[00:02] <thebritisheditor> Well here we are again
[00:02] <thebritisheditor> it's always such a pleasure
[00:02] <KM0201> ok
[00:02] <thebritisheditor> Noob questions
[00:03] <thebritisheditor> question*
[00:03] <thebritisheditor> How do I run the ATI Control Center Admin?
[00:03] <thebritisheditor> It doesn't do a thing when I try, lol
[00:03] <Souperman> thebritisheditor, uninstall the drivers
[00:03] <Souperman> and re-install them
[00:11] <thebritisheditor> WOW
[00:11] <thebritisheditor> That booted up so fast!
[00:15] <KM0201> !woot
[00:15] <KM0201> ubottu: should have a !woot command
[00:15] <knome> KM0201, it's not a funbot
[00:15] <KM0201> knome: i know, i know.
[00:16] <KM0201> thebritisheditor: so what did you do to make it boot so fast?
[00:16] <thebritisheditor> I have no idea.
[00:16] <thebritisheditor> It was like sleep mode, lol
[00:16] <KM0201> lol
[00:16] <thebritisheditor> Sleep mode on Windows that is
[00:18] <thebritisheditor> How to enable jars as executables?
[00:19] <Souperman> install java
[00:19] <Souperman> XD
[00:21] <thebritisheditor> Already have it installed.
[00:21] <Souperman> change the file atribute to executable?
[00:21] <thebritisheditor> OpenJDK, the stuff that came pre-installed
[00:21] <thebritisheditor> (I'm a noob, how?)
[00:22] <Souperman> well clicking on it and going to >propieties and going to the last tab and changing it to executable
[00:23] <thebritisheditor> Nothing there about executables
[00:23] <thebritisheditor> Permissions
[00:25] <Souperman> oh, thats weird
[00:25] <Souperman> and interesting
[00:27] <Souperman> lol i didnt had hava installed
[00:42] <thebritisheditor> Do you happen to know of any distro with working graphics drivers? XD
[00:42] <thebritisheditor> Well, working graphics drivers for ME
[00:43] <charlie-tca> might want to ask that in ##windows
[02:17] <uofm49426> if you have intel 800 or 900 gpu dont install 11.04
[02:18] <KM0201> 11.04 works fine on the 945
[02:19] <uofm49426> i have a i915 thinkpad x41
[02:19] <uofm49426> 1.5 gb ram
[02:20] <KM0201> weird
[02:20] <uofm49426> it would freeze on screensavers
[02:20] <KM0201> did you install the intel driver?
[02:20] <zenrox> also too just slect blank screen
[02:21] <zenrox> runnings 3d screens on a lappy can be taking
[02:21] <zenrox> taxing
[02:21] <uofm49426> it does it fine in 10.10
[02:22] <zenrox> i have had probs long time ago
[02:22] <zenrox> so i just said no more
[02:22] <uofm49426> its not perfect like my nvidia gt 330 but it does alright with mav
[02:23] <zenrox> mine is 8200m
[02:24] <uofm49426> did there fix that over heating problem with intel gpu yet i read about
[02:24] <uofm49426> with kernel 38
[02:24] <zenrox> dont know
[02:25] <uofm49426> and is the 8xx and 9xx part of the problem or just the hd intel
[02:25] <zenrox> dont know
[02:27] <uofm49426> look at bug number #770040
[02:28] <uofm49426> and 755693
[02:29] <KM0201> bug #770040
[02:29] <KM0201> bug 755693
[02:30] <KM0201> uofm49426: well, one is for ubuntu oneiric... of course its gonna have bugs...
