| Captainkrtek | Im getting it all fixed up | 00:00 |
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| Rocket2DMn | what yo have could be an OK level of detail | 00:00 |
| Rocket2DMn | anyway, just keep that in mind while i go whip up some chow | 00:00 |
| Captainkrtek | sure :-) | 00:00 |
| Captainkrtek | okay fixed the issues, also removed a section to make it smaller | 00:05 |
| Captainkrtek | and the links are fixed | 00:05 |
| Captainkrtek | Rocket2DMn, when you get back, if you could look at this :) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~steven.richards/+junk/gnome-help/revision/1563 | 00:14 |
| Captainkrtek | thanks! | 00:14 |
| Rocket2DMn | Captainkrtek, have you tested these directions at all? | 00:50 |
| Captainkrtek | yes | 00:51 |
| Captainkrtek | actually used them today on an adapter | 00:51 |
| Captainkrtek | an old fon router :-) | 00:51 |
| Captainkrtek | Rocket2DMn, ^ | 00:53 |
| Rocket2DMn | "Search your card manufacturer's website for a Linux driver" - end in a period | 00:58 |
| Rocket2DMn | "full information on ndiswrapper" - start with a capital letter | 00:59 |
| Captainkrtek | k | 00:59 |
| Rocket2DMn | "You can also go back to here to check " - on "here" there is a link. Isn't there a way to let it show the title of the section rather than saying "here"? | 01:00 |
| Rocket2DMn | i think there is a way of showing it automatically but i'm not 100% sure | 01:01 |
| Captainkrtek | Im not sure | 01:01 |
| Captainkrtek | I could just say | 01:01 |
| Captainkrtek | You can also go back to the initial check page to check for any signs of connectivity | 01:01 |
| Rocket2DMn | ok, we'll get bac kto that one | 01:02 |
| Captainkrtek | k | 01:02 |
| Rocket2DMn | "3. Run the command" - extra numbering there | 01:02 |
| Captainkrtek | whoops | 01:02 |
| Captainkrtek | forgot to remove that | 01:02 |
| Captainkrtek | the lists now work | 01:02 |
| Rocket2DMn | interface task. (note not all cards support scanning) - either put the parens before the period or drop them altogether | 01:02 |
| Captainkrtek | k | 01:02 |
| Rocket2DMn | There are still a bunch of links to the Command Reference page - i'm not sure if it's appropriate to keep linking the a webpage | 01:03 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah... | 01:03 |
| Captainkrtek | those links are useful though | 01:03 |
| Captainkrtek | they explain the commands | 01:03 |
| Rocket2DMn | you can include a link to the page the original source page and that one at the top of the document for reference, but don't keep linking to it | 01:03 |
| Captainkrtek | okay | 01:04 |
| Captainkrtek | Ill remove all those href's then | 01:04 |
| Rocket2DMn | not everyone has internet, esp. if they are troubleshooting their network card :) | 01:04 |
| Captainkrtek | true... | 01:04 |
| Captainkrtek | hehe | 01:04 |
| Captainkrtek | good point | 01:04 |
| Captainkrtek | okay let me re-format all of this then... | 01:05 |
| Rocket2DMn | Captainkrtek, "<link xref="net-wireless-troubleshooting-initial-check" | 01:08 |
| Rocket2DMn | err | 01:08 |
| Rocket2DMn | <link xref="net-wireless-troubleshooting-initial-check"/> | 01:08 |
| Rocket2DMn | that will show the title | 01:08 |
| Captainkrtek | oh that does it | 01:08 |
| Captainkrtek | cool thanks :) | 01:08 |
| Captainkrtek | okay think we are good now, let me just check it all | 01:09 |
| Captainkrtek | only have 2 xrefs | 01:09 |
| Captainkrtek | they link to guides on supported hardware | 01:10 |
| Rocket2DMn | i would actually do <link xref="net-wireless-troubleshooting-initial-check#net-wireless-initial-check"/> | 01:10 |
| Captainkrtek | k | 01:13 |
| Captainkrtek | anything else? | 01:14 |
| Captainkrtek | still reading it over a few times | 01:14 |
| Rocket2DMn | some of the spacing is a little funky, but otherwise it looks pretty good | 01:15 |
| Captainkrtek | still learning all of this ;-) | 01:16 |
| Rocket2DMn | thats ok, youve done more mallard than i have now | 01:16 |
| Captainkrtek | lol | 01:16 |
