[05:55] morning superfly and others [05:55] Maaz, coffee on [05:55] * Maaz washes some mugs [05:56] cold here right now 10c. maybe gonna be a long winter [05:57] where be global warming [05:59] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [05:59] Maaz, ty [05:59] You're Welcome I'm sure [06:14] lo MPD [06:15] bbl [06:29] more oom Kilos [06:29] lo nuvolari wen jy darem? [06:29] ek doen dankie oom [06:29] is by die werk en aan die gang [06:30] môre oom Kilos, and nuvolari [06:30] mooi [06:30] lo vliegie [06:31] ek lag vir julle praatjies in die pos box [06:31] eish, go to bed at 1am, get up at 7am... thanks kiddo [06:32] wow thats not nuf sleep [06:32] Kilos: that's what you get when you have a toddler [06:32] the joys of parenthood [06:32] Kilos: oom should remember ;-) [06:32] yeah [06:32] but they actually good memories to forget [06:33] :-P [06:36] our time with ian started only when he was 2 months old if i member right [06:36] he was born 2 months 3 weeks prem [06:36] wow [06:37] yeah. he incubated for 2 months [06:37] that's very premie [06:37] very [06:37] incubation is stupid [06:37] had a 24/7 nurse watching him [06:37] if you use kangaroo care the babies actually develop better [06:38] all our high tech medicine is no match for mother nature [06:38] his lungs hadnt developed yet even so one squeal and stopped breathing [06:38] needed to be whacked onna but to get going again [06:38] kangaroo care [06:39] ? [06:39] oh inna pouch [06:39] Kilos: well, they strap the baby to the mother's bare chest [06:40] we had no choice superfly . he was too early [06:40] even when he came home one of us had to stay with him at all times because he stopped breathing if he cried [06:40] a friend of my dad's did a study on Kangaroo Care in Zimbabwe about 15 years ago, the premie babies in Kangaroo care developed much faster and better than those in incubation [06:40] Kilos: no, even more reason to have used Kangaroo care [06:41] methinks docs didnt even know about that back then [06:42] Kilos: that was how people dealt with premies before "modern" medicine [06:42] when he was born doc told me dont even think of having a child his chances are minimal [06:42] *expensive modern medicine [06:42] nuvolari: yeah, that too [06:42] lol [06:43] he hadnt developed yet so they felt he had to be inna sterile incubator at all times [06:43] we just decided that our "modern" techniques were much better than the ancient ones, and now we have a higher infant mortality rate, more kids suffering from depression, and more teenage suicides than ever before [06:43] was the hardest time in my life [06:43] Kilos: yes, of course they would, doctors are brainwashed into believing that modern medicine is *always* the best thing [06:44] most of that is because of the modern way of living and drugs in todays world [06:44] but we won anyway. got our miracle baby big [06:45] now hes a bit bigger than me but still fulla [06:46] hehe [06:57] good morning [06:59] mornin inetpro [07:00] hmm... [07:05] my dad was born early and at home, was so small that they put him in a shoebox. He survived only to become a man with a big stature almost as big as corrie206. [07:10] and tyou so small [07:11] lol [07:11] Kilos: yeah right, my mom was small [07:11] lol [07:11] blame it on poor mom [07:11] Kilos: heh, I'm much longer than she ever was [07:12] :-) [07:12] inetpro, you didnt eat your veggies [07:12] hmm [07:12] maybe [07:32] hey guys. cam you still make lotsa desktops with natty [07:33] i like lotsa desktops. hate minimising [07:51] morning [07:54] Kilos: not sure about unity, but G3 auto-creates new desktops as needd [07:54] *needed [07:54] ah ty [07:54] hello nuvolari [08:14] lo Squirm [08:15] sup? [08:16] not a lot [08:16] going to work soonish [08:29] cool! [08:29] what are you going to do? [08:30] Squirm: ^^ [08:33] the torture begins [08:33] lunch is smelling good