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Cheri703rawr00:52
Unit193Eh?00:56
Cheri703eh, just tons to do and not doing it00:58
Unit193Great. The computer is now set to autoboot memtest ...with no grub screen01:19
Cheri703heh01:20
Cheri703you could liveboot and then edit grub conf01:20
Unit193It's set to the one I want.... Wha?01:27
dmcglone1hiya01:28
Unit193dmcglone1: Hello01:28
Cheri703hi01:29
Unit193I like the old grub much better...01:29
Unit193Still the wrong kernel, but not memtest!01:31
Cheri703progress!01:31
dmcglone1my wife just got a glimpse of Unity, she's bitchin.. LOL01:32
Cheri703heh01:32
dmcglone1she sure as hell doesn't want it01:32
Unit193What are you going to give her?01:33
dmcglone1well at the moment she's running KDE and is bitchin about that, so I showed her my unity install and she said hell no, so I guess it's Gnome 10.1001:33
dmcglone1I mean Ubuntu 10.1001:34
dmcglone1looks like Unity is gonna be a hard sell to casual users for Ubuntu :-/01:36
Unit193dmcglone1: You going to show the other Ubuntus? You could rollback to 10.04 (LTS)01:37
dmcglone1She used to have 10.1001:38
Unit193So if I point StartupManager to the kernel I want, it sets memtest as default.... grrrrr01:39
* dmcglone1 is installing Gnome on my netbook01:45
dmcglone1from there going to gnome 301:45
Unit193It's just not going to take that kernel....02:49
canthus13That's weird...03:06
Unit193And I need to figure out how to install grub menu03:07
jgouldwell...  It seems that my issues with what ever was causing the crash on boot have been resolved by an upstream patch...03:07
canthus13Unit193: That's weird. My wife's machine can't get grub menu to work.. She's running Lucid.03:09
canthus13It boots straight with no menu.  I'm running Maverick and it comes up just fine.03:09
Unit193Eh... I don't think I checked that option at boot03:09
Unit193s/boot/install03:09
Cheri703canthus13: any word on the sully toy?03:12
Cheri703I leave on saturday (as long as I can get a ride to the airport -_-)03:12
canthus13In the mail tomorrow. Last two days have been crazy.... It should make it in time, though. I'll mail it from the post office.03:13
Cheri703ok03:14
Cheri703no problem, just wanted to check :)03:14
Cheri703I have so much stuff to do >.< I'm trying to convince myself to tackle it all :/03:15
canthus13Heh. gotta do it... It'd suck to show up in Hungary and realize you didn't pack underwear...03:23
jgouldThat would suck03:23
Cheri703true03:24
Cheri703I have a bunch of laundry going so I can figure out what to pack03:24
jgouldI hate it when I get cold feet03:24
Cheri703my list for the week thus far: acquire second suitcase, pack, doctor's appointment tomorrow, plan open week session, present open week session, locate a ride to the dang airport03:25
Cheri703*plus all of the regular crap around here03:25
jgouldWhere are you Cheri703 (and which airport are you flying out of?03:25
Cheri703I'm in mansfield and I'm going to columbus :/03:25
Cheri703that's the difficulty03:26
Cheri703if I was still in columbus, I'd be fine03:26
Cheri703I have enough people who owed me from times I picked them up ;)03:26
jgouldIf I had a reson to go to mansfield, I'd pick you up and drop you off at CMH03:26
Cheri703heh, I appreciate it03:27
Cheri703mansfield is AWESOME >.>03:27
Cheri703one option I'm considering is getting a ride to cbus friday night (if possible) and crashing at a friend's house and then going in the morning from there. that greatly shortens my time table though :/03:28
jgouldJust a little bit03:30
Cheri703you under estimate how late I stay up03:30
Cheri703to get to columbus at a reasonable hour (even by 10) would require leaving by 9, which would cut 4-5 hours off of my general "doing stuff" time...possibly even more03:31
Cheri703not counting any time in the morning03:32
jgouldI stay up late when Our jobs at work slow down (which they are, and layoffs are looming again...)03:38