[02:30] <uofm49426> when i upgraded to does i upgrade the xorg-intel or not
[02:31] <zenrox> yes
[02:31] <uofm49426> when i upgraded to 11 from 10.10 does it upgrade the xorg-intel or not
[02:31] <zenrox> it upgrades every thang
[02:32] <uofm49426> so the intel driver would have been installed right
[02:32] <zenrox> yes
[02:33] <uofm49426> km0201 there you go they were installed
[02:33] <uofm49426> i think 10.10 work great till its fixed
[02:35] <uofm49426> if you guy want me to see why and send bug report i could run it from a flash drive or something
[02:36] <uofm49426> i don't have resources to run it on vm from this pc
[02:36] <uofm49426> and i dont trust it the way it ran
[02:39] <uofm49426> i run 10.10 good enough it can run assaultcube 11.04 freeze on a simple screensaver
[02:54] <LucyIntheSky> can someone tell me why m y panels are transparent
[02:56] <KM0201> LucyIntheSky: probably cuz they are set that way, just remove the transparency
[02:57] <LucyIntheSky> KM0201, probably because ubuntu changed my settings when it upgraded although it was told 'no'
[02:58] <KM0201> probably, so just modify them back.. :)
[02:59] <LucyIntheSky> well I figured it out but were you planning on telling me how or were you going to watch me suffer ;\
[04:07] <Josesordo> hi all :)
[04:19] <KM0201> o/ Josesordo
[04:21] <Josesordo> http://bit.ly/lYCjkO my desktop atm.. with XFCE 4.8 in Xubuntu 11.04
[04:22] <Josesordo> but, I wish to run compiz on it.. but ppl said compiz + XFCE = bad idea
[04:22] <smoothtaste> i don't see why it would = bad idea
[04:23] <Josesordo> well, they said is unstable..
[04:23] <smoothtaste> I've never done it with xubuntu, but i do it on my sabayon machine all the time
[04:23] <Josesordo> maybe, I should try...but I wont know how to recover or fix it if my xubuntu get broken
[04:23] <Josesordo> sabayon?.. o_O
[04:24] <smoothtaste> always keep another WM available to log into if it fails
[04:24] <smoothtaste> such as LXDE
[04:24] <smoothtaste> if it does, uninstall Compiz
[04:25] <G-Kar> does 11.04 support the 486 chipset i.e. k6-2?  10.10 does not and 10.04 is not 100% on a k6-2 cpu
[04:27] <Josesordo> mm.. I installed cairo dock..its cool atm.. but I tried to remove the panel 1 by default in xubuntu in the bottom..and I cant.. =(
[04:30] <smoothtaste> move a panel to the top
[04:30] <smoothtaste> or
[04:30] <smoothtaste> Right click on the panel, go to panel properties - then delete.
[04:30] <G-Kar> has any1 had problems doing a clean install on a rig w/1.3G celeron CPU?   I had to twice do a broekn pkg repair in order to get updates
[04:33] <Josesordo> smoothtaste, I tried that.. you cant remove a panel... when one left.. I want zero panel.. to set a cairo dock one.. haha
[04:36] <smoothtaste> delete all items
[04:36] <smoothtaste> make it transparent
[04:36] <smoothtaste> problem solved
[04:36] <smoothtaste> move it to the top as well to avoid issues
[04:38] <Josesordo> haha.. nice logic you have.. thanks =)
[04:39] <Josesordo> but, you see you cant really delete the panel.. hehe
[04:41] <smoothtaste> then stop using xfce
[04:41] <smoothtaste> no panel at all
[04:42] <smoothtaste> Openbox
[04:42] <smoothtaste> I use it on my primary machine
[04:43] <Josesordo> Openbox?
[04:43] <Josesordo> well, Im a noob in this linux world..I just have experience with ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and debian.. xD
[04:51] <smoothtaste> My primary machine is archbang
[04:51] <smoothtaste> My two toys are sabayon and xubuntu - xubuntu is a great xfce distro
[04:51] <Raggs> Josesordo, Debian is great
[04:52] <smoothtaste> +1
[04:52] <Raggs> of the buntu's xubuntu is the best
[04:53] <Josesordo> a noob question.. what is the command to lock screen on Xubuntu?..
[04:54] <Raggs> xscreensaver-lock i think
[04:54] <smoothtaste> if you kept a panel
[04:55] <smoothtaste> you can click on your username and select lock as well. i think you can incorporate this feature into docks (cairo, docky, etc.) as well
[04:56] <Josesordo> well, in cairo dock..macOS theme..there is a button for that..but dont works..cuz dont have the command lol
[04:57] <smoothtaste> ah! gotcha
[04:58] <Josesordo> well, and the command to switch user?.. not log-out..to go to login screen..you know
[04:58] <Raggs> xscreensaver-command -lock
[05:01] <Josesordo> thanks a lot!
