| ali1234 | this is completely true | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| ali1234 | i don't know why they even bother putting an OS | 00:03 |
| ali1234 | the first thing anyone with any sense does is wipe it and start again | 00:03 |
| envygeeks | wait, Packard Bell is still around? I thought HP killed that brand | 00:03 |
| envygeeks | Not HP sorry, Acer* | 00:04 |
| minarge | hello? | 00:30 |
| reaper4334 | Hi | 01:11 |
| reaper4334 | anyone around? :] | 01:12 |
| greeneyees | hooaammm,, | 04:33 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 06:25 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 06:25 |
| nigelb | Morning | 06:38 |
| AlanBell | happy starwars day everyone | 06:46 |
| AlanBell | May the fourth be with you | 06:47 |
| MartijnVdS | ... | 06:47 |
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| gord | AlanBell, its starwars day? | 07:52 |
| ging | may the fourth | 07:54 |
| gord | oh | 07:54 |
| gord | i get it | 07:55 |
| HazRPG | heh I got a text at midnight about that | 08:15 |
| HazRPG | apparently he always forgets every 4th of may about it... and this was the first time he remembered on time | 08:16 |
| HazRPG | so he thought he'd share that with me at midnight... :/ lol | 08:16 |
| DJones | Morning all | 08:22 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 08:34 |
| Pendulum | morning brobostigon | 08:35 |
| DJones | Hi brobostigon Pendulum | 08:35 |
| brobostigon | morning Pendulum and DJones :) | 08:36 |
| Pendulum | hi DJones :) | 08:36 |
| kaushal | hi | 08:48 |
| kaushal | I have to always do insmod module.ko, I have added it in /etc/modules and /etc/rc.local | 08:49 |
| brobostigon | morning kaushal | 08:49 |
| kaushal | still it does not work | 08:49 |
| kaushal | brobostigon: Good Morning | 08:49 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:53 |
| HazRPG | I think I might have to test gnome-shell | 08:55 |
| brobostigon | :) | 08:55 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 08:57 |
| brobostigon | morning MooDoo :) | 08:58 |
| MooDoo | :D | 08:59 |
| kaushal | checking again for the query ? | 09:01 |
| knightwise | morning everyone | 09:16 |
| popey | Morning | 09:17 |
| gord | morning peoples | 09:17 |
| knightwise | hey guyz | 09:18 |
| knightwise | could i borrow some of your wisdom again ? | 09:18 |
| wintellect | Mornin friends | 09:19 |
| knightwise | ps : i also want you guyz to know i wrote up an article about you guys helping me with the podcast script . its kind of an 'epic story' and its featured in the latest knightcast podcast (episode 52) | 09:20 |
| knightwise | i've been tinkering with my "podcatching scritp' some more but seem to run into an odd problem when it comes to using Rsync | 09:22 |
| knightwise | i've posted it on the ubuntu forums but haven't had any reply yet , perhaps you guyz know what could be wrong : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1699708&highlight=knightwise&page=2 | 09:23 |
| knightwise | The script scans a directory (with subdirectories) that hold all my podcasts. | 09:24 |
| knightwise | it selects the latest podcast added and copies it over to a directory (with the cp command) | 09:24 |
| knightwise | now i changed the cp command for an Rsync command (because i would like to use dropbox as a middle man) to my dropbox foder | 09:24 |
| knightwise | it selects the podcasts , rsyncs them over .. and then suddenly deletes ALL of them again and copies 3 more. | 09:25 |
| knightwise | realy strange | 09:25 |
| awilkins | Any idea when Launchpad is coming back up? | 09:33 |
| gord | an hour or so | 09:33 |
| awilkins | Found my first non-Unity gripe with Natty :-( | 09:34 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: the 600 security updates it already has? | 09:35 |
| awilkins | MartijnVdS, No, this is an audio driver problem | 09:35 |
| gord | there are always a lot of updates shortly after release | 09:35 |
| awilkins | Mic input isn't working at all ; was previously suffering from work-around-able bug #593018 | 09:35 |
| gord | there are a few weeks where no uploads are done whilst testing happens. so we prepare 0-day SRU's | 09:35 |
| lubotu3 | 'Error: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">\n<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en"\n lang="en" dir="ltr">\n <head>\n <title>Error: you can\'t do this right now</title>\n <link rel="shortcut icon" href="/@@/launchpad.png" />\n\n \n \n\n \n \n <link type="text/css" rel="stylesheet"\n media="screen, print"\n href= | 09:36 |
| MartijnVdS | cool | 09:36 |
| MartijnVdS | the bot broke | 09:36 |
| gord | launchpad is down remember | 09:36 |
| MartijnVdS | it is? | 09:36 |
| awilkins | I think it's more LP is down and the API doesn't distinguish between RO and RW method calls | 09:36 |
| awilkins | The workaround no longer works ; mic input can't be coaxed into working. Can't Skype, can't work. Might have to go back to Maverick ( <sulk> ) | 09:38 |
| awilkins | Or boot into Windows for conference calling but that's a PITA because then I don't have access to my proper working environment | 09:39 |
| gord | google is awesome, claimed i was signed in and signed out on the same page | 09:41 |
| awilkins | That thing where you have a list of removable media, including unmounted ones, in GNOME, and you can select one and it will mount it and show it in Nautilus, is there an equivalent in Unity? | 09:42 |
| awilkins | I have a drive that isn't in the fstab on a SATA port (in a removable caddy) ; doesn't count as a "removable" drive because it's SATA so it doesn't just mount when you socket it, but I can't find a place to mount it from the GUI | 09:44 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: palimpsest? | 09:45 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: aka the disk utility? | 09:45 |
| awilkins | MartijnVdS, That works, not nearly as convenient as it could be though. | 09:46 |
| awilkins | Aha, LP arises | 09:53 |
| brobostigon | arghh, too much package breakage, tht i cant fix, i think i will do a reinstall :( | 09:58 |
| JamesTait | Buenos días a todos! | 09:58 |
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| dwatkins | moin moin | 10:10 |
| brobostigon | moin dwatkins | 10:11 |
| bigcalm | Good morning kids :) | 10:18 |
| dwatkins | Good morning Bigcalm | 10:18 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Phil Bull] Cosmology Meets Machine Learning - http://philbull.livejournal.com/59661.html | 10:19 |
| jonsaint | hi all. does anyone know if theres a patch yet for the keyring because since upgrading i have to enter it twice! | 10:21 |
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| Guest72551 | jonsaint, disable it in startup applications settings, win key + type startup | 10:28 |
| bigcalm | Some people 'spreading the word of god' are about to knock on my door. Apart from ignoring the door, what's the best way to deal with them? | 10:48 |
| kazade | invite them in, and ask them questions like "Could God create a rock so big that he couldn't lift it" etc. | 10:49 |
| awilkins | Guns. Lots of guns. | 10:50 |
