[00:06] oh, jordon left :/ === Team-Xlink is now known as TeamXlink [01:27] Someone else has accessed my gmail account, I've found the address via the IP and changed my password, but what else should I do? [01:37] <_stink_> TeamXlink: if that same password is used anywhere else, change it in those other places [01:45] Alright, I will. [01:45] Thank you. [01:45] Anything else I should do as well? [02:15] TeamXlink: make sure to not use non-https sites when transmitting your password [05:27] woot, I can haz new mug.org [05:31] Blazeix: feature request, anchor tags for the groups and such [05:32] hmm, and guess I should write up something new for CHC to help with the branding [05:35] rick_h__: where would the anchor tags link to? intrapage links? [05:35] yea, just immediatelyh went to link to the CHC group section of the page in irc [05:35] like a wiki/docs [05:35] guess too used to sphinx docs atm [05:36] if I were to use that page to link to a group, it would be cool to grab the anchor to that group on the page [05:37] gotcha [05:42] rick_h__: ok, poorman's anchor tags: http://www.mug.org/groups/#CHC [05:42] I'll get a UI up there in a bit [05:42] :) awesome [05:42] no hurry obviously. Talk about the finer points [05:42] I cheat all the time and use dev tools to inspect for them sans-ui all the time [05:43] yeah, I find myself doing that too. specially when sending web documentation to other people [11:38] http://blog.lastpass.com/2011/05/lastpass-security-notification.html [11:38] I hate humanity that is all... *sigh* [13:25] rick_h__: I wonder how much of this is fallout from the attacks of last year. [13:25] ie: we're able to get to blah, so the rest just fall like dominoes [13:25] On another note, I'm loving how the doomsday scenario for Mono is coming true [13:25] except it's Oracle and Java, not Microsoft and .Net. [13:26] http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/05/google-javascript-chrome/ love this one [13:26] snap-l: I have no idea what's up. But at least when it was sony/dsl reports it wasn't crap I used [13:26] I moved to lastpass because I was trying to be better about security/passwords [13:27] rick_h__: I was thinking about it as well [13:27] and this whole "they maybe got stuff, but surely not your passwords you store" makes me very very nervous [13:27] I mean, sure, the first thing I did was to go redo my master password with 2x the characters [13:27] and I've come to the determination that the cloud is where you put things that you know will eventually get shared without your permission [13:27] but still, it's almost crazy to go change every password I have in lastpassword [13:57] *yawn* [13:57] somebody help me stay awake, plz [13:57] beer [13:57] at the end of the day, there's beer. [13:58] beer would put me to sleep [13:58] right, but the promise of beer should keep you awake [13:59] and beer at the end of the day does nothing to incent me to stay awake *until* the end of the day... in fact, it makes me want a nap so that the first beer I drink doesn't put me to sleep. [13:59] ...and I'm already drinking coffee... not good enough [14:00] 20 oz of coffee and a 5-hour energy, and I'm barely conscious... :-p [14:01] Man, sometimes I wonder why I get tracking numbers from the post office [14:02] Got a package that apparently doesn't exist. [14:02] Oh, nice [14:03] They're using something called "Newgistics" [14:03] no wonder the post office has NFC what it is. ;) [14:03] Newgistics? [14:03] Because it's new, and not logical? [14:03] http://www.newgistics.com/ [14:04] http://www.newgistics.com/corp_partners/alliances.aspx <- I <3 the clipart on this page [14:04] LOL [14:04] "I'm so strong, I crush your package with my biceps alone" [14:05] we're going to box you up! [14:05] yes, I'm in some sort of hell where I have to seriously consider doing this: http://www.qimacros.com/free-excel-tips/excel-merge-worsheets.html [14:06] greg-g: Congratulations. You're using Excel for it's intended purpose. ;) [14:06] $200 for a specialty app? Egads! [14:06] Um, wait... no, you're not [14:06] Excel is not mail-merge. :) [14:06] I don't even like to pay that much for the entire OS [14:08] http://www3.activestate.com/index.php/email/emailWebview?mkt_tok=3RkMMJWWfF9wsRonsqvJZKXonjHpfsX66%2BwoUaCzlMI%2F0ER3fOvrPUfGjI4AS8RmI%2FqLAzICFpZo2FFZGfScaoVT7vRJDg%3D%3D [14:09] snap-l: yeah, kinda, only, merging two things based on a common key would be soooo much more easy with a db, I'm assuming :), this VLOOKUP bs is just nasty [14:09] greg-g: http://www.python-excel.org/ [14:09] greg-g: Yes. [14:10] I've read that twice, and I still don't understand what an "enterprise cloud platform for Python and Perl applications" really is. [14:11] I mean.... cgi-bin is a "cloud" platform for perl apps..... [14:11] brousch: omg! [14:12] yes, it is a beautiful thing [14:13] i use it to parse our 401k exports from quickbooks to csv our provider can understand [14:28] snap-l: you are actually loving how the doomsday scenario for mono is coming true? [14:29] No, not at al [14:29] or you are loving how stupid the internets are to overract, jump to conclusions and trust a suspect news report from an unreliable outlet? [14:29] but I'm loving that the players aren't who they thought it would be [14:29] snap-l: OH!... except its oracle and java... zomg I get it now. U R smart! [14:29] snap-l: holy shit, I never really thought about just how similar the scenario is! [14:29] but oracle isn't suing over patents right? they are more abusing the open core model. [14:30] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/05/oracle_subpoena_asf_android_harmony/ [14:30] snap-l: high five! [14:31] * ColonelPanic001 is about to install Natty (Kubuntu) [14:31] ColonelPanic001: Good luck! [14:32] jrwren: https://twitter.com/#!/squeekyhoho/statuses/66113852651216896 [14:33] http://idle.slashdot.org/story/11/05/04/1511253/Chinese-iPad-Factory-Staff-Forced-To-Sign-No-Suicide-Pledge [14:33] <_stink_> what's the penalty for breaking the pledge? [14:33] ColonelPanic001: Yeah, that'll work [14:33] _stink_: execution [14:34] <_stink_> how inhumane! [14:34] _stink_: likely your family won't be compensated [14:34] <_stink_> gah [14:34] which could be enough of a deterrent [14:35] Also, you'd bring dishonor for not obeying the pledge [14:35] <_stink_> snap-l: bingo, "they were made to promise that if they did, their families would only seek the legal minimum in damages [14:35] <_stink_> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382396/Workers-Chinese-Apple-factories-forced-sign-pledges-commit-suicide.html#ixzz1LU7aQAB1 [14:35] <_stink_> oops [14:35] <_stink_> sry bad paste [14:35] at least you didn't accidently paste filenames of pr0n videos [14:36] I haven't done that. >_> [14:36] <_stink_> or the second chapter of my raunchy romance novel [14:36] pastebin plz [14:37] Nah, chapter 4. Everyone knows the first three chapters are just filler [14:37] so I've been told [14:38] <_stink_> i guess i need an editor [14:39] :\ [14:39] http://www.questionablecontent.net/comics/1919.png [15:00] ColonelPanic001: There's something to be said about a factory that even thinks they need a no-suicide pledge for the people who work there. [15:06] wolfger: ++ === zpowers is now known as Milyardo [16:16] I <3 working with Java developers that use Windows. [16:16] Got a lovely little .bat script that I need to modify to make work [16:17] not a beanshell script? [16:19] Give me a break. [16:55] these guys have great Ubnutn support http://www.alfa.com.tw/in/front/bin/ptlist.phtml?Category=105415 [17:19] I love it when I see people rate something as 1 out of 5 stars, when they mean to rate it 5 stars [17:19] Seller was awesome! 1 star! [17:20] heh [17:57] I know this probably isn't the right channel, but oh my god is microsoft's MVC framework awesome. [17:57] from what little I've seen so far [17:58] they're using the 'dynamic' keyword a lot, so it's basically resembles python coding. [18:09] also cool, MVC defaults to using HTML5 and modernizr.js [18:11] http://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/h4c23/is_mono_dead_is_novell_dying/c1shs04 [18:11] I can't takes no more [18:12] Blazeix: it is awesome :) [18:12] but I haven't seen where MVC3 really uses dynamic a lot. [18:12] I've seen where Web Pages and Web Matrix use it. [18:12] well, I opened up the basic tutorial, and the viewbag is dynamic [18:13] so you can go ViewBag.foo = "bar", and foo is available in your view [18:13] ah, nice. [18:13] I still like strong types. [18:13] so they might not use it extensively, but you're definitely hit in the face with it first thing :) [18:13] but I guess with Razor being dynamic it makes sense that the view data be dynamic [18:43] Hrmmm... I'm slightly uncomfertable with Ubuntu One arbitrarily segmenting access to content over a different medium in the case of its Mobile plan, anyone know the reasoning behind it? [18:47] The subscriptions? [18:48] ? [18:48] Ubuntu One mobile is subscription based [18:48] You have to pay 3.99 to use the music client [18:48] (per month) [18:48] to stream to my phone i have to pay a month charge? [18:48] Or you can pay per year [18:49] and yes. :) [18:49] bummer i'll stick w/ amazon's cloud player [18:49] Yeah, I installed the client on my iPhone, and noticed it was a separate charge [18:49] frankly, that killed the enthusiasm right there [18:50] Yeah that was the question, why segment out a subscription model just because I'm acessing content