[00:02] <MrChrisDruif> cfhansen: Ubuntu LiveCD has it by default
[00:02] <cfhansen> I installed from the web, sadly
[00:02] <MrChrisDruif> From web? MiniCD?
[00:04] <Error404NotFound> put it on a flash drive
[00:04] <Error404NotFound> if you cant burn a disk
[00:04] <cfhansen> Error404: That's what I did with the original ubuntu install
[00:04] <cfhansen> I'll probably do the same for this
[00:04] <Error404NotFound> if you have it on a flash use it as a live cd
[00:05] <Error404NotFound>   i forgot how to switch to classic mode already...
[00:06] <cfhansen> Error404: Log out and you should see a few menus at the bottom of the screen; select classic from one of them
[00:06] <Pac_Man> when you select a user, just change the session mode
[00:06] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFound: Log out, click your account, select in the bottom classic desktop, input password > GO!
[00:06] <MrChrisDruif> xD
[00:07] <MrChrisDruif> Teamwork everyone :D
[00:13] <Error404NotFound> ffs
[00:13] <Error404NotFound> someone in here told me how to reinstall grub2
[00:13] <Error404NotFound> and i forgot
[00:16] <Pac_Man> sudo apt-get?
[00:17] <MrChrisDruif> sudo grub-update?
[00:17] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFound: ^
[00:17] <Pac_Man> i have no idea, its a guess, whats grub? :P
[00:18] <Error404NotFound> grand unified bootloader
[00:18] <MrChrisDruif> Pac_Man: That ;)
[00:18] <Pac_Man> and in english? ^^
[00:21] <MrChrisDruif> Pac_Man: It's a piece of software used to select between multi-boot systems; e.g. Windows and Ubuntu on the same machine :)
[00:22] <Pac_Man> ah, i see
[00:22] <Pac_Man> i guess i didnt stumble into it yet since i just screw around using VMware
[00:24] <MrChrisDruif> That helps :)
[00:27] <Error404NotFound> ok now im pissed
[00:27] <Error404NotFound> and want to smash this pos
[00:29] <Error404NotFound> this shit doesnt even think i have ubuntu installed...
[00:30] <MrChrisDruif> Weird <_<"
[00:36] <Error404NotFound> yay i fixed it
[00:38] <MrChrisDruif> Great :)
[00:38] <MrChrisDruif> What was needed Error404NotFound ?
[00:41] <Error404NotFound> idk wtf
[00:42] <Error404NotFound> it did it on my desktop too
[00:42] <Error404NotFound> had windows already installed b4 installing ubuntu and grub didnt work
[00:42] <Error404NotFound> so i reinstalled and it works fine now
[00:47] <Error404NotFound> ok why is my computer takin a week to reboot...
[00:48] <MrChrisDruif> Because of hardware failure?
[00:48] <Error404NotFound> was doing an update then said you have to reboot
[01:20] <rror404NotFound> wth
[01:21] <rror404NotFound> moo
[01:21] <rror404NotFound> erm
[01:33] <Error404NotFound> man i hate firefox
[01:36] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFound: Me too, well hate is a big word. I "don
[01:36] <MrChrisDruif> 't like it"
[01:43] <Error404NotFound> i want ie 9 for linux ffs
[02:02] <Error404NotFound> how do you show hidden files again
[02:05] <MrChrisDruif> In nautilus or terminal? ;)
[02:06] <MrChrisDruif> Nautilus Ctrl + H afaik, terminal -a option
[02:08] <Error404NotFound> nautilus
[02:08] <Error404NotFound> how do i get to that again lol
[02:09] <MrChrisDruif> I thought Alt + Home would open it in Home folder
[02:10] <MrChrisDruif> And otherwise just got to any of the Places :)
[02:11] <Error404NotFound> i give up
[02:11] <Error404NotFound> i did this all once already today
[02:11] <Error404NotFound> and forgot how
[02:12] <Error404NotFound> i think holstein told me how to do it
[02:26] <eiriksvin> holstein got any ideas on how to install ubuntu on a ACPI x64 based PC?
[02:27] <eiriksvin> anybody?
[02:32] <Error404NotFound> wtf is acpi
[02:33] <MrChrisDruif> It's got to do with Power Management
[02:34] <eiriksvin> yeah, and im getting frustrated with it
[02:34] <Error404NotFound> how do you know if yer pc is acpi
[02:35] <eiriksvin> if ou have windows itll tell u in the hardware>computer>
[02:35] <eiriksvin> in the control panel
[02:36] <eiriksvin> its making me grrrr
[02:37] <cprofitt> acpi is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface
[02:37] <cprofitt> just an advanced power management set of features
[02:41] <eiriksvin> is there a clean work around?
[02:42] <eiriksvin> my sister wants Ubuntu, but her man is a winblows dependant
[02:42] <Error404NotFound> lol
[02:42] <eiriksvin> heh
[02:43] <cprofitt> eiriksvin: you could dual-boot
[02:44] <cprofitt> what processor and how much ram does the machine have?
 i have tried Live CD and Wubi, both have the same problem saying the root files cant be located
[02:46] <Error404NotFound> lol
[02:46] <Error404NotFound> when you format the damn thing
[02:46] <cprofitt> odd... never heard of that error... almost sounds like a bad download or burn
[02:46] <Error404NotFound> where it says directory or what not
[02:46] <cprofitt> Error404NotFound: please be a little less abrassive
[02:46] <Error404NotFound> drop down list
[02:47] <Error404NotFound> choose
[02:47] <Error404NotFound> ./
[02:47] <Error404NotFound> no .
[02:47] <eiriksvin> its ACPI x64 based on intel quad core
[02:47] <Error404NotFound> i loled cuz i just went through that yesterday
[02:47] <cprofitt> Error404NotFound: ok
[02:48] <cprofitt> sounds like you can help eiriksvin through this then
[02:49] <Error404NotFound> eiriksvin:
[02:49] <Error404NotFound> you see what i said?]
[02:49] <eiriksvin> what do i have to do? make a partition with something?
[02:49] <cprofitt> I am going to get some sleep all -- night
[02:49] <Error404NotFound> you cAN USE UBUNTU TO FORMAT
[02:49] <eiriksvin> heh, im really tired, and feeling dummy
[02:50] <Error404NotFound> format the main partition with ext4
[02:50] <Error404NotFound> leave like 5 gigs or so for swap
[02:50] <Error404NotFound> are you dual booting?
[02:51] <eiriksvin> it dont show how to set my partitions and stuff
[02:51] <Error404NotFound> if you hit install to hdd
[02:51] <Error404NotFound> it will give you option to create and format partition
[02:52] <eiriksvin> mine just says install now
[02:52] <eiriksvin> there no option
[02:52] <Error404NotFound> if you dont see how
[02:52] <Error404NotFound> use g parted
[02:52] <Error404NotFound> you see a lil check box by the partition
[02:52] <Error404NotFound> says format?