[05:01] <Josesordo> Raggs
[05:05] <Josesordo> and the command to open Trash folder?
[05:11] <ubuntu> hi
[05:12] <ubuntu> do  u guys have an updated benchmark for xubuntu 11.04 vs. ubuntu and lubuntu?
[05:14] <zenrox> no
[05:14] <zenrox> ask in #ubuntuforums
[05:14] <zenrox> gore go to the wiki or do one your self
[07:41] <raevol> hey guys, just upgraded to 11.04, and the installer didn't let me type in /mnt/vault for my sdb1 partition
[07:41] <raevol> it's "not being used" right now, how would i set it up to automount to where i want it?
[07:43] <Unit193> Would you be looking for !fstab? (System boot mount)
[07:43] <raevol> is that what's used in 11.04?
[07:44] <raevol> i'm kind of nubby at this, but i know hardware managing stuff gets changed every once in a while
[07:44] <Unit193> !fstab
[07:48] <raevol> ok added a line to fstab by uuid, do i need to mkdir /mnt/vault, or will it do that?
[07:48] <raevol> nevermind, i see i need to make it
[07:50] <raevol> cool thanks so much Unit193 :)
[07:51] <Unit193> raevol: Sorry, my ssh got disconnected...
[07:51] <Unit193> Congrats!
[07:51] <raevol> :P
[07:51] <raevol> now to get dual screen working again.... ugh
[08:25] <quack> hello. can anyone here help me regarding removing items from the xfce settings menu?
[08:28] <Sysi> why would you do that?
[08:29] <quack> because I removed emerald and its entry wasn't removed :\
[08:30] <quack> oh wait...emerald is still here. hm..weird
[08:31] <quack> I removed the package in synaptic but i guess it wasn't uninstalled
[08:35] <raevol> is there a way in natty to configure dual screen support that isn't harder than finding Bin Laden, or am i going to have to learn how to write an xorg.conf again?
[08:36] <quack> i don't know much, but have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:40] <raevol> i'll have to do this tomorrow
[10:21] <jgould> How do you install a kernel on the disk that is not your boot disk?
[10:24] <Sysi> that doesn't actually make sense, what are you trying to do?
[10:26] <jgould> I have a busted kernel on my linux install.  (there is a bug that affects the i915 chipset.) this one may fix the problem, but I can't boot the machine into the install on the hard drive. I'm using a liveCD to try to get this to work...
[10:29] <well_laid_lawn> !chroot
[10:34] <jgould> I fail to understand how this will help me install a new kernel that is packaged in a .deb file...
[10:38] <well_laid_lawn> from the liv cd you chroot into the broken system and work in it like you booted into
[10:38] <well_laid_lawn> s/liv/live/
[13:34] <tomekh> hi. anyone here also have problem with thunar starting (first run) for about 10 seconds??
[13:34] <tomekh> can't solve this problem with google.
[13:34] <tomekh> (xubuntu 11.04)
[13:39] <TheSheep> tomekh: nope, you might try stracing it to see what takes so long
[13:46] <tomekh> TheSheep: good idea.
[13:49] <tomekh> it seems that i am missing some files
[13:51] <tomekh> http://pastebin.com/nQwbjs9f
[13:54] <tomekh> it is hard to go through this, a lot of informations
[13:58] <tomekh> poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}], 1, 25000   <- it stops here for about 8 seconds
[13:58] <tomekh> then:
[13:59] <tomekh> recvmsg(6, {msg_name(0)=NULL, msg_iov(1)=[{"l\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\10\0\0\0&\0\0\0\6\1s \0\5\0\0\0:1.54\0\0\0"..., 2048}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC} , MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = 56
[13:59] <TheSheep> look for an open that returned 6
[13:59] <TheSheep> before it
[14:00] <TheSheep> you are not missing files, it's trying different locations
[14:02] <tomekh> open("/usr/share/themes/greybird/gtk-2.0/gtkrc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 6
[14:02] <tomekh> there are a lot of it
[14:04] <tomekh> wrong. that is the only one line i have found for open that returned 6
[14:05] <tomekh> but, i don't see how this would cause a problem?