Cheri703where do you work?03:39
jgouldI work for a little company called Lifetouch National School Studos03:40
jgoulder Studios03:40
Cheri703wait...lifetouch...where is that?03:40
Cheri703that sounds vaguely familiar03:40
Cheri703is there another place called lifetouch?03:40
jgouldWe have subsidiaries...  Not that I know of03:41
jgouldwhere, we are an international company with offices around the US and Canada03:41
Cheri703ah, ok, I'm thinking of lifetouch church directories...I had to go there for my old job03:41
jgouldThat's owned by us.  I work for NSS as a photographer.  I've said in the past that almost everyone has heard of us, but few know what we do03:42
Cheri703ah, gotcha03:43
Cheri703that's cool03:43
Cheri703I worked for a short time at "picture people" omg it was horrible. I like photography, but that place...03:43
jgouldI need to find something else to do03:43
Cheri703this is what I'm up to these days: www.TechHeroOhio.com  need more clients though :/03:43
jgouldThat helps03:44
canthus13Cheri703: You should change those bottom lines.. They give a double vision effect that's a bit disconcerting.03:44
Cheri703ok03:45
canthus13Side-by-side of offset a bit more, maybe.03:45
jgouldI'm just happy that I am working in Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro 8,1...03:45
Cheri703I was pondering whether I needed to have both email AND web address (that's basically my flyer, but with different font)03:45
jgouldSo what goes on at a Ubuntu Hour03:48
Cheri703at ours we just hang out and chat03:49
jgouldSounds like waht we did Sunday XD03:49
Cheri703heh, possibly03:49
jgouldWith Jacob's machine attached to the projector03:50
jgouldHmm... Too bad Evoloution cant' do Google Calendars...03:52
Cheri703it can!03:53
Cheri703I use it...03:53
jgouldtwo way sync?03:53
Cheri703I like having my google calendars synced with the applet03:53
Cheri703yep03:53
Cheri703do "new calendar" type drop down to Google03:54
Cheri703it's awesome03:54
jgouldWith Jacob's machine attached to the projector03:54
jgoulder03:54
jgould*Gasps*03:54
jgouldYay~03:54
jgouldHow does it handle multiple calanders? (I use two gmail accounts almost exlcusivly with the calendar03:55
Cheri703I have like 4 different google calendars synced03:55
Cheri703it's fine03:55
jgouldAnd it's an all in one app, which I like better than the Mail/iCal/Address Book trio that apple uses03:56
Cheri703yeah03:57
Cheri703on my netbook, the google calendar page is a PAIN unless I put firefox into full screen03:57
jgouldHow big is the scren on your netbook?03:58
Cheri70310.1"04:00
jgouldI've thought about getting a netbook for an even more portable machine than the 13.3" MacBook Pro, but I fear that I will run into the same issue that I did with the 11.6" MacBook Air...  The screen was too short and it hurt my neck to use it for an extended period of time04:04
Cheri703I like mine a lot04:05
Cheri703I was using a 15" for a while (not especially wide screen, was kind of tallish), and I didn't like that there was only a VERY specific spot that looked "right" instead of the crappy "wrong angle lcd" appearance04:05
Cheri703canthus13: check it now04:06
jgouldWow...  I've only  really been back in teh commmunity for a few days and I'm already helping people in teh Ubuntu fourms... XD04:08
Cheri703heh, go you!04:08
canthus13Much better. :)04:09
jgouldI like the new version better aws well04:09
jgouldI can't type worth a damn, but hey04:09
Cheri703thanks :)04:10
Cheri703I had just uploaded the equivalent of my initial flyer. I'd since redone it, so I updated to match that (and take off the website)04:10
jgoulddo you just delete messages from the inbox in evloution to archive them?  (I can't rememmber.  It's been a while...)04:12
Cheri703I don't use evolution for email04:14
jgouldI find it easier to do it all in one place04:15
