[00:02] Well here we are again [00:02] it's always such a pleasure [00:02] ok [00:02] Noob questions [00:03] question* [00:03] How do I run the ATI Control Center Admin? [00:03] It doesn't do a thing when I try, lol [00:03] thebritisheditor, uninstall the drivers [00:03] and re-install them [00:11] WOW [00:11] That booted up so fast! [00:15] !woot [00:15] ubottu: should have a !woot command [00:15] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:15] KM0201, it's not a funbot [00:15] knome: i know, i know. [00:16] thebritisheditor: so what did you do to make it boot so fast? [00:16] I have no idea. [00:16] It was like sleep mode, lol [00:16] lol [00:16] Sleep mode on Windows that is [00:18] How to enable jars as executables? [00:19] install java [00:19] XD [00:21] Already have it installed. [00:21] change the file atribute to executable? [00:21] OpenJDK, the stuff that came pre-installed [00:21] (I'm a noob, how?) [00:22] well clicking on it and going to >propieties and going to the last tab and changing it to executable [00:23] Nothing there about executables [00:23] Permissions [00:25] oh, thats weird [00:25] and interesting [00:27] lol i didnt had hava installed [00:42] Do you happen to know of any distro with working graphics drivers? XD [00:42] Well, working graphics drivers for ME [00:43] might want to ask that in ##windows === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [02:17] if you have intel 800 or 900 gpu dont install 11.04 [02:18] 11.04 works fine on the 945 [02:19] i have a i915 thinkpad x41 [02:19] 1.5 gb ram [02:20] weird [02:20] it would freeze on screensavers [02:20] did you install the intel driver? [02:20] also too just slect blank screen [02:21] runnings 3d screens on a lappy can be taking [02:21] taxing [02:21] it does it fine in 10.10 [02:22] i have had probs long time ago [02:22] so i just said no more [02:22] its not perfect like my nvidia gt 330 but it does alright with mav [02:23] mine is 8200m [02:24] did there fix that over heating problem with intel gpu yet i read about [02:24] with kernel 38 [02:24] dont know [02:25] and is the 8xx and 9xx part of the problem or just the hd intel [02:25] dont know [02:27] look at bug number #770040 [02:28] and 755693 [02:29] bug #770040 [02:29] Launchpad bug 770040 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i915gm] GPU lockup (ESR: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x7d8e0001) (dup-of: 727594)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770040 [02:29] Launchpad bug 727594 in xf86-video-intel "SRU: [i915gm] GPU lockup (ESR: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x02000004)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727594 [02:29] bug 755693 [02:29] Launchpad bug 755693 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[i915gm] GPU lockup (ESR: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x7f9c000c)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/755693 [02:30] uofm49426: well, one is for ubuntu oneiric... of course its gonna have bugs... [02:30] when i upgraded to does i upgrade the xorg-intel or not [02:31] yes [02:31] when i upgraded to 11 from 10.10 does it upgrade the xorg-intel or not [02:31] it upgrades every thang [02:32] so the intel driver would have been installed right [02:32] yes [02:33] km0201 there you go they were installed [02:33] i think 10.10 work great till its fixed [02:35] if you guy want me to see why and send bug report i could run it from a flash drive or something [02:36] i don't have resources to run it on vm from this pc [02:36] and i dont trust it the way it ran [02:39] i run 10.10 good enough it can run assaultcube 11.04 freeze on a simple screensaver [02:54] can someone tell me why m y panels are transparent [02:56] LucyIntheSky: probably cuz they are set that way, just remove the transparency [02:57] KM0201, probably because ubuntu changed my settings when it upgraded although it was told 'no' [02:58] probably, so just modify them back.. :) [02:59] well I figured it out but were you planning on telling me how or were you going to watch me suffer ;\ [04:07] hi all :) [04:19] o/ Josesordo [04:21] http://bit.ly/lYCjkO my desktop atm.. with XFCE 4.8 in Xubuntu 11.04 [04:22] but, I wish to run compiz on it.. but ppl said compiz + XFCE = bad idea [04:22] i don't see why it would = bad idea [04:23] well, they said is unstable.. [04:23] I've never done it with xubuntu, but i do it on my sabayon machine all the time [04:23] maybe, I should try...but I wont know how to recover or fix it if my xubuntu get broken [04:23] sabayon?.. o_O [04:24] always keep another WM available to log into if it fails [04:24] such as LXDE [04:24] if it does, uninstall Compiz [04:25] does 11.04 support the 486 chipset i.e. k6-2? 