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apocalipsysas much as i read 1 will be the master and the other 2 are storage00:00
madwillis there an official way to make a file like index.html point to another file say zenlive.html ?00:28
SpamapSmadwill: several ways00:29
SpamapSmadwill: the most flexible way is to use mod_rewrite00:29
SpamapSmadwill: or, another simple one, just use a symlink (and turn on FollowSymlinks00:29
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tsrkHow do I add kernel boot parameters?00:37
hallyntsrk: best is to add them in /etc/default/grub, then run update-grub01:17
hallyn(add them to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX)01:19
tsrkhallyn: Ok, thank you. What's the difference between ..._LINUX and ..._LINUX_DEFAULT?01:35
Califg01:42
Califer01:42
Califoops01:42
Califwrong win01:42
sjm(Ubuntu 11.04) I don't know if this is exactly a "server" issue, but I started with the server install.  I then installed lxde on top, but every time I try to change the background on the lxsession, I get a segfault from X: http://pastebin.com/Gc9Jct0m01:43
hallynoh no, tsrk has skeedaddled01:52
hallynsjm: yeah best to go to #ubuntu-desktop with that01:53
sjmhallyn, ok, thanks.01:54
habrielhello i need help in this cfgmaker --output=/etc/mrtg/mrtg.cfg public@192.168.10.102:04
habriel     have set my ip from router02:04
habrieli am setting mrtg in ubuntu server02:04
Macerwow. eyeos2 seems to have come a long way02:06
Macerthink i am going to have to it up soon :)02:07
Maceri just hate that it requires openoffice in order to export to odt02:07
Macerwell.. od*02:07
twbMacer: eyeos?02:13
twbhabriel: you may prefer something newer, like collectd or munin or cacti02:13
twbhabriel: mrtg is pretty old-school02:13
Macertwb: web based "OS"02:14
twbOh, one of those DEs in js02:14
Macerwell.. more of a UI than OS.. supposed to be open source cloud computing02:14
Maceryeah02:14
twbBugger that shite02:14
Macerthey did quite a bit of work on it since i last tried it02:14
Macertwb: i don't know it seems to work fairly well :)02:14
Macerit is good for idiot proofing the way employees use their workstations heh02:15
Macerzimbra was actually supposed to be good for that but wow has it just gotten worse and worse02:15
Maceri think of all the things i have tried to figure out a web based solution for employees.. zimbra had to be about the biggest let down i have ever seen02:16
Macerespecially nowadays.. where they can't seem to get things to work right.. like the Instant Messaging.. so their solution was to simply eliminate it02:16
Maceri hear they are removing their docs section too02:16
habrieltwb so you recommended cacti02:16
Macerso i suppose it is just a glorified imap server with a web ui? :)02:17
twbhabriel: no because it's PHP02:22
twbhabriel: I definitely recommend collectd02:22
twbMacer: the main things that non-free exchange clones provide you is calendaring and an outlook connector (outlook is crap at IMAP).02:23
habrieli am looking a tool monitoring easy02:23
twbMacer: unfortunately they also like to reinvent the distro in /opt02:24
Macertwb: well zimbra concentrated on fixing their connectors than actually turning into something that was actually useful02:24
twbMacer: I would recommend first looking at apple calendarserver (which is FOSS and in Ubuntu already), and replacing outlook with tbird.02:24
Macerwhich was a shame because it had so so so much potential.. i was a huge fan up until right before 7.002:24
Macertwb: i would never use zimbra again02:25
twbI've rolled out zimbra and scalix a few times, and I would never ever do so voluntarily02:25
Macernot in the direction it is going now02:25
twbRight!02:25
Macerheh02:25
Macerit seriuosly could have given exchange a run for its money if it didn't cnocentrate so much on trying to get it to work with exchange and only worked on its own thing as an alternative to exchange02:25
Macerbut they wanted to bite into the ms customers02:25
habrieltwb: do you have any guide for set collectd in ubuntu sever02:26
Macerwhich i think was a poor business decision. they should have pushed their web interface and its ability to IM, file share, etc all in one spot.. along with fixing their docs02:26
