[00:00] Im getting it all fixed up [00:00] what yo have could be an OK level of detail [00:00] anyway, just keep that in mind while i go whip up some chow [00:00] sure :-) [00:05] okay fixed the issues, also removed a section to make it smaller [00:05] and the links are fixed [00:14] Rocket2DMn, when you get back, if you could look at this :) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~steven.richards/+junk/gnome-help/revision/1563 [00:14] thanks! [00:50] Captainkrtek, have you tested these directions at all? [00:51] yes [00:51] actually used them today on an adapter [00:51] an old fon router :-) [00:53] Rocket2DMn, ^ [00:58] "Search your card manufacturer's website for a Linux driver" - end in a period [00:59] "full information on ndiswrapper" - start with a capital letter [00:59] k [01:00] "You can also go back to here to check " - on "here" there is a link. Isn't there a way to let it show the title of the section rather than saying "here"? [01:01] i think there is a way of showing it automatically but i'm not 100% sure [01:01] Im not sure [01:01] I could just say [01:01] You can also go back to the initial check page to check for any signs of connectivity [01:02] ok, we'll get bac kto that one [01:02] k [01:02] "3. Run the command" - extra numbering there [01:02] whoops [01:02] forgot to remove that [01:02] the lists now work [01:02] interface task. (note not all cards support scanning) - either put the parens before the period or drop them altogether [01:02] k [01:03] There are still a bunch of links to the Command Reference page - i'm not sure if it's appropriate to keep linking the a webpage [01:03] yeah... [01:03] those links are useful though [01:03] they explain the commands [01:03] you can include a link to the page the original source page and that one at the top of the document for reference, but don't keep linking to it [01:04] okay [01:04] Ill remove all those href's then [01:04] not everyone has internet, esp. if they are troubleshooting their network card :) [01:04] true... [01:04] hehe [01:04] good point [01:05] okay let me re-format all of this then... [01:08] Captainkrtek, " err [01:08] [01:08] that will show the title [01:08] oh that does it [01:08] cool thanks :) [01:09] okay think we are good now, let me just check it all [01:09] only have 2 xrefs [01:10] they link to guides on supported hardware [01:10] i would actually do [01:13] k [01:14] anything else? [01:14] still reading it over a few times [01:15] some of the spacing is a little funky, but otherwise it looks pretty good [01:16] still learning all of this ;-) [01:16] thats ok, youve done more mallard than i have now [01:16] lol [01:16] im just basing some stuff on experience with docbook [01:17] yeah, well you sure know more than I do [01:17] I appreciate the help :-) [01:19] K pushed it http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~steven.richards/+junk/gnome-help/revision/1564 [01:22] the Check Driver section still has a bunch of links [01:23] I just left two [01:23] on purpose [01:23] or do you want me to just remove those whole bits [01:23] i would remove them all for the commands, you can include a link to the command page at the top [01:23] I removed em all for the commands... [01:23] also, section titles shouldn't be all uppercase words [01:24] k [01:24] ah sorry about that links, dang yelp is caching on me [01:24] lol [01:25] I only left [01:25] You can check here [01:25] to see if your card is supported by ndiswrapper.

[01:25] and then the "full info on ndiswrapper is here" [01:27] also replaced all tags with [01:27] k [01:27] looks pretty good now... [01:27] and ill just add a thing about the commands on the top [01:28] ok, cool [01:29] ok i need to shutdown my computer to check my memory module (i cant quite read it where it is :( ) [01:29] gotta figure out exactly what it is, i need more, lol [01:29] :/ [01:29] lol [01:29] run memtest? [01:29] no, its not bad, i just need more of it [01:29] ahh [01:29] Newegg <3 [01:30] i upgraded to 64 bit and i'm chewing up memor ylike crazy in natty [01:30] i keep swapping and its killing me [01:30] hehe [01:30] who woulda thought 2GB wasnt enough [01:30] Im using 2 of my 4 [01:30] flash player crashes often :P [01:30] committing [01:30] i start swapping when i get to about 1.5, i use almost a GB doing nothing, what a difference sinec lucid 32 bit [01:31] Captainkrtek, you can do a merge request when you're finished [01:31] sure :) [01:31] k, ill bbl man [01:31] k [02:22] hey jbicha [02:22] howdy, yeah I have to be careful not to run out of memory and I have 4GB! [02:22] think you could merge something? [02:22] launchpad keeps giving me timeout errors :( [02:23] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~steven.richards/ubuntu-docs/gnome-help/revision/1565 [02:23] yeah maybe they broke Launchpad this morning [02:23] hehe [02:23] worked with Connor to fix up the last networking guide page [02:23] for wireless [02:27] jbicha, it work? [02:28] this is the branch: lp:~steven.richards/ubuntu-docs/gnome-help [02:29] just a moment, on the phone [02:29] oh okay haha [02:53] I switched from Gedit to Geany today [02:53] how's it working out? i haven't used geany in a while. [02:55] I don't know, haven't used it long enough, but it's got more gizmos [02:55] it has an XML folding mode which can help for Mallard I think [02:56] what does the folding do? [02:56] * j1mc installs it :) [02:57] install geany-plugins too [02:57] I'm thinking it can help me find issues with tags not being closed faster [02:58] cool [03:07] j1mc or jbicha check the ML if you have a minute [03:08] Captainkrtek: I'm working on your branch now, it's taking me a bit to figure out how this [03:08] *how to get this new-fangled text editor to work like I want it to [03:09] lol k [03:09] gedit's nice for its simplicity [03:14] Captainkrtek: just as a head's up, you forgot the