10.10 does not and 10.04 is not 100% on a k6-2 cpu [04:27] mm.. I installed cairo dock..its cool atm.. but I tried to remove the panel 1 by default in xubuntu in the bottom..and I cant.. =( [04:30] move a panel to the top [04:30] or [04:30] Right click on the panel, go to panel properties - then delete. [04:30] has any1 had problems doing a clean install on a rig w/1.3G celeron CPU? I had to twice do a broekn pkg repair in order to get updates === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [04:33] smoothtaste, I tried that.. you cant remove a panel... when one left.. I want zero panel.. to set a cairo dock one.. haha [04:36] delete all items [04:36] make it transparent [04:36] problem solved [04:36] move it to the top as well to avoid issues [04:38] haha.. nice logic you have.. thanks =) [04:39] but, you see you cant really delete the panel.. hehe [04:41] then stop using xfce [04:41] no panel at all [04:42] Openbox [04:42] I use it on my primary machine [04:43] Openbox? [04:43] well, Im a noob in this linux world..I just have experience with ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and debian.. xD [04:51] My primary machine is archbang [04:51] My two toys are sabayon and xubuntu - xubuntu is a great xfce distro [04:51] Josesordo, Debian is great [04:52] +1 [04:52] of the buntu's xubuntu is the best [04:53] a noob question.. what is the command to lock screen on Xubuntu?.. [04:54] xscreensaver-lock i think [04:54] if you kept a panel [04:55] you can click on your username and select lock as well. i think you can incorporate this feature into docks (cairo, docky, etc.) as well [04:56] well, in cairo dock..macOS theme..there is a button for that..but dont works..cuz dont have the command lol [04:57] ah! gotcha [04:58] well, and the command to switch user?.. not log-out..to go to login screen..you know [04:58] xscreensaver-command -lock [05:01] thanks a lot! [05:01] Raggs [05:05] and the command to open Trash folder? [05:11] hi [05:12] do u guys have an updated benchmark for xubuntu 11.04 vs. ubuntu and lubuntu? [05:14] no [05:14] ask in #ubuntuforums [05:14] gore go to the wiki or do one your self [07:41] hey guys, just upgraded to 11.04, and the installer didn't let me type in /mnt/vault for my sdb1 partition [07:41] it's "not being used" right now, how would i set it up to automount to where i want it? [07:43] Would you be looking for !fstab? (System boot mount) [07:43] is that what's used in 11.04? [07:44] i'm kind of nubby at this, but i know hardware managing stuff gets changed every once in a while [07:44] !fstab [07:44] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [07:48] ok added a line to fstab by uuid, do i need to mkdir /mnt/vault, or will it do that? [07:48] nevermind, i see i need to make it [07:50] cool thanks so much Unit193 :) [07:51] raevol: Sorry, my ssh got disconnected... [07:51] Congrats! [07:51] :P [07:51] now to get dual screen working again.... ugh [08:25] hello. can anyone here help me regarding removing items from the xfce settings menu? [08:28] why would you do that? [08:29] because I removed emerald and its entry wasn't removed :\ [08:30] oh wait...emerald is still here. hm..weird [08:31] I removed the package in synaptic but i guess it wasn't uninstalled [08:35] is there a way in natty to configure dual screen support that isn't harder than finding Bin Laden, or am i going to have to learn how to write an xorg.conf again? [08:36] i don't know much, but have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? [08:40] i'll have to do this tomorrow [10:21] How do you install a kernel on the disk that is not your boot disk? [10:24] that doesn't actually make sense, what are you trying to do? [10:26] I have a busted kernel on my linux install. (there is a bug that affects the i915 chipset.) this one may fix the problem, but I can't boot the machine into the install on the hard drive. I'm using a liveCD to try to get this to work... [10:29] !chroot [10:29] A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot [10:34] I fail to understand how this will