[02:52] <eiriksvin> i tried, but it says root filesystem not found
[02:53] <escott> eiriksvin, if you booted the live cd i think you can use gparted from the livecd prior to going into the boot
[02:53] <eiriksvin> or something like that
[02:53] <Error404NotFound> i know!
[02:53] <escott> go into the install i mean
[02:53] <Error404NotFound> ddo it again
[02:53] <Error404NotFound> choose to format as ext4
[02:53] <escott> once you start the install there may be an option if you use the entire disk to set things up
[02:53] <eiriksvin> ok, ok.. i get it... so which do i use i386?
[02:53] <Error404NotFound> then in the lil drop down list it will say /root
[02:53] <Error404NotFound> or /home
[02:54] <Error404NotFound> 386 is 32 bit isnt it?
[02:54] <eiriksvin> i got intel quad on this one
[02:54] <Error404NotFound> then you want 64 bit
[02:55] <eiriksvin> ok, good thing i brought both disks
[02:55] <eiriksvin> amd?
[02:55] <slooksterpsv> yup 386 is a 32-bit cpu
[02:55] <eiriksvin> so i use amd64 in intel?
[02:56] <Error404NotFound> was only option i seen
[02:56] <Error404NotFound> i have an intel quad core
[02:56] <tepster> i want an octo core
[02:57] <Error404NotFound> lol
[02:57] <eiriksvin> oh, heh... wow theres alot of stuff, i have installed ubuntu on 3 different pooters all 3 had different stuff in em, yet all 3 are amd64 run
[02:57] <Error404NotFound> quad core is good enough for about 99% of users
[02:57] <tepster> remember when we used to talk in ghz?
[02:58] <tepster> i want a 4ghz processor
[02:58] <eiriksvin> i remeber waiting a whole year to get another home pc cus Quake 2 couldnt play on our 233mhz at home:)
[02:59] <eiriksvin> we had to get a 500mhz
[02:59] <eiriksvin> heh
 ok gimme a step by step so i can write it down plz
[03:00] <tepster> hehe
[03:00] <Error404NotFound> first computer i really used was a 750 mhz
[03:00] <tepster> i need a co-processor
[03:00] <Error404NotFound> gateway ftl
[03:00] <tepster> a math co-coprocessor
[03:01] <Error404NotFound> i dont know step by step man
[03:01] <tepster> to help my main processor in..math
[03:01] <Error404NotFound> i just know what yer doin wrong
[03:01] <eiriksvin> durn
[03:01] <Error404NotFound> you doin a clean install of ubuntu yes?
[03:01] <Error404NotFound> no dual boot
[03:01] <eiriksvin> nope i gotta make it dual boot
[03:01] <Error404NotFound> windows installed already?
[03:01] <eiriksvin> yep
[03:02] <Error404NotFound> you need g parted
[03:02] <Error404NotFound> to take space from windows partition
[03:02] <eiriksvin> right, i got my ubuntu live for that
[03:02] <Error404NotFound> you got space for ubuntu then>?
[03:02] <eiriksvin> but i have never ran gparted b 4
[03:02] <Error404NotFound> its easy
[03:02] <eiriksvin> so give me an idea what to look for
[03:03] <eiriksvin> plenty of space
[03:03] <Error404NotFound> pretty much click on main windows partition
[03:03] <Error404NotFound> and hit recover space or some thing like that
[03:04] <eiriksvin> ok, so imma drop 250gb into the recover space area
[03:04] <Error404NotFound> you need to create 2 partitions out of thayt
[03:04] <Error404NotFound> that*
[03:04] <eiriksvin> one for win and one for ubuntu
[03:05] <Error404NotFound> windows will not be affected
[03:05] <Error404NotFound> you are simply taking hdd space away from windows
[03:05] <eiriksvin> ive got over 500gb to work with, but i thought id split it down the middle
[03:05] <Error404NotFound> you need 2 partitions for ubuntu
[03:05] <Error404NotFound> so allocate the 250 gigs
[03:05] <Error404NotFound> will say unallocated space
[03:06] <Error404NotFound> click on it and format like 5 gigs as swap
[03:06] <Error404NotFound> and then the rest format as ext4
[03:07] <eiriksvin> is that where windows will be, inside ext4?
[03:07] <Error404NotFound> no
[03:07] <eiriksvin> oh, itll be in  unallocated?
[03:07] <Error404NotFound> unallocated is yer new crap for ubuntu
[03:07] <eiriksvin> hmm, so what ur sayin is:
[03:08] <eiriksvin> im pulling 250 out of the hdd for ubuntu
[03:08] <eiriksvin> 5 for swap
[03:08] <Error404NotFound> yep
[03:08] <eiriksvin> how big should ext4 be?
[03:08] <eiriksvin> is that the 250?
[03:08] <Error404NotFound> thats the main partition
[03:09] <Error404NotFound> ext4 is to linux as ntfs is to windows
[03:09] <eiriksvin> hah, ohhh
[03:09] <eiriksvin> doh!
[03:10] <eiriksvin> now do i select all of this on the same screen, or one at a time?
[03:10] <Error404NotFound> did you create 2 partitions out of the 250gb?
[03:10] <eiriksvin> i can do it on windows?
[03:10] <Error404NotFound> no
[03:10] <Error404NotFound> gparted
[03:11] <Error404NotFound> didnt you say you installed ubuntu 2 times already today?
[03:11] <eiriksvin> um, im gonna have to restart into the live cd then, and take a look
[03:11] <Error404NotFound> i actualy downloaded gparted
[03:11] <eiriksvin> yeah, but i uninstalled them
[03:11] <Error404NotFound> and burn to cd
[03:12] <eiriksvin> how about if i run the trial and run gparted through that?
[03:12] <eiriksvin> will it do the duty?
[03:12] <Error404NotFound> i would imagine lol
[03:13] <escott> eiriksvin, yes you can do it that way
[03:13] <eiriksvin> ok here goes, if it dont look right... ill just come back and ask
[03:52] <eiriksvin> Error404 im in ubuntu live and i got gparted running its wingding off, but its doing the do
[03:53] <escott> eiriksvin, if you are resizing an NTFS partition to make room for windows I would recommend booting windows at least once prior to installing ubuntu
[03:54] <escott> make room for ubuntu that is
[03:54] <eiriksvin> ok, will do... its done and everythings set up
[03:54] <escott> its probably not required, but windows likes to check its filesystem
[03:54] <Error404NotFound> yes it does
[03:54] <eiriksvin> yeah i know, but dont do the system restore:)
[03:54] <Error404NotFound> and yer prolly gonna have a problem with grub
[03:55] <eiriksvin> but will it install now?
[03:55] <Error404NotFound> ubuntu will install
[03:55] <Error404NotFound> but the first time you reboot its gonna auto load windows
[03:57] <eiriksvin> yeah, i figured so, but so long as i dont system restore, i should be good right?
[03:57] <Error404NotFound> after you reinstall grub yeah
[03:57] <eiriksvin> kk here goes:)
[05:44] <clipper> what is an ubuntu live cd constantly popping up report problem dialogs indicative of?