| awilkins | I usually just tell them I already have a belief system (without going into detail). | 10:50 |
| kirrus | bigcalm: If they're witnesses, ask them how only 180,000 people are allowed into heaven, when there are 7 billion people on planet earth, a good percentage of which are belivers | 10:51 |
| kirrus | Not counting all who've died, of course. | 10:51 |
| kazade | bigcalm, answer the door naked | 10:52 |
| kazade | that'll work | 10:52 |
| bigcalm | Thing is, I don't know enough about the bibble | 10:52 |
| kirrus | kazade: answer to that one is, obviously, yes :P .. but the second would work as well | 10:52 |
| BigRedS | Nah, best way is to open the door and say "Shalom". They love it when you do that :) | 10:52 |
| kirrus | bigcalm: just calmly say that you'd like them to leave you alone please then, and they should. | 10:52 |
| kazade | bigcalm, answer everything they say with "But, why?" | 10:52 |
| andylockran | Heya guys and gals | 10:53 |
| andylockran | How's things> | 10:53 |
| andylockran | ? even | 10:53 |
| bigcalm | Warm and sunny | 10:54 |
| knightwise | Does anybody know if ANDROID devices are able to run webkit ? | 10:54 |
| kazade | knightwise, I'm pretty sure the built in browser is webkit | 10:54 |
| popey | bigcalm: friend of mine is a god botherer, he said they do maintain a list of properties not to visit. if you tell them to never call again, they will add you to the list | 10:55 |
| popey | like the Telephone Preference Service list ;) | 10:55 |
| knightwise | thanx kazade | 10:55 |
| bigcalm | \o/ | 10:55 |
| knightwise | :) | 10:56 |
| dogmatic69 | knightwise: opera is webkit, and that works im sure | 10:56 |
| knightwise | dogmatic69: cool , we"ll give it a try | 10:56 |
| kazade | dogmatic69, Opera is Presto, not webkit | 10:56 |
| bigcalm | popey: I live accross the road from the vicerage. You can tell how isn't local by the way they aproach the house | 10:57 |
| knightwise | our company had an ipad webb app developed , but i want to be able to make it accessable via ANDROID devices as well | 10:57 |
| dogmatic69 | kazade: so wikipedia lies? i dont belive that... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers#WebKit-based_browsers | 10:57 |
| kazade | dogmatic69, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers#Presto-based | 10:57 |
| kazade | wikipedia is confused :) | 10:57 |
| DJones | knightwise: Does this help http://developer.android.com/reference/android/webkit/WebView.html | 10:58 |
| dogmatic69 | kazade: you win, opera page has nothing on webkit | 10:58 |
| knightwise | ok , i'll be able to get more infor from here. | 10:58 |
| knightwise | Crud dogmatic69 | 10:58 |
| kazade | dogmatic69, I only knew because I used to think it was webkit too ;) | 10:58 |
| knightwise | So if we develop a webkit based site , we cant run them on android devices ? | 10:58 |
| s-fox | Hello :D | 10:58 |
| kazade | knightwise, you can, the default browser is webkit | 10:59 |
| dogmatic69 | knightwise: why would you build a 'webkit' based site? | 10:59 |
| kazade | and, yeah what dogmatic69 said | 10:59 |
| knightwise | Sales dudes here where all IPAD horny and had a web based ipad app built | 10:59 |
| dogmatic69 | you should be building a xhtml/html4/5 etc based site | 10:59 |
| knightwise | company policy is that it has to be cross platform compatible ( so also using 'non' apple devices) | 11:00 |
| knightwise | so now we are a bit fucked | 11:00 |
| knightwise | but i'll be right back , | 11:00 |
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| dogmatic69 | ok, i need to make a self signed ssl cert for my site... anyone have a easy tutorial i can go by | 11:01 |
| davmor2 | morning ubuntu lovers across the globe that congregate here :) | 11:03 |
| X3N | dogmatic69: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/284 | 11:03 |
| X3N | or any of the other one's from google :p | 11:05 |
| dogmatic69 | hehe | 11:05 |
| dogmatic69 | the problem is none of them are remotely similar | 11:06 |
| dogmatic69 | just found this one that looked nice and easy http://articles.slicehost.com/2007/11/26/ubuntu-gutsy-generating-a-self-signed-ssl-certificate | 11:06 |
| popey | dogmatic69: i would trust content on debian-administration over many other sites | 11:07 |
| popey | the site admin has a lot of clue | 11:07 |
| * dogmatic69 bookmarks | 11:07 | |
| dogmatic69 | :) thanks | 11:07 |
| oly | hi, anyone got unity working in seamless mode with in virtualbox ? | 11:08 |
| oly | i cant access the launcher, looking for a way to make it permenant like with gnome 2 bars | 11:08 |
| dogmatic69 | if i do ls -al, what does <something> -> <anotherthing.file> mean? | 11:13 |
| dogmatic69 | is that a link of some sort | 11:13 |
| X3N | yes | 11:13 |
| dogmatic69 | which is the 'actual' one? | 11:14 |
| bigcalm | dogmatic69: it's a symbolic link created by ln -s | 11:14 |
| bigcalm | dogmatic69: the actual file is the latter part | 11:14 |
| dogmatic69 | ah, thanks | 11:14 |
| krimzon2 | oly, iirc I installed unity-2d | 11:18 |
| krimzon2 | someone also suggested I installed virtualbox 4, so I downloaded oracle's proprietary version | 11:19 |
| oly | yeah i am using the propietry version, | 11:20 |
| oly | not installed unity-2d if that exists wonder why that not the fall back instead of gnome 2 | 11:20 |
| oly | will give it a try in a sec cheers, if anyone has any ideas for keeping the full version be nice to know as well :) | 11:21 |
| oly | it works till you go seamless, then i am guessing it just does not know what to bring to the front | 11:21 |
| krimzon2 | I remember now - I got a black screen a lot of the time until I installed unity-2d | 11:22 |
| krimzon2 | the main annoyance for me was that launcher items for programs on different workspaces weren't hidden | 11:24 |
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| * awilkins prefers the PUEL version of VirtualBox also | 11:27 | |
| chambo | Hi all. | 11:32 |
| chambo | I have a question about upgrading to Natty | 11:34 |
| chambo | Is it safe to run do-release-upgrade on ubuntu-server? | 11:35 |
| bigcalm | Is it a live and critical server? | 11:35 |
| chambo | It's live but I wouldn't say critical | 11:35 |
| chambo | Just a home server that I use for LDAP, files and a few other things | 11:36 |
| bigcalm | I tend to keep my servers on LTS releases | 11:36 |
| chambo | I wonder whether I would be better off with a fresh install | 11:36 |
| chambo | When the next LTS is out i'll likely put that on the server and stick with it | 11:39 |
| chambo | I think I'll leave it on 10.10 for now as I don't think I can face going through LDAP configuration again | 11:39 |
| popey | i keep my servers on LTS too | 11:43 |
| jonsaint | anyone about? | 11:44 |
| chambo | I guess if anything it stops those messages every 6 months saying "A new release is available" and then me spending 2 days fixing it after I broke it | 11:44 |
| jonsaint | has there been a fix yet for the keyring as im still having to log in twice everytime i turn on my pc? and also this latest release aint half slow!! | 11:45 |
| BigRedS | jonsaint: Is there a bug for it? | 11:45 |