[14:05] <tomekh> recvmsg(6, 0xbff07268, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:09] <tomekh> i have just hit ctrl+c in place where it hangs http://pastebin.com/uvcrAfqT
[14:11] <tomekh> after that:
[14:11] <tomekh> http://pastebin.com/YB984wrL
[14:11] <tomekh> and thunar starts.
[14:12] <zenrox> i have no idea
[14:12] <zenrox> eagain sound like its looken for a sound app??
[14:19] <tomekh> damn.
[14:20] <tomekh> gvfs? smbnetfs? dbus?
[15:03] <tomekh> zenrox: from which line of strace you guess that's thunar looking for a sound app?
[15:03] <zenrox> the one you post in here
 recvmsg(6, 0xbff07268, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) <-- that one
[15:03] <zenrox> eagain sounds like a sound app
[15:03] <zenrox> but i ant shure
[15:04] <tomekh> hmm. that's clean installation of 11.04, don't know what can be wrong.
[15:04] <TheSheep> EAGAIN is a constant for error reading from a file/pipe in half-blocking mode
[15:04] <TheSheep> it means "nothing to read and timed out"
[15:05] <TheSheep> it's normal
[15:05] <zenrox> hmmm i just lernt something
[15:05] <zenrox> wasnt shure
[15:05] <TheSheep> http://www.wlug.org.nz/EAGAIN
[15:06] <TheSheep> zenrox: the word is 'sure' :)
[15:06] <tomekh> the problem of long startup occurs only at _first_ start of thunar
[15:06] <zenrox> TheSheep,  i know i dont correct my spelling
[15:06] <zenrox> hehe
[15:07] <Sysi> tomekh: "feature" afaik everybody has it
[15:08] <tomekh> Sysi: 8 second start?
[15:08] <Sysi> varies, but still
[15:09] <Sysi> one xubuntu dev straced it to network-think in sidebar, it makes thunar to load all gvfs-stuff on first start
[15:09] <TheSheep> ugh
[15:10] <TheSheep> connect(6, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/tmp/dbus-Vu5QIkm5um"}, 23) = 0
[15:10] <TheSheep> this is the socket that it waits for
[15:10] <TheSheep> so it's communicating with something through dbus and that something is slow to reply
[15:13] <tomekh> huh
[17:37] <falcon316> Hello, Anyone ther ?
[17:37] <drc> nope, nap time....
[17:38] <Souperman> nope
[17:38] <falcon316> Sorry to disturb you guys.
[17:39]  * drc yawns and reaches for his cuppa
[17:39]  * Souperman is getting ready to go to work
[17:40] <falcon316> Guys i have a problem.
[17:40] <falcon316> Need your help
[17:41] <drc> If you'd ask the question, you might get an answer
[17:42] <falcon316> @drc: how do i enable the desktop effects in xubuntu. i am a newbie to xubuntu. i was using ubuntu b4.
[17:42] <Souperman> first check that you have the correct drivers installed >sudo jockey-gtk
[17:43] <Souperman> and check your video drivers are updated
[17:43] <drc> falcon316: You mean compiz? or the internal to xfce desktop effects?
[17:43] <Sysi> xfce doesn't have effects like wobbly windows, you can get some transparencies from window manager tweaks
[17:44] <Sysi> Souperman: xfce compositing works even with vesa
[17:45] <Souperman> yes, but if he wants the compiz stuff he needs more powah
[17:45] <Sysi> he's not yet even installing it :P
[17:45] <Sysi> did somebosy test that window-decorator-plugin with compiz?
[17:45] <Souperman> yeah, but if he where he would need to have updated drivers, it never harms
[17:45] <Souperman> nope
[17:45] <falcon316> i'm looking for some aero effects when i maxmize and minimize windows which i used to get in ubuntu
[17:46] <Souperman> yep you see, he wants compiz
[17:46] <Sysi> Souperman: propietary drivers can cause problems too
[17:46] <Sysi> i wouldn't nstall compiz for that.. but of course it's possible
[17:46] <falcon316> i don've any propreitry drivers installed. i'm using intel 945G motherboard
[17:47] <Sysi> but he will want window borders, does gtk-window-decorator work?
