[00:04] jono: their audience is harsh! :) [00:05] popey, which audience? [00:05] the show you were just on :) [00:05] oh I didnt see the channel [00:05] what did they say? [00:06] being pretty rude about you [00:06] what did they say? [00:06] that you avoid questions, company man, shill, that kind of thing :( [00:06] popey, do you have a log? [00:06] lol [00:07] sounds like pretty spot-on feedback [00:07] heh [00:07] I am a total shill, use Ubuntu, and buy from Canonical [00:07] they know you so well ;) [00:07] occupational hazard with this line of work, some will think you are a shill [00:07] was fun to watch btw [00:07] :-) [00:07] yeah, I get it a lot [00:07] think I did an OK job with it? [00:07] until people realise I dont actually work for canonical [00:07] yes [00:07] hehe [00:07] some people on sounder had a pop at me because i work for canonical [00:07] then sladen pointed out I dont [00:08] haha [00:08] kinda shut them up :) [00:08] its all fun [00:08] :) [00:08] change is controvertial [00:08] but change is also important [00:08] :-) [00:08] ok, i have something rocking working! [00:08] a usb stick which contains multiple iso images [00:08] sweet! [00:08] so i can boot off any of them and install any release [00:08] gonna copy the whole repo onto the stick too [00:09] so it can do a full install whilst offline, and install drivers and crap [00:09] happy happy [00:09] oh nice! [00:14] popey: we can start a fake canonical employees club (I get it too) [00:14] how about a launchpad group called not-canonical ? [00:14] pleia2, LP team! [00:14] nice and simple [00:14] hah [00:14] haha [00:16] https://launchpad.net/~not-canonical [00:18] open or moderated team do you think? [00:18] check on people as they apply [00:18] make it nice and exclusive ;) [00:18] don't want any canoncial people sneaking in [00:18] canonical [00:19] ok, moderated it is! [00:19] we need a canonical logo crossed out [00:19] heh [00:19] hehe [00:23] I have this http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:59125/ working with orca [00:23] or any Ubuntu application that uses speech dispatcher [03:34] popey: can I join, can I can I [03:35] Technoviking: you can! [03:47] pleia2: Yay!!! [04:50] In Unity what is the name for the Ubuntu Logo on the top left that launches Dash when you click it? [06:39] the BFB duanedesign [06:59] Morning! [07:00] hi nigelb [07:00] any visa yet? [07:03] AlanBell: none, I have to call them in some time. Not much hope though [07:20] morning nigelb [07:21] hey duanedesign [07:24] thanks AlanBell [07:25] AlanBell: i have one more you might be able to help me with [07:26] The Menu to to the right of the Me Menu. Is that still the Fast User Switcher? [07:27] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses diagram at the top of this is handy [07:28] but I am not sure of the answer to that question [07:28] cool thanks [07:32] session menu duanedesign ? [07:47] that sounds good [08:24] hey dholbach [08:25] hows budapest? [08:25] morning dpm [08:26] great - thanks [08:29] morning nigelb [08:29] hey dholbach! [08:29] dpm: bah, got confused with channels :) [08:41] Aloha [08:43] morning czajkowski [08:43] no worries nigelb :) [08:58] dpm, done [09:01] morning everyone [09:02] cool, thanks jono! [09:02] morning kim0 [09:02] nigelb: hey [09:02] kim0: are you in Budapest already? :) [09:02] nigelb: nah :) going on Sun [09:02] kim0: aha [09:10] Daviey: any idea if pad.ubuntu.com has got the 16 people/pad default restriction lifted [09:10] and is it on a beefy server? [09:10] (by which I don't mean one running Fedora+1) [09:11] AlanBell: Didn't beefy lose the race? [09:11] dunno, I don't keep track [09:12] I remember jono saying he was saddened that beefy lost the race :p [09:12] apparently it will be "Verne" [09:13] as in jules verne? [09:15] alright, I best get to bed, up in 6 houtd [09:15] hours [09:15] night all! [09:15] night jono [09:15] nini jono [09:16] http://lxnews.org/2011/04/12/fedora-16-release-name-chosen/ [09:16] AlanBell: awww [09:16] aha [09:26] * dpm steps out for ~1h, bbl [09:31] nigelb, http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/05/05/loco-directory-next-steps/ [09:31] jono: I thought you slept :p [09:32] jono: I like the ideas :) [09:32] going to bed now [09:32] :-) === daker_ is now known as daker [11:01] Hrm, does anyone know of an issue tracker that takes emails, makes them into an issue, and provides an interface for both the person who raised the issue to be conversed with, as well as a backstage area for the team dealing with the issue? Im thinking something like that could be useful for the various councils - CC, IRCC, FC, Techboard etc [11:01] Id also be interested in any other ideas that might work better? [11:19] jussi: we just create a private bug once we get