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=== Team-Xlink is now known as TeamXlink
TeamXlinkSomeone else has accessed my gmail account, I've found the address via the IP and changed my password, but what else should I do?01:27
_stink_TeamXlink: if that same password is used anywhere else, change it in those other places01:37
TeamXlinkAlright, I will.01:45
TeamXlinkThank you.01:45
TeamXlinkAnything else I should do as well?01:45
greg-gTeamXlink: make sure to not use non-https sites when transmitting your password02:15
rick_h__woot, I can haz new mug.org05:27
rick_h__Blazeix: feature request, anchor tags for the groups and such05:31
rick_h__hmm, and guess I should write up something new for CHC to help with the branding05:32
Blazeixrick_h__: where would the anchor tags link to? intrapage links?05:35
rick_h__yea, just immediatelyh went to link to the CHC group section of the page in irc05:35
rick_h__like a wiki/docs05:35
rick_h__guess too used to sphinx docs atm05:35
rick_h__if I were to use that page to link to a group, it would be cool to grab the anchor to that group on the page05:36
Blazeixgotcha05:37
Blazeixrick_h__: ok, poorman's anchor tags: http://www.mug.org/groups/#CHC05:42
BlazeixI'll get a UI up there in a bit05:42
rick_h__:) awesome05:42
rick_h__no hurry obviously. Talk about the finer points05:42
rick_h__I cheat all the time and use dev tools to inspect for them sans-ui all the time05:42
Blazeixyeah, I find myself doing that too. specially when sending web documentation to other people05:43
rick_h__http://blog.lastpass.com/2011/05/lastpass-security-notification.html11:38
rick_h__I hate humanity that is all... *sigh*11:38
snap-lrick_h__: I wonder how much of this is fallout from the attacks of last year.13:25
snap-lie: we're able to get to blah, so the rest just fall like dominoes13:25
snap-lOn another note, I'm loving how the doomsday scenario for Mono is coming true13:25
snap-lexcept it's Oracle and Java, not Microsoft and .Net.13:25
rick_h__http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/05/google-javascript-chrome/ love this one13:26
rick_h__snap-l: I have no idea what's up. But at least when it was sony/dsl reports it wasn't crap I used13:26
rick_h__I moved to lastpass because I was trying to be better about security/passwords13:26
snap-lrick_h__: I was thinking about it as well13:27
rick_h__and this whole "they maybe got stuff, but surely not your passwords you store" makes me very very nervous13:27
rick_h__I mean, sure, the first thing I did was to go redo my master password with 2x the characters13:27
snap-land I've come to the determination that the cloud is where you put things that you know will eventually get shared without your permission13:27
rick_h__but still, it's almost crazy to go change every password I have in lastpassword13:27
wolfger*yawn*13:57
wolfgersomebody help me stay awake, plz13:57
snap-lbeer13:57
snap-lat the end of the day, there's beer.13:57
wolfgerbeer would put me to sleep13:58
snap-lright, but the promise of beer should keep you awake13:58
wolfgerand beer at the end of the day does nothing to incent me to stay awake *until* the end of the day... in fact, it makes me want a nap so that the first beer I drink doesn't put me to sleep.13:59
wolfger...and I'm already drinking coffee... not good enough13:59
wolfger20 oz of coffee and a 5-hour energy, and I'm barely conscious... :-p14:00
snap-lMan, sometimes I wonder why I get tracking numbers from the post office14:01
snap-lGot a package that apparently doesn't exist.14:02
snap-lOh, nice14:02
snap-lThey're using something called "Newgistics"14:03
snap-lno wonder the post office has NFC what it is. ;)14:03
wolfgerNewgistics?14:03
wolfgerBecause it's new, and not logical?14:03
snap-lhttp://www.newgistics.com/14:03