[17:47] <falcon316> which has some inbuit graphics
[17:47] <falcon316> gotta check that
[17:47] <falcon316> should i type that in the terminal
[17:48] <Sysi> that was question for somebody using compiz
[17:48] <falcon316> i know my questions would seem to you so stupid. pls guide me as i'm a newbie
[17:50] <new_archer> Hi, is there a way to keep stuff like screenlets above the video window in fullscreen mode?
[17:51] <falcon316> i have installed compiz-core and compizconfig settings manager. Animations is checked. it's not working though. what should i do ?
[17:51] <Souperman> falcon316, run xfce4-settings-manager
[17:51] <Sysi> install all compiz-plugin you can find, open ccsm ready and alt+F2 "compiz --replace"
[17:52] <Sysi> and then try to find out how you can get window borders
[17:52] <Souperman> go to the windows effects configuration or something like that, and check that in the last tab >composition is enabled
[17:52] <Sysi> Souperman: xfwm settings don't matter if he wants compiz
[17:54] <falcon316> @sysi : you made my day :) it's working ty so much :)
[17:55] <Sysi> just works? nice.. i think you're first, 11.04?
[17:55] <falcon316> yes. using xubuntu 11.04
[17:55] <Souperman> ok
[17:55] <Souperman> im gonna go now gonna let Sysi do his work
[17:56] <falcon316> But the window border has changed
[17:56] <falcon316> by the way what is ccsm ???
[17:56] <Sysi> compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:56] <falcon316> oh k
[17:57] <new_archer> Hi, is there a way to keep stuff like screenlets above the video window in fullscreen mode?
[17:57] <falcon316> ty sysi :) i'm leaving now :) ty for your help :)
[17:57] <Sysi> falcon316: you maybe should run rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and then save session on logout
[17:58] <Sysi> new_archer: i think not, but i'm not totally sure
[17:58] <falcon316> how do i save the session ?
[17:59] <new_archer> Sysi: I searching this for a long time now.
[17:59] <falcon316> @sysi how do i save the session ?
[17:59] <Sysi> falcon316: there's tab in logout window, checked by default
[17:59] <Sysi> *tap
[18:00] <Sysi> (please don't use @ in front of nicks in irc)
[18:00] <falcon316> okay :)
[18:01] <falcon316> one last question. How do i fall back to the prev settings ?
[18:01] <Sysi> falcon316: all settings or just effects?
[18:02]  * likemindead is glad to be back on Xubuntu. ^__^
[18:02] <falcon316> Sysi: yes
[18:03] <falcon316> Sysi: Jus effects
[18:03] <Sysi> xfwm4 --replace
[18:03] <falcon316> Sysi: ty
[18:05] <falcon316> Sysi: would you come here everyday.
[18:06] <Sysi> basically i'm here 24/7 but not always present, bit somebody is about always
[18:06] <falcon316> Sysi: cause i may need your help
[18:06] <falcon316> Sysi: okay ty :)
[18:08] <drc> new_archer: Do you mean keeping the top panel showing when you "full screen" a video player?
[18:46] <b26> hi guys.. having a bit of a prob with 11.04 & xubuntu
[18:47] <b26> i have my laptop as my primary and a 22" monitor plugged in on my vga out port
[18:49] <Sysi> and?
[18:51] <kurtul> b26: what's the problem?
[18:51] <b26> the 22" monitor is mirroring my desktop instead of being extended
[18:51] <b26> how can i correct this?
[18:51] <drc> correct what, you haven't said what the <problem> is?
[18:52] <b26> the monitors are mirrored & not extended
[18:52] <b26> meaning both of my monitors are showing the same exact stuff
[18:52] <nikop> Hi! Can someone help me? I updated to Xubuntu 11.04 and now my multiboot-menu is gone! I cannot log to my Windows anymore! :(
[18:53] <nikop> Before i got to the multiboot menu just by holding down SHIFT of startup, now that doest work!