| BigRedS | 'cause that'll be where they'll publish the release of a fix | 11:45 |
| jonsaint | im fairly new to ubuntu bigred so still learning the ropes | 11:46 |
| BigRedS | jonsaint: aha, no problem. If you go to bugs.launchpad.net, and have a search around you *may* find someone's already reported the bug | 11:48 |
| BigRedS | in which case you can click the 'this affects me' link and it'll send you updates | 11:48 |
| BigRedS | or, if not, you can file a bug, though I'm not sure what the recomended way of doing that is | 11:48 |
| BigRedS | I always have fun and games working out which package teh bug should be filed against | 11:48 |
| jonsaint | il have a look | 11:49 |
| jonsaint | will it be in the updates if they find a fix to the bug? | 11:49 |
| chambo | Does anyone here use a PCI gbit ethernet card? I'm affected by a kernel bug that causes lockups with my onboard card and would like to get gigabit speeds as I'm mounting home over ethernet | 11:50 |
| BigRedS | jonsaint: yeah | 11:50 |
| jonsaint | superb | 11:50 |
| BigRedS | but the more people who're down as affected by a given bug, the more developer time they point at it :) | 11:50 |
| jonsaint | cheers for the info. | 11:51 |
| awilkins | I tend to guess which package the bug is for... and it generally gets corrected anyway | 11:54 |
| MartijnVdS | awilkins: "It's for.. mplayer" "*bzzt* it's for totem" | 12:00 |
| chambo | Is there anyway I can get a list of my installed packages from apt (From my current install) then install 11.04 and then install all the packages in that list? | 12:02 |
| BigRedS | dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --get-selections | 12:02 |
| chambo | I'm not doing a straightforward upgrade because I need to install winXP | 12:02 |
| chambo | Thanks | 12:02 |
| BigRedS | do dpkg --get-selections > somefile | 12:03 |
| BigRedS | then get somefile to the new instrall | 12:03 |
| BigRedS | then do dpkg --set-selections < somefile | 12:03 |
| BigRedS | then apt-get upgrade | 12:03 |
| BigRedS | (or perhaps dist-upgrade). there's several docs on that around, though | 12:03 |
| chambo | Thanks! | 12:05 |
| chambo | Will I end up wiuth any trouble due to deprecated packages or things like that? | 12:05 |
| Laney | it's bad because it doesn't preserve auto-install markers | 12:24 |
| Laney | and it shows libraries in addition to applications | 12:24 |
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| popey | BAH! | 13:33 |
| mfraz74 | eh? | 13:33 |
| popey | mailing list | 13:33 |
| popey | great long thread helping someone get his wireless working, and before he tries the many suggestions he decides to go back to 10.04/10.10 | 13:33 |
| popey | waste of everyone's time. | 13:34 |
| mfraz74 | have to admit I've tried a few things to get my wi-fi working properly and nothing has worked | 13:34 |
| mfraz74 | not sure whether to go back to 10.10 or try a clean install of 11.04 | 13:35 |
| * brobostigon returns | 13:48 | |
| davmor2 | mfraz74: what chipset | 13:49 |
| mfraz74 | davmor2: atheros ar5b95 | 13:50 |
| mfraz74 | davmor2: it is using the ath9k driver | 13:50 |
| davmor2 | mfraz74: apply the proposed repo there is a kernel fix for it, in the mean time try doing sudo rfkill --unblock wifi | 13:51 |
| mfraz74 | i've applied the proposed repo, still doesn't work | 13:51 |
| davmor2 | mfraz74: :( | 13:51 |
| mfraz74 | if I use rsync to sync files between my server and netbook after a while the traffic slows to nothing | 13:52 |
| mfraz74 | worked fine in 10.10 | 13:52 |
| davmor2 | mfraz74: ah that's a different issue then | 13:53 |
| davmor2 | mfraz74: create a bug report and include the words Regression in it | 13:53 |
| mfraz74 | davmor2: bug #760304 is the one I've commented on | 13:56 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 760304 in linux (Ubuntu) "When copying a large set of file on an smb share over wifi, the wifi connection breaks (Regression) (dup-of: 735171)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760304 | 13:56 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 735171 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) "driver ath9k is too slow or not responding" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735171 | 13:56 |
| davmor2 | mfraz74: you might want to comment on the one it's duped to as your comments will not be seen on that secondary bug | 13:58 |
| davmor2 | mfraz74: ie re-write the comment on bug 735171 | 13:59 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 735171 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) "driver ath9k is too slow or not responding" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735171 | 13:59 |
| mfraz74 | I wrote comment 26 | 14:00 |
| davmor2 | mfraz74: ah yes just seen it | 14:02 |
| brobostigon | what does the comment right atthe end of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/715096 mean, please. | 14:07 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 715096 in linux (Ubuntu) "[i945gm] GPU lockup (ESR: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x02000011)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:07 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: that it's a confirmed bug? | 14:09 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: or that he posted a stable release update? on 04-27? | 14:09 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: i havent noticed any updates yet, really. | 14:09 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: SRUs can take a while | 14:10 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: enable the -proposed repository to get it early | 14:10 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: let me check. | 14:10 |
| davmor2 | brobostigon: If you look at the top now linux has been added to the bug and the linux part has been confirmed as being at fault too :) | 14:10 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: i dont have proposed, let me find a apt parameter. | 14:11 |
| brobostigon | davmor2: yes, kms, is related. | 14:12 |
| davmor2 | brobostigon: cli way "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" uncomment the proposed lines, gui way "open SC click on in the menu click Edit-> Software Sources type in your password then click on the updates tag and enable proposed and close" | 14:17 |
| davmor2 | s/tag/tab | 14:17 |
| brobostigon | davmor2: :) | 14:18 |
| MooDoo | *yawn* | 14:26 |
| * brobostigon scp's MooDoo a pot of coffee | 14:27 | |
| MooDoo | i need it | 14:28 |
| brobostigon | :) | 14:29 |
| * dwatkins gets a cup of coffee | 14:29 | |
| dwatkins | Clearly I was subconsciously influenced by this talk of coffee. | 14:30 |
| Azelphur | rsnapshots intervals are weird xD | 14:30 |
| Azelphur | the default "hourly" snapshot runs every 4 hours \o/ | 14:30 |
| dwatkins | 4 Vulcan hours, clearly. | 14:31 |
| Azelphur | indeed | 14:31 |
| livingdaylight | Avé Legionaries | 14:31 |
| brobostigon | lets hope proposed doesnt break anything. | 14:32 |
| dwatkins | Hail Caesar! | 14:32 |
| Azelphur | dwatkins: you should see the documentation, it's even more confusing xD | 14:32 |
