| zeroedout | the requirments page is disturbing sparse and lxde.org seems down :( I have someone with a 600Mhz processor and 192MB of ram. will lubuntu run okay? | 01:17 |
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| MrChrisDruif | zeroedout: Aloha, the RAM I'm pretty sure is enough :) | 01:19 |
| MrChrisDruif | For the other I will check the wiki :) | 01:19 |
| MrChrisDruif | zeroedout: According to < https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System%20requirements > a Pentium II or Celeron would suffice and you'd need 128MiB RAM :) | 01:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | I don't know speeds of those CPU | 01:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | 's thou | 01:22 |
| zeroedout | ah sweet, thanks :D urg, it'll probably be better to do a minimal install | 01:31 |
| MrChrisDruif | Probably, that page should link to the minimal installation instructions | 01:32 |
| zeroedout | :) | 01:34 |
| biffbaxter | 600MHz should be fine | 02:04 |
| Unit193 | zeroedout: Might be a tad slugish. What do you plan on doing? | 02:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | Running Lubuntu on it, what else would you think ;) | 02:08 |
| MrChrisDruif | Unit193: Aloha | 02:08 |
| MrChrisDruif | So....tables have turned on us :P | 02:09 |
| biffbaxter | flash and firefox might be a bit slow.....but the basics should be good :) | 02:09 |
| jmarsden | zeroedout: Lubuntu will probably run OK in 192MB, but *installing* it will need the minimal install stuff; 192MB is not enough for Ubiquity to work in. | 02:40 |
| slooksterpsv | The alternate install cd would work, but, same limitations with the memory in the OS | 02:46 |
| zeroedout | the fellow is gonna be creating documents, burning them to cd and general web surfing | 02:58 |
| zeroedout | slow is acceptable for that machine | 02:59 |
| slooksterpsv | is there a way to change the theme on lxde where it changes the panel's look as well? | 03:29 |
| biffbaxter | you can right click on the panel and go to panel settings | 03:59 |
| biffbaxter | in there you can change the appearance to system theme, image, or color | 03:59 |
| Ascavasaion | Lubuntu downloaded and installed. It looks very nice sof ar. | 08:13 |
| gnewb | Good | 08:13 |
| gnewb | Is going to suprize you after you get the feel of it. | 08:14 |
| Ascavasaion | Thank you man, it runs nicely on my AMD Duron 1300MHz, 384Mb RAM and 20Gb HDD. I am tempted to install it onto by laptop with Centrino duo and 2Gb RAM. | 08:16 |
| gnewb | Ascavasaion: It will run great on that, should. What year is the BIOS on the laptop? | 08:18 |
| Ascavasaion | No idea, let me boot it. | 08:18 |
| gnewb | okee dokee | 08:18 |
| Unit193 | Year shouldn't matter as much as version | 08:20 |
| Ascavasaion | No idea what year the BIOS is/ | 08:21 |
| gnewb | Unit193: True that is, was just trying to get a 'feel' for the version. | 08:22 |
| gnewb | Ascavasaion: Should be skippy as it is , really not much or any bloat on a default install of Lubuntu or any LXDE that I have ever used. | 08:24 |
| Ascavasaion | Okies :) | 08:25 |
| slackmeister | good afternoon | 11:13 |
| MrChrisDruif | Aloha slackmeister | 11:14 |
| leszek | hi | 11:59 |
| nils_ | hello. which vnc server would you recommend for lubuntu? vino or rather x11-vnc? does vino have performance disadvantages over x11-vnc? | 12:47 |
| bioterror | x11-vnc maybe | 12:49 |
| nils_ | why? | 12:50 |
| leszek | they are using all the same protocol so why should there be a speed disadvantage ? | 12:51 |
| nils_ | well vino builts on gnome. lubuntu uses lxde. im wondering if installing a gnome application causes slower system performance because the system needs to run gnome then? | 12:54 |
| leszek | nils_: that is a wrong info you got | 12:55 |
| nils_ | can you explain me? | 12:55 |
| leszek | gnome is a desktop environment not a toolkit | 12:55 |
| nils_ | yes i am aware. but how can lubuntu run applications built for another desktop environment | 12:56 |
| leszek | this depends on the applications | 12:57 |
| leszek | the most applications are not build to need the whole desktop environment to run | 12:58 |
| leszek | they only depend on the used toolkit (mostly either gtk+ , qt & kde) | 12:58 |
| leszek | lxde & lubuntu is almost completely based upon gtk+ which is also used by 99% of the applications that are shipped with ubuntu-desktop | 12:59 |