| Rocket2DMn | im just basing some stuff on experience with docbook | 01:16 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah, well you sure know more than I do | 01:17 |
| Captainkrtek | I appreciate the help :-) | 01:17 |
| Captainkrtek | K pushed it http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~steven.richards/+junk/gnome-help/revision/1564 | 01:19 |
| Rocket2DMn | the Check Driver section still has a bunch of links | 01:22 |
| Captainkrtek | I just left two | 01:23 |
| Captainkrtek | on purpose | 01:23 |
| Captainkrtek | or do you want me to just remove those whole bits | 01:23 |
| Rocket2DMn | i would remove them all for the commands, you can include a link to the command page at the top | 01:23 |
| Captainkrtek | I removed em all for the commands... | 01:23 |
| Rocket2DMn | also, section titles shouldn't be all uppercase words | 01:23 |
| Captainkrtek | k | 01:24 |
| Rocket2DMn | ah sorry about that links, dang yelp is caching on me | 01:24 |
| Captainkrtek | lol | 01:24 |
| Captainkrtek | I only left | 01:25 |
| Captainkrtek | You can check <link href="http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/">here</link> | 01:25 |
| Captainkrtek | to see if your card is supported by ndiswrapper.</p></item> | 01:25 |
| Captainkrtek | and then the "full info on ndiswrapper is here" | 01:25 |
| Captainkrtek | also replaced all <code> tags with <cmd> | 01:27 |
| Rocket2DMn | k | 01:27 |
| Captainkrtek | looks pretty good now... | 01:27 |
| Captainkrtek | and ill just add a thing about the commands on the top | 01:27 |
| Rocket2DMn | ok, cool | 01:28 |
| Rocket2DMn | ok i need to shutdown my computer to check my memory module (i cant quite read it where it is :( ) | 01:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | gotta figure out exactly what it is, i need more, lol | 01:29 |
| Captainkrtek | :/ | 01:29 |
| Captainkrtek | lol | 01:29 |
| Captainkrtek | run memtest? | 01:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | no, its not bad, i just need more of it | 01:29 |
| Captainkrtek | ahh | 01:29 |
| Captainkrtek | Newegg <3 | 01:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | i upgraded to 64 bit and i'm chewing up memor ylike crazy in natty | 01:30 |
| Rocket2DMn | i keep swapping and its killing me | 01:30 |
| Captainkrtek | hehe | 01:30 |
| Rocket2DMn | who woulda thought 2GB wasnt enough | 01:30 |
| Captainkrtek | Im using 2 of my 4 | 01:30 |
| Captainkrtek | flash player crashes often :P | 01:30 |
| Captainkrtek | committing | 01:30 |
| Rocket2DMn | i start swapping when i get to about 1.5, i use almost a GB doing nothing, what a difference sinec lucid 32 bit | 01:30 |
| Rocket2DMn | Captainkrtek, you can do a merge request when you're finished | 01:31 |
| Captainkrtek | sure :) | 01:31 |
| Rocket2DMn | k, ill bbl man | 01:31 |
| Captainkrtek | k | 01:31 |
| Captainkrtek | hey jbicha | 02:22 |
| jbicha | howdy, yeah I have to be careful not to run out of memory and I have 4GB! | 02:22 |
| Captainkrtek | think you could merge something? | 02:22 |
| Captainkrtek | launchpad keeps giving me timeout errors :( | 02:22 |
| Captainkrtek | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~steven.richards/ubuntu-docs/gnome-help/revision/1565 | 02:23 |
| jbicha | yeah maybe they broke Launchpad this morning | 02:23 |
| Captainkrtek | hehe | 02:23 |
| Captainkrtek | worked with Connor to fix up the last networking guide page | 02:23 |
| Captainkrtek | for wireless | 02:23 |
| Captainkrtek | jbicha, it work? | 02:27 |
| Captainkrtek | this is the branch: lp:~steven.richards/ubuntu-docs/gnome-help | 02:28 |
| jbicha | just a moment, on the phone | 02:29 |
| Captainkrtek | oh okay haha | 02:29 |
| jbicha | I switched from Gedit to Geany today | 02:53 |
| j1mc | how's it working out? i haven't used geany in a while. | 02:53 |
| jbicha | I don't know, haven't used it long enough, but it's got more gizmos | 02:55 |
| jbicha | it has an XML folding mode which can help for Mallard I think | 02:55 |