* canthus13 does all of his emailing in one place: gmail. :)04:15
Cheri703same here04:15
canthus13Much easier than dealing with a mail client. :/04:15
jgouldunless you have 3 accounts that you bounce between on a regular basis...04:15
* Cheri703 sets gmail to check the others, also to send as others04:17
jgouldHow does that work from a mobile device?  I send and recive off of all three from my BlackBerry04:18
* Unit193 uses Alpine half the time, gmail half the time and Thunderbird the rest of the time :D04:18
Cheri703I could use the main mail thing, or gmail...either one...04:19
canthus13jgould: I just use the gmail mobile client for my phone. (not blackberry, but gmail seems to have a client for everything...)04:19
jgouldIf I do that, then there is no reason to have the blackberry... :P (Although it about got tossed into traffic the other day on Hilliard Rome Road because it was pissing me off...)04:20
* Cheri703 hearts android04:21
jgouldI'm leaning toward andriod.  My love for Apple is slowly waning04:21
* canthus13 is still looking to get a Pre/Pre plus.. WebOS <304:21
* canthus13 lost his love for Apple around 1991.04:22
jgouldThe build quality on my Macbook is great, If I would have knowm that I was goign to have problems, I would have kept my C2D MBP and not gotten this Core i5...04:23
jgouldNow I'm thinking ahead to when this one goes and depending on how much I'm using Ubuntu as a primary OS, looking at System76 for the next one04:24
jgouldA little over $200 cheaper for pretty much the same comptuer. (This one has an i5, the Lemur has an i3)04:25
canthus13System76 builds some really sweet hardware.04:26
Unit193Don't System76 run a little high in price?04:26
canthus13No. Mac runs a little(lot) high in price. :)04:26
jgouldDoesn't look like it04:26
canthus13They're not cheap (Acer/HP/Gateway).  They're priced more like a good HP business laptop or a higher-end Dell.04:27
canthus13From what I've seen, they're worth it.  And I like the guys that I've met that work there. :)04:27
canthus13Cheri703: How's the netbook holding up so far?04:27
jgouldThis is one of those indrusties that is a "You get what you pay for" thing04:27
canthus13to a degree. I don't see Mac being worth the stupid price.04:27
Cheri703they replaced the case, but...the customer service is SEVERELY LACKING...don't go zareason04:28
Cheri703:/04:28
Cheri703the computer itself is fine04:28
Cheri703the crappy email I got from the ceo of the company is NOT04:28
* canthus13 won't be recommending zareason for a while...04:28
Cheri703yeah...I'm glad they fixed it, but...even then, crappy customer service04:29
jgouldI will say that every time I've had a hardware problem (with the exception of the dog giving the MacBook I bought in early 2009 a drink of cofffee) Apple has fixed issues without much fuss.04:29
jgouldI had an intermitent screen flicker and they repalced the inverter board just on my word. (which did fix it by the way)04:29
canthus13jgould: I've heard nightmare stories about apple service.. of course I've heard the same about Dell, and my dad hasn't had a single issue with them (aside from one know-it-all that tried to blame the hard drive when the machine wouldn't post, but he caved when I got on the line and told him I was Dell certified (I'm not, but A+))04:31
* canthus13 personally will never buy HP again for the customer service.04:31
* canthus13 has had 3 dell laptops so far, and the only one to die was one that got stepped on and then dropped off a table.04:31
canthus13And that one was 8 years old. :D04:32
jgouldDell's customer service is funny...  My wife has an insprion 600m that the dog threw up in.  (He had drank a lot of water and it was too much) I dumped the machine, opened it up, determined the only thing I needed was a keyboard, called and told the guy to send me the keyboard, and he was like "You need to send it in." I sighed and said, It's just the keyboard, send me the damn thing or go get yoru04:35
