Error: you can\'t do this right now

[00:03] this is completely true [00:03] i don't know why they even bother putting an OS [00:03] the first thing anyone with any sense does is wipe it and start again [00:03] wait, Packard Bell is still around? I thought HP killed that brand [00:04] Not HP sorry, Acer* [00:30] hello? [01:11] Hi [01:12] anyone around? :] [04:33] hooaammm,, [06:25] morning all [06:25] \o [06:38] Morning [06:46] happy starwars day everyone [06:47] May the fourth be with you [06:47] ... === lubotu3` is now known as lubotu3 [07:52] AlanBell, its starwars day? [07:54] may the fourth [07:54] oh [07:55] i get it [08:15] heh I got a text at midnight about that [08:16] apparently he always forgets every 4th of may about it... and this was the first time he remembered on time [08:16] so he thought he'd share that with me at midnight... :/ lol [08:22] Morning all [08:34] good morning everyone. [08:35] morning brobostigon [08:35] Hi brobostigon Pendulum [08:36] morning Pendulum and DJones :) [08:36] hi DJones :) [08:48] hi [08:49] I have to always do insmod module.ko, I have added it in /etc/modules and /etc/rc.local [08:49] morning kaushal [08:49] still it does not work [08:49] brobostigon: Good Morning [08:53] :) [08:55] I think I might have to test gnome-shell [08:55] :) [08:57] hello all [08:58] morning MooDoo :) [08:59] :D [09:01] checking again for the query ? [09:16] morning everyone [09:17] Morning [09:17] morning peoples [09:18] hey guyz [09:18] could i borrow some of your wisdom again ? [09:19] Mornin friends [09:20] ps : i also want you guyz to know i wrote up an article about you guys helping me with the podcast script . its kind of an 'epic story' and its featured in the latest knightcast podcast (episode 52) [09:22] i've been tinkering with my "podcatching scritp' some more but seem to run into an odd problem when it comes to using Rsync [09:23] i've posted it on the ubuntu forums but haven't had any reply yet , perhaps you guyz know what could be wrong : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1699708&highlight=knightwise&page=2 [09:24] The script scans a directory (with subdirectories) that hold all my podcasts. [09:24] it selects the latest podcast added and copies it over to a directory (with the cp command) [09:24] now i changed the cp command for an Rsync command (because i would like to use dropbox as a middle man) to my dropbox foder [09:25] it selects the podcasts , rsyncs them over .. and then suddenly deletes ALL of them again and copies 3 more. [09:25] realy strange [09:33] Any idea when Launchpad is coming back up? [09:33] an hour or so [09:34] Found my first non-Unity gripe with Natty :-( [09:35] awilkins: the 600 security updates it already has? [09:35] MartijnVdS, No, this is an audio driver problem [09:35] there are always a lot of updates shortly after release [09:35] Mic input isn't working at all ; was previously suffering from work-around-able bug #593018 [09:35] there are a few weeks where no uploads are done whilst testing happens. so we prepare 0-day SRU's [09:36] 'Error: \n\n \n Error: you can\'t do this right now\n \n\n \n \n\n \n \n cool [09:36] the bot broke [09:36] launchpad is down remember [09:36] it is? [09:36] I think it's more LP is down and the API doesn't distinguish between RO and RW method calls [09:38] The workaround no longer works ; mic input can't be coaxed into working. Can't Skype, can't work. Might have to go back to Maverick ( ) [09:39] Or boot into Windows for conference calling but that's a PITA because then I don't have access to my proper working environment [09:41] google is awesome, claimed i was signed in and signed out on the same page [09:42] That thing where you have a list of removable media, including unmounted ones, in GNOME, and you can select one and it will mount it and show it in Nautilus, is there an equivalent in Unity? [09:44] I have a drive that isn't in the fstab on a SATA port (in a removable caddy) ; doesn't count as a "removable" drive because it's SATA so it doesn't just mount when you socket it, but I can't find a place to mount it from the GUI [09:45] awilkins: palimpsest? [09:45] awilkins: aka the disk utility? [09:46] MartijnVdS, That works, not nearly as convenient as it could be though. [09:53] Aha, LP arises [09:58] arghh, too much package breakage, tht i cant