| livingdaylight | lol | 14:32 |
| dwatkins | Azelphur: is it in English or Medieval Chinese? | 14:32 |
| Azelphur | it's like "interval hourly 6" "This will run backups every 4 hours so 6 times a day" | 14:32 |
| popey | no | 14:32 |
| popey | every 6 hours, 4 times a day | 14:32 |
| Azelphur | dwatkins: probably medieval chinese :D | 14:32 |
| popey | 0 */4 * * * /usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly | 14:33 |
| dwatkins | I'd like to learn Klingon just so I can translate the manual for the product I support into it. | 14:33 |
| livingdaylight | guys, I need some advice/input on these N455 dual-core atom processors.... John Lewis is doing these deals on hp notebooks for £250, which is tempting me into making a purchase. | 14:33 |
| Azelphur | popey: fun \o/ | 14:33 |
| popey | livingdaylight: url? | 14:33 |
| livingdaylight | http://tinyurl.com/6cbsak3 | 14:33 |
| livingdaylight | the tiny url is about as long as the normal url, lol | 14:34 |
| popey | :) | 14:34 |
| dwatkins | I use dft.ba for shortening URLs. | 14:34 |
| dwatkins | Don't Forget To Be Awesome ;) | 14:34 |
| * popey uses popey.me :) | 14:34 | |
| dwatkins | well, officially I use bit.ly ;) | 14:34 |
| livingdaylight | dwatkins, not heard of that one. Do they have a FF add-on? | 14:34 |
| livingdaylight | popey, what do you reckon, maestro? | 14:35 |
| Azelphur | dwatkins: that looks quite nice :p | 14:35 |
| popey | livingdaylight: do you really want a netbook? | 14:35 |
| dwatkins | livingdaylight: looks like it: https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/dftba-nerdfighters/ | 14:35 |
| davmor2 | livingdaylight: I see your nick but in my head I hear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzV4WGoyl4Q | 14:35 |
| dwatkins | livingdaylight: oh wait, that's probably a theme | 14:35 |
| dwatkins | davmor2: if that's the song I think it is, I hear it too | 14:35 |
| livingdaylight | popey, don't mind. For the money a dual-core sounds good. Certainly don't want a big clunky thing for moving around with | 14:36 |
| popey | you could get a 'proper' laptop for that money | 14:36 |
| Azelphur | livingdaylight: I'm trying to get my hands on an inspiron duo :D | 14:36 |
| popey | http://www.ebuyer.com/product/237715 | 14:36 |
| livingdaylight | popey, what's the difference between a proper laptop and a notebook? | 14:36 |
| popey | netbooks are smaller | 14:36 |
| popey | small screen and keyboard | 14:37 |
| popey | and often don't have many memory slots | 14:37 |
| Azelphur | some netbooks come with full pitch keyboards | 14:37 |
| livingdaylight | not seen proper laptops for that money unless they're old celeron processors. Maplin has a deal ( £275) for a lenovo 3000 (celeron 900) | 14:37 |
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| popey | livingdaylight: see that link i just posted | 14:37 |
| davmor2 | livingdaylight: for another £100 I got http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/hp-g62-451sa-core-i3-laptop-with-3gb-memory-black-08722513-pdt.html | 14:38 |
| popey | guess it depends what the use of the machine is :) | 14:38 |
| livingdaylight | davmor2, yea, another £100 :p | 14:39 |
| livingdaylight | popey, that lenovo looks pretty awesome for the same money | 14:39 |
| livingdaylight | thanks for the heads up! | 14:40 |
| livingdaylight | i3 processors are very entry level, eh? I was told they're equivalent of dual-core processors... need to get i5 to make a proper move at that level | 14:40 |
| DJones | livingdaylight: My i3 is dual core | 14:41 |
| DJones | popey: Thanks for the email reminder about ask mark, I'd forgotten about that | 14:43 |
| popey | np | 14:43 |
| livingdaylight | davmor2, £350 and up I would be looking for a dedicated graphics (nvidia) card; always better than onboard ones, right? | 14:43 |
| livingdaylight | popey, @ £409 I wouldn't have been interested because of the graphics card, but at its current reduction it makes it a very interesting proposition indeed. | 14:45 |
| davmor2 | livingdaylight: the nvidia one would still be on board ;) this has dedicated memory as well as shared, and it works lovely bar the wifi bleedin' Ralink | 14:45 |
| popey | yah, looks nice | 14:45 |
| livingdaylight | Just need to go to the shops and look at one in the "flesh" and test out the keyboard - always a decisive factor in my case | 14:45 |
| livingdaylight | so, many of them still don't come with hdmi outputs, which is annoying | 14:46 |
| livingdaylight | i love hooking up small laptops to a big screen | 14:47 |
| dwatkins | livingdaylight: that reminds me, I need a mini displayport to HDMI adapter :) | 14:50 |
| livingdaylight | dwatkins, is that vga to hdmi? | 14:50 |
| dwatkins | livingdaylight: no, it's for the little output port in the side of my Macbook Pro. | 14:51 |
| livingdaylight | ahh | 14:51 |
| dwatkins | VGA is analogue, but I'd like to keep the signal digital and take advantage of my 1980x1080 television. | 14:51 |
| MartijnVdS | DVI/HDMI \o/ | 14:51 |
| dwatkins | I sometimes connect my tiny ASUS Eee to the TV, which is fun. | 14:51 |
| dwatkins | That little netbook is now a media server, however. | 14:52 |
| livingdaylight | the lenovo does have hdmi out! ooooh.... | 14:53 |
| MartijnVdS | My PC has DVI, HDMI, VGA out | 14:53 |
| MartijnVdS | and apparently, it can do HDMI-CEC... | 14:53 |
| dwatkins | my docking station has two DVI outs for my work laptop | 14:54 |
| Azelphur | reflashed my routers firmware without dropping from IRC. Winning :p | 14:57 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: \o/ vps :P | 14:57 |
| Azelphur | MartijnVdS: nope, I didn't loose my connection from here to my dedi :P | 14:57 |
| Azelphur | my client remained connected | 14:57 |
| popey | bet it didnt :) | 14:58 |
| popey | bet it reconnected | 14:58 |
| Azelphur | yea, but it reconnected in a way that didn't actually loose my IRC connection | 14:58 |
| popey | indeed | 14:58 |
| Azelphur | so when the firmware reflash finished I just got a small flood on IRC | 14:58 |
| popey | nice when that happens | 14:58 |
| Azelphur | indeed :) | 14:58 |
| popey | i have accidentally slammed my laptop shut, causing it to suspend, opened up, reconnected to the network and ssh carried on | 14:59 |
| popey | win | 14:59 |
| Azelphur | haha | 14:59 |
| Azelphur | I just blank screenw hen I shut my laptops lid, it gets irritating trying to move to a different seat or something and having to awkwardly carry the laptop while it's open | 15:00 |
| dwatkins | yeah, I've taken advantage of the timeouts on ssh a couple times. | 15:01 |
| dwatkins | also, if you're quick when resuming, you can ~. to kill the session before it hangs. | 15:01 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: <enter>~. | 15:01 |
| MartijnVdS | or <enter>~~~~~~~~. for a 8-level edep ssh :) | 15:01 |
| dwatkins | haha, yeah - I've had ... urrrm ... many levels deep | 15:01 |
| Azelphur | What's the best / most compatible encryption mode for wifi now days? there's so many WPA2 options in DD-WRT | 15:02 |
| Azelphur | Personal, Enterprise, Personal Mixed, Enterprised Mixed. Which WPA2 do I want? :P | 15:03 |