already [09:02] Kilos: I believe Unity has workspaces (same thing as virtual desktops) [09:03] ah ty superfly . and kde? [09:04] yup, KDE has had virtual desktops for aeons [09:04] cant remember what i saw on the pro's lappy [09:04] Kilos: KDE [09:04] great. so looks like kde pushing to the forefront for me [09:05] Kilos: I'm going to get those CDs burned and posted by the weekend [09:05] Kilos: *shrug* depends on how much you like/dislike Unity [09:05] ty very much superfly . just hope the nm works for me [09:06] was not being able to get connected that stopped me and Kde with 9.10 [09:06] NM has come a long way since then [09:07] It was pretty pathetic before 9.10 [09:07] that was all that blocked me. i just couldnt get connected [09:07] the gnome one was so simple [09:09] Kilos: KDE is different to Gnome - it has a different way of thinking about things [09:09] it prefers to give you more options, rather than less, for instance [09:09] lol. yeah. but the nm was shocking [09:10] saw lotsa peeps asking for help once i got going here [09:10] if the new nm is as easy as gnomes then kde looks good [09:11] also then i might get to try quassel [09:12] Kilos: I find it pretty easy, but I also don't know what Gnome's NM looks like, so I can't compare the two [09:12] its just a little tower in the top panel [09:13] you click and it says new broadband connection and you tick your way through the choice of country and service provider [09:13] very simple [09:14] dont forget. simple to you is not simple to a doctor or lawyer or mechanic etc [09:14] i know [09:15] lol. like the many commands that are given without sudo before. was difficult in the beginning [09:16] now sudo is one of my favourite words [09:16] like when i first went to #ubuntu The help they tried to give me just made things wors [09:16] worse [09:17] also this time i will have 2 pcs going so i can get help on one to fix the other [09:18] was very difficult without contact in the beginning [09:25] in todays modern world your nm should be the most important working application [09:31] or at least the easiest to manage for your basic pc user [09:33] IMO [09:40] bbl gonna fight vodacom about their poor data connection,. [09:40] the refuse to give a complaints email address [09:40] grrrr [11:07] Good day all. [11:08] Multiple displays on Unity, how can i get the Unity launcher on both displays? [11:15] I think i got kicked out somehow. [11:15] Multiple monitors in Unity: How can i get the launcher to appear on both monitors? [11:26] hiya rodemire looks like everyone is very busy [11:26] Yep, it appears so. [11:27] have you tried googlin [11:27] yep, am actively doing so now. [11:27] there's stubs all over the place but no real solution. [11:27] i use maaz for googlin then i dont get 500 choices [11:28] please explain, not familiar with Maaz [11:28] you arent [11:28] Maaz, google multiple monitors with ubuntu 11.04 [11:28] Kilos: "[ubuntu] How to enable dual monitor for Ubuntu 11.04 + ATI Radeon ..." http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748037 :: "Ubuntu 11.04 gnome issues with dual monitor and panel applets" http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-11-04-gnome-issues-with-dual-monitor-and-panel-applets-877887/ :: "Ubuntu 11.04 Nappy: More Dual Monitor Problems. - comp.os.linux ..." http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/br [11:28] s/he is awesome [11:28] he is our resident bot [11:28] makes coffee too [11:29] lol [11:29] lo queery [11:29] hi oom Kilos [11:29] rodemire, try the top link [11:30] Ok, [11:30] for starters anyway [11:30] ok lunch time [11:30] enjoy [11:30] k [11:30] Maaz, whats for lunch [11:30] Hmm Kilos . Methinks Kentucky and coleslaw would go down well [11:31] hmmm same food everyday [11:31] bot likes chicken [11:31] Kilos: *blink* [11:31] hehe [11:31] ok I gata go [11:31] l8er [11:31] chow now [11:33] Kilos: Thanks