jgouldsupervisor." needless to say, I got the keyboard.  by that point I had replaced 4 or 5 keyboards... She strikes hard....04:35
canthus13jgould: My dad also buys XPS systems exclusively, which have different service contracts than the cheaper systems, so that probably makes a difference.04:42
jgouldprobably.  I love the way to install software in Ubuntu04:46
canthus13Repos make it soooo easy. :)04:47
jgouldYes.  I wonder how hard it would be to create a list of software that you've installed on one machineso you can install it on the other...04:49
Cheri703SUPER EASY04:49
Cheri703in synaptic, you can save markings04:50
jgouldTaht would install stuff that I need on one machine, but not the other (eg. ndiswrapper)04:52
canthus13There's a way to export the installed package list and import it on another machine... Use it for reinstalls, usually. I just don't remember what the command is.04:53
canthus13jgould: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26136604:54
Cheri703you can save it and then restore it on another machine04:54
canthus13Just edit the list and remove the stuff you don't want.04:54
jgouldLets see you do that on an OS that isn't a Ubuntu/Debian deritive!04:55
canthus13redhat-style systems can do it as well.04:58
canthus13but forget windows. :)04:58
canthus13OSX could be set up for it fairly easily.04:58
jgouldWhy can't gmail imap to itself...04:59
jgouldcanthus13: I think that's part of the reason for the App Store.  Linux has been doing it for years though...04:59
canthus13Yeah, but you don't pay for ubuntu repos. :)04:59
canthus13Actually, nm. that's not true.. there *are* a few items for sale in there.05:00
jgouldI know.  One of the peices of software I have under OS X is going to be payware for the linux version.  I will probably buy it05:02
canthus13don't say that too loud.. the freetards will yell at you. :(05:03
jgouldIt's some very specialized writing software that fits the way I write05:03
jgouldbut I can't seem to type tonight05:04
* canthus13 has no issue with pay software. If he could afford it, and they ported it to Linux, he'd probably buy Photoshop.05:05
Unit193Free software = software you don't pay for!!05:07
canthus13yeah...?05:07
jgouldThere's a lot of software that I use that I can't afford05:07
jgouldI understand making money, but some of the prices they charge are outragious05:07
Unit193canthus13: Freetards think Free software = OpenSource05:08
canthus13jgould: Generally, the more specialized the software is, the more expensive it is, because the market is smaller and dev costs have to be recouped.05:08
Cheri703teamviewer has INSANE prices05:08
* canthus13 never checked into their prices.05:09
Cheri703it's crazy05:09
canthus13gotoassist is actually reasonable iirc.05:09
* canthus13 wonders how feasible skype's screensharing is for support...05:09
Cheri703is it cross platform? and VERY easy on the other side?05:09
Cheri703horrible05:09
dmcglone27that was a disaster05:12
Unit193dmcglone27: Then don't do it again!05:13
dmcglone27Thought I was never gonna get this netbook running again05:13
Unit193Unity?05:13
jgouldWhat did yo do to it05:13
dmcglone27I tried installing gnome, then upgrading to gnome 3 and poof it all went south05:13
dmcglone27I'm back to 10.1005:14
dmcglone27I'm sticking with 10.10 and Gnome 305:14
jgouldGah... nidswrapper just took out my Macbook05:18
dmcglone27again?05:18
jgouldsye05:18
jgoulder yep05:18
dmcglone27dang05:19
dmcglone27that sux05:19
canthus13ndiswarper...05:19
jgouldyeah, that05:19
jgouldNow lets see if I can get it to come back up05:20
jgouldthat was weird...05:21
jgouldNope,  My kernel bug still exists...05:23
jgould:(05:23
canthus13Bummer... :(05:24
jgouldI wonder if rolling my own kernel would help...05:24
Unit193There is mainline on launchpad05:25