| dwatkins | One with a long key. | 15:06 |
| dwatkins | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access#A_high-level_overview_of_WPA_terminology might help, Azelphur - I need to read this myself, probably. | 15:06 |
| dwatkins | I believe I use WPA-PSK at home. I suspect it's good enough unless you live next door to a hacker. | 15:07 |
| Azelphur | ah I see :) | 15:07 |
| Azelphur | yea, I probably want WPA2 Personal | 15:07 |
| Azelphur | maybe changed to WPA2 Personal Mixed if I find any devices not WPA2 capable in the hosue | 15:07 |
| dwatkins | Yeah, if you can, choose a nice long key, then save it to a text file somewhere you can easily get to after your hard disk dies and when friends bring round laptops. | 15:08 |
| Azelphur | dwatkins: I use keepass :D | 15:08 |
| Azelphur | text files are so retro | 15:08 |
| Azelphur | keepass+dropbox = win | 15:08 |
| dwatkins | ok, how do you get to that if your PC dies, though? :) | 15:08 |
| dwatkins | ah ok | 15:09 |
| Azelphur | protects against user error I believe too as you can rollback the file with dropbox | 15:09 |
| MartijnVdS | drawpbawx | 15:09 |
| dwatkins | but you might need to get online, that's my point. I was thinking of a USB key inna drawer. | 15:09 |
| dwatkins | just thinking of the possibilities, having had problems with my wifi router recently. | 15:09 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 15:10 |
| Azelphur | I'll always be able to get at my keepass :) | 15:10 |
| dwatkins | Even when MS stops your windows from working? | 15:10 |
| Azelphur | I don't have Windows? | 15:11 |
| dwatkins | ah ok, sorry, didn't see the ports | 15:11 |
| Azelphur | yea, keepass is like insanely cross platform | 15:11 |
| Azelphur | it's like there's cross platform, and then there's keepass x | 15:11 |
| Azelphur | xD* | 15:11 |
| dwatkins | do you have the data on multiple machines? | 15:11 |
| Azelphur | yes. | 15:11 |
| Azelphur | all my laptops, PC, and my android phone | 15:11 |
| dwatkins | right, cool - the name is justified, then | 15:11 |
| Azelphur | :) | 15:12 |
| Azelphur | I adopted it as a policy after someone broke into a service I used purely to get at my password | 15:12 |
| Azelphur | and then used that password to abuse other stuff I used, because I used the same password for everything :p | 15:12 |
| Azelphur | (I was only 13 or so at the time) | 15:13 |
| Azelphur | but now I have unique passwords for everything with keepass, much more secure | 15:13 |
| Azelphur | Anyone know much about wifi transmit power settings? | 15:14 |
| dwatkins | When I was 13 I invented a phrase which I now use as a password, but back then the closest thing I had to a password was my PIN number. | 15:15 |
| BigRedS | I worked for a while in a shop with no barcode scanner, but product codes on everything anyway | 15:16 |
| BigRedS | I have a good amount of memerised pseudo-random strings for concatenating into passwords :) | 15:16 |
| bigcalm | 321456 was my dad's old office number. Quite handy | 15:20 |
| Azelphur | haha, that was pretty obvious re wifi transmit power, just went and asked about it in #hamradio | 15:21 |
| dwatkins | I use old telephone numbers for that. | 15:21 |
| Azelphur | the answer is: Leave it at default most laptops broadcast at 50ish and the power needs to be hiked at both ends to make any difference \o/ | 15:22 |
| dwatkins | ahh yes | 15:24 |
| dwatkins | I installed a new graphics driver and now my XP laptop thinks it's 1992 and 16 colours are cool... well done IBM. | 15:24 |
| Azelphur | bigcalm: I have my phone hooked up to some VOIP magic I have like 300 break-in numbers all over the planet :D | 15:25 |
| * Azelphur is just a local call away :p | 15:25 | |
| Azelphur | my mobile is also a UK landline \o/ | 15:25 |
| dwatkins | nice | 15:25 |
| Azelphur | tis pretty cool, and free \o/ | 15:26 |
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| speedxco1e | hi all, I'm from sweden. How do I check the credit rating of an LTD.. I know it's Off topic, but I need the advice. Thanks | 15:39 |
| dogmatic69 | speedxco1e: http://tinyurl.com/637cm9v | 15:50 |
| livingdaylight | can we change the apps round on the Unity bar? | 16:03 |
| popey | the launcher? | 16:03 |
| popey | on the left | 16:03 |
| livingdaylight | yes | 16:03 |
| popey | yes | 16:03 |
| Darael | livingdaylight: Drag them /away/ from the launcher first, then up and down. | 16:04 |
| popey | hold mouse button down on one and drag to the right a bit | 16:04 |
| livingdaylight | i'm right-clicking and everything, but can't figure it out | 16:04 |
| livingdaylight | Darael, AhA! | 16:04 |
| Darael | Took me a while to work it out, too. | 16:04 |
| livingdaylight | wonderful! thx guys | 16:04 |
| livingdaylight | so, that's called the launch bar - not unity bar? | 16:05 |
| popey | Launcher | 16:05 |
| livingdaylight | k | 16:05 |
| Laney | grumble | 16:06 |
| popey | http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts/612 | 16:06 |
| popey | http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements/612 | 16:06 |
| popey | those might help livingdaylight | 16:06 |
| Laney | can i apply for a tax refund before the end of the financial year? | 16:06 |
| livingdaylight | thx | 16:06 |
| * Laney overpaid :( | 16:06 | |
| popey | http://askubuntu.com/questions/36274/tips-and-tricks-for-unity/612 | 16:06 |
| popey | that too | 16:06 |
| oimon | argh only just sat at my desk for the first time today :( | 16:07 |
| NET||abuse | hey guys. i'm using 10.10 netbook remix on my EeePc 1000h, but i've switched to regular gnome and just culled the bottom panel.. however. | 16:11 |
| NET||abuse | in this situation, i'm getting a problem with tomboy keyboard shortcut | 16:11 |
| NET||abuse | alt+F12 won't work, | 16:11 |
| suprengr | popey: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts/34876#34876 might be useful | 16:11 |
| NET||abuse | i've checked the gnome keyboard shortcuts and there's no conflict, and tomboy settings definately has the keyboard shortcut registered | 16:12 |
| oimon | NET||abuse: could be a compiz shortcut overriding it? | 16:17 |
| NET||abuse | hmm, | 16:17 |
| NET||abuse | how could i lis tout all the compiz shortcuts? | 16:17 |
| NET||abuse | would dread trawling through all ccsm sections to find it | 16:17 |
| oimon | at least check the general options | 16:17 |
| oimon | -> key bindings | 16:17 |
| oimon | in ccsm | 16:17 |
| oimon | i have some alt-f stuff | 16:18 |
| oimon | although alt-f12 works for me in lucid | 16:18 |
| NET||abuse | just had a look, don't see it. | 16:19 |
| NET||abuse | under general options->key bindings in ccsm | 16:19 |
| NET||abuse | nothing using F12 | 16:19 |
| NET||abuse | ALT+F12 | 16:19 |
| NET||abuse | fn+F12 does my volume, and that's working, so the key is fine :( 0 | 16:20 |
| NET||abuse | changing it to <Super>F12 didn't seem to work either. | 16:20 |
| NET||abuse | one other thing that i notice, i can't seem to enable virtual desktops on this laptop... something in the settings of ccsm won't let me increase the "number of desktops" setting | 16:23 |