fix, i think i will do a reinstall :( [09:58] Buenos días a todos! === serial is now known as Guest72551 [10:10] moin moin [10:11] moin dwatkins [10:18] Good morning kids :) [10:18] Good morning Bigcalm [10:19] [Phil Bull] Cosmology Meets Machine Learning - http://philbull.livejournal.com/59661.html [10:21] hi all. does anyone know if theres a patch yet for the keyring because since upgrading i have to enter it twice! === dogmatic69_ is now known as dogmatic69 === odysseus is now known as Guest71361 [10:28] jonsaint, disable it in startup applications settings, win key + type startup [10:48] Some people 'spreading the word of god' are about to knock on my door. Apart from ignoring the door, what's the best way to deal with them? [10:49] invite them in, and ask them questions like "Could God create a rock so big that he couldn't lift it" etc. [10:50] Guns. Lots of guns. [10:50] I usually just tell them I already have a belief system (without going into detail). [10:51] bigcalm: If they're witnesses, ask them how only 180,000 people are allowed into heaven, when there are 7 billion people on planet earth, a good percentage of which are belivers [10:51] Not counting all who've died, of course. [10:52] bigcalm, answer the door naked [10:52] that'll work [10:52] Thing is, I don't know enough about the bibble [10:52] kazade: answer to that one is, obviously, yes :P .. but the second would work as well [10:52] Nah, best way is to open the door and say "Shalom". They love it when you do that :) [10:52] bigcalm: just calmly say that you'd like them to leave you alone please then, and they should. [10:52] bigcalm, answer everything they say with "But, why?" [10:53] Heya guys and gals [10:53] How's things> [10:53] ? even [10:54] Warm and sunny [10:54] Does anybody know if ANDROID devices are able to run webkit ? [10:54] knightwise, I'm pretty sure the built in browser is webkit [10:55] bigcalm: friend of mine is a god botherer, he said they do maintain a list of properties not to visit. if you tell them to never call again, they will add you to the list [10:55] like the Telephone Preference Service list ;) [10:55] thanx kazade [10:55] \o/ [10:56] :) [10:56] knightwise: opera is webkit, and that works im sure [10:56] dogmatic69: cool , we"ll give it a try [10:56] dogmatic69, Opera is Presto, not webkit [10:57] popey: I live accross the road from the vicerage. You can tell how isn't local by the way they aproach the house [10:57] our company had an ipad webb app developed , but i want to be able to make it accessable via ANDROID devices as well [10:57] kazade: so wikipedia lies? i dont belive that... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers#WebKit-based_browsers [10:57] dogmatic69, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers#Presto-based [10:57] wikipedia is confused :) [10:58] knightwise: Does this help http://developer.android.com/reference/android/webkit/WebView.html [10:58] kazade: you win, opera page has nothing on webkit [10:58] ok , i'll be able to get more infor from here. [10:58] Crud dogmatic69 [10:58] dogmatic69, I only knew because I used to think it was webkit too ;) [10:58] So if we develop a webkit based site , we cant run them on android devices ? [10:58] Hello :D [10:59] knightwise, you can, the default browser is webkit [10:59] knightwise: why would you build a 'webkit' based site? [10:59] and, yeah what dogmatic69 said [10:59] Sales dudes here where all IPAD horny and had a web based ipad app built [10:59] you should be building a xhtml/html4/5 etc based site [11:00] company policy is that it has to be cross platform compatible ( so also using 'non' apple devices) [11:00] so now we are a bit fucked [11:00] but i'll be right back , === knightwise is now known as Knightlunch [11:01] ok, i need to make a self signed ssl cert for my site... anyone have a easy tutorial i can go by [11:03] morning ubuntu lovers across the globe that congregate here :) [11:03] dogmatic69: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/284 [11:05] or any of the other one's from google :p [11:05] hehe [11:06] the problem is none of them are remotely similar [11:06] just found this one that looked nice and easy http://articles.slicehost.com/2007/11/26/ubuntu-gutsy-generating-a-self-signed-ssl-certificate [11:07] dogmatic69: i would trust content on