[00:03] <LLStarks> chrisccoulson, i just did a fresh install of natty and dist'd up to oneiric. en-GB seems to be superseding en-US again.
[00:03] <LLStarks> for spellchecking and the like
[00:05] <chrisccoulson> LLStarks, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/ubufox/trunk/revision/232 ;)
[00:05] <LLStarks> btw, do you have the time for the critical mozillateam meeting(s) at uds?
[00:06] <LLStarks> that would explain things
[00:06] <chrisccoulson> huh?
[00:06] <chrisccoulson> what do you mean?
[00:07] <LLStarks> the commit you posted that would fix the problem
[00:08] <LLStarks> i remember the dictionary behavior changes being suggested during the natty cycle but i guess i forgot about them
[00:13] <LLStarks> unityfox is sweet. i'm still annoyed that unitybird is restricted to 3.3. i still have the 0.1 version that works with 3.1 but i can't find an xpi of 0.2 anywhere
[00:43] <LLStarks> are there any uds blueprints for the team or is the big one "chromium vs firefox"
[00:43] <LLStarks> and tb vs evo
[00:54] <micahg> LLStarks: there never was a chromium vs firefox
[00:55] <Omega> LLStarks: There's one for the new firefox release schedule
[00:56] <micahg> LLStarks: the 2 blueprints of any interest are how to handle firefox in the new world and default email client
[00:56] <micahg> LLStarks: we'll probably have to upgrade thunderbird to 3.3 or later soon anyways
[00:56] <BUGabundo> fta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6gBBVR-l1Y
[01:01] <LLStarks> wasn't chromium considered for default app? all i remember chris saying was that epiphany was off the table.
[01:02] <Omega> It's not getting a separate session
[01:02] <Omega> it's just going to be in the "default apps" session
[01:07] <micahg> LLStarks: no, I proposed switching to a system webkit based browser, that's been tabled, Firefox is the default
[01:07] <LLStarks> ah ok
[01:08] <Omega> micahg: where did you propose that?
[01:08] <micahg> Omega: that was the default web browser session
[01:09] <Omega> I didn't read anything about a system webkit based browser
[01:09] <micahg> Omega: that would be something like epiphany or midori
[01:11] <Omega> what was the ratiole behind it if I may ask?
[01:12] <micahg> Omega: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002885.html
[01:15] <Omega> Ah, that was you, I followed it, but forgot about it.
[01:49] <BUGabundo> nite
[02:11] <Omega> I'm going to start calling 11.10 ocelot, sounds cooler than oneiric.
[02:14] <nic___> what security fixes were made in Thinderbird 3.1.10
[02:16] <micahg> nic___: everything that affected Firefox 3.6.17: http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox36.html, I'll be releasing the update and publishing and advisory soon
[02:19] <nic___> im asking about Thunderbird. I'm at 3.1.8 Thunderbird. The Ubuntu main repo hasn't updated to 3.1.10. I'm wondering why. Is there a security update I should be worried about getting?
[02:20] <micahg> nic___: as I said, I'll be releasing the update shortly
[02:20] <nic___> sorry. I thought you were only speaking to Firefox.
[02:20] <micahg> nic___: the mozilla site hasn't updated the thunderbird advisrory list for this round yet :)
[02:22] <nic___> just out of curiosity, does mozilla not updating the advisory affect whether or not ubuntu gets an udpate? or its not relevant?
[02:22] <micahg> nic___: no, not relevant
[02:23] <micahg> nic___: there's regression testing required before the update can be pushed to the archives, this is what it's waiting on and it's almost done
[02:24] <nic___> oh. So it's making sure everything is stable and doesn't break anything. Cool. I was concerned I needed to be doing something to get the update. Thanks :)
[13:35] <Fudge> hi is xulrunner- needed on a standard natty
[14:06] <nic___> Is there a way to control the font size of Headers/Footers in Firefox and Thunderbird?  In Ubuntu, when printing, the headers/footers are always of large print. This problem doesn't occur in Windows.
[14:06] <nic___> I have reduced the Print_Scaling but this does not affect the header/footer font size. Only the content on the page.
[18:34] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, there?
[18:34] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hey - what's up?
[18:34] <chrisccoulson> do you have a few moments? i'm struggling with bug which appeared today :/
[18:35] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: sure - not sure if I'll be any help, but try me.  :)
[18:35] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, i'm looking at bug 777619
[18:35] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 777619 in globalmenu-extension/1.0 "Unused empty menu bar" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/777619
[18:36] <chrisccoulson> basically, what is happening is that the observer (in JS) which moves the spinner from the menubar to the toolbar isn't firing when the menuservice comes online
[18:36] <chrisccoulson> and it's because of the change in bug 767966
[18:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 767966 in globalmenu-extension/trunk "globalmenu extension pollutes main window javascript scope" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/767966
[18:36] <chrisccoulson> but i can't figure out why :/
[18:36] <m_conley> checking...
[18:36] <chrisccoulson> i thought that maybe the observer might be getting garbage collected, but i tried saving it in global scope and it didn't make any difference
[18:36] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, this is the branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~extension-hackers/globalmenu-extension/0.1
[18:37] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, and this is the change which breaks it: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~extension-hackers/globalmenu-extension/0.1/revision/147
[18:40] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: k - give me a few minutes
[18:40] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[18:40] <chrisccoulson> i might have to disappear for a bit in a few moments. it's my daughters bath time
[18:42] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, the weird thing is is that the equivalent code in firefox (to hide the "Show Menubar" option) is working fine :/
[18:42] <chrisccoulson> so i don't know if i've just missed something really silly ;)
[18:43] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: just going to run it through my debugger, and see if I can figure out what's going on
[18:44] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[18:54] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: I think there's some kind of race condition going on here - after hooking in my debugger, the event fired just fine..
[18:57] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: also, line 122 of thunderbirdMenu.js - should that be addEventListener("unload"?
[19:04] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: yeah, I think that's the problem - you're accidentally shutting down your menuObserver
[19:19] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, hah
[19:19] <chrisccoulson> well spotted ;)
[19:19] <chrisccoulson> i knew i could do with a second pair of eyes ;)
[19:19] <chrisccoulson> that's the sort of obvious bug i didn't look at ;)
[19:20] <chrisccoulson> thanks, will try that
[19:20] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: no worries. :D
[19:20] <m_conley> glad I could help.
[19:21] <chrisccoulson> it works :)
[19:21] <chrisccoulson> thanks!
[19:21] <chrisccoulson> i owe you a beer!
[19:22] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: in Budapest! :D
[19:38] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, do you use chromebug btw?
[19:38] <m_conley> I do!  Though it seems to segfault on the newer builds of TB.  :/
[19:39] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, which version are you using? i've got 1.8.0a2 here, but it doesn't seem to work in TB3.3
[19:40] <m_conley> I was using 1.7.1b2 - and yeah, I've seen that 1.8.0a2 is broken
[19:40] <m_conley> it's a really useful tool - it's pretty painful without it.  :p
[19:40] <m_conley> so I miss it. :/
[22:47] <BUGabundo> evening