[00:02] cfhansen: Ubuntu LiveCD has it by default [00:02] I installed from the web, sadly [00:02] From web? MiniCD? [00:04] put it on a flash drive [00:04] if you cant burn a disk [00:04] Error404: That's what I did with the original ubuntu install [00:04] I'll probably do the same for this [00:04] if you have it on a flash use it as a live cd [00:05] i forgot how to switch to classic mode already... [00:06] Error404: Log out and you should see a few menus at the bottom of the screen; select classic from one of them [00:06] when you select a user, just change the session mode [00:06] Error404NotFound: Log out, click your account, select in the bottom classic desktop, input password > GO! [00:06] xD [00:07] Teamwork everyone :D [00:13] ffs [00:13] someone in here told me how to reinstall grub2 [00:13] and i forgot [00:16] sudo apt-get? [00:17] sudo grub-update? [00:17] Error404NotFound: ^ [00:17] i have no idea, its a guess, whats grub? :P [00:18] grand unified bootloader [00:18] Pac_Man: That ;) [00:18] and in english? ^^ [00:21] Pac_Man: It's a piece of software used to select between multi-boot systems; e.g. Windows and Ubuntu on the same machine :) [00:22] ah, i see [00:22] i guess i didnt stumble into it yet since i just screw around using VMware [00:24] That helps :) [00:27] ok now im pissed [00:27] and want to smash this pos [00:29] this shit doesnt even think i have ubuntu installed... [00:30] Weird <_<" [00:36] yay i fixed it [00:38] Great :) [00:38] What was needed Error404NotFound ? [00:41] idk wtf [00:42] it did it on my desktop too [00:42] had windows already installed b4 installing ubuntu and grub didnt work [00:42] so i reinstalled and it works fine now [00:47] ok why is my computer takin a week to reboot... [00:48] Because of hardware failure? [00:48] was doing an update then said you have to reboot [01:20] wth [01:21] moo [01:21] erm [01:33] man i hate firefox [01:36] Error404NotFound: Me too, well hate is a big word. I "don [01:36] 't like it" [01:43] i want ie 9 for linux ffs [02:02] how do you show hidden files again [02:05] In nautilus or terminal? ;) [02:06] Nautilus Ctrl + H afaik, terminal -a option [02:08] nautilus [02:08] how do i get to that again lol [02:09] I thought Alt + Home would open it in Home folder [02:10] And otherwise just got to any of the Places :) [02:11] i give up [02:11] i did this all once already today [02:11] and forgot how [02:12] i think holstein told me how to do it [02:26] holstein got any ideas on how to install ubuntu on a ACPI x64 based PC? [02:27] anybody? [02:32] wtf is acpi [02:33] It's got to do with Power Management [02:34] yeah, and im getting frustrated with it [02:34] how do you know if yer pc is acpi [02:35] if ou have windows itll tell u in the hardware>computer> [02:35] in the control panel [02:36] its making me grrrr [02:37] acpi is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface [02:37] just an advanced power management set of features [02:41] is there a clean work around? [02:42] my sister wants Ubuntu, but her man is a winblows dependant [02:42] lol [02:42] heh [02:43] eiriksvin: you could dual-boot [02:44] what processor and how much ram does the machine have? [02:45] <+cprofitt> i have tried Live CD and Wubi, both have the same problem saying the root files cant be located [02:46] lol [02:46] when you format the damn thing [02:46] odd... never heard of that error... almost sounds like a bad download or burn [02:46] where it says directory or what not [02:46] Error404NotFound: please be a little less abrassive [02:46] drop down list [02:47] choose [02:47] ./ [02:47] no . [02:47] its ACPI x64 based on intel quad core [02:47] i loled cuz i just went through that yesterday [02:47] Error404NotFound: ok [02:48] sounds like you can help eiriksvin through this then [02:49] eiriksvin: [02:49] you see what i said?] [02:49] what do i have to do? make a partition with something? [02:49] I am going to get some sleep all -- night [02:49] you cAN USE UBUNTU TO FORMAT [02:49] heh, im really tired, and feeling dummy [02:50] format the main partition with ext4 [02:50] leave like 5 gigs or so for swap [02:50] are you dual booting? [02:51] it dont show how to set my partitions and stuff [02:51] if you hit install to hdd [02:51] it will give you option to create and format partition [02:52] mine just says install now [02:52] there no option [02:52] if you dont see how [02:52] use g parted [02:52] you see a lil check box by the partition [02:52] says format? [02:52] i tried, but it says root filesystem not found [02:53] eiriksvin, if you booted the live cd i think you can use gparted from the livecd prior to going into the boot [02:53] or something like that [02:53] i know! [02:53] go into the install i mean [02:53] ddo it again [02:53] choose to format as