[05:51] <atari314> I'm not sure if I'm on the right place to ask it, but I'm trying to build a minimal ubuntu install (I mean, really minimal, only the ubuntu-minimal meta-package). Trying the mini.iso install I get a lot more than that (prolly ubuntu-standard, etc). Is there any way to restrict the install just to ubuntu-minimal meta-package?
[06:18] <holstein> atari314: i have used the alternate CD
[06:18] <holstein> for a CLI only instal
[06:18] <holstein> l
[06:18] <holstein> is that more than you want?
[06:18] <bioterror> when I was younger, ubuntu only an alternate install
[06:18] <holstein> :)
[06:19] <atari314> yes, that isntall force me to download the ubuntu-standard package + other random ones
[06:19] <bioterror> +was
[06:19] <holstein> none of these fangled live cd's ;p
[06:19] <atari314> I just want the ubuntu-minimal (meta-package)
[06:19] <bioterror> I'm not really following what you are atari314 after
[06:19] <bioterror> there's no such thing
[06:19] <holstein> CLI is pretty tiny
[06:20] <atari314> not tiny enough >.<
[06:20] <holstein> i didnt do the math, but its rather minimal
[06:20] <bioterror> there's ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, edubuntu, mythbuntu and and
[06:20] <atari314> http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/ubuntu-minimal + my kernel + my bootloader
[06:20] <atari314> that is what I'm after
[06:21] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[06:21] <holstein> maybe you could use that and something like remastersys?
[06:21] <bioterror> atari314, what's your bootloader?
[06:21] <atari314> I hook it on my grub2 host
[06:23] <atari314> the remastersys, tried that a few hours ago... ruled out for some reason... let me recheck here
[06:24] <atari314> tryed UCK too
[06:26] <atari314> oh yeah, the remastersys have 2 problems, 3 deps I can't met, (gnome/x), and my host enviroment is the oposite from what I need on the target one. So the remastersys would just clone the enviroment I don't want.
[06:27] <atari314> I was trying to chroot (deboostrap/multistrap) a partition and following from there
[06:27] <holstein> chroot is probably the way to go
[06:27] <atari314> but, ironically, both debootstrap and multistrap downloads the ubuntu-minimal (I want) and the ubuntu-standard (I don't want) :(
[06:28] <atari314> do you know if I can apt-get install targeting the chroot enviroment?
[06:28] <holstein> AFAIK
[06:28] <atari314> or if I can call the apt-get from the host machine inside the empty chroot'd enviroment?
[06:28] <holstein> i think thats another reason why folks use the chroot method
[06:29] <atari314> uhn, great :) so this is prolly the right way ^^
[06:29] <atari314> tks for the info :)
[06:30] <holstein> thats what i was told*
[06:30] <holstein> i havent actually gotten around to doing it first hand
[06:30] <atari314> well, we're about to find out now
[06:30] <holstein> :)
[06:46] <atari314> holstein, just as feedback, the # schroot -c karmic -u root apt-get install zlib1g-dev # is how :)
[06:47] <atari314> or, in my case, schroot -c natty -u root apt-get install ubuntu-minimal
[06:47] <atari314> (requires some conf on /etc/schroot/schroot.conf
[08:10] <kristian_> hi ppl
[08:11] <kristian_> is there an upper limit to the hdd size you can put in a box? I'm thinking of getting a used thinkcentre and use it as a server, it would suck if it only would accept hdd's up to a certain size...
[08:13] <atari314> the biggest I've saw was 16tb with solaris and raid
[08:13] <kristian_> that's a lot ;)
[08:13] <kristian_> I read that some old laptops will only take up to this or that
[08:14] <atari314> dunno any hard cap for that, but you'd have to worry using the proper HD-rpm for your notebook-mobo
[08:15] <atari314> and the HD kind, ata/sata/ssd
[15:20] <holstein> http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames
[15:20] <holstein> anyone bored want to look at that with me?
[15:21] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know what you want to look at/do with that page holstein :)
[15:22] <holstein> im looking for a dual head graphics card
[15:22] <holstein> id like to use an open driver
[15:22] <holstein> gaming is not really important
[15:22] <holstein> or 3d
[15:22] <holstein> but it would be nice*
[15:23] <holstein> this will put it in perspective
[15:23] <MrChrisDruif> Fermi is supported??
[15:23] <holstein> if intel made PCIe graphics cards
[15:23] <holstein> that would work for me
[15:23] <holstein> performance wise*
[15:26] <holstein> fermi is what im unclear about MrChrisDruif
[15:27] <holstein> in the 'all sorts of fun' section
[15:27] <holstein> you think thats ironic?
[15:27] <holstein> like, 'all sorts of fun trying to get these things to work'
[15:27] <MrChrisDruif> xD
[15:28] <MrChrisDruif> But I'm not really bored, sorry
[15:28] <holstein> lol
[15:28] <holstein> MrChrisDruif: thanks for indulging me for a minute anyways :)
[15:28] <MrChrisDruif> :D
[15:42] <Froq> What is a program that will monitor my hdd status/ health?
[15:44] <holstein> Froq: theres a disk utility
[15:45] <holstein> in the menu
[15:45] <holstein> or was*
[15:45] <holstein> system - administration - disk utility
[15:45] <Froq> holstein: thanks sir!  How you been?
[15:45] <holstein> Froq: im good :)
[15:45] <Froq> playing some good Bass lately?
[15:46] <holstein> yup
[15:46] <holstein> got a concert tonite
[15:46] <holstein> and one this weekend that'll be nice
[16:06] <Froq> man I really love Ubuntu guys, but this VNC buggy ness is killing me.  I so often VNC when away
[16:07] <holstein> Froq: xtightvnc ?
[16:07] <holstein> server or client?
[16:07] <holstein> i like remmina
[16:13] <Froq> holstein: server.  the ubuntu meachine is the server.
[16:14] <holstein> Froq: how many servers have you tried?
[16:14] <holstein> different server software*
[16:20] <Froq> holstein: I have only tried the vino that comes on Ubuntu.
[16:20] <Froq> remmina?!  I will definitely look into that one!  & I have tried xtightvnc.  didnt' do too well
[16:21] <holstein> Froq: try teamviewer too
[16:21] <holstein> that seems stable
[16:21] <Froq> I thought teamviewer was html stuff?
[16:22] <holstein> its commercial proprietary VNC
[16:22] <holstein> basically
[16:22] <holstein> works well though
[16:22] <holstein> and the personal use version is free
[16:22] <Froq> holstein: o wow!  See, I know about logmein, and I hate that.  It just doesn't go very well If feel  But I am going to look into teamviwer!  thanks
[16:22] <Froq> and remmina!  that one sounds cool @ least!  haha
[16:23] <Froq> but to install team viewer do I need to install wine first?!  it doesn't run on linux natively, only through emmulation?
[16:23] <holstein> nah
[16:23] <holstein> it seems to pull in its own wine libs*
[16:23] <holstein> maybe im just seeing it wrong
[16:25] <Froq> oo sweet, so I don't have to install Wine too, that is cool.