via a different medium? [18:50] Milyardo: Probably to pay for development of the iphone / android app? [18:50] Dunno for sure [18:51] Personally, I'd be happier with paying a little more for the disk space, and getting the streaming as a bonus [18:51] compared with Drop Box, Ubuntu One is cheaper [18:51] Well put a charge for the Application in their repsective Markets I guess then [18:51] but amazon cloud drive for 20gigs is currently cheaper :) [18:52] $5 cd and 20 gigs of disk space [18:52] jjesse: Only a matter of time [18:52] upload music to my amazon cloud player and then stream for free over my phone [18:53] jjesse: Just install Ubuntu on your phone. Then you'll have Banshee. ;) [18:53] i'm sure thats easy :) [18:54] and battery-efficient [18:55] But it can't hibernate [19:01] snap-l: but it boots so quickly! [19:06] Man, Windows XP's update mechanism on this machine is terrible [19:06] keeps popping up a "New programs are ready to be installed at xx:xx" [19:14] xx:xx? [19:14] Time [19:30] I really hate Java: http://blogs.sun.com/ritzmann/entry/metro_2_0_on_java [20:03] Also: http://jax-ws.java.net/faq/index.html#2.1with_se5_se6 === lotia is now known as lotia-away [21:10] Approaching nerd rage: http://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/h4c23/is_mono_dead_is_novell_dying/c1shs04 [21:11] wow, i didn't know rackspace was killing slicehost. i just shut down my last slice like 2 months ago [21:13] Never thought I'd be defending Mono, but I'm getting really tired of people not seeing the bigger threat in front of them [21:13] snap-l: you're frothing [21:13] we might have to have you put down [21:13] You're damn right I am [21:14] * brousch preps the shot gun and looks for a shed [21:15] can you live stream your explosion? [21:16] jjesse: Nah, but I'll definitely videotape it [21:16] awesome [21:19] did I miass anything? [21:19] hey rick_h__ [21:19] and owwwwwwwwwwwwwwww [21:19] how are things over there? [21:19] the frenectomy is hurting more than the wisdom teeth [21:20] lingual or labial? [21:20] <_stink_> rick_h__: oh man, major mouth surgery? [21:21] well, was all birds with one stone [21:21] also, wikipedia's frenectomy page? NSFW [21:21] and things are starting to wear off, ouch [21:21] <_stink_> snap-l: thank you for the warning, i was about to click it [21:21] ouch [21:21] <_stink_> rick_h__: wisdom teeth out? [21:21] well that explains all the blood [21:21] yea, 4 wisdom's and the frenectomy todya [21:22] <_stink_> damn... i need mine out. [21:22] yea, I've put it off for years [21:22] and finally had to do it [21:22] <_stink_> same boat as me. [21:22] <_stink_> :/ [21:23] heh, well glad I'm not the last one out there I guess [21:24] frenectomy? you're getting gene simmons tongue? [21:24] heh not quite [21:24] i have all my wisdom teeth. they fit fine [21:24] getting my lip detached from my gums [21:24] 3 of mine are gone sideways [21:25] the dentist complains every cleaning, "i can't get back to those wisdom teeth, you should have them out" [21:25] yea, that's been a pain as well [21:25] trying to keep them clean [21:25] um, no, i'm not pulling my teeth just to make your job a little easier [21:25] started to get a cavity in one at the last visit [21:26] right, so you had a reason [21:26] yea, I've been putting it off for years [21:26] pay the piper [21:27] so what's with the lip thing? [21:28] gap in my teeth is due to that muscle being too big/strong and pulling against them [21:28] dangerous long term and can pull teeth out somewhat and open gaps in gums [21:28] fascinating [21:29] you should have gone into oral surgery :P [21:30] no, i get squeemish when i have to cut something alive [21:30] <_stink_> same here [21:30] <_stink_> i can't even think about it [21:30] i can look at it all day, but can't do it [21:54] snap-l: thanks for relinking that reddit shit so I can up and down vote appropriately :) [22:01] jrwren: This guy hit my breaking point [22:01] http://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/h4c23/is_mono_dead_is_novell_dying/c1sn65y [22:02] Not going to go so far as calling him an idiot, but he's being disingenuous [22:34] Does anyone know of an online archive of roguesci? [22:40] Need a hint what that is. [22:40] Oh, you mean the Anarchist's Cookbook sort of thing [22:40] I'm about 20 years away from being curious about that sort of thing. ;) [22:43] Well it was a website that was much more valid then the Anarchist's Cookbook, (Or so I've been told, RogueSci was down before I knew about it.). [22:43] ./nick TeamXlink === Team-Xlink is now known as TeamXlink [22:46] Hey DBO [22:46] Just wanted to thank you for the push for Unity [22:47] Lots of good stuff at the last minute. :) [22:50] :) [22:51] twas not easy