ext4 [02:53] once you start the install there may be an option if you use the entire disk to set things up [02:53] ok, ok.. i get it... so which do i use i386? [02:53] then in the lil drop down list it will say /root [02:53] or /home [02:54] 386 is 32 bit isnt it? [02:54] i got intel quad on this one [02:54] then you want 64 bit [02:55] ok, good thing i brought both disks [02:55] amd? [02:55] yup 386 is a 32-bit cpu [02:55] so i use amd64 in intel? [02:56] was only option i seen [02:56] i have an intel quad core [02:56] i want an octo core [02:57] lol [02:57] oh, heh... wow theres alot of stuff, i have installed ubuntu on 3 different pooters all 3 had different stuff in em, yet all 3 are amd64 run [02:57] quad core is good enough for about 99% of users [02:57] remember when we used to talk in ghz? [02:58] i want a 4ghz processor [02:58] i remeber waiting a whole year to get another home pc cus Quake 2 couldnt play on our 233mhz at home:) [02:59] we had to get a 500mhz [02:59] heh [03:00] ok gimme a step by step so i can write it down plz [03:00] hehe [03:00] first computer i really used was a 750 mhz [03:00] i need a co-processor [03:00] gateway ftl [03:00] a math co-coprocessor [03:01] i dont know step by step man [03:01] to help my main processor in..math [03:01] i just know what yer doin wrong [03:01] durn [03:01] you doin a clean install of ubuntu yes? [03:01] no dual boot [03:01] nope i gotta make it dual boot [03:01] windows installed already? [03:01] yep [03:02] you need g parted [03:02] to take space from windows partition [03:02] right, i got my ubuntu live for that [03:02] you got space for ubuntu then>? [03:02] but i have never ran gparted b 4 [03:02] its easy [03:02] so give me an idea what to look for [03:03] plenty of space [03:03] pretty much click on main windows partition [03:03] and hit recover space or some thing like that [03:04] ok, so imma drop 250gb into the recover space area [03:04] you need to create 2 partitions out of thayt [03:04] that* [03:04] one for win and one for ubuntu [03:05] windows will not be affected [03:05] you are simply taking hdd space away from windows [03:05] ive got over 500gb to work with, but i thought id split it down the middle [03:05] you need 2 partitions for ubuntu [03:05] so allocate the 250 gigs [03:05] will say unallocated space [03:06] click on it and format like 5 gigs as swap [03:06] and then the rest format as ext4 [03:07] is that where windows will be, inside ext4? [03:07] no [03:07] oh, itll be in unallocated? [03:07] unallocated is yer new crap for ubuntu [03:07] hmm, so what ur sayin is: [03:08] im pulling 250 out of the hdd for ubuntu [03:08] 5 for swap [03:08] yep [03:08] how big should ext4 be? [03:08] is that the 250? [03:08] thats the main partition [03:09] ext4 is to linux as ntfs is to windows [03:09] hah, ohhh [03:09] doh! [03:10] now do i select all of this on the same screen, or one at a time? [03:10] did you create 2 partitions out of the 250gb? [03:10] i can do it on windows? [03:10] no [03:10] gparted [03:11] didnt you say you installed ubuntu 2 times already today? [03:11] um, im gonna have to restart into the live cd then, and take a look [03:11] i actualy downloaded gparted [03:11] yeah, but i uninstalled them [03:11] and burn to cd [03:12] how about if i run the trial and run gparted through that? [03:12] will it do the duty? [03:12] i would imagine lol [03:13] eiriksvin, yes you can do it that way [03:13] ok here goes, if it dont look right... ill just come back and ask [03:52] Error404 im in ubuntu live and i got gparted running its wingding off, but its doing the do [03:53] eiriksvin, if you are resizing an NTFS partition to make room for windows I would recommend booting windows at least once prior to installing ubuntu [03:54] make room for ubuntu that is [03:54] ok, will do... its done and everythings set up [03:54] its probably not required, but windows likes to check its filesystem [03:54] yes it does [03:54] yeah i know, but dont do the system restore:) [03:54] and yer prolly gonna have a problem with grub [03:55] but will it install now? [03:55] ubuntu will install [03:55] but the first time you reboot its gonna auto load windows [03:57] yeah, i figured so, but so long as i dont system restore, i should be good right? [03:57] after you reinstall grub yeah [03:57] kk here goes:) [05:44] what is an ubuntu live cd constantly popping up report problem dialogs indicative of? [05:51] I'm not sure if I'm on the right place to ask it, but I'm trying to build a minimal ubuntu install (I mean, really minimal, only the ubuntu-minimal meta-package). Trying the mini.iso install I get a lot more than that (prolly ubuntu-standard, etc). Is there any way to restrict the install just to ubuntu-minimal meta-package? [06:18] atari314: i have used the alternate CD [06:18] for a CLI only instal [06:18] l [06:18] is that more than you want? [06:18] when I was younger, ubuntu only an alternate install [06:18] :) [06:19] yes, that isntall force me to download the ubuntu-standard package + other random ones [06:19] +was [06:19] none of these fangled live cd's ;p [06:19] I just want the ubuntu-minimal (meta-package) [06:19] I'm not really following what you are atari314 after [06:19] there's no such thing [06:19] CLI is pretty tiny [06:20] not tiny enough >.