| Randen | MitchM: what company do you work for? | 00:02 |
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| Snicersabc | Nice, well it ended up blocking my own IP for some reason today, so gonna have to figure that out. | 00:02 |
| MitchM | Randen, "EveronIT" | 00:02 |
| skyjumper | anyone else freelance here? | 00:02 |
| MitchM | I do some. | 00:03 |
| Snicersabc | I do some when I have time. | 00:03 |
| skyjumper | been a little curious what kind of rates / project prices people are getting | 00:03 |
| skyjumper | i contract for a couple of small marketing/dev firms who keep claiming they can't charge shit | 00:03 |
| * Randen does freelance regularly | 00:03 | |
| FunnyLookinHat | I do very little... too busy w/ the startup I work for :-/ | 00:04 |
| Randen | i charge $35/hr | 00:04 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Wish I could more :0 | 00:04 |
| FunnyLookinHat | That's all ? :) | 00:04 |
| Randen | but give price breaks on projects as a whole | 00:04 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I'll usually charge around $50/hour | 00:04 |
| Randen | im still pretty small time, i can really justify that much yet | 00:04 |
| FunnyLookinHat | And I'll price break projects, or charge less for more monotonous work (i.e. html vs. php) | 00:04 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Oh wow - quittin' time | 00:05 |
| Randen | some of my time is spent researching why shit wont work XD | 00:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | lol | 00:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | So just don't count those hours.. :) | 00:05 |
| Randen | fuck that i'd charge more for tedious HTML labor | 00:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | HTML is easy | 00:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | CSS is the pain. | 00:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | JS is the fun. | 00:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ok time to get out of here. | 00:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | bbl | 00:05 |
| Randen | picture cropping is annoying | 00:05 |
| skyjumper | FunnyLookinHat: seconded | 00:05 |
| Randen | cya | 00:05 |
| Snicersabc | later | 00:05 |
| FunnyLookinHat | You all should add this channel to your favs | 00:06 |
| Randen | done | 00:06 |
| * skyjumper will be idling | 00:06 | |
| Snicersabc | done | 00:06 |
| Randen | MitchM: if i shared a google doc with you, could you give me a ballpark on what i should charge a client for a project? | 00:08 |
| MitchM | Sure. | 00:08 |
| MitchM | mitchm87@gmail.com | 00:09 |
| Randen | sweet thanks.. sent | 00:09 |
| Randen | i had some indian company give me a quote but they are soooooo cheap | 00:09 |
| Randen | hard to beat their prices | 00:09 |
| Randen | $15/hr | 00:09 |
| skyjumper | easy to beat their quality tho >:D | 00:10 |
| Randen | very | 00:10 |
| Randen | most people dont see that though | 00:10 |
| Randen | im off work now, omw home, be back on in a bit | 00:10 |
| skyjumper | potential client yesterday said she wanted a CMS site for $150 | 00:11 |
| MitchM | Randen, how long will it take you to make the mobile app? | 00:11 |
| skyjumper | claimed she saw advertisements for that price | 00:11 |
| MitchM | hah. | 00:29 |
| MitchM | Randen, depending on how long that mobile app takes to build (not familiar with that) is how I adjust my price. | 00:29 |
| MitchM | not even here. | 00:29 |
| MitchM | nvm. | 00:29 |
| * Randen is back in action | 00:42 | |
| Randen | MitchM: so what would ya pitch a site like that for? | 00:43 |
| MitchM | myself, probably $500. | 00:43 |
| MitchM | depends on the client. | 00:43 |
| MitchM | and mostly on how long the mobile app takes. | 00:43 |
| Randen | you would use a CMS ya? | 00:43 |
| MitchM | I wouldn;t | 00:43 |
| Randen | ive never done a mobile app :P | 00:43 |
| MitchM | yeah. | 00:43 |
| MitchM | well, that's the kicker. | 00:43 |
| MitchM | mobile apps imho are hard | 00:43 |
| Randen | really $500 though? thats super cheap | 00:44 |
| MitchM | and i'd charge $3k for this :P | 00:44 |
| MitchM | well, that's not including the mobile app. | 00:44 |