[18:53] <likemindead> nikop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[18:54] <nikop> likemindead, thank you, ill check that!
[18:54] <likemindead> You have Intel, NVIDIA, ATI, or ____ ? b26
[18:55] <Sysi> use nvidia's or ati's tool or arandr
[18:56] <b26> intel
[18:56] <b26> on board laptop vid card
[18:57] <b26> worked with regular gnome
[18:57] <b26> i just did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and let it run, logged in under the Xubuntu Session option and here i am :)
[18:58] <likemindead> This helped me once. >> http://www.bio.brandeis.edu/~shaikh/linux/randr.htm
[19:00] <b26> i'm installing arandr now to hopefully use the gui form
[19:00] <b26> i just don't get why there's no option to enable/disable mirroring
[19:01] <Sysi> what xubuntu version?
[19:02] <b26> umm
[19:03] <b26> how can i check? (this is my first time w/ xubuntu) saw some recommendations so i figured id give it a try
[19:03] <nikop> likemindead, I didnt find a solution from the link you gave.
[19:03] <Sysi> nikop: you upgraded with update manager?
[19:03] <Sysi> b26: lsb_release in terminal should work
[19:04] <b26> i just did sudo apt-get update, upgrade then install xubuntu-desktop
[19:04] <b26> nikop: for the duals, i installed ARandR
[19:04] <b26> and did it that way
[19:05] <b26> granted.. i don't know if it'll save it after a reboot
[19:23] <b26> the ARandR worked well
[19:23] <b26> im at least not mirroring now
[19:37] <hotquac> anybody use compiz with natty xfce?
[19:38] <likemindead> Nope. I use Xubuntu to stay away from things like Compiz!
[19:38] <hotquac> haha I hear you
[19:39] <tomekh> as likemindead, same here.
[19:40] <charlie-tca> However, yes, there are those who do insist on compiz with Xubuntu
[19:40] <charlie-tca> We just can't normally fix things that break for them.
[19:40] <hotquac> I like KDE, but it doesn't like to idle (memory leaks....)
[19:40] <hotquac> xfce is great for stability reasons
[19:48] <ryan-c> My global keyboard shortcuts don't seem to be working in natty - any ideas?
[19:49] <Unit193> ryan-c: Did you check to see if they are still there?
[19:53] <b26> how can i get the system menu similar to that in gnome?
[19:53] <b26> ie: i need the Connect to..
[19:53] <b26> to access a windows share
[19:53] <ryan-c> Unit193: yes, they're still there
[19:53] <ryan-c> and even stuff like alt-f2 isn't working
[19:54] <charlie-tca> do you have strange windows colors too or missing title bar?
[19:54] <ryan-c> I don't think so
[19:59] <b26> hmm, don't have the Places Menu in the top xfce toolbar.. any idea how to get that?
[20:00] <charlie-tca> b26: 11.04 no longer uses Places
[20:02] <b26> what da heck
[20:02] <b26> :/
[20:02] <b26> how do i access that shit then :/
[20:02] <charlie-tca> !language
[20:02] <b26> that stuff then
[20:03] <charlie-tca> In the bottom panel is a launcher that looks like a folder, it opens the file manager
[20:03]  * ryan-c finds the idea of irc being family friendly and professional to be hilarious
[20:03] <b26> agreed ryan-c
[20:03] <b26> bottom panel?
[20:03] <b26> i have 1 panel at the top
[20:04] <charlie-tca> cursor down towards the screen bottom edge
[20:04] <b26> negative
[20:04] <charlie-tca> it is a hidden panel that will pop up
[20:04] <b26> my docky pops up, but that's it
[20:04] <charlie-tca> then I have no answer, since no docky was installed by default.
[20:05] <charlie-tca> Maybe run     thunar     in a terminal to open it
[20:05] <b26> i put it on there but there never was a bottom panel
[20:06] <b26> can thunar access windows shares?