| NET||abuse | Horizontal & Vertical] Virtual Size and | 16:24 |
| NET||abuse | [Horizontal | Vertical] Virtual Size are set | 16:24 |
| NET||abuse | but it won' tincrease beyond 1 for Number of Desktops | 16:24 |
| NET||abuse | any reason the netbook remix installer would limit this by default? | 16:25 |
| oimon | tbh 10.10 netbook remix is by far the worst linux experience i've had in years | 16:25 |
| oimon | half-baked isn't the word | 16:25 |
| NET||abuse | it's been fine for me other than these 2 things :) | 16:25 |
| NET||abuse | oimon, really? | 16:25 |
| popey | friend of mine runs it on his netbook just fine | 16:26 |
| NET||abuse | that said, i'm left behind the netboo0k remix desktop setup, completely abandoned it and returned to plain on gnome | 16:26 |
| oimon | ah ok i missed that bit | 16:26 |
| NET||abuse | ah well, i blame popey.. | 16:27 |
| popey | wise. | 16:27 |
| NET||abuse | :P | 16:27 |
| NET||abuse | not to worry, i've gone this long with this bug, i can live with it for now | 16:28 |
| NET||abuse | updating to 11.04 at some point might reset some of my needs, unity or gnome 3.... and i might get a new laptop (finally after 4 years) | 16:28 |
| NET||abuse | as i'm now no-longer employed but freelancing again :) - | 16:28 |
| oimon | NET||abuse: you could always try creating a test user account on the netbook and see if that works with fresh settings | 16:29 |
| NET||abuse | yeh, good idea, i'll try that later tonight | 16:29 |
| NET||abuse | right, back to the grind stone for me | 16:29 |
| NET||abuse | gotta do my first ever OO based javascript app :) | 16:29 |
| chambo | BigRedS, Thanks for the tip - A fresh install and it's like nothing ever happened :) | 16:31 |
| Darael | IIRC changing the number of desktops never worked for me in Compiz in Maverick. It does in Natty, though. Just FYI, NET||abuse. | 16:32 |
| NET||abuse | Darael, really? hmmm | 16:32 |
| chambo | I just did a fresh install of Natty and somethign which never worked before (Changing number of desktops) works for me now too | 16:33 |
| chambo | And I'm also a big fan of the "indicator applet complete" | 16:34 |
| NET||abuse | i've used 10.10 on a desktop and it worked fine i think.. or did i never update from 10.04 on that desktop?.. hmm, have to think about that. | 16:34 |
| NET||abuse | chambo, what do you mean by that? | 16:35 |
| NET||abuse | complete as opposed to what? | 16:35 |
| chambo | Don't know that's just the name of it in the add to panel dialog | 16:35 |
| NET||abuse | oh, i see, | 16:36 |
| NET||abuse | there's appmenu, session or complete.. never noticed that before | 16:36 |
| NET||abuse | my install uses -session right now, what's the difference? | 16:36 |
| chambo | They replaced the gnome clock | 16:36 |
| chambo | Which I've always had problems with | 16:36 |
| chambo | It also has sound and net properties there but not sure if that is in the session applet | 16:37 |
| Darael | It took me a while to work out how to get the indicator clock in the format I like (had to use dconf-editor since I want short ISO-style dates, which aren't part of my locale, but it's just the tool that's changed (gconf-editor for the gnome clock)) | 16:38 |
| fujisan | where can i find the desktop effects in 11.04 ? | 17:01 |
| fujisan | Hello btw :< | 17:01 |
| KrisDouglas | Hello, I have a serious problem with an Ubuntu web server. A permission was changed somewhere, and the resulting problem is that no matter how much I chown files and update permissions- apache2 still says forbidden. | 17:09 |
| SuperMatt | what are the current permissions on the file? | 17:10 |
| SuperMatt | also: are you running selinux? | 17:10 |
| BigRedS | KrisDouglas: are you sure the change isn't to the Apache config? | 17:11 |
| SuperMatt | and are you using facls? | 17:11 |
| KrisDouglas | BigRedS, I assume not. Basically one of my colleagues stupidly tried to mount the server as a folder from the Connect to Server menu, and then share the directory with samba. | 17:12 |
| KrisDouglas | --- so he could mount the server as a drive on a WINDOWS pc. | 17:12 |
| KrisDouglas | but the / folder was mounted | 17:12 |
| KrisDouglas | am I safe assuming the install is hosed? :P | 17:12 |
| BigRedS | KrisDouglas: no, it probably isn't | 17:14 |
| BigRedS | I'm havign trouble working out what this guy did, though | 17:15 |
| KrisDouglas | BigRedS, I am quite glad to hear that. I have noticed another problem. When trying to use sudo it says permission denied on the sudoers file. Luckily had root though | 17:15 |
| BigRedS | he tried to mount some part of teh FS over nfs? smb? | 17:15 |
| BigRedS | I'm not sure why that would change any permissions automagtically | 17:15 |
| KrisDouglas | he mounted / of the office app server using SSH to a GVFS folder | 17:15 |
| KrisDouglas | and then shared the GVFS folder across the network | 17:16 |
| BigRedS | and then did some chowning adn chmodding? | 17:16 |
| KrisDouglas | Not that I am aware. It just stopped working after he shared the directory | 17:16 |
| KrisDouglas | but now permissions on the sudoers file, and other things aren't right | 17:17 |
| BigRedS | that's a bit weird | 17:17 |
| KrisDouglas | but ls -al shows they are owned by the correct users. | 17:17 |
| KrisDouglas | it's very weird. | 17:17 |
| KrisDouglas | Not seen it before. | 17:17 |
| hamitron | permissions on the sudoers file? | 17:17 |
| KrisDouglas | owned by root | 17:18 |
| KrisDouglas | -r--r----- | 17:18 |
| BigRedS | er, that'd be wrong | 17:18 |
| BigRedS | *someone* needs to be allowed to write to it | 17:18 |
| KrisDouglas | Oh shit. | 17:18 |
| KrisDouglas | i mean | 17:19 |
| KrisDouglas | bums. | 17:19 |
| KrisDouglas | sorry | 17:19 |
| BigRedS | I did once cobble together a script to get permissons off a backup and apply them to the files in-place | 17:19 |
| BigRedS | but, er, it didn't work that well. You'll probably find a reinstall is the path of least resistance | 17:19 |
| hamitron | mine is 440 too | 17:19 |
| hamitron | my sudoers file | 17:20 |
| KrisDouglas | if I change the permissions to 0440 (I am guessing?) I get permission denied. | 17:20 |
| hamitron | but root can write anything anyway | 17:20 |
| BigRedS | ooh | 17:20 |
| BigRedS | not if it doesn't have rights to | 17:21 |
| KrisDouglas | I am logged in as root at the moment | 17:21 |
| KrisDouglas | (don't ask) | 17:21 |
| hamitron | chmod 440 /etc/sudoers | 17:21 |
| hamitron | doesn't work? | 17:22 |
| hamitron | :| | 17:22 |
| KrisDouglas | nope | 17:22 |
| kirrus | KrisDouglas: do lsattr /etc/sudoers | 17:22 |
| KrisDouglas | -----------------e- | 17:23 |
| kirrus | Ok, that's normal. You can set a file to be imutable (old filesystem thing), which would refuse all edits.. but that's not it :( | 17:23 |
| kirrus | KrisDouglas: is your filesystem read-only? | 17:23 |
| KrisDouglas | it is not mounted as RO | 17:24 |
| KrisDouglas | and I can make and change files. | 17:24 |
| hamitron | what does that "e" mean? | 17:24 |
| KrisDouglas | Not a clue in hell | 17:25 |
| hamitron | have you tried running chmod on another file? | 17:25 |