Macerinstead they are eliminating im and docs... and i mean.. i don't see what good it is anymore as a "collaboration suite" without its ability to actually communicate and share documents. :)02:27
Macerit was supposed to be a one stop interface requiring nothing but a web browser and even a slower small powered client .. it could have been amazing.. i would have used it for everything and pushed it onto everyone i came across .. but now they totally suck02:28
twbhabriel: I don't, but basically you install collectd-core (without rrdtool) on your spokes, and collectd-core (with rrdtool) on your hub.02:28
twbhabriel: then you instruct the spokes to send to the hub, and the hub to accept info from spokes02:28
Macerso i am looking for alternatives and eyeos seems the closest to what zimbra should have been... :) need to set it up tomorrow and give it a real test run on my ubuntu server02:28
twbhabriel: then you instruct them as to what information to collect02:29
Macerif i can figure out how to get it to properly export od* then i am happy02:29
twbhabriel: finally, you set up collection3 or some other visualization, so you can browse to a web page and see graphs of the data02:29
habrielthanks twb i will try02:30
CalifIs there a default dhcp server included in ubuntuserver, if so where can I find it?03:01
genii-around!info isc-dhcp-server03:02
ubottuisc-dhcp-server (source: isc-dhcp): ISC DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component main, is optional. Version 4.1.1-P1-15ubuntu9 (natty), package size 392 kB, installed size 980 kB03:02
genii-aroundCalif: Is not installed by default.03:03
CalifI installed natty, does that mean I have it?03:03
Califok03:03
Califcrap03:03
CalifI gotta do something real quick ill be right back to ask some more questions about tihs... namely how to do I get it? And further is there a simple way to derive the download link from something without gui, in cli?03:04
twbCalif: (most) services are not installed by default.03:04
twbCalif: try running "tasksel"03:04
twbCalif: you should also read the Ubuntu Server Guide03:04
CalifBrb sorry.. gotta step away for one min03:05
Califbrb,..,03:05
ruben23hi guys i have a domain name pointed to my server public ip adn i wanted it somehow to be mydomain name for myweb server using publci ip any idea how do i do it with Vhost04:30
julian_cMore of an Apache question (see #httpd), but...04:33
julian_cAre you trying to run multiple sites with different domain names on the same running instance of httpd?04:34
lambda_xhow can i tell multipathd to recheck volume sizes?07:00
koolhead11hi RoAkSoAx07:41
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twister004hi guys... im using mysqldump to backup some databases on my ubuntu server.... can I view some logs to ensure if the backup went through without any issues??.. please advise!08:30
dc5alatwister004, you mean automated via cronjob?08:40
twister004dc5ala...yes.. can I do a --log-error=filename?08:42
dc5alatwister004, in your crontab you can put a line like MAILTO=twister004...08:43
twister004dc5ala... what can I mail?.... which log file?08:44
dc5alatwister004, you will get the output of the command via mail08:44
dc5alatwister004, or you just redirect output of mysqldump into a file via ">" yourself when you run it08:44
dc5alaor better, append it with ">>"08:45
twister004dc5ala... can I just do a "sqldump -u <uname> -p <password> --opt --skip-lock-tables --databases info_schema > /mnt/.../test.sql >> test.txt"???08:47
dc5alaops, sorry, think i did mistake, let me see :)08:48
kaushalhi08:48
dc5alatwister004, i just see there is a --log-error=name parameter for mysqldump, may give that a try08:49
twister004dc5ala.. i tried that.. i get the following error "mysqldump: unknown variable 'log-error=test.txt'"08:50
twister004looks like mysql maybe an old version08:50
kaushalcan i know the history of iotop application ?08:50
twister004output of  'mysqldump -V' is "mysqldump  Ver 10.10 Distrib 5.0.24a, for pc-linux-gnu (i486)"08:51
dc5alayou did prepend "--" ?08:51
twister004yes08:51