[16:52] <atari314> Hello guys, anyone have experience  customizing Live-CDs? I'm looking for some info over adding a installer to it (ubiquity/debconf, I'm kinda lost).
[17:10] <mang0> Holstein?
[17:40] <Error404NotFoun1> holstein
[17:40] <Error404NotFoun1> bioterror
[17:42] <Error404NotFoun1> can anyone help me with firefox?
[17:42] <atari314> what's your problem there?
[17:43] <Error404NotFoun1> i get a blank box in ff when i start it
[17:43] <Error404NotFoun1> sayd xmarks when i click on it
[17:43] <Error404NotFoun1> says*
[17:43] <Error404NotFoun1> tells me to sign into xmarks
[17:44] <atari314> I used xmarks (ex-foxmarks) on Firefox long ago
[17:44] <Error404NotFoun1> how do i gegt rid of it
[17:44] <atari314> U need to fully setup your account
[17:45] <atari314> that blank box is the iframe that they use to ajax > server-request > your bookmarks
[17:45] <Error404NotFoun1> i dont want to
[17:45] <Error404NotFoun1> i want it gone
[17:46] <atari314> Do you want to remove xmarks? Or keep xmarks and remove the blank box?
[17:48] <Error404NotFoun1> remove xmarks completely
[17:50] <atari314> Open the Tools menu, click the option Addons, select the tab Extensions, look for Xmarks, click remove it on the right side.
[17:51] <atari314> If you're using ubuntu 11.04 with Unity, the tools menu will apear when you move your mouse over the dark bar on the absolute top of the screen
[17:51] <Error404NotFoun1> you are brilliant
[17:51] <Error404NotFoun1> i couldnt find that crap
[17:51] <Error404NotFoun1> i was tryint to remove it in programs
[17:52] <atari314> yes, that feature in unity is a bloody pain... too much "mac os x" for me too :(
[17:53] <stlsaint> heyo folks
[17:54] <atari314> http://pastebin.com/bJuYwFJP (txt.cfg from the mini.iso alternate install) anyone have any info about the string "append tasks=standard pkgsel/language-pack-patterns= pkgsel/install-language-support=false vga=788 initrd=initrd.gz -- quiet" parameter? Any doc about it? (I know, this is a long shot)
[17:55] <stlsaint> nope sorry
[17:55] <atari314> tks tho :)
[17:56] <atari314> not even the guys on #ubuntu-installer know that >.< (oh... I'm screwed)
[17:57] <juancdavila>  I have upgraded to 11.04 and now cannot drag icons to the desktop, I get an error while copying "There was an error getting information about "/."
[17:58] <stlsaint> juancdavila: are you using a seperate / partition
[17:59] <juancdavila> no
[17:59] <DraZoro> I received a very warm welcome from the the members of Ubuntu Beginners. Thanks every keep one I am learning a lot.  :)
[18:00] <DraZoro> Thanks to everyone.
[18:00] <stlsaint> DraZoro: heyo
[18:00] <stlsaint> juancdavila: i would check fstab to see it is mounted correctly
[18:00] <DraZoro> stlsaint: Hello
[18:01] <stlsaint> DraZoro: sup sup
[18:01] <DraZoro> stlsaint: I am doing ok just exam stress.
[18:01] <stlsaint> DraZoro: university?
[18:01] <juancdavila> stlsaint, true beginner how do I do that?
[18:01] <DraZoro> stlsaint: Yes
[18:02] <stlsaint> juancdavila:
[18:02] <stlsaint> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[18:03] <juancdavila> stlsaint, thanks I will check it out
[18:05] <DraZoro> stlsaint: Yes University
[18:09] <DraZoro> Do I have to re-introduce myself in ubuntu-beginners@list.ubuntu.com ? I noticed last time I forgot to give details to my launchpad and wiki pages (I have not yet created wiki).
[18:11] <pleia2> DraZoro: you can just reply to the first email you sent with links
[18:11] <DraZoro> pleia2: Thanks
[18:12] <juancdavila> stlsaint, it appears that it is mounted correctly it shows up in my home folder and i can double click on it to open it
[18:12] <mang0> holstein?
[18:23] <DraZoro> When it comes to applying for a guide. Is it open for everyone or for people who have been involved in projects before ?
[18:27] <pleia2> DraZoro: you probably want to join #ubuntu-beginners-team for these questions (this is the support channel)
[18:28] <pleia2> DraZoro: but yes, you can apply for a guide
[18:28] <bioterror> Error404NotFoun1, what
[18:28] <Error404NotFoun1> someone helped me already thanks anyways bioterror
[18:29] <bioterror> k
[18:30] <Error404NotFoun1> is it possible to play windows games in linux?
[18:30] <Error404NotFoun1> like emulator or something
[18:30] <coalwater> try wine
[18:30] <Error404NotFoun1> i dont like wine, i like vodka
[18:31] <Error404NotFoun1> where do i get it?
[18:31] <coalwater> well, wine is the name of the program
[18:31] <coalwater> software center
[18:31] <Error404NotFoun1> i know just being a smart ass
[18:32] <bioterror> !wine | Error404NotFoun1
[18:32] <ubot2> Error404NotFoun1: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[18:32] <Error404NotFoun1> im in stalling now
[18:32] <coalwater> thats a nice bot
[18:33] <coalwater> !banshee | coalwater
[18:33] <ubot2> coalwater, please see my private message
[18:33] <Error404NotFoun1> erm i hate banshee
[18:33] <Error404NotFoun1> uninstalled it right away
[18:34] <coalwater> yea, i hate it too, i liked the old rhythmbox :(
[18:34] <Error404NotFoun1> i installed rhythmbox
[18:34] <Error404NotFoun1> when i played a song in banshee it played it twice at the same time a few seconds apart...
[18:34] <DraZoro> pleia2: Thanks I have mixed the channels all alone I will jump to #ubuntu-beginners-team ?
[18:35] <Error404NotFoun1> is this wine program hart to use?
[18:35] <Error404NotFoun1> hard even
[18:35] <pleia2> DraZoro: to be in both channels at once just /join #ubuntu-beginners-team
[18:36] <coalwater> no, just double click and exe and that's it
[18:36] <Error404NotFoun1> sweet
[18:36] <Error404NotFoun1> full compatibility?
[18:36] <coalwater> it doesn't work perfectly with every thing though
[18:37] <coalwater> gotta go,restarting
[18:40] <Error404NotFoun1> anyone in here know how to use wine?
[18:40] <bioterror> double click setup.exe in your nautilus
[18:40] <bioterror> and clicketi click
[18:41] <bioterror> install game as you want
[18:41] <Error404NotFoun1> i get errors
[18:41] <bioterror> read winehq
[18:41] <bioterror> it has game db
[18:41] <Error404NotFoun1> where do i find that..