| KrisDouglas | I can change the permissions of the other file | 17:26 |
| KrisDouglas | of an other file* | 17:26 |
| fujisan | same as it ever was | 17:27 |
| fujisan | there is water at the bottom of the ocean | 17:27 |
| KrisDouglas | I am beginning to think I should just export the databases and web data and reinstall the server | 17:28 |
| hamitron | is root still your super-user? | 17:29 |
| KrisDouglas | yes. | 17:29 |
| fujisan | has anyone sung this in a song yet: " my head contains cookie crumbs, google cookie crumbs for it's infinite cache and my cookie crumbs are part of the quantum entangled cognition of humanitas" | 17:30 |
| fujisan | </question> | 17:30 |
| hamitron | erm, no? ;) | 17:31 |
| fujisan | i feel like someone from alzheimer to everything i know my brain contains cookies for google queries :-x | 17:31 |
| fujisan | alzheimer being the future place i never hope to visit :< | 17:32 |
| kirrus | KrisDouglas: try looking through the logs (/var/log/syslog) etc.. other than that, I guess reinstall would be the quickest way to get it back | 17:32 |
| fujisan | am i peculiar? | 17:32 |
| fujisan | oh sorry where is the offtopic channel to this channel? | 17:33 |
| fujisan | i just realized this might be ontopic sorry | 17:33 |
| fujisan | :/ | 17:33 |
| KrisDouglas | kirrus, Nothing in the logs, I had a nose through them before. | 17:33 |
| kirrus | fujisan: there's #ubuntu-offtopic, but this channel does go offtopic from time to time, not a problem unless popey or someone says it is :) | 17:34 |
| fujisan | oh ok | 17:34 |
| fujisan | thanks | 17:34 |
| bigcalm | cake and kittens! | 17:34 |
| KrisDouglas | My last question, bit of a mysql one here- Is there a way to backup mysql without being able to access the client (for obvious reasons) | 17:34 |
| kirrus | Chocolate cake? | 17:34 |
| hamitron | but more cake than kitten | 17:34 |
| hamitron | ;/ | 17:34 |
| kirrus | KrisDouglas: copy /var/lib/mysql/ | 17:34 |
| kirrus | that contains all the databases | 17:35 |
| fujisan | korean kitten cake kirrus? | 17:35 |
| bigcalm | KrisDouglas: phpmyadmin | 17:35 |
| kirrus | make sure you shut down mysql first | 17:35 |
| kirrus | Or, yeah, phpMyAdmin.. or mysqldump on the command line, on the server? | 17:35 |
| fujisan | i had it once it reminds me of meatloaf | 17:35 |
| kirrus | fujisan: ugh | 17:35 |
| KrisDouglas | bigcalm, mysql is broken :) mysqldump is broken | 17:35 |
| fujisan | :> | 17:35 |
| bigcalm | KrisDouglas: what does work? | 17:36 |
| fujisan | i had win7 on my bedroom pc but it was kinda slow so i put 11.04 on it | 17:36 |
| kirrus | KrisDouglas: make sure it's stopped, and copying the files is the best you'll get. Hope you don't use InnoDB, because that doesn't like being copied | 17:36 |
| KrisDouglas | not a lot :) | 17:36 |
| KrisDouglas | I dislike innodb :) | 17:36 |
| fujisan | since i only do simply stuff on it anyways perfect for ubuntu | 17:36 |
| bigcalm | myisam is the default | 17:36 |
| kirrus | When you get to the new install, just put the files back on top of /var/lib/mysql/ | 17:36 |
| fujisan | how do i install spotify on 11.04 same as 10.10? | 17:36 |
| KrisDouglas | will they automatically kick in, kirrus? | 17:36 |
| kirrus | Aye.. for now. The MySQL devs want to change InnoDB to the default in the next major release | 17:37 |
| bigcalm | Hohum | 17:37 |
| kirrus | KrisDouglas: yes. Make sure MySQL is stopped, and overwrite everything. It includes all your privilage tables and host permissions | 17:37 |
| KrisDouglas | thank you :) | 17:37 |
| fujisan | yvw | 17:38 |
| KrisDouglas | You are a strange creature fujisan | 17:38 |
| fujisan | welcome you are :) | 17:38 |
| kirrus | fujisan: yes, just follow spotify's instructions. Still works after a release upgrade as well | 17:38 |
| fujisan | ye that's what happens when you live vicariously through television :-x | 17:39 |
| fujisan | ok ty kirrus | 17:39 |
| fujisan | 10.10 upgrade to 11.04 was a complete disaster btw had to do a clean install | 17:39 |
| hamitron | look on the bright side, fresh installs are nice | 17:40 |
| hamitron | :) | 17:40 |
| davmor2 | fujisan: should of asked me I'd of told you to do a fresh install :D | 17:41 |
| fujisan | oh noes i can't find my sources list in 11.04 does anyone know how i can get it back? | 17:43 |
| KrisDouglas | should be in /etc/apt/sources.list | 17:43 |
| KrisDouglas | i can pastebin you mine if you need it | 17:43 |
| fujisan | i mean the menu entry for it | 17:43 |
| fujisan | so you will get all that gui | 17:44 |
| KrisDouglas | Oh | 17:44 |
| KrisDouglas | Open software centre | 17:44 |
| KrisDouglas | and go to edit>software sources | 17:45 |
| KrisDouglas | similar in synaptic. | 17:45 |
| fujisan | ok ty | 17:45 |
| KrisDouglas | took me about a week to notice that :D | 17:45 |
| fujisan | ye very useful to know | 17:46 |
| KrisDouglas | nearly ten to six and I'm still in the office :( | 17:47 |
| fujisan | im listening to a song about the spelling bee aint life grand :( | 17:48 |
| fujisan | Failed to fetch http://repository.spotify.com/dists/stable/non-free/source/Sources 404 Not Found << uhm something went wrong :/ | 17:49 |
| KrisDouglas | I know how the permissions got screwed | 17:49 |
| fujisan | hmz | 17:50 |
| KrisDouglas | "Nautilus needs to add some permissions to your folder to share it" he clicked add perms. | 17:50 |
| kirrus | fujisan: Spotify doesn't have a source repository? | 17:53 |
| fujisan | deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free | 17:54 |
| fujisan | that should be it according to their site | 17:54 |
| kirrus | Do you have a deb-src line in your /etc/apt/sources.list next to spotify? | 17:55 |
| fujisan | i dunno i am not working directly with sources.list | 17:56 |
| KrisDouglas | check, because it makes for a really annoying error, fujisan | 17:56 |
| KrisDouglas | as a matter of fact, I had to add Spotify manually to the list because the sources editor didn't seem to add it. | 17:57 |
| fujisan | cant find the file sources.list | 17:57 |
| KrisDouglas | just stick "deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free" at the bottom without quotes. | 17:58 |
| fujisan | ok when i open sources.list i just get the gui again from software center | 17:59 |
| KrisDouglas | open a terminal from applications>accessories | 18:00 |
| KrisDouglas | and then type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list | 18:00 |
| fujisan | now i get some error box saying: "Could not download all repository indexes" | 18:01 |
| fujisan | ok did like you said and added it manually and i am getting the same error | 18:03 |
| fujisan | ok it seems to install irregardless :> | 18:04 |
| fujisan | hmz it installed just fine and is currently running dunno why it gave me that error :/ | 18:05 |
| fujisan | meaning it would have worked all along :> | 18:05 |
| fujisan | well thanks KrisDouglas :) | 18:06 |
| fujisan | or maybe adding that gpg-key did the trick not sure | 18:06 |
| KrisDouglas | you need the key too | 18:12 |
| KrisDouglas | but it will go in the list with or without the key | 18:12 |