| j1mc | what does the folding do? | 02:56 |
| * j1mc installs it :) | 02:56 | |
| jbicha | install geany-plugins too | 02:57 |
| jbicha | I'm thinking it can help me find issues with tags not being closed faster | 02:57 |
| j1mc | cool | 02:58 |
| Captainkrtek | j1mc or jbicha check the ML if you have a minute | 03:07 |
| jbicha | Captainkrtek: I'm working on your branch now, it's taking me a bit to figure out how this | 03:08 |
| jbicha | *how to get this new-fangled text editor to work like I want it to | 03:08 |
| Captainkrtek | lol k | 03:09 |
| jbicha | gedit's nice for its simplicity | 03:09 |
| jbicha | Captainkrtek: just as a head's up, you forgot the <p> in your second note so it doesn't display | 03:14 |
| Captainkrtek | oh | 03:15 |
| Captainkrtek | whoops | 03:15 |
| jbicha | and your line breaks are a bit weird | 03:15 |
| jbicha | like you put periods on the next line which isn't needed | 03:19 |
| jbicha | I don't use new lines for tags inside paragraphs | 03:19 |
| Captainkrtek | k | 03:22 |
| jbicha | as it makes it more difficult for a human to read the paragraph | 03:22 |
| Captainkrtek | im not human | 03:38 |
| Captainkrtek | lol | 03:38 |
| jbicha | "see below to blacklist this driver" | 03:54 |
| jbicha | except there is no below | 03:57 |
| Captainkrtek | oh | 04:00 |
| Captainkrtek | forgot, we removed that part :/ | 04:00 |
| Captainkrtek | sorry | 04:00 |
| jbicha | email sent :-) | 04:00 |
| Captainkrtek | thanks :) | 04:07 |
| Captainkrtek | jbicha, what do you mean wit hthe gui instructions? | 04:11 |
| Captainkrtek | just my doc or the rest? | 04:11 |
| jbicha | I mean the "Click the session menu and select System Settings" thing instead of Session Indicator > System Setttings | 04:12 |
| Captainkrtek | oh | 04:12 |
| jbicha | so which Android do you use? | 04:15 |
| jbicha | or are you an android? | 04:15 |
| Captainkrtek | Im on Android | 04:16 |
| Captainkrtek | I have the HTC Thunderbolt currently | 04:16 |
| Captainkrtek | also own the Motorola Droid 1, Samsung Fascinate, and soon to have all post-launch samsung devices | 04:17 |
| Atamira | Captainkrtek, if you're not human, what are ya then? | 04:17 |
| Atamira | second thoughts | 04:17 |
| Atamira | nevermind | 04:17 |
| Captainkrtek | Atamira, A Krtek | 04:17 |
| Atamira | lol | 04:18 |
| Captainkrtek | Captain of them ;-) | 04:18 |
| Captainkrtek | jbicha, finished with the doc :) | 04:19 |
| Captainkrtek | the final final final final changes | 04:19 |
| Captainkrtek | jbicha, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~steven.richards/ubuntu-docs/gnome-help/revision/1566 | 04:20 |
| jbicha | not all cards support scanning, isn't that fundamental to how a wireless net card works? | 04:28 |
| jbicha | maybe the writer got confused with promiscuous mode | 04:33 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah | 04:33 |
| Captainkrtek | actually | 04:33 |
| Captainkrtek | not all card do if i remember correctly | 04:33 |
| jbicha | but how do they work? | 04:34 |
| Captainkrtek | umm promiscous mode allows you to monitor networks but not connect to them I think... | 04:35 |
| Captainkrtek | s a configuration of a network card that makes the card pass all traffic it receives to the central processing unit rather than just frames addressed to it | 04:35 |
| Captainkrtek | so it's used for monitoring in a sense | 04:35 |
| Captainkrtek | like packet sniffing | 04:35 |
| Captainkrtek | and I remember not all devices support it | 04:36 |
| jbicha | right, promiscuous is different | 04:36 |
| jbicha | but scanning is fundamental to how wifi cards works | 04:36 |
| Captainkrtek | yes | 04:36 |
| Captainkrtek | wrong wording? | 04:36 |
| jbicha | the guide doesn't care about promiscuous so the writer was confused | 04:36 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah | 04:36 |
| jbicha | the guide overall is confusing, it needs someone to simplify it | 04:37 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah... | 04:37 |