snap-lhttp://www.newgistics.com/corp_partners/alliances.aspx <- I <3 the clipart on this page14:04
wolfgerLOL14:04
snap-l"I'm so strong, I crush your package with my biceps alone"14:04
wolfgerwe're going to box <clap> you up!14:05
greg-gyes, I'm in some sort of hell where I have to seriously consider doing this: http://www.qimacros.com/free-excel-tips/excel-merge-worsheets.html14:05
snap-lgreg-g: Congratulations. You're using Excel for it's intended purpose. ;)14:06
wolfger$200 for a specialty app? Egads!14:06
snap-lUm, wait... no, you're not14:06
snap-lExcel is not mail-merge. :)14:06
wolfgerI don't even like to pay that much for the entire OS14:06
wolfgerhttp://www3.activestate.com/index.php/email/emailWebview?mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRonsqvJZKXonjHpfsX66%2BwoUaCzlMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4AS8RmI%2FqLAzICFpZo2FFZGfScaoVT7vRJDg%3D%3D14:08
greg-gsnap-l: yeah, kinda, only, merging two things based on a common key would be soooo much more easy with a db, I'm assuming :), this VLOOKUP bs is just nasty14:09
brouschgreg-g: http://www.python-excel.org/14:09
snap-lgreg-g: Yes.14:09
wolfgerI've read that twice, and I still don't understand what an "enterprise cloud platform for Python and Perl applications" really is.14:10
wolfgerI mean.... cgi-bin is a "cloud" platform for perl apps.....14:11
greg-gbrousch: omg!14:11
brouschyes, it is a beautiful thing14:12
brouschi use it to parse our 401k exports from quickbooks to csv our provider can understand14:13
jrwrensnap-l: you are actually loving how the doomsday scenario for mono is coming true?14:28
snap-lNo, not at al14:29
jrwrenor you are loving how stupid the internets are to overract, jump to conclusions and trust a suspect news report from an unreliable outlet?14:29
snap-lbut I'm loving that the players aren't who they thought it would be14:29
jrwrensnap-l: OH!... except its oracle and java... zomg I get it now.  U R smart!14:29
jrwrensnap-l: holy shit, I never really thought about just how similar the scenario is!14:29
jrwrenbut oracle isn't suing over patents right? they are more abusing the open core model.14:29
snap-lhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/05/oracle_subpoena_asf_android_harmony/14:30
jrwrensnap-l: high five!14:30
* ColonelPanic001 is about to install Natty (Kubuntu)14:31
snap-lColonelPanic001: Good luck!14:31
snap-ljrwren: https://twitter.com/#!/squeekyhoho/statuses/6611385265121689614:32
ColonelPanic001http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/05/04/1511253/Chinese-iPad-Factory-Staff-Forced-To-Sign-No-Suicide-Pledge14:33
_stink_what's the penalty for breaking the pledge?14:33
snap-lColonelPanic001: Yeah, that'll work14:33
ColonelPanic001_stink_: execution14:33
_stink_how inhumane!14:34
snap-l_stink_: likely your family won't be compensated14:34
_stink_gah14:34
snap-lwhich could be enough of a deterrent14:34
snap-lAlso, you'd bring dishonor for not obeying the pledge14:35
_stink_snap-l: bingo, "they were made to promise that if they did, their families would only seek the legal minimum in damages14:35
_stink_Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382396/Workers-Chinese-Apple-factories-forced-sign-pledges-commit-suicide.html#ixzz1LU7aQAB114:35
_stink_oops14:35
_stink_sry bad paste14:35
ColonelPanic001at least you didn't accidently paste filenames of pr0n videos14:35
ColonelPanic001I haven't done that. >_>14:36
_stink_or the second chapter of my raunchy romance novel14:36
ColonelPanic001pastebin plz14:36
snap-lNah, chapter 4. Everyone knows the first three chapters are just filler14:37
snap-lso I've been told14:37
_stink_i guess i need an editor14:38
ColonelPanic001:\14:39
ColonelPanic001http://www.questionablecontent.net/comics/1919.png14:39
