[03:21] <johnny23456> how do I pass a exec command to a menu item in python?
[03:21] <johnny23456> I can get the menu items to appear, but I need clicking them to do something like "app --runme"
[03:24] <johnny23456> something like: item1.property_set (Dbusmenu.MENUITEM_PROP_EXEC, "app --runme") ...?
[07:59] <oSoMoN> good morning
[08:57] <jbicha> oSoMoN: good morning, would you be willing to look at my merge proposal again?
[08:58] <jbicha> https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/unity-2d/support-gnome-session-3/+merge/59727
[08:58] <jbicha> https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/unity-2d/support-gnome-session-3/+merge/59727
[09:07] <oSoMoN> hey jbicha, sure, I’ll have a look today
[09:09] <jbicha> cool thank you
[12:58] <hicham> any bamf devs in here ?
[13:06] <cdbs> lamalex: Hello there! How's Orlando, err, Budapest?
[13:09] <cdbs> hu
[13:09] <cdbs> hicham: DBO is the main developer of BAMF
[13:09] <hicham> cdbs : thanks
[13:09] <hicham> hi DBO
[13:09] <cdbs> hicham: he isn't here right now, he's probably in Budapest for UDS and DX sprints, he'll come here later
[13:10] <hicham> cdbs : what part do you develop in the unity stack ?
[13:10] <cdbs> hicham: BTW, howz the Fedora packaging of Ayatana stuff going?
[13:10] <cdbs> hicham: I just work on whatever I think I can :) I've done some coding for Unity and unity-place-* . Mostly I do bug triaging and testing
[13:11] <hicham> cdbs: there are some blockers that I am trying to workaround
[13:11] <cdbs> hicham: like?
[13:11] <hicham> cdbs : for example missing xi2.1 support
[13:11] <hicham> cdbs: have to remove some code from utouch-geis to make unity work
[13:11] <cdbs> hicham: Are the RPMs on your fedorapeople in a working state? Is that a major blocker?
[13:12] <cdbs> hicham: What has that got to do with BAMF? I guess it needs some patching inside X or something
[13:12] <hicham> cdbs: I didn't put rpms yet, only srpms
[13:12] <cdbs> okie, I dunno much about the RPM way of things :)
[13:12] <hicham> cdbs : that is a separate issue
[13:13] <cdbs> okay
[13:13] <hicham> cdbs : my bamf question is about mozilla apps
[13:13] <cdbs> hmm
[13:13] <cdbs> hicham: I guess you really like Unity and that's why you're taking all these steps :)
[13:13] <cdbs> Thanks on behalf of Fedora users
[13:14] <hicham> cdbs : yeah, I like some of the ideas in it
[13:17] <cdbs> hicham: You said and DBO is here now :D
[13:17] <hicham> hi DBO
[13:17]  * cdbs gotta go, btw
[13:18] <hicham> cdbs : what is the package providing workspace switcher ?
[13:18] <cdbs> hicham: Compiz, I think
[13:18] <cdbs> hicham: no, its compiz-plugins-main
[13:18] <hicham> cdbs: is is a new plugin ? still in a patch ?
[13:19] <cdbs> hicham: No, its a new source package in Ubuntu
[13:19] <cdbs> by new I mean different from Compiz itself
[13:20] <cdbs> hicham: Its the Expo compiz plugin, provided in source package compiz-plugins-main in Ubuntu
[13:20] <cdbs> gotta go
[13:20] <hicham> cdbs: thanks
[13:21] <hicham> DBO: got some minutes to debug a bamf issue ?
[15:29] <effie_jayx> I am the current maintainer of a microblogging app and I would like to know what is the best way to have integrated with unity. Currently the app works well in natty but when a user closes the window, the user cannot bring it up again.
[15:30] <effie_jayx> before we relied on an app menu icon in "systray"
[15:35] <dennda> Hey guys. Did anybody actually ever try dual monitor mode with unity?
[15:37] <dennda> I have this setup: Laptop in front of me + bigger screen behind it (i.e. above it). Now the window title bar is correctly on the top screen, but there still is a grayed out area where it was before on the bottom screen, obscuring maximized windows
[15:38] <dennda> also, did you integrate a 'feature' that freezes up your complete UI once you start bitching about unity? cause that's what just happened
[15:38] <hicham> effie_jayx: you need to integrate it with the messaging menu
[15:38] <dennda> ok now it's getting weird
[15:39]  * dennda forcefully restarts gdm >_<
[15:41] <dennda> In other words, the top panel that has the date, time, etc in it is just duplicated on both screens
[15:42] <effie_jayx> hicham: I have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators#Porting%20Guide%20for%20Applications, however I am not the developer just the maintainer.