[18:42] <bioterror> if you open your browser, you can write "winehq"
[18:42] <mang0> !winehq
[18:42] <ubot2> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu
[18:43] <DraZoro>  Error404NotFoun1: Also check where the file is stored. Sometime you might need to change execution permission to the file (*.exe) $sudo chmod +x <exutable_file>
[18:43]  * DraZoro ubot2 is amazing 
[18:47] <Error404NotFoun1> wine cfg doesnt see my dvd drive
[18:49] <atari314> have you setup'd it with winecfg before?
[18:51] <Error404NotFoun1> this crap says i need to dl the application
[18:52] <atari314> sudo apt-get install wine && winecfg
[18:52] <atari314> (will install wine and call the winecfg configutor for it)
[18:53] <atari314> the winecfg is a windows (like windows) where you can go tab to tab setting up wine and the data for the emulations
[18:53] <Error404NotFoun1> i am a linux retard so talk to me like im a 5 yr old
[18:54] <atari314> can you open a terminal window (from accessories > terminal)?
[18:54] <Error404NotFoun1> yes
[18:54] <Error404NotFoun1> i have wine installed
[18:54] <Error404NotFoun1> trying to configure to see my dvd drive
[18:54] <Error404NotFoun1> to install a game
[18:54] <atari314> open a terminal and type winecfg
[18:55] <atari314> that will call a wine configurator window
[18:55] <Error404NotFoun1> yeah
[18:55] <Error404NotFoun1> says i can add a drive to it but i dont know the drive letter for my dvd
[18:55] <atari314> there should be a tab with the disk/hd lists, and on that tab there should a auto-detect
[18:56] <atari314> *an auto-detect button
[18:56] <atari314> press it and it will fill your hd and media there with the following C:/D:/E:/F: letter that windows use
[18:56] <Error404NotFoun1> a c h and z
[18:57] <atari314> great, now one of those should be something like this /media/cdroom
[18:57] <Error404NotFoun1> nope
[18:57] <Error404NotFoun1> just floppy
[18:57]  * mang0|NOMMIN phones holstein
[18:57]  * mang0|NOMMIN ring ring, ring ring
[18:57] <atari314> just asking, which game are you trying to install?
[18:58] <Error404NotFoun1> command and conquer red alert 3
[18:58]  * mang0|NOMMIN ring ring, ring...ring....'The Person You are calling, is unavailable. Please leave a message after the tone." *beeeeep*
[18:58] <atari314> a good call :) uhn, lets try a different approach
[18:59] <atari314> on your desktop there should be the icon from the C&CRA3
[18:59] <Error404NotFoun1> negative
[18:59] <Error404NotFoun1> nothing  on my desktop
[19:00] <atari314> oh sigh... the Unity attacks again...
[19:00] <Error404NotFoun1> im using classic
[19:00] <atari314> ok, open your Home folder
[19:00] <Error404NotFoun1> ok
[19:00]  * mang0|NOMMIN PICK UP HOLSTEIN
[19:01] <atari314> on the left menu, do you see the DVD there?
[19:01] <mang0|NOMMIN> the dude is not in
[19:01] <mang0|NOMMIN> grr
[19:01] <Error404NotFoun1> nope
[19:02] <atari314> is your DVD-drive USB?
[19:02] <Error404NotFoun1> nope
[19:02] <Error404NotFoun1> sata
[19:02] <atari314> weird, for some reason ubuntu did not mounted your dvd media
[19:02] <Error404NotFoun1> if i go to computer i see it
[19:03] <Error404NotFoun1> and my blu ray drive
[19:03] <atari314> uhn
[19:04] <atari314> well... not sure how to fix this, I'm stucked in a problem that look like that, but my dvd is usb and not even the ubuntu 11.04 installer is getting it...
[19:05] <Error404NotFoun1> the drive does work, if i put the game in it sees it
[19:05] <Error404NotFoun1> i just want this crap to work so i can whipe out windows 7
[19:06] <atari314> uhn, so double click it to open the content of the DVD
[19:06] <Error404NotFoun1> and
[19:07] <atari314> there inside should be a setup.exe somewhere
[19:07] <Error404NotFoun1> yup
[19:07] <atari314> nope?
[19:07] <atari314> double click it and the .exe will be recognized as to be execute from wine
[19:07] <atari314> that should call the install window of the game
[19:07] <Error404NotFoun1> error
[19:08] <atari314> which error?
[19:08] <Error404NotFoun1> Archive:  /media/RA3/AutoRun.exe
[19:08] <Error404NotFoun1> [/media/RA3/AutoRun.exe]
[19:08] <Error404NotFoun1>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[19:08] <Error404NotFoun1>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[19:08] <Error404NotFoun1>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[19:08] <Error404NotFoun1>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[19:08] <Error404NotFoun1> zipinfo:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /media/RA3/AutoRun.exe or
[19:08] <Error404NotFoun1>           /media/RA3/AutoRun.exe.zip, and cannot find /media/RA3/AutoRun.exe.ZIP, period.
[19:08] <eiriksvin> anyone here got MagicJack working on Natty?
[19:08] <Error404NotFoun1> whoa
[19:08] <Error404NotFoun1> ooh id like my magic jack to work on ubuntu
[19:09] <eiriksvin> Ubuntu picked it up fine, but Magic Jack is saying it cant be on a USB hub, and its not (but i do have one of those too)
[19:10] <Error404NotFoun1> natty seen it as a flash drive on my computer..
[19:11] <Error404NotFoun1> if you get it to work i wanna know dude
[19:11] <Error404NotFoun1> that would be sweet
 yeah, im looking and the guides are old and telling me to install some windows stuff, but im looking for a good clean guide
[19:14] <Error404NotFoun1> cool
 when i do get it done, ill make a youtube video and post it:)
[19:14] <Error404NotFoun1> sweet
[19:14] <Error404NotFoun1> i was to;ld it wouldnt work on linux
[19:16] <eiriksvin> hey, you should get Desktop Recorder and OpenShot Video Editor and we could start throwing up how to videos to add instructional video posts in here
[19:16] <eiriksvin> thats my idea
[19:17] <eiriksvin> that way we can have somone put them into a video bot, just like the help bot
[19:17] <eiriksvin> and we could search for smooth videos made by others that really build it up
[19:19] <eiriksvin> beginners + videos = Very Easy Help!
[19:20] <stlsaint> eiriksvin: we have a ubuntu screencast team already in place if you are interested in joining/contributing
[19:20] <eiriksvin> would i?!