wolfgerColonelPanic001: There's something to be said about a factory that even thinks they need a no-suicide pledge for the people who work there.15:00
snap-lwolfger: ++15:06
=== zpowers is now known as Milyardo
snap-lI <3 working with Java developers that use Windows.16:16
snap-lGot a lovely little .bat script that I need to modify to make work16:16
brouschnot a beanshell script?16:17
snap-lGive me a break.16:19
binbrainthese guys have great Ubnutn support http://www.alfa.com.tw/in/front/bin/ptlist.phtml?Category=10541516:55
snap-lI love it when I see people rate something as 1 out of 5 stars, when they mean to rate it 5 stars17:19
snap-lSeller was awesome! 1 star!17:19
wolfgerheh17:20
BlazeixI know this probably isn't the right channel, but oh my god is microsoft's MVC framework awesome.17:57
Blazeixfrom what little I've seen so far17:57
Blazeixthey're using the 'dynamic' keyword a lot, so it's basically resembles python coding.17:58
Blazeixalso cool, MVC defaults to using HTML5 and modernizr.js18:09
snap-lhttp://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/h4c23/is_mono_dead_is_novell_dying/c1shs0418:11
snap-lI can't takes no more18:11
jrwrenBlazeix: it is awesome :)18:12
jrwrenbut I haven't seen where MVC3 really uses dynamic a lot.18:12
jrwrenI've seen where Web Pages and Web Matrix use it.18:12
Blazeixwell, I opened up the basic tutorial, and the viewbag is dynamic18:12
Blazeixso you can go ViewBag.foo = "bar", and foo is available in your view18:13
jrwrenah, nice.18:13
jrwrenI still like strong types.18:13
Blazeixso they might not use it extensively, but you're definitely hit in the face with it first thing :)18:13
jrwrenbut I guess with Razor being dynamic it makes sense that the view data be dynamic18:13
MilyardoHrmmm... I'm slightly uncomfertable with Ubuntu One arbitrarily segmenting access to content over a different medium in the case of its Mobile plan, anyone know the reasoning behind it?18:43
snap-lThe subscriptions?18:47
Milyardo?18:48
snap-lUbuntu One mobile is subscription based18:48
snap-lYou have to pay 3.99 to use the music client18:48
snap-l(per month)18:48
jjesseto stream to my phone i have to pay a month charge?18:48
snap-lOr you can pay per year18:48
snap-land yes. :)18:49
jjessebummer i'll stick w/ amazon's cloud player18:49
snap-lYeah, I installed the client on my iPhone, and noticed it was a separate charge18:49
snap-lfrankly, that killed the enthusiasm right there18:49
MilyardoYeah that was the question, why segment out a subscription model just because I'm acessing content via a different medium?18:50
snap-lMilyardo: Probably to pay for development of the iphone / android app?18:50
snap-lDunno for sure18:50
snap-lPersonally, I'd be happier with paying a little more for the disk space, and getting the streaming as a bonus18:51
snap-lcompared with Drop Box, Ubuntu One is cheaper18:51
MilyardoWell put a charge for the Application in their repsective Markets I guess then18:51
jjessebut amazon cloud drive for 20gigs is currently cheaper :)18:51
jjesse$5 cd and 20 gigs of disk space18:52
snap-ljjesse: Only a matter of time18:52
jjesseupload music to my amazon cloud player and then stream for free over my phone18:52
snap-ljjesse: Just install Ubuntu on your phone. Then you'll have Banshee. ;)18:53
jjessei'm sure thats easy :)18:53
brouschand battery-efficient18:54
snap-lBut it can't hibernate18:55
Milyardosnap-l: but it boots so quickly!19:01
snap-lMan, Windows XP's update mechanism on this machine is terrible19:06
snap-lkeeps popping up a "New programs are ready to be installed at xx:xx"19:06
brouschxx:xx?19:14
snap-lTime19:14
snap-lI really hate Java: http://blogs.sun.com/ritzmann/entry/metro_2_0_on_java19:30
snap-lAlso: http://jax-ws.java.net/faq/index.html#2.1with_se5_se620:03
=== lotia is now known as lotia-away