dmcglone27have you tried the server kernel?05:25
jgouldNot yet,  It's going to take a reinstall to do anything now05:25
jgouldI wonder if starting minimal and adding things in manually would help with this issue...05:38
dmcglone27when you re-install, go with the server edition and see if you have the same problem05:40
jgouldI'll need to grab the 64 bit server edition05:42
dmcglone27it's worth a shot05:46
jgouldYep05:47
jgouldHow many others would have just given up?05:47
dmcglone27yup, I agree05:48
dmcglone27brb05:48
jgouldwell, this sounds like shit05:55
dmcglone27Ok running gnome 305:57
dmcglone27I'm about to call it a night05:57
Unit193dmcglone27: Does it like nice and pretty?05:58
dmcglone27It's nice, but can't say if I'll like it long term05:58
jgoulddmcglone27: I'm going to try the see what happens06:01
dmcglone27good luck06:02
dmcglone27Unit193: seen gnome 3 yet?06:03
Unit193dmcglone27: No06:03
Unit193Have some handy SS?06:04
dmcglone27hang on I'll get some06:05
jgouldInteresting.  If you hold your windows key, numbers will appear on the launcher in Unity and you can just hit the windows key and the number and be th ere06:10
jgouldAt this point I'm tempted to grab 11.10 and see what I can do with it06:29
Unit19311.10?06:30
dmcglone27Unit193: http://ubuntuone.com/p/qg8/06:32
dmcglone27http://ubuntuone.com/p/qg7/06:33
Unit193dmcglone27: Not bad at all!06:34
dmcglone27I have it installed alongside the default gnome, so I can use either one06:35
Unit193I might even try Gnome with that...06:35
jgouldUnit193: The alpha (!) release of the next version.  Who knows it may work better...06:36
dmcglone27Unit apt-get install gnome3-session06:37
dmcglone27log out and back into gnome 306:37
Unit193That's default settings?06:38
Unit193And they dumped that for Unity...06:38
dmcglone27yup06:38
dmcglone27I can actually say I like this way better than Unity06:43
jgouldHmmm.. I can't install gnome3,  It needs gnome-shell wich isn't in the repo... (11.04)06:45
dmcglone27that was my problem jgould so I tried installing gnome classic first then gnome 3 and everything went south06:46
dmcglone27so I re-installed 10.10 and gnome 306:46
dmcglone2711.04 is shitty!06:46
dmcglone27what about you Unit193 did you get it?06:47
Unit193dmcglone27: Nothings going to happen right now06:48
Unit193I may try it in VBox...06:48
dmcglone27cool, I can almost guarantee you will like it06:48
jgouldI wonder how the MacBook will respond if I roll it back to 10.04 or even 10.1006:49
dmcglone27we are gonna have to get used to this new format sooner or later, because I can see everybody doing it soon06:49
dmcglone27I'm not sure jgould06:49
Unit193Last time using Ubuntu full install was 6.10 and I'm not changing that soon...06:49
dmcglone27well I'm gonna get some shut eye, I'll see y'all tomorrow06:50
jgouldNight06:51
dmcglone27Oh yeah, one more thing before I go, gnome 3 moved the damn icons back to the right side where they belong!!! :-)06:51
Unit193dmcglone27: Have a good rest!! (Thanks for the SS)06:51
dmcglone27Ok, no problem. night guys06:51
Unit193Min, Max, Close?06:52
jgoulddunno06:52
jgouldHeh06:52
jgouldAre you in columbus, Unit?06:52
Unit193jgould: Having fun? ;)06:52
Unit193No I'm not...06:52
jgouldLoads of fun.  More than I should be allowed ot have06:52
* Unit193 wanted to go to the C-Bus thing06:52
jgouldI was there.  First LoCo event ever06:53
Unit193Other then U-H, it would have been mine...06:53
Unit193I SO wanted to go...06:54
jgouldU-H?06:54
Unit193Ubuntu Hour06:55
jgouldI may go to that tomorrow.  Not sure yet.  I don't think the Missses will tag along, she was bored at the LoCo event on sunday..06:55
Unit193Come to mine?06:56
Unit193;)06:56
Cheri703Unit193: he's in cbus06:56
Unit193I know... ---> ;)06:56
jgouldWhich one is yours?06:57
jgouldany one else have a little blue triangle at the upper left of thier screen in Unity on 11.04?06:59