[19:21] <eiriksvin> i could throw up like probably 10 videos within a couple weeks
[19:22] <eiriksvin> i know i cant be the only person who has bought a Belkin USB adapter that uses Ubuntu (theres 1)
[19:22] <eiriksvin> plus their Wifi adapter (of which i had to run Native)
[19:23] <Error404NotFoun1> ffs this is angering me
[19:24] <eiriksvin> The downgrade to nVIDIA 173, and signs to look for telling them if thats the problem (for natty cus Reccomended dont work on some boxes)
[19:24] <stlsaint> eiriksvin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam
[19:24] <stlsaint> eiriksvin: the team is headed by someone on this very team ;)
[19:24] <Error404NotFoun1> my nvidia works fine
[19:24] <eiriksvin> oooohh nice
[19:25] <Error404NotFoun1> to change directory you just E:\
[19:25] <Error404NotFoun1> in terminal yes?
 yeah but not everyones does, my moms is good, mine isn't, and my sisters computer still cant install cus it says "No root filesystem is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[19:27] <Error404NotFoun1> i got that last error
[19:27] <Error404NotFoun1> easy fix
[19:28] <Error404NotFoun1> when you hit to format to ext4
[19:28] <Error404NotFoun1> there is a drop down list yes?
[19:28] <Error404NotFoun1> eiriksvin:
 i used gparted to set the partitions, but the installer wont see the partitions
[19:29] <eiriksvin> it dont even show the ones that are there at all
[19:29] <Error404NotFoun1> ooh
[19:30] <Error404NotFoun1> but if you run gparted again you can see em?
[19:30] <eiriksvin> yepp!
[19:30] <Error404NotFoun1> formated ext4 and a swap?
[19:30] <eiriksvin> yep
[19:31] <Error404NotFoun1> erm ima try to duplicate that error to tell you what i did
[19:31] <Error404NotFoun1> on my old p4 system
[19:31] <eiriksvin> the ext4 said it was mounted on /media/bla bla
[19:31] <eiriksvin> bla bla being a bunch of junk
[19:32] <Error404NotFoun1> hold up will only take a second
[19:32] <eiriksvin> kk
[19:34] <Error404NotFoun1> was gonna install natty on this thing anyways
[19:34] <Error404NotFoun1> eiriksvin:  you have access to the computer now?
[19:35] <eiriksvin> nope im at home, but in a couple hours ill be there
[19:35] <eiriksvin> got any leads though?
[19:36] <Error404NotFoun1> you are dual booting yes?
[19:36] <eiriksvin> yep
[19:36] <Error404NotFoun1> of just full ext4
[19:36] <Error404NotFoun1> ok so you click the main windows drive hit resize
[19:36] <eiriksvin> dual boot is working fine
[19:37] <Error404NotFoun1> select how much space and hit apply
[19:37] <eiriksvin> i already set up the partitions, but the installer cant pick them up
[19:38] <eiriksvin> should i try it with the 64bit amd64 even though its an intel quad core?
[19:39] <eiriksvin> i tried it with the 32bit amd64 but no root filesystem choices came up
[19:40] <eiriksvin> it dont even show the ones that are alrady there
[19:40] <eiriksvin> already
[19:40] <Error404NotFoun1> thats what i used
[19:40] <Error404NotFoun1> on a intel quad
[19:41] <Error404NotFoun1> how much space you set up for ext4 and swap?
[19:42] <eiriksvin> over 200gb for ext4 and 5gb for linux-swap
[19:42] <Error404NotFoun1> and you did hit apply yes lol
[19:42] <eiriksvin> yeah, it made them:)
[19:42] <atari314> must say I've never used more than 500mb on my swap... I keep mine on 1gb tho...
[19:43] <Error404NotFoun1> natty wanted mine to be 8 gigs
[19:43] <Error404NotFoun1> i set it to 5
[19:43] <Error404NotFoun1> on a 150 gb velociraptor
[19:43] <atari314> 8gbs for swap... that's... well... nvm...
[19:43] <Error404NotFoun1> i figured it was a bit large lol
[19:44] <Error404NotFoun1> eiriksvin:  i would use 64 bit and it will probably work fine
[19:44] <Error404NotFoun1> no need to use 32 bit on a 64 bit puter
[19:44] <eiriksvin> imma try that, but i gotta go 4 now... got something a bit more important going on:)
[19:45] <Error404NotFoun1> man i have a feeling this isnt gonna work...
[19:46] <Error404NotFoun1> can you resize your screen in ubuntu?
[19:47] <Error404NotFoun1> anyone?
[19:48] <atari314> yup, there should be a option for it under System > Preferences
[19:49] <Error404NotFoun1> ffs im getting errors up my bum
[19:49] <Error404NotFoun1> tryin to install
[19:51] <Error404NotFoun1> aww wth
[19:51] <Error404NotFoun1> im at a command prompt now
[19:51] <Error404NotFoun1> installin natty
[19:56] <Error404NotFoun1> ok i have a pointer on a black screen wtf
[19:58] <wij> hi, I have a problem installing clamav
[19:58] <Error404NotFoun1> id use a hammer...
[19:59] <Error404NotFoun1> always works for me
[19:59] <wij> it says 'permission denied' when trying to create file in /usr/local/lib folder
[20:00] <Error404NotFoun1> bioterror:  any reason i would be getting a pointer on a black screen during install?
[20:00] <bioterror> ?
[20:00] <Error404NotFoun1> im a linux noob cant help ya sorry
[20:00] <atari314> use sudo for installing it
[20:00] <Error404NotFoun1> atari314:
[20:01] <Error404NotFoun1> help plox
[20:01] <atari314> *use sudo for installing clamav
[20:01] <Error404NotFoun1> bioterror:  i got a pointer on a black screen
[20:01] <Error404NotFoun1> when installing natt
[20:01] <Error404NotFoun1> y
[20:02] <atari314> man, my natty install is breaking like hell too, I don't even get it started... /dev/sr0 no medium found error >.<
[20:02] <wij> atari314: ok i'll try that
[20:02] <Error404NotFoun1> installed it perfectly on main puter and lappy
[20:05] <atari314> yeah... my challenge here is a crap macbook3rdgen with a USB DvD-drive...
[20:05] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[20:05] <Error404NotFoun1> ok nothing is changing... redo!
[20:07] <wij> atari314: sudo doesn't fails in ./configure because 'cannot find -lpam'. any idea's?
[20:08] <Error404NotFoun1> wish i could see what button i press for bios...
[20:08] <mang0> normally del
[20:09] <Error404NotFoun1> i use dvi to hdmi and hook to a tv
[20:09] <Error404NotFoun1> and cant see edges lol
[20:09] <Error404NotFoun1> yay it worked
[20:10] <Error404NotFoun1> if i cant install ubuntu can i give all the hdd space back to windows with gparted?
[20:12] <atari314> yup
[20:12] <atari314> you can do that from windows too, but IDK how... 10 years without using microsoft software :)
[20:13] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[20:48]  * Error404NotFoun1 is starting to hate ubuntu..
[20:50]  * mang0 is agreeing
[20:50] <mang0> ITS HAMMER TIME
[20:51] <Error404NotFoun1> installing on other computer and its been on a purple screen says ubuntu and i have a pointer
[20:51] <Error404NotFoun1> for like an hour
[20:52] <mang0> XD
[20:53] <MrChrisDruif> What kind of hardware? Which version?
[20:53] <Error404NotFoun1> intel p4 natty
[20:55] <MrChrisDruif> Vid?
[20:55] <Error404NotFoun1> ?
[20:55] <MrChrisDruif> Video card?