the mail [11:19] working well for us [11:22] czajkowski: yeah, we have our own tracker also (not using LP currently), but I wonder if there is anything better. [11:22] we use LP [12:02] jussi, you mean something like a helpdesk [12:04] jussi: osticket [12:04] AlanBell, jussi https://github.com/rossp/django-helpdesk/ [12:06] http://osticket.com/ [12:46] jussi: Using rt might also work a bit better for us. We could then have people simply email the rt email address [12:47] be nice not to have lots of different solutions [12:47] also be nice to have lp integration [12:48] nhandler: yeah, rt is a bit strange - perhaps osticket or helpdesk might suit us better. But I would like to have some ability to share with other councils also. [12:48] jussi: LP so [12:49] czajkowski: LP still doens do all of what Id like it to. [12:49] indeed, LP isnt a ticket system [12:49] fair enough [12:52] jussi: RT isnt perfect, but it does tend to work (which is why it is used so much, note that even the canonical sysadmins use it) [12:55] canonical sysadmins PFFFT :P : P [13:06] morning [13:10] installed guidebook on my phone - that's pretty neat, read David's post on it - now to make sure I don't end up on anything other than the UDS wifi ... [13:36] popey: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/not-canonical_aubergine.png or http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/not-canonical_aubergine_orange.png [13:36] awesome! [13:37] I personally like the first one [13:37] done [13:37] thanks! [13:38] popey: for the small size : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/not-canonical_aubergine_14.png or http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/not-canonical_aubergine_orange14.png [13:38] I wonder if we can add a patch to greasemonkey scripts. I mean there is no point. the people who run greasemonkey scripts probably know who is who anyway [13:42] vish: Do you work for Canonical? [13:42] popey: lol. nope :D [13:42] There. That's the extensive checking done. [13:43] lol [13:59] AlanBell: so did the Ukites vote out the queen yet? :p [14:01] that is not *exactly* what we are voting on today [14:01] heh === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [14:22] lol [14:34] https://launchpad.net/~not-canonical [14:34] hahah [14:34] brilliant! [14:34] jcastro: heh [14:34] oh, I see you guys have been talking about that already [14:34] jcastro: no entry for you though :p [14:34] jcastro: popey started it :p [14:35] :) [14:35] #blamepopey [14:35] haha [14:35] talk to persia [14:35] I posted on nixternal's blog that he was an employee [14:35] but I guess he is not [14:35] yeah :) [14:35] nooo! isnt it #blamepleia2 this time ?;p [14:35] jcastro: wait, what? [14:35] popey: we can start a fake canonical employees club (I get it too) [14:35] not sure what to do about contractors [14:36] jcastro: persia is confusing :p [14:36] i guess popey just likes being blamed ;p [14:36] he's being pedantic [14:36] well from time to time people could be expelled from the group [14:37] dpm: you had some question about scheduling yesterday? [14:37] Daviey: around? [14:37] well, i was a contractor for canonical once [14:37] for a short while [14:37] but I am not now, so that's okay :) [14:37] AlanBell: good point, I like the idea of expelling you [14:37] uh, I mean, people [14:37] annoying thing of the day: people telling others to install the "ccsm" package [14:37] we're only talking about current. [14:38] so, popey is allowed for now :p [14:38] jcastro: why? [14:38] what is ccsm? [14:38] compizconfig-settings-manager [14:38] jcastro, yes: if I need particular sessions to be scheduled on a particular day (i.e. the translations roundtable to be scheduled before any other translations sessions), what do I need to do? [14:38] why is that annoying? [14:38] kim0, I think you were interested in that too ^^ [14:38] apart from unity not playing nice with other bits of compiz? [14:39] dpm: yeah thanks [14:39] AlanBell: it's not the package name, so it doesn't exist [14:39] orly? [14:39] dpm: do you see "Edit" on the top of the page? [14:39] !info ccsm [14:39] ahhh [14:39] !info compizconfig-settings-manager [14:39] AlanBell: yeah, the package name is actually ^ [14:39] jcastro: get an SRU for a metapackage :) [14:39] jcastro, just a sec, let me have a look... [14:40] nah [14:40] we need to get someone to fix up simple-ccsm and adapt it for unity [14:40] so that I never have to see "real" ccsm ever again [14:40] oh OK the package name is indeed the long version, then you have to wonder why the command isn't the same [14:40] compiz doesn't find it [14:41] yeah the binary is ccsm [14:41] actually searching ccsm in synpatic gives the package [14:41] yeah but didn't we remove synaptic yet? [14:41] "ccsm"* [14:42] jcastro, yeah, I