| nils_ | I see, this means using gtk+ apps will not cause slower system performance | 13:00 |
| leszek | even using qt4 apps wont cause slower system performance | 13:00 |
| leszek | or even kde4 apps | 13:00 |
| nils_ | ok :) | 13:00 |
| leszek | as they don't load the complete desktop environment only the needed libraries | 13:00 |
| leszek | but kde4 apps tend to load more libraries than gtk apps ;) | 13:01 |
| leszek | bbl , I'll go grab something to eat ;) | 13:01 |
| nils_ | hey thanks for enlighting me :) | 13:02 |
| leszek | re | 13:27 |
| stlsaint | hyperair: ping | 17:50 |
| stlsaint | jmarsden: poke | 18:01 |
| mikeatvillage | I have Lubuntu 11.04 and Firefox 4.0.1 installed. Checkboxes in FF do not show a tick when clicked on, just a sunken effect. Would this be a FF problem or Lubuntu? | 18:54 |
| mikeatvillage | The work OK in Chromium. | 18:55 |
| kosaidpo| | mikeatvillage: i wud prefer to use chrmuim other than that i wud try dpkg-reconfigur firefox | 18:56 |
| mikeatvillage | Thanks, just done that but no improvement :-( | 19:01 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: Can you select another theme for Firefox? | 19:02 |
| mikeatvillage | Just tried a new theme, still no change :-( | 19:06 |
| kosaidpo| | mikeatvillage: can u remove it then install it even its not the good solution tho | 19:08 |
| Unit193 | bioterror: Is it safe to delete /var/log/kern.log? | 19:08 |
| bioterror | sure? | 19:08 |
| bioterror | it's just log | 19:08 |
| mikeatvillage | I'll try removing and reinstalling FF | 19:09 |
| Unit193 | bioterror: 15G... | 19:10 |
| bioterror | what?! | 19:10 |
| Unit193 | Yeah.... on a 33GB (40G) HDD... | 19:11 |
| stlsaint | bioterror: o/ | 19:13 |
| bioterror | hi stl | 19:13 |
| stlsaint | bioterror: nm, dipping my pinky toe into packaging | 19:17 |
| mikeatvillage | No change. I will remove FF again and download a non-ubuntu modified one.. | 19:17 |
| bioterror | use chromium | 19:18 |
| bioterror | it's the browser from future | 19:18 |
| stlsaint | +1 | 19:18 |
| Unit193 | Or Midori... (Chromium isn't that great...) | 19:19 |
| bioterror | hahaha | 19:19 |
| bioterror | midori is... | 19:19 |
| stlsaint | Unit193: HA | 19:19 |
| bioterror | not so feature rich | 19:19 |
| bioterror | use links -g | 19:19 |
| Unit193 | Midori = Small not best! | 19:19 |
| mikeatvillage | I need FF, but will look at these others too. Thanks. | 19:25 |
| mikeatvillage | Oh, Midori does not work properly ! | 19:28 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: It's a little buggy (but it seems to work fine for me) | 19:30 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit293: Did not warn me of non-secure site and hangs with a blank page after I enter name/password for protected parts of my websites :-( | 19:32 |
| stlsaint | tsk tsk, should have went with chromium ;) | 19:33 |
| mikeatvillage | Yes, I like Chromium, but need several others too. | 19:34 |
| Unit193 | You could always use Opera ;) | 19:34 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit293: I've had problems with Opera too :-( | 19:35 |
| mikeatvillage | Seems that every standards compliant browser is different (@)^(@) | 19:36 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: I get the same problem in Seamonkey as I do in Firefox! | 22:48 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: Try to change your GTK theme | 22:52 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: Sorry, how do i do that? | 22:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | gtk-theme? | 22:56 |
| mikeatvillage | I don't know what that is ... I'll Google | 22:57 |
| Unit193 | MrChrisDruif: Is it in Preferences > Customize Look and Feel? | 22:58 |
| Unit193 | This may tell: http://maketecheasier.com/theme-up-lubuntu/2011/02/11 (Changes more then just that too ;) ) | 22:58 |
| MrChrisDruif | Unit193: I think so, but I don't think it's GTK theme | 22:58 |
| bioterror | lxappearance | 22:59 |
| bioterror | for changing gtk themes | 22:59 |
| mikeatvillage | Oh, that :-) I'll tinker around with that then ... tomorrow, it's late. Many thanks for your help. | 22:59 |
| MrChrisDruif | OpenBox theme I think | 22:59 |
| Unit193 | Nope, that's gtk (Same thing bioterror posted) | 23:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well...it's alright with me :P | 23:01 |