| fujisan | which output module is best again for audio pulse or alsa? | 18:19 |
| KrisDouglas | pulse imo. | 18:20 |
| KrisDouglas | but they talk to eachother anyway | 18:20 |
| fujisan | ok ty | 18:20 |
| fujisan | i had the same error again with the audio stopping :/ | 18:20 |
| KrisDouglas | Which one is that? | 18:21 |
| fujisan | it happens when i select pulse as well | 18:21 |
| fujisan | that the audio stops playing when i play a video | 18:21 |
| KrisDouglas | in what appa? | 18:24 |
| KrisDouglas | app?* | 18:24 |
| fujisan | vlc | 18:24 |
| fujisan | set it on pulse audio in output module in preferences | 18:24 |
| fujisan | already a | 18:24 |
| fujisan | nd also alsa | 18:24 |
| KrisDouglas | peculiar | 18:24 |
| fujisan | the error is persistent | 18:24 |
| fujisan | i am trying to change the hardware profile in Sound Preferences now | 18:25 |
| Azelphur | ali1234: you have a inspiron duo right? have you tried minecraft on it? :P | 18:57 |
| grogoreo | hi | 19:09 |
| grogoreo | I've installed Apache and PHP but when I go onto any .php file firefox just pops up to download the file. I've enabled the php module and restarted. | 19:10 |
| dwatkins | grogoreo: did you install mod-php? | 19:11 |
| grogoreo | dwatkins, ye | 19:19 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: no i dont have one of those | 19:19 |
| Azelphur | oh :( | 19:19 |
| MichealH | grogoreo, How did you install it? tasksel? | 19:20 |
| grogoreo | MichealH, synaptic | 19:20 |
| MichealH | Hmm | 19:21 |
| MichealH | Ive only ever did mine with tasksel _> LAMP server | 19:21 |
| dwatkins | grogoreo: you may need to create symlinks to the php modules in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ from the mods-available directory, but using tasksel is probably easier. | 19:22 |
| dwatkins | I didn't need to install the symlinks on my server, and it loads php ok after I install libapache2-mod-php5 and its dependencies | 19:22 |
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| Azelphur | Hmm, I'm trying to run bitcoin but it just hangs when I try and launch it | 20:35 |
| popey | Azelphur: bug 758398 | 20:39 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 758398 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Bitcoin top-level window unmapped" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758398 | 20:39 |
| Azelphur | popey: nice | 20:39 |
| popey | Azelphur: it runs with compiz off, or you can get a patched version | 20:51 |
| Azelphur | popey: already patched and GPU mining | 20:58 |
| popey | you dont need the gui client for GPU mining | 20:59 |
| Azelphur | popey: I know, but I like to see what's going on | 21:01 |
| popey | heh | 21:01 |
| popey | what gpu miner you using? | 21:01 |
| Azelphur | poclbm.py | 21:02 |
| popey | ah | 21:03 |
| popey | I'm using the diablominer | 21:03 |
| Azelphur | popey: fun, any better/will it work with nvidia? | 21:05 |
| gord | minecraft is my gpu miner :( | 21:05 |
| popey | dunno | 21:05 |
| popey | i only have nvidia, so yeah | 21:05 |
| Azelphur | fun | 21:05 |
| popey | i also use deepbit so get somewhat more instant results :D | 21:05 |
| gord | gotten any coins? | 21:06 |
| popey | yes | 21:06 |
| gord | interesting, any real world value? | 21:07 |
| popey | yes :) | 21:09 |
| gord | iiiinteresting. can i become a quite literal software pirate and hack into peoples gpu mining farms to steal all their coins? | 21:11 |
| popey | only if you have a parrot | 21:11 |
| jibadeeha | what is GPU mining is it mining as in data mining using GPU instead of CPU? | 21:12 |
| popey | its doing complex mathematical equasions using the GPU | 21:13 |
| popey | which is good at that | 21:13 |
| popey | -typos | 21:13 |
| popey | mining specifically means looking for bitcoins | 21:13 |
| jibadeeha | thanks popey - had not heard of it until now | 21:13 |
| gord | http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_newsroom/blog/2011/05/04/intel-reinvents-transistors-using-new-3-d-structure - iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting | 21:13 |
| popey | google bitcoin :) | 21:13 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | "More than 6 million 22nm Tri-Gate transistors could fit in the period at the end of this sentence." | 21:16 |
| Azelphur | http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/05/04/1749215/Sony-Officially-Blames-Anonymous-For-PSN-Hack lolol | 21:17 |
| Azelphur | when anonymous takes credit, it's maintenance. When anonymous states "It wasn't us", it's anonymous :P | 21:17 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Just wait until ARM work out how to employ tri-gate technology. | 21:17 |
| * popey notes that wgetting an iso from releases.ubuntu.com now redirects to a cloudfront content delivery network | 21:18 | |
| * popey suspects this may have been wise a week or so ago :) | 21:18 | |
| Azelphur | popey: my GTX 570 is doing 109mhash/sec and my 8800GT is doing 22khash/sec :D | 21:25 |
| Azelphur | and I have them both rate limited such that desktop things run smooth | 21:25 |
| gord | huh... maybe apt repos should go in cloud stuff? | 21:26 |
| gord | ooooh updates via ubuntu one anyone? ;) | 21:26 |
| Azelphur | popey: according to bitcoinx.com my projected bitcoin profit is around 40BTC/mo ($145) :D | 21:44 |
| popey | nice | 21:44 |
| popey | whats the electricity bill to run those GPUs at fill tilt? | 21:44 |
| Azelphur | dunno :P | 21:44 |
| Azelphur | popey: less than $145, that's for sure | 21:45 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Alan Bell] Taking Notes at UDS - http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/05/04/taking-notes/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=taking-notes | 22:19 |
| popey | AlanBell: typo in your blog post, 10.10 should be 11.10 | 23:04 |
| AlanBell | thanks | 23:12 |
| popey | AlanBell: is there any reason not to show the nicknames of people editing? | 23:14 |
| AlanBell | no | 23:15 |
| AlanBell | the idea is to do so | 23:15 |
| popey | good stuff | 23:15 |
| popey | i look forward to that :) | 23:15 |
| AlanBell | but without the chat window or any other UI | 23:15 |
| AlanBell | so take this: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-o-community-o-unity-developer-participation | 23:16 |
| AlanBell | remove the bottom right pane so the list of names goes all the way down the right hand side | 23:16 |
| popey | yeah | 23:16 |
| popey | sounds great | 23:16 |
| AlanBell | and remove everything above the list of names and the pad itself | 23:16 |
| bigcalm | popey: new hardware has been dispatched or installed? | 23:21 |
| popey | i havent installed it yet | 23:21 |
| bigcalm | :O | 23:22 |
| popey | i have it here | 23:22 |
| bigcalm | popey: I think you need to hand in your geek licence | 23:22 |
| popey | :) | 23:22 |
| popey | well, i have been using the internet :) | 23:22 |
| popey | bah | 23:23 |
| popey | i copied some GB to a usb stick then shutdown the pc | 23:23 |
| popey | its still shutting down | 23:23 |
| popey | well, writing to the usb stick! | 23:23 |
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