help me install a new kernel that is packaged in a .deb file... [10:38] from the liv cd you chroot into the broken system and work in it like you booted into [10:38] s/liv/live/ === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [13:34] hi. anyone here also have problem with thunar starting (first run) for about 10 seconds?? [13:34] can't solve this problem with google. [13:34] (xubuntu 11.04) [13:39] tomekh: nope, you might try stracing it to see what takes so long [13:46] TheSheep: good idea. [13:49] it seems that i am missing some files [13:51] http://pastebin.com/nQwbjs9f [13:54] it is hard to go through this, a lot of informations [13:58] poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN}], 1, 25000 <- it stops here for about 8 seconds [13:58] then: [13:59] recvmsg(6, {msg_name(0)=NULL, msg_iov(1)=[{"l\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\10\0\0\0&\0\0\0\6\1s \0\5\0\0\0:1.54\0\0\0"..., 2048}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC} , MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = 56 [13:59] look for an open that returned 6 [13:59] before it [14:00] you are not missing files, it's trying different locations [14:02] open("/usr/share/themes/greybird/gtk-2.0/gtkrc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 6 [14:02] there are a lot of it [14:04] wrong. that is the only one line i have found for open that returned 6 [14:05] but, i don't see how this would cause a problem? [14:05] recvmsg(6, 0xbff07268, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) [14:09] i have just hit ctrl+c in place where it hangs http://pastebin.com/uvcrAfqT [14:11] after that: [14:11] http://pastebin.com/YB984wrL [14:11] and thunar starts. [14:12] i have no idea [14:12] eagain sound like its looken for a sound app?? [14:19] damn. [14:20] gvfs? smbnetfs? dbus? [15:03] zenrox: from which line of strace you guess that's thunar looking for a sound app? [15:03] the one you post in here [15:03] recvmsg(6, 0xbff07268, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) <-- that one [15:03] eagain sounds like a sound app [15:03] but i ant shure [15:04] hmm. that's clean installation of 11.04, don't know what can be wrong. [15:04] EAGAIN is a constant for error reading from a file/pipe in half-blocking mode [15:04] it means "nothing to read and timed out" [15:05] it's normal [15:05] hmmm i just lernt something [15:05] wasnt shure [15:05] http://www.wlug.org.nz/EAGAIN [15:06] zenrox: the word is 'sure' :) [15:06] the problem of long startup occurs only at _first_ start of thunar [15:06] TheSheep, i know i dont correct my spelling [15:06] hehe [15:07] tomekh: "feature" afaik everybody has it [15:08] Sysi: 8 second start? [15:08] varies, but still [15:09] one xubuntu dev straced it to network-think in sidebar, it makes thunar to load all gvfs-stuff on first start [15:09] ugh [15:10] connect(6, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/tmp/dbus-Vu5QIkm5um"}, 23) = 0 [15:10] this is the socket that it waits for [15:10] so it's communicating with something through dbus and that something is slow to reply [15:13] huh [17:37] Hello, Anyone ther ? [17:37] nope, nap time.... [17:38] nope [17:38] Sorry to disturb you guys. [17:39] * drc yawns and reaches for his cuppa [17:39] * Souperman is getting ready to go to work [17:40] Guys i have a problem. [17:40] Need your help [17:41] If you'd ask the question, you might get an answer [17:42] @drc: how do i enable the desktop effects in xubuntu. i am a newbie to xubuntu. i was using ubuntu b4. [17:42] first check that you have the correct drivers installed >sudo jockey-gtk [17:43] and check your video drivers are updated [17:43] falcon316: You mean compiz? or the internal to xfce desktop effects? [17:43] xfce doesn't have effects like wobbly windows, you can get some transparencies from window manager tweaks [17:44] Souperman: xfce compositing works even with vesa [17:45] yes, but if he wants the compiz stuff he needs more powah [17:45] he's not yet even installing it :P [17:45] did somebosy test that window-decorator-plugin with compiz? [17:45] yeah, but if he where he would need to have updated drivers, it never harms [17:45] nope [17:45] i'm looking for some aero effects when i maxmize and minimize windows which i used to get in ubuntu [17:46] yep you see, he wants compiz [17:46] Souperman: propietary drivers can cause problems too [17:46] i wouldn't