in your second note so it doesn't display [03:15] oh [03:15] whoops [03:15] and your line breaks are a bit weird [03:19] like you put periods on the next line which isn't needed [03:19] I don't use new lines for tags inside paragraphs [03:22] k [03:22] as it makes it more difficult for a human to read the paragraph [03:38] im not human [03:38] lol [03:54] "see below to blacklist this driver" [03:57] except there is no below [04:00] oh [04:00] forgot, we removed that part :/ [04:00] sorry [04:00] email sent :-) [04:07] thanks :) [04:11] jbicha, what do you mean wit hthe gui instructions? [04:11] just my doc or the rest? [04:12] I mean the "Click the session menu and select System Settings" thing instead of Session Indicator > System Setttings [04:12] oh [04:15] so which Android do you use? [04:15] or are you an android? [04:16] Im on Android [04:16] I have the HTC Thunderbolt currently [04:17] also own the Motorola Droid 1, Samsung Fascinate, and soon to have all post-launch samsung devices [04:17] Captainkrtek, if you're not human, what are ya then? [04:17] second thoughts [04:17] nevermind [04:17] Atamira, A Krtek [04:18] lol [04:18] Captain of them ;-) [04:19] jbicha, finished with the doc :) [04:19] the final final final final changes [04:20] jbicha, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~steven.richards/ubuntu-docs/gnome-help/revision/1566 [04:28] not all cards support scanning, isn't that fundamental to how a wireless net card works? [04:33] maybe the writer got confused with promiscuous mode [04:33] yeah [04:33] actually [04:33] not all card do if i remember correctly [04:34] but how do they work? [04:35] umm promiscous mode allows you to monitor networks but not connect to them I think... [04:35] s a configuration of a network card that makes the card pass all traffic it receives to the central processing unit rather than just frames addressed to it [04:35] so it's used for monitoring in a sense [04:35] like packet sniffing [04:36] and I remember not all devices support it [04:36] right, promiscuous is different [04:36] but scanning is fundamental to how wifi cards works [04:36] yes [04:36] wrong wording? [04:36] the guide doesn't care about promiscuous so the writer was confused [04:36] yeah [04:37] the guide overall is confusing, it needs someone to simplify it [04:37] yeah... [04:38] I just ported it and tried to clarify a little bit [04:38] I'll still upload your part but it needs work for next cycle :-) [04:38] I'm on it boss :-) [04:40] The whole guide looks like a bunch of commands [04:40] like "run this and see if you get xy" [04:40] need to be more methodical and explain a bit of what each thing means [04:41] not all of which are needed, and several which are repetitive [04:41] yes [04:41] I'm going to take out the Network Connections part as that gui doesn't work that way [04:41] sure [04:41] just reading about Ubuntu Membership.. [04:43] maybe they mean Network Tools but that interface is too complex to mention without explanation [04:43] I'm finally applying for Membership this month [04:43] nice :) [04:43] Ill endorse it if you wish [04:43] You've been a good teacher [04:44] "significant and sustained contribution" is a bit ambiguous but I think now I'm well-qualified [04:44] a year ago I wasn't so sure [04:44] how long have you been working [04:44] a few months? [04:46] um, it's been a few years but I'm doing more useful things now [04:47] gotcha [04:48] hope ill be a member someday :-) [05:07] what's link type="home" mean? [05:10] umm [05:10] not sure [05:10] did I put that? [05:12] I don't know, it may have already been there, I'm fixing it though [05:17] k [05:18] Trying to get involved in the Evince project [05:18] for documentation [05:18] they use mallard :) [05:32] everyone in Gnome will be [05:35] neat === fsdfhs is now known as Captainkrtek [05:57] jbicha, you commit the doc yet? [05:57] no, I'm fighting to get the series links to work the way I want to [05:58] okay, best of luck ;-) [05:58] anything I can help with? [05:58] I'm doing ok, the documentation is a bit confusing with this but I'm emailing the mailing list about that :-) [05:59] heh [05:59] any other docs you need actioned? [06:20] we still have 2 those printer pages that I won't get to until the weekend [06:30] I can do them tomorrow hopefully [06:31] I can load up a live cd and test it on another box in the house [06:34] I seem to remember printer install being more automatic in previous Ubuntu versions, it required me to [06:34] ea [06:34] yeah* [06:34] click the driver which was pre-selected but still [06:34] yeah i'll verify it for the team :-) [06:38] hey j1mc :-) [06:41] hi Captainkrtek [06:42] hello [06:43] this video is kind of blowing my mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYmEICNgOQ :) [06:43] lol [06:44] j1mc, you ever see this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq_A8nXMsQ [06:45] i think i've heard of it before [06:45] yeah [06:45] good speech === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [16:46] i will be in the #ubuntu-classroom chan at 1700 UTC talking about docs. [16:46] feel free to join and ask questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat in case i run out of things to say. :) === godbyk-feynman is now known as godbyk