dc5alai only checked the parameter list of mysqldump on a server of mine, says mysqldump  Ver 10.11 Distrib 5.0.51a08:52
twister004dc5ala... will >> work?08:52
twister004yup.. so it's a version problem.. mine's old... I dont wanna update mysql coz this is production environment08:53
dc5alahave a look in the help if there is an log-error parameter08:53
twister004nop08:53
twister004ot's not there08:53
twister004it's*08:53
dc5alathat one is old server too :)08:53
dc5alamaybe there is a generic logging parameter?08:54
twister004nothing... only flush-log08:54
twister004nothing to do with logging error08:54
twister004willl the mysql.log or mysql.err file under /var/log/ help?08:55
dc5alai have a look on another machine, what version is running there08:55
bencchow can I make changes in /etc/security/limits.conf take effect without restarting the server?08:55
benccI need to increase the max allowed file-descriptors08:55
twister004dc5ala.. there's another machine with sql version "mysqldump  Ver 10.11 Distrib 5.0.51a, for debian-linux-gnu (i486)"... hee I see the '--log-error' parameter08:57
twister004it's a version problem08:57
twister004here**08:58
dc5alahehe, guess so08:58
dc5alayou may try redirect "stderr" maybe, e.g. mysqldump ... > out.sql 2>>error.log08:59
dc5alatwister004, the logs under /var/log/mysql are probably only used by the server and not by msqldump, not sure09:01
twister004dc5ala... 2>>error.log doesn't seem to be working09:02
dc5alahow comes? :)09:03
dc5alaif mysqldump writes anything to stderr it should end in that file09:04
twister004thanks09:05
twister004dc5ala.... 2>>error.log is working09:05
twister004!!!09:05
twister004thank you!!!09:05
twister004atleast it's getting redirected to a log file.09:05
dc5alacould you force and error to test it?09:05
dc5alatwister, oh, just see another thing i used in a script, mysqldump ... > db-$(date +%Y%m%d).sql09:09
dc5alatwister004, puts a nice timestamp in your filename09:09
benccdoes "sudo more /proc/sys/fs/file-nr" give me the total used file descriptors on my server?10:35
koolhead11hi all10:58
koolhead11jdstrand, i have reported the bug as you suggested.10:58
juliuxhi, does somebody knows how i can use clusterssh with ssh agent forward?11:39
uvirtbotNew bug: #777022 in mysql-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.54-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77702212:11
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uvirtbotNew bug: #777033 in postfix (main) "installation lacks RELEASE_NOTES-2.6 documentation file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77703312:36
lambda_xhow can i tell multipathd to recheck volume sizes?12:50
jdstrandkoolhead11: thanks!13:10
jamespagettx: around?14:11
jamespagettx: just wondered how etherpad had held up at the OpenStack summit?14:11
zuljamespage: it didnt blow up :)14:13
jamespagezul: thats good :-)14:14
jamespagethinks are looking OK for using it at UDS as well14:14
zuljamespage: \o/14:14
uvirtbotNew bug: #777096 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.1 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77709614:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #777103 in groovy (main) "Merge groovy (1.7.10-1) from debian unstable" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77710314:36
cemcon 10.04 when do the rc2.d/S* scripts start, before, after or durint the stuff in upstart?14:41
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uvirtbotNew bug: #776299 in apache2 (main) "package apache2-mpm-prefork (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77629915:02
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VanuatooHello, I've got Gigabyte GA-H67MA-UD2H-B3 motherboard and have 2 disks configured as RAID 1 from BIOS. When I boot Ubuntu Server 11.04 64 bit on my computer it cannot find the disks. I manually go to Detect Disks step and system prompts me to select Driver. Can you tell me what driver should I select?16:30
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ping16:43
RoAkSoAxkirkland: is the dell laptop we tested powernap back in January a 4 core?16:43
kirklandRoAkSoAx: nope, dual core16:44
ppetrakiVanuatoo, I believe that's "fakeraid"16:44