| mikeatvillage | Running lxappearance brings up Customise Look & Feel :-) | 23:01 |
| mikeatvillage | Well, I couldn't wait to try it ... I get the problem with any theme which has embossed checkboxes, plain one will display the tick. Weird! :-) | 23:04 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: I think gnome-look has some gtk themes you can tryout | 23:05 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: Tomorrow, must sleep! :-) Thanks. | 23:06 |
| kosaidpo| | hello guys | 23:24 |
| kosaidpo| | i have live usb so can i jst upgrade and keep my apps ? | 23:24 |
| busigast | hey :) | 23:26 |
| busigast | i am considereing changing from norman ubuntu tu lubuntu, does lubuntu support the same programs as ubuntu ? | 23:26 |
| bioterror | sure | 23:27 |
| Unit193 | busigast: It uses the same repos, so you can install the same programs | 23:27 |
| bioterror | only the eyecandy is different | 23:27 |
| bioterror | and default programs are lighter | 23:27 |
| bioterror | and to be honest, we configure things with terminal ;-) | 23:27 |
| busigast | well uinity is not my cup of tea, and TWIL inspierd me tp try lubuntu | 23:28 |
| busigast | hehe, well im not that advanced in linux | 23:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | busigast: It's alright, we all started one day :) | 23:28 |
| busigast | yeah i love linux so far, why pay some evil corp for something that shoud be free (if you ask me) | 23:29 |
| kosaidpo| | guys can i upgrade without lossing my actual apps ? | 23:29 |
| kosaidpo| | none :O | 23:31 |
| busigast | kosaidpo|, i never lost my apps when upgrading ubuntu (eg from 10.04 to 10.10 etc) | 23:32 |
| busigast | but i am not shure with lubuntu | 23:32 |
| busigast | :/ | 23:32 |
| kosaidpo| | busigast: i mean i have live usb and ill do a fresh install so is there an option duin the installation to choos so ican keep my apps : ] i hop im clear | 23:33 |
| busigast | then i do not know )= maybe if you wait a sec someone else will answer =) | 23:34 |
| MrChrisDruif | kosaidpo|: Fresh installing means fresh installing...however...you could save your list with a command and restore that... | 23:36 |
| MrChrisDruif | kosaidpo|: Quick google search helped me: "dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt" to save it (default saving location is ~/ or your Home folder. cd to an other location to save it somewhere else | 23:39 |
| MrChrisDruif | (Changing selections.txt to ~/Documents/selections.txt should also do the trick afaik) | 23:40 |
| kosaidpo| | MrChrisDruif: i dont see any ponit if ill reinstalll em : ] | 23:40 |
| kosaidpo| | MrChrisDruif: hang on ill show u ij jst need to find it | 23:41 |
| MrChrisDruif | And restoring dpkg --set-selections < selections.txt | 23:41 |
| MrChrisDruif | followed by dselect update and apt-get dselect-upgrade show give you back your installed packages. | 23:41 |
| kosaidpo| | with that cmmd ill get the packages of jst their names ?? | 23:41 |
| busigast | just installed lubuntu in virtualbox :D looking verry verry good | 23:43 |
| MrChrisDruif | kosaidpo|: The first will save the names in the right format to a file. The rest is for restoring | 23:43 |
| MrChrisDruif | You could even name it package.list (I've heard that one before) | 23:44 |
| kosaidpo| | MrChrisDruif: hat i mean when ill run my live usb will i find an option say upgrade to 11.04 and install so ican choose btw em cus isaw this in ubuntu so im wondeing | 23:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yes you can choose upgrade, but that wouldn't make a fresh install would it? :) | 23:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | Oops... | 23:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | I'm not sure about Lubuntu, but with Ubuntu it does | 23:46 |
| kosaidpo| | well from wht the word means wudnt :D | 23:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | :P | 23:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright, shutting down...quarter to one here (AM) | 23:47 |
| kosaidpo| | MrChrisDruif: same here | 23:47 |
| busigast | norway ? :P | 23:47 |
| MrChrisDruif | busigast: Holland :) | 23:48 |
| busigast | ahh atleast same timezone :D | 23:48 |
| MrChrisDruif | xD | 23:48 |
| kosaidpo| | peace out guys | 23:51 |
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