[15:43] <dennda> Clicking  maximize on a window on the secondary screen maximizes it on the primary screen
[15:43] <hicham> effie_jayx: you can request to whitelist it in unity systray
[15:43] <effie_jayx> Do you consider this change simple enough to be temporarily added as a patch in the package or should I work with upstream and seeing this included
[15:43] <effie_jayx> ?
[15:44] <effie_jayx> Also, if upstream does include code, would it affect any other distribution that does not use Unity?
[15:44] <dennda> Gentlemen; Whom do I have to personally annoy with this? And dont say the bugtracker :)
[15:44] <hicham> this "fix" can't be added to the package
[15:44] <hicham> it should go into unity package
[15:45] <effie_jayx> hicham: I am a bit confused now, I thought the upstream had to make use of libappindicator to be able to work with the notifications area
[15:46] <effie_jayx> bare with me, I have basic packaging skilss but good background in programing
[15:46] <hicham> effie_jayx: gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist
[15:47] <dennda> (If you dont tell me now I will hunt you down next week in budapest :-P)
[15:48] <effie_jayx> hicham: I was told in ubuntu-devel that whitelisting the app for unity is not a permanent solution
[15:48] <hicham> effie_jayx: then you need to integrate it with messaging menu
[15:48] <effie_jayx> hicham: and that has to be done upstream...
[15:49] <hicham> effie_jayx: of course, or you may contribute a patch
[15:49] <effie_jayx> hicham: my next question then would be. Would it break usability in non unity environments
[15:49] <effie_jayx> ?
[15:50] <hicham> effie_jayx: I guess not, since the indicators are dbus based
[15:50] <effie_jayx> hicham: thanks, Shall try that
[15:51] <hicham> effie_jayx: you can look at gwibber to see how they did that
[17:21] <bcurtiswx> is there a step list to get unity 3d to work on vbox
[17:22] <hicham> vbox guest additions
[17:22] <bcurtiswx> hicham, hmm i am using them
[17:22] <bcurtiswx> NVIDIA drivers
[17:23] <hicham> did you install them on the guest install and still no 3D accel ?
[17:24] <bcurtiswx> hicham, hmm thats a confusing sentence.  I have guest additions installed and 3d enabled on the settings but unity doesn't work
[17:28] <bcurtiswx> it seems to not check for 3d capabilities anymore, can i reset that to have it check again?
[17:33] <hicham> can you start compiz manually ?
[17:33] <hakermania> In Natty, there is a try to steer the applications from using the tray, so, does this mean that we're gonna use the indicators instead of the tray for our applications?
[17:39] <hakermania> any kind person to reply :D ?
[17:40] <hicham> of course
[17:40] <hicham> that is the point of the indicator
[17:40] <hicham> *indicators
[17:47] <hakermania> So, what is the point of 'keeping the indicators and not the tray' and not vice versa?
[17:48] <spikeb> the same reasoning as having the indicators in the first place.
[17:50] <spikeb> http://design.canonical.com/2010/04/notification-area/
[17:51] <hakermania> But, I don't get what's the point here. The indicators, as the tray icons do, take some space in the top right corner, so why not having both? What are the drawbacks of the tray icons?
[17:51] <spikeb> see the link above.
[17:53] <nhaines> hakermania: mainly that the tray icons have arbitrary mouseover, left-click, right-click and accessibility issues, whereas indicators are very standardized.
[17:59] <jfi> Hello, what an application using application indicator is supposed to do for the close? It seems that is should not iconify nor hide the window. I am a little bit lost:(
[18:08] <hakermania> Does anybody know if the QtCreator IDE is possible to create an indicator instead of a tray icon?
[18:44] <Daekdroom> Do you need 2d accel for Unity-2D?
[18:50] <htorque> hello everyone! shortcuts for 'non-lens' launcher items (eg. the 't' for trash in TrashLauncherIcon.cpp) currently can't be changed, right?
[19:01] <doctormo> Yikes 400 new messages, empathy irc crash... heh
[19:07] <fta> jcastro, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/chromium-quicklist.png
[19:31] <jcastro> fta: nice!
[19:33] <fta> jcastro, http://ftagada.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/chromium-and-unity/
[20:35] <ia> hello. I have a question about python bindings to indicator applet for 3rd party developers - is there any way (API?) to add in indicator (right in main menu, between gtk.MenuItem's) custom vertical scrollbar? just like in indicator-sound for sound volume - it's written in C/Vala, and looks like that for this devs using some low-level C/GTK tricks :-(
[20:58] <BigD_> hi how do you get unity on a virtual machine
[21:03] <BigD_> join #ubuntu
[22:36] <johnny23456> anyone care to help me with the Launcher API in Python?
[22:39] <johnny23456> after adding a quicklist menu in python, how do I make each menu item actually do something useful? I need each item to call an application with args like Exec would do