snap-lApproaching nerd rage: http://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/h4c23/is_mono_dead_is_novell_dying/c1shs0421:10
brouschwow, i didn't know rackspace was killing slicehost. i just shut down my last slice like 2 months ago21:11
snap-lNever thought I'd be defending Mono, but I'm getting really tired of people not seeing the bigger threat in front of them21:13
brouschsnap-l: you're frothing21:13
brouschwe might have to have you put down21:13
snap-lYou're damn right I am21:13
* brousch preps the shot gun and looks for a shed21:14
jjessecan you live stream your explosion?21:15
snap-ljjesse: Nah, but I'll definitely videotape it21:16
jjesseawesome21:16
rick_h__did I miass anything?21:19
snap-lhey rick_h__21:19
rick_h__and owwwwwwwwwwwwwwww21:19
snap-lhow are things over there?21:19
rick_h__the frenectomy is hurting more than the wisdom teeth21:19
snap-llingual or labial?21:20
_stink_rick_h__: oh man, major mouth surgery?21:20
rick_h__well, was all birds with one stone21:21
snap-lalso, wikipedia's frenectomy page? NSFW21:21
rick_h__and things are starting to wear off, ouch21:21
_stink_snap-l: thank you for the warning, i was about to click it21:21
rick_h__ouch21:21
_stink_rick_h__: wisdom teeth out?21:21
rick_h__well that explains all the blood21:21
rick_h__yea, 4 wisdom's and the frenectomy todya21:21
_stink_damn... i need mine out.21:22
rick_h__yea, I've put it off for years21:22
rick_h__and finally had to do it21:22
_stink_same boat as me.21:22
_stink_:/21:22
rick_h__heh, well glad I'm not the last one out there I guess21:23
brouschfrenectomy? you're getting gene simmons tongue?21:24
rick_h__heh not quite21:24
brouschi have all my wisdom teeth. they fit fine21:24
rick_h__getting my lip detached from my gums21:24
rick_h__3 of mine are gone sideways21:24
brouschthe dentist complains every cleaning, "i can't get back to those wisdom teeth, you should have them out"21:25
rick_h__yea, that's been a pain as well21:25
rick_h__trying to keep them clean21:25
brouschum, no, i'm not pulling my teeth just to make your job a little easier21:25
rick_h__started to get a cavity in one at the last visit21:25
brouschright, so you had a reason21:26
rick_h__yea, I've been putting it off for years21:26
rick_h__pay the piper21:26
brouschso what's with the lip thing?21:27
rick_h__gap in my teeth is due to that muscle being too big/strong and pulling against them21:28
rick_h__dangerous long term and can pull teeth out somewhat and open gaps in gums21:28
brouschfascinating21:28
rick_h__you should have gone into oral surgery :P21:29
brouschno, i get squeemish when i have to cut something alive21:30
_stink_same here21:30
_stink_i can't even think about it21:30
brouschi can look at it all day, but can't do it21:30
jrwrensnap-l: thanks for relinking that reddit shit so I can up and down vote appropriately :)21:54
snap-ljrwren: This guy hit my breaking point22:01
snap-lhttp://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/h4c23/is_mono_dead_is_novell_dying/c1sn65y22:01
snap-lNot going to go so far as calling him an idiot, but he's being disingenuous22:02
Team-XlinkDoes anyone know of an online archive of roguesci?22:34
snap-lNeed a hint what that is.22:40
snap-lOh, you mean the Anarchist's Cookbook sort of thing22:40
snap-lI'm about 20 years away from being curious about that sort of thing. ;)22:40
Team-XlinkWell it was a website that was much more valid then the Anarchist's Cookbook, (Or so I've been told, RogueSci was down before I knew about it.).22:43
Team-Xlink./nick TeamXlink22:43
=== Team-Xlink is now known as TeamXlink
snap-lHey DBO22:46
snap-lJust wanted to thank you for the push for Unity22:46
snap-lLots of good stuff at the last minute. :)22:47
DBO:)22:50
DBOtwas not easy22:51

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