| MitchM | yeah. but the site seemed fairly easy | 00:44 |
| Randen | welll still mobile apps aside | 00:44 |
| Randen | and if you arent using a pre-built CMS building an inventory managment system is a PITA | 00:44 |
| MitchM | looks like they are looking for a database with 2 tables | 00:45 |
| MitchM | and some alerting stuff | 00:45 |
| MitchM | could do that in a weekend yeah? | 00:45 |
| Randen | they are programmers so dont go off the Databases section | 00:45 |
| Randen | arent* | 00:45 |
| MitchM | kk | 00:45 |
| Randen | they need an e-commerce site | 00:45 |
| MitchM | oh. | 00:45 |
| MitchM | outline didn't really read that. | 00:45 |
| Randen | selling all those products and shipping them out at regular intervals | 00:46 |
| MitchM | $1200. | 00:46 |
| MitchM | with paypal integration. | 00:46 |
| MitchM | (they pay paypal) | 00:46 |
| Randen | plus being able to print off those audi sheets with barcodes attached to products | 00:46 |
| MitchM | and $125/hr for new feature requests. | 00:46 |
| MitchM | (which is hopefuly where you nickel and dime your revenue) | 00:46 |
| Randen | ok thats more like it | 00:46 |
| Randen | “My First Aid” | 00:47 |
| Randen | Picture of cabinet with items that are currently in customer’s cabinet | 00:47 |
| Randen | Ability to drag and drop items in and out of cabinet | 00:47 |
| Randen | Real time total on the shopping cart w/avg. of last 3 invoices | 00:47 |
| Randen | thats the part that triggered the "eCommerce" portion in my brain | 00:47 |
| Randen | even thought they didnt really specify | 00:47 |
| Randen | MitchM: anyways thanks for the input man, i appreciate it | 00:49 |
| MitchM | no problem. | 00:49 |
| MitchM | hope you get it / get paid! | 00:49 |
| Randen | hehe me too! | 00:50 |
| Snicersabc | Good morning Colorado | 16:08 |
| Snicersabc | Has anyone tried to install Ubuntu on their Android device? | 16:11 |
| skyjumper | i've got the chrooted, VNC'd ubuntu on my G2 | 16:13 |
| skyjumper | besides being "neat", it isn't too useful | 16:13 |
| Snicersabc | yeah | 16:21 |
| Snicersabc | That is what I am doing | 16:21 |
| Snicersabc | but mysql keeps trying to configure whenever I apt-get install anything | 16:21 |
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| === Mitch is now known as Guest23781 | ||
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| funnylookinhat | oh nice - the idlers stuck around! | 16:33 |
| funnylookinhat | More idlers = more members in my book :)( | 16:33 |
| funnylookinhat | *:) | 16:33 |
| skyjumper | *:) <-- flower in hair? | 16:40 |
| funnylookinhat | LOL | 17:05 |
| funnylookinhat | Sure. | 17:05 |
| MitchM | how cute | 17:11 |
| funnylookinhat | MitchM, jealous? | 17:13 |
| funnylookinhat | :D | 17:13 |
| MitchM | :D | 17:14 |
| Snicersabc | Back | 17:23 |
| Snicersabc | Who was it that was using CHROOT ubuntu on their G2? | 17:23 |
| skyjumper | Snicersabc: me | 17:47 |
| funnylookinhat | skyjumper, g2 or g2x ? | 17:47 |
| skyjumper | never heard of g2x | 17:48 |
| Snicersabc | skyjumper: did you have any issues with mysql on yours? | 17:51 |
| skyjumper | don't remember, it's been months | 17:51 |
| skyjumper | can you just remove mysql? | 17:52 |
| Snicersabc | Nope | 18:15 |
| Snicersabc | No matter what apt-get command I run it attempts to configure and restart mysql server | 18:16 |
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| MitchM | Snicersabc, you need to apt-get remove mysql | 19:45 |
| MitchM | Snicersabc, then clear the cache | 19:45 |
| MitchM | then perhaps just for good measure | 19:45 |
| MitchM | apt-get update | 19:45 |
| MitchM | apt-get install <bleh> | 19:46 |
| FunnyLookinHat | and if that doesn't work try an apt-get purge | 19:49 |
| MitchM | exactly. | 19:50 |
| MitchM | the purge command. | 19:50 |
| FunnyLookinHat | :D | 19:56 |
| Snicers | Is there anyway to update a server without having to restart it? | 23:13 |
| FunnyLookinHat | only if you don't have a kernel update | 23:51 |
| FunnyLookinHat | if you update the kernel you have to restart | 23:51 |
| Snicers | damn | 23:53 |
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