[20:06] <charlie-tca> As far as I know, yes
[20:07] <charlie-tca> as long as you are using Xubuntu 11.04, and have not removed the associated apps for it
[20:08] <b26> its a fresh install
[20:08] <b26> of xubuntu-desktop
[20:10] <b26> found it
[20:10] <b26> had to do smb://<file_server>/share
[20:20] <Kothe> hello
[20:23] <Kothe> just wondering if someone else has a problem with the "Weather Update" in the panel
[20:23] <charlie-tca> works here
[20:23] <charlie-tca> xubuntu 10.04 and 11.04
[20:25] <Kothe> good to know. ill figure out where is the problem. thanks.
[20:30] <arkani> Helo, any way I can make my email client stay in Indicator plugin ?
[20:34] <arkani> Helo, any way I can make my email client stay in Indicator plugin ?
[20:37] <Unit193> arkani: You only need to ask once. You also might want to say what client
[20:45] <arkani> xubuntu 11.04
[20:45] <arkani> email client evolution
[20:45] <arkani> thunderbird would be fine too
[20:45] <hotquac> evolution sucks
[20:45] <arkani> is thunderbird better or you could sudgest somethin better?
[20:46] <charlie-tca> and is there an icon when it is running?
[20:46] <arkani> no. no email client add icon to indicator plugin when running
[20:46] <hotquac> webmail :)
[20:47] <arkani> webmail... :D no thanks
[20:48] <Sysi> only email-client i've ever used was mutt in school's (irc-)shell
[20:48] <charlie-tca> Isn t there a preference in evolution to always show icon in system tray or notification area or something?
[20:48] <arkani> only email client I like is TheBat
[20:49]  * charlie-tca uses claws-mail, and turns that off
[20:49] <zenrox> i dont use a email client i just use gmail
[20:50] <arkani> I liek to get informed when I get new email. with webmail I would check it once a month
[20:51] <kuakkganni> arkani: Mail Watcher (in panel's Add New Items)...
[20:56] <arkani> ok. just configured that. hopefully it will work.
[20:57] <arkani> more questions any way to make sound, connection, sesion meniu plugins transparent?
[21:00] <arkani> problem. removed and added indicator plugin. now it has "shutdown" and "file" buttons (wasn't there before) any way to remove?
[21:02] <Besogon> Does xubuntu have menu-editor and something for looking samba shared resources?
[21:02] <Sysi> alacarte works, gigolo
[21:04] <Besogon> Sysi, What version of xfce do you use?
[21:05] <charlie-tca> Besogon: anything older than 11.04 does not have a menu editor
[21:06] <arkani> where is 11.04 menu editor? might be usefull
[21:06] <Besogon> %dl_(0sc
[21:08] <Besogon> according to xfce.org they have released 4.8 but ubuntu 10.04 has 4.6 version only
[21:10] <charlie-tca> correct
[21:10] <charlie-tca> and 10.04 does not have a menu editor
[21:10] <charlie-tca> arkani: install and use "alacarte"
[21:11] <arkani> alacarte come with a lot of gnome stuff... woun't it slow down system?
[21:11] <charlie-tca> I don't think it will slow it down much
[21:14] <arkani> seems like I just ruined menu ...
[21:18] <arkani> So anyone has any ideas how to edit indicator plugin?
[21:22] <NRWlion> hey folks who could help me? have an usb flash with xubuntu 11.04 starting device booted up saying "error no configuration file found". what can i do?
[21:25] <TheRedOctober> Hi fellow geeks.  How I multihead extended desktop with xubuntu 11.04?
[21:30] <Sysi> with ati or nvidia tool, or arandr
[21:30] <Unit193> NRWlion: It doesn't happen to say what file?
[21:31] <Unit193> Does it even get to the "Start without Installing"?
[21:31] <NRWlion> Unit193: negative goes straight to "error no config file found"
[21:33] <Unit193> Did the disc burn correctly? What speed did you use?
[21:34] <arkani> oh nice... now skype shows black boxes... time to downgrade to ubuntu 10.04. thanks for help everyone
[21:35] <NRWlion> Unit193: its a usb flash installation i made with unet
[21:36] <Kothe> unet with your iso or you made it download?
