[00:02] MitchM: what company do you work for? [00:02] Nice, well it ended up blocking my own IP for some reason today, so gonna have to figure that out. [00:02] Randen, "EveronIT" [00:02] anyone else freelance here? [00:03] I do some. [00:03] I do some when I have time. [00:03] been a little curious what kind of rates / project prices people are getting [00:03] i contract for a couple of small marketing/dev firms who keep claiming they can't charge shit [00:03] * Randen does freelance regularly [00:04] I do very little... too busy w/ the startup I work for :-/ [00:04] i charge $35/hr [00:04] Wish I could more :0 [00:04] That's all ? :) [00:04] but give price breaks on projects as a whole [00:04] I'll usually charge around $50/hour [00:04] im still pretty small time, i can really justify that much yet [00:04] And I'll price break projects, or charge less for more monotonous work (i.e. html vs. php) [00:05] Oh wow - quittin' time [00:05] some of my time is spent researching why shit wont work XD [00:05] lol [00:05] So just don't count those hours.. :) [00:05] fuck that i'd charge more for tedious HTML labor [00:05] HTML is easy [00:05] CSS is the pain. [00:05] JS is the fun. [00:05] Ok time to get out of here. [00:05] bbl [00:05] picture cropping is annoying [00:05] FunnyLookinHat: seconded [00:05] cya [00:05] later [00:06] You all should add this channel to your favs [00:06] done [00:06] * skyjumper will be idling [00:06] done [00:08] MitchM: if i shared a google doc with you, could you give me a ballpark on what i should charge a client for a project? [00:08] Sure. [00:09] mitchm87@gmail.com [00:09] sweet thanks.. sent [00:09] i had some indian company give me a quote but they are soooooo cheap [00:09] hard to beat their prices [00:09] $15/hr [00:10] easy to beat their quality tho >:D [00:10] very [00:10] most people dont see that though [00:10] im off work now, omw home, be back on in a bit [00:11] potential client yesterday said she wanted a CMS site for $150 [00:11] Randen, how long will it take you to make the mobile app? [00:11] claimed she saw advertisements for that price [00:29] hah. [00:29] Randen, depending on how long that mobile app takes to build (not familiar with that) is how I adjust my price. [00:29] not even here. [00:29] nvm. [00:42] * Randen is back in action [00:43] MitchM: so what would ya pitch a site like that for? [00:43] myself, probably $500. [00:43] depends on the client. [00:43] and mostly on how long the mobile app takes. [00:43] you would use a CMS ya? [00:43] I wouldn;t [00:43] ive never done a mobile app :P [00:43] yeah. [00:43] well, that's the kicker. [00:43] mobile apps imho are hard [00:44] really $500 though? thats super cheap [00:44] and i'd charge $3k for this :P [00:44] well, that's not including the mobile app. [00:44] yeah. but the site seemed fairly easy [00:44] welll still mobile apps aside [00:44] and if you arent using a pre-built CMS building an inventory managment system is a PITA [00:45] looks like they are looking for a database with 2 tables [00:45] and some alerting stuff [00:45] could do that in a weekend yeah? [00:45] they are programmers so dont go off the Databases section [00:45] arent* [00:45] kk [00:45] they need an e-commerce site [00:45] oh. [00:45] outline didn't really read that. [00:46] selling all those products and shipping them out at regular intervals [00:46] $1200. [00:46] with paypal integration. [00:46] (they pay paypal) [00:46] plus being able to print off those audi sheets with barcodes attached to products [00:46] and $125/hr for new feature requests. [00:46] (which is hopefuly where you nickel and dime your revenue) [00:46] ok thats more like it [00:47] “My First Aid” [00:47] Picture of cabinet with items that are currently in customer’s cabinet [00:47] Ability to drag and drop items in and out of cabinet [00:47] Real time total on the shopping cart w/avg. of last 3 invoices [00:47] thats the part that triggered the "eCommerce" portion in my brain [00:47] even thought they didnt really specify [00:49] MitchM: anyways thanks for the input man, i appreciate it [00:49] no problem. [00:49] hope you get it / get paid! [00:50] hehe me too! [16:08] Good morning Colorado [16:11] Has anyone tried to install Ubuntu on their Android device? [16:13] i've got the chrooted, VNC'd ubuntu on my G2 [16:13] besides being "neat", it isn't too useful [16:21] yeah [16:21] That is what I am doing [16:21] but mysql keeps trying to configure whenever I apt-get install anything === MitchM_ is now known as Mitch === Mitch is now known as Guest23781 === Guest23781 is now known as MitchM [16:33] oh nice - the idlers stuck around! [16:33] More idlers = more members in my book :)( [16:33] *:) [16:40] *:) <-- flower in hair? [17:05] LOL [17:05] Sure. [17:11] how cute [17:13] MitchM, jealous? [17:13] :D [17:14] :D [17:23] Back [17:23] Who was it that was using CHROOT ubuntu on their G2? [17:47] Snicersabc: me [17:47] skyjumper, g2 or g2x ? [17:48] never heard of g2x [17:51] skyjumper: did you have any issues with mysql on yours? [17:51] don't remember, it's been months [17:52] can you just remove mysql? [18:15] Nope [18:16] No matter what apt-get command I run it attempts to configure and restart mysql server === funnylookinhat is now known as FunnyLookinHat [19:45] Snicersabc, you need to apt-get remove mysql [19:45] Snicersabc, then clear the cache [19:45] then perhaps just for good measure [19:45] apt-get update [19:46] apt-get install [19:49] and if that doesn't work try an apt-get purge [19:50] exactly. [19:50] the purge command. [19:56] :D [23:13] Is there anyway to update a server without having to restart it? [23:51] only if you don't have a kernel update [23:51] if you update the kernel you have to restart [23:53] damn