ppetrakiVanuatoo, dmraid package is what you need16:45
uvirtbotNew bug: #777193 in ethtool (main) "ethtool settings may not apply on boot with separate /usr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77719316:46
RoAkSoAxkirkland: k thanks16:46
ppetrakiVanuatoo, caution, I'm not aware of many folks who use fake raid in production environments. Mostly it's used as a compatibility bridge for users who are dual booting from an existing Windows installation.16:46
VanuatooThere is no fake raid in the list16:47
ppetrakiVanuatoo, that's the slang name, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto16:48
marruslSpamapS, the ethtool bug above is mine.  thought you might be interested from a boot perspective.16:48
DefghanistanHello, I am looking for any documention or information regarding Ubuntu server MPIO. Can anyone here point me in the right direction or give me any useful advice?16:49
ppetrakiVanuatoo, I don't know if dmraid support ever made it into the installer.16:49
ppetrakiVanuatoo, wish I could give you more direct assistance though I don't have any first hand experience settiing up these fakeraid deployments. I've been avoiding them like the plauge, MD is a more robust and better supported option16:51
VanuatooWhat is MD?16:51
miceikenFor some reason I get this error in my apache log: "[Wed May 04 17:51:36 2011] [error] [client 192.168.10.105] File does not exist: /var/www/~rt", any way to narrow it down to the file I've stated that in16:52
ppetrakiVanuatoo, Linux's defacto software raid stack, managed by mdadm16:52
ppetrakiDefghanistan, MPIO deployments are SAN specific, what are you trying to deploy? No, we don't have Ubuntu centric MPIO docs but the general available ones for other distros are applicable, for the most part.16:58
DefghanistanWe're working with a netapp fibre channel SAN, deploying ubuntu server to fulfill web and database roles17:00
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koolhead17hi all17:08
bluethundrquick question, guys.. if a server has just apache2-mpm-prefork installed is it an apache server? or would that be only machines with apache2 installed?17:50
bluethundrdumb question I know17:50
marruslHey guys...  any opinions on replacing dash with bash?  I don't mean in general, I have a customer who wants to do that on their systems.17:52
marruslactually they asked specifically about what upstart uses for script stanza's.  but i assume the more relevant question is what you link /bin/sh to.17:52
ghostlineshi all, I'm setting up a bridge I've configured br0 I'll also still have to configure one of my real interfaces also for example eth0 right?18:13
uvirtbotNew bug: #777261 in librdmacm (main) "Sync librdmacm 1.0.14.1-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77726118:21
roboto change an IP do I just edit /etc/network/interfaces and restart networking?18:22
roboThat's what the doc's say but this is a remote machine and I'd hate for it to not come back up18:23
hggdhsmoser: I *know* you already told me, but I am afraid I forgot: how does one boot a karmic EC2 kernel? With --kernel? And where are the kernel lists?18:23
BCS-SatoriHello,  I installed "linux-scst" which installed linux-image-2.6.32-29-scst on my ubuntu 10.04 server, however when the system boots its selecting 2.6.32-31-server.  I do not see the scst kernel in my grub configuration either.  Any ideas on how I can boot the system to the scst kernel?  Thanks19:08
NikolasrHello, can someone help me with bridging connections..when i type ifconfig i get listed only primary device19:14
patdk-wkNikolasr, use brctl19:16
Nikolasryes..but when i type eth0 its says invalid device ignoring..19:17
Nikolasr:)19:17
patdk-wkman brctl :)19:18
Nikolasri mean when i type brctl addif "primary" "eth0"            (without quotes)19:21
NikolasrI got notting.19:22
NikolasrPlease help me.19:22
kirklandRoAkSoAx: ping19:36
RoAkSoAxkirkland: pong19:37
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i have a small but significant fix to powernap's load monitor19:38
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i'm wondering if you mind doing the sru?19:38