debian-administration over many other sites [11:07] the site admin has a lot of clue [11:07] * dogmatic69 bookmarks [11:07] :) thanks [11:08] hi, anyone got unity working in seamless mode with in virtualbox ? [11:08] i cant access the launcher, looking for a way to make it permenant like with gnome 2 bars [11:13] if i do ls -al, what does -> mean? [11:13] is that a link of some sort [11:13] yes [11:14] which is the 'actual' one? [11:14] dogmatic69: it's a symbolic link created by ln -s [11:14] dogmatic69: the actual file is the latter part [11:14] ah, thanks [11:18] oly, iirc I installed unity-2d [11:19] someone also suggested I installed virtualbox 4, so I downloaded oracle's proprietary version [11:20] yeah i am using the propietry version, [11:20] not installed unity-2d if that exists wonder why that not the fall back instead of gnome 2 [11:21] will give it a try in a sec cheers, if anyone has any ideas for keeping the full version be nice to know as well :) [11:21] it works till you go seamless, then i am guessing it just does not know what to bring to the front [11:22] I remember now - I got a black screen a lot of the time until I installed unity-2d [11:24] the main annoyance for me was that launcher items for programs on different workspaces weren't hidden === serial is now known as Guest28032 [11:27] * awilkins prefers the PUEL version of VirtualBox also [11:32] Hi all. [11:34] I have a question about upgrading to Natty [11:35] Is it safe to run do-release-upgrade on ubuntu-server? [11:35] Is it a live and critical server? [11:35] It's live but I wouldn't say critical [11:36] Just a home server that I use for LDAP, files and a few other things [11:36] I tend to keep my servers on LTS releases [11:36] I wonder whether I would be better off with a fresh install [11:39] When the next LTS is out i'll likely put that on the server and stick with it [11:39] I think I'll leave it on 10.10 for now as I don't think I can face going through LDAP configuration again [11:43] i keep my servers on LTS too [11:44] anyone about? [11:44] I guess if anything it stops those messages every 6 months saying "A new release is available" and then me spending 2 days fixing it after I broke it [11:45] has there been a fix yet for the keyring as im still having to log in twice everytime i turn on my pc? and also this latest release aint half slow!! [11:45] jonsaint: Is there a bug for it? [11:45] 'cause that'll be where they'll publish the release of a fix [11:46] im fairly new to ubuntu bigred so still learning the ropes [11:48] jonsaint: aha, no problem. If you go to bugs.launchpad.net, and have a search around you *may* find someone's already reported the bug [11:48] in which case you can click the 'this affects me' link and it'll send you updates [11:48] or, if not, you can file a bug, though I'm not sure what the recomended way of doing that is [11:48] I always have fun and games working out which package teh bug should be filed against [11:49] il have a look [11:49] will it be in the updates if they find a fix to the bug? [11:50] Does anyone here use a PCI gbit ethernet card? I'm affected by a kernel bug that causes lockups with my onboard card and would like to get gigabit speeds as I'm mounting home over ethernet [11:50] jonsaint: yeah [11:50] superb [11:50] but the more people who're down as affected by a given bug, the more developer time they point at it :) [11:51] cheers for the info. [11:54] I tend to guess which package the bug is for... and it generally gets corrected anyway [12:00] awilkins: "It's for.. mplayer" "*bzzt* it's for totem" [12:02] Is there anyway I can get a list of my installed packages from apt (From my current install) then install 11.04 and then install all the packages in that list? [12:02] dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --get-selections [12:02] I'm not doing a straightforward upgrade because I need to install winXP [12:02] Thanks [12:03] do dpkg --get-selections > somefile [12:03] then get somefile to the new instrall [12:03] then do dpkg --set-selections < somefile [12:03] then apt-get upgrade [12:03] (or perhaps dist-upgrade). there's several docs on that around, though [12:05] Thanks! [12:05] Will I end up wiuth any trouble due to deprecated packages or things like that? [12:24] it's bad because it doesn't preserve auto-install markers [12:24] and it shows libraries in addition to applications === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [13:33] BAH! [13:33] eh? [13:33] mailing list [13:33] great long thread helping someone get his wireless working, and before he tries the many suggestions he decides to go back to 10.04/10.10 [13:34] waste of everyone's time. [13:34] have to admit I've tried a few things to get my wi-fi working properly and nothing has worked [13:35] not sure whether to go back to 10.10 or try a clean install of 11.04 [13:48] * brobostigon returns [13:49] mfraz74: what chipset [13:50] davmor2: atheros ar5b95 [13:50] davmor2: it is using the ath9k driver [13:51] mfraz74: apply the proposed repo there is a kernel fix for it, in the mean time try doing sudo rfkill --unblock wifi [13:51] i've applied the proposed repo, still doesn't work [13:51] mfraz74: :( [13:52] if I use rsync to sync files between my server and netbook after a while the traffic slows to nothing [13:52] worked fine in 10.10 [13:53] mfraz74: ah that's a different issue then [13:53] mfraz74: create a bug report and include the words Regression in it [13:56] davmor2: bug #760304 is the one I've commented on [13:56] Launchpad bug 760304 in linux (Ubuntu) "When copying a large set of file on an smb share over wifi, the wifi connection breaks (Regression) (dup-of: 735171)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760304 [13:56] Launchpad bug 735171 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) "driver ath9k is too slow or not responding" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735171 [13:58] mfraz74: you might want to comment on the one it's duped to as your comments will not be seen on that secondary bug [13:59] mfraz74: ie re-write the comment on bug 735171 [13:59] Launchpad bug 735171 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) "driver ath9k is too slow or not responding" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/735171 [14:00] I wrote comment 26 [14:02] mfraz74: ah yes just seen it [14:07] what does the comment right atthe end of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/715096 mean, please. [14:07] Ubuntu bug 715096 in linux (Ubuntu) "[i945gm] GPU lockup (ESR: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x02000011)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:09] brobostigon: that it's a confirmed bug? [14:09] brobostigon: or that he posted a stable release update? on 04-27? [14:09] MartijnVdS: i havent noticed any updates yet, really. [14:10] brobostigon: SRUs can take a while [14:10] brobostigon: enable the -proposed repository to get it early [14:10] MartijnVdS: let me check. [14:10] brobostigon: If you look at the top now linux has been added to the bug and the linux part has been confirmed as being at fault too :) [14:11] MartijnVdS: i dont have proposed, let me find a apt parameter. [14:12] davmor2: yes, kms, is related. [14:17] brobostigon: cli way "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" uncomment the proposed lines, gui way "open SC click on in the menu click Edit-> Software Sources type in your password then click on the updates tag and enable proposed and close" [14:17] s/tag/tab [14:18] davmor2: :) [14:26] *yawn* [14:27] * brobostigon scp's MooDoo a pot of coffee [14:28] i need it [14:29] :) [14:29] * dwatkins gets a cup of coffee [14:30] Clearly I was subconsciously influenced by this talk of coffee. [14:30] rsnapshots intervals are weird xD [14:30] the default "hourly" snapshot runs every 4 hours \o/ [14:31] 4 Vulcan hours, clearly. [14:31] indeed [14:31] Avé Legionaries [14:32] lets hope proposed doesnt break anything. [14:32] Hail Caesar! [14:32] dwatkins: you should see the documentation, it's even more confusing xD [14:32] lol [14:32] Azelphur: is it in English or Medieval Chinese? [14:32] it's like "interval hourly 6" "This will run backups every 4 hours so 6 times a day" [14:32] no [14:32] every 6 hours, 4 times a day [14:32] dwatkins: probably medieval chinese :D [14:33] 0 */4 * * * /usr/bin/rsnapshot hourly [14:33] I'd like to learn Klingon just so I can translate the manual for the product I support into it. [14:33] guys, I need some advice/input on these N455 dual-core atom processors.... John Lewis is doing these deals on hp notebooks for £250, which is tempting me into making a purchase. [14:33] popey: fun \o/ [14:33] livingdaylight: url? [14:33] http://tinyurl.com/6cbsak3 [14:34] the tiny url is about as long as the normal url, lol [14:34] :) [14:34] I use dft.ba for shortening URLs. [14:34] Don't Forget To Be Awesome ;) [14:34] * popey uses popey.me :) [14:34] well, officially I use bit.ly ;) [14:34] dwatkins, not heard of that one. Do they have a FF add-on? [14:35] popey, what do you reckon, maestro? [14:35] dwatkins: that looks quite nice :p [14:35] livingdaylight: do you really want a netbook? [14:35] livingdaylight: looks like it: https://addons.mozilla.org/af/firefox/addon/dftba-nerdfighters/ [14:35] livingdaylight: I see your nick but in my head I hear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzV4WGoyl4Q [14:35] livingdaylight: oh wait, that's probably a theme [14:35] davmor2: if that's the song I think it is, I hear it too [14:36] popey, don't mind. For the money a dual-core sounds good. Certainly don't want a big clunky thing for moving around with [14:36] you could get a 'proper' laptop for that money [14:36] livingdaylight: I'm trying to get my hands on an inspiron duo :D [14:36] http://www.ebuyer.com/product/237715 [14:36] popey, what's the difference between a proper laptop and a notebook? [14:36] netbooks are smaller [14:37] small screen and keyboard [14:37] and often don't have many memory slots [14:37] some netbooks come with full pitch keyboards [14:37] not seen proper laptops for that money unless they're old celeron processors. Maplin has a deal ( £275) for a lenovo 3000 (celeron 900) === serial is now known as Guest3300 [14:37] livingdaylight: see that link i just posted [14:38] livingdaylight: for another £100 I got http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/hp-g62-451sa-core-i3-laptop-with-3gb-memory-black-08722513-pdt.html [14:38] guess it depends what the use of the machine is :) [14:39] davmor2, yea, another £100 :p [14:39] popey, that lenovo looks pretty awesome for the same money [14:40] thanks for the heads up! [14:40] i3 processors are very entry level, eh? I was told they're equivalent of dual-core processors... need to get i5 to make a proper move at that level [14:41] livingdaylight: My i3 is dual core [14:43] popey: Thanks for the email reminder about ask mark, I'd forgotten about that [14:43] np [14:43] davmor2, £350 and up I would be looking for a dedicated graphics (nvidia) card; always better than onboard ones, right? [14:45] popey, @ £409 I wouldn't have been interested because of the graphics card, but at its current reduction it makes it a very interesting proposition indeed. [14:45] livingdaylight: the nvidia one would still be on board ;) this has dedicated memory as well as shared, and it works lovely bar the wifi bleedin' Ralink [14:45] yah, looks nice [14:45] Just need to go to the shops and look at one in the "flesh" and test out the keyboard - always a decisive factor in my case [14:46] so, many of them still don't come with hdmi outputs, which is annoying [14:47] i love hooking up small laptops to a big screen [14:50] livingdaylight: that reminds me, I need a mini displayport to HDMI adapter :) [14:50] dwatkins, is that vga to hdmi? [14:51] livingdaylight: no, it's for the little output port in the side of my Macbook Pro. [14:51] ahh [14:51] VGA is analogue, but I'd like to keep the signal digital and take advantage of my 1980x1080 television. [14:51] DVI/HDMI \o/ [14:51] I sometimes connect my tiny ASUS Eee to the TV, which is fun. [14:52] That little netbook is now a media server, however. [14:53] the lenovo does have hdmi out! ooooh.... [14:53] My PC has DVI, HDMI, VGA out [14:53] and apparently, it can do HDMI-CEC... [14:54] my docking station has two DVI outs for my work laptop [14:57] reflashed my routers firmware without dropping from IRC. Winning :p [14:57] Azelphur: \o/ vps :P [14:57] MartijnVdS: nope, I didn't loose my connection from here to my dedi :P [14:57] my client remained connected [14:58] bet it didnt :) [14:58] bet it reconnected [14:58] yea, but it reconnected in a way that didn't actually loose my IRC connection [14:58] indeed [14:58] so when the firmware reflash finished I just got a small flood on IRC [14:58] nice when that happens [14:58] indeed :) [14:59] i have accidentally slammed my laptop shut, causing it to suspend, opened up, reconnected to the network