but i'm not really sure | 19:06 |
| IdleOne | Why doesn't freenode just deny access to any open proxy? | 19:08 |
| LjL | because how does it know it's an open proxy? | 19:10 |
| IdleOne | beats me | 19:10 |
| IdleOne | guess my question was stupid | 19:10 |
| LjL | not particularly | 19:10 |
| LjL | but there are two ways to detect open proxies | 19:10 |
| LjL | one is to use a blacklist, in which case you can just deny access | 19:11 |
| LjL | the other is probing on the fly, but then what happens if the proxy doesn't reply immediately? | 19:11 |
| IdleOne | it can't send to channel until it replies | 19:11 |
| LjL | it's conjectures, mind, i don't know how it really works on freenode | 19:11 |
| LjL | IdleOne: well if it's not a proxy, then it quite possibly will never reply | 19:11 |
| IdleOne | ok I clearer know nothing about this | 19:12 |
| IdleOne | :) | 19:12 |
| IdleOne | clearly* | 19:12 |
| Pici | 'go kiss a cobra'? | 19:17 |
| Pici | o.O | 19:17 |
| jrib | yes, wasn't sure how to take that... | 19:17 |
| IdleOne | not nicely | 19:17 |
| IdleOne | it is clear to me what it meant | 19:18 |
| jrib | I was going to pm, but whatever | 19:18 |
| Pici | I guess its sort of similar to 'kiss my asp' | 19:18 |
| IdleOne | more front facing but yeah | 19:19 |
| jrib | 60 hits on google for "go kiss a cobra" | 19:19 |
| Pici | Wierd. | 19:19 |
| Pici | Weird too | 19:19 |
| Pici | IdleOne: lars is still banned in -ot, right? | 20:09 |
| IdleOne | afaik | 20:09 |
| IdleOne | chronic ban evader he is | 20:10 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1777 users, 2 overflows, 1779 limit)) | 20:20 |
| IdleOne | LjL: wasn't Nysstyre an issue yesterday? | 21:09 |
| IdleOne | Nisstyre | 21:09 |
| IdleOne | * | 21:09 |
| LjL | IdleOne: yes, about when i went to bed he nicked to Mark_Shuttlecock. he said nothing himself that i saw, but another user made reference to him | 21:10 |
| LjL | another user who could of course have been the same user | 21:10 |
| IdleOne | ok well he isn't using a bad nick now. Will keep a look out | 21:10 |
| * jrib wonders what the most gratuitous use of pastebin ever is | 22:41 | |
| Pici | jrib: I thought that was the floodbots | 22:42 |
| jrib | haha | 22:43 |
| LjL | jrib: http://pastebin.com/VGupZ3qn | 22:44 |
| jrib | heh | 22:44 |
| jrib | http://pastebin.com/nDYHgqV0 * | 22:45 |
| LjL | jrib: http://pastebin.com/gS0TCu3A | 22:46 |
| Flannel | LjL: I did find you! | 22:47 |
| jrib | LjL: haha | 22:52 |
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