nstall compiz for that.. but of course it's possible [17:46] i don've any propreitry drivers installed. i'm using intel 945G motherboard [17:47] but he will want window borders, does gtk-window-decorator work? [17:47] which has some inbuit graphics [17:47] gotta check that [17:47] should i type that in the terminal [17:48] that was question for somebody using compiz [17:48] i know my questions would seem to you so stupid. pls guide me as i'm a newbie [17:50] Hi, is there a way to keep stuff like screenlets above the video window in fullscreen mode? [17:51] i have installed compiz-core and compizconfig settings manager. Animations is checked. it's not working though. what should i do ? [17:51] falcon316, run xfce4-settings-manager [17:51] install all compiz-plugin you can find, open ccsm ready and alt+F2 "compiz --replace" [17:52] and then try to find out how you can get window borders [17:52] go to the windows effects configuration or something like that, and check that in the last tab >composition is enabled [17:52] Souperman: xfwm settings don't matter if he wants compiz [17:54] @sysi : you made my day :) it's working ty so much :) [17:55] just works? nice.. i think you're first, 11.04? [17:55] yes. using xubuntu 11.04 [17:55] ok [17:55] im gonna go now gonna let Sysi do his work [17:56] But the window border has changed [17:56] by the way what is ccsm ??? [17:56] compizconfig-settings-manager [17:56] oh k [17:57] Hi, is there a way to keep stuff like screenlets above the video window in fullscreen mode? [17:57] ty sysi :) i'm leaving now :) ty for your help :) [17:57] falcon316: you maybe should run rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and then save session on logout [17:58] new_archer: i think not, but i'm not totally sure [17:58] how do i save the session ? [17:59] Sysi: I searching this for a long time now. [17:59] @sysi how do i save the session ? [17:59] falcon316: there's tab in logout window, checked by default [17:59] *tap [18:00] (please don't use @ in front of nicks in irc) [18:00] okay :) [18:01] one last question. How do i fall back to the prev settings ? [18:01] falcon316: all settings or just effects? [18:02] * likemindead is glad to be back on Xubuntu. ^__^ [18:02] Sysi: yes [18:03] Sysi: Jus effects [18:03] xfwm4 --replace [18:03] Sysi: ty [18:05] Sysi: would you come here everyday. [18:06] basically i'm here 24/7 but not always present, bit somebody is about always [18:06] Sysi: cause i may need your help [18:06] Sysi: okay ty :) [18:08] new_archer: Do you mean keeping the top panel showing when you "full screen" a video player? [18:46] hi guys.. having a bit of a prob with 11.04 & xubuntu [18:47] i have my laptop as my primary and a 22" monitor plugged in on my vga out port [18:49] and? [18:51] b26: what's the problem? [18:51] the 22" monitor is mirroring my desktop instead of being extended [18:51] how can i correct this? [18:51] correct what, you haven't said what the is? [18:52] the monitors are mirrored & not extended [18:52] meaning both of my monitors are showing the same exact stuff [18:52] Hi! Can someone help me? I updated to Xubuntu 11.04 and now my multiboot-menu is gone! I cannot log to my Windows anymore! :( [18:53] Before i got to the multiboot menu just by holding down SHIFT of startup, now that doest work! [18:53] nikop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot [18:54] likemindead, thank you, ill check that! [18:54] You have Intel, NVIDIA, ATI, or ____ ? b26 [18:55] use nvidia's or ati's tool or arandr [18:56] intel [18:56] on board laptop vid card [18:57] worked with regular gnome [18:57] i just did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and let it run, logged in under the Xubuntu Session option and here i am :) [18:58] This helped me once. >> http://www.bio.brandeis.edu/~shaikh/linux/randr.htm [19:00] i'm installing arandr now to hopefully use the gui form [19:00] i just don't get why there's no option to enable/disable mirroring [19:01] what xubuntu version? [19:02] umm [19:03] how can i check? (this is my first time w/ xubuntu) saw some recommendations so i figured id give it a try [19:03] likemindead, I didnt find a solution from the link you gave. [19:03] nikop: you upgraded with update manager? [19:03] b26: lsb_release in terminal should work [19:04] i just did sudo apt-get update, upgrade then install xubuntu-desktop [19:04] nikop: for the duals, i installed