[20:55] <Error404NotFoun1> nvidia 6800 gt oc
[20:59] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: According to this site < https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DemystifyingUnityGraphicsHardwareRequirements > it should work. Did you check the ISO before burning with the MD5SUM and again after burning?
[20:59] <Error404NotFoun1> no
[21:00] <MrChrisDruif> Try to check the md5sum of the burned disk from a working system (like the one your on now)
[21:01] <MrChrisDruif> Is it Ubuntu what your running right now? Or Windows?
[21:01] <Error404NotFoun1> ubuntu
[21:02] <MrChrisDruif> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM <= great page which should explain it all :)
[21:06] <Error404NotFoun1> ima dl it again
[21:07] <Error404NotFoun1> i may need help with checking the disk
[21:07] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: You could first check your current disk! :)
[21:08] <Error404NotFoun1> ok then how do i do it lol
[21:08] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: It's all explained in the link I just gave you :)
[21:08] <Error404NotFoun1> i know but im retarded...
[21:10] <MrChrisDruif> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20on%20CD <= from here it should be about checking the disk
[21:12] <Error404NotFoun1> erm
[21:12] <MrChrisDruif> It's a bit of terminal work, nothing too much right? :)
[21:12] <Error404NotFoun1> it is for me
[21:13] <Error404NotFoun1> ive used linux now for 2 days..
[21:13] <MrChrisDruif> Alright I'll just talk you through it :)
[21:14] <Error404NotFoun1> .ooh i can check disk from the dvd rom
[21:14] <Error404NotFoun1> its asking to open an mds file
[21:14] <MrChrisDruif> mds file?
[21:14] <Error404NotFoun1> md5
[21:15] <atari314> Anyone knows where I can find the docs to configure this http://pastebin.com/bJuYwFJP parameters? (actually the string "append tasks=standard pkgsel/language-pack-patterns= pkgsel/install-language-support=false vga=788 initrd=initrd.gz -- quiet ")
[21:16] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: when you put the CD in the tray it says that?
[21:16] <Error404NotFoun1> i went to computer right click on the drive
[21:16] <Error404NotFoun1> hit check disk
[21:18] <MrChrisDruif> Hold on, I'll do the same steps. Then we'll probably see the same things :P
[21:18] <Error404NotFoun1> lol my eject button works
[21:19] <Error404NotFoun1> ftw
[21:19] <Error404NotFoun1> go go gadget apple keyboard
[21:19] <Error404NotFoun1> i just got this error starting the disk
[21:19] <Error404NotFoun1> E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc or the wrong architecture?
[21:20] <Error404NotFoun1> MrChrisDruif:  did you see that
[21:21] <MrChrisDruif> No, I had "You do not have the required permissions to use this drive."
[21:21] <Error404NotFoun1> lol failure
[21:21] <MrChrisDruif> Indeed :P
[21:21] <MrChrisDruif> :)*
[21:21] <Error404NotFoun1> i got this error botting the cd
[21:21] <Error404NotFoun1> E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc or the wrong architecture?
[21:22] <MrChrisDruif> Have you still got the old ISO?
[21:22] <Error404NotFoun1> negative
[21:23] <Error404NotFoun1> erm how do i burn iso with ubuntu
[21:24] <MrChrisDruif> Brasero :)
[21:24] <MrChrisDruif> But I'm using the instructions of the website to see if it works :)
[21:26] <Error404NotFoun1> can i just drag the iso to the drive?
[21:26] <Error404NotFoun1> nope..
[21:27] <Error404NotFoun1> my want to switch to ubuntu from windows is fading...
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> Right click the iso and select Brasero in the menu that comes :)
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> And the instuctions seem to work :)
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> It's very easy as it turns out
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> But before you burn, first do a md5sum check
[21:31] <Error404NotFoun1> erm
[21:31] <MrChrisDruif> Open a terminal, go on. Don't be shy :D
[21:32] <Error404NotFoun1> i have it open lol
[21:32] <Error404NotFoun1> how do i cd to downloads
[21:32] <MrChrisDruif> wait..
[21:33] <MrChrisDruif> just type in "md5sum " then drag the iso onto the open window
[21:34] <Error404NotFoun1> i think its doin something...
[21:35] <Error404NotFoun1> or not
[21:36] <MrChrisDruif> After pressing enter it should calculate the md5sum value, which you can compare to "7de611b50c283c1755b4007a4feb0379" for ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso or "8b1085bed498b82ef1485ef19074c281" for ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[21:36] <Error404NotFoun1> how long should this take?
[21:37] <MrChrisDruif> On my laptop a few moments..
[21:37] <MrChrisDruif> About a 1 minute I guess
[21:37] <Error404NotFoun1> hasnt said anything yet..
[21:38] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: Did you try the direct download or torrent?
[21:38] <Error404NotFoun1> direct dl
[21:38] <MrChrisDruif> (Not that it would make any difference for checking)
[21:40] <Error404NotFoun1> still nothing
[21:41] <Error404NotFoun1> MrChrisDruif:  if i try to close terminal it says there is a process runinng still
[21:42] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: Maybe it hung up? I don't know as I'm not on your system :)
[21:42] <Error404NotFoun1> i think its broken
[21:43] <Error404NotFoun1> screw it ima burn it and hope for the best
[21:43] <MrChrisDruif> I download the iso most of the time with torrent. The torrent helps ensure that it's complete (at least in my eyes)
[21:44] <Error404NotFoun1> never used torrent
[21:44] <MrChrisDruif> Ubuntu ships by default with Transmission
[21:45] <Error404NotFoun1> dont suppose you could tell me what folder to put bookmarks in MrChrisDruif
[21:46] <MrChrisDruif> Bookmarks? Those are kept by you browser right?
[21:46] <Error404NotFoun1> i saved favorites from windows
[21:46] <MrChrisDruif> s/kept/managed
[21:46] <Error404NotFoun1> from favorite folder
[21:46] <Error404NotFoun1> crap they dont work
[21:47] <mang0> Guys, I get this strange message when I'm trying to setup empathy: Enter password to unlock your login keyring  The password you use to log in to your computer no longer matches that of your login keyring.
[21:47] <Error404NotFoun1> holy shit!
[21:47] <MrChrisDruif> mang0: It's intdeed weird
[21:47] <mang0> <.<
[21:48] <mang0> It's horrible
[21:48] <mang0> I cannot setup anything
[21:48] <Error404NotFoun1> i opened a url with firefox and its blasting tabs big time
[21:48] <Error404NotFoun1> 100's of new tabs
[21:48] <Error404NotFoun1> wtf
[21:48] <mang0> MrChrisDruif: using empathy is impossible, I can't set it up
[21:48] <MrChrisDruif> mang0: Try pidgin :)
[21:48] <Error404NotFoun1> MrChrisDruif:  lol wtf
[21:49] <Error404NotFoun1> i open a url and it opens a million new tabs in firefox
[21:49] <mang0> NEVER
[21:49] <mang0> I hate pidgin
[21:49] <mang0> idk why
[21:49] <Error404NotFoun1> pidgin works great
[21:49] <mang0> just one of those things
[21:49] <mang0> :S
[21:49] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: I don't know what made it do that
[21:49] <Error404NotFoun1> wish there was trillian for linux
[21:49] <MrChrisDruif> mang0: Vice versa for me ;)
[21:50] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: Can you close firefox?