RoAkSoAxkirkland: sure19:38
RoAkSoAxkirkland: just commit it to lp:powernap and I'll grab it from there19:39
RoAkSoAxkirkland: or better yet, commit your fix, release a new version in oneiric, and I'll SRU your fix19:40
kirklandRoAkSoAx: yeah, that's what i was thinking19:40
kirklandRoAkSoAx: here's the fix i'm testing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/603409/19:40
kirklandRoAkSoAx: basically, if the load threshold is "n", we need to count the number of processors every time we run19:41
kirklandRoAkSoAx: because if we're powernapping, and we're down to 1 processor, then we want to wake if load gets above 119:41
kirklandRoAkSoAx: rather than wait until load gets to 16 (if we have 16 processors)19:42
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i don't like the commands.getoutput("getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN") every time this runs though19:42
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i want to do it more cheaply than that19:42
kirklandRoAkSoAx: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1006289/how-to-find-out-the-number-of-cpus-in-python19:43
RoAkSoAxkirkland: yeah makes sense to me all of it19:43
RoAkSoAxkirkland: though will importing the multiprocessing module be really cheaper?19:43
kirklandRoAkSoAx: hmm19:44
RoAkSoAxkirkland: and may be subject of errors19:45
kirklandRoAkSoAx: hmm19:45
kirklandRoAkSoAx: let me test19:45
RoAkSoAxkirkland: let's just try it out for now, I don't think it will really make any difference19:48
kirklandRoAkSoAx: my testing says you're wrong19:49
kirkland:-)19:49
kirklandkirkland@x201:/tmp$ time python 1.py19:49
kirklandreal    0m0.834s19:49
kirklandkirkland@x201:/tmp$ time python 2.py19:49
kirklandreal    0m16.143s19:49
kirkland1.py: http://paste.ubuntu.com/603416/19:49
kirkland2.py: http://paste.ubuntu.com/603417/19:49
kirkland:-)19:49
RoAkSoAxkirkland: cool then! Let's just use multiprocessing then :)19:50
ghostlineshi all, I'm trying to point virt-install to my cdrom drive but -c /cdrom isn't working how should this be done?19:55
RoAkSoAxghostlines: this works in Natty19:56
RoAkSoAxnot before19:56
RoAkSoAxat least it shouyld19:56
ghostlineshmmm, otherwise I must make an image of it?19:58
RoAkSoAxghostlines: and you might have to make the cdrom available through HTTP19:58
ghostlinesdamn, seems like I have to jump through hoops to use a local device20:00
RoAkSoAxghostlines: the thing is that virt-install does not correctly determine that a cdrom is an ubuntu source/distro20:00
RoAkSoAxghostlines: so this was fixed patched in Natty20:00
ghostlinesahhh20:01
RoAkSoAxghostlines: however, I've only tested this when making the loop mounted cdrom available through HTTP, not through /cdrom20:01
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ghostlinesI could swear that virt-manager allowed me to select devices after a vm was installed, real strange that I can't do it with virt-install20:02
ghostlinesthanks for your help though, think I'm just gunna try and make an image of the dvd20:03
RoAkSoAxghostlines: virt-manager uses libvirt while virt-install uses python-virtinst AFAIK20:03
ghostlinesubuntu's docs needs to get updates as well the python-virtinst pkg doesn't exist in 10.10 it's just virinst20:04
RoAkSoAxghostlines: upstream is python-virtinst in ubuntu it is just virtinst20:05
kirklandRoAkSoAx: we should also use os.getloadavg()[0]20:06
kirklandRoAkSoAx: it's over twice as fast as reading /proc/loadavg20:06
ghostlinesRoAkSoAx, and since when did /dev/cdrom move to /cdrom ? I gotta really keep up20:07
RoAkSoAxkirkland: cool then. I guess we'll have to look throughout the code for tricks like this20:07
RoAkSoAxghostlines: I don't know actually20:07
kirklandRoAkSoAx: yeah20:07
kirklandRoAkSoAx: well, it might be my fault after all :-)20:08
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i'm listed as the author of that file :-P20:09
RoAkSoAxkirkland: hehe nah well neither you nor are/were python experts to know all the tricks and functions python already provides20:09
RoAkSoAxhehe20:09
RoAkSoAxkirkland: btw.. take a look at it, and tell me what you think: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cobbler20:13
