| _marx_ | well i think i like the classic better | 00:23 |
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| _marx_ | have to try w/vbox running see if there are display oddities | 00:24 |
| Italian_Plumber | is there some magic I need to do so that Ubuntu doesn't take up gobs and gobs of CPU time when copying, moving, or deleting files? Even on a headless system, just deleting a bunch of files has bumped my load average to close to "3". | 00:24 |
| _marx_ | Italian_Plumber: i've only seen that when using nautilus | 00:26 |
| Italian_Plumber | hmm | 00:26 |
| _marx_ | you mean between hosts? | 00:27 |
| Italian_Plumber | no ... on the local hd | 00:27 |
| Italian_Plumber | well it's coming down now. it's still been close to 2 for the last 10 minutes | 00:28 |
| _marx_ | 2%? | 00:29 |
| Italian_Plumber | no .. the load average... the 10 minute load average is 1.87 | 00:29 |
| Italian_Plumber | and it's taken about that long to delete all these files. | 00:29 |
| Italian_Plumber | now it's done and then 1 minute load average is plummetting | 00:30 |
| _marx_ | top htop | 00:30 |
| Italian_Plumber | hmm... must be something else... now it's creeping back up again and it's done deleting the files. | 00:31 |
| * _marx_ fixin' to move a devel drupal site from vbox server to iron server | 00:32 | |
| _marx_ | this will also test for display garbage on natty classic | 00:33 |
| _marx_ | using vbox on unity i have black blocks and distorted alt text on the launcher | 00:34 |
| _marx_ | Italian_Plumber: what were you using to monitor load? | 00:45 |
| Italian_Plumber | top | 00:49 |
| Italian_Plumber | and w | 00:49 |
| Italian_Plumber | I think that other factors were in play though, since the load was still high even after the copying was done. | 00:53 |
| marco_polo | date | 01:20 |
| marco_polo | ah, don't know how to reconnect to a byobu session | 01:29 |
| holstein | unity in the house? !! | 15:13 |
| * holstein is looking for a nice dual head card | 15:16 | |
| holstein | any suggestions? | 15:16 |
| holstein | gaming is not important | 15:16 |
| holstein | if there were an intel PCIe graphics card | 15:16 |
| holstein | id get it | 15:16 |
| holstein | i just need something preferebly out of the box easy | 15:17 |
| holstein | maybe with 3d supported by the open driver | 15:17 |
| holstein | dual vga out | 15:17 |
| holstein | PCIe | 15:17 |
| * holstein looking @ http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames | 15:19 | |
| junior_ | ello all | 16:03 |
| holstein | junior_: o/ | 16:04 |
| junior_ | i come in hopes of getting some help with unbuntu. i have a gateway dx 4200 and want to install ubuntu as a dual boot. | 16:05 |
| holstein | cool | 16:06 |
| holstein | junior_: what are you planning on installing? | 16:06 |
| holstein | 10.04? | 16:06 |
| holstein | 11.04? | 16:06 |
| junior_ | 11.04 | 16:07 |
| holstein | have you downloaded an image? | 16:07 |
| holstein | and burned it? | 16:07 |
| junior_ | yes and made a bootable usb | 16:07 |
| holstein | junior_: with unetbootin? | 16:08 |
| junior_ | i boot from usb and i get a sceen asking me if i want to run from usb install ubuntu to a hard drive , memory check and i forget the other option. i select install ubuntu to a drive and it goes to a black screen and runs a series of checks and what not after a few minutes i get a total black screen with no typing or anything | 16:09 |
| holstein | junior_: have you tried it live? | 16:09 |
| holstein | you should always try it live first | 16:10 |
| junior_ | it wont try live either | 16:10 |
| holstein | thats a great and easy troubleshooting step | 16:10 |
| holstein | right | 16:10 |
| holstein | SO | 16:10 |
| holstein | thats what you need to troubleshoot | 16:10 |
| holstein | THEN, you'll know how to install | 16:10 |
| junior_ | ive tryed live and it wont boot into ubuntu | 16:10 |
| holstein | junior_: right | 16:10 |
| holstein | i got it :) | 16:10 |
| holstein | SO, let me make a few suggestions | 16:11 |
| holstein | because, you'll need to figure out how to get the live environment booted | 16:11 |
| holstein | then, insatlling will be easier | 16:11 |