[21:50] <Error404NotFoun1> yes
[21:50] <Error404NotFoun1> lol it maxed my quad core when i opened that
[21:51] <mang0> Lol. But do you know what the login keyring is?
[21:51] <MrChrisDruif> mang0: It the app thing that stores all passwords etc afaik
[21:51] <mang0> O.o
[21:51] <Error404NotFoun1> storing passwords is bad..
[21:51] <mang0> yeah
[21:51] <mang0> I MUST KILL IT
[21:52] <Error404NotFoun1> wtf is afaik
[21:52] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: As far as I know
[21:52] <Error404NotFoun1> oic
[21:52] <MrChrisDruif> oic?
[21:52] <Error404NotFoun1> thats a new one to me
[21:52] <Error404NotFoun1> if you know what afaik is you know what oic is
[21:53] <MrChrisDruif> oic
[21:53] <Error404NotFoun1> !define oic
[21:53] <MrChrisDruif> Oh I see
[21:53] <ubot2> Factoid 'define oic' not found
[21:53] <Error404NotFoun1> fail bot
[21:55] <Error404NotFoun1> i guess my favorites are dead
[21:56] <earthling_> Hi, Where are youtube videos saved in the Firefox 4 cache?
[21:56] <earthling_> Is there an easy way to downloading them?
[21:57] <MrChrisDruif> earthling_: Yes, keepvid.com is one way and otherwise http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/saving-flash-videos-in-linux-tmp-no-longer-works/
[21:58] <earthling_> does keepvid install something?  it asks to verify some certificate
[21:58] <Error404NotFoun1> if this dont work ima go rob a bank with a finger nail clipper
[21:58] <earthling_> java?
[21:58] <Error404NotFoun1> and pay someone to do it for me
[21:59] <MrChrisDruif> earthling_: You could also check the link I gave ya
[21:59] <earthling_> ok
[22:00] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: In Holland we've got "Support-point", volunteers that are local to your area and can/try to help you :)
[22:00] <MrChrisDruif> points*
[22:00] <earthling_> MrChrisDruif, yes, I used to just go to the firefox cache folder, but I think they changed something in firefox 4, doesn't seem to work anymore
[22:00] <Error404NotFoun1> im not in holland lol
[22:01] <Error404NotFoun1> im thinking this disk dont work either..
[22:02] <Error404NotFoun1> MrChrisDruif: if i want to install jave what packages to i select
[22:04] <Error404NotFoun1> crap
[22:05] <Error404NotFoun1> the install is working but its not connecting to the internet
[22:07] <MrChrisDruif> But it's late enough as it is (about 11 PM) so I'm going. Good luck Error404NotFoun1
[22:10] <Error404NotFoun1> oh great
[22:10] <Error404NotFoun1> ubuntu doesnt see my hdd
[22:17] <GraymanStole> Anybody know if there's a command that will force my sensors to reset and take a new temperature reading?
[22:18] <GraymanStole> or barring that, a command to turn the fan on in my Lenovo IdeaPad S10 netbook?
[22:25] <Error404NotFoun1> what would stop ubuntu from seeing my hdd?
[22:27] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: How do you mount the hdd ?
[22:27] <Error404NotFoun1> im installing
[22:28] <Error404NotFoun1> gparted dont see it either
[22:28] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: Does it appear in the bios settings ?
[22:28] <Error404NotFoun1> checking now
[22:28] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: Sometimes cables might be disconnected
[22:28] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: Ok
[22:28] <Error404NotFoun1> i just swapped power and sata cable
[22:29] <Error404NotFoun1> still didnt see it
[22:29] <Error404NotFoun1> ffs this means i took space from my storage drive...
[22:30] <Error404NotFoun1> ooh bios dont see it
[22:30] <Error404NotFoun1> wtf
[22:30] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: That is the problem
[22:30] <Error404NotFoun1> its spinning..
[22:30] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: Yeah ....SATA right ?
[22:31] <Error404NotFoun1> yeah
[22:31] <Error404NotFoun1> its the 150 gb raptor x
[22:31] <Error404NotFoun1> just booted windows with it... wtf
[22:32] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: Avoid using wtf in the future ...just a friendly tip
[22:34] <Error404NotFoun1> why
[22:34] <pleia2> it's not really appropriate in ubuntu channels
[22:34] <DraZoro> Do check while in the bios that Raid option is enabled ...something similar to that
[22:36] <Error404NotFoun1> still doesnt see hdd
[22:36] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: But you are able to boot with on Windows ?
[22:36] <Error404NotFoun1> havnt tried since i tried installin ubuntu
[22:37] <Error404NotFoun1> but it did work earlier today
[22:37] <Error404NotFoun1> i guess my raptor is dead
[22:38] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: I don't think so ...it might be cables ...
[22:40] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: Raptor X is a amazing HDD
[22:42] <Error404NotFoun1> i have the 150gb velociraptor in this computer
[22:43] <Error404NotFoun1> now it sees the stupid hdd...
[22:43] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: That is better ...you mean it sees the Raptor X one ?
[22:44] <Error404NotFoun1> yes
[22:44] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: Now you are winning ...
[22:44] <Error404NotFoun1> ive had that stupid hdd since it was released and always had it in an enclosure
[22:44] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: You should be able to install
[22:44] <Error404NotFoun1> never seen the pretty platters spinning
[22:45] <Error404NotFoun1> till now..
[22:45] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: Don't stress much about the drive ....just make sure it does what you want :)
[22:45] <Error404NotFoun1> i think i need a new bios...
[22:46] <Error404NotFoun1> i just thought it was cool that a hdd had a window in it so i bought it, never to see the stupid thing..
[22:48] <Error404NotFoun1> omg
[22:49] <Error404NotFoun1> gparted still dont see mt hdd
[22:51] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: You said you are installing a new operating system right ?
[22:51] <Error404NotFoun1> yes
[22:52] <Error404NotFoun1> i think this computer is fried
[22:52] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: It is strange since you said it appears in bios.
[22:52] <Error404NotFoun1> now the bios dont see it..
[22:53] <Error404NotFoun1> i dont get it
[22:54] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: Same here
[22:54] <Error404NotFoun1> all i did was reboot to gparted
[22:54] <Error404NotFoun1> now its gone
[22:55] <Error404NotFoun1> this computer is about to be deposited into the dumpster...
[23:06] <DraZoro> Good bye everyone I am going to bed now.
[23:06] <bioterror> gnight
[23:06] <DraZoro> Error404NotFoun1: Good luck with the hard drive mission.
[23:06]  * DraZoro bye bioterror 
[23:07] <Error404NotFoun1> peace