and ssh carried on [14:59] win [14:59] haha [15:00] I just blank screenw hen I shut my laptops lid, it gets irritating trying to move to a different seat or something and having to awkwardly carry the laptop while it's open [15:01] yeah, I've taken advantage of the timeouts on ssh a couple times. [15:01] also, if you're quick when resuming, you can ~. to kill the session before it hangs. [15:01] dwatkins: ~. [15:01] or ~~~~~~~~. for a 8-level edep ssh :) [15:01] haha, yeah - I've had ... urrrm ... many levels deep [15:02] What's the best / most compatible encryption mode for wifi now days? there's so many WPA2 options in DD-WRT [15:03] Personal, Enterprise, Personal Mixed, Enterprised Mixed. Which WPA2 do I want? :P [15:06] One with a long key. [15:06] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Access#A_high-level_overview_of_WPA_terminology might help, Azelphur - I need to read this myself, probably. [15:07] I believe I use WPA-PSK at home. I suspect it's good enough unless you live next door to a hacker. [15:07] ah I see :) [15:07] yea, I probably want WPA2 Personal [15:07] maybe changed to WPA2 Personal Mixed if I find any devices not WPA2 capable in the hosue [15:08] Yeah, if you can, choose a nice long key, then save it to a text file somewhere you can easily get to after your hard disk dies and when friends bring round laptops. [15:08] dwatkins: I use keepass :D [15:08] text files are so retro [15:08] keepass+dropbox = win [15:08] ok, how do you get to that if your PC dies, though? :) [15:09] ah ok [15:09] protects against user error I believe too as you can rollback the file with dropbox [15:09] drawpbawx [15:09] but you might need to get online, that's my point. I was thinking of a USB key inna drawer. [15:09] just thinking of the possibilities, having had problems with my wifi router recently. [15:10] hehe [15:10] I'll always be able to get at my keepass :) [15:10] Even when MS stops your windows from working? [15:11] I don't have Windows? [15:11] ah ok, sorry, didn't see the ports [15:11] yea, keepass is like insanely cross platform [15:11] it's like there's cross platform, and then there's keepass x [15:11] xD* [15:11] do you have the data on multiple machines? [15:11] yes. [15:11] all my laptops, PC, and my android phone [15:11] right, cool - the name is justified, then [15:12] :) [15:12] I adopted it as a policy after someone broke into a service I used purely to get at my password [15:12] and then used that password to abuse other stuff I used, because I used the same password for everything :p [15:13] (I was only 13 or so at the time) [15:13] but now I have unique passwords for everything with keepass, much more secure [15:14] Anyone know much about wifi transmit power settings? [15:15] When I was 13 I invented a phrase which I now use as a password, but back then the closest thing I had to a password was my PIN number. [15:16] I worked for a while in a shop with no barcode scanner, but product codes on everything anyway [15:16] I have a good amount of memerised pseudo-random strings for concatenating into passwords :) [15:20] 321456 was my dad's old office number. Quite handy [15:21] haha, that was pretty obvious re wifi transmit power, just went and asked about it in #hamradio [15:21] I use old telephone numbers for that. [15:22] the answer is: Leave it at default most laptops broadcast at 50ish and the power needs to be hiked at both ends to make any difference \o/ [15:24] ahh yes [15:24] I installed a new graphics driver and now my XP laptop thinks it's 1992 and 16 colours are cool... well done IBM. [15:25] bigcalm: I have my phone hooked up to some VOIP magic I have like 300 break-in numbers all over the planet :D [15:25] * Azelphur is just a local call away :p [15:25] my mobile is also a UK landline \o/ [15:25] nice [15:26] tis pretty cool, and free \o/ === odysseus is now known as Guest43337 [15:39] hi all, I'm from sweden. How do I check the credit rating of an LTD.. I know it's Off topic, but I need the advice. Thanks [15:50] speedxco1e: http://tinyurl.com/637cm9v [16:03] can we change the apps round on the Unity bar? [16:03] the launcher? [16:03] on the left [16:03] yes [16:03] yes [16:04] livingdaylight: Drag them /away/ from the launcher first, then up and down. [16:04] hold mouse button down on one and drag to the right a bit [16:04]