| holstein | junior_: did you make the USB with unetbootin? | 16:11 |
| junior_ | i used the universal usb installer from the ubuntu download page | 16:12 |
| holstein | OK | 16:12 |
| holstein | while its booting up | 16:12 |
| holstein | you want to try and get to the old splash screen | 16:13 |
| holstein | where you can hit F4 i think it is | 16:13 |
| holstein | and try selecting nomodeset | 16:13 |
| holstein | if i were you | 16:14 |
| holstein | i would DL the 10.04 LTS image | 16:14 |
| holstein | burn an actual CD | 16:14 |
| holstein | and try that live | 16:14 |
| holstein | when its booting you can hit shift | 16:14 |
| holstein | and get to those options | 16:15 |
| junior_ | ok ill have to run to the store quickly for sum blanks. cd or dvd ? | 16:15 |
| holstein | cd | 16:16 |
| holstein | you can try the USB boot | 16:16 |
| holstein | i would use unetbootin* | 16:16 |
| holstein | *should* work fine | 16:16 |
| junior_ | 10.04 lts is the version i should select for download? | 16:17 |
| holstein | thats up to you | 16:17 |
| holstein | BUT, thats what i would do | 16:17 |
| junior_ | should i go with 32 bit or 64 bit. i have a amd phenom 9550 quad core 64 bit | 16:18 |
| holstein | thats up to you too | 16:18 |
| holstein | i have both | 16:18 |
| holstein | not really any deal breakers anyways | 16:18 |
| holstein | if you have 4+gb's of ram | 16:19 |
| holstein | you probably want the 64 | 16:19 |
| junior_ | ok let me ask this. when i run 32 bit windows the os only sees half of my ram. will 32bit ubuntu do the same? | 16:19 |
| holstein | you can use a PAE kernel | 16:19 |
| holstein | in 32bit | 16:19 |
| holstein | *assuming the motherboard supports it | 16:19 |
| holstein | and it probably does | 16:19 |
| holstein | i would just go 64 | 16:20 |
| junior_ | ok so i selected 1.01_Live_x64 from the drop down on unetbootin | 16:20 |
| holstein | ? | 16:20 |
| holstein | i wouldnt | 16:20 |
| junior_ | 10.04 | 16:20 |
| holstein | i would just go DL the image | 16:20 |
| holstein | and point unet to it | 16:20 |
| holstein | manually | 16:20 |
| junior_ | ok | 16:20 |
| holstein | but, eitherway will probably be fine* | 16:21 |
| junior_ | im d/l from ubuntu site 10.04 lts 64bit | 16:21 |
| holstein | junior_: thats what i would try next | 16:22 |
| holstein | if i were you | 16:22 |
| holstein | i think you'll have a better chance of troubleshooting that installation | 16:22 |
| junior_ | see i think i my hard drive may have a problem in the boot sector of my hard drive. i went through i little spat with a keylogger infection on my system and reformatted and reinstalled windows probably 10 in 1 weekend about 2 weeks ago. i canstantly get blue sceens when i reboot | 16:24 |
| holstein | junior_: you should test that | 16:24 |
| holstein | but, you should be able to get to a desktop | 16:24 |
| holstein | from the live CD | 16:24 |
| holstein | thats with the hard drive unplugged even* | 16:24 |
| holstein | that'll give you an idea of what all hardware is supported | 16:25 |
| holstein | so you dont get surprised after you install it | 16:25 |
| holstein | i see that all the time | 16:25 |
| holstein | ' i wiped windows and install ubuntu' | 16:25 |
| holstein | and x doesnt work | 16:25 |
| holstein | and i ask how did it run live | 16:25 |
| holstein | and i get *crikets* | 16:25 |
| holstein | its too easy not to use that as a troubleshooting step | 16:26 |
| holstein | there is a disk utility in the ubuntu menu | 16:26 |
| holstein | you can use that live* | 16:27 |
| holstein | i also use http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ | 16:27 |
| holstein | to test hard drivers | 16:27 |
| holstein | and other hardware | 16:27 |
| holstein | you'll want to sort that out before installing ubuntu i say | 16:27 |
| holstein | i mean, ubuntu is great | 16:27 |
| holstein | but its not magic | 16:27 |
| holstein | if you have a bad hard driver | 16:27 |
| holstein | if you have a bad hard drive* | 16:27 |
| holstein | you'll want to diagnose, and repair/replace | 16:27 |
| junior_ | what should i use to burn the iso to a disk? | 16:30 |
| junior_ | im on windows 7. just right click the iso and burn? | 16:31 |