ARandR [19:04] and did it that way [19:05] granted.. i don't know if it'll save it after a reboot [19:23] the ARandR worked well [19:23] im at least not mirroring now [19:37] anybody use compiz with natty xfce? [19:38] Nope. I use Xubuntu to stay away from things like Compiz! [19:38] haha I hear you [19:39] as likemindead, same here. [19:40] However, yes, there are those who do insist on compiz with Xubuntu [19:40] We just can't normally fix things that break for them. [19:40] I like KDE, but it doesn't like to idle (memory leaks....) [19:40] xfce is great for stability reasons [19:48] My global keyboard shortcuts don't seem to be working in natty - any ideas? [19:49] ryan-c: Did you check to see if they are still there? [19:53] how can i get the system menu similar to that in gnome? [19:53] ie: i need the Connect to.. [19:53] to access a windows share [19:53] Unit193: yes, they're still there [19:53] and even stuff like alt-f2 isn't working [19:54] do you have strange windows colors too or missing title bar? [19:54] I don't think so [19:59] hmm, don't have the Places Menu in the top xfce toolbar.. any idea how to get that? [20:00] b26: 11.04 no longer uses Places [20:02] what da heck [20:02] :/ [20:02] how do i access that shit then :/ [20:02] !language [20:02] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [20:02] that stuff then [20:03] In the bottom panel is a launcher that looks like a folder, it opens the file manager [20:03] * ryan-c finds the idea of irc being family friendly and professional to be hilarious [20:03] agreed ryan-c [20:03] bottom panel? [20:03] i have 1 panel at the top [20:04] cursor down towards the screen bottom edge [20:04] negative [20:04] it is a hidden panel that will pop up [20:04] my docky pops up, but that's it [20:04] then I have no answer, since no docky was installed by default. [20:05] Maybe run thunar in a terminal to open it [20:05] i put it on there but there never was a bottom panel [20:06] can thunar access windows shares? [20:06] As far as I know, yes [20:07] as long as you are using Xubuntu 11.04, and have not removed the associated apps for it [20:08] its a fresh install [20:08] of xubuntu-desktop [20:10] found it [20:10] had to do smb:///share [20:20] hello [20:23] just wondering if someone else has a problem with the "Weather Update" in the panel [20:23] works here [20:23] xubuntu 10.04 and 11.04 [20:25] good to know. ill figure out where is the problem. thanks. [20:30] Helo, any way I can make my email client stay in Indicator plugin ? [20:34] Helo, any way I can make my email client stay in Indicator plugin ? [20:37] arkani: You only need to ask once. You also might want to say what client [20:45] xubuntu 11.04 [20:45] email client evolution [20:45] thunderbird would be fine too [20:45] evolution sucks [20:45] is thunderbird better or you could sudgest somethin better? [20:46] and is there an icon when it is running? [20:46] no. no email client add icon to indicator plugin when running [20:46] webmail :) [20:47] webmail... :D no thanks [20:48] only email-client i've ever used was mutt in school's (irc-)shell [20:48] Isn t there a preference in evolution to always show icon in system tray or notification area or something? [20:48] only email client I like is TheBat [20:49] * charlie-tca uses claws-mail, and turns that off [20:49] i dont use a email client i just use gmail [20:50] I liek to get informed when I get new email. with webmail I would check it once a month [20:51] arkani: Mail Watcher (in panel's Add New Items)... [20:56] ok. just configured that. hopefully it will work. [20:57] more questions any way to make sound, connection, sesion meniu plugins transparent? [21:00] problem. removed and added indicator plugin. now it has "shutdown" and "file" buttons (wasn't there before) any way to remove? [21:02] Does xubuntu have menu-editor and something for looking samba shared resources? [21:02] alacarte works, gigolo [21:04] Sysi, What version of xfce do you use? [21:05] Besogon: anything older than 11.04 does not have a menu editor [21:06] where is 11.04 menu editor? might be usefull [21:06] %dl_(0sc [21:08] according to xfce.org they have released 4.8 but ubuntu 10.04 has 4.6 version only [21:10] correct [21:10] and 10.04 does not have a menu editor [21:10] arkani: install and use "alacarte" [21:11] alacarte come with a lot of gnome stuff... woun't it slow down system? [21:11]