can see the edit link [14:42] dpm: ok, click on that [14:42] then you'll see a sidebar [14:42] move the session onto that, then click "read only" to lock the page again (it's where the edit button was [14:42] then go to the day you want, click edit, drag the session to where you want it from the sidebar [14:42] then click read only [14:43] jcastro: but surely you dont expect everyone to give out the full package name... like if I said to you "install chromium" you think you would find it? [14:43] basically, the sidebar is your little jumbling ground [14:43] hmm, searching "ccsm" in Software Center also finds it.. [14:43] jussi: if the answer is "sudo apt-get install ccsm" then yes, I expect it to be correct. [14:43] if it's "find ccsm in your package manager" then that's fine [14:44] jcastro, cool, I'll do that [14:44] jcastro: oh, well thats different [14:44] dpm: once you move it summit won't touch it [14:44] ok, gotcha [14:45] nice, 86 results of "sudo apt-get install ccsm" in the forums that I can't fix [14:46] jcastro: SELECT * FROM... ;) [14:46] jcastro: Bribie IS today! [14:46] *bribe [14:51] forums suck :) [14:51] ahem [14:52] joey: ping [14:52] jcastro: howdy [14:52] popey: time to shut it down! ;) [14:53] * JFo has so much to do today it physically hurts me [14:55] * Pendulum hugs JFo [14:55] * JFo hugs Pendulum [14:55] thanks :) [14:55] :D [14:55] you're welcome :) [15:03] nigelb: feature request [15:03] nigelb: when doing event-weeks can we have the bot announce in here as well? [15:03] nigelb, I dare you to just say DENIED!! ;-P [15:03] (for next time, forget about this week) [15:03] heh [15:04] *JFo has changed his nick to Evil_JFo [15:04] j/k === JanC_ is now known as JanC === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [15:30] lol [15:31] duanedesign: you're next! [15:33] thanks jorge [15:36] akgraner: do you know valorie zimmermann's IRC? [15:38] jcastro: valorie [15:39] ah, ta [15:40] morning all [15:41] vish: deceptive [15:42] totally.. ;) [15:43] jcastro, valorie [15:44] Morning [15:51] jcastro: notice the top bar is cropped for me at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/ [15:55] there is a black line between the words for me [15:59] kim0, hey [15:59] free to chat in a few? [15:59] jono: howdy .. yeah sure [15:59] kim0, will call in a few mins [16:07] kim0, rebooting and then will call [16:07] sure [16:10] Technoviking: grab a screenshot and file a bug [16:11] kim0, one sec, mic problem [16:11] okie [16:11] even the invincible jono gets mic problems too :) [16:11] lol [16:12] Technoviking: file a bug on lp:summit with a screenshot [16:12] Technoviking: but clean your cache first and check just in case [16:13] jcastro: will do [16:14] jcastro: maybe be something in chrome-unstable, looks fine in chrome-beta and Firefox [16:14] ah I'm on stable === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [16:59] jcastro: I've got a request for public panel session after the last meeting on Monday. Is there someway to do that? Just announce in the morning? [17:00] jcastro: "working with maintainers in the Linux kernel" with actual kernel maintainers. 6pm to 7pm. Problem is that we have some evening activities on those days [17:00] yeah do it after and announce [17:01] we can announce during the plenary times [17:02] jcastro: ok. thanks. I'm only showing Wed and Thurs evening free at the moment [17:02] joey: yeah, but remember different audiences [17:02] people who like kernel panels likely won't care about an open house. :) [17:03] jcastro, any idea how I stream music from Banshee with DAAP? [17:03] as a server? [17:03] yep [17:03] I used the RB plugin before [17:03] it doesn't do it natively, install "tangerine" [17:03] I want to listen to tunes from my PS3 [17:03] which is like a little standalone thing [17:03] yeah you want tangerine [17:03] ok, I just run it and it works? [17:03] yeah you define the dir [17:03] for mucis [17:03] unlike mediatomb [17:03] lol [17:04] er, music, and the one for videos [17:04] yeah [17:04] would be good to get some more unity people along to this on the wednesday evening http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/949/detail/ [17:04] sweet [17:04] thanks, pal [17:04] I told mpt we need a system level upnp/daap/sharing thing [17:04] it's dumb that it's app specific [17:04] it should be desktop wide. [17:04] "I have my stuff, share with devices in my house." [17:06] thanks jcastro [17:07] jono: leave a review, I haven't tried it in a while [17:07] wow this tangerine thing provides no feedback at all [17:07] I think it does [17:07] I think it's a panel applet though [17:07] oh :-/ [17:07] * jcastro checks now [17:08] jcastro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/26011/are-there-any-plans-to-create-a-standard-based-on-libunity [17:09] jcastro: one of my buddies asked that, care to give it some love? [17:11] How are you paultag? [17:12] doctormo: well, thanks! [17:12] jono: dang, it's not an applet either [17:12] I think it just runs, maybe run it in a terminal first? [17:13] then set up the PS3 so you get the scrolling stuff from the app in the terminal [17:13] Contextless chat! w00t [17:13] jcastro: pertty perrty please! :) [17:13] paultag: How's projects? [17:13] doctormo: pretty good :) and yourself? [17:14] paultag: I don't know what he wants for an answer, he accepted it and the guy who wrote it answered it [17:14] jcastro: he asked my opinion about it, and I figured you'd have insight [17:14] paultag: I kind of follow where kamstrup leads [17:15] ok [17:15] paultag: ask me after UDS [17:15] it's on my "to talk about" list [17:15] jcastro: k [17:16] jcastro: thanks man [17:16] I know that some other docks have like a common API they are working on [17:17] jcastro, it seems to have added my songs, but can't be detected [17:17] jono: it's always just worked for me. [17:17] odd [17:17] I don't have a PS3 though, I mean from ubuntu to ubuntu computer [17:17] does it work in Natty? [17:18] yeah [17:18] works for me right now [17:19] do you see the thing at the bottom of banshee [17:19] "Shared Music"? [17:19] paultag: Finally managed to get natty working, on a hp mini the center was given yeaterday. I'm very fashionably late to this party. [17:19] on the bottom left [17:19] doctormo: wooo! :) [17:19] doctormo: BBL, need to run, last day of classes [17:19] jcastro, you mean in Banshee on the same machine I run tangerine from? [17:19] paultag: It's nice, but finding applications is bad design. Sure np, bye! [17:19] jono: on banshee [17:19] jono: it will also show up on the machien you're running it from [17:20] right, it is still sucking in songs right now, I restarted it [17:20] O_O [17:20] it seems to load songs whenever you start it which is a bit pointless [17:20] how many songs? [17:20] erm...a few ;-) [17:20] you have seen my music collection :-) [17:20] like, a few thousand or like dozens of thousands? [17:21] I have 3k songs and it's almost instant [17:21] * JFo has 64K songs... still using rhythmbox though [17:22] jono: we need to convince someone on desktop that integrating rygel at the desktop level would be a nice win here. [17:22] but so far it's been "nice idea jorge, who's gonna do it?" [17:22] if you want to help me find someone to work on that it's pretty straight forward [17:22] jcastro, I am not sure many users need this [17:22] we have all the stuff we need in the archive, just needs the glue [17:23] it is pretty niche [17:23] jono: everyone has xboxes and ps3's and wii's, you'd be surprised [17:23] and we're the only OS that doesn't do it ootb [17:23] good point [17:23] even windows does upnp ootb [17:23] propose a blueprint [17:23] talk to the desktop team and crack some heads :-) [17:23] jcastro, you want to talk to Jason Warner [17:23] I'm not to the propose stage, I need to find someone who is willing to work [17:24] I'll have my music with me so we can maybe test some stuff if you want [17:24] I wanted zeenix to do it but he went off and got a job. :p [17:24] jcastro: What is rygel? [17:24] http://live.gnome.org/Rygel [17:24] jono@forge:~$ tangerine [17:24] 2011-05-05 09:16:46,548 INFO Tangerine started [17:24] 2011-05-05 09:16:46,572 INFO Server name: jono's Music [17:24] 2011-05-05 09:16:46,724 INFO Adding songs in '/home/jono/Music' [17:24] 2011-05-05 09:21:34,548 INFO Finished adding songs [17:24] 2011-05-05 09:21:34,549 INFO Loaded plugin 'file' [17:24] 2011-05-05 09:21:34,549 INFO Loaded plugin 'session' [17:24] no servers detected, no shared thing in Banshee [17:25] do I need to allow Avahi to share data from the machine or something? [17:25] it should already do that [17:25] did you shut that off explicitly at some point? [17:26] nope [17:26] weird [17:26] :-/ [17:27] does it work on the same machine at least? [17:28] how do I test the same machine? [17:28] run tangerine [17:28] and then run banshee on the same machine [17:28] (banshee recognizes clients right away, even if they're on the same machine) [17:29] jono: I got to go to lunch w/ jill, bbiab. === m4n1sh_ is now known as m4n1sh [17:29] jcastro, dont see it, no worries, have fun [17:29] jono: basically you need to determine if it's tangerine or the network part. [17:29] seems like the tangerine part [17:30] * jono installs Rhythmbox [17:37] Looks interesting jcastro, I set up a upnp app to play files on an xbox. [17:37] (not my xbox, I do have some standards of taste) === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [17:43] james_w`: ping === daker is now known as daker_ === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [19:24]