| holstein | junior_: you want to copy the disc image | 16:32 |
| holstein | i dont know about win7 | 16:32 |
| holstein | but just make sure your not burning a date disc | 16:32 |
| holstein | with the image | 16:32 |
| holstein | you need to copy the disc | 16:32 |
| holstein | with the iso image as the source | 16:32 |
| holstein | junior_: unetbootin will work though | 16:32 |
| junior_ | unetbootin is only giving me usb options | 16:34 |
| holstein | right... | 16:34 |
| holstein | you can use unetbootin to make a bootable USB stick | 16:34 |
| holstein | if you dont have discs | 16:34 |
| holstein | you dont *have* to run out and buy discs | 16:34 |
| holstein | unless its just not working well | 16:35 |
| holstein | usb boo* | 16:35 |
| holstein | anyways... im running out | 16:35 |
| holstein | try #ubuntu-beginners if you need some help | 16:35 |
| holstein | and no one is around | 16:35 |
| holstein | junior_: are you near asheville? | 16:35 |
| holstein | - hit me up if you are, and cant sort out the issues... | 16:35 |
| holstein | mikeh789 "at the gmail" .com | 16:36 |
| junior_ | ok i just got an error sevnz.exe there is no dosk in the drive please insert a disk into drive \device\harddisk2\dr2 | 16:36 |
| junior_ | k nvm i selected the wrong drive label for the usb | 16:39 |
| junior_ | ok its done making the bootable usb... i reboot and hit f4 or hold shift?? | 16:45 |
| junior_ | hello | 19:13 |
| junior | im having trouble with my ubuntu install and i cant seen to find anything to help in the support pages | 22:33 |
| * _marx_ has read some scrollback | 23:04 | |
| _marx_ | wellhell display analomy in "classic" as well when using vbox; guess 2 G ram just isn't enough | 23:09 |
| holstein | _marx_: what about unity-2d ? | 23:09 |
| _marx_ | haven't tried that; i suspect low ram to video, intel on mobo video | 23:11 |
| _marx_ | or something in virtualbox | 23:11 |
| _marx_ | both are fine until i use vbox | 23:12 |
| holstein | junior: you get sorted? | 23:15 |
| junior | yes and no lol | 23:15 |
| junior | im running live right now so thats a plus | 23:15 |
| * _marx_ saw junior johnson the other day :)) | 23:16 | |
| holstein | yeah | 23:16 |
| holstein | thats a step in the right direction... need to reboot | 23:16 |
| _marx_ | i'll stick to my day job | 23:16 |
| holstein | im juggling some data today | 23:16 |
| holstein | got some new hard drives :) | 23:16 |
| holstein | BRB.. | 23:16 |
| junior | insread of trying to go through install ubuntu side by side with windows i got a spare hard drive i had laying around disconnected the one with windows on it and proceeded to install buntu 10.04 ltsbut when it trys to boot from the hard drive i get an error saying theres no bootable media what not. i will note that im running live from the usb and when i click the install ubuntu icon on desktop it recognizes an install of ubuntu | 23:20 |
| _marx_ | junior: pata or sata | 23:29 |
| junior | its an ata hard drive out of an older machie | 23:30 |
| junior | machine* | 23:30 |
| holstein | cool | 23:30 |
| holstein | now you dont have to worry about ruining data | 23:30 |
| holstein | takes a long time to format a TB drive :/ | 23:31 |
| holstein | junior: if you can, go and get the exact error | 23:38 |
| holstein | and we can look it up | 23:38 |
| junior | it doesn't give me an "error code" i go into boot menu and select the hard and it get a message saying theres nothing bootable on that disk to insert bootable media and reboot | 23:40 |
| junior | wow im trying really hard to spell correctly and i end up looking like i dont know how to speak english | 23:41 |
| holstein | junior: hehe | 23:46 |
| holstein | well, get the exact sentence | 23:46 |
| holstein | like 'no bootable media' | 23:46 |
| holstein | whatever | 23:46 |
| holstein | double check in the bios | 23:47 |
| junior | i can take a pic with my phone? | 23:47 |
| junior | lol | 23:47 |
| holstein | make sure that HD is the first boot | 23:47 |
| junior | ok will do | 23:47 |
| junior | brb | 23:47 |
| holstein | junior: whatever it takes :) | 23:47 |
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