for the links but unfortunately they do not really relate to the situation i am facing. [11:34] aw sorry [11:34] Kilos: I have an Nvidia card and the nvidia-settings is working correctly. [11:34] try asking the question differently [11:35] im no good at getting the right links normally [11:35] Kilos: The problem is. my second display is a TV which i watch movies on, and i want to be able to access my files there. If i start the Unity Launcher (using the Windows key), the Dash appears on the other monitor, thus rendering my TV useless as i cannot start anything there. [11:36] Maaz, google how to set up dual monitors with ubuntu 11.04 unity [11:36] Kilos: "[ubuntu] Unity and dual monitors - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742186 :: "Bug #661450 in unity (Ubuntu): “Support for multiple monitors broken”" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/661450 :: "YouTube - Ubuntu 10.10 (Unity interface con dual-monitor)" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCKiimNWEtg :: "Howto Setup Dual Monitors with NVidia in Ubuntu | a community for ..." http://www.ubuntux.org/howto-setup-dua [11:36] maybe there rodemire [11:38] good luck [11:38] or lotsa patience [11:42] Lol. Thanks there's a guy who says he got it done, thanks a lot. [11:44] welcome [11:55] Kilos: I've decided to just have Twinview, and drag the window to the other monitor [11:56] Will continue googling so long... [12:12] hmm... and why did he leave? [12:13] * inetpro just had a nice cup of Cup a Soup for lunch [12:13] lol [12:13] lekker [12:19] * inetpro stepping out for a restart of quassel [12:20] * inetpro is back [12:20] wb [12:20] Kilos: thanks [12:21] I thingk I brole the USB prort on my external [12:22] I don't think it is covereed under the warentee for more than a year [12:22] and its over a year [15:23] peer giving maiatoday a hard time today [15:27] Maaz, coffee on [15:27] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [15:31] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [15:31] Maaz, ty [15:31] You're Welcome I'm sure [15:49] lo marcog|masters [15:49] hey Kilos [15:49] wassup the big nick [15:49] tumbleweed shutdown our server for a bit [15:49] so running irssi from a different pc [15:49] temporarily [15:49] lucky tab works [15:49] ah [15:50] it wasn't me. If it was me, I'd have told you why :) [15:50] yeah yeah [15:50] sure [15:50] :P [15:51] lol [17:35] * nlsthzn waves [17:35] o/ [17:36] :) [17:58] naandsê [18:00] naand nuvolari [18:03] alo almal === nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work [18:04] naand nlsthzn-work [18:34] lo neelsie [18:36] oe, ek't vanaand van die lekker kerrie en rys geëet wat my ma gemaak het [18:38] lkka [18:38] lekka [19:13] nuvolari, julle vrystaters weet nie hoe om kerrie te maak nie [19:14] sweet jy darem as jy klaar geeet het [19:14] jy moet oefen daar in durban [19:14] eet n bunny chow elke dag [19:17] Kilos: oom, ek luv die kerrie hierso, my ma se kerrie brand *niks* [19:18] ek het jare geleef op bunnies [19:18] maar daai tyd was hulle n drie kwart brood [19:18] Ek hou van warm goed oor die algemeen [19:19] ek het vir my chilli sous aangeskaf wat baie lekker is [20:20] mooi man [20:24] good evening [20:44] naand naand [21:03] evening all [21:03] and hows everyone doing with natty and unity? [21:05] Maaz: coffee on [21:05] * Maaz washes some mugs [21:07] Morganvd: I like unity and natty... but at the moment using Kubuntu 11.04 [21:08] i have chosen to put my pre-thoughts in my pocket and try it out for a week or two [21:09] most of the people say its because your not used to it thats why some people dont like it [21:09] but i can say this its fast [21:09] i just need to get rid of the menus disapearing [21:09] then im happy [21:09] Coffee's ready for Morganvd! [21:10] Maaz: thanks [21:10] Morganvd: No problem [21:15] night all sleep tight [22:07] ok, night everyone