| Captainkrtek | I just ported it and tried to clarify a little bit | 04:38 |
| jbicha | I'll still upload your part but it needs work for next cycle :-) | 04:38 |
| Captainkrtek | I'm on it boss :-) | 04:38 |
| Captainkrtek | The whole guide looks like a bunch of commands | 04:40 |
| Captainkrtek | like "run this and see if you get xy" | 04:40 |
| Captainkrtek | need to be more methodical and explain a bit of what each thing means | 04:40 |
| jbicha | not all of which are needed, and several which are repetitive | 04:41 |
| Captainkrtek | yes | 04:41 |
| jbicha | I'm going to take out the Network Connections part as that gui doesn't work that way | 04:41 |
| Captainkrtek | sure | 04:41 |
| Captainkrtek | just reading about Ubuntu Membership.. | 04:41 |
| jbicha | maybe they mean Network Tools but that interface is too complex to mention without explanation | 04:43 |
| jbicha | I'm finally applying for Membership this month | 04:43 |
| Captainkrtek | nice :) | 04:43 |
| Captainkrtek | Ill endorse it if you wish | 04:43 |
| Captainkrtek | You've been a good teacher | 04:43 |
| jbicha | "significant and sustained contribution" is a bit ambiguous but I think now I'm well-qualified | 04:44 |
| jbicha | a year ago I wasn't so sure | 04:44 |
| Captainkrtek | how long have you been working | 04:44 |
| Captainkrtek | a few months? | 04:44 |
| jbicha | um, it's been a few years but I'm doing more useful things now | 04:46 |
| Captainkrtek | gotcha | 04:47 |
| Captainkrtek | hope ill be a member someday :-) | 04:48 |
| jbicha | what's link type="home" mean? | 05:07 |
| Captainkrtek | umm | 05:10 |
| Captainkrtek | not sure | 05:10 |
| Captainkrtek | did I put that? | 05:10 |
| jbicha | I don't know, it may have already been there, I'm fixing it though | 05:12 |
| Captainkrtek | k | 05:17 |
| Captainkrtek | Trying to get involved in the Evince project | 05:18 |
| Captainkrtek | for documentation | 05:18 |
| Captainkrtek | they use mallard :) | 05:18 |
| jbicha | everyone in Gnome will be | 05:32 |
| Captainkrtek | neat | 05:35 |
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| Captainkrtek | jbicha, you commit the doc yet? | 05:57 |
| jbicha | no, I'm fighting to get the series links to work the way I want to | 05:57 |
| Captainkrtek | okay, best of luck ;-) | 05:58 |
| Captainkrtek | anything I can help with? | 05:58 |
| jbicha | I'm doing ok, the documentation is a bit confusing with this but I'm emailing the mailing list about that :-) | 05:58 |
| Captainkrtek | heh | 05:59 |
| Captainkrtek | any other docs you need actioned? | 05:59 |
| jbicha | we still have 2 those printer pages that I won't get to until the weekend | 06:20 |
| Captainkrtek | I can do them tomorrow hopefully | 06:30 |
| Captainkrtek | I can load up a live cd and test it on another box in the house | 06:31 |
| jbicha | I seem to remember printer install being more automatic in previous Ubuntu versions, it required me to | 06:34 |
| Captainkrtek | ea | 06:34 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah* | 06:34 |
| jbicha | click the driver which was pre-selected but still | 06:34 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah i'll verify it for the team :-) | 06:34 |
| Captainkrtek | hey j1mc :-) | 06:38 |
| j1mc | hi Captainkrtek | 06:41 |
| Captainkrtek | hello | 06:42 |
| j1mc | this video is kind of blowing my mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYmEICNgOQ :) | 06:43 |
| Captainkrtek | lol | 06:43 |
| Captainkrtek | j1mc, you ever see this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq_A8nXMsQ | 06:44 |
| j1mc | i think i've heard of it before | 06:45 |
| Captainkrtek | yeah | 06:45 |
| Captainkrtek | good speech | 06:45 |
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| j1mc | i will be in the #ubuntu-classroom chan at 1700 UTC talking about docs. | 16:46 |
| j1mc | feel free to join and ask questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat in case i run out of things to say. :) | 16:46 |
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