< [06:20] i didnt do the math, but its rather minimal [06:20] there's ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, edubuntu, mythbuntu and and [06:20] http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/ubuntu-minimal + my kernel + my bootloader [06:20] that is what I'm after [06:21] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [06:21] maybe you could use that and something like remastersys? [06:21] atari314, what's your bootloader? [06:21] I hook it on my grub2 host [06:23] the remastersys, tried that a few hours ago... ruled out for some reason... let me recheck here [06:24] tryed UCK too [06:26] oh yeah, the remastersys have 2 problems, 3 deps I can't met, (gnome/x), and my host enviroment is the oposite from what I need on the target one. So the remastersys would just clone the enviroment I don't want. [06:27] I was trying to chroot (deboostrap/multistrap) a partition and following from there [06:27] chroot is probably the way to go [06:27] but, ironically, both debootstrap and multistrap downloads the ubuntu-minimal (I want) and the ubuntu-standard (I don't want) :( [06:28] do you know if I can apt-get install targeting the chroot enviroment? [06:28] AFAIK [06:28] or if I can call the apt-get from the host machine inside the empty chroot'd enviroment? [06:28] i think thats another reason why folks use the chroot method [06:29] uhn, great :) so this is prolly the right way ^^ [06:29] tks for the info :) [06:30] thats what i was told* [06:30] i havent actually gotten around to doing it first hand [06:30] well, we're about to find out now [06:30] :) [06:46] holstein, just as feedback, the # schroot -c karmic -u root apt-get install zlib1g-dev # is how :) [06:47] or, in my case, schroot -c natty -u root apt-get install ubuntu-minimal [06:47] (requires some conf on /etc/schroot/schroot.conf === genupulas is now known as Mralone [08:10] hi ppl [08:11] is there an upper limit to the hdd size you can put in a box? I'm thinking of getting a used thinkcentre and use it as a server, it would suck if it only would accept hdd's up to a certain size... [08:13] the biggest I've saw was 16tb with solaris and raid [08:13] that's a lot ;) [08:13] I read that some old laptops will only take up to this or that [08:14] dunno any hard cap for that, but you'd have to worry using the proper HD-rpm for your notebook-mobo [08:15] and the HD kind, ata/sata/ssd === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:20] http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames [15:20] anyone bored want to look at that with me? [15:21] I don't know what you want to look at/do with that page holstein :) [15:22] im looking for a dual head graphics card [15:22] id like to use an open driver [15:22] gaming is not really important [15:22] or 3d [15:22] but it would be nice* [15:23] this will put it in perspective [15:23] Fermi is supported?? [15:23] if intel made PCIe graphics cards [15:23] that would work for me [15:23] performance wise* [15:26] fermi is what im unclear about MrChrisDruif [15:27] in the 'all sorts of fun' section [15:27] you think thats ironic? [15:27] like, 'all sorts of fun trying to get these things to work' [15:27] xD [15:28] But I'm not really bored, sorry [15:28] lol [15:28] MrChrisDruif: thanks for indulging me for a minute anyways :) [15:28] :D [15:42] What is a program that will monitor my hdd status/ health? [15:44] Froq: theres a disk utility [15:45] in the menu [15:45] or was* [15:45] system - administration - disk utility [15:45] holstein: thanks sir! How you been? [15:45] Froq: im good :) [15:45] playing some good Bass lately? [15:46] yup [15:46] got a concert tonite [15:46] and one this weekend that'll be nice [16:06] man I really love Ubuntu guys, but this VNC buggy ness is killing me. I so often VNC when away [16:07] Froq: xtightvnc ? [16:07] server or client? [16:07] i like remmina [16:13] holstein: server. the ubuntu meachine is the server. [16:14] Froq: how many servers have you tried? [16:14] different server software* [16:20] holstein: I have only tried the vino that comes on Ubuntu. [16:20] remmina?! I will definitely look into that one! & I have tried xtightvnc. didnt' do too well [16:21] Froq: try teamviewer too [16:21] that seems stable [16:21] I thought teamviewer