[21:37] <NRWlion> kothe made it download a fresh xubuntu
[21:37] <TheRedOctober> Sysi: merci!
[21:37] <Kothe> file system of usb flash disk?
[21:37] <NRWlion> FAT32
[21:37] <NRWlion> like recommended at unet
[21:37] <Kothe> good
[21:37] <Kothe> hmmm
[21:38] <Kothe> i had some problems with unet but not with config
[21:38] <Kothe> mostly boot
[21:38] <NRWlion> seems like i am staying in Kubuntu 8.04
[21:38] <Kothe> have you tried to download the iso
[21:39] <Kothe> and make unet read that and not download the xubuntu by itself?
[21:39] <Kothe> like i did?
[21:40] <Kothe> most of the times if the one iso doesnt work the other one does. i really dont understand why
[21:40] <Kothe> maybe hash errors or something
[21:41] <Unit193> You could try to PXE it
[21:41] <NRWlion> i am not doing anything more today as i am tired
[21:50] <gordimer> n00b question: Why doesn't Gigolo's "Open in file manager" button get my samba share to display in Thunar. No support for that i Thunar?
[21:51] <gordimer> (running 10.04.2, btw)
[21:53] <gordimer> support chan asleep? Oh well - bedtime - will figure it out tomorrow...
[21:53] <gordimer> bye all
[21:54] <tomekh> he had expected answer within 2 minutes
[21:54] <Kothe> and he decided that we all are asleep
[21:54] <Unit193> We need the topic to say "Sit and wait a little after you ask a question"
[21:57] <Sysi> people don't look at the topic
[21:57] <jgould> I'm having nothing but problems and I don't just run off after asking a question...
[22:39] <b26> is there a way to set when you double click on a title bar it toggles maximize / restore?
[22:40] <b26> right now it only seems to maximize
[22:40] <Soupermanito> yes
[22:40] <Unit193> b26: Grab and pull down is how you currently do it
[22:41] <Soupermanito> oh thats because the "not maximized" window is as big as the "maximized" window
[22:41] <b26> for example with this konversation window
[22:41] <b26> i double clicked and its maximized
[22:41] <b26> can't double click in the center to reduce it back
[22:41] <b26> Unit193: i see what you mean
[22:41] <b26> no way to set the clicks?
[22:42] <Unit193> Settings Manager > Window Manager > Advanced
[22:43] <b26> only option is to maximize
[22:43] <b26> not toggle
[22:43] <Unit193> I noticed too, I was just pointing at what I was looking at (maybe there is another way)
[22:48] <point> muy buenas tardes a todos
[22:49] <Sysi> b26, Unit193: works for me
[22:49] <point> tengo una inquietud y quisiera saber si alguien me puede ayudar con eya
[22:49] <mikeea> umgaa
[22:49] <Sysi> point: pleaste write in english or ask your local ubuntu channel
[22:50] <Sysi> *please
[22:50] <Unit193> b26: Works here too (you may have to click 3 times fast)
[22:50] <Unit193> Didn't seem to work the first few times
[22:52] <point> thanks I'll find which is the Spanish-language channel xubuntu
[22:52] <Unit193> !spanish
[22:52] <kuakkganni> b26: Check your double click timing in Settings Manager> Mouse>Behavior
[22:54] <point> de nuevo gracias
[23:08] <Sysi> i have custom shortcut for maximize/minimize, i think it by default is alt F10
[23:10] <Unit193> It is
[23:14] <point> !ask | Sysi
[23:14] <Sysi> point: ahem sorry. That was just advise for others, it came to my mind a bit late
[23:57] <gentoo_drummer> anyone here?
[23:58] <MK``> o/
[23:58] <gentoo_drummer> is anyone using 11.04?
[23:58] <MK``> not me sorry
[23:58] <gentoo_drummer> just got into xfce4.8 and i don't seem to get the notification area working for some odd reason..
[23:59] <gentoo_drummer> eg.. xchat wont get minimized
[23:59] <gentoo_drummer> any idea?
[23:59] <MK``> Someone else has a similar issue. Is the notification area greyed out in the add to panel menu>