Unit193I'm not sorry, I don't use Unity07:00
jgouldhmm...07:05
Unit193Cyanide and Happiness anyone?07:11
jgouldAnyone else having issues with backspace not working in FF/Chrome07:16
jgouldBe right back...07:17
jgouldHow in the hell do you pick another kernel?07:21
Unit193Last ones here: apt-cache search kernel image07:25
Unit193What one are you looking for?07:26
Unit193sudo apt-get install linux-image-virtual07:26
jgouldsomething other than generic to see if my issue with the i915 driver is limited to generic07:27
Unit193Server or Liquorix?07:28
jgouldI'm tempted to try to compile my own kernel... It's been about ten years since I've done that07:28
jgouldI'm trying server07:28
jgoulddamn it07:38
Unit193Still errors?07:39
jgouldYep07:39
jgouldI'm going to give 10.04 a shot...07:42
jgouldI figure I can't hurt anything07:44
Unit193Wireless card (I don't remember)07:51
jgouldNope07:54
jgould[drm:intel_dsm_pci_probe] *ERROR* failed to get supported _DSM functions07:54
jgouldIt's a kernel bug with the i915 chipset07:54
Unit193jgould: Did you look at this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam%2FMainlineBuilds07:58
jgouldThis is making my head hurt08:01
Unit193I can't help any...08:02
jgouldDoing what I'm doing is how bugs get fixed...08:08
Unit193jgould: I think someone in one of my other channels has the same device08:13
Unit193Were you getting freezes from screen-savers?08:15
jgouldNo08:19
jgouldMy problem occurs on boot, and once it does, there is no recovering08:25
Unit193"xorg had an update today for intel chipsets"08:25
* Unit193 <--- REALLY can't help08:26
jgouldThis is kernel level08:26
Unit193Yep...08:27
jgould*gru05:24:08     rchavik | *sigh*, this is going to destroy my    │ _marix10:24
jgouldm05:24:08     rchavik | *sigh*, this is going to destroy my    │ _marix10:25
jgouldbl05:24:08     rchavik | *sigh*, this is going to destroy my    │ _marix10:25
jgouldus10:25
jgouldok then05:24:08     rchavik | *sigh*, this is going to destroy my    │ _marix10:25
jgould05:24:08     rchavik | *sigh*, this is going to destroy my    │ _marix10:25
canthus13..?11:57
Derath-Srvr<-- owns a System76 Lappy, and has loved it... paid extra for 3 year warranty (which I think is just about to expire, if not already...)13:42
* jgould finds the nearest wall17:02
jgouldOk, I can say I've filed my first bug...18:19
Derath-Srvr?18:38
Derath-SrvrFor the macbook graphics?18:38
jgouldYep18:39
jgouldintresting...18:58
dmcglonejgould: managed to try gnome 3 yet?18:58
jgouldNope.  Still fighting with the macbook18:59
dmcgloneWhere is the stupid home icon located in the filesystem? I looked all over /usr/share/icons and nothing19:19
jgouldSomething intresting of note...  Under Ubuntu, the keyboard backlighting works.  Under Xubuntu, it doesn't19:56
Unit193apt-cache show pommed20:00
jgouldbusted install.  Irrelevent...20:00
Unit193I know - pommed also monitors the ambient light sensors to automatically light up the keyboard backlight on machines that support it.20:00
jgould10.04 is out.  There isn't even support for the wired network card...20:01
jgouldI *will* get this working or die trying...20:02
Unit193Did you try anything other then Ubuntu? What works, works (And maybe you can steal the kernel too )20:03
jgouldNo I haven't.  Maybe I should...20:04
jgouldI wonder what kernel debian 6 is using for a default20:04
deejoejgould: 2.6.32-5-xen-686 is what I have on one of my Debian 6 boxes20:05
jgouldWe'll give it a shot.  Can't be any worse than what I'm working with now...20:07
jgouldI also wonder why I am unable to boot from a usb Drive on this macBook20:08
jgouldI need to learn more about weechat...20:13
Unit193There are quickstart guides online20:14
jgouldyep.  Been too busy dealing with the macbook and trying to get it to work20:17
Unit193Note to self: Don't try to get cousin to dual-boot20:18