was html stuff? [16:22] its commercial proprietary VNC [16:22] basically [16:22] works well though [16:22] and the personal use version is free [16:22] holstein: o wow! See, I know about logmein, and I hate that. It just doesn't go very well If feel But I am going to look into teamviwer! thanks [16:22] and remmina! that one sounds cool @ least! haha [16:23] but to install team viewer do I need to install wine first?! it doesn't run on linux natively, only through emmulation? [16:23] nah [16:23] it seems to pull in its own wine libs* [16:23] maybe im just seeing it wrong [16:25] oo sweet, so I don't have to install Wine too, that is cool. [16:52] Hello guys, anyone have experience customizing Live-CDs? I'm looking for some info over adding a installer to it (ubiquity/debconf, I'm kinda lost). [17:10] Holstein? === m4n1sh_ is now known as m4n1sh [17:40] holstein [17:40] bioterror [17:42] can anyone help me with firefox? [17:42] what's your problem there? [17:43] i get a blank box in ff when i start it [17:43] sayd xmarks when i click on it [17:43] says* [17:43] tells me to sign into xmarks [17:44] I used xmarks (ex-foxmarks) on Firefox long ago [17:44] how do i gegt rid of it [17:44] U need to fully setup your account [17:45] that blank box is the iframe that they use to ajax > server-request > your bookmarks [17:45] i dont want to [17:45] i want it gone [17:46] Do you want to remove xmarks? Or keep xmarks and remove the blank box? [17:48] remove xmarks completely [17:50] Open the Tools menu, click the option Addons, select the tab Extensions, look for Xmarks, click remove it on the right side. [17:51] If you're using ubuntu 11.04 with Unity, the tools menu will apear when you move your mouse over the dark bar on the absolute top of the screen [17:51] you are brilliant [17:51] i couldnt find that crap [17:51] i was tryint to remove it in programs [17:52] yes, that feature in unity is a bloody pain... too much "mac os x" for me too :( [17:53] heyo folks [17:54] http://pastebin.com/bJuYwFJP (txt.cfg from the mini.iso alternate install) anyone have any info about the string "append tasks=standard pkgsel/language-pack-patterns= pkgsel/install-language-support=false vga=788 initrd=initrd.gz -- quiet" parameter? Any doc about it? (I know, this is a long shot) [17:55] nope sorry [17:55] tks tho :) [17:56] not even the guys on #ubuntu-installer know that >.< (oh... I'm screwed) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:57] I have upgraded to 11.04 and now cannot drag icons to the desktop, I get an error while copying "There was an error getting information about "/." [17:58] juancdavila: are you using a seperate / partition [17:59] no [17:59] I received a very warm welcome from the the members of Ubuntu Beginners. Thanks every keep one I am learning a lot. :) [18:00] Thanks to everyone. [18:00] DraZoro: heyo [18:00] juancdavila: i would check fstab to see it is mounted correctly [18:00] stlsaint: Hello [18:01] DraZoro: sup sup [18:01] stlsaint: I am doing ok just exam stress. [18:01] DraZoro: university? [18:01] stlsaint, true beginner how do I do that? [18:01] stlsaint: Yes [18:02] juancdavila: [18:02] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab [18:03] stlsaint, thanks I will check it out [18:05] stlsaint: Yes University [18:09] Do I have to re-introduce myself in ubuntu-beginners@list.ubuntu.com ? I noticed last time I forgot to give details to my launchpad and wiki pages (I have not yet created wiki). [18:11] DraZoro: you can just reply to the first email you sent with links [18:11] pleia2: Thanks [18:12] stlsaint, it appears that it is mounted correctly it shows up in my home folder and i can double click on it to open it [18:12] holstein? [18:23] When it comes to applying for a guide. Is it open for everyone or for people who have been involved in projects before ? [18:27] DraZoro: you probably want to join #ubuntu-beginners-team for these questions (this is the support channel) [18:28] DraZoro: but yes, you can apply for a guide [18:28] Error404NotFoun1, what [18:28] someone helped me already thanks anyways bioterror [18:29] k [18:30] is it possible to play windows games in linux? [18:30] like emulator or something [18:30] try wine [18:30] i dont like wine, i like vodka [18:31] where do i get it? [18:31] well, wine is the name of the program [18:31] software center [18:31] i know just being a smart ass [18:32] !wine | Error404NotFoun1 [18:32] Error404NotFoun1: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [18:32] im in stalling now [18:32] thats a nice bot [18:33] !banshee | coalwater [18:33] coalwater, please see my private message [18:33] erm i hate banshee [18:33] uninstalled it right away [18:34] yea, i hate it too, i liked the old rhythmbox :( [18:34] i installed rhythmbox [18:34]