uvirtbotNew bug: #777356 in postfix (main) "[fixed upstream, regression] Postfix smtp does not skip unknown XFORWARD attributes, causing SMTP syntax errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77735620:21
ttxjamespage: re:etherpad -- no problem at all20:31
ttxjamespage: though I'd admit that not everyone was using it, and that we had only 2 sessions in parallel20:32
RoAkSoAxkirkland: just thought of something. the idea of scale the threshold should only work when using the script that turns off the cores right?20:43
RoAkSoAxkirkland: never mind it doens't really matter20:43
kirklandRoAkSoAx: nah20:43
kirklandRoAkSoAx: okay, my load monitor fixes work great20:45
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i'm about to release powernap 2.720:45
kirklandRoAkSoAx: are you happy with the other features you've merged for oneiric?20:45
RoAkSoAxkirkland: yes, please release it20:45
kirklandRoAkSoAx: done20:45
RoAkSoAxkirkland: i was planning to switch to source format 3.0 but that can be left for 2.820:45
RoAkSoAxas it is not high priority right now20:46
kirklandRoAkSoAx: hmm, when you do, you'll need to fix a bug somewhere, either in bikeshed:release-build or somewhere else20:46
RoAkSoAxkirkland: I've attached a debdiff for natty, could you please sponsor it?20:46
RoAkSoAxkirkland: how so?20:46
kirklandRoAkSoAx: as bzr bd fails for me when i do source format 3.0 and try to release-build20:46
kirklandRoAkSoAx: you'll see :-)20:46
RoAkSoAxkirkland: hehe ok20:47
kirklandRoAkSoAx: are you doing the SRU justification or am i?20:48
RoAkSoAxkirkland: just did it :)20:48
kirklandsweet20:48
smoserhggdh, karmic images were never moved to pv-grub.20:56
smoserso you can't really boot a karmic ec2 kernel other than the one associated with the image.20:57
Macereyeos 2.x was bust.. 1.9 is awesome21:03
someguyhi here21:03
someguyanybody willing to help me with phpmyadmin problem21:03
someguyi'm running fcgi as parser21:04
hallynkees: mk-sbuild oneiric is failing for me, bc awk isn't being installed so dpkg -i basefiles fails.  Is this anything you know about offhand?21:11
RoAkSoAxkirkland: so release-build should not do the first bzr bd?21:16
kirklandRoAkSoAx: hmm21:16
kirklandRoAkSoAx: well, that's always worked before21:17
kirklandbut, yeah21:17
kirklandokay21:17
kirklandRoAkSoAx: it needs to move that bzr bd to the end21:17
kirklandRoAkSoAx: after everything else21:17
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and it'll build the -0ubuntu1.deb21:17
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ok cool!21:19
kirklandRoAkSoAx: uploaded powernap_2.6-0ubuntu2.1_source.changes21:19
RoAkSoAxkirkland: thanks21:19
hggdhsmoser: any chance of generating a karmic ec2 kernel for the -29?21:22
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hallynDaviey: what do you think about dropping https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-kvm-document-suggested-changes ?22:00
hallynzul: this is funny - the scheduler is working *so* hard to keep me out of convenient afternoon sessions (i have none in the last two hours) that i'm double-booked for the lxc session22:04
zulhallyn: doh...talk to robbie22:05
hallynzul: yeah the one that's 3am central time may have quite a few ppl attending remotely from US so that one should be moved if possible22:06
zulwhat you dont wake up that early?22:06
hallynzul: i may still be awake at that point, but unsure22:15
sorenhallyn: Not coming to UDS?22:18
hallynsoren: alas, not this time22:18
sorenThat was getting really annoying.22:19
sorenhallyn: But you'll miss out on all the Hungarian... err... stuff!22:20
* soren can't think of anything uniquely Hungarian22:20
hallynsoren: not to mention all the uds camaraderie.  i'd love to be going.  c'est la vie.22:22
adam_ganyone know if libvirt supports CoW cloning of qcow2 based VMs via virt-manager?22:27
someguyhi people22:42
someguyanyone up here to stress their brain ?22:43
zulsoren: umm...hungarian gulash?23:23
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lynxmanzul: Hungarian gulash is yummy23:56

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