jgouldWhy?20:19
Unit193He has a Mac20:19
jgouldwhich mac20:19
jgouldmy issue is specific to this model (MacBook Pro 8,x)20:20
Unit193I have no idea... I only know what it looks like (Not really done anything with it)20:21
jgouldHow long has he had it?20:21
Unit193I think this year (We don't visit much, they are out of state)20:22
jgouldLaptop or desktop?20:22
Unit193Silver Laptop20:23
jgoulddo you know if it has a thunderbolt port?20:23
Unit193No I don't...20:24
jgouldDebian 6 can't see the network card..20:25
jgouldSo  much for trying debian 620:27
Derath-Srvrlol @ Unit20:27
Unit193Derath-Srvr: What? I don't know what Mac he has (I've only seen it once or twice)20:27
Derath-SrvrJust laughing over dual'ing it... lol20:28
jgouldWith the random issues I've had with this MacBook, I regret taking the c2d MBP back...20:28
jgouldHmmm.  It looks like this thing did get networking after all20:41
jgouldDerath-Srvr: If I can get this working, I'm going to be dualing my MBP20:42
Unit193Welcome back Cheri70321:18
Cheri703thanks, was out running a bunch of errands21:19
jgouldWelcome back.21:19
* jgould bashes his head into a wall21:20
Unit193jgould is still having issues with his Mac (And about 70% would have said goodbye to Ubuntu)21:21
Cheri703ha jgould last thing I saw before signing off was: * jgould finds the nearest wall21:22
canthus13Cheri703: Sully should be there by friday.21:22
jgouldHeh21:22
Cheri703good to know canthus13 :)21:23
jgouldOk.  Unity was ok for a little bit, but now it's just annoying21:25
dmcglone1jgould: try gnome 3 it's good21:27
dmcglone1really good21:27
Unit193Linux Journal has something about Unity21:27
jgouldUnit193: is it good?21:27
Unit193jgould: It's a video...21:28
jgoulddmcglone1: I have to get a working system before I worry about gnome 321:32
dmcglone1I keep forgetting you can't get anything working :-/21:33
Unit193dmcglone1: If it was on Ubunbtu, I would try it in a VM21:39
dmcglone1it's in the repos21:39
Unit193I know. They should make a Gubuntu21:40
dmcglone1up package manager to install gnome3-session21:41
dmcglone1use that is21:41
Unit193-shell isn't in 11 repos, right?21:42
dmcglone1no21:42
dmcglone1I installed 10.10 and it was there21:42
jgouldHas anyone seen my brain?21:44
Unit193Was that what I was tossing around??21:45
jgouldHeh21:45
dmcglone1no wonder it's fucked up21:46
jgouldHeh21:47
jgouldWell,  My bug report just got confirmed.  What does that mean?21:48
Unit193Link?21:48
dmcglone1it means it was confirmed to exsist21:49
Derath-Srvrmeans they know it's a real bug...21:49
jgouldGood.  Maybe I'll get a fix and then I can fix the hole in the wall...21:51
dmcglone1don't hold your breath21:51
jgouldWhy do you say that21:56
Derath-SrvrAside from taking a while to reproduce and fix?21:57
dmcglone1sometimes it takes a long time to fix bugs21:57
Derath-SrvrWell, time to go home...21:57
Derath-Srvrlaters21:57
dmcglone1later21:59
dmcglonehi22:27
Unit193Hello dmcglone1, dmcglone22:28
Unit193I thought one would be weechat...22:28
dmcglonethis is his douter  i did not mean to say that sorry22:29
Unit193Well, hello there!22:29
dmcglonei cant talk sorry so sorry22:30
dmcglonebot i am amy22:30
Unit193NP :x <-- me22:30
dmcglonewa22:30
dmcglone1Ha I see my daughter Amy stopped in23:53
dmcglone1She was on my desktop in the other room while I was cooking dinner23:54
dmcglone1Unit193: Actually dmcglone1 is my netbook and dmcglone is my desktop :-)23:55
Unit193School?23:56
dmcglone1I'm not following23:56
dmcglone1if you mean the kids, they are out for the day, they get out at 3:0023:57
Unit193Did she have homework to go?23:57
dmcglone1Ah no, this week is OAA testing so no homework23:57
dmcglone1I'm happy there's no homework, because I have to help them most of the time. It's like I'm going through school all over again :-/23:58

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